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Tanks of the Spanish Civil War. Confrontation in numbers and colors

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The Spaniards willingly put Soviet Tanks T-26 to their museums: this is also their tanks. That is, the USSR supplied them not only to the Republicans, but also ... to the Francoists! After all, if not for the Soviet Union, they would not have seen these tanks as their ears! Tank T-26 in the artillery museum in Cartagena


I left the hut
I went to fight
To land in Grenada
Peasants give.
M. Svetlov. Grenada


Behind the pages of the civil wars. The subject of the Spanish Civil War aroused great interest among the readers of "VO", so today it will be continued.

The fact that war is disgusting in any form is an axiom that does not require proof. But the most disgusting form of war is civil war, during which the idiocy of people increases so much that a brother can raise his hand against his brother, children betray their parents, and a neighbor goes with a pitchfork to a neighbor. It was in Russia, and the consequences of this nightmare are still felt (!), And a war of similar intensity took place in 1936-1939. in Spain. Well, both countries are peasant in essence, hence the similarities. However, Soviet historians for a long time assessed it as ... "the national liberation war of the Spanish people", and this interpretation needs some explanation. It should be borne in mind that then on Spanish soil different forces and vectors of development collided simultaneously: democracy and totalitarianism, market and anti-market relations, and all this happened in a backward peasant country to the core, with a mass of feudal vestiges, with the patriarchal psychology of the masses. ... But from a political and also from a military point of view, it was a kind of prelude to World War II, let's say: its "dress rehearsal" at the European theater of operations, where military equipment and tactics of its use on the battlefield, in the air and on sea.


And here he is, but in a different coloring. Please note that the tank is a commander, that is, with a handrail antenna. But only the antenna posts are cut off from it. Museum in Valencia

But for some reason, this very aspect of the Spanish war was the worst known in our country! Although, perhaps, one could say this: it is known, but not too deeply. The Navy and the Air Force were lucky: since there is about Spain in the memoirs of Admiral Kuznetsov, and there are works of modern authors on Spanish battleships. The famous "Spanish Diary" by Mikhail Koltsov is full of detailed and emotional descriptions, but can they be trusted 100% today? There are a number of works in Spanish aviation... For example, a great deal of attention was paid to Spanish planes at one time by such a magazine as "Modelist-Constructor", but the tanks of that war were not too lucky. There was also an article about them in the journal Technics and Armaments, but that was a long time ago. A monograph was planned for the journal Technics for Youth, but never came out. The artist prepared illustrations for it, the author ordered photographs at the Imperial War Museum in London, the magazine issued an announcement, but that was the end of it. True, they managed to publish it in the St. Petersburg publishing house "Polygon" (1999). However, it was also published a long time ago, the circulation was not too large, so that today it has already become a bibliographic rarity. And besides, judging by the questions asked in the comments on "VO", it is unlikely that the topic of Spanish events will be exhausted in the foreseeable future, as, indeed, the topic of the Great Patriotic War, on which many archival materials are still closed, and open on it "everything" is planned only ... in 2045!

Tanks of the Spanish Civil War. Confrontation in numbers and colors

T-26 stationed in Salamanca

So learning more about the tanks of the Spanish war will hopefully be not only interesting, but also instructive. Indeed, this material, like the books of the Polygon publishing house, is based on research by Spanish and English authors. In particular, the work of Hugh Thomas, which was not yet translated into Russian at that time. Well, the reason why little has been written about her in the past is quite understandable. We lost the "war" there, and our historians in Soviet times simply could not use Western sources! Well, who would have dared to write to the Spanish Ministry of Defense before 1975 and ask for photos and information on this topic? And then ... too. Well, our former Spanish military advisers, who later became our "prominent military leaders", clearly did not try to tell about their own mistakes, even if they were made to please the almighty leader. After all, and so it was obvious who was better able to use the experience of Spain. However, even today, this experience, in addition to purely academic interest, also has practical value: civil wars and local military conflicts on the planet continue as before. This is, firstly. Secondly, conclusions are drawn from them, and very often the same erroneous ones. Thirdly, the availability of a variety of information teaches people to think, and this is useful in any system, any ruler and in any macro- and microeconomic situation!

Figures and facts of war


Let's start with the funniest fact, which clearly shows how we are doing with historical information, namely that the exact number of Soviet T-26 and BT-5 tanks, sent to Republican Spain, is still unknown. At the same time, Western historians usually exaggerate the amount of equipment supplied, but ours, on the contrary, try to underestimate. Well, we will begin to get acquainted with these figures from Wikipedia, which knows everything: “... in total, during the years of the civil war, the USSR supplied republican Spain with 297 T-26 tanks, 50 BT-5 tanks and 120 armored vehicles (80 BA-6, 33 FAI and seven BA-I), and also sent 351 specialist tankers, and the same figures are given by the historian A. Rozin (“Supply of the Spanish Republic weapons... 1936-1939 ")


Model T-26 in scale 1:35, and it is the Spanish version, today many model firms are producing ...

I. P. Shmelev, a recognized authority on the history of BTT in our country, wrote in his monograph "T-34" that 362 tanks were sent to Spain, but there are other data - 347. But the figures of the Spanish historian Rafael Trevino Martinez absolutely others: about 500 T-26 and 100 BT-5 tanks, and that's not counting the many armored vehicles.


And you can assemble such a beautiful model!

The number of 362 tanks is also found in the French historian BTT Raymond Surlemont. He cited such data in the magazine "Armoredkar", but added that the USSR in Spain, in addition to tanks, supplied another 120 FAI armored vehicles and more cannon BA-3 / BA-6.

But the English historian Hugh Thomas, whose monograph on the history of the Spanish Civil War in the West has already gone through several editions and is recognized in English-speaking countries as perhaps the most solid research on this topic, reports that there were about 900 tanks in Spain sent from Russia , and even adds 300 BA to them. Our modern historians A. Isaev, V. Goncharov, E. Drig, I. Koshkin, A. Masterkov and M. Svirin in the book “Tank Breakthrough. Soviet tanks in the battles of 1937-1942. " claim that this data is also inaccurate and should not be trusted.

It turns out that only our Defense Ministry can shed light on the history of deliveries to Spain, but it is silent, like a partisan before the Gestapo. Therefore, the only thing that can be talked about with absolute certainty and proof is not about the quantity, but about the quality of the military equipment supplied to the Spaniards. Undoubtedly, the tanks delivered to the republicans from the USSR in all their combat characteristics were superior to the vehicles sent to the Francoists from Germany and Italy! So, the Italians supplied Franco with 149 of their "light tanks" (in our opinion, tankettes) CV 3/35 Fiat-Ansaldo and another 16 armored cars "Lancia-Ansaldo" EM model as early as 1917. The first five tankettes entered the country on August 16, 1936, and armored cars on December 22, but were used only for training. On September 29, 10 more tankettes arrived, three with flamethrowers, and so on, throughout the war. They created a company with mixed crews and showed it to General Franco on October 17, 1936 at a military parade. They went into battle on October 21 on the road leading to Madrid, near the village of Navalkarnero. And although they knocked the Republicans out of him, one tankette was lost. However, the fact of victory was obvious, so the nationalists immediately named their "tank unit" "Navalkarnero"! Then, on October 29, these same tankettes met for the first time with T-26 tanks. And the meeting ended with the fact that our tank knocked out officer P. Berezi's tankette with a direct hit, and her entire crew was killed. And the second tankette was also damaged, although our tank received serious damage, but only ... from nationalist artillery fire. And in the fall of 1936, in the battles for Madrid, the Italian tank company lost four vehicles, three tankers were killed, seventeen were wounded and one was reported missing. On December 8, 1936, another 20 tankettes were sent from Italy.


T-26 "radio", that is, with a walkie-talkie, but for some reason a sawn-off hand-held antenna, and, therefore, without a walkie-talkie. But with a "Voroshilov machine gun" and an anti-aircraft machine gun mount. Army of the Republic

These battles showed the Italians the complete unsuitability of their vehicles in the fight against tanks from the USSR. For example, near Guadalajara, the Italians lost 45 tankettes (and about ten CV3s were captured by the Republicans in good condition). While the Republicans themselves lost seven tanks and five guns. And what? They immediately sat down, thought, and ... began to use their tankettes as part of mixed units, along with armored vehicles, motorcycles with machine guns, cavalry and motorized infantry of nationalists. They were called "fast units" (just like our "rapid response" units!), And it turned out that in this capacity they are much better! Attacking where the Republicans had no tanks, they occupied Santader, and already in March-April 1938 they carried out a successful offensive in the mountainous region of Montenegro. In July 1938, they were reinforced with the German 37-mm RAK-36 guns, after which they were able to break through the Republican front at Teruel and advance over a distance of more than 100 kilometers!


Italian "tanks" in the battles of Guadalajara. Bundesarchiv, Germany

However, it was only in December 1938 that the last 32 Italian tankettes arrived in Spain. Now this part of the expeditionary corps received the name of the regiment and already consisted of a headquarters, two battalions of tankettes with Italian crews (two companies in each), a battalion of tankettes with Spanish crews, a motorized battalion, one company of armored vehicles, another company of motorcyclists and an infantry company of the Bersagliers. This also included the Orditi battalion, as well as an artillery battalion from a battery of 65-mm Italian mountain guns, a battery of 37-mm German RAC-36 and a fairly large number of 47-mm and 45-mm trophy guns.


T-26 "radio", republican, in camouflage

In December 1938, this unit advanced in Catalonia and once again managed to break through the Republican front. However, all these defeats were very carefully compensated by the efforts of the republican press. So, on January 17, 1939, when the republican troops were retreating along the entire front, the newspapers published a message about the feat of a corporal named Celestino Garcia Moreno, who in the Coloma de Queralt area met face to face with 13 Italian tankettes and ... with the help of hand grenades successively blew three of them. Then he opened the hatches on them with a pickaxe and took five tankers prisoner, after which 10 surviving tankettes turned into a shameful flight! But no matter what heroic deeds the Spanish Republican soldiers performed, on January 26, nationalist tanks still entered Barcelona, ​​and on February 3, 1939, the Italians lost their last tankette during the assault on the city of Girona, quite close to the border with France. On February 10, they already reached the border, capturing 22 republican tanks, 50 guns and about 1000 machine guns during the offensive! On February 28, 1939, the armored units of the Italians entered Alicante, after which they participated only in parades: on May 3 at the parade in Valencia and on May 19 during the parade on the occasion of the victory in Madrid. In total, the Italians lost 56 tankettes, but they fully justified their motto "Quickly to victory"!


T-26 in the livery of nationalists

PS The administration of the site and the author are grateful to A. Sheps for the high quality drawings of tanks provided for the design of the cycle.

To be continued ...
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  1. svp67
    svp67 22 August 2020 05: 36 New
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    The topic is interesting. Thanks for the lighting. hi
    That is, the USSR supplied them not only to the Republicans, but also ... to the Francoists!
    Here I disagree. The USSR did not supply the Francoists with them, the Francoists procured them in battle, paying not in gold, but in blood ...
    And here he is, but in a different coloring. Please note that the tank is a commander, that is, with a handrail antenna. But only the antenna racks are cut off from it.
    No, it seems to me that the author is wrong here, the tank is not a commander's. The patches were placed on the holes, and not on the antenna cuts.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 August 2020 06: 18 New
      12
      I join! The theme and the truth is glorious. Having only illuminated the path of the Italians and our domestic tanks, I did not see a single line about the German Pz-l.
      1. kalibr
        22 August 2020 07: 30 New
        +6
        Vladislav! Why are you in such a hurry? Where? The following material will be about the tanks of the Condor legion and the Dron group.
        1. Pavel57
          Pavel57 23 August 2020 21: 33 New
          +1
          We are waiting for the next material.
          1. kalibr
            24 August 2020 07: 50 New
            0
            He is ready to appear soon. Then another ...
    2. kalibr
      22 August 2020 07: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      Here I disagree. The USSR did not supply the Francoists with them, the Francoists procured them in battle, paying not in gold, but in blood ...

      Well, this is "figuratively speaking". It is clear that not directly ...
    3. kalibr
      22 August 2020 07: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Patches delivered at the holes

      And you take a closer look ... Patching us with a viewing gap - yes, most likely a hole. But there are also the remains of the handrail fastening visible.
      1. svp67
        svp67 22 August 2020 08: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: kalibr
        And you take a closer look ... Patching us with a viewing gap - yes, most likely a hole. But there are also the remains of the handrail fastening visible.

        Yes, there is such a thing, then it is generally strange. All the rest were removed without a trace, but this was left ... Maybe after the restoration? Collected from two padded ones. The niche of the tower has no traces of fixing the handrail antenna
        1. kalibr
          22 August 2020 18: 48 New
          +1
          About tanks with cut antennas.
          There was a series of articles in T&V (Equipment and Weapons). The commander's T-26s were carried out better, so they were sent to Spain, but they did not install the radio, and the antenna was cut off. Welded brackets remained
          1. svp67
            svp67 22 August 2020 18: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: kalibr
            Welded brackets remained

            But here then they are not enough and it is not visible where they were
            1. kalibr
              22 August 2020 19: 08 New
              +1
              I can't add anything else
              1. svp67
                svp67 22 August 2020 19: 47 New
                +4
                Quote: kalibr
                I can't add anything else

                As long ago as at school, while preparing one of the essays on the analysis of the actions of tanks in the pre-war period, I read Pavlov's report on his activities in Spain. Honestly, at that moment I liked Pavlov, clarity of thought, correct conclusions, but apparently this was his ceiling ... he turned out to be weak for the ComFront.
                Such a moment, as he described the medical support of his combined tank brigade, the organization of the evacuation of wounded tankers, treatment, everything is really reasonable there, how many lives and health were saved, but why, when he became the head of the GABTU, he did not organize the same in our tank forces?
                1. kalibr
                  22 August 2020 19: 49 New
                  -1
                  Quote: svp67
                  why when he became the head of the GABTU, he did not organize the same in our tank forces?

                  I didn't want to repeat the fate of another "Spaniard" pilot who told Stalin: "You make us fly on coffins!" And he finished very badly!
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 22 August 2020 19: 53 New
                    +3
                    Quote: kalibr
                    I didn't want to repeat the fate of another "Spaniard" pilot who told Stalin: "You make us fly on coffins!" And he finished very badly!

                    Honestly, I don't understand this story with Rychagov and dozens of other leaders of our Air Force at all. It seems that it was a well-conducted operation to introduce chaos into the leadership system of the Red Army Air Force.
                    Why don't they open archives? What is there that we still need to keep silent about in relation to this case?
                    1. kalibr
                      22 August 2020 20: 20 New
                      +5
                      Quote: svp67
                      Why don't they open archives? What is there that we still need to keep silent about in relation to this case?

                      Poincaré dies ... They ask him why you didn’t write your memoirs? After all, you were at the helm at such a time ... He replies: If I wrote everything I know, not a single person would risk dying for their homeland. They ask him: For France, you wanted to say. He: No, for the homeland!
                      That is why they do not open it, because there is such that ... it is better not to.
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 22 August 2020 20: 31 New
                      +5
                      Why don't they open archives?
                      You see, comrade, we have a civil war, not a fig is over. It has been going on for a hundred years.
              2. cost
                cost 22 August 2020 23: 17 New
                +4
                all in all, during the years of the civil war, the USSR delivered 297 T-26 tanks, 50 BT-5 tanks and 120 armored vehicles (80 BA-6, 33 FAI and seven BA-I

                Vyacheslav Olegovich hi
                But about armored cars would have written in more detail. The topic is interesting.
                a photo BA-6 Republicans

                a photo BA-6 nationalists

                a photo BA-3. External difference from BA-6 - rear door on the right

                BA-6 was created on the basis of BA-3. In terms of hull, turret, armament, placement of ammunition, components and assemblies, the BA-6 did not differ from the BA-3. Externally, it could be distinguished by the absence of a tailgate, rear inspection hatches and a step in the stern. In addition, the base between the front axle and the center of the rear bogie suspension was reduced to 3200 mm (3412 mm for BA-3); the distance between the rear axles was reduced from 1016 mm (for BA-3) to 940 mm. The BA-6 also has bullet-resistant GK tires filled with sponge rubber. Thanks to stricter weight discipline, the weight of the BA-6 was reduced to 5,12 tons while maintaining almost all the tactical and technical characteristics, as in the BA-3
                TTX BA-6 and BA-3
                body length, mm 4625 (4825 BA-3)
                Width, mm 1963
                Height, mm 2494
                Base, mm 254
                Clearance, mm 250
                Reservation
                Forehead, mm / city. Xnumx
                Board of the case, mm / city. Xnumx
                Housing feed (top), mm / city. 8
                Feed housing (bottom), mm / city. 6
                Bottom, mm 5
                Roof, mm 4
                Front of the tower, mm / deg. Xnumx
                Board towers, mm / city. Xnumx
                The feed of the tower, mm / city. Xnumx
                weaponry
                Caliber and brand of gun 45-mm arr. 1932 g. (20K)
                60 gun ammunition
                Sights TOP, PT-1
                Machine guns 2 × 7,62-mm DT-29
                Mobility
                Engine type inline 4-cylinder liquid-cooled carburetor
                Engine power, l with. Xnumx
                Highway speed, km / h 57
                Cruising on highway, km 248
                Cruising in store over rough terrain, km 143 (on a dirt road)
                Wheel formula 6 × 4
                Gradeability, hail. thirty
                The overcome wall, m 0,3
                The overcome ditch, m 0,8
                Overcoming ford, m 0,60
                Thanks to the powerful 45-mm cannon BA-6 and BA-3, they controlled tanks and tankettes of the Frankists without any problems - both with German light Pz.I and with Italian CV3 tankettes. For example, from Pavlov's report: - "when the enemy infantry with the support of CV3, advancing from Valdemoro to Simpassuelo, broke through the front of the 18th Republican brigade, 6 BA-6s were brought into battle from the reserve, which, having passed 16 km, from the march crashed into the advancing tankettes, 16 were smashed, and the rest were forced to retreat. The offensive of the rebels in this sector was temporarily delayed. For the next few days, it was enough to appear to cannon armored cars here, as the enemy immediately abandoned the offensive in this direction. "
                1. cost
                  cost 22 August 2020 23: 25 New
                  +3
                  armored car FAI

                  TTH:
                  (indicators for FAI-M are given in brackets)
                  Classification Light armored car
                  Combat weight, t 1,75 (2,28)
                  Crew, people 2-3
                  body length, mm 3 690 (4 325)
                  Width, mm 1 (730)
                  Height, mm 2 070 (2 140)
                  Clearance, mm 190 (185)
                  Reservation
                  Armor type rolled steel
                  Forehead of the body (top), mm / city. fifty
                  The forehead of the body (bottom), mm / city. twenty
                  Board of the case, mm / city. Xnumx
                  Feed housing, mm / city. fifteen
                  Bottom, mm 3
                  Roof, mm 4
                  Front of the tower, mm / deg. Xnumx
                  Board towers, mm / city. Xnumx
                  The feed of the tower, mm / city. Xnumx
                  The roof of the tower, mm 4
                  weaponry
                  Scopes Diopter
                  Machine guns 1 × 7,62 mm DT machine gun,
                  1512 (1512) rounds
                  Mobility
                  Engine type Carbureted inline four-cylinder
                  GAZ-A (GAZ-M1)
                  Engine power, hp from. 40 (50)
                  Road speed, km / h 80 (83,1)
                  Cruising on the highway, km 225 (315)
                  Gradeability, hail. thirty
                  1. cost
                    cost 22 August 2020 23: 34 New
                    +3
                    In addition, the Republicans had their own good ones - UNL-35
                    a photo Replica UNL-35 front-right. 2013

                    In November 1936, the commission on armored armament of the Spanish Republic instructed the Soviet military adviser N.N. Alymov to design an armored car based on the FAI and BA-6. We developed design documentation at the plant No. 22 "Union naval de Levante" in Valencia.
                    According to the first letters of the name of the plant, the armored car is officially named UNL-35
                    The production of armor for armored cars was established at a plant in the city of Sagunto under the leadership of the Soviet engineer A. Vorobyov. From the report of N. Alymov, sent to Moscow in June 1937, it follows that he was sent to the Navalis plant for the production of armored vehicles on the ZIS-5 chassis. The frame was shortened by 140 cm, since the chassis was long, the propeller shaft was cut off and the rear springs moved. The armored hull is welded and riveted on squares. Armored bottom, armament - 2 machine guns.
                    The production of the armor plate was established at the Sagunto plant in the province of Valencia. A chemical analysis of Soviet and German armor was taken, and on the basis of this, experiments were carried out on the manufacture of armor with a high content of chromium and nickel. The result is good solid armor, which, with a thickness of 10 mm, cannot be penetrated by an armor-piercing bullet from 25 m. In addition, shielded (two-layer) armor was made with a 7-mm armor plate riveted with a 3-mm boiler iron. When firing with an armor-piercing bullet from 25 meters, the armor broke through, and a bulge was obtained in the place of the iron. All armored cars built were covered with shielded armor.
                    By June, 26 BAs had been handed over, 10 of them with Maxim machine guns and 16 with DT machine guns. In production 200 at the factories "Navalis", "Sagundo", "Torres", "Davis". The Francoists knew about the construction of the BA, after the release of 10 BA they bombed the Navalis and Sagundo factories. There were two main variants of the UNL-35 on the ZIS-5 chassis - they differed in engine armor and a number of other small parts.
                    From the summer of 1937 to the spring of 1938, up to five or six UNL-35s were produced per month. Since the spring of 1938, due to heavy bombing by Franco aviation, the production of armored vehicles was moved to the Amat plant in the city of Elda, province of Alicante. But by that time, the supply of the ZIS-5 from the USSR had stopped, so other chassis were adapted for the production of the UNL-35, mainly Ford V8 and Chevrolet (several chassis with the right rudder were used for booking). This, as well as the interruptions in the supply of armor plates, significantly reduced the rate of production of armored vehicles, and only from September 1938, the production of armored vehicles began to grow and ceased in March 1939 after the fall of the republic. Over 2 years built more than 120 UNL-35 (more than half based on ZIS-5)
                    1. kalibr
                      24 August 2020 07: 52 New
                      0
                      All this is, drawings in color and description. But can it ALL be inserted into one article? You count your number of characters in the commentary on UNL-35 ... Wait. Moscow, too, was not built immediately.
          2. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 13: 29 New
            0
            ... T-26 commanders performed better, so they were sent to Spain,

            Well, this is nothing more than Morozov's assumption. It is doubtful that the quality of the radio machines was so different from the linear ones, and plant 174 had a special choice of what to supply to Spain.
            1. kalibr
              24 August 2020 07: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
              Well, this is nothing more than Morozov's assumption. It is doubtful that the quality of the radio machines was so different from the linear ones, and plant 174 had a special choice of what to supply to Spain.

              Where did Morozov get it? Here you have to read TV. In this magazine, the trend is the publication of documentary materials and memoirs of participants ... This is taken from there.
              1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 08: 03 New
                0
                Quote: kalibr
                Here you have to read TV.

                and I'm talking about Morozov's article in TV. By the way, although the author cites "the participants' recollections" there, he reasonably notes that they are not credible.
        2. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 14: 32 New
          0
          Fair enough - there is not even a trace of the bracket on the aft niche.
  2. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 22 August 2020 06: 29 New
    13
    in the newspapers there was a report about the feat of a corporal named Celestino Garcia Moreno, who in the Coloma de Queralt area met face to face with 13 Italian tankettes and ... with the help of hand grenades, successively blew up three of them. Then he opened the hatches on them with a pickaxe and took five tankers prisoner, after which 10 surviving tankettes turned into a shameful flight!

    If this is true, then I simply have no words! With grenades and a hoe, 13 (thirteen !!!) wedges won! Krasava !!!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 August 2020 06: 31 New
      +7
      This is after the flight to the moon on the core
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 22 August 2020 08: 36 New
        +1
        And since then the Moon has become Nuclear. laughing
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 August 2020 08: 40 New
          +2
          Greetings, Constantine! hi
          Yes, and mutant deer appeared there. With a cherry tree on his head)).
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 22 August 2020 08: 49 New
            +1
            Deer not only got divorced there, our Seryoga-Fil hates one Moscow "deer" to the core. True, the "deer" is not entirely Moscow, but rather St. Petersburg, but the borders are glued in Moscow. And the cherry pits can't handle him.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 22 August 2020 09: 02 New
              0
              rather St. Petersburg,
              Of course, from the Ryazan hinterland, I understand that Peter, that the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, are all the same - "SeverA", but there is a nuance! laughing
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 22 August 2020 09: 25 New
                0
                Something from Khanty-Manta to the capital nobody rushes, but your "nuances" have come in large numbers - there is nowhere to spit, and the Kremlin in general has turned into Petropavlovka. bully
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 22 August 2020 12: 16 New
                  +2
                  How not rushing ??? And Sobyanin?
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 22 August 2020 13: 16 New
                    0
                    In a few years, the Central Ring Road will be completed, and there will be a place for everyone in the resulting human race.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 22 August 2020 14: 04 New
                      +2
                      The Central Ring Road - what's this? I'm a little sour here in the "second capital" ...
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 August 2020 15: 20 New
                        0
                        This is another "ring" on the territory of the Moscow region. It is accompanied by further fragmentation of landscapes.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 20: 13 New
                        0
                        Evono how! Northern Sea Route added? Well, as a bypass?
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 August 2020 21: 51 New
                        0
                        Not too early. Belkomur is somehow in no hurry to build.
                      4. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 22: 58 New
                        +1
                        "I love our plans a huge!" (FROM)crying
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 August 2020 23: 12 New
                        0
                        “But we make rockets,
                        We overlap the Yenisei "(c).
                      6. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 23: 20 New
                        +4
                        "Wide native Brazil,
                        Every inhabitant in it, and is fed and drunk,
                        I do not know another such country,
                        Where there are so many wild monkeys! "(C)
                      7. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 August 2020 23: 47 New
                        +1
                        "The screams of parrots are heard
                        And voice monkeys "(c).
                      8. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 23: 57 New
                        +3
                        "The parrot threatened us mysteriously,
                        Palm twig "(C)
                      9. bubalik
                        bubalik 23 August 2020 00: 00 New
                        +3
                        In banana and moonlight Singapore, in a storm
                        When a banana breaks in the wind
                        You dream all night on a yellow hide
                        To the screams of the monkeys (from)
                      10. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 00: 19 New
                        +3
                        "And I still have Cuban sand in my shoes,
                        They don't know how sweet snow can be "(C)
                      11. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 23 August 2020 00: 22 New
                        +2
                        “You, it seems, later loved the Portuguese” (c).
                      12. aakvit
                        aakvit 26 August 2020 15: 00 New
                        +1
                        In broke through you, lads! It's nice to read! laughing hi drinks
  • Phil77
    Phil77 22 August 2020 09: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Deer not only got divorced there, our Seryoga-Fil hates one Moscow "deer" to the core. True, the "deer" is not entirely Moscow,

    Hello friends! This is the ENEMY! This is the occupier! The capital was given to him * feeding *.
    * Bordehrenfuehrer *, so that he ... was good! am
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 22 August 2020 09: 50 New
      0
      Hello Seryoga! hi
      An unfortunate comparison, "Brigadeführer" robbed ALIEN countries, and this one was of a local spill, it was grown and nurtured here, like all the rest of the Caudlo. So they are trying ... for the good.
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 22 August 2020 10: 02 New
        0
        Let's call him the Gauleiter!
        * Candidate Sobyanin won the election for 24 years *. In a week, a decree!
        * The state border of the Russian Federation should be laid out with a curbstone, and the control strip - with paving slabs. * wink
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 22 August 2020 10: 16 New
          +2
          You are more careful there, in the Mother See, adversary, he does not sleep. angry
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 22 August 2020 12: 32 New
            +3
            And his fans! Judging by the * minuses * given to us! laughing
          2. Korsar4
            Korsar4 22 August 2020 12: 49 New
            +3
            “And she will put tolu under the corset.
            You check what gender your neighbor is ”(c).
          3. Phil77
            Phil77 22 August 2020 17: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Sea Cat
            You are more careful there, in the Mother See

            Yes, and to hell with him! * This * fear-not live in Moscow! stop
        2. Pavel57
          Pavel57 24 August 2020 09: 45 New
          0
          There is a candidate for Sobyanin's successor - Rakov, Anastasia Vladimirovna.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 22 August 2020 09: 04 New
    +3
    Gorky Automobile Plant?
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 22 August 2020 10: 31 New
      +2
      Some kind of chmr climbed onto a branch and stuck everyone on the minus, obviously from hopeless envy and exacerbation of stomach ulcers. "Here are u r o d s ..." (c). laughing
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 13: 59 New
        +3
        My diagnosis is diarrhea. Colleague, can a patient have a rectal tonsillectomy?
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 22 August 2020 14: 02 New
          +1
          About dr and with a - I agree, but why do you write such complicated words, he won't understand a damn thing.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 22 August 2020 14: 09 New
            +3
            Well, you understand. Do not consider opponents less erudite.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 22 August 2020 15: 11 New
              +3
              So after all, this type and an opponent at all, and so, some kind of "quiet", crawls around the site like a rat in the cellar, and is afraid to stick his face out. Here even the notorious Golovan of ours inevitably begins to respect.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 August 2020 07: 40 New
    10
    Good morning friends! smile
    Thank you Vyacheslav for continuing the series. Everything is very, very interesting. good
    The third photo below shows the Italian Carro CV-3/33 LF flamethrower tankette (Lancia Fiamme).

    I do not know how she showed herself in Spain, and during the Second World War in general, if anyone has information - share it with the people.
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 07: 53 New
      +6
      Dear Konstantin! There is very little information. Everything I dug up is here. But ... on author. ru the second part of the novel "Three from Ensk" was published. Where the heroes are in Spain. And there are many interesting things in general. Much was written simply from documents and reports ... Take an interest!
      1. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 22 August 2020 12: 18 New
        +2
        There is very little information.

        Moreover, it is contradictory. According to some sources, Armand was set on fire from a lianchi fyamme, according to another - with a bottle.
        I mean the October battle at Sesenya.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 22 August 2020 19: 12 New
          +3
          Hello, Doctor! I would like to know if you have a personal dislike for Shpakovsky, a general dislike for the authors of the resource writing on historical topics, or a global dislike for TI?
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 01: 22 New
            0
            Will you be from Shpakovsky's dancer?
            Or a 'man with flowers' from the parterre? Shpakovsky is an advanced enough vermis litterarius to do without your legal profession, my dear. laughing
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 22 August 2020 09: 56 New
    +4
    "National liberation war of the Spanish people"

    I, of course, understand the emotional state of the author, but I would like a scan of the document to confirm this stupidity - so to call the civil war. Otherwise, the authorship of this statement will pass to him.
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 17: 49 New
      0
      Sergei, precisely because at one time it was the official name of this war, I will not present any scans to you now. And it so happened that in 1998 my daughter graduated from the institute and wrote a diploma from Professor Farbman. He was very clever, but he specialized in Western European historiography of German fascism. Can you imagine the narrowness of the topic? And the diploma should be written in such a way that everyone understands it as little as possible, isn't it? So we chose the topic: "The English-language historiography of the Spanish Civil War." Since fascism was present in the topic, moreover, then the Francoists were also called fascists, and besides Farbman himself, no one in the subject of the teachers peddled. I requested materials from Spain, from England - the Union of Veterans of Participants ... and also a book by Hugh Thomas, which had not yet been translated and published in the Russian Federation. Based on all this, this work was done. Then tanks were added to it and so a book was published, our common, in the POLIGON publishing house: "Armored vehicles ...". This series of articles - processing with a level of novelty 90% of the materials from there. But it is clear that the content has not changed. The form of presentation changed. So if there was such a thing, then it was the place to be. As for the references, they are all in the book, and to the work of Hugh Thomas, and to the works of our historians, and Spanish books and archives. Everything is there! And it is clear that after the book came out, I threw away all the drafts. Why clutter up an apartment ...
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 22 August 2020 18: 10 New
        +5
        this was the official name of this war,

        Any historian, even ours, even theirs, can not give such a name to the civil war. Official means it was given in an official document. I can understand the propaganda label, but this does not even attract propaganda. I understand that there will be no scan.
        1. kalibr
          22 August 2020 18: 19 New
          +4
          I believe that I have written you everything in an exhaustive manner. There is nothing to do a scan with. It's easier for you to download the book and look there, if you're interested. But ... when our archive begins to work, I will certainly look there and see what our Soviet newspapers wrote about this war. I can guarantee this.
        2. kalibr
          22 August 2020 18: 21 New
          -2
          Quote: Aviator_
          I can understand the propaganda label, but this does not even attract propaganda.

          Pulls, still pulls. Soviet. There was an article about the assassination of Trotsky. It contains the words of Stalin. There is not a word of truth in them, but as a propaganda cliché they exist. So we CAN EVERYTHING.
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 19: 19 New
            -1
            ... There was an article about the assassination of Trotsky

            Ah, yes, a noble Samson's slag ..) The many times gnawed bone was once again licked by the Voshny Stalinophrenics. laughing
      2. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 11: 54 New
        0
        ... historiography of German fascism. Can you imagine the narrowness of the topic?

        Yeah. It will be narrower than the 'historiography of Italian National Socialism'
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 22 August 2020 11: 18 New
    +3
    ... a lot of attention was paid to the planes of Spain by such a magazine as "Modelist-Constructor", but the tanks of that war were not too lucky.

    Well, I personally don't see anything strange in this. The types and models of tanks participating in the GVI can be counted on the fingers of one hand, but the picture with aviation is completely different. Only Condor used a dozen different types.
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 19: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
      a dozen

      And let's start: 1
      2
      3
      4
      5
      It will be very interesting to know all their types. I'm not an aviation expert, but it's interesting.
      1. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 02: 13 New
        0
        ... And let's start: 1


        Heinkeli:
        51, 112, 111,59, 60, 46, 70,
        Junkers:
        Stuck, aunt Yu
        Dornier U-17
        Arado
        Bf-109
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 22 August 2020 11: 28 New
    +4
    Shpakovsky, everything would be fine, even your presentation style, which is apparently oriented towards a puberty audience, is already boring, but the first chapter of your narration is clearly superfluous. You should have either a cross or cowards - you obviously failed to talk about the nature and cause of GW.
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 18: 22 New
      -2
      Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
      You clearly failed to talk about the nature and cause of GW.

      This is your personal opinion.
      1. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 01: 33 New
        0
        Of course. Do you express the opinion of a group of comrades?
        Oh yes, coauthors ...
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 22 August 2020 20: 23 New
      +4
      style of presentation, apparently focused on a pubertal audience,

      What is true is true
      1. kalibr
        23 August 2020 07: 51 New
        0
        Sergey, I just write, and then, a lot of people read everything in my materials, except what is written. And the content does not reach everyone. And what will happen if I write "difficult" with references to the names of different people who do not say anything to the reader, with footnotes in brackets, with cross-references, references to historiography ... What will happen then? I am sure 2% will master, and the rest will spit. And the level of real VO readers is very low. Here's an example for you, recently one reader demanded from me references to the number of French guns. Although I gave the source in the article. He give me a scan. I indicated the page. You open the Network, you type ... "read otnain", page and ... But no! Scan! Then, all the same, he read and wrote to me - this book is a "popular essay". So I have an article "popular essay". Like this!
  • deddem
    deddem 22 August 2020 11: 34 New
    +2
    By the way, according to the numbers of armored cars, I read from the French that BA-6 is very often confused with Chevrolet, of which there were also many, but outwardly they are very similar and armed, by the will of the Republicans, in the same way.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 21: 38 New
      0
      ... and armed, by the will of the Republicans, equally.

      It seems that the "will of the republicans" AAS armed with 37mm. The BA-6 has a 45mm version and was installed on the Chevrolet by the Francoists after the war.
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 22 August 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    ... It turns out that only our Defense Ministry can shed light on the history of deliveries to Spain, but it is silent, like a partisan in front of the Gestapo

    It is more appropriate to ask the Ministry of Finance how much and for how much armored vehicles were sold. What does MO have to do with it?
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 19: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
      It is more appropriate to ask the Ministry of Finance how much and for how much armored vehicles were sold. What does MO have to do with it?

      You see, you can somehow get into the MO archive. But I have never heard that someone worked in the archives of the Ministry of Finance. Is that what you take, since you give such advice?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 19: 33 New
        +4
        Bravo! A worthy answer!
      2. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 23 August 2020 01: 45 New
        0
        ... You see, you can somehow get into the MO archive.

        I sincerely wish you good luck in your daring enters the archive. It's time, it's time to put Mr. Thomas to shame with his thousand tanks sold to the Spaniards. He's lying, you scoundrel. bully
        1. kalibr
          23 August 2020 07: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
          I sincerely wish you good luck in your daring enters the archive.

          Thank you, Alexander, for the planes and for your wishes. I worked in the MO archive, but today my limit is 2 Penza archives where I can be live. You and me can work with the rest, but remotely, and this is difficult. And it's not profitable for me to ride on them. Economically.
  • apro
    apro 22 August 2020 14: 57 New
    +4
    As usual, the author has ambiguous ... double standards and for all good versus all bad. In his opinion.
    1. kalibr
      22 August 2020 17: 53 New
      +1
      And life, Oleg, is generally an ambiguous thing. What can be good for you, bad for me and vice versa. And double standards are also the norm for centuries: "they" have spies, we have scouts. Does this surprise you?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 22 August 2020 19: 22 New
        +4
        I would say that double standards are generally a sign of reason.
      2. apro
        apro 23 August 2020 01: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        And double standards are also the norm for centuries

        Is this military propaganda? For enemies?
        1. kalibr
          24 August 2020 16: 02 New
          0
          Quote: apro
          Is this military propaganda? For enemies?

          And for ... (a word forbidden in VO, but in everyday life is known to everyone in Russia. Denotes a stupid person)
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 22 August 2020 19: 46 New
    +2
    the nationalists immediately named "Navalkarnero"!

    What does "rabano picanto" mean in Spanish, I know, but "navalcarnero" is not clear.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 22 August 2020 20: 01 New
      +3
      A local football club.
  • bubalik
    bubalik 22 August 2020 20: 34 New
    +2
    ,,, an episode from the film was recalled.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 22 August 2020 20: 51 New
      +2
      My respect, Sergei! What movie?
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 22 August 2020 21: 00 New
        +5
        Hello Anton hi How do you not remember sad? "Officers", Trofimov in Spain.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 22 August 2020 21: 09 New
          +3
          Pancake! Well, I didn't remember! I watched for a long time, about 30 years ago ...
          Well, I didn't remember ... Even a jester has the right to little human weaknesses ...
        2. kalibr
          24 August 2020 16: 01 New
          +1
          But it can be confused with the movie "The guy from our city".
  • bubalik
    bubalik 22 August 2020 21: 39 New
    +1
    It turns out that only our Defense Ministry can shed light on the history of deliveries to Spain, but it is silent, like a partisan before the Gestapo.
    ,,, some questions will cause others. The USSR did not help free of charge. repeat

    By 1936. Spain's gold reserves exceeded 600 tons. October 15, 1936 Largo Caballero and Juan Negrin officially approached the Soviet government with a proposal to store 500 tons of gold. The Soviet leadership quickly decided to export the gold.
    Minutes No. 44 of the meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) dated 17.10.36.
    To instruct Comrade Rosenberg to reply to the Spanish government that we are ready to accept the gold reserve for safekeeping and that we agree to send this gold on our ships returning from ports.

    A little more than 510 tons were transported in total. gold packed in 7800 boxes.

    In short, there was still information on the whole article and there were loans.
    1. kalibr
      23 August 2020 07: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: bubalik
      information for the whole article

      I will write. There are funny moments and very much!
      1. Fat
        Fat 23 August 2020 09: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: bubalik
        information for the whole article

        I will write. There are funny moments and very much!

        Come on! Vyacheslav Olegovich ...
      2. bubalik
        bubalik 23 August 2020 13: 04 New
        +2
        I look forward to good
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 23 August 2020 18: 48 New
    +1
    The author wrote "That is, the USSR supplied them (with T-26 tanks) not only to the Republicans, but also ... to the Francoists! After all, if it were not for the Soviet Union, they would not have seen these tanks as their ears!"

    Where did the author get such an interspection that the USSR supplied the Francoists with their tanks?
    And by the epigraph. The quatrain from Svetlovskaya "Grenada" seems to be in the subject, but it has nothing to do with the period of the civil war in Spain. The poem was written in 1926.
    1. kalibr
      24 August 2020 08: 01 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Green
      Where did the author get such an interspection that the USSR supplied the Francoists with their tanks?

      Oh, I thought I understood. The tank was hit without much damage and was thrown. Fuel consumes - thrown, thrown off the caterpillar and thrown. And the Francoists picked it up, and the Germans put it into operation. That's all...
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 24 August 2020 14: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        The tank was hit without much damage and was thrown.

        So they would write, otherwise: "The USSR supplied the Francoists with tanks" - this is a deliberately spread lie, which then the same libelists like you will replicate it.
    2. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 08: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Green
      Where did the author get such an interspection that the USSR supplied the Francoists with their tanks?

      It's just a figure of speech, isn't it clear?
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 24 August 2020 14: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
        It's just a figure of speech, isn't it clear?

        No, this is not a figure of speech - but an elementary dirty slander.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 14: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Green
          No, this is not a figure of speech - but an elementary dirty slander.

          what slander? The metaphor is clear to everyone except you - they indirectly "supplied" Franco with equipment and weapons. Take the trouble to ask what "echo of war" was in service with Spain up to the 50s - some "donkeys" only a hundred cars. Art systems. And tanks were used as training tanks almost until the 70s. Franco set his monthly salary of 500 pesetas as a bonus for the captured T-26.
          1. kalibr
            24 August 2020 15: 57 New
            -2
            Alexander! Do not be surprised. Green is a stupid commie with experience, everything that he has in his brain is left in the past, and even overgrown. He has every bast in the line!
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 16: 01 New
              -1
              yes, now I think I understand what you meant by saying

              And the level of real VO readers is very low.
              1. kalibr
                24 August 2020 16: 35 New
                -1
                We're monitoring the level of ... comments. It got to the point that, following the monitoring results, the VO administration wrote articles ... indicating obvious nonsense. I personally managed to visit here (sit, do not fall) as an English spy, Japanese (!), Agents of the US State Department, a grant-eater ... and as an anti-Soviet, who destroyed the entire USSR from his supernumerary Penza, was all the time. So don't be surprised. He even offered to write to his "comrades" in the FSB, but they do not write something ...
                1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                  Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 16: 47 New
                  0
                  Ah-ah, so you, too, were lucky enough to be an American hireling, writing with the dirty money of the State Department, received from ... (well, there is a long chain - from the opium plantations of Afghanistan to your Yandex wallet) laughing
                  Well, no cayenne pepper can beat their class scent, yes)
                  1. Alexander Greene
                    Alexander Greene 24 August 2020 20: 13 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                    Well, no cayenne pepper can beat their class scent, yes)

                    That's right, I can see through you ...
                    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                      Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 20: 15 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      That's right, I can see through you ...

                      laughing
                      I wish you success in fluoroscopy.
                  2. kalibr
                    24 August 2020 21: 27 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                    -a-ah, so you, too, were lucky enough to be an American hireling, writing on the dirty money of the State Department, received from.

                    And then! And more than once!
                    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                      Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 22: 03 New
                      -3
                      Well, this is understandable - we, you rotten, you know, liberal intelligentsia (as one bald, but loyal Leninist used to say) destroyed the Union "for chewing gum and dzhinsy" once again, it's clear ... Well, where is this, flesh of flesh a proletarian and the salt of the earth was at that time? On a binge? Blowing his nose, sobbing, in the kitchen to the newspaper. Sweeping the shavings at the machine? Did you learn the International with Patrice Lumumba's students? Did the primus fix it without bothering anyone? And now these former vocational school Komsomol organizers are trying to quote Lenin, having a very vague idea of ​​'about his work' (c)
                2. Alexander Greene
                  Alexander Greene 24 August 2020 20: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: kalibr
                  We are tracking the level ..

                  IN AND. Lenin, when he wrote about the intelligentsia that she ... He just meant people like you ..
                  1. kalibr
                    24 August 2020 21: 26 New
                    -3
                    The sailor woman has always envied us, that's right. It was the intellectuals headed by Lenin who sent her to death, and not vice versa! We will continue to send you ...
                    1. Alexander Greene
                      Alexander Greene 26 August 2020 21: 23 New
                      +1
                      Quote: kalibr
                      We will continue to send you ...

                      Look, "the Russian revolt is senseless and merciless", many of those who sent ... paid for it.
                      1. kalibr
                        26 August 2020 21: 47 New
                        -2
                        When there was a "Russian revolt" there were no six-barreled machine guns, giving 6000 rounds per minute. After the first turn of the "riot" nothing will remain.
                      2. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 27 August 2020 15: 20 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        When there was a "Russian revolt" there were no six-barreled machine guns, giving 6000 rounds per minute.

                        The rebels will have the same machine guns.
                      3. kalibr
                        30 August 2020 16: 48 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        The rebels will have the same machine guns.

                        But this is unlikely. Did the defenders of the White House have tanks?
                      4. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 4 September 2020 22: 44 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        But this is unlikely. Did the defenders of the White House have tanks?

                        Your comment confirms once again that you were a worthless teacher of the History of the CPSU, you taught it for so many years, but did not understand that during the socialist revolution the army also went over to the side of the insurgent proletariat.

                        The epic of the White House is an inter-clan showdown of the bourgeoisie.
                      5. kalibr
                        6 September 2020 12: 47 New
                        0
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        that in time of the socialist revolution the army also goes over to the side of the insurgent proletariat.

                        Ha ha ha! This happened once, on the 17th. When the weapon was already in the hands of the boors. Now this will not happen again. She did not cross in 91, did not cross in 93, and even more so now!
                      6. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 6 September 2020 17: 09 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Ha ha ha! ... in the 17th. When boors already had weapons in their hands

                        Are you calling my grandfathers boors? .... Where would you be without the revolution of 17?
                        It is a pity that they died early, they would not allow you to parasitize on political sciences.
                        Well, as for "if they do, they will not pass", it is not for you to judge a poor student in the History of the CPSU.
                      7. kalibr
                        6 September 2020 17: 17 New
                        -1
                        Very well! And then something clicks are not enough. Well, still against the grain: "Stalin and Hitler differed only in the length of the mustache", "Lenin is a senile with complexes." Well, and your grandfathers, of course, are sad that they have such a stupid grandson in their descendants - a teacher and a demagogue. And I just would be there without 17 years old. Both my wife and I have all the ancestors were educated and wealthy people. My great-grandfather's house was built and which one back in 1882 gave all the children an education, including higher education. And by the way, they figured out in time to go to services to the boors and lived with them and at their own expense happily ever after.
                      8. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 6 September 2020 17: 29 New
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        ... by the way, they figured out in time for the boors to go to services and lived with them and at their own expense happily.


                        Well, you yourself have admitted that you and your ancestors have been making faces and parasites all your life as primitive helments in a higher organism. And only now you allowed yourself to become "brave" and reveal your true face.
                      9. kalibr
                        6 September 2020 17: 32 New
                        -1
                        I don’t know about my grandfather, but I just didn’t know. He believed that "the party is our helmsman." The boors who were dismissed did not like even then, but where to go from them. And when I found out what's what, just as the freedom of speech, for which our ancestors fought, really triumphed, so I became brave. We must take advantage of the moment you use toilet paper. Or do you prefer your fingers on the wall in a plank shovel outhouse?
                      10. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 6 September 2020 17: 36 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        I don’t know about my grandfather, but I just didn’t know. He believed that "the party is our helmsman."

                        Your excuses are credited. Okay, let it be at least three minus.
                      11. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 7 September 2020 21: 41 New
                        0
                        Good evening, Alexander! Umdel that you are on the site, I want to ask you something that was incomprehensible to me at that time. hi hi
                      12. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 9 September 2020 20: 19 New
                        -1
                        I, Alexander, do not understand about plank toilets and Khrushchevs. I know that Khrushchev buildings were massively built in the 60s of the XX century. As the author wrote earlier, many families of his classmates were given these apartments and their parents were paid more. For some reason, this did not affect the author. This is incomprehensible to me. It means that everyone had a Soviet sewage system, hot water, baths, toilets. But not the author. He used the toilet, from the antediluvian times of construction, until the year 76. Like the whole family. Somewhere there he wrote that they did not want to move ..... It is not clear. And in '76, moving to an apartment. We talk about such houses - brick Khrushchev. It turns out that several generations have lived there. ????? This is not clear.
                      13. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 9 September 2020 21: 37 New
                        +1
                        Dmitry, now such figures as Shpakosky, are now misinterpreting everything: the private toilets were in the countryside, they dug cesspools, it will fill up, pop out a new one and move the toilet there.
                        I am in 50-60. he lived in a workers' settlement during the construction of one of the hydroelectric power plants, where barracks were built for the workers (separate rooms, but with a shared kitchen and a "warm" toilet). After construction, they were demolished, all the rest were given full-fledged apartments in new buildings where toilets were in the apartment. At first, to speed up construction, cesspools were first made in some houses, but then a real sewage system was installed.
                      14. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 9 September 2020 21: 45 New
                        -1
                        As far as I understand, this wooden toilet was in that private house. This is not a Soviet, but a pre-revolutionary toilet, it would be more correct to say. But how many times there have been regrets of that house. And the toilet means. And they didn't want to leave. And I would not have asked about this if the author had not written about toilets, otherwise always.
                      15. Alexander Greene
                        Alexander Greene 9 September 2020 21: 54 New
                        0
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        As far as I understand, this wooden toilet was in that private house. This is not a Soviet, but a pre-revolutionary toilet, it would be more correct to say ..

                        Such a toilet, for example, was in my grandmother's private house, which was built in the 19th century. After the death of his grandmother in the 60s. 20th century, it burned down at the new owners.
                        For example, in Odessa, in the 50-60s. the Khrushchevs did not want to perezzat not because they were bad. but because they didn’t want to part with their neighbors in a communal apartment, because the people in them had become so close friends for many years that they were practically relatives. Many, having received new apartments, exchanged them for old communal apartments.
                      16. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 9 September 2020 21: 59 New
                        0
                        But you don't brand this toilet a pre-revolutionary shame, do you? And don't call it Soviet! That's what! The author is constantly talking about this.
                        Psss. I later corrected ---- at that private house.
                      17. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 September 2020 10: 20 New
                        0
                        Well, it says above that the house was built in 1882. And the toilet, then. Why does the author call it Soviet? It is not clear; he is pre-revolutionary.
                        It is not clear that they did not want to move for the sake of this toilet? And about the neighbors it was written that instead of them there were some relatives, there were bad relations. ....
                        It's not here, but sometime before ....... recourse
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 25 August 2020 07: 26 New
    -3
    ... We're tracking the level ...

    I have already noticed this - after one discussion with one of these local 'looking' with fingers in the admin resource, my karma fell into a hopeless minus. laughing
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 26 August 2020 21: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
      after one discussion with one of these local 'looking' with fingers in the admin resource, my karma fell into a hopeless minus

      I vmzhu you are not upset about this. Are your hzyaevs paying so well for this?
      1. kalibr
        26 August 2020 21: 51 New
        -3
        I have written to you many times that the "owners pay" for divorce on comments from people like you, and the more of them from you, the better. Their content does not matter at all and absolutely does not bother anyone.
        1. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 27 August 2020 15: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          I have written to you many times that the "owners pay" for divorce on comments from people like you, and the more of them from you, the better.

          So I'm talking about the same, happy with a jar of jam and a box of cookies.
        2. kalibr
          30 August 2020 16: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Green
          rejoices at a jar of jam and a box of cookies.

          Who is talking about what, and you just have to fill your belly ... Do not judge by your own needs, the needs of others.
        3. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 4 September 2020 22: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: kalibr
          Who is talking about what, but you just have to fill your belly ..

          Nope. sir, this is just for you, read your comments, where you rinse your dirty linen.
        4. kalibr
          6 September 2020 12: 45 New
          0
          And who always mentions sneakers in their comments? Am I?
        5. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 6 September 2020 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          And who always mentions sneakers in their comments? Am I?

          And A. Gaidar's book about the Bad Boy - isn't it about you? It’s just that then the bourgeois didn’t come up with sneakers to lure you over to their side.
        6. kalibr
          6 September 2020 17: 23 New
          -2
          I was not yet born when he wrote it ... And I was not abroad in capitalist countries at that time. And it would be ... you see, a barrel and a basket would not have done. This stupid bad guy was undernourished in a scoop. If I were in his place, I would have demanded much more - a villa, a car (two) a bank account, and a basket ... with cookies it's bad!
        7. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 6 September 2020 17: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          If I were in his place, I would have demanded much more - a villa, a car (two) bank account,

          You know, now people like you, your bosses abroad, are serving not cookies, but "Novichok".
        8. kalibr
          6 September 2020 18: 29 New
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Green
          You know, now people like you, your bosses abroad, are serving not cookies, but "Novichok".

          All of you write this out of stupidity. To give me trouble. But ... it only makes me happy. Only clicks and comments have value on VO. Their number. Your words have no value.
        9. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 7 September 2020 00: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: kalibr
          ... it only makes me happy. Only clicks and comments have value on VO. Their number. Your words have no value.

          As I understand you: helments are always happy when a cake gets into the intestines ...
        10. kalibr
          7 September 2020 06: 07 New
          -1
          HILMINTS! Squalor ...
        11. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 7 September 2020 21: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          HILMINTS! Squalor ...

          After reading your answer, I am reminded of an old anecdote.

          In the dining room, the Ukrainian asks the visitor at the next table: "Panove, please give me the STRENGTH." But he turned out to be a Georgian and corrects the Ukrainian: "It will not be STRENGTH but SOL."

          I was sealed, but you are really squalor, you didn’t even bother to look into the dictionary to check, and already hurry to correct it, it will be right “helminths».
          All this testifies to your superficiality.
        12. kalibr
          8 September 2020 15: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Green
          All this testifies to your superficiality.

          Ha, and already 152 comments and many thousands of views ...
        13. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 8 September 2020 23: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          Ha, and already 152 comments and many thousands of views.

          Bon appetite to the helminth.
  • kalibr
    8 September 2020 15: 59 New
    -1
    The last time I met with a representative of MI5 in Venice, we had a very nice time in the restaurant of the Doge's Palace ... And no one was using any "newcomers" ...
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 8 September 2020 23: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    And no one used "newbies" ...

    So they still need you, but then they will be removed as waste material.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 9 September 2020 20: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Quote: kalibr
    If I were in his place, I would have demanded much more - a villa, a car (two) bank account,

    You know, now people like you, your bosses abroad, are serving not cookies, but "Novichok".

    Do you remember, Alexander, like in Ostrovsky's play, some old woman says to her son, a minor rank?
    "Do you take bribes, son?" "No, mamma, I won't!" "Why don't you take it? You would take it!" "Yes, I would take it, mamma! Who will give it to me!" laughing lol wassat
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 23 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    And who always mentions sneakers in their comments? Am I?
    laughing lol wassat lol and who remembers the lard? And eats them, and talks about them
  • kalibr
    14 September 2020 09: 50 New
    0
    Dima! You stand up for accuracy, but you yourself misinterpret me. Not bacon, but ham. This is a big difference! About fat have never been! For bacon, this is to Green, this is his national food.
  • kalibr
    8 September 2020 16: 00 New
    -1
    And you just walk around in dirty, right? Cleanliness is the key to health!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 8 September 2020 23: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    And you just walk around in dirty, right? Cleanliness is the key to health!

    Yes, as you see, I do not erase everyone and do not flaunt it.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 9 September 2020 21: 55 New
    0
    Somehow I cease to understand you, Alexander, unfortunately. Where is the wash? If someone erases something, then improvement, cleanliness is obtained? What is cleaner and better? Um, um .... I'll figure out how best to define the process. request .
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 17: 25 New
    -1
    [quote = Reptiloid] Somehow I cease to understand you, Alexander, unfortunately.
    This requires brains, Dmitry!
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 31 New
    +1
    So tell me, what did you do there? Or washed-washed-washed-washed ... and did not reach? What was Alexander hinting at? What do you erase in front of everyone, I see that you have understood his words?
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 17: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Somehow I cease to understand you, Alexander, unfortunately. Where is the wash?

    This is a figurative expression, but about Shpakosky it would be more accurate - "dirty linen, ie, its insides, not ashamed, turns in front of everyone."
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 18: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Somehow I cease to understand you, Alexander, unfortunately. Where is the wash?

    This is a figurative expression, but about Shpakosky it would be more accurate - "dirty linen, ie, its insides, not ashamed, turns in front of everyone."

    Greetings, Alexander hi laughing have not seen such an expression. But nothing was getting cleaner? Here I am right. And about the expression --- yes, it may be suitable, but not very .......
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 17: 31 New
    -1
    I try to do everything according to the Bible, but it says: "... and made a good confession before many witnesses ..." (First Epistle to Timothy 6:12)
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 18: 01 New
    0
    What was it? What was washed in front of everyone and what became cleaner if it became? Or was it not to wash, but wanted?
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 18: 16 New
    -1
    More clicks, squalor!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 18: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    I try to do everything according to the Bible,

    You wrote earlier that you are an atheist, and suddenly the Bible ... You want to get in there too, but taking into account, with such a mercantile soul, like yours, they do not go to heaven, this is also written in bilya. Remember the parable about the camel and the eye of a needle?
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 18: 18 New
    0
    I remember, but it was said: you will not sin, you will not repent, you will not repent, you will not sin. Prince Vladimir had concubines in Belgorod, Vyshgorod, Kiev, and did not let the honest ones through, but repented and became a saint! Everything was forgiven him!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 18: 44 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    but repented and became a saint! Everything was forgiven him!

    This is not enough, you still have to distribute all the money to the poor, otherwise you will not be able to crawl through the needle.
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 18: 51 New
    0
    There is no information about what needs to be distributed in the Bible. And the ear ... without breaking the eggs you won't know whether the eggs came out or not!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 13 September 2020 21: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    Prince Vladimir had concubines in Belgorod, Vyshgorod, Kiev, and did not let the honest ones through, but repented and became a saint! Everything was forgiven him!

    Only priests, and they are not gods.
  • kalibr
    14 September 2020 09: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Only priests, and they are not gods.

    I don’t know how you know this. The ordained and the churched say that EVERYTHING IS FORGIVEN. And you are ordained to what rank?
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 15 September 2020 00: 15 New
    +1
    [quote = kalibr] I don't know how you know this ....... [quote]
    And I was a good student when I studied atheism at the university, which at that time was not yet an elective
  • kalibr
    15 September 2020 05: 43 New
    -1
    Better not to study, but to go to church. They will explain everything to you much better than in a Soviet university.
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 21: 06 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    Better not to study, but to go to church.

    And this is the former teacher of Eastpart! Shame! Don't you know that the churchmen are lying, then I wouldn't even answer three with a minus.
  • kalibr
    26 August 2020 21: 44 New
    -2
    Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
    my karma fell into a hopeless minus.

    "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 24 August 2020 20: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
    what slander?

    I have already noticed that you are an expert in justifying any mischief.
    1. kalibr
      24 August 2020 21: 24 New
      -3
      Of course, there is no such beastliness from which a real PR man would not cut himself a slice of ham.
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 8 September 2020 23: 19 New
        +1
        Yes, what a PR man you are, a poor student, they even flooded you from work from the institute. Valuable workers are not scattered.
        1. kalibr
          9 September 2020 12: 39 New
          -1
          Your ignorance is simply depressing. Just imagine that the textbooks for the poor students are not published and the RHNF does not give grants either, and if a person has textbooks and grants, then they are not "bulging". Textbooks and grants are the foundation of the university today.
          1. Alexander Greene
            Alexander Greene 9 September 2020 21: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: kalibr
            then these are not "stick out".

            They keep the honored, they work until they are carried forward with their feet, they give them full salaries, they are allowed to work up to the "Veteran of Labor", which gives great advantages over ordinary pensioners. So, already knowing your commercialism, I do not believe that you are from all this refused themselves.
            1. kalibr
              10 September 2020 07: 13 New
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Green
              So, already knowing your commercialism

              You are an impenetrable dumbass after all, Green! It was just the commercialism that made me give a damn about all this. Why work hard and get little when you can work less, do what you like, and get a lot more? Do you think I'm an idiot, you see, or are you judging by yourself? Here's an example. My daughter is also a candidate of historical sciences, assistant professor, but, of course, she is younger than me. 18 years of work at the university, successful - you can work in E.lab. see how many articles and books she has. But ... tired of getting pennies. I started working as a realtor and bought a car three months later. So I still lingered to spit with the Armed Forces ... And the last straw was the merger of the Russian Foundation for Humanities and the Russian Foundation for Basic Research and the abolition of grants "k" for monographs. This was the only thing that kept me in the Armed Forces, because grants for this article were given to me with enviable regularity, and here - figurines - a grant only for the publication of a book, and the author .... And what am I going to work for nothing? Rating points do not pay off such work. And before that? Rating points + fee, + royalty, + grant = you take and go to Europe with the whole family and still have ...
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 15 New
                +1
                Last time you wrote that your daughter was selling masks against coronavirus by phone.
              2. kalibr
                11 September 2020 17: 33 New
                0
                Dima, she was a realtor four years ago, and now she is a sales manager for elite handbags, but due to the quarantine, their company was ordered to sew masks. But right now she is generally in Turkey with her husband ...
              3. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 51 New
                0
                Whether it is a realtor, or a sales manager, or anything else, this is a specialty of a sales agent. And do you think this is better than in your specialty?
              4. kalibr
                11 September 2020 18: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And do you think this is better than in your specialty?

                Of course, if you get more at times!
              5. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 11 September 2020 18: 27 New
                0
                Quote: kalibr
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And do you think this is better than in your specialty?

                Of course, if you get more at times!
                When I was 18, I immediately went to the university. I figured it out earlier.
              6. kalibr
                11 September 2020 18: 53 New
                0
                Well done, Dmitry! Now you have your own company and 30 people of hard physical labor work for you. Glad, very glad!
              7. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 11 September 2020 19: 42 New
                0
                What for? I am not a serious person. Of course, from time to time there are joint directions, some kind of responsibility. But I organize my time myself. This works for me. I don’t think to change anything yet.
              8. kalibr
                14 September 2020 09: 40 New
                0
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I don’t think to change anything yet.

                That's right, Dima! If your arms are strong and your chest is big - better not be a historian, be a loader!
              9. kalibr
                14 September 2020 09: 41 New
                0
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I am not a serious person.

                That's noticeable!
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 12 September 2020 08: 42 New
              0
              I understand that you have such plans for your daughter?
              Quote: kalibr
              ...... own company ....... employs 30 people of hard physical labor. Glad, very glad!
              after all, as you wrote above ----
              ...... you get more at times .....
              ... Well ----- success.
            3. kalibr
              14 September 2020 09: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Reptiloid
              I understand that

              "Understood" is not your strong point, Dima. You still have problems with this ...
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 17: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    And what, am I going to work for nothing? Rating points do not pay off such work

    For people like you, when money also appears and you want honor, I'm not saying that the authorities are also, which one of you is the "lord", but here, alas, they kicked out, and the "Veteran of Labor" was cut off ..
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    A person with 40 printed books and 6 electronic and thousands of publications around the world does not need some kind of "veteran". This is all you have left of the scoop. Modern people laugh at these tsatski ...
    And I have already written to Dima, and I will repeat myself. A real communist should not replicate unverified information. By doing this, he undermines confidence in himself and in his idea, but this is impossible. You understand that in the age of the Internet, your stupid passages are read at my university. People who know all about it. They, of course, do not care about the commies from Ukraine, but ... there is an aftertaste that "they are all like that." And you want to preserve the aura of holiness. Do not spoil yourself what you can not spoil. You will be respected more. Laugh? Yes, laugh, but also respect. You will not understand me with this anyway, it only saddens me when the royalties are delayed. But when people see you as an ordinary, narrow-minded person, what kind of respect for the idea for which he stands? The people who stand for her like that ... discredit her more. By the way, Undecimus already wrote to you about this ...
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 18: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    The people who stand for her like that ... discredit her more.

    Exposing the shape-shifter, do you consider it worthless? I have you as an exhibit, as soon as I write something, you reveal more and more new aspects of your rebirth, you can already write a dissertation on the psychology of "stripped" based on your materials.
  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 18: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Exposing the shape-shifter, do you consider it worthless?

    I consider it unworthy to disseminate unverified information.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 08: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Exposing the shape-shifter, do you consider it worthless?

    I consider it unworthy to disseminate unverified information.

    As you yourself wrote, your toilet was pre-revolutionary, and you repeatedly scolded it Soviet. And if it was built under the tsar, then maybe it would be better to say --- the tsar's toilet?
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 11: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Reptiloid
    the royal toilet?

    In Soviet times? You are laughing. In Soviet times, EVERYTHING was Soviet. National, so to speak, wealth. And the toilet, and what is in its pit!
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 11: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: Reptiloid
    the royal toilet?

    In Soviet times? You are laughing. In Soviet times, EVERYTHING was Soviet. National, so to speak, wealth. And the toilet, and what is in its pit!
    unclear. YOU are working on this topic now, when the USSR is long gone. It's time to restore historical justice and name it correctly. Outhouse - the legacy of my beloved (you, it means) tsarism
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 11: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    loved by me

    How did you decide that you are a loved one? You took over from Green's nasty habit of attributing to people what they never claimed and never really happened. A bunch of crooks cannot destroy a build worthy of existence. This also applies to tsarist Russia and the USSR.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 12: 11 New
    +2
    ....... beloved ......
    Well, you, you said a PR man, cut off the bacon in pieces. ? Directly, indirectly, using subtext .... this is, you said your specialty, PR. .... supposedly.
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 12: 34 New
    -1
    Why is it "favorite". Cutting off not bacon, but a piece of ham is one thing - to assert in writing that autocracy in Russia is my love - another. Even you should understand this! And why "supposedly". 5 textbooks on PR is not enough for you: 3 in Russia and 2 in Germany? Don't take my word for it - open the Lambert and Infra Engineering website and see ...
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 13: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    Why is it "favorite". Cutting off not bacon, but a piece of ham is one thing - to assert in writing that autocracy in Russia is my love - another. Even you should understand this! And why "supposedly". 5 textbooks on PR is not enough for you: 3 in Russia and 2 in Germany? Don't take my word for it - open the Lambert and Infra Engineering website and see ...

    Moreover, it means that your qualifications allow you to show love for tsarism and the tsar without direct statements, ... but I did not find love for modern Russia, both in words and without words.
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 15: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    I have not found love for modern Russia, both in words and without words.

    In-oh-from! And this assumption "allows"! And the assumption is not CONFIDENCE! You, Dima, haven't you visited the site author. today did not see my books there? There is one book "The Season of Love" well, that's just for you. If you read it, you will see that I can write about this anyway. But this does not mean that I DO IT all the time. So do not attribute various nonsense to me, leave this to Green, let the person rejoice.
    And so that you don't think at all: I DON'T LIKE tsarism in Russia, I don’t like socialism, and I don’t like Nazism in Germany and fascism in Italy either. But under tsarism, and under socialism, and under fascism, there was a LOT OF GOOD. I like the good. Bad - no! If there is more good, the state LIVES; if there is more bad, it DOES. Explained easily?
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 17: 29 New
    +2
    About two and a half years ago on Ozone I read descriptions and reviews (about which I wrote here) about your books. It's enough. There is nothing else to look for
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 18: 41 New
    -1
    Dmitriy! It is not necessary to read on Ozone. And on the site where they are published by those who purchased and read them. What are you ... ill-considered. You need to use different sources. For example, there is a woman Astra here ... they would ask her, she is kind, she will not bite and will not take money for demand. I'm always interested when someone advises me to do something. And I always try to get my own idea of ​​the subject. Here, Nikolai, who could also tell you "pane kokhanku". You are stupid, Dmitry, you do not need to read yourself, but ask for advice from smart and knowledgeable people.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 19: 02 New
    +2
    laughing ы lol this is not a topic that I would have studied for years.
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 19: 04 New
    -1
    Do you really read so badly that it takes years for a 10 copyright work of art?
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 19: 09 New
    +1
    Don't you understand Russian, it is written
    .....It's enough.......
    ! Funny - some polls. I am not interested.
  • kalibr
    12 September 2020 21: 22 New
    -1
    I always, Dima, hope that in addition to stupidity, people still have a bit of intelligence. It is not my fault that I am often mistaken in this.
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 13 September 2020 21: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    I consider it unworthy to disseminate unverified information.

    Yes, you have said so much about yourself that it immediately drags on for 10 years without the right to correspond.
  • kalibr
    14 September 2020 09: 37 New
    0
    I can write anything about myself. The spread of speculation about others is already slander.
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 15 September 2020 00: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    I can write anything about myself. The spread of speculation about others is already slander.

    And you also, it turns out, suffer from a lack of logic ...
    What kind of slander is this if you write this about yourself?
  • kalibr
    15 September 2020 05: 39 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    What is this slander

    This is what others are writing! Available? A person cannot slander himself. This is called fantasy ...
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 20: 55 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    This is what others are writing! Available? A person cannot slander himself. This is called fantasy ...

    Excuse me, if you write this about yourself, why can't I write about it too?
    Looking at your "fantasies", I recall the words of Yaroslav Hasek, who wrote that he loves to observe people who make idiots in the square out of themselves.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 September 2020 18: 20 New
    +1
    hi Alexander, good evening
    .......anything.....
    Well, how it happens, it turns out, Got it, tongue tongue wassat whatever, and then to the readers of the pretense. One is not so, the other is not so wink
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  • kalibr
    11 September 2020 19: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    based on your materials, you can already have a dissertation in psychology

    You can, but you will not have time to protect it!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 13 September 2020 21: 52 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    You can, but you will not have time to protect it!

    We even defend against newspaper articles, but here you can write a whole monograph.
  • kalibr
    14 September 2020 09: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    and here you can write a whole monograph.

    Write! The best advertisement is a scandal!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 15 September 2020 00: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    The best advertisement is a scandal!

    I don't know, people of honor, people usually shoot after such advertising.
  • kalibr
    15 September 2020 05: 40 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    I don't know, people of honor, people usually shoot after such advertising.

    In Russia after 1917, people of honor were gone ...
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 20: 57 New
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    In Russia after 1917, people of honor were gone.

    You don't know your people well, your eyes are covered with bucks.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 September 2020 18: 29 New
    +1
    ....I do not know.....
    now, Alexander, the scandal has become a kind of show, like, we stock up on popcorn, we watch the spectacle of how the red-haired clown is there, kicked, pushed, tripped, cracked on the head, or even pulled off his pants, and the clown is happy to try, After all, he is for the sake of money Cheers, encores, clicks, congratulations ...
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 September 2020 08: 52 New
    +1
    I suppose that Alexander is not at all disturbed by the thoughts of distant teachers. He has a completely different program. That is why he rarely writes comments. It's a pity. I happen to read his comments without regard to the article. And more than once.
  • kalibr
    14 September 2020 09: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    give them full rates

    Go to the website of our university, the Department of Philosophy and Social Communications. There is a list of groups. None of them have 25 people. And 25 is the norm by the hour. No people, no watch, no watch, no full rate. In addition, women with children are primarily provided with hours. I am not a woman and have not had minor children for a long time.
  • Nitochkin
    Nitochkin 24 August 2020 02: 45 New
    +1
    "Well, our former Spanish military advisers, later becoming our" prominent military leaders ", clearly did not try to tell about their own mistakes, even if they were made to please the almighty leader. After all, it was obvious who was better able to use the experience of Spain."

    "Any donkey can kick a dead lion." Eastern proverb
    1. kalibr
      24 August 2020 08: 01 New
      -3
      Quote: Nitochkin
      "Any donkey can kick a dead lion."

      And goats too ...
    2. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 24 August 2020 08: 31 New
      -1
      "Any donkey can kick a dead lion." Eastern proverb


      What's wrong with this thesis?
  • kalibr
    6 September 2020 17: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    It's you

    And immediately on "you", as if it were more offensive. The sailor is the sailor ...
  • kalibr
    9 September 2020 12: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Valuable workers are not scattered.

    They themselves leave when they get sick of everything. Do you think that university work is such a valuable thing for me? I have 40 printed publications, 6 electronic, 1370 articles on VO, 307 on Pravda.ru and God knows how many on other sites and magazines. Why should I work for someone when I already have a pension ?!
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 9 September 2020 21: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      Why should I work for someone when I already have a pension ?!

      And "Veteran of Labor" does not warm you up? There are so many benefits.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 September 2020 22: 17 New
        0
        Maybe it's not about the Labor Veteran? But after 40 years of teaching experience, some honorary titles are usually awarded. Is the pension more? Benefits, like?
        And by ear, 40 is better than 38. Now, if 30, then nothing else. The man found the best place. But 38 is suspicious. Everyone knows ---- people are in these places to death.
        1. kalibr
          10 September 2020 07: 05 New
          -1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          But 38 is suspicious. Everyone knows ---- people are in these places to death.

          Dima, even you, with your pitiful little mind, should realize: in the Internet era, people cannot give false information, since it is also used by those who know about certain events not from the words of an out-of-mind sailor, but because of their participation in them. VO is read not only by you and Green, but also by members of my department and other involved persons. Explained easily? And unfounded claims - think again - do more harm to whoever makes them than to whom they are directed. A person who considers himself a communist should especially take care of himself. It is clear that he is also a man and he wants to make another byaka. But, think for the third time, by this he shows that he is the same as everyone else. A communist has to be the best, okay? Lies in small, what to expect from him in big? And "Everyone knows" is not an argument, Dmitry, how much to explain to you? "Everyone" is nobody? It is you? Or are you familiar with candidates and doctors of sciences and professors? But if you are engaged in conspiracy fabrications, then why don't you think, but is it not suspicious that only I have 20 colleagues, but none of them writes on VO, although there are three doctors of sciences, and money is never superfluous , the more lightweight? And people from many other departments too ... Read, read, but ... are silent. Think about this ...
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 10 September 2020 09: 13 New
            +1
            Why worry about our mistakes? If they are errors? Paaaaduma! People here and more serious can be wrong and are wrong. And even what author. winked request And this is bewilderment and speculation. So what? Agree that this is a very unusual situation. Moreover, as you yourself have repeatedly written, your pension is very small. And then write, why work, if there is a penalty? And so it would be one and a half times more. After all, you follow and take into account every click, every view and often mention it. And here --- did you not attend to a significant part of your pension? For example, books are being published right now, but not tomorrow? And why should I think about people unknown to me? There are many more non-writers here than you have counted.
            Even here, on the site there are people with more than 40 years of experience and they write books ...
            1. kalibr
              10 September 2020 10: 48 New
              -1
              Dmitry, I am not worried about your mistakes, God save me, I am worried about the spread of inaccurate information by ignoramuses. You, Dmitry, constantly confuse the concepts of working for the state and working for yourself. My pension is small from the state and I no longer want to work for it. And why you, apparently, cannot explain it, because it is useless for a deaf person to talk about music.
              Quote: Reptiloid
              books are being published right now, but not tomorrow?

              Have you heard anything about royalty? Did you know that it costs 20 thousand to write a single advertising article in a provincial newspaper for a company or on its website? I wrote two in the morning - here's a pension and live for your pleasure. And then there are magazines, right? Printed. You at least sometimes buy Secrets of the XX century. It's interesting there. Look at the Truth. RU. There are no more articles of mine. Do you know why? They paid 200 rubles. for 8000 characters. It's not profitable!
              Quote: Reptiloid
              Even here, on the site there are people with more than 40 years of experience and they write books ...

              Oh really? Are there many of them here?
              So, Dima, do not try to be clever where you have no ear or snout. First, you must at least graduate from some lousy university, and then ...
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 10 September 2020 11: 01 New
                +1
                Aha! Arrivals and rudeness began to appear, to Green, above. So there are no arguments. recourse Why should I be clever in front of you? You are greatly mistaken about your importance to me winked lol laughing
                There was always a bewilderment why explain to everyone all the backstage fuss request ? Clicks, interest, payments ... ... for your former colleagues you mentioned? Unclear. After all, no one was interested in details. .... strange
                1. kalibr
                  10 September 2020 11: 27 New
                  -1
                  And I, Dmitry, do not need arguments to communicate with stupid people. This is firstly, and secondly, I don't care what to write to you, as long as you and others like you answered and thus the investment attractiveness of the site would increase. Thinking over the answer is too much honor for you that comes to mind, so I write. And the details ... And what if you or someone else is interested ... word for word, then and there, fifth or tenth ... yes? Explained easily? The work is like this. Pretty funny, by the way.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 September 2020 11: 44 New
                    +1
                    And if it doesn't matter what to write, why did they write so many times about the Soviet outhouse? You had a pre-revolutionary toilet, 100 years old. And not at all Soviet. You have a Soviet sewage system.
                    1. kalibr
                      10 September 2020 20: 37 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Why then so many times have they written about the Soviet toilet?

                      And people like it, so I wrote. The journalist writes for whom? For people!
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 11 September 2020 16: 58 New
                        +1
                        to call the pre-revolutionary toilet a Soviet one and on this basis to scold it is a distortion. After all, we are talking about your toilet.
                      2. kalibr
                        11 September 2020 17: 35 New
                        0
                        Dima, so it has not been updated since that time. So from tsarism and passed into Soviet power. And at first it was nationalized to her along with the house, and then again - denationalized in 28.
                      3. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 18 September 2020 21: 18 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Dima, so it has not been updated since that time. So from tsarism and passed into Soviet power. And at first it was nationalized to her along with the house, and then again - denationalized in 28.

                        Why haven't they updated? Were you waiting for his 100th birthday? We almost didn’t wait.
                    2. Alexander Greene
                      Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 17: 38 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      to call the pre-revolutionary toilet a Soviet one and on this basis to scold it is a distortion. After all, we are talking about your toilet.

                      Dima, this is no longer a distortion, this is his senile marasmus. His eyes are glued with dollars, so he can no longer distinguish anything.
                    3. kalibr
                      11 September 2020 19: 15 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      dollars are glued

                      Better dollars than hryvnias, right?
                    4. Alexander Greene
                      Alexander Greene 13 September 2020 21: 53 New
                      +1
                      Quote: kalibr
                      Better dollars than hryvnias, right?

                      If at the rate, then indifferent.
                    5. kalibr
                      14 September 2020 07: 15 New
                      0
                      There is also a big difference. At exchange offices, dollars are taken everywhere. Here with the hryvnia in Spain, I saw myself, there was a problem with tourists.
                    6. Alexander Greene
                      Alexander Greene 15 September 2020 00: 28 New
                      +1
                      Quote: kalibr
                      with hryvnia in Spain, I saw it myself, there was a problem

                      This is only in Spain, but take Turkey, Eastern Europe, they are simply flooded with hryvnias, so there is no difference, the printed cost of these pieces of paper is penny, even less than the Jewish 30 pieces of silver.
                    7. kalibr
                      15 September 2020 05: 41 New
                      0
                      In money, it is not the print value that is important, but their purchasing power!
                    8. Alexander Greene
                      Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 21: 00 New
                      0
                      Quote: kalibr
                      In money, it is not the print value that is important, but their purchasing power!

                      What is the difference, "30 silversmiths" burn the hands of traitors all the same.
                    9. kalibr
                      18 September 2020 21: 54 New
                      0
                      Only small metal money is heated, but large paper money does not!
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 15 September 2020 18: 32 New
                  +1
                  Yes, Alexander! I'm wondering, it turns out that then Judas was alone, but now for some reason there are more of them ...
                3. kalibr
                  18 September 2020 21: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  but now for some reason there are more of them ...

                  Progress, Dima, it is in everything!
                4. Alexander Greene
                  Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 22: 38 New
                  +1
                  Quote: kalibr
                  Progress, Dima, it is in everything!

                  In fact, this is regression and degradation, and progress is when the number of honest and conscientious people is constantly growing. So you are a child of degradation.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 September 2020 19: 14 New
    +2
    ... I don't want to work for him anymore ...
    unclear. Why? This is not the USSR, which you hate? New capitalist state. Somewhere above they criticized the USSR and praised capitalism ..... But you don't want to work for it.
    1. kalibr
      10 September 2020 20: 31 New
      -1
      Dmitry, you can't be so primitive. Where do you see complete perfection? I like that you can freely travel wherever you want and - thanks to capitalism for that. But there are still a lot of fools, he was unable to squeeze them - "two" to him for this! And I work only for those who, as I believe, pay me adequately for work. And it's capitalism or "sicism" I don't care. Explained easily or continue to chew? In fact, I don't care about all the "isms", it seems that they excite you. One thing is important for me - to do what I am interested in, and so that the state does not interfere with my earning too much. It will interfere too much, I will become a communist more active than your Green!
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 17: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        ... It will interfere too much, I will become a communist more active than your Green!

        Hardly, once betrayed there is no faith.
        1. kalibr
          11 September 2020 19: 17 New
          -1
          So I'm not going to the barricades. It is important there - he will not betray. I will write, and people, after reading, will willingly go there themselves ...
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 02 New
    0
    Why lousy? The bosses at work think differently and every year, sometimes more often, they send them to promotion courses, trainings. I wrote about this once. You do not understand, you probably have none of this.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 September 2020 17: 11 New
    0
    ..... sailors ....
    At the beginning of the 20th century, various parties of opposite directions tried to lure the revolutionary sailors to their side.
    Revolutionary sailors - that was power! They were respected.
    Forum member Alexander Grin, not only a communist, but also was in leadership positions, he wrote about his higher education and that specialty.
    1. kalibr
      11 September 2020 17: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Reptiloid
      to their side of the revolutionary sailors.
      Revolutionary sailors - that was power! They were respected.
      Forum member Alexander Grin, not only a communist, but also was in leadership positions

      Cannon fodder was always required. And for his leadership positions I ... deeply purple.
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 11 September 2020 18: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    Lies in small, what to expect from him in big? And "Everyone knows" is not an argument,

    And where am I lying? Where do I write that "everyone knows" ?, that you are our "Baron Munchausen", only that, unlike you, was a harmless liar, but you shit for the entire Soviet period of the life of our people. Someday it will come back to haunt ...
    1. kalibr
      11 September 2020 19: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Green
      here you are shitting for the entire Soviet period of the life of our people

      He deserved it! Otherwise it would have stood like a mountain now. And he is not your people, he is his own. I didn’t go for a scoop to the barricades in 91,93rd, and now it won’t go even more so.
      By the way, the number of comments we have already exceeded 220. Let's accelerate to 300, huh? I'll write this: "Stalin and Hitler differed only in the length of the mustache!" I have already written, but the truth does not fade from repetition.
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 13 September 2020 21: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        I didn’t go for a scoop to the barricades in 91,93rd, and now it won’t go even more so.

        I have written to you about these reasons more than once. and you have not managed to master them, and you keep repeating yourself What is this: passionate insanity or stupidity?
        1. kalibr
          14 September 2020 07: 13 New
          -1
          Neither one nor the other. It's just that the job is to find people easily divorced and with their help increase the number of clicks and comments, which increases the investment attractiveness of the site. Here is a wonderful example of Reptilian, but you are even better ...
          1. Alexander Greene
            Alexander Greene 15 September 2020 00: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: kalibr
            but you are even better ...

            You see, we have a mutual interest: you get more clicks and cookies, and me a perfect example of a renegade. Not every time you will find someone as outspoken as you. For the sake of courage, where the stupidity of you and rushing.
            1. kalibr
              15 September 2020 05: 47 New
              0
              You cannot hold out on ideals for long, you cannot sew them a fur coat, and you cannot dine with them. Clicks and comments - or rather, they pay for it!
              1. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 21: 14 New
                +1
                Quote: kalibr
                You can't last long on ideals, you can't sew a fur coat of them

                I advise you to sew a red fur coat.
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 15 September 2020 18: 37 New
              +1
              Yes, I wonder, Alexander, for whom are all these words to a greater extent ---- for the readers here or for the neighbors there? Probably for the neighbors there. We are here anonymously winked
              1. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 21: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Yes, I wonder, Alexander, for whom are all these words to a greater extent ---- for the readers here or for the neighbors there?

                It was he who took a bite at the bit and is trying to prove that he does not care about our opinion, he, as they say, in the proverb "For the sake of a good word will not regret his father." But here he does not spare himself. He is so stupid that he simply does not understand that by doing so he makes himself an idiot in front of everyone.
              2. kalibr
                17 September 2020 21: 38 New
                0
                Quote: Alexander Green
                He is so stupid that he simply does not understand that by doing so he makes himself an idiot in front of everyone.

                And the clicks go on and on ... Your empty words add investment attractiveness to the site. Therefore, everything that you do not write +.
              3. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 17 September 2020 21: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: kalibr
                And the clicks go on and on ... Your empty words add investment attractiveness to the site. Therefore, everything that you do not write +.

                Good health, it's me from the bottom of my heart, in Russia the blessed have always been sorry.
              4. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 18 September 2020 06: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Green
                Quote: kalibr
                And the clicks go on and on ... Your empty words add investment attractiveness to the site. Therefore, everything that you do not write +.

                Good health, it's me from the bottom of my heart, in Russia the blessed have always been sorry.

                I am glad Alexander appreciates your comments. Word empty--- exactly, out of envy
              5. kalibr
                18 September 2020 08: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I am glad Alexander appreciates your comments. The word is empty --- sure, with envy

                What, Dima? Now there are already 280 comments ... Let's boost it to 300, huh?
              6. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 21: 53 New
                0
                Quote: kalibr
                What, Dima? Now there are already 280 comments ... Let's boost it to 300, huh?

                Dima, let him drive ... "Whatever the child is amusing himself, if only he does not cry." Let's read the next portion of nonsense, even if we laugh.
              7. kalibr
                18 September 2020 22: 12 New
                -1
                Laughter, they say, prolongs life, but you can't even buy a crust of bread for it ... Two met ... old and small, both of them are milked like a sidor's goat, and they are happy! Such readers are direct to me a gift of fate!
              8. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 22: 46 New
                +1
                Quote: kalibr
                Such readers are a gift of fate to me!

                You will repeat yourself, but this is not fancy.
            3. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 18 September 2020 22: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Green
              Quote: kalibr
              What, Dima? Now there are already 280 comments ... Let's boost it to 300, huh?

              Dima, let him drive ... "Whatever the child is amusing himself, if only he does not cry." Let's read the next portion of nonsense, even if we laugh.

              I am at the dacha, it so happened, if there is an advertisement on TV ---- to this article ........ We don't see you often, unfortunately, .... to chat. I, maybe a month ago, or maybe more, there was about sour soup and food from the pan in secret from others .... when else will I ask ?.
            4. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 18 September 2020 22: 46 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Green
              Quote: kalibr
              What, Dima? Now there are already 280 comments ... Let's boost it to 300, huh?

              Dima, let him drive ... "Whatever the child is amusing himself, if only he does not cry." Let's read the next portion of nonsense, even if we laugh.

              Yes, the author probably wrote half of the comments himself. I did not notice this.
        2. kalibr
          18 September 2020 08: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          exactly out of envy

          To a loser?
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 18 September 2020 21: 14 New
          +1
          So funny, laughing tongue wassat lol If you, Alexander, had any uninteresting comments, then there would be no conversation
        4. kalibr
          18 September 2020 21: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Reptiloid
          It's so funny, If you, Alexander, had any uninteresting comments, then there would be no conversation

          What is important, Dima, is not their content, but the fact that they exist at all. For example, you could generally only put +++++ - - - - and faces. And that would be quite enough!
    2. kalibr
      18 September 2020 08: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Green
      in Russia

      You are not in Russia, and this is your happiness ... If you were here, you would not have written half of what you write ...
    3. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 21: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      You are not in Russia, and this is your happiness ... If you were here, you would not have written half of what you write ...

      I enjoy the democratic freedoms of the bourgeois Constitution ..
    4. kalibr
      18 September 2020 22: 10 New
      0
      Smart people come up with ideas, mediocre people make them come true, stupid people use and don't thank!
    5. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 22: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      many people come up with

      I suppose you ranked yourself among the clever? But I didn’t see that you came up with something new, sheer plagiarism in the form of copyright and rewriting, and even drawings for one of your books and those from someone slammed.
    6. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 18 September 2020 23: 12 New
      +2
      Yes, Alexander. If the percentage of purchased books is very small, which needs to be offered by the piece, then these are very smart books. In accordance with Pareto law and comments about articles below
      Thus, the more demand for a book or article, especially if suddenly 80% of it purchased it, the more stupid it is. And if few people have purchased or read it, it turns out that this is an inaccessible masterpiece.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 September 2020 22: 54 New
    +2
    Yes, indeed, it has been repeatedly disrespectful about my older relatives before ....
    Quote: Alexander Green
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Yes, I wonder, Alexander, for whom are all these words to a greater extent ---- for the readers here or for the neighbors there?

    It was he who took a bite at the bit and is trying to prove that he does not care about our opinion, he, as they say, in the proverb "For the sake of a good word will not regret his father." But here he does not spare himself. He is so stupid that he simply does not understand that by doing so he makes himself an idiot in front of everyone.
  • kalibr
    17 September 2020 21: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Yes, I wonder, Alexander, for whom are all these words to a greater extent ---- for the readers here or for the neighbors there?

    Neither one nor the other, Dima. This is for those who buy ads here. The more clicks there are, the more expensive it is!
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 September 2020 06: 59 New
    +1
    In general, this is a desire to pull the blanket over yourself.
    It's good that there are more readable and more clickable authors
  • kalibr
    18 September 2020 08: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    It's good that there are more readable and more clickable authors

    Dima, you are utterly stupid. No more readable and less. There is one common piggy bank to which we all contribute. And "more" is not always a good indicator. As you know, 80% of people are completely stupid and poorly educated, but they also read. So this audience is closer to someone, to someone that has a higher intelligence. Explained easily?
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 September 2020 21: 09 New
    +2
    Contradict yourself again.
  • kalibr
    18 September 2020 21: 18 New
    -2
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Contradict yourself again.

    Never!
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 21: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    Never

    Never say "NEVER"., As they say in an old Russian proverb: "Do not excuse yourself from money and prison"
  • kalibr
    18 September 2020 22: 08 New
    -1
    Alexander, my congratulations - already 294 comments, and I bet there will be 300. Let's breed, huh? And I don't believe in old Russian sayings. I have a different motto, "Everyone is a blacksmith of his own happiness!"
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 18 September 2020 22: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: kalibr
    I have a different motto, "Everyone is the smith of his own happiness!"

    And the blacksmith is not insured either from prison or from money.
  • kalibr
    17 September 2020 21: 40 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Green
    I have written to you about these reasons more than once.

    Probably both insanity and stupidity. Repeat again, I am sometimes very dull.
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 19 September 2020 14: 28 New
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      Repeat again, I am sometimes very dull.

      It is felt. This confirms your stupidity. After all, those who could not master either physics or mathematics went to the Faculty of History.
      1. kalibr
        19 September 2020 15: 58 New
        -1
        That's it, Green, the conversation is over. You don't have to try anymore. There are 300 clicks, even 307 clicks, I won the bet, I got the money. We need to work on other sites. Chao!
        1. Alexander Greene
          Alexander Greene 20 September 2020 18: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          Chao!

          As you command, thank you for your frank statements, you have said so much about yourself that now it is more than enough for me to teach young Bolsheviks to identify all kinds of renegades.
  • kalibr
    10 September 2020 06: 55 New
    -1
    Never fought for free cheese in a mousetrap.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 September 2020 23: 16 New
    +2
    Why was it there for 38 years if it is not valuable? True, Alexander. Unclear.
  • kalibr
    10 September 2020 11: 29 New
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Clicks, interest, payments ... ... for your former colleagues you mentioned?

    And this too, they may be interested. As well as what specimens of the human race have to be encountered here.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 September 2020 11: 47 New
      +1
      You want to show them how well you feel without them. So I got drunk
      1. kalibr
        10 September 2020 11: 48 New
        -1
        Your best comment, Dmitry! Thank you very much.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 10 September 2020 19: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: kalibr
          Your best comment, Dmitry! Thank you very much.

          Class! You got burned If you want to show something to those with whom you stopped working.
          ...... how do you feel good without them ......
          ! Somewhere a dog rummaged! As your beloved Gorbachev said
          1. kalibr
            10 September 2020 20: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Class! You got burned If you want to show something to those with whom you stopped working.

            Oh, Dima, Dima, I praised you early. Only the grave will fix the hunchback, you cannot understand a damn thing. By the way, why is Gorbachev my favorite? That's really ...