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"Lost house": workers of BelAZ plant joined the strike in Belarus

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"Lost house": workers of BelAZ plant joined the strike in Belarus

There are reports from Belarus that more and more enterprises are joining the strike. It became known that the so-called “Italian strike” (when people come to work, but refuse to work - until the requirements are met) were supported by ordinary employees of one of the largest car factories in Belarus - BelAZ. It is a company with an annual turnover of over 900 million euros and a workforce of at least 10 thousand people.


The strike of BelAZ workers is greeted with enthusiasm by the Western media, as well as pro-Western Belarusian resources.

The workers, who have already gathered on the territory of the plant in a "strike" format of several hundred people, are shouting the slogan "Go away!" Against this background, demands are being made "to hold fair elections in the country."

The shouts of the people are supported by car horns:



It is important to note that the main market for BelAZ is the Russian Federation. Our country purchases more than 55% of the produced mining dump trucks, loaders and up to 80% of components for them.

If the plant stops its work, it will cause irreparable damage not only to the plant, but also to the economy of the Republic of Belarus.

In the Russian blogosphere, the situation at "BelAZ" was designated by the well-known expression of the Russian classics "The house is gone." I would like to hope that such an assessment sounded premature.

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  1. apro
    apro 13 August 2020 13: 58
    66
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...
    1. Andr_38
      Andr_38 13 August 2020 13: 58
      -55 qualifying.
      Quote: apro
      The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

      No, the workers only want a fair vote count.
      1. credo
        credo 13 August 2020 14: 24
        87
        Quote: Andr_38
        Quote: apro
        The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

        No, the workers only want a fair vote count.

        In the neighboring country, with the letter "U", this trick has already been performed with a known result - until the number of votes goes to the opposition candidates, the calculations by the opposition and the West will be recognized as invalid and rigged.
        Another thing is that Lukashenka himself created the current situation in the country and does not seem to know how to get out of it.
        From the beginning, before the elections, he accused Russia of destabilizing the situation in the country and bowed to his western neighbors and the island behind a big puddle, and now he blames the Western countries for troubles and gives stupid advice to the unemployed.
        He pulled everyone up with his idiocy both inside the country and abroad - he thought to himself that he was cunning and clever, but it turned out like this.
        Some of the whole world declare that they are exceptional, while others hammer into their heads the idea that they are exceptional, but the result is similar for both of them the same.
        It's time for Lukashenka to descend from heaven to earth, repent to the people for his tyranny, consult with real friends and make a final decision, and not play independence at someone else's expense.
        1. meGrail
          meGrail 13 August 2020 14: 47
          17
          That is, the opposition in power is bad, but the current dictator with a shaken head (even you already understand this) is that good? L - logic!
          1. bar
            bar 13 August 2020 15: 22
            67
            That is, the opposition in power is bad

            The opposition in power is good when it is constructive, when it has at least a plan of action to change the situation in the country if it wins. And all these "colored" oppositions, except for the plans "BOTH !!!" there is nothing for the soul. Then, after "down with", at best there will be chaos and devastation, at worst - there will be cunning people who will come to power with their own "plans." There are a bunch of examples, but these "oppositions" are like goldfish with RAM for 30 seconds. Therefore, they constantly walk on the same rake.
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            2. iConst
              iConst 13 August 2020 15: 43
              40
              Quote: bar
              but these "oppositions" are like goldfish with RAM for 30 seconds

              These "oppositions" are not at all random people. And their memory is all right. Only they don’t need memory - there are already scenarios outlined behind the “hill” in which direction they should act.
              1. Dmitry10SPb
                Dmitry10SPb 13 August 2020 16: 34
                -20 qualifying.
                So also write them a scenario of actions. Life experience to help. True, the result will be the same as with their opposition. Because there is only one point in the script. Conduct new elections with fair vote count.
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 14 August 2020 00: 37
                  +5
                  Apparently, the protesters have finally gone to the cuckoo ... They are protesting neither for the sake of raising wages and pensions, nor for the sake of lowering prices, etc. And for the sake of stupid - recounting (although even before the elections, everyone said one way or another that Luka would win.) Did the Belarusians catch a squirrel or something? fool
                  1. gsev
                    gsev 14 August 2020 01: 15
                    +2
                    [/ quote] Apparently, the cuckoo has finally gone to the protesters ... They are protesting neither for the sake of raising wages and pensions, nor for the sake of lowering prices, etc. And for the sake of stupidly - recount (although even before the elections, everyone said in one way or another that Luka would win.) [Quote]

                    "Margarita Simonyan
                    Aug 12 @ 22:54 pm
                    Actions
                    This is the message we received from one of our stringers in Belarus.

                    Two other stringers of our Ruptly video agency - Sergey Kamenetsky and Alexander Kovalev - have not been in touch for the fourth day.

                    The guys filmed the exit from the polling stations during the voting.

                    At 08:46 in the morning, we received a message with one word: 'Detained.'

                    Where they are and what happened to them - we still do not know.

                    They are not on the lists of those detained by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

                    Another girl, who also works with us as a stringer, was kept in a cell for two days and was recently released. Here's how she described what was happening:

                    “According to the protocol, the place of detention differs from the actual one.

                    There are 6 in the female cell for 37 people, and 50 in the male cell.

                    They sleep in turn.

                    No food, tap water.

                    Everyone is given from 7 to 15 days.

                    Some of the men were beaten. "

                    It looks like there is no place to put Lukashenka's opponents in Belarus. Perhaps, when the results of the vote were announced, Lukashenka was confused with one of his competitors.
                    1. Deck
                      Deck 14 August 2020 18: 26
                      0
                      Unemployed alcoholic sheep with a criminal past, incited by Poland, Ukraine and the Czech Republic, today have found support in the person of workers from most large Belarusian enterprises.
                      And for dad so no one went.
                      Therefore, the ending of this story is already clear.

                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 19: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Deck
                        Unemployed alcoholic sheep with a criminal past, incited by Poland, Ukraine and the Czech Republic, today have found support in the person of workers from most large Belarusian enterprises.
                        And for dad so no one went.
                        Therefore, the ending of this story is already clear.

                        Straight after all, pride is bursting with the 16-strong team of MTZ! All of them are young and healthy at the age of 25-30. Our pseudo-Wagnerians don't dance. And most importantly - all factory workers, if you believe the inscriptions.
                        laughing
                      2. Deck
                        Deck 15 August 2020 10: 48
                        -2
                        Workers must be drunken giants of the 70s?
                      3. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 15 August 2020 11: 10
                        0
                        Weren't you there? This means that there should be one less goner.
                        Just do not smear porridge on the table, that the entire work collective consists of 80% of young men (the remaining 20 are women) at the most fertile age. With such images at the time to write posters calling for a color revolution.
                      4. Deck
                        Deck 15 August 2020 11: 16
                        -3
                        Rudeness is your strongest argument? Speaking in your language, gateways - when it seems. it is necessary to be baptized.
                        If the color revolution helps to swat the cockroach. then it's time to get your sneakers
                      5. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 15 August 2020 11: 20
                        -1
                        I hear from the boor ...
                        Before hitting a cockroach with a slipper, think about who and how will replace it.
                        It is not difficult to hit with a slipper. It is difficult to govern a country.
          2. Deck
            Deck 14 August 2020 18: 57
            -6
            They protest neither for the sake of raising wages and pensions, nor for the sake of lowering prices, etc. And for the sake of stupid - recounting


            You have one yardstick - loot. Honor, freedom, dignity are not about you.
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 18 August 2020 00: 13
              0
              Quote: Deck
              You have one yardstick - loot. Honor, freedom, dignity are not about you.

              Yes - for me honor is on the 2nd place. And on the first - reason and adequacy.
        2. Pavel57
          Pavel57 14 August 2020 11: 47
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry10SPb
          Because there is only one point in the script. Conduct new elections with fair vote count.


          This is not a scenario, but the first step in a multi-move to overthrow the current government and reformat the country to please the Western players.
          1. Dmitry10SPb
            Dmitry10SPb 14 August 2020 15: 02
            +2
            Tell her. This is where opportunities open up for us. For example, one sprouted in the elections. candidate and five pro-Western. And with polit. it's no longer worth contacting a corpse. An empty case.
    2. demo
      demo 13 August 2020 16: 13
      12
      The opposition in power is good when it is constructive, when it has at least a plan of action to change the situation in the country if it wins.

      And what if the authorities equate even a hint of any (including constructive) opposition with treason?
      Then what to do?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 21
        +6
        Quote: demo
        And what if the authorities equate even a hint of any (including constructive) opposition with treason?
        Then what to do?

        As in Belarus request
        Without options
        1. demo
          demo 13 August 2020 16: 31
          +7
          Normally.
          Then at any moment such a development of events can be expected.
          Any person, you or I, always feels an unfair attitude towards himself, a disregard for his interests, relegating him to the level of a cattle yard.
          A normal person cannot like this del situation.
          1. Harry.km
            Harry.km 13 August 2020 17: 05
            0
            Quote: demo
            Normally.

            Of course it's okay! Not a single rally in support of the AHL. No one! Enterprises stop, everywhere ... Now we need to figure out who is the opposition, where is the minority, and who needs to go to Turkey, and who from Lithuania to go home.
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 13 August 2020 18: 56
              +5
              Quote: Harry.km
              Now we need to figure out who is the opposition, where is the minority, and who needs to go to Turkey, and who is home from Lithuania.

              Exactly. Forest brothers come, put things in order. This is familiar.
              These "from Lithuania" and their curators do not need anything other than torn apart the remains of the worker.
              Belarusians with their social network they do not need NAH
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 13 August 2020 19: 37
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                These "from Lithuania" and their curators

                Oh, well enough about the mysterious "curators". Not seriously.
                Curators can collect a thousand or two for a meeting. But the whole country is revolting.
              2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 13 August 2020 19: 52
                +1
                Quote: rzzz
                Oh, well enough about the mysterious "curators". Not seriously.
                Curators can collect a thousand or two for a meeting. But the whole country is revolting.

                Without test tubes, cloned "Dolly sheep" are not born ...
              3. Rzzz
                Rzzz 13 August 2020 20: 09
                0
                Nobody is cloned here. The scale is not the same. Here the process is quite natural.
                Wake up already.
            2. Serg4545
              Serg4545 13 August 2020 20: 27
              12
              Quote: rzzz
              But the whole country is rebelling


              That's all right !?
              Have you ever read an article?
              About 10 thousand people work at Belaz. Several hundred of them went on strike.
              In total, somewhere around 5 percent, as you put it, rebel. The whole country is talking)
              By the way, I hope they get fired. Because you need to show your political position outside of working hours.
            3. Eragon
              Eragon 13 August 2020 23: 13
              0
              Quote: Serg4545
              Quote: rzzz
              But the whole country is rebelling


              That's all right !?
              Have you ever read an article?
              About 10 thousand people work at Belaz. Several hundred of them went on strike.
              In total, somewhere around 5 percent, as you put it, rebel. The whole country is talking)
              By the way, I hope they get fired. Because you need to show your political position outside of working hours.

              Do you even know that there is no strike at any plant and has never happened? At the factories, workers met with the management of enterprises and city administrations, at which their demands were expressed. Release the detainees, openly count the votes. But if the requirements are not met, then the strike will start on Monday.
            4. Serg4545
              Serg4545 14 August 2020 05: 34
              +5
              The more you comment, the clearer it becomes that you haven't read this article. Here is a quote from the article:
              There are reports from Belarus that more and more enterprises are joining the strike.

              And there will be no overthrow of Lukashenka. Because everything is in the hands of Lukashenka himself. Riots (as you put it) a tiny percentage of the population. You can rush with dreams that in the future, everyone will go out into the street. Or let's say a strike.
              But in fact, in a couple of weeks at most, the protesters' fervor will dry up. The violent ones will be imprisoned. So that is all.
              Learn to see reality. Even if you don't like Lukashenka, this is not a reason to think that his power is weak.
          2. Sergey TT
            Sergey TT 14 August 2020 07: 05
            0
            We have read it, but I prefer to observe with my eyes and analyze.
    3. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 13 August 2020 21: 13
      10
      In 91, there was not a single rally in support of the State Emergency Committee and the USSR. Now very, very many are whining for the Union.
      The same is in store for Belarus.
      1. vonWolfenstein
        vonWolfenstein 14 August 2020 12: 01
        0
        Correctly and then the saying "What we fought for, we ran into it" will work
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 14 August 2020 00: 40
    0
    Quote: demo
    The opposition in power is good when it is constructive, when it has at least a plan of action to change the situation in the country if it wins.

    And what if the authorities equate even a hint of any (including constructive) opposition with treason?
    Then what to do?

    You first show there at least a "hint" - not a single adequate was. )
    1. demo
      demo 14 August 2020 06: 31
      +2
      What do you want from me for an analysis of Luke's actions over the past 25 years?
      I will not do this.
      The most resonant events that have occurred over the years are stored in the memory.
      And the statements that Luke made, is making and, I think, what Luke will do, about what HE means for the country, and what the OPPOSITION means for the country.
      The whole chain of events and accompanying steps in his life as president is the achievement of one most important task - to sit in the chair until the last moment and pass on power by inheritance.
      This is my personal feeling.
      I do not insist.
      Maybe someone will see something different in his actions.
      And he will voice it.
      If this convinces me, then I will reconsider my point of view.

      Exactly twenty minutes ago I read that Luka had given the task "to understand why excessive cruelty was shown during the arrest."
      And the events of 10 years ago come to mind.
      After the "silent protests", when standing and silent Belarusians were dragged into police vans and then to court, the EU decided to impose sanctions.
      As a result of such actions, Luka found the last one - the head of the KGB of the Russian Federation.
      And fired him revealingly.
      Indicative for the EU.
      Like a guy "lost the coast", but he, white and fluffy AHL, did not give him such instructions.
      I don’t know about you, but I didn’t believe in this "show whipping".
      Moreover, exactly a month later, this former handy headed the enterprise, which began to supply products to the Republic of Belarus under the name "E2fuel" (this is an additive for fuel, with low indicators of economic effect from the application) and ALL enterprises of the Republic of Belarus with transport MUST buy it.
      Okay.
      Enough for me here to dump all the secrets of Luke.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 20
    +4
    Quote: bar
    The opposition in power is good when it is constructive,

    Like we have? The "mad printer" does not think, its task is to print.
    The same opposition is in Belarus. First they pointed her to the asphalt, and then - Ay?
    1. bar
      bar 14 August 2020 08: 19
      +2
      The opposition in power is good when it is constructive,

      How are we?

      We don't have it either. The last "constructive" was a century ago at Yavlinsky with his program "500 days". But since then they have squabbled within the party and have come to naught. And others have nothing new except "down" and "putinuhodi". And this is sad, although it seems that we do not have such a clean-up of the political field as in Belarus. I have no explanation for this. Perhaps the leaders of the opposition, getting closer to power, begin to care more about personal benefits than about political struggle. And perhaps they are not leaders at all, but simply mercenaries, stupidly working out their grants, each to the best of his enthusiasm. what
  • exalibor
    exalibor 14 August 2020 07: 06
    +3
    Quote: bar
    That is, the opposition in power is bad

    The opposition in power is good when it is constructive, when it has at least a plan of action to change the situation in the country if it wins. And all these "colored" oppositions, except for the plans "BOTH !!!" there is nothing for the soul. Then, after "down with", at best there will be chaos and devastation, at worst - there will be cunning people who will come to power with their own "plans." There are a bunch of examples, but these "oppositions" are like goldfish with RAM for 30 seconds. Therefore, they constantly walk on the same rake.

    there is a plan ... to hold normal elections ... including with those candidates who are now in prison and are not allowed to participate in the elections (there are both pro-Western and pro-Russian candidates, for example, I personally won’t vote for pro-Western ones ... but for I can't tell the rest of the people ... we also have those who want to go to the west ... mainly Grodno and Brest regions, but there are also those who want to go east) ... let people decide what they want ... and not the current government will assign any percentage to itself ... in the same way, you can also decide where in the end people want to go to the west or to the east ... if they want to go west ... well ... I will accept the decision of the majority, I will sell everything what I have and will move to live in Russia, they will decide to live with Russia ... I feel good ... the others, if there is a desire, let them move to Europe or stay to live in their homeland, no one will drive away, but this should be decided by the people themselves, not some kind of guy who has been in power for 26 years and wants to keep filling his pockets ... and without any fascism, what now going on in the country ...
  • Arlen
    Arlen 13 August 2020 15: 49
    43
    Quote: meGrail
    That is, the opposition in power is bad

    If this so-called "opposition" comes to power, it will not be bad, but very bad. In my personal opinion, the point now is not only and not so much about Lukashenko, but about the attempts of world imperialism to put an end to the history of the Slavic world. Most of the Slavic states are under the vassalage of the West. Only Belarus and Russia are independent from the West. Lukashenko will surrender Belarus, and NATO, de facto, will already be near Smolensk ...
    I am not saying that Lukashenka is good. He is bad. But he is better than the pro-Western forces.
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 13 August 2020 16: 44
      -21 qualifying.
      At the moment, NATO is not preventing it from being near Belgorod. Right? But this somehow does not scare me: there are about 30 countries (try to agree with each other), where the majority have zero tolerance for military losses (try to attack). And we are still a nuclear power. Taking this into account, NATO near Smolensk is not dangerous. Absolutely.
      You are good about world imperialism. But we are also an imperialist power. One of many. They scared the imperialists with the imperialists.
      We have long lost the hegemony in the Slavic world. First in 1989, then in 2014. It's okay. Less money will go to non-brothers. Itself is not enough.
    2. Runoway
      Runoway 13 August 2020 16: 45
      +6
      Only Belarus and Russia are independent from the West

      Wow?! Isn't it our elite in London who live and study, born in Miami. And economic geniuses continue to invest in US securities instead of domestic investments. And ordinary people have been flooded / replaced with Azeris so much that even Patriarch Kirill scored a panic that by 2040 there would be no parishioners, only mosques and synagogues
      1. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 00
        12
        Quote: Runoway
        Isn't our elite in London, who lives and learns, born in Miami

        No, not ours. They steal from us and take them to their Landons.
        Quote: Runoway
        Patriarch Kirill scored a panic that by 2040 there would be no parishioners left, only mosques and synagogues

        Judging by the number of churches under construction with parishioners, the Patriarch is doing well ..
        1. Runoway
          Runoway 13 August 2020 17: 30
          +5
          No, not ours. They steal from us and take them to their Landons.

          Ours is ours, born in the USSR now in power, and they will be replaced by children who have been trained in the west, who come to us only for a vacation in Moscow to ride sports cars
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. andreykolesov123
        andreykolesov123 13 August 2020 22: 47
        -5
        Quote: Runoway
        And ordinary people have been flooded / replaced with Azeris so much that even Patriarch Kirill scored a panic that by 2040 there would be no parishioners, only mosques and synagogues

        Azerbaijanis to synagogues? Original.
      4. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 14 August 2020 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: Runoway
        Only Belarus and Russia are independent from the West

        Wow?! Isn't it our elite in London who live and study, born in Miami. And economic geniuses continue to invest in US securities instead of domestic investments. And ordinary people have been flooded / replaced with Azeris so much that even Patriarch Kirill scored a panic that by 2040 there would be no parishioners, only mosques and synagogues

        Well then, all the more there is no reason to worry. I'm wondering why the common people should worry about the events in Honduras? There is nothing more to worry about?
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 13 August 2020 18: 18
      +3
      Quote: Arlen
      If this so-called "opposition" comes to power, it will not be bad, but very bad

      And she will come to power anyway. If Luke does another term, he will come after him. Belarusians want to go "west", they want to live like Poles. You have to pay for everything. BelAZ "west" is definitely not needed. request
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 13 August 2020 21: 12
        +5
        "... Belarusians want to go to the West, they want to live like Poles ...", but how do Poles live? - they work in Germany, where the Germans do not want to work, because of a good, well-fed life, and they bring residents of Ukraine to their work in order to pay less ... The Gdansk shipyard "which gave birth to Solidarity" went bankrupt ...
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 13 August 2020 21: 15
          +2
          Quote: cat Rusich
          "... Belarusians want to go to the West, they want to live like Poles ...", but how do Poles live? - they work in Germany, where the Germans do not want to work, because of a good, well-fed life, and they bring residents of Ukraine to their work in order to pay less ... The Gdansk shipyard "which gave birth to Solidarity" went bankrupt ...

          Are you telling me this ?! You tell this to the Belarusians, but I'm afraid they won't listen to you. request
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 13 August 2020 21: 18
            0
            "Not a hungry stomach" - does not hear the voice of reason ... yes
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 13 August 2020 21: 23
              +3
              Russia got its own after the collapse of the USSR, when many citizens of the USSR wanted to live like in the West, went to rallies, in Moscow at rallies they shouted slogans - "Hands off the Baltic", including the Russian people, then got theirs. Apparently everyone needs to drink their cup to the bottom. Belarus has not yet drunk. request
              1. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 13 August 2020 21: 41
                +3
                "Belarusian fairy tale" ends - "real life on the market begins belay "- the question is who will be" the market director bully "? - for this, the struggle began. The director of the market receives income from the" market " bully "- buyers and sellers in the market only pay, some for the goods, and others for a place in the" market. "
        2. bukhach
          bukhach 13 August 2020 22: 14
          +1
          So, maybe they want to work as Ukrainians all over Europe and no matter who, anyway, they will get more than at home, the more everyone is warmed by the hope that he will not fail and, by the way, luck smiles at some. such aspirations, but this does not cancel them. Do you think we have few applicants?
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 13 August 2020 22: 23
            +1
            The experience gained by your own "fifth point" is the most understandable ... Wise bully studies "someone else's experience", but simply "smart wassat "develops its own, as far as the" fifth point "is enough.
            1. bukhach
              bukhach 13 August 2020 22: 30
              -1
              You are right, that is why there are few wise people and smart people are a dime a dozen. And to hell with them, let them work.
          2. bar
            bar 14 August 2020 08: 30
            +1
            So, maybe they want to work as Ukrainians throughout Europe and no matter who,

            And who is stopping them from doing this now? Even now they go to Poland without any problems, doing their small business on smuggling. They can easily enroll in laborers.
        3. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 14 August 2020 09: 09
          +1
          Quote: cat Rusich
          "... Belarusians want to go to the West, they want to live like Poles ...", but how do Poles live? - they work in Germany, where the Germans do not want to work, because of a good, well-fed life, and they bring residents of Ukraine to their work in order to pay less ... The Gdansk shipyard "which gave birth to Solidarity" went bankrupt ...

          Calculate how many businesses have gone bankrupt and how much labor is imported to pay less
      2. bar
        bar 14 August 2020 08: 25
        +1
        Belarusians want to go "west", they want to live like Poles. You have to pay for everything.

        Want is not harmful. But it would be useful to remember that at the time when the Belarusians were in Poland, they also did not live like Poles, but were their laborers and draft animals. So you have to pay a lot ...
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 14 August 2020 09: 27
          +1
          Quote: bar
          But it would be useful to remember that at the time when the Belarusians were in Poland, they also did not live like Poles, but were their laborers and draft animals. So you have to pay a lot.

          Quite right, and it was like not so long ago, back in the 30s of the last century, but how quickly some things are forgotten. request
    4. Rzzz
      Rzzz 13 August 2020 20: 24
      0
      Quote: Arlen
      If this so-called "opposition" comes to power, it will not be bad, but very bad

      The fact is that if Lukashenka stays, it will be even worse. Including for this "Slavic world" of yours (I really do not really understand what you mean by this concept)
      There is such a term in chess - Zugzwang. Indicates a situation when any move or even the absence of a move with a given piece only leads to a worsening of the situation. Lukashenka is now in a concrete zugzwang.
    5. Alex bergman
      Alex bergman 13 August 2020 23: 40
      0
      To think about it - you need a "brain". Most have the 5th point! The cockroach is not the best option. But he is better than people like Ze. In order to manage a state, one must have at least basic knowledge about this state and its management system. I doubt the capabilities of Tikhanovskaya and others like them. Change should be prepared by acting or security officials. Well, the cook cannot rule the presidential apparatus and the government! Well, or "drive"! In 404 they have already taxied. Today our leadership should make more than every effort to avoid the appearance of v404.02 on our border. For later on we will have to drive away the Naglo-Saxons for a long time. Anaconda's rings are tightening. I hope that there is a plan B. Otherwise, I somehow worry about my children.
  • bayard
    bayard 13 August 2020 17: 07
    15
    Insane on the throne is bad.
    Who can argue?
    But the mess like in Ukraine is MUCH worse.
    Here, to sort things out with the mind - the UM is needed.
    But in our times there is a shortage of THIS.
    And on a PLANETARY scale.
    request
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 13 August 2020 17: 33
    14
    A crowd of puppets on leashes with only one task to overthrow the AHL is not opposition, it is agents of influence. As you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The fact that the old one has worn out the real opposition to the root and himself, with his own hand, has multiplied his gravediggers. Right now, it is still not known how it will end, the scales are swinging in all directions, but the fact is that if he is blessed, in the next 2-3 years Belarus will become the poorest country in Europe.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 August 2020 18: 39
    +2
    What kind of "opposition" is this? A gang of corrupt mediocrity and fooled people who act on emotions, because they are not capable of analysis.
  • Levius
    Levius 13 August 2020 18: 54
    +3
    There is a finger and there is an ass and there is no need to be confused. Opposition is a bad battering ram whose task is to destroy. And there are people with their own position, opinion and development program. Is that what these app reviews offer? To destroy everything to the ground? Oh well. This is the Maidan. Sorry for them. But they chose their own path
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 13 August 2020 21: 26
    -2
    Quote: meGrail
    That is, the opposition in power is bad, but the current dictator has moved his head

    The "dictator" suited everyone, while the Russian Federation was giving loans to the Republic of Belarus (interest-free, gratuitous, irrevocable), now that the Russian Federation began to recognize the "Union State with the Republic of Belarus" as a venture deal ... Old Man ceased to suit the "freedom-loving" Belarusian people ...
    By the way, could you explain what the Belarusian "opposition" is and who is it? apparently she was hiding in the woods for 1/4 century ...
    The workers of BelAZ are doing the right thing, the new "their" president will provide their plant with orders to the EU and the USA and "goodbye unwashed Russia" ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 August 2020 21: 40
      +2
      Quote: Lara Croft
      The workers of BelAZ are doing the right thing, the new "their" president will provide their plant with orders to the EU and the USA and "goodbye to unwashed Russia."

      Prodamping Ukrainian pickers of Polish strawberries will be difficult. But if the whole friendly team goes straight to the fields, then you can do it ...
      laughing
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 14 August 2020 09: 35
      0
      Quote: Lara Croft
      The workers of BelAZ are doing the right thing, the new "their" president will provide their plant with orders to the EU and the USA and "goodbye unwashed Russia" ...

      Well, they made fun of it, even a schoolchild understands that no one except the Russian Federation needs BelAZ, even the Germans from the FRG thundered more or less competitive production in the GDR, immediately after the unification of the country. And then BelAZ, it is not even competitive.
      [media = https: //www.popmech.ru/vehicles/282782-10-karernykh-samosvalov-pochti-vse-proizvoditeli-mira/]
    3. dali
      dali 14 August 2020 10: 05
      +1
      Quote: Lara Croft
      The workers of BelAZ are doing the right thing, the new "their" president will provide their plant with orders to the EU and the USA and "goodbye unwashed Russia" ...
      laughing laughing laughing
      Is this a joke or something ?! belay
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 13 August 2020 22: 32
    0
    Quote: meGrail
    That is, the opposition in power is bad, but the current dictator with a shaken head (even you already understand this) is that good? L - logic!

    What is good for Russia is good! We are for RUSSIA. Why should we worry about our American "friends"? am
  • DenZ
    DenZ 14 August 2020 16: 42
    0
    Quote: meGrail
    That is, the opposition in power is bad, but the current dictator with a shaken head (even you already understand this) is that good? L - logic!

    And where is the guarantee that the opposition is in power - is that good? (especially if it is without a program and with the support of those who do not care about Belarus) L-logic?
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 13 August 2020 15: 36
    13
    The workers, who have already gathered on the territory of the plant in a "strike" format of several hundred people, are shouting the slogan "Go away!" Against this background, demands are being made "to hold fair elections in the country."

    It is clear that the Belarusian demagogues-strikers are not talking about any "fair" elections. In fact, we are talking about a pro-Western attempt at a STATE DATE in the Republic of Belarus.

    Unwittingly, these strikes are associated with "perestroika" strikes of miners and the subsequent collapse of the USSR by Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Namely.

    Everyone remembered the role of miners in the conflict between Gorbachev and Yeltsin when the first massive strikes of miners rocked the Soviet Union in 1989.
    The main - hidden - reason for the strikes of miners unfolding in the country was that the liberal "reformers" in the person of the same Yeltsin were not even going to hand over such an economic asset of the country as the coal industry into the hands of Rutskoy and Khasbulatov in the future. And they used the strikes of the miners in their pro-Western colonial policy.
    И a year later, the USSR began implementing the program for restructuring the coal industry proposed by the World Bank. She meant closure of all "unprofitable" mines.

    With the same "success" striking BelAZ can on their posters instead of "Boris! We are with you!" write - "Tikhanovskaya! We are with you!"

    1. Do not care
      Do not care 13 August 2020 15: 42
      +1
      With the same "success" striking BelAZ can write on their posters "Tikhanovskaya! We are with you!"



      Without words:

      1. vindigo
        vindigo 15 August 2020 12: 18
        0
        Young people are hiding behind their grandfather. Statement or provocation.
    2. Arlen
      Arlen 13 August 2020 15: 54
      27
      From the statement of the ROO SKPS:
      ... the world financial oligarchy, which began the so-called. hybrid aggression with the help of its "fifth column", trying to rouse the working class to strike, disguised as democrats and fighters for human rights.
      ... attempts to rouse the working class and labor collectives to strike. For this purpose, groups of provocateurs crowd at the checkpoints of some factories.
      However, it is not profitable for workers to strike for the interests of foreign oligarchs. Let us recall how Russian miners helped comprador "democrat" Yeltsin in Russia, and he thanked them ... by closing the mines.
      The “democrats” who attacked Belarus have the same roots, and therefore the working class has no reason to listen to their mellifluous speeches.
      Foreign oligarchs and the governments of their states stubbornly continue to carry out their exposed plan to destabilize the socio-political situation in the Republic of Belarus, seeking to remove from the post President A.G. Lukashenko, whom they do not like ...
      In accordance with the points of this insidious plan, which is the beginning of external hybrid aggression with the help of the local "fifth column", the presidential candidate S. Tikhanovskaya has already falsely declared the elections rigged in order to open the way for the political chaos of the Belarusian Maidan with all the same tragic consequences as the fraternal people of Ukraine. And the presidents of Poland and Lithuania, following the European Union and the US Senate, called on the elected President, A.G. Lukashenko, who allegedly violates human rights, to actually capitulate in front of the “fifth column”, which was defeated in the elections by the Belarusian people, to break with Russia and bring the republic to the European Union ...

      https://rkrp-rpk.ru/2020/08/12/призыв-к-рабочим-белорусских-предпри/
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 37
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: Tatiana
      In fact, we are talking about a pro-Western attempt at a STATE DATE in the Republic of Belarus.

      Stop talking nonsense.
      1. dali
        dali 14 August 2020 10: 12
        0
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Stop talking nonsense.

        Now, if these oppositionists overthrow Lukashenka and take power into their hands, then we'll see how the people will start talking. And in Russia, so far, Lukashenka is tolerated as an inevitable temporary (if, of course, they work correctly) evil ...
    4. Kisa
      Kisa 13 August 2020 19: 01
      -2
      Tatyana yesterday you proved that there are no strikes, it's a fake. today you are saying that they are not real. how far are you willing to go in justifying a cockroach ????
      they fiercely minus me here yesterday. I was even banned for the night - I think, okay, at least I'll do my housework - so in the morning they unbanned again and again into battle. and many of the violent here today were not counted.
      what makes you different when you support the cockroach so hotly. you are the same partners as he is.
      dear edition VO why did you unblock me. ban me, please, forever as a notorious Banderist State Department official. I DO NOT WANT
    5. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 13 August 2020 22: 39
      +3
      A familiar picture. And after a short time, the miners went on strike, demanding payment of wages and knocking helmets on the bridge in Moscow. laughing
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 13 August 2020 15: 42
    +8
    credo
    In the neighboring country, with the letter "U", this trick has already been carried out with a known result - until the number of votes goes to the opposition candidates, the calculations by the opposition and
    In the neighboring country, there were no strikes at the factories with the letter "U" when the Maidan was. Do not confuse warm with myagkim. And there will be enough of experts to squirm. The level of "kitchen" sheptarei. How do you not read so much the experts on the Maidan. And how to deal with them. And the wise old men posobiralis the intrigues of the State Department.
    Everyone has read the article carefully !? This is a workers' strike at the factory !!! An operating enterprise. Where thousands of people work. Are they enemies to their plant? No, they are not enemies. They are enemies to their income. No, they are not enemies. At least turn on the gossip at least once in your life and think with your feeble mind what it all means. If the workers go on strike against came out as a political slogan, not an economic one, but a political one! So think if there is something. And how it will all end. And then we will figure out how and why it happened. And who is to blame for this. But in other articles and topics.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 24
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      If the workers went on strike on a political slogan, not an economic one, but a political one!

      Exactly! There is no need to look for a cat where it is not.
      Trigger - Lukashenka with his terror
      1. dali
        dali 14 August 2020 10: 14
        -1
        Quote: Silvestr
        Exactly! There is no need to look for a cat where it is not.
        Trigger - Lukashenka with his terror

        Lukashenka is just one of the reasons, weighty, but not the main ...
    2. Evgeny Ivanov_5
      Evgeny Ivanov_5 13 August 2020 16: 34
      12
      For God's sake. I am sure that after Lukashenka's departure and the arrival of such an experienced politician as Tikhanovskaya and her assistants, a golden rain will fall on the workers of the plant and they will live like workers on a Ford and receive similar salaries !! I believe in such tales
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 13 August 2020 17: 09
        0
        Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
        For God's sake. I am sure that after Lukashenka's departure and the arrival of such an experienced politician as Tikhanovskaya and her assistants, a golden rain will fall on the workers of the plant and they will live like workers on a Ford and receive similar salaries !! I believe in such tales

        You are like that blonde.
        For God's sake
        Yes, please. Doesn't it seem strange to you that BelAZ employees generally don't remember Tikhonovskaya or who she is there !? No, isn't it strange? So why the hell are they going on strike then? If they are not specifically for Tikhonovskaya?
        BelAZ chants "go away!"

        And what does Tikhonovskaya have to do with Tikhonovskaya now? There is no Tikhonovskaya. Everyone saw her frightened. Yes, no one took her seriously at first. And she herself did not perceive herself as a president. Maybe the whole thing is in the "collective farm plow." It would be at rest. But it has grown so tightly to the mare. That either the mare will die. Or the plow from the mare from the rust will fall off by itself. The art of a real politician does not mean to bring his country to the brink. To shoot citizens to the left and to the right. A real politician must to be able to make it so that the very possibility of humiliating its citizens is not. The art of politics is to remain in the memory of a public defender and a daddy if you want. Daddy "died a few days ago" Lukashenka remained. Amen. It was his choice. And there is no need to drag the Kremlin here. whole and complete choice ..
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 13 August 2020 21: 37
          0
          Quote: Observer2014
          And what does Tikhonovskaya have to do with it now? There is no Tikhonovskaya. Everyone saw her frightened. But initially no one took her seriously. And she did not perceive herself as a president.

          You contradict yourself! Well, and why did you then decide that Tikhanovskaya allegedly really won the elections against Lukashenka? and that because of this, the elections were allegedly dishonest? Who is manipulating you and why? Who has a stone in his bosom in Belarus?
          Quote: Observer2014
          Everyone has read the article carefully !? This is a workers' strike at the factory !!! An operating enterprise. Where thousands of people work. Are they enemies to their plant? No, not enemies. Are they enemies to their income? No, not enemies. Yes, even turn on the kumekolku - at least once in your life and with your feeble mind figure out what all this means.
          If the workers went on strike on a political slogan! Not economic. Namely, under a political (slogan)!

          Let me remind you if you lack a political and economic education.
          Politics is a concentrated expression of the economic interests of an individual, a group of people, society, people, nation, professional and religious corporations.
          So look, who benefits from all this mess in Belarus ?! Certainly not to the common people and not to the Belarusians themselves!
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 14 August 2020 00: 47
            -5
            You are wearing Tanechka. Enjoy. Who are you for at all? Congratulations. Watch everything to the end. Do you want to be smart anymore? I think you can't even.
            1. dali
              dali 14 August 2020 10: 21
              0
              Quote: Observer2014
              Do you want to be smart anymore? I think you can't even.

              And how does this contradict these words? belay :

              Quote: Tatiana
              Let me remind you if you lack a political and economic education.
              Politics is a concentrated expression of the economic interests of an individual, a group of people, society, people, nation, professional and religious corporations.
              So look, who benefits from all this mess in Belarus ?! Certainly not to the common people and not to the Belarusians themselves!
      2. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 40
        -6
        Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
        For God's sake. I am sure that after Lukashenka's departure and the arrival of such an experienced politician as Tikhanovskaya and her assistants, a golden rain will fall on the workers of the plant and they will live like workers on a Ford and receive similar salaries !! I believe in such tales

        The gods do not burn pots.
        Turn on your head already, the workers left not for economic reasons, but for political ones, ale, they don't need your golden shower
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 13 August 2020 17: 51
          0
          The reasons may be different (these are generally empty sounds), the result is usually the same ..
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 55
            -3
            Quote: vitvit123
            The reasons may be different (these are generally empty sounds), the result is usually the same ..

            What result is usually the same if the workers did not come out because of the wage tales? )
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 13 August 2020 17: 59
              +4
              It doesn't matter what slogans were, there are usually two results.
              The first is that nothing will change for people, even if they achieve their goal,
              Second, everything will only get worse ..
              I really do not like Luka and his lukanomics, but the result will be one of two things ..
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 18
                0
                Quote: vitvit123
                It doesn't matter what slogans were, there are usually two results.
                The first is that nothing will change for people, even if they achieve their goal,
                Second, everything will only get worse ..
                I really do not like Luka and his lukanomics, but the result will be one of two things ..

                No, it may still be that it will get better, or nothing will change at the plant, but in general it will get better. But in fact, it does not matter at all how it will become, the people want fair elections and this is their right
                1. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 13 August 2020 18: 22
                  +3
                  Why will it get better? The territory has absolutely nothing?
                2. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 30
                  -4
                  Quote: vitvit123
                  Why will it get better? The territory has absolutely nothing?

                  But what about the potato?
                3. Fmax
                  Fmax 13 August 2020 21: 55
                  +2
                  and who will need it?
                4. dali
                  dali 14 August 2020 10: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  But what about the potato?

                  Are you kidding or making fun of Belarusians
                5. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 14 August 2020 14: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Dali
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  But what about the potato?

                  Are you kidding or making fun of Belarusians

                  I sincerely love Belarusians!
  • Ramon Merkader
    Ramon Merkader 13 August 2020 20: 24
    +4
    Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
    For God's sake. I am sure that after Lukashenka's departure and the arrival of such an experienced politician as Tikhanovskaya and her assistants, a golden rain will fall on the workers of the plant.

    I was crying under the table - the assistants and Tikhanovskaya shed the promised golden rain on the workers.
    Monsieur knows a lot about perversions
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 13 August 2020 17: 49
    0
    How do you know that you have something to think about and your gossip (as you put it) works?
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 18: 43
    -2
    Do you remember "Solidarity" in Poland? There, too, the anti-Soviet coup was supported by the type of workers who were paid by the emissaries of the State Department for the strike more than they received for their work. And how did it end up?
    So it is here. These "workers", by their opposition to Father, have discharged themselves from the workers, they are now the social servants of the United States.
    And in general, the time of political strikes has passed, we are not living in the twentieth century.
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 13 August 2020 22: 38
    0
    Quote: Observer2014
    In the neighboring country with the letter "U", when there was Maidan, there were no strikes at the factories.

    And why would there have been strikes in Ukraine during the Maidan, if the Ukrainian industry was already a ruin ?! The factories stood, and the Ukrainians were migrant workers in the fields and in the toilets of the Poles.
    Name at least one Ukrainian plant operating in 2013 - on the eve of the Maidan - with the number of employees of 20 thousand people, as it is now at BelAZ in the Republic of Belarus!
    And this is a personal merit of the nationally oriented father Lukashenko! He did not pursue lace panties in the West!
    Quote: Observer2014
    Do not confuse warm with soft.
    Just do not confuse warm with soft yourself.
  • Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 13 August 2020 18: 13
    -4
    Russia also behaved and is behaving in an incomprehensible way! What have we forgotten theirs Tsepkalo? !! And the performances of Zhirinovsky and Zatulin ?! And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Of course, it is convenient to be in the position of an outside observer: "Everything is in shit around, and I'm the only one so smart!" And it would be nice for us, Muscovites, to get together and go out in front of the Belarusian embassy in support of Lukashenka. There is no better choice for Russia! So you can get a second Ukraine close by. Only organizing is weak for me. I hope that there will be "right" energetic people and will organize.
  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 14 August 2020 07: 57
    0
    Quote: credo
    It's time for Lukashenka to descend from heaven to earth, repent to the people for his tyranny, consult with real friends and make a final decision, and not play independence at someone else's expense.

    Take off the pink glasses.
    This can only be followed by his resignation and transfer to his successor, otherwise he will finally turn into a political corpse. I don't think he will do that.
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 14: 25
    +8
    well, empty for lukasha will be 50 and not 80 will this suit you?
    1. Andr_38
      Andr_38 13 August 2020 14: 38
      -3
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      well, empty for lukasha will be 50 and not 80 will this suit you?

      Don't ask me, but the Belarusians themselves. And where are those 50-80 percent of those who allegedly voted for Lukashenka, show them why they are not on the streets?
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 14: 47
        +9
        99% of people work or retirees, they have no time to go to rallies
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 03
          11
          Well, along the way, they found time on Belaz.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 15: 10
            +6
            already said that it was the workers who went out at lunchtime
          2. K-612-O
            K-612-O 13 August 2020 15: 19
            19
            Out of 10 thousand, God forbid, there were 2 hundreds, this is somehow not representative, at MAZ there are 60 bangs in general on video, and at MAZ there are 15 thousand employees.
            So they are trying to shake the situation in Belarus both from outside and from within. It is not excluded that the trade union boss is also smeared, in whose sanatorium our guys were screwed.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 43
              0
              Out of 10 thousand, God forbid, hundreds of 2,

              I "strictly by eye" in the video see at least a thousand people.
              1. dali
                dali 14 August 2020 10: 36
                0
                Quote: alexmach
                I "strictly by eye" in the video see at least a thousand people.

                As it is not at all convincing ...
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 14 August 2020 13: 21
                  0
                  Well .. I'm very sorry, but for me my own eyes are a much more convincing argument than your "not convincing" and these nonsense:
                  Out of 10 thousand, God forbid, hundreds of 2,
                  1. dali
                    dali 14 August 2020 14: 49
                    -1
                    Have you tried to wash? belay laughing
          3. bar
            bar 13 August 2020 15: 28
            +9
            Well, along the way, they found time on Belaz.

            Along the way, if the process drags on, this candle factory will close, and they will have even more time.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 44
              +3
              Unfortunately, it is difficult to predict the consequences of what happens.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 13 August 2020 21: 39
                +4
                Quote: alexmach
                Unfortunately, it is difficult to predict the consequences of what happens.

                Why? "YUZHMASH" and "ANTONOV" have already said everything for a long time ...
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 14 August 2020 00: 12
                  +1
                  Because the world is too complex to think exclusively in cliches, especially about social phenomena.
              2. dali
                dali 14 August 2020 10: 38
                +1
                Quote: alexmach
                Unfortunately, it is difficult to predict the consequences of what happens.

                Well, the consequences with Belaz, in the event of the arrival of a Western-oriented opposition, are quite predictable - bankrupt, bankrupt and bankrupt again !!!
        2. UserGun
          UserGun 13 August 2020 15: 16
          -6
          So all the meetings in the evening ...
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 15: 18
            +6
            in the evening, not rallies, but robbery and hooliganism
            1. UserGun
              UserGun 13 August 2020 15: 22
              -3
              Yes, they don't seem to rob anyone, but the cops themselves are hooligans, yes. Some cops take off their uniforms even after such hooliganism. Something doesn't fit in any way with your speeches. But what is much more interesting is that the workers are on strike. Well, this is neither "hooliganism" nor robbery)))) Under any sauce of obscurantism.
              1. Arlen
                Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 03
                24
                Quote: UserGun
                cops hooligan

                Law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Belarus are putting things in order on the streets of their state. I don't think you would like a repetition of the Ukrainian scenario, Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk, Mariupol, and on the territory of Belarus.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 14 August 2020 00: 13
                  +2
                  AND? Is this a reason to beat up the protesters?
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 14 August 2020 07: 39
                    +2
                    Quote: alexmach
                    AND? Is this a reason to beat up the protesters?

                    Well, in Ukraine now the right to hold a meeting and beat others belongs only to nationalists, everyone who disagrees with Kiev is an "agent of the Kremlin" and "separatist" ...
                    It is strange that the liberoid media do not write about the "beating of children" to complete the "picture of what is happening" ....
              2. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 13 August 2020 16: 10
                10
                Quote: UserGun
                Yes, they don't seem to rob anyone, but the cops themselves are hooligans, yes.

                I wonder who then beats the security officials?:
                "...." Riots in the country have lost their mass character, however, the level of aggression towards law enforcement officers remains high. In total, as a result of unlawful actions of citizens on August 9-13, 103 law enforcement officers were injured, of whom 28 were hospitalized, "the ministry's press service said in the Telegram channel ..."
                https://ria.ru/20200813/1575727477.html
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun 13 August 2020 16: 27
                  -7
                  I will duplicate it, because it is useless to talk. I'll just leave it here.

                  "The Belarusian security forces began to throw uniforms into garbage cans en masse, explaining that they are ashamed of the actions of their colleagues and the authorities during the dispersal of rallies. "

                  https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/13/s_narodom/
                  1. Vladimir B.
                    Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 06
                    10
                    You forgot to add a word - the former... And not the fact that they served.
                  2. Bad_gr
                    Bad_gr 13 August 2020 20: 23
                    +6
                    Quote: Vladimir B.
                    And not the fact that they served.

                    And it's not a fact that this is not a production.
          2. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 43
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            in the evening, not rallies, but robbery and hooliganism

            I completely agree with you, and the authorities will have to answer for these crimes
      2. Region68
        Region68 13 August 2020 15: 21
        -4
        Ha-ha-ha .. Well, here they are working at BELAZ ..
      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 August 2020 15: 41
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        99% of people work or retirees, they have no time to go to rallies

        Well, this is a political-core excuse of the official Bel media. The Fuhrer himself said that hired workers or the unemployed go out to protests. You were not far from him in your pay)))
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 26
        +2
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        99% of people work

        It was the workers who went on strike. Not only BelAZ is on strike! - About a dozen factories
        1. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 09
          14
          Quote: Silvestr
          The workers went on strike

          300 people out of 10000 employed? Good strike.
          Quote: Silvestr
          About a dozen factories

          How many workers went on strike in these factories?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 13 August 2020 17: 25
            -2
            Quote: Vladimir B.
            How many workers went on strike in these factories?

            No matter how hard it goes, the production chain gets up
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 13 August 2020 19: 27
              -1
              Quote: Silvestr
              No matter how hard it goes, the production chain gets up

              And what makes you happy?
              The fact that Russia will not receive any components on time?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 13 August 2020 19: 29
                +1
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                And what makes you happy?

                Please indicate where this is reflected.
                1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                  DymOk_v_dYmke 13 August 2020 19: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Please indicate where this is reflected.

                  It seems to me that from your dialogue with Vladimir B. this follows unambiguously.
                  Otherwise, you would agree with him that 3% is still not a factory strike and the remaining 97% will find ways to replace and "educate" the protesters.
                2. New Year day
                  New Year day 13 August 2020 21: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  from your dialogue

                  ... It follows that I state the fact of the existence of strikes for political demands.
                  Belshina, MAZ, Minsk trolleybus and many others are on strike. To deny it is foolish. How will these strikes affect Russia?
                  I believe that the Belarusians are now solving their problem and they don't care about our problems.
                  Just like the opinion of the Russian fans.
                3. DymOk_v_dYmke
                  DymOk_v_dYmke 14 August 2020 07: 04
                  -2
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I state the fact that there are strikes for political demands.
                  Belshina, MAZ, Minsk trolleybus and many others are on strike.

                  It seems to me that you are passing off "Wishlist" as reality.
                  A lot of sources talk about demands for negotiations and intentions, but not about strikes.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 41
    -3
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    99% of people work or retirees, they have no time to go to rallies

    Well, the workers left, what else is needed?) Or these workers do not need to work, only those who are for Lukashenka need to work))
  • demo
    demo 13 August 2020 19: 40
    0
    All the controversy about whether the protesters and strikers know what and who is running them or do not know is not worth a dime.
    Cause?
    There are two of them.
    Luke's statements.
    The first statement is before the elections.
    “We have a cleaning service. There is nothing to take people away from an important matter. "
    Second after.
    The people who voted for him do not take to the streets because they are pensioners. And it's hard for them.

    In any country, pensioners make up 25-30%.
    Add to this the civil servants - 1%.
    From bounty - we will add 10% more.
    Total: Luka's electorate - 41%.
    This is in the most optimistic scenario.
    In reality, you can talk about 10% for the bow.

    When such processes are going on as we see on the streets of Minsk, then there is no time for politeses.
    We need to organize our electorate and take them to the streets.
    And even though he is old, disabled, weak and busy, this does not matter here. Even on stretchers and ambulances.

    I remember my childhood when I was a tiny kid.
    And I remember how an eternal dispute arose between my boys - who has more pussy.
    Only the real presentation of the "argument" removed all the questions.

    So it is here.
    And to whom should it be presented?
    Today there was information that the US and the EU are considering the option of introducing sanctions against Belarus and those involved in the conduct of such elections.
    The ghouls figured it would cost $ 40 billion.
    Where to get money for your people and your power?
    In Russia.
    And then, at the most inopportune "Wagnerovtsev" (whether it was wrong, this name) grabbed.
    And Russia and Putin for one hayal, for an adult.
    And he made statements, there will be enough talkers for a platoon.
    And what do you tell Luca to do?

    Only withdraw all those who can be presented to "public opinion".
    And then they are not!
  • Letun
    Letun 13 August 2020 14: 59
    32
    Quote: Andr_38
    And where are those 50-80 percent of those who allegedly voted for Lukashenka, show them why they are not on the streets?

    The situation in Ukraine shows that 10% of an active-aggressive minority, with skillful leadership and funding, is enough to put cancer in even such a large country as Ukraine.
    If these lovers of freedom and democracy, like in Ukraine, come to power, the first thing they will do is to infringe on the rights and freedoms of those who disagree with their worldview.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 04
      -2
      The situation in Ukraine shows that 10% of the active-aggressive minority

      And there was no 10%. Yes, there are not many active-aggressive ones, but the general support was much broader.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 13 August 2020 15: 24
        17
        Uh-huh, 100-150 thousand in the peak on the Maidan, out of 45 million and several thousand in Galicia, who stormed the regional administration, this is not 1% at all, the bulk did not care, except for Crimea, Odessa and Donbass, you know the results.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 51
          -5
          Yeah, 100-150 thousand at the peak on the Maidan, out of 45 million and several thousand in Galicia, who stormed the regional administration, this is not 1% at all, the bulk did not care

          It is not true. At the demonstrations there were as many as there was, but there was also "tacit support" of the protesters in the society, in the same Galychino, for example, it was close to 100%.
      2. bar
        bar 13 August 2020 15: 30
        +6
        How much broader? Are there any numbers? And the breadth of this support has not yet narrowed?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 55
          0
          Of course, there are no numbers. Figures come only after the vote, and honestly counted. But this was neither 5% nor 10%. Subjectively 50 to 50. It was a real split in society.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 26
        +2
        Quote: alexmach
        overall support was much broader.

        And AntiMaidan was not request
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 16: 57
          -1
          Was, moreover, noticeably less in number.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 13 August 2020 17: 27
            -3
            Quote: alexmach
            Was, moreover, noticeably less in number.

            And quickly faded
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 13 August 2020 15: 58
      +3
      Quote: Letun
      The situation in Ukraine shows that 10% of an active-aggressive minority, with skillful leadership and funding, is enough to put cancer in even such a large country as Ukraine.
      The situation in Petrograd put the whole world in cancer.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 28
        +5
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        The situation in Petrograd put the whole world in cancer.

        And the CPSU (b) at that time was several thousand in number for the entire empire
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 16: 58
          +1
          And the CPSU (b) at that time was several thousand in number for the entire empire

          It would seem that only what has the VKP (b)
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 13 August 2020 17: 26
            0
            Quote: alexmach
            It would seem that only what has the VKP (b)

            While several thousand raised millions and broke the Empire
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 13 August 2020 19: 21
              +5
              This is very far from the truth. Millions have been seething for a long time. Long before the CPSU (b)
            2. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 14 August 2020 08: 53
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              While several thousand raised millions and broke the Empire

              VKP (b) - All-Union communist party (bolsheviks) - appeared in 1925
        2. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 18: 51
          -1
          Quote: Silvestr
          And the CPSU (b) at that time was several thousand in number for the entire empire

          What is the CPSU (b) in 1917? The CPSU (b) is a Stalinist party, a party of statesmen.
          There was the RSDLP (b) - a bunch of Jews and half-educated students who, with the money of the German General Staff, destroyed the Russian Empire, which was then restored by Stalin and the All-Union Communist Party (Bolshevik).
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 13 August 2020 18: 55
            0
            So that this is an empire, if ...
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            ..a bunch of Jews and half-educated students ..

            Was it destroyed?
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 19: 00
              -1
              I'm a troll.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 13 August 2020 18: 55
            +2
            So that this is an empire, if ...
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            ..a bunch of Jews and half-educated students ..

            Was it destroyed?
          3. gsev
            gsev 14 August 2020 01: 32
            -1
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            a bunch of Jews and half-educated students who destroyed the Russian Empire with the money of the German General Staff,

            I recommend paying attention to the writer Reuben Fraerman. In his youth, he headed the regional party organization and as the commissar of the partisan detachment defeated the Japanese forces in the Nikolaevsk region on the Amur River and cleared Yakutia of the gangs of the Japanese protege Pepelyaev. In 1941, he went to the Red Army as a private and fought honestly until he was seriously wounded. They were like that. Why do you call them destroyers? It was the Socialist-Revolutionary Chernov, with the emissary of Pilsudski, at the beginning of 1914, discussed plans for the demarcation of Russia from Poland. The Bolsheviks had to fight with both of these characters.
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 46
      0
      Quote: Letun
      The situation in Ukraine shows that 10% of an active-aggressive minority, with skillful leadership and funding, is enough to put cancer in even such a large country as Ukraine.

      Much less, remember the storming of the winter.
      Quote: Letun
      If these lovers of freedom and democracy, like in Ukraine, come to power, the first thing they will do is to infringe on the rights and freedoms of those who disagree with their worldview.

      Well yes, it’s always and everywhere
  • Graz
    Graz 13 August 2020 16: 00
    -1
    normal people are busy with their own business, most of those who have nothing to do go to rallies, remember this
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 13 August 2020 17: 03
      -2
      the majority of those who have nothing to do go to rallies remember this

      Don't lie. Those who find it problematic to feed and dress their children, who do not see prospects for themselves and their children, go there, who go to rallies.
      1. Graz
        Graz 13 August 2020 17: 18
        +6
        you write nonsense, only a narrow-minded person thinks that something can change at times with the election of another leader if the basis in the country remains the same, the situation can change only to a minus, not a plus, nowhere in the world there are pluses anywhere in the world. I have not begun to live in recent years, the general level is declining for everyone, so anyone who shouts about lace panties like in Ukraine and is waiting for salaries of 4000 euros is either a complete idiot with a low level of intelligence, or a paid provocateur, and these should be immediately withdrawn to the nearest wall and a bullet in the forehead without sentimentality
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 13 August 2020 17: 26
          +2
          One stupid girl on the street blurted out about lace panties and for seven years now a lot of people have been enthusiastically discussing that there is nothing more to discuss?
          1. dali
            dali 14 August 2020 10: 52
            0
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            One stupid girl on the street blurted out about lace panties and for seven years now a lot of people have been enthusiastically discussing that there is nothing more to discuss?

            She may be stupid, but only because stupid, not hiding, concentrated, in a somewhat idiotic form, expressed the wishes of many non-stale lads and girls.
        2. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 13 August 2020 22: 46
          +1
          Those who crave European salaries forgets that along with the salaries, the corresponding prices and taxes will come.
      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 18: 54
        +2
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Don't lie. Those who find it problematic to feed and dress their children, who do not see prospects for themselves and their children, go there, who go to rallies.

        Those who find it difficult to feed their children are looking for where to make money. Unless, of course, they have problems not because they are idlers who can only ride at rallies.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 13 August 2020 21: 14
          +4
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Unless, of course, they have problems not because they are idlers.

          Yes, there is such a category of organisms that, being galimic consumers, they themselves are nothing worthwhile
          (unless, except for children) in life they did not, but at the same time they believe that everyone is obliged to them, and the ball should revolve exclusively around them.
      3. Doliva63
        Doliva63 13 August 2020 19: 05
        +2
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        the majority of those who have nothing to do go to rallies remember this

        Don't lie. Those who find it problematic to feed and dress their children, who do not see prospects for themselves and their children, go there, who go to rallies.

        For 100 bucks and I would go. laughing
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: Graz
      normal people are busy with their own business, most of those who have nothing to do go to rallies, remember this

      At the factory, apparently only lazy and abnormal. And those who do not give a shit about the future of their country go to rallies, remember this, and who have eggs in their pants, not pingpong balls
      1. Graz
        Graz 13 August 2020 18: 44
        +3
        "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate villains are using its fruits" - British writer, historian, philosopher Thomas Carlyle.
        ________________________
        how long you can step on the same rake. EVERYTHING will be as always, you will not be an exception 100%
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 13 August 2020 20: 18
          +1
          Quote: Graz
          "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate villains are using its fruits" - British writer, historian, philosopher Thomas Carlyle.
          ________________________
          how long you can step on the same rake. EVERYTHING will be as always, you will not be an exception 100%

          Apparently, the British politician is itching just below his back from the fact that with this rake colonial America hung on Britain and formed the United States, in the process of the revolution. Well, I will not give examples of France, the USSR
  • Arlen
    Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 05
    20
    Among the opposition, on their illegal actions, the majority of the population of Belarus is also not observed.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 48
      +2
      Quote: Arlen
      Among the opposition, on their illegal actions, the majority of the population of Belarus is also not observed.

      There is never a majority of the population at any rallies anywhere in the world.
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 18: 58
        -1
        Quote: Vol4ara
        There is never a majority of the population at any rallies anywhere in the world.

        There may be representatives of this majority - like the Uralvagonzavod delegation on Poklonnaya Gora. If the swamp scum had not calmed down, then this very majority would have arrived in the form of real workers and would have solved the problem in its own way, not at all as gently as the riot police did.
        Google "mineriada" - how the Romanian miners soothed the kraakl there.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 13 August 2020 20: 40
          -1
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Quote: Vol4ara
          There is never a majority of the population at any rallies anywhere in the world.

          There may be representatives of this majority - like the Uralvagonzavod delegation on Poklonnaya Gora. If the swamp scum had not calmed down, then this very majority would have arrived in the form of real workers and would have solved the problem in its own way, not at all as gently as the riot police did.
          Google "mineriada" - how the Romanian miners soothed the kraakl there.

          So there were several of them, and if at the first mineriad the miners calmed the creakles, then at the next they themselves performed. And the delegation from the Uralvagonzavod smells bad, smells of about the same delegations, which gathered a lot in different places, and then they shyly hid their faces, repeating chants at the behest, and then after them the surrounding trash cans were littered with drums and frags of the Russian Federation
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 13 August 2020 16: 36
    -3
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    well, empty for lukasha will be 50 and not 80 will this suit you?

    Don't ask me, but the Belarusians themselves. And where are those 50-80 percent of those who allegedly voted for Lukashenka, show them why they are not on the streets?

    Well, obviously that is far from 50%. But the real percentage is not difficult to calculate. It is enough to look at the statistics of Belarus for the number of security officials and officials. This will be the real percentage.
  • Chagan85
    Chagan85 13 August 2020 16: 36
    0
    they are not frostbitten
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 13 August 2020 17: 24
    0
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    well, empty for lukasha will be 50 and not 80 will this suit you?

    Don't ask me, but the Belarusians themselves. And where are those 50-80 percent of those who allegedly voted for Lukashenka, show them why they are not on the streets?

    Let it be 80%, but let it be according to the Law.
  • VIP
    VIP 13 August 2020 14: 45
    0
    This may be closer to the truth, and so he drove himself into a corner
  • Romka
    Romka 13 August 2020 14: 27
    18
    Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 13 August 2020 14: 33
      10
      Do you want lace panties? Lose prospects and jobs, kill the economy, leave families without a livelihood?
      1. Revival
        Revival 13 August 2020 14: 45
        +7
        Is this all a consequence of an honest vote count?
        1. bar
          bar 13 August 2020 15: 32
          10
          No it's will the consequence of "honest" vote count.
      2. Romka
        Romka 13 August 2020 14: 46
        +1
        I'm afraid. That is why I cannot go to the "barricades". I have to provide people with wages and jobs, even if they are few. If they shut me down, the job will be. Unfortunately. About panties ... The girls who were arrested were forced to eat white bracelets. Everything is boiling inside.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 13 August 2020 15: 10
          25
          I have already written about my relatives in Belarus. They are not security officials, simple hard workers, pennies, a doctor. Why isn’t they boiling, they are against the opposition’s actions. About these "girls" .. Or maybe they should be well fed. To turn on the brains. Although if there is nothing in the cranium, then this will not help. Such "girls" were pouring kerosene into bottles on May 2 in Odessa.
          1. UserGun
            UserGun 13 August 2020 15: 17
            -1
            What then are the workers on strike?
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 14 August 2020 07: 21
              -2
              Quote: UserGun
              What then are the workers on strike?

              Sorry, but you are worn out to find at least one link confirming the reality of strikes.
          2. viralig
            viralig 13 August 2020 15: 26
            +2
            Your friends from that category are my hut on the edge, or what if it will be even worse. You will ask them how best how prices rise. And our great economist has already driven the economy into a corner. Because we are giving away credit at the expense of new loans. And every time we think about whether or not, and if not, what to do. And in terms of energy ...
            If we are so good, we ask you to live for another year and plunge into the atmosphere of "abundance" and "prosperity"
            1. 210ox
              210ox 13 August 2020 15: 39
              +2
              Do you think that without LAG you will feel better? Well, there are still naive ones.
              1. Romka
                Romka 13 August 2020 16: 10
                -3
                Along the way, you measure everything in monetary terms. This is an important component. I myself work in a commercial structure, but there are moral principles, there is a conscience, there is a sense of justice at last.
                1. 210ox
                  210ox 13 August 2020 16: 40
                  +3
                  I measure in monetary terms ?? !! This is probably in your opinion refers to the mass murder of people? Under the slogan of justice, protection of national interests, historical truth or falsehood .. In the same Odessa .. Do you know what is built with good intentions?
                  1. Romka
                    Romka 13 August 2020 16: 53
                    -3
                    Well, look at how the detainees are being bullied. Our fellow countryman put the shoulder straps down and wrote a report. People write asking how they can help. We do not have a wall-to-wall separation. Rather the opposite is cohesion.
            2. Arlen
              Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 11
              16
              Quote: viralig
              Your friends from that category are my hut on the edge, or what if it will be even worse

              Are you one of those who prevent people from resting at night and go around with a Molotov cocktail against law enforcement agencies?
          3. Arlen
            Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 09
            21
            I also have relatives living in Belarus. A cousin in Minsk and two sisters in Gomel. They are also against the opposition and are in favor of an alliance with Russia.
        2. bar
          bar 13 August 2020 15: 35
          +6
          About panties ... The girls who were arrested were forced to eat white bracelets. Everything is boiling inside.

          It was necessary to communicate with the girls, educate, educate, so that they understand what is most important in life, and what is not very important, so that they would not change the country for panties.
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 13 August 2020 22: 03
            -3
            Quote: bar
            About panties ... The girls who were arrested were forced to eat white bracelets. Everything is boiling inside.

            It was necessary to communicate with the girls, educate, educate, so that they understand what is most important in life, and what is not very important, so that they would not change the country for panties.

            You know, bar, I will love my girls without panties and will wear as much as they want in my arms. OUR girls deserve this.
            And let your educated ones be engaged in ZMOM, advisor ... further along Lavrov.
        3. Grits
          Grits 13 August 2020 15: 35
          11
          Quote: Romka
          The girls who were arrested were forced to eat white bracelets

          But Ukrainian girls were not forced to eat white bracelets. Now these girls in Europe are moonlighting in a known way. And they think that it would be better if they ate bracelets then ...
        4. Arlen
          Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 07
          23
          Quote: Romka
          The girls who were arrested were forced to eat white bracelets

          Have you seen it yourself? Or just again from the words of "eyewitnesses"?
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 13 August 2020 21: 23
            0
            Quote: Arlen
            again from the words of "eyewitnesses"?

            Friends of relatives of acquaintances told. yes laughing
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        6. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 13 August 2020 21: 20
          0
          Quote: Romka
          I'm afraid
          Quote: Romka
          Everything is boiling inside.

          And you need to turn down the light and open the lid, yeah.
      3. Aibolit
        Aibolit 13 August 2020 15: 01
        -7
        Quote: 210ox
        Do you want lace panties? Lose prospects and jobs, kill the economy, leave families without a livelihood?

        This is their country and their business.
        They want panties, so let it be.
        "will lose prospects."
        We take Armenia
        On April 23, 2018, Armenian Prime Minister Serzh Sargsyan was forced to resign. This was preceded by massive protests across the country, outraged by Sargsyan's attempt to stay for a third term as head of government after ten years as president. The protests were organized by the opposition led by the leader of the Yelk (Coming Out) parliamentary faction Nikol Pashinyan.


        The Russian economy grew in 2019 - by only 1,3%.
        The most dependent on our country is Belarus - only 1,2%.
        Armenia, showing growth that is many times higher than the Russian one - up to 8% per year.

        As a result of the disclosure of 346 corruption schemes, $ 105 million was returned to the budget - 7 times more than what was returned for the same reasons over the past 11 years.

        tax revenues increased in 2018 by 43,6% compared to 2017, and by 20% compared to 2018.
        ====================
        And there are no panties and NATO is not near the borders of the Russian Federation, and everyone works
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 13 August 2020 15: 12
          +9
          Quote: Aibolit
          The Russian economy grew in 2019 - by only 1,3%.

          So did the economies of France and Great Britain.
          Quote: Aibolit
          Armenia, showing growth that is many times higher than Russian - up to 8% per year

          And so is Rwanda. We can simply be proud of the economies of these countries. Only I will tell you one more secret under Sargsyan there was an increase of 7,5%.
          Quote: Aibolit
          And there are no panties and NATO is not near the borders of the Russian Federation, and everyone works

          And they prohibit the broadcast of Russian channels. And some NGO workers are now in power.
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 15: 43
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: CSKA
            As well as the economies of France and Great Britain

            in France / Great Britain required
            Quote: 210ox
            lace panties
            and in the EEC?
            Quote: CSKA
            And so is Rwanda.

            In Rwanda, at this time, was the "late" president kicked out? Rwanda in the CU and the EAEU?
            / All of you are interfering
            Quote: CSKA
            Only I will tell you one more secret under Sargsyan there was an increase of 7,5%.

            I don’t need to reveal secrets. "Was". I know.

            Drawn 7,5%
            Karen Karapetyan, who became the head of government in September 2016, announced that instead of the planned 2,2-2,4% economic growth, provide only 0,5%.

            I am so guessing that pants drawn 7,55 turns into the same 2-3% in essence

            Quote: CSKA
            And they prohibit the broadcast of Russian channels. And some NGO workers are now in power.

            This is their country, this is their business. / Russian TV channels - Frank help
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 14 August 2020 09: 24
              0
              Quote: Aibolit
              in France / Great Britain required

              Who demanded what?
              Quote: Aibolit
              In Rwanda, at this time, was the "late" president kicked out? Rwanda in the CU and the EAEU?
              / All of you are interfering

              No, they were not driven out, and in 2019 they were not driven out in Armenia. And where does the CU and the EAEU have to do with it? I mean, 1,3% growth is normal for economically developed countries, while 8% growth is normal for backward ones.
              Quote: Aibolit
              I don’t need to reveal secrets. "Was". I know.

              Of course the fall in 2009. If you don't know, then everyone had it because of the 2008 crisis.
              Quote: Aibolit
              Drawn 7,5%

              Well, of course. The previous government, of course, lied about the growth of GDP under them, and the new one, of course, is not lying.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 13 August 2020 15: 13
          20
          I see across the Krasnodar Territory. Something Armenians from a "good" life massively go to Krasnodar and around. And not vice versa.
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 15: 46
            -8
            Quote: 210ox
            I see across the Krasnodar Territory. Something Armenians from a "good" life massively go to Krasnodar and around. And not vice versa.

            Well, many go to the Krasnodar Territory.
            I don’t see that the Armenians would go to Norilsk or Murmansk en masse
            and from Kazan - they go
            1. 210ox
              210ox 13 August 2020 15: 53
              +4
              Where are they going? To Moscow or St. Petersburg. Something I do not know from that diaspora who voluntarily returned to their historical homeland. We have two people working at our enterprise, last winter I went there to visit relatives. As it was opa, it remained. On the contrary, they asked me to find a warm place with work.
          2. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 13 August 2020 16: 27
            +5
            Quote: 210ox
            Something Armenians from a "good" life massively go to Krasnodar and around.

            And in Sochi there are probably already more of them than Russians. Ryzhkov, in his time, made it work: he allowed the victims of the earthquake (Stepanokert, etc.) to settle in Sochi, there was no place in Armenia.
            The only resort where you can swim in the sea and go skiing, at the same time - a border town, but they settle ...
            1. 210ox
              210ox 13 August 2020 16: 48
              +1
              For the sake of fairness, it must be said that we have a large Armenian diaspora in the Kuban not from those tragic events of the second half of the 80s, but from the decree on the colonization of the southern lands of Catherine the Great. She allowed the Armenians to settle, trade and craft.
            2. Servisinzhener
              Servisinzhener 13 August 2020 22: 58
              0
              Many have lived there since the 18-19th century. Especially in the Tuapse region. In general, there is a good series of articles about this territory on VO.
        3. K-612-O
          K-612-O 13 August 2020 15: 27
          16
          Only fairy tales work about everything. There is no place to work there.
          We need to look at the Armenian economy after the blocking of transfers from Russia, how everything will bloom there.
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 15: 50
            -11 qualifying.
            Quote: K-612-O
            Only fairy tales work about everything. There is no place to work there.

            Moving to Armenia
            IT emigration

            Quote: K-612-O
            We need to look at the Armenian economy after blocking transfers from Russia,

            belay
            You see, you do not know that Armenia is in the EEU, CU and CSTO, and there is our military base.
            What kind of blocking?
        4. bar
          bar 13 August 2020 15: 38
          +4
          Armenia, showing growth that is many times higher than the Russian one - up to 8% per year.
          ... tax revenue increased in 2018 by 43,6% compared to 2017, and by 20% compared to 2018.

          Are they going to raise taxes there every year for economic growth? And how long will such growth last?
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 17: 18
            -3
            Quote: bar
            Are they going to raise taxes there every year for economic growth?

            raise? belay
            2017

            now and tomorrow
        5. fiberboard
          fiberboard 13 August 2020 15: 46
          +9
          I am glad that the Armenian economy is showing such growth. But explain to me why they go to Russia, why they live off transfers, basically from Russia?
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 17: 22
            -7
            Quote: fiberboard
            I am glad that the Armenian economy is showing such growth. But explain to me why they go to Russia, why they live off transfers, basically from Russia?

            India shows even greater growth and they are from India no less and live on transfers from construction sites in the UAE
            Shl.
            According to Rosstat data published in 2017, 2016 313 people left Russia in 210 (of which 256 480 went to the CIS countries, 56730 to other countries).
            In 2017 - this is the latest fresh data - Rosstat reported 377 thousand people who went abroad, which was a record figure over the past five years.

            Most emigrants from Russia in 2017 are people of working age, up to 34 years old. At the same time, the number of people leaving with a higher education has sharply increased: compared to 2012 - more than 4 times.

            Rosstat lies godlessly, at times. Like our Central Election Commission

            there will be a disaster in 2020
          2. bar
            bar 13 August 2020 17: 51
            +3
            why do they go to Russia, why do they live off transfers, basically from Russia?

            Well, they need to somehow improve the economy of Armenia. In Armenia itself, the economy is mainly a sphere of services that they provide to each other. And that will soon be strangled by "increasing the collection of taxes."
        6. iConst
          iConst 13 August 2020 15: 59
          +8
          Quote: Aibolit
          Armenia, showing growth that is many times higher than the Russian one - up to 8% per year.
          Interest is a crafty thing.

          This year my neighbor and I have each harvested one more bucket of potatoes than last year.
          The neighbor last year collected one bucket, and I - ten. The neighbor's "economy" growth is 100% - I have only 10%.
          It turns out that the neighbor's "economy" is ten times more efficient than mine. laughing

          There is a term that defines this phenomenon - "low base effect".
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 17: 26
            -7
            Quote: iConst
            This year my neighbor and I have each harvested one more bucket of potatoes than last year.

            GDP is not a potato, you are exaggerating
            Quote: iConst
            There is a term that defines this phenomenon - "low base effect".

            naturally.
            Let's go in absolute numbers

            11,66 billion USD (2008)
            10,62 billion USD (2012)
            11,53 billion USD (2017)
            12,43 billion USD (2018)
            it is appropriate to talk about a bucket of potatoes versus 2 buckets about other terms
        7. Arlen
          Arlen 13 August 2020 16: 15
          18
          Quote: Aibolit
          This is their country and their business.

          We are one brotherly Slavic people and we have one history.
          Quote: Aibolit
          NATO is not near the borders of the Russian Federation

          Take a closer look at the NATO location map.
          1. Aibolit
            Aibolit 13 August 2020 17: 31
            -7
            Quote: Arlen
            We are one brotherly Slavic people and we have one history.

            There is also a “Finnish” concept put forward by the writer Ivan Laskov. According to her, the ancestors of the Belarusians were the Finno-Ugrians ...
            Quote: Arlen
            Take a closer look at the NATO location map.

            Can you read? It was about Armenia
        8. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 14 August 2020 16: 00
          0
          All to Armenia! Armenia is the same New Vasyuki, only "true")))
      4. snucerist
        snucerist 13 August 2020 16: 27
        +1

        "Lose prospects and jobs, kill the economy, leave families without a livelihood?"
        And you did not ask such questions when you outlined the classics of Marxism-Leniism?
        Didn't it occur to you then that the Bolsheviks, who called for an all-Russian strike and took strikes into service in principle, were depriving someone of prospects and jobs? Killing the Russian economy, leaving families without a livelihood?
        Didn't it bother you then? In what way did they try to build a socialist paradise? Which are we so proud of today?
        Meanwhile, the masters of socialism followed this very path.
        We open the Complete Works of V. I. Lenin, ed. 5, v. 30, p. 311, we read about the analysis of the First Russian revolution: "... it (the revolution) ... is the first in world history, but it will undoubtedly not be the last - a great revolution in which the mass political strike played an unusually large role. "
        The leader of the world proletariat was not in the least occupied by families with no means of subsistence. By the way, the Party considered the strike only a half measure; the ideal was an armed uprising. I mean a coup d'etat.
        “The general political strike,” wrote Lenin in February 1906, “should be viewed at the given moment of the movement not so much as an independent means of struggle, but as an auxiliary in relation to the uprising” (ibid., Vol. 12, p. 227).
        A strike, a strike as a measure of struggle for their rights, was highly valued by the founders of the socialist state. The same strike, the beginnings of which began to be seen in Belarus.
        So what's up?
        Why for 70 years did we live according to the precepts of the classics, lived happily, were grateful for the strikes and strikes that marked the beginning of the world's first socialist country, but today suddenly we are concerned about some families without a livelihood? Have you suddenly remembered about the economy, prospects, work?
        What has changed?
        The goal is the same - the overthrow of tyranny.
        The methods are the same - a strike (fortunately, things did not come to an armed uprising, the Bolsheviks would not chew snot for a long time in such a situation).
        What has changed? Why do some people dislike the events in Belarus?
        And there is no need to mention the bloody tsarist regime with the starving proletariat. Today the situation is much better.
      5. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 29
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        Do you want lace panties?

        This is later, but first the honesty of the authorities, and not the trick "we enter, we do not enter"
      6. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 13 August 2020 17: 27
        -5
        Quote: 210ox
        Do you want lace panties? Lose prospects and jobs, kill the economy, leave families without a livelihood?

        I would have looked at you if your wife had instructed you on the horns. Nothing terrible, just half a lash.
    2. credo
      credo 13 August 2020 14: 42
      16
      Quote: Romka
      Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.

      Everyone wants fair elections - Americans, Italians, Russians, Ukrainians, Jews, and Arabs - none of the local commentators denies this.
      It's just that they have seen and know about "fair" elections in Russia, for example, in Ukraine so much that they really do not want a repetition of the same events in Belarus. That's the whole secret.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 31
        +2
        Quote: credo
        about "fair" elections, for example, in Ukraine there are so many that they really do not want a repeat

        Are there any other alternative examples? Or elections in all countries through devastation?
        England held a referendum on leaving the EU and nothing - no war, no devastation
    3. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 13 August 2020 14: 52
      +1
      Quote: Romka
      Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.

      Unfortunately, our elections have never been the basis for the legitimacy of the authorities. This is just the background. And power is strength. I could take and hold, wake up to rule. I couldn't, the next one will come.
      Democracy is good in a stable society, when, by and large, nothing depends on the leader.
      1. bar
        bar 13 August 2020 15: 42
        +3
        Democracy is good in a stable society, when, by and large, nothing depends on the leader.

        Yeah, and the "stronghold of democracy" is a vivid example of this. laughing
        It is clear that the country is powerful and can be buzzed for a long time. But it doesn't make it any better.
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 13 August 2020 23: 03
          0
          In this stronghold there is a choice. Of two options. Moreover, there is no prohibition to make the third option. But everything has been done so that the third option will not appear. And if he can somehow miraculously appear, he will still be forced to accept the position of those two.
          1. bar
            bar 14 August 2020 08: 03
            +1
            In this stronghold there is a choice. Of two options. Moreover, there is no prohibition to make the third option.

            Judging by the number of "impeachments" for one presidential term and sabotage of the work of the next legally elected, there is only one option. So no need to flatter yourself.
    4. Grits
      Grits 13 August 2020 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: Romka
      we just want an HONEST choice

      We all got it. For you, fair elections are when an opposition candidate wins. All the rest are rigging. As old as the world.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 33
        +1
        Quote: Gritsa
        For you, fair elections are when you win ...

        ..The one who got the most votes, and not the one who theirs, votes, considers
        1. Grits
          Grits 14 August 2020 14: 25
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          The one who got the most votes, and not the one who theirs, votes, considers

          And how do you propose, without counting votes, to determine which of the most won? And who prevents the opposition from counting votes? After all, the PECs have members from other parties. Or, in extreme cases, observers from an opposition candidate at each precinct. Those who are present during the counting and at the end of it take a copy of the protocol.
    5. Chever
      Chever 13 August 2020 15: 39
      +3
      [/ quote] [quote = Romka] Local commentators cannot believe, many just break the patterns, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.

      The foil cap of these commentators melted :))
    6. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 49
      0
      Quote: Romka
      Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.

      Do not judge strictly, there are enough bots on the salary
    7. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 August 2020 21: 32
      0
      Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.
      Musya ....
      Well, who are you selling old orange bikes to?
      If you like to walk on a rake, then this is a clinic.
    8. dali
      dali 14 August 2020 11: 00
      0
      Quote: Romka
      Local commentators can't believe, many just break the mold, that we just want a HONEST election. ALL.

      You may want to, only those who will hold these "fair elections" from the opposition, they are not needed at all, they now need to take power. And then, on people like you it will be "violet" laughing .
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 28
    39
    Quote: Andr_38
    No, the workers only want a fair vote count.

    In Ukraine, they also counted, Yanik was thrown off, Gunpowder was put, KRAZ bye, Antonov bye. Justice has triumphed.
    1. Andr_38
      Andr_38 13 August 2020 14: 37
      -3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      [
      In Ukraine, they also counted, Yanik was thrown off, Gunpowder was put, KRAZ bye, Antonov bye. Justice has triumphed.

      What was the counting of votes during the Ukrainian Maidan, remind me, otherwise I am not the topic, apparently.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 54
        +1
        Quote: Andr_38
        What was the counting of votes during the Ukrainian Maidan, remind me, otherwise I am not the topic, apparently.

        At least remind, at least do not remind, but it still came out bye-bye.
        1. Andr_38
          Andr_38 13 August 2020 14: 57
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine

          At least remind, at least do not remind, but it still came out bye-bye.

          So, what did they "consider" in Ukraine during the Maidan?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 August 2020 16: 47
            0
            Quote: Andr_38
            So, what did they "consider" in Ukraine during the Maidan?

            And you mean the bill? So they thought the money, how much they were paid for the day of the Maidan.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 13 August 2020 17: 40
              -1
              Stop lying about Ukraine. Just looked at our Wikipedia and here's the help:
              over the past 2 years, GDP growth in Ukraine - 3,2% - 3,3%.
              And I looked at Russia, so we have an increase of 0,5% - 1,5%.
              1. dali
                dali 14 August 2020 11: 02
                0
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Stop lying about Ukraine. Just looked at our Wikipedia and here's the help:
                over the past 2 years, GDP growth in Ukraine - 3,2% - 3,3%.

                laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                I'll describe myself with laughter ...
      2. Evgeny Ivanov_5
        Evgeny Ivanov_5 13 August 2020 15: 20
        -2
        Equitable
      3. bar
        bar 13 August 2020 15: 46
        +6
        What was the counting of votes during the Ukrainian Maidan, remind me, otherwise I am not the topic, apparently.

        Another goldfish with a 30 second memory? For oppos "fair count" when oppos win. You will not be satisfied if, as a result of an honest calculation, dad gets, for example, honest 60% instead of 80? Will you stand to the end?
    2. Revival
      Revival 13 August 2020 14: 46
      +1
      Are you suggesting honestly not to count in principle, how would something not work out?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 13 August 2020 14: 55
        +8
        And what does it mean - honestly? Do you really not believe that the majority voted for Old Man, and not for an unknown murky madam without any intelligible political and economic program?

        I, too, hate Putin, but to vote for those alternatives that are in our elections - a boast ... These are even worse. Therefore, I just don't go anywhere.
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 13 August 2020 15: 28
          +7
          You don't go. Perfectly. Your business and your right. Do not put up with Putin.
          And more than 80% of Belarusians, therefore, in a single impulse flooded to vote for the dad, all as one? Despite the fact that many of them also hate Lukashenka?
          Where is the logic?
          On what basis do you think Belarusians are stupider than yourself?
          When will some people get that simple idea that the Belarusian people voted not for some "unknown muddy madam", but against a dictator, tyrant, impostor and forger? The choice came only from Tikhanovskaya? So who's to blame?
          Who is to blame for the fact that the tyrant mowed the entire political clearing to zero? Jailed all possible political competitors?
          Why is it necessary to see the trail of the State Department-Soros-cookies, etc. in the events? Most of us cannot admit the idea that people go for their violated rights after they spit in their face? It is difficult for us to imagine that other people have retained notions of honor, of their own dignity, what do they dislike when people wipe their feet about them?
          As for the strike, it is absolutely correct and logical step. Since the use of force is unacceptable for most people (unlike riot police), civil disobedience remains. Peacefully, efficiently, efficiently. How will families survive? For some reason, the Bolsheviks did not bother with this issue when they called for a general strike as a lever for building a socialist paradise, over which tears are again shedding today.
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 13 August 2020 16: 08
            0
            If the "candidates" have a serious political organization, if over a period of time this organization has received sufficiently broad support from the popular masses, then no one will cleanse the "candidates", because there is no point - allies will come. If the "candidates" are cardboard fools for half a month of performance, then they go there - to clean up. The rise to power is years of hard work, not a leap on foreign grants.
            1. Revival
              Revival 13 August 2020 17: 05
              0
              What is the law for them to purge?
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 August 2020 16: 51
            0
            Quote: snucerist
            When will some people get that simple idea that the Belarusian people voted not for some "unknown muddy madam", but against a dictator, tyrant, impostor and forger?

            Here you are right, and then explain to a naive Chukchi youth.
        2. mdsr
          mdsr 13 August 2020 15: 41
          +2
          Quote: paul3390
          You really do not believe that the majority voted for the Old Man, and not for the unknown murky madam

          Not a single citizen of Belarus believes in this. This mustachioed senile Adolf Lukashenko has a maximum of 10 - 15 percent. According to independent exit polls, after a survey of 85500 voters leaving the polling stations, the agrofuehrer had 13%.
        3. Revival
          Revival 13 August 2020 17: 03
          +2
          Honestly, this is fair, but in reality it is transparent in order to knock out arguments from opponents.
          Why are the protocols hidden?
          Why can't the observers count and smear most of the opponents' arguments?
          Why did they seize those who counted the visit and detained?
          So that with all the honesty of questions and complaints, there were as many as possible? To the detriment of yourself?

          Vote for the housewife, and not because everyone else was suddenly arrested by coincidence exactly after the application for candidates?
      2. Evgeny Ivanov_5
        Evgeny Ivanov_5 13 August 2020 15: 23
        0
        The criterion of honesty in the studio please.
      3. Kisa
        Kisa 13 August 2020 16: 17
        +1
        exactly . recount and close the question forever
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 34
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      In Ukraine, they also calculated

      Note that it was the vote count that overthrew President Poroshenko, who had all the leverage to falsify
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 13 August 2020 18: 09
        +4
        Well, Poroshenko had nothing at all, in terms of leverage. Those who put Gunpowder had and have levers ..
    4. Mirabo 91
      Mirabo 91 13 August 2020 16: 52
      -3
      KRAZ, Antonov, Yuzhmash and Yuzhnoye Design Bureau - all of them have been like bye for 20 years already. You would have written ZAZ in your crazy commentary.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 13 August 2020 17: 48
        -1
        I do not know what is there about KRAZ and Antonov, but I know that the growth rate of Ukraine's GDP is higher than in Russia.
        here is the reference from Wikipedia:
        over the past 2 years, GDP growth in Ukraine - 3,2% - 3,3%.
        and Russia's GDP growth is 0,5% - 1,5%.
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 13 August 2020 18: 11
          +6
          And in terms of magnitude, compare ..
          By the way, if Ukraine took out a loan, then it will also be in percentage terms with GDP growth, so this is not entirely objective. Russia seems to be taking no loans lately.
        2. your1970
          your1970 13 August 2020 19: 56
          +2
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          here is the reference from Wikipedia:

          Do you want me there to Ukraine 5%, or 7,2%
          GDP growth rate? These numbers will definitely hold out for three days ...
    5. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 52
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: Andr_38
      No, the workers only want a fair vote count.

      In Ukraine, they also counted, Yanik was thrown off, Gunpowder was put, KRAZ bye, Antonov bye. Justice has triumphed.

      In the Russian Empire in the 17th century, they also conducted - hello industrialization, we won the war, hello space, hello nuclear weapons, hello submarines, hello planes. Such a comparison will probably burn you somewhere below the waist?
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 19: 20
        +1
        Quote: Vol4ara
        In the Russian Empire in the 17th century, they also conducted - hello industrialization, we won the war, hello space, hello nuclear weapons, hello submarines, hello planes. Such a comparison will probably burn you somewhere below the waist?

        In the 17th they carried out - and the war was lost, and the empire was destroyed.
        And to win the next war, go into space, etc., the Empire had to be re-created.
        And already this Empire held out until the strikers were met, as expected, with bullets, as in Novocherkassk. And when the will to self-defense has dried up in perestroika - then that's it, the end.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 13 August 2020 20: 52
          -1
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Quote: Vol4ara
          In the Russian Empire in the 17th century, they also conducted - hello industrialization, we won the war, hello space, hello nuclear weapons, hello submarines, hello planes. Such a comparison will probably burn you somewhere below the waist?

          In the 17th they carried out - and the war was lost, and the empire was destroyed.
          And to win the next war, go into space, etc., the Empire had to be re-created.
          And already this Empire held out until the strikers were met, as expected, with bullets, as in Novocherkassk. And when the will to self-defense has dried up in perestroika - then that's it, the end.

          Blah blah blah, but in fact the revolution led to the creation of one of the strongest states in the world. Like the revolution led to the creation of the United States, oops, that's a bummer huh? Both the United States and France emerged as a result of violent overthrow of government.
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 21: 52
            +1
            Quote: Vol4ara
            Both the United States and France emerged from violent overthrows

            Yes, just do not forget that there the revolution was preceded by the desacralization of power in the process of the general decomposition of spirituality by Jewish and Masonic "enlighteners".
            Among the Slavs, at least the Orthodox, spirituality and the idea of ​​the sacredness of power have been largely preserved, despite the fact that the Jews, Freemasons and Bolsheviks did a great deal of work to dismantle them. And now, during the "color revolutions", they are trying to finish this dismantling.
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 13 August 2020 22: 31
              +1
              Quote: Narak-zempo
              Quote: Vol4ara
              Both the United States and France emerged from violent overthrows

              Yes, just do not forget that there the revolution was preceded by the desacralization of power in the process of the general decomposition of spirituality by Jewish and Masonic "enlighteners".
              Among the Slavs, at least the Orthodox, spirituality and the idea of ​​the sacredness of power have been largely preserved, despite the fact that the Jews, Freemasons and Bolsheviks did a great deal of work to dismantle them. And now, during the "color revolutions", they are trying to finish this dismantling.

              Not a conspiracy theorist. So, I will not even comment
              1. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 13 August 2020 23: 16
                -1
                Quote: Vol4ara
                Not a conspiracy theorist. So, I will not even comment

                But I have never understood people who so uncritically perceive everything that is fed to them, that once they read in a textbook that the Earth is round, they believe in it until their death.
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 13 August 2020 23: 48
                  0
                  Quote: Narak-zempo
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  Not a conspiracy theorist. So, I will not even comment

                  But I have never understood people who so uncritically perceive everything that is fed to them, that once they read in a textbook that the Earth is round, they believe in it until their death.

                  Well, if I were at the level of an 11th century peasant in terms of development, I probably would have thought differently
  • Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 13 August 2020 15: 15
    11
    Several hundred out of 10 thousand is less than 10%. More than 90% did not go on strike. But the opinion and vote of these 10% is much more important to the Western media and "pro-Western Belarusian political forces" than the future of 100% of the Belarusian people.
    Democracy, therefore, is the dictatorship of a screaming minority over a quiet majority.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 13 August 2020 16: 12
    -2
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: apro
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

    No, the workers only want a fair vote count.

    There are 100 rams on the video, chanting something, and a couple of journalists are filming it. Pay attention (0:59) the factory worker passes by and looks at these clowns with bewilderment .. Hollywood is crying on the sidelines.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 August 2020 17: 00
      -1
      Quote: Senka Mad
      Pay attention (0:59) the factory worker passes by and looks at these clowns with bewilderment .. Hollywood is crying on the sidelines.

      And these were the workers of the plant, or brought specialists.
  • made13
    made13 13 August 2020 16: 12
    +1
    Workers, and even employees, usually do not care. If only the work was paid. If this is true, and people took to the streets, then they just got drunk. Reminds Libya with Gaddafi. We lived well, but wanted even sweeter. What did you get? In Ukraine, the same crap - they galloped to the loss of the Crimea and the civil war. 5% of the marginalized have the whole country, and the rest of the Maidan herd are given noodles about democracy.
  • kulinar
    kulinar 13 August 2020 16: 31
    0
    What for?
    Simple question...
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 13 August 2020 17: 09
    +1
    ,, ... the proletariat is the gravedigger of imperialism..ts "
    Apparently the State Department coughs up the workers, but the bourgeoisie?
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 13 August 2020 18: 51
    0
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: apro
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

    No, the workers only want a fair vote count.

    For $ 100 a day, why not want it? laughing
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 14 August 2020 11: 51
    0
    Some interesting workers - age 18 - 23. That there are no older workers at BelAZ? Or have they specially selected the stupid youth? for extras, as in Banderland))))
  • loki565
    loki565 13 August 2020 14: 02
    45
    Europeans do not need a competitor with cheap products, everything will be like with our enterprises in the 90s they will simply go bankrupt.
    1. apro
      apro 13 August 2020 14: 04
      25
      Quote: loki565
      everything will be like with our enterprises in the 90s they will simply go bankrupt

      Who would doubt that.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 August 2020 14: 19
        +1
        Suppose a strike is a forced action, usually, the main thing is where and who will turn it. Who will support it and how. Nothing is clear yet ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 August 2020 14: 33
          +3
          In my opinion, it is clear and understandable here who wants to wrap it up and where, the West will not lag behind like a bath leaf, one wrong step and the situation will get out of control ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 August 2020 14: 59
            +1
            The old / new president was too clever, too clever. We, from the outside, do not understand a lot ... there are too many lies from different sides.
            Bye Bye. just look from the outside ... but this is for us, outside observers, and those who have to, need to work harder. At the expense of decisive actions ... everything is very dumb, and also because the daddy has pretty much stirred up this ... even partners should not forgive this, let alone the one who wanted to be considered someone closer ... for such a face it was necessary polish immediately and thoroughly.
            1. cniza
              cniza 13 August 2020 15: 05
              +3
              Lukashenka should have announced the real numbers on the voting, he won, only the percentage is much lower, but no ... now, what to do ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 13 August 2020 15: 07
                +4
                Many people say that they would have won anyway. Why was it necessary to arrange this bedlam ???
                1. cniza
                  cniza 13 August 2020 15: 08
                  +4
                  Counselors suggested, because his own environment merges him, but by someone else's hands ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 13 August 2020 15: 10
                    +4
                    Standard situation .... they are not always "correct".
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 13 August 2020 15: 18
                      +4
                      Yes, nobody canceled the classics of the genre ...
              2. mdsr
                mdsr 13 August 2020 15: 48
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                Lukashenka should have announced the real numbers on voting

                The real numbers are 13%.
                Quote: cniza
                he won, only the percentage is much lower, but no.

                Yes, I won everyone except Tikhanovskaya.
                Quote: cniza
                now what to do

                You had to think before. It's too late now. I wrote to all of you about this even before the elections. But it never reached you. He is already a political corpse and a particularly dangerous criminal for Belarusians. But it may soon become a real corpse. Belarus has already defeated this Fuhrer. Alive Belarus!
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 13 August 2020 16: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: mdsr
                  The real numbers are 13%.

                  It is impossible to document it. Okay, according to your statement, it turns out that the demonstrations should gather MILLIONS of supporters !!! No one can resist such a POWER!
                  So far, the number of Protestants does not reach any significant figures!
                  Simple math, simple logic ... you didn't learn anything at school ???
                2. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 13 August 2020 18: 14
                  +2
                  It's time to start writing in mov ...
                3. cniza
                  cniza 13 August 2020 18: 35
                  +2
                  The real numbers are 13%.


                  Not you, nor I can name the numbers, but these are your dreams ...
              3. New Year day
                New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 37
                +3
                Quote: cniza
                Lukashenka should have announced the real numbers on voting

                They are not in his favor. Several TECs made the protocols public - Luka gained about 15-20%
                1. cniza
                  cniza 13 August 2020 18: 37
                  +2
                  Yeah, and they wrote on the fence ... I'm not a supporter of Lukashenka and this is not my country ...
            2. Kisa
              Kisa 13 August 2020 16: 20
              +5
              the cockroach is very toxic right now. and Vova, of course, needs to stay away from him
    2. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 13 August 2020 14: 23
      -4
      Who is BelAZ a competitor to? Komatzu and Pirelli? So their prices are 10% higher, but maintenance is free. Is Caterpillar a competitor? Fear God, it's like comparing Lada and Mercedes, not a single BelAZ stands next to the cars of other manufacturers either in terms of operating costs, or in terms of technical indicators, or in ergonomics. And they don't buy Belarusian dump trucks either in the world or in Russia. 55% of cars sold are about two dozen. The rest of the dump trucks go to the warehouse.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 32
        +8
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        not a single BelAZ stands next to the machines of other manufacturers in terms of operating costs

        Well, now they themselves will ruin BelAZ.
        1. Zeev zeev
          Zeev zeev 13 August 2020 14: 47
          -5
          They will ruin, they will definitely ruin. Because the products of this plant are not needed by anyone. Even Russia.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 18
            12
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            Because the products of this plant are not needed by anyone. Even Russia.

            If we compare BelAZ 7545 with the Russian new generation Tonar-45251, then its price is 12,5 million rubles.
            Cheaper than Belarusian, and even more so your own. Why do you need someone else's, if you have your own, and not the worst.
          2. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 14 August 2020 16: 03
            0
            Yes! Israel knows better! Everyone knows that Israel is the best in career technology! (Sarcasm)
        2. WTF1980
          WTF1980 13 August 2020 15: 04
          +8
          and 10 workers, home, or with the prospect of moving to the plantations to the Polish "brothers".
          1. Nikolay73
            Nikolay73 13 August 2020 15: 17
            +5
            Oh, in Poland they love Belarusians very much ... It's very straight!
        3. halpat
          halpat 13 August 2020 15: 12
          10
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: ZeevZeev
          not a single BelAZ stands next to the machines of other manufacturers in terms of operating costs

          Well, now they themselves will ruin BelAZ.

          And it was not BelaZ ... and it was not MAZ ... and it was not Belneftekhim with all his ... Belshins generally only fit into a fire ...
          and in general the first laws of the principality of Lithuania and later of the Commonwealth were written in ... Old Belarusian ...
          uraaa !!
          hto are these there in Moscow ??? we are not them !!!

          the Polish garden is calling !!! uraaa ...

          It's so offensive to look at all this: ((
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 August 2020 17: 08
            +1
            Quote: Halpat
            the Polish garden is calling !!! uraaa ...

            They will again become "Lyakhov's outskirts".
      2. loki565
        loki565 13 August 2020 14: 35
        +7
        You are cringing why they buy Chinese products all over the world, because European ones are better ???))) Mercedes is also a good car, but for some reason Kia and Hyundai sell more))) Belaz has its own sales market, and if Chinese partners are interested in them , maybe all competitors will get bad.
        1. Zeev zeev
          Zeev zeev 13 August 2020 14: 53
          -9
          Buy for a combination of "price-quality". Those who have no money buy cheap but bad things. Those who have money buy more expensive, but better. Hyundai and Kia are KOREAN cars. But they are also bought by those who do not have money for Skoda.
          1. loki565
            loki565 13 August 2020 15: 19
            +7
            Buy for a combination of "price-quality". Those who have no money buy cheap but bad things. Those who have money buy more expensive, but better. Hyundai and Kia are KOREAN cars. But they are also bought by those who do not have money for Skoda.

            You see, you can think sensibly whenever you want, they buy cheaper and this is a worldwide practice, and Belaz also has its own niche, and with a Chinese approach, there are great future. As for the cars, everything is correct KOREAN, now write whose MERCEDES))) The fact that the price tag for a Mercedes is more than for a Kia probably will not deny? And for this Kia sell more than Mercedes)))
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 13 August 2020 17: 14
              +3
              Quote: loki565
              The fact that the price tag for a Mercedes is more than for a Kia probably will not deny? And for this Kia sell more than Mercedes)

              Because all over the world there are rich and poor. The rich buy Mercedes and the poor buy KIA. And they sell more KIA, because the poor are much more than the rich. And the poorest people buy a Polish bicycle.
              1. Zeev zeev
                Zeev zeev 13 August 2020 17: 31
                0
                Judging by our Israeli taxi drivers, they are all rich. Or Skoda or Mercedes
                1. dali
                  dali 14 August 2020 11: 14
                  0
                  Quote: ZeevZeev
                  Judging by our Israeli taxi drivers, they are all rich. Or Skoda or Mercedes
                  Well, Israel is not an indicator of anything at all ... laughing
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 13 August 2020 14: 56
          +2
          I saw with my own eyes, and from the employees of the convoy I heard how bad they were from the Chinese dump trucks, bought cheaper than MAZ and KAMAZ.
          1. loki565
            loki565 13 August 2020 15: 24
            +6
            I saw with my own eyes, and from the employees of the convoy I heard how bad they were from the Chinese dump trucks, bought cheaper than MAZ and KAMAZ.
            And the good boss listened to them and immediately bought Volvo and Man ???
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            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 13 August 2020 17: 27
              +1
              Quote: loki565
              And the good boss listened to them and immediately bought Volvo and Man ???
              For a long time, we have not had MAZs, KAMAZs or Chinese, but Volvo, MAN, Scania. The money invested pays off. Moreover, if directly, then there are more discounts, insurance and loans are profitable, and leasing is also not bad.
            3. your1970
              your1970 13 August 2020 20: 06
              0
              Quote: loki565
              I saw with my own eyes, and from the employees of the convoy I heard how bad they were from the Chinese dump trucks, bought cheaper than MAZ and KAMAZ.
              And the good boss listened to them and immediately bought Volvo and Man ???

              Well, let's put the stories about brake failures on the Hovah - it's true. I have a relative on it almost ditched ... And he is neat ...
        3. beeper
          beeper 13 August 2020 14: 59
          +8
          if Chinese partners are interested in them, it may be bad for all competitors.

          If yes if only, then BelAZ employees will "get bad", first of all! winked
          Since the Chinese "comrades" are in the habit of bringing their Chinese workers to their "projects" (including in Belarus, those who have already dealt with "Chinese credit construction") bring their Chinese workers (and the aborigines, if necessary, are limited by the Chinese, only as a temporary auxiliary cheap slaveforce and using as much as they needed, without any "sentiment" to the local Labor Code, they are sacked hard!) and use Chinese components, thereby providing jobs and livelihoods for the PRC's own industry and its citizens! request
          1. loki565
            loki565 13 August 2020 15: 31
            +3
            If yes if only, then BelAZ employees will "get bad", first of all!

            And they have little choice, either to raise the level of their products to European ones, which is unlikely to be possible with machine tools from the times of the USSR. Or partnership with China, by transferring part of production to the ter of China, as many world giants actually do. Well, there is always an option with Polish strawberries)))
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 31
          +2
          Quote: loki565
          Belaz has its own sales market, and if Chinese partners are interested in them, it can get bad for all competitors.
          Why would the Chinese need a Belarusian BelAZ, they have their own factories to some place, well, at least Shaanxi Automobile Group Co., Ltd. an automobile plant in Xi'an, Shaanxi province, producing mining dump trucks, the Shaanxi SX5504 dump truck, 45 tons.
          Russia created the TONAR plant near Moscow on its basis. There is no one to be ill.
          1. loki565
            loki565 13 August 2020 15: 35
            +3
            Why would the Chinese need a Belarusian BelAZ, they have their own factories to some place, well, at least Shaanxi Automobile Group Co., Ltd. an automobile plant in Xi'an, Shaanxi province, producing mining dump trucks, the Shaanxi SX5504 dump truck, 45 tons.
            Russia created the TONAR plant near Moscow on its basis. There is no one to be ill.

            Then, why did the Ukrainian Motor Sich, but the Americans rushed in there and blocked the sale.
      3. Moskovit
        Moskovit 13 August 2020 15: 32
        +7
        Where did you get these numbers? Link at least.
        Last year Belaz sold almost 900 vehicles. 450 to Russia. Can you share your classified information
    3. Rubi0
      Rubi0 13 August 2020 15: 00
      +2
      here one can argue, depending on what kind of product we are talking about, the export of man-hours is also a product. The Poles may need something in their ambitions, but the Belazs obviously did not fall for them for quarries.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 13 August 2020 14: 06
    -4
    Quote: apro
    "Lost house": workers of BelAZ plant joined the strike in Belarus

    Well, apparently there is such a powerful salary and prospects in life as hell for that plant. I repeat. Where is the powerful support of the Lkashenkav electorate. Well, except for social networks in Russia laughing Where is the massive support of 80% of the leader of the nation?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 13 August 2020 14: 11
      18
      Lukoshenko ruined the support of social networks in the Russian Federation with his own hands ...
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 13 August 2020 14: 13
        -3
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Lukoshenko ruined the support of social networks in the Russian Federation with his own hands ...

        I'm not sure. Judging by the activity even on our website, the "Belarusian regional committee" - wassat In action.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 13 August 2020 17: 57
          +1
          Yes, I confirm that Lukashenka has overwhelming support on this website. This is clearly visible from the comments.
          1. dali
            dali 14 August 2020 11: 19
            0
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            Yes, I confirm that Lukashenka has overwhelming support on this website. This is clearly visible from the comments.

            Open your eyes, it is not Lukashenka who has overwhelming support, but your pro-Western oppositionists and their brainless support have an overwhelming rejection !!!
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 13 August 2020 14: 16
      +6
      And one more question. While the opposition paid by the West is taking to the streets, what is the opposition paid by Russia doing at this time? Or is it not by definition? Then the house really disappeared.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 14: 27
        +7
        there is no such and never was
        1. halpat
          halpat 13 August 2020 16: 02
          +5
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          there is no such and never was

          this is a systemic error, how many times Russia has stepped on the same rake.
          The formula for interaction with the near abroad is, in my opinion:

          1. Where will they go (people)? They are our brothers, they remember everything.

          2. Since they will not go anywhere (see item 1), then we are working with only the leadership of these fraternal republics (and really non-states), Vasya-Vasya there and so on. We will stand on the podium together, we will give loans.

          3. God forbid disturbing this leadership (see p. 3), and therefore we do not go further than declarations of friendship, what are such pro-Russian NGOs ... God forbid offending the border (with Russia) woman. He (babay, agroführer, etc.) will figure it out himself, with the support of the local population who loves him and remembers Russia.

          Kyrgyzstan is such a perfect example of these 3 points (above). How much Russian money was stolen there by successive condos.
          Moreover, it was arrogant, almost immediately after crediting "to the correspondent account."

          And as another “atambayev” kissing on the gum, he fought back in his aul with the help of a few relatives from the next woman.

          And therefore the ambassadors are ... like Mezentsev, who has always served honestly, since the Komsomol times and if hesitated, then strictly along with the party line.

          PS. I also wanted to write that it is time to change this "scheme of work." Yes, I think that there is nothing to change, that is, there is no need for anything. For Belarus has already been lost, right before our eyes.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 16: 12
            +1
            like the United States pay the people, they also contain the elite, when they turn away, stones will fly at them, but it's easy for them. there is a printing press, + - lard is nonsense but we are already tight
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 02
              0
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              like the United States pay the people, they also contain the elite, when they turn away, stones will fly at them, but it's easy for them. there is a printing press, + - lard is nonsense but we are already tight

              So let's build a printing press too, business then)
          2. Aag
            Aag 13 August 2020 17: 43
            +3
            "Belarus is lost, right before our eyes" ...
            Similar thoughts crept up when only Mezentsev, the ex-governor of the Irkutsk region, was sent there
            .For it was considered a "well-deserved rest" ..
            1. halpat
              halpat 13 August 2020 19: 38
              +4
              Quote: AAG
              "Belarus is lost, right before our eyes" ...
              Similar thoughts crept up when only Mezentsev, the ex-governor of the Irkutsk region, was sent there
              .For it was considered a "well-deserved rest" ..

              Well, Mr. Mezentsev is not only and not just the ex-governor of the Irkutsk region.
              And not immediately from the governors got to the ambassador. He is from St. Petersburg. Not from the “narrow circle of limited people” (c) :)) but from those close to this “circle”.
              So while in the near abroad they will appoint "a well-deserved rest" (for example, Zurabov, Mezentsev, and Chernomyrdin rest in peace to him), the result will be the same - a loss.
              We need fighters and "to the front", not "vacationers". At the same time, without a program and support, even a fighter will quickly slide down to the routine execution of a diplomatic protocol.
              We need the "Monroe Doctrine", let there be the Putin doctrine and the corresponding funds to it (let the oligarchs throw off), and to the funds of the action program for each neighboring country, the same manuals that are now successfully used by Russia's enemies.
              They come to the near abroad of Russia to fight, and there they meet a thieving, "multi-vector" :)) elite and loose Russian pensioners. Lafa !! why here. So their unpretentious and absolutely formulaic schemes are rolled out. And the result is simply brilliant for them and always disastrous for Russia.
              1. Aag
                Aag 13 August 2020 20: 09
                0
                Quote: Halpat
                Quote: AAG
                "Belarus is lost, right before our eyes" ...
                Similar thoughts crept up when only Mezentsev, the ex-governor of the Irkutsk region, was sent there
                .For it was considered a "well-deserved rest" ..

                Well, Mr. Mezentsev is not only and not just the ex-governor of the Irkutsk region.
                And not immediately from the governors got to the ambassador. He is from St. Petersburg. Not from the “narrow circle of limited people” (c) :)) but from those close to this “circle”.
                So while in the near abroad they will appoint "a well-deserved rest" (for example, Zurabov, Mezentsev, and Chernomyrdin rest in peace to him), the result will be the same - a loss.
                We need fighters and "to the front", not "vacationers". At the same time, without a program and support, even a fighter will quickly slide down to the routine execution of a diplomatic protocol.
                We need the "Monroe Doctrine", let there be the Putin doctrine and the corresponding funds to it (let the oligarchs throw off), and to the funds of the action program for each neighboring country, the same manuals that are now successfully used by Russia's enemies.
                They come to the near abroad of Russia to fight, and there they meet a thieving, "multi-vector" :)) elite and loose Russian pensioners. Lafa !! why here. So their unpretentious and absolutely formulaic schemes are rolled out. And the result is simply brilliant for them and always disastrous for Russia.

                And I mean the same. Thank you, unrolled. hi
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      3. RUSS
        RUSS 13 August 2020 14: 50
        -2
        Quote: Pereira
        And one more question. While the opposition paid by the West is taking to the streets, what is the opposition paid by Russia doing at this time? Or is it not by definition? Then the house really disappeared.

        What is this nonsense? Solovyov and Kiseleva reconsidered? For your every Belarusian paid by the State Department and Poland?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 13 August 2020 14: 52
          +3
          This is not my opinion. This is what I see and hear in the comments - rioters paid for by the Poles.
          I don't watch Solovyov and Kiselyov. But without them enough.
          But if they are all lying, where is the pro-Russian opposition? Or is the pro-Russian opposition nonsense?
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 13 August 2020 14: 58
            0
            Quote: Pereira
            This is not my opinion. This is what I see and hear in the comments - rioters paid for by the Poles.
            I don't watch Solovyov and Kiselyov. But without them enough.
            But if they are all lying, where is the pro-Russian opposition? Or is the pro-Russian opposition nonsense?

            Unfortunately or there is no joy in the pro-Russian opposition in Belarus, there are people who are well-disposed towards Russia and that's it, young people are looking at the West, do you know how many Belarusians have left for the West and the United States?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 13 August 2020 15: 19
              +7
              That's the trouble. There is an organized two-stalk power, there is an organized pro-Western opposition.
              And it is they who decide how to live on, continue as it was, or the Ukrainian scenario. And the well-disposed ... do not take part in the showdown, but will accept the winner.
              That is, whoever wins, Russia has already lost.
            2. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 16: 14
              -3
              so you can look west and treat Russia well
        2. CSKA
          CSKA 13 August 2020 15: 15
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          What is this nonsense? Solovyov and Kiseleva reconsidered?

          What nonsense are you talking about? Have you ever heard what Solovyov is talking about RB now? he throws mud at Lukashenka.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 03
            -1
            Quote: CSKA
            Have you ever heard what Solovyov is talking about RB now?

            God forbid.
        3. bar
          bar 13 August 2020 15: 57
          0
          For your every Belarusian paid by the State Department and Poland?

          Why pay everyone? It is enough to pay 5 percent, they will find another 5 percent of stupid, vigorous young, and these 10% will be quite satisfied with what they have arranged.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 13 August 2020 14: 23
      11
      Yes you! These are Georgians, ukrointsy and other anti-Belarusian elements again! We made our way to the factory, changed into overalls and chant!
      1. Region68
        Region68 13 August 2020 15: 27
        0
        From Khabarovsk they darted))
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 34
        -1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        ukrointsy and other anti-Belarusian elements!

        Ukrainians can be immediately distinguished, they would have jumped and shouted "Who does not jump that Moskal."
      3. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 05
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Yes you! These are Georgians, ukrointsy and other anti-Belarusian elements again! We made our way to the factory, changed into overalls and chant!

        Also, the convicts, they forgot about the convicts.
    4. apro
      apro 13 August 2020 14: 26
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      Where is the massive support of 80% of the leader of the nation?

      Believe it or not ... they work.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 13 August 2020 14: 51
        -3
        Quote: apro
        Quote: Observer2014
        Where is the massive support of 80% of the leader of the nation?

        Believe it or not ... they work.

        They work in law enforcement agencies, and some of them support the protests.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 13 August 2020 18: 06
          0
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: apro
          Quote: Observer2014
          Where is the massive support of 80% of the leader of the nation?

          Believe it or not ... they work.

          They work in law enforcement agencies, and some of them support the protests.

          Ahaha))) exactly. They just have a coefficient of 1k 1000 when voting
      2. cmax
        cmax 13 August 2020 15: 00
        +6
        Apro quote = apro] Believe it or not ... they work. [/ Quote]
        God, where do you come from. Black looks white for you. Every evening we see Omon "work" with clubs and rubber bullets (for now). See what people are posting on telegram channels about this work. That's all your electorate in black uniform. My 83-year-old mom is already ready to go out looking at this horror. More than 7000 people got bred. As I write, cars are honking outside the window in support of the women who are standing along the street in defense of peaceful protests. Correctly BELAZ left, today MAZ has already stopped from great love for the leader of all Belarusians. Conduct the elections honestly ... without early voting (where there is cheating and replacement of forms), with observers who can see an honest count with the presentation of ballots to everyone. If the AHL wins it honestly, everyone will accept it.
      3. UserGun
        UserGun 13 August 2020 15: 30
        0
        They work in such a way that they cannot even intercede for Daragov ?! Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
        1. dali
          dali 14 August 2020 11: 31
          0
          Quote: UserGun
          They work in such a way that they cannot even intercede for Daragov ?! Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
          The brain is turned on, those who voted for Lukashenka are not at all happy with this type.
          I will paraphrase the saying "they vote not for the opposition, but against (Lukashenko, Putin, etc.)":

          They vote for Lukashenko, and against the opposition (US State Department, Westerners, rear-wheel drive, Geyropa, Polish non-salesmen, etc.)
    5. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 14: 28
      +6
      Well, let's ruin everything if the efficiency of the enterprise is not very high, and where will people work? new jobs already created? retraining centers?
      Will they fall apart, xs, can the demonstrators work? xs. And specialists - turners, milling operators, welders, will find work in the Russian Federation, it is necessary to build not only the Crimean bridge, but roads, airplanes, ships. And there will be, well, not "powerful" but quite normal wages and prospects.
      What are you bastards Protestants doing with their country ???? !!!!
      1. bar
        bar 13 August 2020 15: 59
        -1
        Well, let's ruin everything if the efficiency of the enterprise is not very high, and where will people work?

        With the rest of the savings, they will buy lace panties, and pick strawberries on plots in Poland.
        1. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 16: 10
          -3
          Everyone has already seen the race in Chinese lace panties to Europe - yes - it's funny! and where and when did you lose your brains?
          It's a pity - very sorry for the Belarusians! I thought that the Belarusians are on a rake proffie, but here it is.
          1. bar
            bar 13 August 2020 16: 12
            0
            I really feel sorry for the Belarusians. But the "next generation" it is, you can't put your brains in them.
    6. loki565
      loki565 13 August 2020 14: 39
      +2
      Well, apparently there is such a powerful salary and prospects in life as hell for that plant.

      Of course, it will be more profitable to pick strawberries in Poland.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 37
        +1
        Quote: loki565
        Of course, it will be more profitable to pick strawberries in Poland.

        They fly by, the Sumerians are already sitting on strawberries.
    7. Kisa
      Kisa 13 August 2020 16: 28
      +2
      Well, at least they could organize on camera - "the director and organization of the plant of the enterprise expresses support for the legally elected" - in a closed safe zone and not on the street where they can not understand - but there is no such thing either - think
  • Vend
    Vend 13 August 2020 14: 10
    11
    Quote: apro
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

    The question is who paid? Any strikes have a negative impact on the country's economy. It is easy to bring down the economy, it is difficult to raise it later.
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 14: 19
      +3
      Yes, the costs are minimal - they will pay off tenfold simply by selling the enterprise for scrap! And then what? Do the strikers think about it?
      1. Vend
        Vend 13 August 2020 15: 06
        0
        Quote: Sergey_G_M
        Yes, the costs are minimal - they will pay off tenfold simply by selling the enterprise for scrap! And then what? Do the strikers think about it?

        Here I am about the same, the initiative for strikes does not come from outside. The Belarusians would not ruin the economy of their country. So that they don't talk about the economy of Belarus, but it is better than the economy of Ukraine.
      2. WTF1980
        WTF1980 13 August 2020 15: 09
        +3
        Well, not necessarily. Out of 10 thousand employees, 9 or 9,5 thousand will be fired, and the rest will collect some sort of Volkswagen.
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 13 August 2020 14: 32
    +4
    Remember the history of Russia at the beginning of the last century, when money for strikes and strikes in 2003-2005. were allocated by the owners themselves. The same situation is now with Balaz, perhaps we will see a continuation. The directors of these enterprises consider the enterprises their own and want to take them over, but the dad does not. So much for the strike ...
    The elite of White Russia is also amazed, like our elite, though not to a lesser extent. But now she has a chance to rise and become rich like ours or the Western oligarchs, so they do not miss their chance, suddenly it will turn out.
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 15: 06
      +4
      What is the elite for? What are you talking about? And what does the elite have to do with this shit? We are all deceived by telling in the media and on the Internet that this is the elite! Nighera is not etita! this is shit! And we don't need to push this shit through the media!
      1. Aag
        Aag 13 August 2020 17: 52
        0
        Quote: Sergey_G_M
        What is the elite for? What are you talking about? And what does the elite have to do with this shit? We are all deceived by telling in the media and on the Internet that this is the elite! Nighera is not etita! this is shit! And we don't need to push this shit through the media!

        Here we have an elite so elite! ...
  • Alien From
    Alien From 13 August 2020 14: 38
    -4
    They were advised by their non-brothers, let the Belarusians screw up their country ...
  • Civil
    Civil 13 August 2020 14: 41
    +5
    1. Probably the State Department paid the workers.
    2. These are workers, and the main people are the administration for Lukashenka.
    3. It was the Poles who shot a dummy film in Gdansk.
    \
    How far can you go by watering Belarusians? How then to make excuses?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 13 August 2020 16: 06
      +1
      Nobody paid and will not pay the extras workers. The organizers are paid.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 13 August 2020 14: 45
    -2
    For example, I did not see that they are against the Old Man! In my opinion, on the contrary, they support him!
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 14 August 2020 00: 20
      +1
      For example, I did not see that they are against the Old Man! In my opinion, on the contrary, they support him!

      Chanting "Go away!" support?
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 14 August 2020 00: 42
        0
        Or maybe "Come." Now you can sculpt misinformation without any problems, too much is at stake. Therefore, all this Nekstavskaya bullshit is a fake on a fake, which leads the people into a stupor and they generally cease to understand anything. Then they showed the aunt, who was fucking with propaganda of the opposition. So she bluntly said, I can not do anything, neither work, nor get out .. I go here every day!
        If it were not for the massive propaganda, the Belarusians would have creaked at their father for another hundred years and lived peacefully, and then suddenly their eyes opened? Who gave them a wake-up call?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 14 August 2020 09: 31
          0
          Here the aunt was shown the opposition, who was crazy about propaganda. So she said bluntly, I can't do anything, neither work, don't get out .. I come here every day!

          This is actually quite a normal state of a person living in a country in which there are shocks. Adequate to the situation.
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 14 August 2020 11: 10
            0
            I don't know there is nothing normal here. Manipulation of the consciousness of the citizens of Belarus is evident! And it is clear who is behind this, who feeds the opposition, who directs it.
            And the crowd does not even realize in a fever what it is doing.
            And when he wakes up in the ruins of his homeland, it will be too late and then the search for the guilty will begin.
            And it will turn out to be Russia,
            because she supported Lukashenka. So Russophobia will grow and everything will repeat itself as if on tracing paper. The mechanism is worked out, it works, so why change it ... White stripes, flowers ... women, accusations of violence against the security forces ... how familiar it is.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 14 August 2020 13: 28
              0
              I don't know nothing is normal here

              Have you ever been in any extreme situation? Or don't you get up from the sofa at all?
              And the crowd does not even realize in a fever what it is doing.

              Listen, do the militsia and the authorities realize what they are doing? Or is it the crowd alone that creates?
              , accusations of violence against security officials.

              At the same time, in a fairly obvious excessive violence of the African type. What is happening there now should not be anywhere! Should the police also be held accountable before the law for their actions?
              1. Campanella
                Campanella 14 August 2020 15: 43
                0
                And we are with you?
                Let's start with the fact that the ever-memorable America is more rigidly dispersed and often introduces military units for this.
                So there is no need to drive a blizzard about supposedly superviolence.
                I remember how Russians were soaked under the approval of the West, was that normal in your opinion? Is this not Africa?
                The police are doing their job.
                If the KGB of the USSR would have fulfilled its own before 1991, then there would not be all this blood in the former Soviet republics and millions of Russian guys saved their lives.
                And about the sofa, do not judge the baby by yourself!
                There was a time he was stupid out of inexperience, he supported Yeltsin in 1991, the White House "held" the defense, tell how it was?
                Then the people did not know at all what "Western democracy" was for other states, we believed that the USA was the light at the end.
                And then their rat essence became clear, but the locomotive had already left.
                Here's a new test for Belarusians.
                Lukashenka is not a gift, of course, he behaves rigidly, but the situation is such, there is no other way.
                Later I thought it would have been better if they banged us at the White House, and the country would have survived, but then I really realized that this would not have helped, the pendulum had already swung, it was necessary to stand earlier.
                Therefore, Old Man is the last chance to save Belarus from disaster.
                People just need to be patient. This is my opinion and of course I am not an oracle or a prophet.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 14 August 2020 18: 10
                  0

                  Lukashenka is not a gift, of course, he behaves rigidly, but the situation is such, there is no other way.

                  Your not a gift has gone too far out of stupidity and will no longer hold the country along the way.
                  Later I thought it would have been better if they banged us at the White House, and the country would have survived, but then I really realized that this would not have helped, the pendulum had already swung, it was necessary to stand earlier.

                  Now, the KGB would not have helped. what is one KGB against all party assets?
                  1. Campanella
                    Campanella 14 August 2020 22: 47
                    +1
                    Of course Lukashenka went too far. But there is no life without mistakes.

                    The KGB would have helped, but it was (the leadership) part of the Politburo.
                    That is, the relationship was not entirely official, but partly comradely, and people were not selected according to professional principles.
                    Ligachev brought Yeltsin, who knew how to throw dust in his eyes.
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach 15 August 2020 11: 38
                      0
                      Of course Lukashenka went too far. But there is no life without mistakes.

                      And mistakes sometimes have to be answered, and sometimes those mistakes have dramatic consequences.
                      I'm looking at 3 protests. Ukrainian Maidan where Yanukovosch did not disperse outright militants, they just stood for months and looked at them. It was there that it was necessary to act as now in Belarus.
                      On these fools who beat up non-resisting people, not really thinking about what it will backfire on them personally and the whole country.
                      The ideal option was with the protest movements in Moscow in 2012, if I'm not mistaken. But the whole point is that that protest did not have a real mass and really broad support.
                    2. Campanella
                      Campanella 15 August 2020 14: 32
                      0
                      They were peaceful even in Ukraine at first and did not touch anyone there, but as they say, let me put my finger in, and then everything will be drawn.
                      And there were agreements, now Lukashenka is also being bred poorly, to surrender, goodbye, Belarus.
                      It is clear that the dad did a lot of things himself, that it all happened, but again show the one who was not mistaken in this life?
                      At the age of 12, quite a few people came out in the region of hundreds of thousands, I think so in Belarus now less came out.
                      It's another matter that this is in Moscow, but revolutions are made mainly in the capitals.
                    3. alexmach
                      alexmach 15 August 2020 18: 51
                      0
                      They were peaceful in Ukraine at first and did not touch anyone there, but as they say, let me stick my finger in, and then everything will be drawn

                      No, they were not peaceful, as early as December 13, skirmishes began and at 14 they went full tin. After that, in general, it was possible to declare a curfew and disperse even peaceful rallies, which covered the militants. Mirnyak had to be misunderstood. To neutralize the provacitors. And they, on the contrary, looked at what should not be looked at, and at the same time the degree of violence rose. Well, we looked at it in the end.
                      At the age of 12, quite a few people came out in the region of hundreds of thousands, I think so in Belarus now less came out.

                      Come on, to Bolotnaya? it cannot be. In addition, then there was a much more massive pro-government rally.
                    4. Campanella
                      Campanella 15 August 2020 20: 25
                      0
                      Yes, Bolotnaya is estimated
                      the liberals themselves are true.
                    5. alexmach
                      alexmach 15 August 2020 21: 44
                      0
                      It seems to me that this is clearly an overestimate. The police (or the police?), If my memory serves me correctly, estimated at 5 thousand people. The truth is most likely somewhere in the middle of these two estimates.
                    6. Campanella
                      Campanella 16 August 2020 09: 42
                      0
                      Probably so, but visually, there were clearly more of them than in Minsk in my opinion. I remember 91 years old, we stood in a fairly dense crowd near the White House, but what was it in comparison with those who did not go there to defend Yeltsin, a drop in the ocean.
                    7. alexmach
                      alexmach 16 August 2020 11: 46
                      0
                      About where we started there above. I lived in Ukraine for a long time, including during the revolutions taking place there, I did not take direct part in them, I worked, but the feeling of complete disorientation during these events is quite familiar to me, especially the first time it was new.
                    8. Campanella
                      Campanella 16 August 2020 13: 13
                      -1
                      Disorienting people is part of the strategy. And now they got up in Belarus, but for what they themselves do not understand.
                      After all, the point is always in the details.
                      But it turns out that the opposition itself decides for the people, without receiving their approval. I'm not even saying that this opposition has no program either.
                      And to say that free elections will solve the problems of the people is populism and stupidity.
                    9. alexmach
                      alexmach 16 August 2020 16: 36
                      0
                      And now they got up in Belarus, but for what they themselves do not understand

                      in my opinion they have very specific requirements.
                      But it turns out that the opposition itself decides for the people, without receiving their approval.

                      Yes, it turns out that spontaneous leaders come with random slogans ... or with not entirely random ones. And all because the government has become insignificant and unable to represent the interests of society.
                      And to say that free elections will solve the problems of the people is populism and stupidity.

                      In the same way, they are not solved by riot police just beating passers-by.
                    10. Campanella
                      Campanella 16 August 2020 16: 49
                      -1
                      Are you an idealist, where is the program?
                      What is its essence?
                      So far I have seen only the desire of the opposition to move to the west, and this is a loss of sovereignty.
                    11. alexmach
                      alexmach 16 August 2020 17: 07
                      +1
                      Are you an idealist, where is the program?

                      Postmodernist rather. Where is the program? Does Lukashenka have a program? Well, besides sitting in power and stories about stability? Does he have a development program for Belarus? Irregularity? Or what else is his program?

                      People are not so stupid as to change an adequate person for a dummy. Another thing is when the choice is only between two inadequate pacifiers.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 13 August 2020 14: 53
    0
    Who loves to arrange color revolutions here?
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 13 August 2020 16: 36
      -2
      Quote: 1976AG
      Who loves to arrange color revolutions here?

      we know who - our beloved here in the Soviet Union until recently. then the money ran out. ))))
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 August 2020 15: 00
    0
    Well, what can I say. ... goodbye to the remnants of the economy, we will finish the country with our own hands! The experience of the ue-roy is good enough for Belarusians to see even small crumbs. A new proverb will soon come into use “in poverty, but not offended!” For there will be no one to be offended, except for themselves. ..
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 14 August 2020 00: 44
      0
      But the outskirts will be more fun in the camp of fools, the addition is coming! It will be warm, in the company it is easier.
  • Veleslav17
    Veleslav17 13 August 2020 15: 10
    0
    YOU ONLY HAVE TO DESTROY AND DESTROY EVERYTHING ... NOT BORED. THE PEOPLE OF BELARUS CHOSE TIKHANOVSKAYA. PEOPLE OF BELARUS CRAZY GRANDFATHER CHEATED AND STEALED THE CHOICE. PEOPLE GO OUT FOR A REVOLUTION - THEY GO OUT TO SHOW THAT THEY CANNOT ACCEPT THE CHEASES OF THIS POWER ANYMORE. we are Belarusians - have chosen a new president
    1. Evgeny Ivanov_5
      Evgeny Ivanov_5 13 August 2020 16: 19
      +5
      YES CHOOSE WHO YOU WANT. AT LEAST DURA TIKHANOVSKAYA AT LEAST POWDER AT LEAST SAAKASHVILI AT ANYONE. JUST DO NOT DRINK BECAUSE YOU SHOULD RUSSIA A BILLION AND SHE'RE GUILTY FOR YOUR PROBLEMS. WE START ON THEM. YOU STILL, THE WEST IS NOTHING TO OFFER BUT THE WAR WITH RUSSIA, LGBT AND CHERNOZEM. I also found SWITZERLAND.
      1. dali
        dali 14 August 2020 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
        YOU STILL, THE WEST IS NOTHING TO OFFER BUT THE WAR WITH RUSSIA, LGBT AND CHERNOZEM. I also found SWITZERLAND.

        Do Belarusians also have black soil and where is it? belay
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 14 August 2020 00: 48
      0
      Veleslav, fucked up or something completely?
      Why are you completely crazy there? Where are the voting results? Prove more that the stuffing was? Did you count the ballots?
      You have nothing to shake your cowards for all Belarusians !!
  • antivirus
    antivirus 13 August 2020 15: 11
    +6
    Likewise, the miners sat for half a year at whose expense were the gatherings?
    right now, rejoice at the won freedom
    businesspeople will demolish the buildings and build a casino with brothels - and they will do the right thing

    it's bad that the demolition of the FSU industry is not in the interests of the Russian Federation, but in favor of China and the EU
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 14 August 2020 22: 50
      0
      But freedom will be full of pants, even fill up. Feed yourself as you want, you are free in this!)))
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 13 August 2020 15: 50
    0
    Apparently they dream of sharing the fate of Antonov and KRAZ. Life doesn’t teach anything. I’m not generated by foresight. They don’t know what happened to Ukraine? what a massive dullness. and after all, then they will whine. when prices for everything soar at times. and they will buy potatoes in Latvia. I really feel sorry for people. After all, some really do not know what they are doing. and those who know rub their hands and continue to write in their ears ...
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 13 August 2020 17: 40
      +2
      I like the fate of ZIL better
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 13 August 2020 18: 28
      +6
      Quote: vkl.47
      Apparently they dream of sharing the fate of Antonov and KRAZ. Life doesn’t teach anything. I’m not generated by foresight. They don’t know what happened to Ukraine? what a massive dullness. and after all, then they will whine. when prices for everything soar at times. and they will buy potatoes in Latvia. I really feel sorry for people. After all, some really do not know what they are doing. and those who know rub their hands and continue to write in their ears ...

      It is often said that our industry was “ruined” by Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais. Yes, of course, they made their "undeniable contribution" to the cause of its destruction. But the MAJOR enterprises were destroyed UNDER PUTIN. Here's a list:

      Moskvich Plant (AZLK) (genus 1930 - killed by 2002)
      Factory "Red Proletariat" (genus 1857 - killed 2010)
      Izhevsk Motorcycle Plant (genus 1928 - killed by 2009)
      Irbit Motorcycle Plant (Ural) (genus 1941 - present in a coma after being wounded)
      Pavlovsk Tool Plant (genus 1820 - killed by 2011)
      Factory "Record" (genus 1957 - killed 1996)
      Lipetsk Tractor Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
      Altai Tractor Plant (Rubtsovsk) (genus 1942 - killed by 2010)
      Shipyard Avangard (Petrozavodsk) (genus 1939 - killed by 2010)
      Shipyard OJSC "HC Dalzavod" (Vladivostok) (genus 1895 - killed 2009)
      Radio plant PO Vega (Berdsk, Novosibirsk region) (genus 1946 - killed 1999)
      Saratov Aviation Plant (genus 1931– killed by 2010)
      Omsk Transport Engineering Plant (genus 1896 - killed by 2009)
      Chelyabinsk watch factory "Lightning" (genus 1947 - killed 2009)
      Uglich watch factory "The Seagull" (genus 1938 - killed by 2009)
      Penza watch factory "Dawn" (genus 1935 - killed 1999)
      The second Moscow watch factory “Glory” (genus 1924 - killed by 2006)
      Chistopol watch factory “Vostok” (genus 1941– killed by 2010)
      Moscow Machine-Tool Plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze (genus 1932 - killed by 2007)
      Stankomash Plant (Chelyabinsk) (genus 1935 - killed by 2009)
      Ryazan Machine Tool Plant (genus 1949 - killed by 2008)
      Kronstadt Marine Plant (genus 1858 - killed by 2005)
      Kuzbasselement Plant (genus 1942 - killed by 2008)
      Irkutsk Radio Plant (genus 1945 - killed by 2007)
      Precision casting plant “Centrolit” (Lipetsk) (genus 1963 - killed by 2009)
      Khor Biochem plant (Khabarovsk Territory) (genus 1982 - killed by 1997)
      Tomsk Instrument Plant (genus 1961 - killed by 2007)
      Sivinit Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1970 - killed by 2004)
      Krasnoyarsk TV Factory (genus 1952 - killed by 2003)
      Dynamo Plant (Moscow) (genus 1897 - killed by 2009)
      Oryol plant managing computers named. K.N. Rudneva (genus 1968 - killed 2006)
      Orenburg Hardware Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
      Khabarovsk plant "EVGO" (genus 2000 - killed 2009)
      Ulyanovsk Radio Tube Plant (genus 1959 - killed by 2003)
      Plant them. Kozitsky (St. Petersburg) (genus 1853 - present in a coma after being wounded)
      Sibelektrostal Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1952 - killed by 2008)
      Orenburg silk fabric factory “Orenburg Textile” (genus 1972 - killed by 2004)
      Barysh factory them. Gladysheva (Ulyanovsk Region) (genus 1825 - killed by 2005)
      Flax Association them. I.D. Zvorykina (Kostroma) (genus 1939 - killed by 2011)
      Kamyshinsky cotton mill them. Kosygina (Volgograd Region) (genus 1955 - present in a coma after being wounded)
      Trekhgornaya manufactory (Moscow) (genus 1799 - present in a coma after being wounded)
      Far Eastern Radio Plant (Komsomolsk-on-Amur) (genus 1993 - killed by 2009)
      Bicycle plant (Yoshkar-Ola) (genus 1950 - killed 2006)
      Bicycle plant (Nizhny Novgorod) (genus 1940 - killed 2007)
      Perm Bicycle Plant (genus 1939 - killed by 2006)
      Proletarian Plant (St. Petersburg) (genus 1826 - present in a coma after being wounded)
      Baltic Plant (genus 1856 - killed by 2011)
      Sibtyazhmash Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1941 - killed by 2011)
      Khimprom Plant (Volgograd) (genus 1931 - killed by 2010)
      Irkutsk driveshaft plant (genus 1974 - killed by 2004)
      Tchaikovsky precision engineering plant (Perm Territory) (genus 1978 - killed by 1998)
      Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) (genus 1807 - killed by 2012)
      The Ural Heavy Engineering Plant UZTM Uralmash is finishing off ...
      and about 78 of thousands of plants and factories that died in an unequal battle with market occupiers.
      ps There is still, besides mechanical engineering, education, science, medicine and more. There are “achievements” of the same scale and character.
      1. dali
        dali 14 August 2020 12: 00
        +1
        I just decided to look at it:
        Quote: RUSS
        Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) (genus 1807 - killed by 2012)

        Even your favorite wikipedia says this:
        On August 12, 2013 NPO Izhmash OJSC was renamed into Kalashnikov Concern OJSC.
        From other sources:
        Net profit in 2016 2,35 billion rubles.
        And here is a link with photos from 2013:
        https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/38934/

        I will not say that everything is fine, many factories have closed ...
        But there is another list for yours:

        https://smart-lab.ru/blog/514717.php
        .
        Kamyshin Cotton Mill named after Kosygina (Volgograd region) (born 1955 - in a coma after being wounded):
        Alive and healthy. Quote: In the Volgograd region, a complete modernization of the spinning shop of JSC Kamyshinsky Textile has been completed, which will allow the enterprise to produce up to 2,5 million tons of fabric per month and increase the processing of cotton fiber to 1,4 thousand tons of raw materials per month. According to the government of the Volgograd region, the new production facilities will provide the company with up to 20% of the cotton processing market in Russia.
        .

        This is not counting the newly built ones.

        So you are more likely NERUSS than RUSS
  • Roman246810
    Roman246810 13 August 2020 15: 55
    +1
    As some clever people told us here - they say it's 1% of the Nazis in the streets organizing riots .. and all the rest - supporters of Lukashenka - just sit at home ..

    Well, at this plant, it just so happened, all those worked completely - from 1% .. All of them - some "Nazis" apparently .. they were picked up by a specialist ..))
  • New Year day
    New Year day 13 August 2020 16: 17
    +4
    Quote: apro
    and who advised them ...

    Lukashenko, his stupidity
  • Maxim L
    Maxim L 13 August 2020 16: 20
    +2
    By your logic, all workers are US spies. Infa 100%. And here how is it, ordinary Belarusians hate Luka. It can not be. Yeah, everyone who goes out on the streets is bandits, alcoholics and people bought by Europe or the USA
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 14 August 2020 00: 26
      0
      On the other hand, I just spoke with a Belarusian friend - he says he is ready to beat the protesters himself ...
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 17 August 2020 15: 24
        -2
        Only such houses are bold. There were 200-300 thousand protesters in Minsk on Sunday. Buses were taken to the pro-government rally from all over the country. And then they just scored 5-10 thousand. Well, where is 80% of Luke ??? Everything is already clear to everyone. If you look at who was taken to his rally, you can immediately see that people clearly do not work in IT or culture. The marginals are solid. Or just collective farmers
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 17 August 2020 16: 53
          0
          Such only houses are bold

          Or on the Internet, as you are. He said everything directly and honestly as it is. "I was in Minsk, in the afternoon on business, I saw only a few protesters - they will climb out by the veche. I would have taken it straight and" hit ", yes still small"
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 16 August 2020 13: 41
      0
      No, not spies, just fools!
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 13 August 2020 17: 07
    +3
    The Chinese comrades did not teach Lukashenka anything. You can't anger the working class. But also to be nice. Lukashenka can only walk along the edge of a knife and not break even more firewood. And stop calling them sheep. I'm also a shepherd.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 13 August 2020 17: 11
    0
    It became known that the so-called "Italian strike" (when people come to work, but refuse to work - until the requirements are met)

    So it seems no. An Italian strike is when you perform your duties so thoroughly that if you have it prescribed that lunch is at 12, then you will go to it exactly at 12 no matter what is in production, and in no case do nothing about anything spelled out in the contract.
  • cmax
    cmax 13 August 2020 19: 36
    -2
    Apro no, they are against this. This is just one plot !!!

    https://auto.onliner.by/2020/08/12/zhestkoe-zaderzhanie-motociklistov-v-uruche-popalo-na-video

    Imagine yourself in the shoes of this motorcyclist. Although you may be a masochist. Welcome to Belarus.
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 13 August 2020 21: 00
    +1
    Can organize excursions around the plant for the strikers. Antonov to Kiev ... having previously issued an "indefinite leave at your own expense"? Whoever wants to work, let him return, whoever wants to "go on strike for the victory of world democracy" - let him stay on the "not stale".
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  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 14 August 2020 07: 55
    +1
    Quote: apro
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

    It is unlikely that they were advised, since they live in their own country, and they know better than others how it can threaten them.
    A fair calculation will also give nothing: well, not 84% voted for him, but 40% - still the majority. They support the street. What this will result in is unknown.
    But the fact that Lukashenka got not only Russia, the West, but also his own people is a fact.
    Even in his own country, no one wants to protect him, except for loyal (yet?) Law enforcement agencies.
    In the medium term, the situation is more than serious.
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 14 August 2020 09: 03
    0
    Quote: apro
    The workers decided to destroy Belaz? And who advised them ...

    Well, as if nothing terrible happens in 10 days. Will get less salary
  • Hermann
    Hermann 13 August 2020 13: 58
    23
    Do they understand that with opposition the plant will most likely be closed and they will leave?
    1. apro
      apro 13 August 2020 14: 01
      18
      Quote: Herman
      Do they understand that with opposition the plant will most likely be closed and they will leave?

      And why understand. When there are beautiful slogans. Motion picture ... and they will also give cookies ..
      1. prior
        prior 13 August 2020 14: 21
        +3
        "I don't want to hunch back in my own beds, I want Polish, I want for zlotys, I want from morning to evening!
        Want Want want..."
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 40
          +1
          Quote: prior
          Want Want want..."

          I want to be the outskirts of Lyakhov.
        2. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 13 August 2020 14: 48
          0
          I want money but I don't want to work!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 42
      +2
      Quote: Herman
      Do they understand that with opposition the plant will most likely be closed and they will leave?

      In Molodechno, it was so after the last elections.
    3. Maxim L
      Maxim L 13 August 2020 16: 21
      +3
      So why quarrel with Russia? The people hate Luka, not Russia. If the Russians now helped to throw off Luka, the Belarusians would carry Russians in their arms. Defending Luka, the Russians very much spoil their image among the majority of Belarusians.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 16 August 2020 13: 36
        0
        Throwing off Luka is not a problem, he himself will leave sooner or later. I see no construct. Throw off, so that the henchman of the West becomes the president of Belarus? Why do we need this?
        1. Maxim L
          Maxim L 17 August 2020 15: 42
          -1
          Launching Russia will work and put his protege. Agree with 2 generals. They will arrest Luka. Show all his atrocities. They will say that Russia helped with information. And voila, almost all Belarusians adore Russia. But no, I don't want to. We need to support the person who tortures people. And then wonder why Belarusians fell out of love with Russia
          PS I have a guy at work who loves the USSR very much. He would probably really like to become part of Russia. Or, at worst, would not mind. But even he doesn't love Luca anymore. He's just really committed too many crimes in the last month. Only the darkest Belarusians are still behind him (there are no more than 10-20% of them. Depending on the locality)
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 17 August 2020 18: 13
            0
            You don't even understand what will happen then! Russia and so spread rot on all. The front, and then there is interference in internal affairs. The West will stand up and will never recognize such a choice with all the consequences.
            So you have to think for yourself.
    4. Karaul73
      Karaul73 13 August 2020 17: 08
      +1
      And if the opposition is pro-Russian? You exclude this option?
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 17 August 2020 18: 16
        0
        Excluded. We do not work with the opposition; the West works with it.
        Vaughn Tikhanovskaya proposes to unite around herself, she will hold elections and the West will unconditionally accept them, she said! That's where she got such confidence?))) A selling woman, sits in Lithuania and sings to the tune of the special services.
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    1. Volodin
      Volodin 13 August 2020 14: 03
      35
      Quote: Reagan's ghost
      lovers of oligarchic-feudal rule

      That is, if the point of view of one of the readers does not correlate with yours, then these are "lovers of oligarchic-feudal rule and the Olgin trolls"? As the classic used to say: "When hanging labels on others, do not forget about having your own."
    2. Andr_38
      Andr_38 13 August 2020 14: 04
      -21 qualifying.
      Quote: Reagan's Ghost
      How many lovers of oligarchic-feudal rule are present on this site. And the Olginsky trolls are working out their well and the old conspiracy theorists, who, at their last breath, are still studying the shamefully collapsed USSR. Stop, this is 80% of all visitors IN ....

      These are not Holga trolls, they are most likely fans of the communists and their sympathizers.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 August 2020 14: 10
        +7
        Well, it’s even funny.
        What's the difference WHO says / writes, only what he says / writes matters!
      2. tatra
        tatra 13 August 2020 14: 19
        -4
        Actors and singers have fans, while politicians and political parties have supporters. And yes, it is natural that for the overthrow of Lukashenka, the Western Russophobes are the enemies of the Communists.
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 13 August 2020 14: 21
        +6
        Quote: Andr_38
        these are most likely fans of the communists and their sympathizers.
        for the sake of truth, thanks to these communists, you do not work 12 hours 7 days a week
        1. Andr_38
          Andr_38 13 August 2020 14: 41
          -8
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          for the sake of truth, thanks to these communists, you do not work 12 hours 7 days a week

          This is where they work like that, may I ask? Apparently, wherever there were no communists born? laughing
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 13 August 2020 15: 08
            +6
            Quote: Andr_38
            This is where they work like that, may I ask? Apparently, wherever there were no communists born?

            that's why they don't work hard because of the communists, they urgently had to change all relations
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 14 August 2020 00: 31
          -2
          for the sake of truth, thanks to these communists, you do not work 12 hours 7 days a week

          This is how? Is this what?

          I doubt very much.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 43
        -1
        Quote: Andr_38
        These are not Holga trolls, they are most likely fans of the communists and their sympathizers.

        You have made an interesting conclusion. But what kind of you will you be?
      5. major147
        major147 13 August 2020 14: 47
        0
        Quote: Andr_38
        These are not Holga trolls, they are most likely fans of the communists and their sympathizers.

        Not always...
    3. tatra
      tatra 13 August 2020 14: 15
      -2
      How many lovers to destroy and destroy, to arrange coups d'etat, never offering the country and the people a better alternative? Capture Belarus the enemies of the communists, they, like the Russian enemies of the communists, cowardly shrug off responsibility for the seizure of Russia / the USSR by the anti-Soviet clique, will also whine that they "have nothing to do with it", it is Lukashenko's Belarus that "shamefully collapsed."
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: tatra
        How many lovers to destroy and destroy, to arrange coups d'état, never offering the country and the people a better alternative?

        Why not. Vaughn Mr. Zelensky promised and offered a lot of things, but where is the best life and what is the alternative.
    4. Campanella
      Campanella 13 August 2020 14: 48
      0
      Reagan's ghost, how discerning you are, Kiev shell-shocked svidomo!)))
      Do not shake your herring here, give it to your necrophilic censor!
    5. Maverick78
      Maverick78 13 August 2020 15: 06
      +1
      And where do not oligarchs rule?) Well, except for Cuba, etc.
    6. Igoresha
      Igoresha 13 August 2020 15: 25
      +1
      How many lovers of oligarchic-feudal rule are present on this site?

      slave mentality since the collective farm and, earlier, feudal times ... well, how can it be without a master
    7. Maxim L
      Maxim L 13 August 2020 16: 30
      +2
      Also, such users love to write how smart they are, and everyone else is stupid. Just shocked by the comments on VO on the occasion of the elections. Almost no commentator has a close idea of ​​what is happening in Belarus
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 13: 59
    +1
    a few hundred out of 10 thousand? they will strike for a couple of days and stop, but the idea is correct. no need to throw Molotov at the police, but just go on strike, Lukash will certainly not leave, but they will bargain for an increased
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 13 August 2020 14: 04
      +5
      a few hundred out of 10 thousand?

      Look at the photo in the title of the article and at the video. Look carefully. There are not a few hundred there.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 August 2020 14: 13
        +2
        Now there is something to see and something to think about!
        So there will always be buzoters everywhere, the question is, who will support them and how?
        Then we will judge that there, cookies were handed out or people boiled above the limit.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 13 August 2020 14: 18
          +5
          I’m sitting here and reading some channel in a telegram (I don’t know who is controlling it), you only now and only found out about Belaz, and there the strikes are not the first day and today began in the morning.
          Right at this moment there is a whole wave of messages about strikes at various enterprises: Grodno-Azot, BelAZ, Belmedpreparaty, Belarusian State Philharmonic Society, JSC Grodnozhilstroy, Terrazit, Lidsky Market and the list is growing

          And photos are attached.
          People are also standing on the streets right now. And they express their solidarity with the detainees. And a lot of very interesting news comes from there. It seems to me that everything is just beginning there.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 August 2020 14: 25
            +3
            Quote: alexmach
            I'm sitting here and reading some channel in a telegram (I don't know who is controlled by whom), you only now and only found out about Belaz,

            Don't tell my horseshoes and watch / listen to various sources.
            It was clear right away that nothing ended there, in the long term ... but assessing what it would be, when it would be, it would not be right away. We must follow the development of events.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 13 August 2020 14: 36
              +4
              Well, so far these events are developing very, very seriously.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 13 August 2020 15: 01
                +2
                So everyone who thinks is able to perceive.
              2. Kisa
                Kisa 13 August 2020 16: 42
                +3
                the cockroach hastened with the inclusion of the Internet - a flurry of vidos about the cruelty of cops will now provoke a new wave of fighters. although without an Internet, their losses in trade and services are off scale
            2. Brturin
              Brturin 13 August 2020 14: 57
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              Don't tell my horseshoes and watch / listen to various sources.
              In the long run, it was immediately clear that nothing ended there ...

              The sources are as follows, there is a strike, there is no strike, but the situation in the economy does not act, the same Belaz - in the production of mining dump trucks. The output has been falling for 15 months in a row. In May 2020, another anti-record was updated: in a month, machine builders produced only 24 cars. A year earlier, the production reached 83 quarries, 2 years earlier - 100 machines. The main manufacturer in the industry is BELAZ. https://banki24.by/news/4229-ekonomika-lezhit-na-dne. I doubt that people want to ditch their factory, now every order counts, but the question is not for them, but for the management ... no matter how some may say, but "something is wrong in the Danish kingdom" ... but here's how to do it better neither the AHL nor its rivals really said ...
          2. Campanella
            Campanella 13 August 2020 15: 06
            0
            Gullible Belarusian people ...
            Those who came out clearly do not want to work at Belaz.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 13 August 2020 15: 39
              +5
              Maybe they just don't want to be able to beat them just like that?
              1. Campanella
                Campanella 16 August 2020 13: 33
                0
                They will not beat just like in the west! And not beat and kill for a child's pistol, for resistance to the police! Forward brothers Belarusians, to freedom!
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 August 2020 15: 45
        -3
        Quote: alexmach
        Look at the photo in the title of the article and at the video. Look carefully. There are not a few hundred there.

        It was a good plant. It's a shame.
    2. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 14: 09
      +6
      Lukash certainly will not leave, but they will bargain for themselves an increased

      Where will the money come from? From strikes?
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 14: 29
        -2
        They will not go on strike for months. a week and that's enough
        1. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 14: 44
          0
          A week? Bumps on the floor? A little pregnant?
          Have you worked at large enterprises at all? What a nafig week ?? !!!
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 13 August 2020 14: 49
            +1
            already said that the workers left at lunchtime and there was no production stoppage
    3. major147
      major147 13 August 2020 14: 48
      +5
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      salary bargains for themselves increased

      That is unlikely.....
      1. Sergey_G_M
        Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 14: 56
        -3
        It seems to me that Lukashenka deliberately let everyone look at these, After that, the police, no matter how they wet someone, will look like defenders and norms of guys (as I treat them)
        Regarding the police ... business, there is already an explanation for the stupid - why and how.
        Listen to the former operative for 5 seconds:
        1. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 13 August 2020 15: 01
          -4
          YouTube does not insert as I want _ democracy ebr you, rewind this video 20 seconds back
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 13 August 2020 15: 03
      +4
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      a few hundred out of 10 thousand? they will strike for a couple of days and stop, but the idea is correct. no need to throw Molotov at the police, but just go on strike, Lukash will certainly not leave, but they will bargain for an increased

      It is now known that a part of the workers of the Minsk Electrotechnical Plant named after V.I. Kozlova (METZ), at the moment the Zhabinka sugar plant has joined the strike. Also, people are leaving their jobs at the Minsk margarine plant. The Grodno Azot enterprise joined the strike. Institute of Chemistry of New Materials of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus.
    5. Maxim L
      Maxim L 13 August 2020 16: 35
      +7
      I was at the protests. I have never seen a Molotov cocktail. Maybe there was somewhere, but these are few. People came out simply because 80% of Luke was pissed off. When he really has no more than 20-30%. People stood next to me and everyone was indignant at this. If he wrote to himself at least 55%, the majority would have eaten. This 80% was the last straw. Well, then all the same tough began that he began to create. You have no idea what the security forces are doing in Belarus now. Mass grabbing of people, beating, intimidation. Even women are no longer spared. Complete tin is going on in the country. Even the most apolitical have woken up and I am thinking how to express my protest. True, the level of intimidation is colossal. Even my 31-year-old friend was afraid to leave their ENTRANCE the day before yesterday. Can you imagine how people were intimidated?
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 13 August 2020 14: 00
    28
    BelAZ is an export-oriented enterprise: in 2017, 95,7% of products were exported. More than 65% of products are sold in Russia.

    Employees of the former ZAZ and the dying Antonov, mentally with you!

    Judging by the protests from Minsk, symbols (Zmagar flags), people there want to go to Europe. And there is a high probability that after Luka, there will be a pro-Western president.
    Goodbye to the Customs Union, and hello to a market economy dominated by European goods. Hello Polish garden))
    1. halpat
      halpat 13 August 2020 14: 16
      +9
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Hello Polish garden))

      not only the garden! the gentlemen will give a hoe and a wheelbarrow ... Europe is still there.
      but apparently he got the mustachioed bulb so hard that people no longer think about it.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 13 August 2020 14: 36
        -3
        Quote: Halpat
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Hello Polish garden))

        not only the garden! the gentlemen will give a hoe and a wheelbarrow ... Europe is still there.
        but apparently he got the mustachioed bulb so hard that people no longer think about it.

        Yeah, that's 2021, a former employee of BELAZ