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Anatomy of a protest: who plays against Pushilin?

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It smelled of "zrada"



The struggle for power that has been smoldering in Donetsk since the assassination of the first head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, is undeniable and obvious. To one degree or another, rehabilitated ex-speaker of the DPR parliament Andrei Purgin and ex-commander of the Vostok battalion Aleksandr Khodakovsky are openly participating in it. Yevgeny Tinyansky, ex-Minister of Transport of the DPR Alexander Vaskovsky and Andrey Sofronov, ex-secretary of the People's Council of the DPR Aleksey Alexandrov Jr., aka Donetsk Aborigine, are quite openly opposed to Denis Pushilin.

But other participants in the struggle for the Donetsk throne try to stay in the shadows. For example, Deputy Information Minister Artyom Olkhin, who is still associated with the same Donetsk Aboriginal as a permanent source of inspiration and the author of the blog. Or his subordinate Maxim Gazizov, who was the administrator of the opposition telegram channel "InfaDnr" and under the name of Vladislav Sharakhov who writes various libels against the republics in the Ukrainian media, and now is the head of the channel "Witnesses of the DPR". Of course, such an activity could hardly have been carried out without the knowledge (and blessing?) Of the head of the Ministry of Information Igor Antipov.

Cross pollination


It is also curious how closely the telegram channels controlled by the Ministry of Information are on friendly terms with their colleagues who adhere to a not very friendly policy towards the government of the DPR. So, the official telegram channel of the Ministry of Information "DPR Online" directly calls "a permanent information partner" news aggregator "Donetsk Telegram", actively criticizing the authorities and not hesitating to use the masterpieces of Ukrainian propaganda as arguments.

Probably, we are talking not only about the "information partnership" with "Donetsk Telegram", but also about tender friendship with all opponents of the current government, including not only "Karaul" Tinyansky or similar opposition blogs, but also some Ukrainian resources. It would be logical to explain the “leaks” of various documents for internal use that regularly appear on the network.

In principle, Donetsk is not such a big city (remember how many people have left), so everyone knows everything. But no one does anything, although there are more than enough reasons for the proceedings. Even a regular repost from Ukrainian propaganda resources would be enough, not to mention the publication of documents. And yet, there is only one clearly mentally ill blogger and member of the DPR Public Chamber Alexander Bolotin. All the rest are not only free, but continue to harm to the best of their ability. And not so much Pushilin as the whole republic.

In Kiev, glad


It is clear that all this bickering plays into the hands of the enemy. Never before have the Ukrainian media (and perhaps intelligence) felt so at ease. They practically do not have to do anything: just look on the Internet to see all the ins and outs of the DNR. Learn about problems and conflicts, familiarize yourself with various documents that now do not need to be obtained or bought. In general, the whole Donetsk is at a glance.

At the same time, the head of the DPR Pushilin and his entourage show an amazing toothlessness, forcing once again nostalgia for the times of Zakharchenko, who would easily send the entire company to the front line to dig trenches or to demining. In principle, it was he who expelled from the DPR Purgin and Khodakovsky, who had returned already under Pushilin, as well as Tinyansky, "Kerch", Alexandrov and many others. Denis Pushilin, apparently, is inferior to his predecessor in rigidity and the ability to use force. That can cost him dearly and already today painfully affects the entire republic. However, sooner or later Pushilin will simply be forced to either surrender and resign, or join the war. How it will look is unknown, and, probably, indifferent. If only the republic and the local population did not suffer from the intensity of the struggle.
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  1. Undecim
    Undecim 14 August 2020 15: 15
    -2
    forcing once again to feel nostalgic about the times of Zakharchenko, who would have easily sent the whole company to the front line to dig trenches or to clear mines.
    So it was easily sent ... One way ticket. Pushilin made a corresponding conclusion, after Zakharchenko he does not want to go easily.
    The author fantasizes, trying to present the LPR as a kind of state.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 14 August 2020 15: 57
      -5
      Quote: Undecim
      The author fantasizes everything


      Makhov, by his own admission, is a "master of high-profile headlines," without which, in his opinion, an infantile reader "does not hawala", really fantasizes, and not for the first time. But which of his "high-profile" articles with predictions about the DPR and LPR came true in reality?

      Someone on this score will remember something?

      Quote: Egor Makhov
      The problem is that, without a HYIP headline, no one often reads important and necessary articles purely due to the lack of a HYIP headline. Alas.


      Quote: Undecim
      trying to present the LDNR as a kind of state


      Well, of course,Undecim , in your opinion, from the outskirts, we do not exist at all.

      Yes, purely formally, we are certainly not a state in the legal sense, but for the transitional stage of integration in the Russian Federation, this is not actually necessary.

      We are following a different path to gaining statehood as part of Russia ...
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 14 August 2020 16: 52
        0
        We are following a different path to gaining statehood as part of Russia ...
        Yes, yes, and Susanin is leading you. Here on the site there are enough propagandists with loud slogans without you.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 14 August 2020 17: 16
          0
          Quote: Undecim
          Yes, yes, and Susanin is leading you.

          We,not poles which Susanin wiped out from the face of the Russian land, and with which the outskirts, by the way, wanders around "Lublin triangles" from "Uncle Sam"...

          Quote: Undecim
          Here on the site there are enough propagandists with loud slogans without you.


          No. Not slogans No. ... But since my vision does not suit you, give me your detailed, alternative-Ukrainian ...

          Just not the nonsense of Banderlog, which is also more than enough on the site without you.
        2. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 14 August 2020 17: 30
          +7
          Everyone, Undecim, give up! The insurgent has revealed you! And, automatically, I wrote it down in dill. Join the long list. Even if you have never left the Non-Black Earth Region, you are still an evil Ukrainian and your name is legion!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 14 August 2020 17: 44
            -3
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Everyone, Undecim, give up! The insurgent has revealed you! And, automatically, I wrote it down in dill. Join the long list. Even if you have never left the Non-Black Earth Region, you are still an evil Ukrainian and your name is legion!


            How "shrewdly" laughing

            Quote: Undecim
            so that there are no ambiguities - I am from Ukraine.


            Yes, and you too, another one, "a native of the Non-Black Earth Region" yes

            PS you Red-skinned, it is time to understand that I do not use information "from the ceiling" and operate exclusively with facts in the data of which I am sure.
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 14 August 2020 18: 16
              +4
              In principle, I have never concealed that I am from Ukraine, but you, Insurgent, to put it mildly, so as not to violate the rules of the site, are extremely dishonest, blabbering information that you have been told personally. In short - yap you, and the price of your yap is the same.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 15 August 2020 07: 37
                -1
                Quote: Undecim
                In principle, I never hid the fact that I was from Ukraine, but You, Insurgent, to put it mildly, so as not to violate the rules of the site, are extremely dishonest, blabbering information that you have been personally told... In short - yap you, and the price of your yap is the same.


                I do not consider information about territory Your location especially confidential, and such, the disclosure of which requires someone's consent.
                Especially considering that without such identification (who writes from where), the perception of information on the Donbass topic can be distorted

                Moreover, the data about your approximate (territory, city) location is available to many interested parties, including the VO administration:

                The site uses IP addresses, cookies and geolocation data of site users, the terms of use are contained in the privacy policy.


                Thus, your rash claims, Undecimare groundless.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 15 August 2020 10: 37
                  +3
                  What claims can there be against you? These are not claims, but a statement of fact, the definition of personality according to Panikovsky, you may have heard.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 15 August 2020 10: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: Undecim
                    These are not claims, but a statement of fact.

                    What is FACT? For me, the Bandera government on the outskirts, which started the war in Donbass - fact, but for you, according to your statement, no ... And you draw conclusions from what is happening somewhat interesting.
                    Quote: Undecim
                    Definition of a person according to Panikovsky, you may have heard?

                    Of course yes But you are closer to the rogue image of Mikhail Samuelevich ...
            2. Mik13
              Mik13 14 August 2020 18: 20
              +8
              Quote: Insurgent
              it's time to understand that I do not use information "from the ceiling" but operate exclusively with facts in the data of which I am sure.

              As a matter of fact, as for Yegor Makhov, as a resident of Donetsk since May 2014, I can declare that in matters of the DPR this author raves much more often than I would like to read on VO.
              Although, as of now, it seems to me that several people are writing under this pseudonym. Some of them are well aware of the situation in the DPR, and some (KMK) write their opuses during daring experiments on tasting psychotropic drugs under hypoxic conditions.

              Regarding Insurgent - so far he has not written anything strange in the comments. And yet, yes, I am sure that a person lives in the DNR.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 14 August 2020 18: 38
                +1
                Quote: Mik13

                Regarding Insurgent - so far he has not written anything strange in the comments. And yet, yes, I am sure that a person lives in the DNR.

                Moreover, I can clarify that I live in Torez, the city with the famous crash of MH-17, the training ground on the basis of which our "tank battle" was conducted and that the legend of the USSR, A. Stakhanov, lived here in his last years.
              2. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 15 August 2020 05: 45
                +4
                I didn't write anything strange in the comments ...
                An insurgent, reacts painfully to comments from people from Ukraine or somehow related to this country. Of course, if they do not repeat his ideas and immediately hang labels - "dill", "neobandervintsy" ... How to name a person who opposes himself on a national basis?
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 15 August 2020 08: 55
                  -2
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  An insurgent, reacts painfully to comments from people from Ukraine or somehow related to this country.

                  Naturally yes , especially when some gaster from Okrajna, who settled in Russia, starts broadcasting that - "в The outskirts are not so simple, but in the DPR and LPR everything is just horror "based only on the information found in ukroSMI and"so I was told"...

                  That's when in you,Leader everything that is farmer and nationalistic will "dry up", then you will be able to advance reproaches ...
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 15 August 2020 13: 11
                    +3
                    Okay. I only have one question:
                    If everything is so bad in Ukraine, but everything is fine in the LPNR, if there are a bunch of farmers in the trenches against you, in addition drug addicts and drunks, if your economy is flourishing, and Ukroinskaya is about to "move horses" ...
                    WHAT ARE YOU ARE IN RUSSIA WITHOUT SOAP CLIMBING ?!
                    By your logic, I should be interested in what area I should buy at least one-room in. Throw your suburbs, sell kopeck piece and run to you, in the booths of paradise!
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 15 August 2020 15: 32
                      -2
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      Okay. I only have one question:
                      If everything is so bad in Ukraine

                      I wrote:
                      Quote: Insurgent

                      That's when in you, the Leader will "dry up" all the farmers' and nationalist, then you can make reproaches ...

                      What's not clear ?
                      1. The leader of the Redskins
                        The leader of the Redskins 15 August 2020 15: 47
                        0
                        The answer is not clear. I asked a question directed to you and your reality, and instead of answering you accuse me of reproaches.
                2. Victorio
                  Victorio 15 August 2020 10: 19
                  -3
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  An insurgent, reacts painfully to comments from people from Ukraine or somehow related to this country. Of course, if they do not repeat his ideas and immediately hang labels - "dill", "neobandervintsy" ... How to name a person who opposes himself on a national basis?

                  ===
                  Probably it is difficult and strange to demand respectful attitude to that / those connected with modern Ukraine from the current inhabitants of the LDPR.
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 15 August 2020 13: 12
                    -1
                    Enough objectivity.
                    1. Victorio
                      Victorio 17 August 2020 08: 47
                      -1
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      Enough objectivity.

                      ===
                      well, live there, now it is more or less calm there, but there are still places on the contact line where people in the basements are hiding from the gifts of the Armed Forces. then we will check your objectivity
      2. Astra wild
        Astra wild 14 August 2020 16: 53
        +2
        those. Do you see your future as part of the Russian Federation? This is good, but does everyone want it. I am very interested in what kind of Russia: capitalist or socialist?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 14 August 2020 17: 10
          +1
          Quote: Astra wild
          those. Do you see your future as part of the Russian Federation? This is good, but does everyone want it. I am very interested in what kind of Russia: capitalist or socialist?

          Over the thousand-year history of Rus-Russia, how many social and state formations were there?

          One replaced the other, and Russia was and remains Russia yes .

          The worker of Donbass is not one of those who turn his nose up - "Right now Russia not like that, so we are not on the way with her"
          We are not skakuasy Maidan who wanted to get "everything at once" from Europe, we are simple people, workers and never put their hopes on "manna from heaven".

          We will work together and make Russia what we think together.

          You can laugh with "slogans", but these thoughts are a vision of our common future ...
        2. Varaga
          Varaga 16 August 2020 10: 38
          0
          Apparently, in the one that is. If I understood it correctly.
      3. Varaga
        Varaga 16 August 2020 10: 36
        0
        We do not mind.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 14 August 2020 16: 36
      +1
      Quote: Undecim
      The author fantasizes, trying to present the LPR as a kind of state.

      Of course they are not No. ... But who, for the sixth year now, has been giving the most powerful army in Europe in the face? winked
      1. Shilka
        Shilka 14 August 2020 19: 21
        -3
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Undecim
        The author fantasizes, trying to present the LPR as a kind of state.

        Of course they are not No. ... But who, for the sixth year now, has been giving the most powerful army in Europe in the face? winked

        Well done Gennady !!! Excellent podkol Svidomo good ..The boilers and the destruction of all aviation are remembered .. Now, out of anger, mortars are being fired from afar on drunkards .. Padly!
        1. cost
          cost 14 August 2020 20: 46
          +4
          It is sad to see how two, in my opinion, the most interesting, intelligent and competent VO commentators argue - Insurgent and Undecim ... Two different camps ... Two different worlds ... Politics divides the hearts and minds of people ... okay.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 14 August 2020 20: 58
            +6
            This is not an argument. It's just that the person turned out to be dishonest.
            And arguing on this topic is a waste of time. With whom to argue - with Shilka?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 15 August 2020 07: 52
              -4
              Quote: Undecim
              This is not an argument. It's just that the person turned out to be dishonest.


              I have already answered above, but I will repeat - this information is not confidential, the publication / disclosure / use of which requires your personal, or someone else's consent.
          2. Shilka
            Shilka 14 August 2020 22: 08
            0
            Quote: Rich
            It is sad to see how two, in my opinion, the most interesting, intelligent and competent VO commentators argue - Insurgent and Undecim ... Two different camps ... Two different worlds ... Politics divides the hearts and minds of people ... okay.

            Well, the insurgent is still a provocateur .. I don’t know anything else! They can play this here that Mikhalkov and Posner are just kids ... laughing
          3. Insurgent
            Insurgent 15 August 2020 07: 49
            -3
            Quote: Rich
            It's sad to see how two, in my opinion, the most interesting, intelligent and competent VO commentators argue - Insurgent and Undecim ...

            Thank you for the assessment of mine personally (and Undecim, where will you get it request ) attempts to carry information about what is happening as we see it with a difference in perception, on both sides of the front line / demarcation ...
            Quote: Rich
            Two different camps ... Two different worlds ... Politics separates the hearts and minds of people .... If it is not okay.

            Personally, having nothing against a worthy opponent in the person of Undecim, I must note that after all, with his perception of reality on the outskirts, he is really a rival, opponent, adversary ...
          4. Liam
            Liam 15 August 2020 08: 04
            +1
            Quote: Rich
            Sad

            It’s sad to compare these two users. Undich is an erudite Persian. The second is a monothematic chatterbox, what kind of a carriage and a small cart is there.
  2. Don karleone
    Don karleone 14 August 2020 15: 41
    +1
    Moscow was not built right away ........ with a kind of state
  3. Kronos
    Kronos 14 August 2020 15: 44
    +4
    As if Pushilin does something good that he cannot be criticized. Well, to shut up the mouths of those who disagree, if only everything is quiet, just do it brilliantly.
  4. Shilka
    Shilka 14 August 2020 19: 17
    -6
    However, sooner or later Pushilin will simply be forced to either surrender and resign, or join the war. How it will look is unknown, and, probably, indifferent. If only the republic and the local population did not suffer from the intensity of the struggle.

    Pushilin is certainly far from Zakharchenko, Mozgovoy, etc. (the kingdom of heaven to them) .. He is afraid of liquidation .. But the DPR is already a small state, capable of defending itself, all the structures of power have long been formed, etc.!
    So Bandera's dreams are in vain .. Let them fear better in Kiev, if Donbass goes first to Kiev! And this option is quite possible .. They have known for a long time who is there and what and where will run.
    And we will wait in Russia to figure it out ourselves in a month.
  5. pereselenec
    pereselenec 15 August 2020 01: 57
    -2
    Anatomy of a protest: who plays against Pushilin?

    In fact, after the situation with the Republic of Belarus, no one cares deeply about the LDNR and the MMM-schik Pushilin. This article, if it collects 20 comments, will be a great achievement.
    1. Varaga
      Varaga 16 August 2020 10: 46
      0
      As for Pushilin, I will not say anything. But about the LDNR - you are in vain. No need to speak for everyone. No, it doesn't matter. And for RB - not all the same. And there, and there the Slavs. And they want to destroy them.