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Stalin's miracle: post-war restoration of the USSR

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As you know, the only award that Stalin wore, without removing until the end of his days, was the Star of the Hero of Socialist Labor. Despite the more than successful leadership of the country during the largest and most difficult war in its entire history, Iosif Vissarionovich saw himself first of all not as a commander and strategist, but as a builder and creator. This point of view of his is brilliantly proved by the incredible, contrary to all the laws of economics and admirable act today: the restoration of the Soviet Union after the Great Patriotic War.


The anti-Stalinist gentlemen, as usual, have heaped up real mountains of lies around this period of our history. They say that they raised the USSR from the ruins solely thanks to the plundering of Europe, as well as the slave labor of prisoners of war and prisoners of the GULAG. These statements do not stand up to criticism, even at the most superficial examination, so I will dwell on them only briefly. Yes, a certain amount of raw materials, equipment for industry, transport and other things was exported to the Soviet Union (not in the form of robbery, but within the framework of more than legal reparations stipulated by international treaties). However, it was absolutely impossible to “block” all of this the colossal destruction that the country suffered from the occupiers!

According to the most rough estimates, during the war, more than 1700 Soviet cities and 70 villages were destroyed to the foundation, more than 30 industrial enterprises and almost 100 collective farms were destroyed, as well as about 3 MTS, which were one of the foundations of Soviet agriculture. 65 thousand kilometers of railways, hundreds of thousands of kilometers of power transmission and communication lines were wiped off the face of the earth. In general, the USSR lost at least a third of its national treasure, its European part lay in ruins almost completely. The country has lost more than 20 million of its citizens ...

With such a scale of destruction, no reparations and indemnities would have saved the national economy. You can bring in machine tools, rails, locomotives, ore, coal ... But a blast furnace, factory buildings, roadbed, power plants - in no case. All this could only be restored, and in most cases, completely rebuilt. Two and a half million prisoners or two - domestic prisoners? On the scale of that time, the numbers are just scanty. It is impossible to call their role decisive in the post-war revival, if only due to the fact that only demobilized Red Army soldiers (already in the summer of 1945, as many as 13 age groups were dismissed from the ranks of the armed forces) joined the number of builders who were restoring the USSR, in the shortest possible time more than 10 million. There were even more of those who simply continued their work at the enterprises, immediately after the end of the war, transferred from the military to peaceful "rails" by the decision of the State Defense Committee.

The country was restored, of course, not by prisoners or prisoners, but by its people, who changed their military uniforms to working overalls and robes. At the same time, again, liberal tales about post-war labor slavery are an absolute lie. Quite the opposite was the case. The abolition of mandatory overtime, the return of the usual eight-hour workday and paid annual leave - all of this happened almost immediately after the end of the war. And, by the way, the rationing system in the post-war USSR was canceled much earlier than in some other countries, like Great Britain, for example.

At the same time, the Soviet Union categorically refused to participate in the postwar "Marshall Plan" proposed by the United States. Comrade Stalin saw in such a way to the economic enslavement by overseas "benefactors" of those whom they were going to "help" - and looked into the water. Moreover, the USSR also did not participate in the Bretton Woods system, which marked the beginning of the era of financial domination on the planet by the US Federal Reserve System: by the decision of Joseph Vissarionovich, the Soviet ruble was not "tied" to the dollar, but returned to the gold standard, having spent a brilliant monetary reform. It would seem that a country that resolutely rejected the support of yesterday's "allies" who had turned into global usurers was doomed to long-term stagnation and extremely slow recovery. It was not so!

In addition to the enormous labor enthusiasm, dedication and solidarity of the Soviet people, who showed no less heroism in the revival of the Motherland than on the battlefields of the Great Patriotic War, the ingenious planning and leadership of the post-war "great construction" in the USSR played a huge role. By the way, the first decisions concerning urgent measures to restore the national economy in the regions liberated from enemy occupation were adopted by the leadership of the party and the country and began to be implemented back in 1943. However, the pinnacle of the managerial skills of Stalin and his team was the famous "Law on the five-year plan for the restoration and development of the national economy of the USSR for 1946-1950", adopted in March 1946 by the decision of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.

As part of the implementation of this truly grandiose plan, the very miracle that historians and economists admire to this day was performed. The plan was overfulfilled with interest. By 1948, Soviet industry was mainly raised from the ruins and began to work, and already in 1950, thanks to the restoration and creation of new enterprises in an amount exceeding 6200 objects, the level of industrial production in the USSR exceeded the pre-war figures not by 48%, as was originally envisaged, but by all 73%! Similar indicators, albeit less impressive, were achieved in agriculture. And this despite the terrible crop failure of 1946 caused by natural disasters. Nevertheless, even during it, the USSR did not buy bread abroad ...

From each victory and from each miscalculation, appropriate conclusions were immediately drawn. It was during this period that the "Stalinist plan for the transformation of nature" was adopted, which promised unprecedented prospects for the agrarians. There was a rapid development of Soviet science, which was indeed the most advanced in the world. It was then that the foundations were laid for the future fantastic breakthroughs of the Soviet country, such as space flights. At the same time, the armed forces did not fall apart, but developed and rapidly modernized. The USSR went to the creation of a nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles, other advanced types of weapons and equipment.

Was all this a heavy burden on the shoulders of ordinary people? Judge for yourself, but only taking into account the real facts and figures. Such, for example, as a regular and very significant reduction in prices for almost all consumer goods, from food to motorcycles and televisions. A colossal program of housing construction was launched in the USSR, all conditions were created in the country for the development of an artel-cooperative movement, in fact, private entrepreneurship, which was under state control. Alas, it all ended in 1953. After the death of Joseph Vissarionovich, who was truly the Hero of Labor and Creation, the Soviet Union went from an incredible post-war takeoff to a fall into the abyss.
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  1. Mustachioed Georgian
    Mustachioed Georgian 13 August 2020 05: 48 New
    44
    Someday the prefix VELIKY will stand next to the name STALIN.
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 07: 37 New
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      Well, as if the true attitude of the common people can be seen like this:

      And how the people treat traitors like EBNa, I think everyone knows so well.
      So unambiguously both Stalin and Ivan the Terrible (whom the bastards Romanovs threw out from the monument of 1000 Rus) are definitely both formidable and GREAT !!!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 13 August 2020 10: 58 New
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        The article is correct!
        Stalin for the common people was truly a true leader!

        1. CSKA
          CSKA 13 August 2020 14: 18 New
          -30
          ))))) Of course, everyone in the Russian Empire wore sandals. The Turks, of course, did not shoot down the plane and did not make provocations, the Japanese did it. And then in the 39th he did not start a war because of this.
          1. Alexfly
            Alexfly 19 August 2020 16: 52 New
            +1
            Seryoga, Russia was an agrarian country with 80% rural population. It was under the Bolsheviks that resettlement to cities began, due to surplus appropriation and, later, from dispossession. So a lot of people walked in bast shoes ...
        2. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 30 New
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          Not just a leader, he was a real Leader and Patriot of the country and all peoples inhabiting the great country of the USSR
        3. bulava
          bulava 14 August 2020 18: 29 New
          -2
          Everything is written correctly and it's sad
        4. bashir141
          bashir141 15 August 2020 17: 20 New
          +2
          Do not speak. And after Stalin's death, he was slandered, his monuments, museums were destroyed and the cities named after him were renamed.
      2. CSKA
        CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 02 New
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        Quote: Varyag_0711
        Well, as if the true attitude of the common people can be seen like this:

        )))) Do you really think that these ordinary people bring such bouquets every day?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 13 August 2020 11: 53 New
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          The common people bring these flowers with respect and heart ...
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 13 August 2020 12: 46 New
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            Quote: CSKA
            Do you really think that these common people bring such bouquets every day?
            Every day, of course, not - ordinary people do not bring such bouquets in SUCH quantity, but only on special occasions.
            However, from modern LIBERAL "market people" in power in the Russian Federation in these bouquets - from the people - from 1991-1993 there is not a single flower at all!
            And this is understandable why.

            1. CSKA
              CSKA 13 August 2020 14: 29 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              but only on special occasions.

              This bouquet is brought on special occasions by the Communist Party, and not by ordinary people. Do you even know how much such a bouquet costs?
              Quote: Tatiana
              However, from modern LIBERAL "market people" in power in the Russian Federation

              Wake up. Both liberals and conservatives can have a market economy. Everywhere you drag liberals. At least read what liberalism and liberalism are in the economy, and then look at the government's policy in the economy.
              All these pamphlets with chatter do not need to be posted. That's bullshit. When people like you realize that you are already the past. You are a minority and you are less and less. The future of the Russian Federation belongs to normal, adequate patriots who do not live with fictitious illusions about the jelly rivers and milk shores of the Soviet Union, which did not exist. You communists destroyed the Soviet Union, instead of carrying out normal reforms, and now you whine. As our president rightly said: you need to be a nonentity in order to rejoice in the collapse of the USSR and a complete idiot in order to want it to return in its former form.
              1. 210ox
                210ox 13 August 2020 15: 30 New
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                Yeah, and I see more and more portraits of Joseph Vissarionovich since the 80s. Greetings to the worthless-sick anti-communism.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 14 August 2020 09: 27 New
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                  Quote: 210ox
                  Yeah, and portraits of Joseph Vissarionovich since the 80s, I see more and more.

                  laughing Where do you see? In your room?
              2. Vladimir B.
                Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 38 New
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                Quote: CSKA
                At least read what liberalism and liberalism in the economy are, and then look at the policy pursued by the authorities in the economy

                We read and compared. Conclusion: one to one, complete liberalism.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 14 August 2020 09: 28 New
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                  Quote: Vladimir B.
                  We read and compared. Conclusion: one to one, complete liberalism.

                  Means poorly read. The most elementary. In a liberal economy, there can be no state corporations. Read and understand normally.
              3. Kwas
                Kwas 13 August 2020 19: 46 New
                +4
                Quote: CSKA
                you need to be a nonentity to rejoice at the collapse of the USSR and a complete id.iot, to want its return in its former form.

                I will subscribe to every word. It is not necessary in its previous form, otherwise it’s asking again ... adim, we must learn from mistakes. But it is also necessary to remember both mistakes and achievements. That is why we argue here.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 14 August 2020 09: 36 New
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                  Quote: Kwas
                  I will subscribe to every word. It is not necessary in its previous form, otherwise it’s asking again ... adim, we must learn from mistakes. But it is also necessary to remember both mistakes and achievements. That is why we argue here.

                  You try to explain it to these pseudo communists here on the forums. It's just not comprehensible to the mind how much their brain does not work. Some here sincerely believe that the period of Stalin's rule is a golden age.
              4. bashir141
                bashir141 15 August 2020 17: 26 New
                +1
                You are anti-communists destroyed the Russian Empire.
                And you still whine.

                And one carnation in Moscow costs from 50 rubles. So this is normal for the common people. People pay more for cigarettes.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 45 New
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                  Quote: bashir141
                  And one carnation in Moscow costs from 50 rubles. So this is normal for the common people. People pay more for cigarettes.

                  And some carry bouquets of 30-40 pcs. And oh, how many people are carrying, as many as 40-50 people.
                  Quote: bashir141
                  You are anti-communists destroyed the Russian Empire.
                  And you still whine.

                  ))))) Do you think I'm 120-130 years old? I am not an anti-communist, I am against the pseudo-communists on this site. And just, unlike you, the communists do not whine here on the forums, oh, how bad everything is.
                  1. bashir141
                    bashir141 26 August 2020 23: 12 New
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                    Not 30-40. And 3 carnations each for Comrade Stalin. And not every day.

                    Not you. But you are like anti-communists.
                    And how you whine. They differed about carnations, sandals and the Turks with the Japanese.
                    1. CSKA
                      CSKA 28 August 2020 12: 18 New
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                      Quote: bashir141
                      Not 30-40. And 3 carnations each for Comrade Stalin. And not every day.

                      Wear it every day.
                      Quote: bashir141
                      Not you. But you are like anti-communists.
                      And how you whine. They differed about carnations, sandals and the Turks with the Japanese.

                      I am not an anti-communist, although I understand that communism is a utopia. It is you pseudo communists who made up a world for themselves with rivers of milk and jelly banks in the USSR, and who themselves ruined it. And I just don't whine. I see how the RF is developing. Yes, not fast, but there are difficulties. Ideally, nothing is ever done. But I perfectly remember how it was 20 years ago and I see it now.
                      And from you only whine is heard. Everything is wrong for you, everything is wrong for you. Even with your head you do not understand that people like you who criticized under Stalin would be the first to go to the wall.
          2. CSKA
            CSKA 13 August 2020 14: 16 New
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            Quote: 210ox
            The common people bring these flowers with respect and heart ...

            laughing lol They bring a flower each and before that all these hundreds of people agree on which flower to bring? Are you out of your mind?
            1. Vladimir B.
              Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 53 New
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              Quote: CSKA
              Quote: 210ox
              The common people bring these flowers with respect and heart ...

              laughing lol They bring a flower each and before that all these hundreds of people agree on which flower to bring? Are you out of your mind?

              In contrast to you, everything is normal with the mind. Someone bears one flower, someone in armfuls.





              The result is the same as in the image above.

              Quote: CSKA
              all these hundreds of people agree on which flower to bring?

              Carnations are a symbol of the October Revolution.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 13 August 2020 11: 56 New
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          This is the result of the activities of these people. http://stalinizator.ru/ I myself have been transferring money to them twice a year for 10 years already. For I had two dreams - to put flowers on the grave of Comrade Stalin, and to shit on Yeltsin's grave .. The first came true, albeit with someone else's hands, however - and I myself had a chance to visit Moscow .. Now - I very much hope that the second one will be lucky too .. Since it's so flooded ..
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 16: 29 New
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            paul3390 (Paul)
            put flowers on the grave of Comrade Stalin, and shit on Yeltsin's grave ..
            Comrade, in the first and second cases, try to do it for two, anyway I will have to ...!
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 13 August 2020 20: 00 New
              +1
              Well, you can transfer money to them twice a year and you can do it yourself ... 500 rubles each - and a huge mountain of carnations on the grave ..
          2. Kwas
            Kwas 13 August 2020 19: 51 New
            +3
            And I also have a dream - to watch the guillotine of the traitors of 1991! I strongly hope that it will also come true. Unless they die ahead of time. Many are already dead, damn it!
          3. Azis
            Azis 18 August 2020 20: 42 New
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            Quote: paul3390
            and shit on ...
            You have forgotten the spotted gms
      3. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 29 New
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        Quote: Varyag_0711
        EBN

        I'm sorry, but you got a mistake. These three letters, ebn, are written in small letters. Otherwise, I agree with you hi
    2. Civil
      Civil 13 August 2020 10: 25 New
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      Everything that Stalin did was successfully reset in 1991 (partly earlier)

      Marshall Plan Members:

      Austria
      Belgium
      United Kingdom
      West Germany
      Greece
      Denmark
      Ireland
      Iceland
      Italy
      Luxembourg
      Netherlands
      Norway
      Portugal
      Free territory of Trieste
      Turkey
      France
      Sweden
      Switzerland
      Apart from Turkey, all other countries are rich and successful ... but how is the former USSR doing in 2020? Except for the Baltics, all are developing countries of the 3rd world.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 13 August 2020 10: 47 New
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        I always wondered how Switzerland got on this list. During the war, they welded, to put it mildly, not bad. They really have a couple of Messers broke during landing. Or in which bank the foundation sank, from the gold plundered by the Nazis. Then yes, the foundation needs to be strengthened. The Marshall Plan is indispensable here.
        1. Vlad is short
          Vlad is short 23 September 2020 07: 46 New
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          All the money according to the Marshal's plan went through the Swiss banks, how to do without them.
      2. apro
        apro 13 August 2020 11: 18 New
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        Quote: Civil
        how is the former USSR doing in 2020?

        The question is not correctly posed. New capitalistic russia. So it will be more correct.
      3. dzvero
        dzvero 13 August 2020 13: 29 New
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        The main goal of the Marshall Plan is not only enslavement (a pleasant side effect), how much to cash in on the post-war reconstruction and thereby ensure the growth of the American economy.
        As for the success - at the time of the end of the plan, only West Germany, England and France can be called so successful. Sweden and Switzerland ... they were doing pretty well before. The rest became rich and successful only after joining the EU. But this is a completely different project.
        Was the Marshall Plan successful - definitely, yes. The Federal Republic of Germany became the driving force of the economic power of Western Europe under the full control of the United States. Later it became the locomotive of the EU. The American economy flourished - it's no coincidence that everyone cites the 50s and 60s as the golden age of the United States.
        Why did Stalin reject the Marshal Plan for the USSR? The Soviet leadership did not want to support someone else's (and already hostile) economy. Funds remained in the country, contributing to development, and from the mid-60s to the late 80s, living standards did not lag far behind most Western European countries. The gap and the lag happened in the late 80s, it's understandable why.
      4. Kwas
        Kwas 13 August 2020 19: 53 New
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        Quote: Civil
        Apart from Turkey, all other countries are rich and successful ... but how is the former USSR doing in 2020? Except for the Baltics, all are developing countries of the 3rd world.

        Excuse me, but the Balts, sorry WHERE? Or rhyme?
      5. Alecsandr
        Alecsandr 14 August 2020 16: 11 New
        +1
        And you look at the list of countries by external debt and understand why they live like this
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 13 August 2020 12: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Mustachioed Georgian
      Someday the prefix VELIKY will stand next to the name STALIN.

      Only not under the current government ...
    4. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 17: 26 New
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      For me, Stalin is already Great. And no one will be able to convince me otherwise.
    5. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 14 August 2020 12: 53 New
      +5
      Recently on the Internet I read an opinion with which I agree.
      Over the twenty years of Putin's rule, the pinnacle of his achievements was the holding of the Sochi Olympics and the World Cup.
      The economy is out. Education has degraded. Culture is at zero.
      When in one edition he was asked why it was necessary to spend under a hundred billion dollars on events, the results of which are canceled one by one by WADA, Putin smiled and replied: "People like it ..."
      During the same period, Stalin carried out industrialization, collectivization, defeated illiteracy, defeated the fascists, rebuilt the country from the ashes ...
      With an iron hand, yes. How else? Intricate, intelligent promises? Doubtful ...
      If he were imbued with Putin's formula "people like it", instead of factories, factories, hospitals, universities, he would build distilleries, beer halls and merry-go-rounds all over the country ...
      Little number the leader of the state. Let the popularly elected ...
      They need be. yes
  2. kot-begemot
    kot-begemot 13 August 2020 05: 49 New
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    And his friend and colleague Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.
    No matter how they smeared Stalin's name on stones and dirt, but the 30-40 years were the peak of the country's development, I don't know what the state leadership can be accused of then, especially against the background of what has been going on in the last, from 84 to the present day, years
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 13 August 2020 06: 00 New
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      ingenious planning and leadership
      Where is our ingenious planning? probably in central banks and the Ministry of Economy ...
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 13 August 2020 07: 01 New
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      Quote: kot-begemot
      And his friend and colleague Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.
      Stalin's friend and ally Molotov about Beria's comrade-in-arms:
      "he was exposed as a traitor, as an enemy of our party and the Soviet state ... he is a stranger to us and a dirty, immoral type. It is now clear that he caused a lot of harm to our party and the Soviet state, that he is a great criminal and a dangerous adventurer. it happened that such a hardened enemy as Beria could get into our party and its governing body?

      To this question, if we do not go into the deep reasons for such facts, we can give a simple answer: this is the result of the insufficient vigilance of our Central Committee, including Comrade. Stalin.
      1953 g
      Quote: kot-begemot
      about 30-40 years were the peak of the country's development

      This is obviously about the year of the declaration of already built socialism 1937.
      Here's what happened at this peak:
      Prompt NKVD 1937: In the Litvinovsky, Svishchevsky, Neverkinsky and Chembarsky districts, 10 deaths due to hunger were noted. There are facts of swelling, eating the meat of dead animals, various surrogates and diseases of collective farmers from malnutrition.
      collective farmer of the collective farm. Blukhera, Svishchevsky District, Botov had seven children and was entitled to a multi-family allowance in the amount of 2 thousand rubles. However, the granting of benefits was delayed and in December 1936 he had two children fell ill, who, being weakened from malnutrition, died. ... In order to buy bread, Botov sold his house.

      Due to food difficulties in the area homelessness and poverty are growing... In the city of Kuznetsk, at the railway station in recent days, 20 street children were picked up, abandoned by collective farmers of the Neverkinsky district when they left for work. In with. Isaevka Chembarsky district do not attend school, and up to 40% of schoolchildren are impoverished. In five schools of the Mokshan district, 70 students left. On the collective farms of the Petrovsky district, 16 families of collective farmers engaged in begging have been identified.

      In total, 14 deaths due to hunger took place in 62 districts during the winter.

      This is only one of the Kuibyshev region. The same in Voronezh, Tataria, etc.

      As for the reconstruction after the war, this is undoubtedly a great feat of the people, not less than the victory in the war.



      If they had not yet tore bread and resources from the already poor people to support the new "friends" - occupiers of our country, there would not have been hundreds of thousands of deaths from hunger in 46-47
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 07: 26 New
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        Well, someone Olgovich cannot calmly pass by the name of really great people, it is necessary to shit.
        Not dear, personally you are not worth a nail on the little finger of either Beria or Stalin. So just walk by!
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 13 August 2020 08: 37 New
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          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Well, someone Olgovich cannot calmly pass by the name of really great people, it is necessary to shit.

          well, a person likes to play the fool, what can you do ... consider it a local freak hi
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 August 2020 10: 01 New
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          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Well, someone Olgovich cannot calmly pass by the name of really great people, it is necessary to shit.

          "Shit"(in your expression) it was the GREAT people of that era: Molotov, Mikoyan, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, Suslov, Bagirov, Snechkus, Shatalin, Malyshev, Bulganin and others - publicly and in front of everyone on Plenum of the Central Committee 1953.

          Here's Voroshilov, the leader's faithful ally:
          the speeches of the members of the Presidium and the Central Committee quite fully revealed the whole traitor's criminal abomination Beria, gave an exhaustive and vivid description of this criminal adventurer.
          Beria is a type of an insidious, cunning enemy, a type of a complete adventurer, an intriguer, who knew how to deftly enter into the trust of the leader, who knew how to hide his dastardly plans for a long time and wait for a convenient moment for himself.
          .
          I personally didn’t say a WORD, all from the transcript of the Plenum.

          Or do you propose to CROSS OUT THE DOCUMENTS? And then what to leave?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 13 August 2020 10: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: Olgovich
            It was the GREAT people of that epoch who "made a mess" (in your expression): Molotov, Mikoyan, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, Suslov, Bagirov, Snechkus, Shatalin, Malyshev, Bulganin and others, publicly and in front of everyone at the 1953 Central Committee Plenum.

            ICH, it didn't help them - after four years, many of the above old Bolsheviks and loyal Leninists let's go on business the anti-party group of Molotov, Kaganovich, Malenkov and Shepilov, who joined them.
            A factional anti-party group, which included Molotov, Kaganovich, Malenkov, Voroshilov, Bulganin, Pervukhin, Saburov, and Shepilov, who joined them, tried to offer fierce resistance to the implementation of the Leninist course outlined by the XX Party Congress.

            One Mikoyan slipped between the drops... as always, as always. smile
            1. PavelM
              PavelM 13 August 2020 16: 32 New
              +1
              Mikoyan alone slipped between the drops ... as always, as always. smile

              "The head of the warehouse, the director of the store (s), the Minister of Trade Mikoyan - these are always between the drops!
            2. Kwas
              Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Mikoyan alone slipped between the drops ... as always, as always.

              Everyone needs a sausage.
              1. Hantengri
                Hantengri 13 August 2020 20: 35 New
                +4
                Quote: Kwas
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Mikoyan alone slipped between the drops ... as always, as always.

                Everyone needs a sausage.

                "The most cunning of the Armenians is Stasik Mikoyan!" (c) (from somewhere, from childhood.)
                1. Kwas
                  Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 47 New
                  +3
                  Quote: HanTengri
                  "The most cunning of the Armenians is Stasik Mikoyan!" (c) (from somewhere, from childhood.)

                  Yes, yes, I also remember "The bravest of the Armenians is Bagramyan."
      2. Deniska999
        Deniska999 13 August 2020 07: 45 New
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        If Molotov wrote about Beria in this way for the sake of the conjuncture, then we must follow it? In that case, we are no better than the Americans, demolishing confederate monuments because of BLM. Only a calm and pragmatic assessment.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 August 2020 08: 39 New
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          Quote: Deniska999
          If Molotov wrote about Beria in this way for the sake of the conjuncture, then we must follow it?

          Didn't write, but acted at the plenum of the Central Committee in 1953 in front of ALL comrades-in-arms of Beria and Stalin under the general approval of all.

          And NONE of his comrades-in-arms spoke out in defense of Beria, but ALL came out with areal abuse in his address: Mikoyan, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, Suslov, Bagirov, Snechkus, Shatalin, Malyshev, Bulganin and others.

          Those. all these comrades-in-arms of Stalin ... hustlers ?! And where is .... NOT nekusturs, real, unbending communists cutting the truth-womb? Give their surnames from the country's leadership, yes, at least ONE of those present at this Plenum. And the leadership was there in full force.
          Quote: Deniska999
          In that case, we are no better than the Americans, demolishing confederate monuments because of BLM.

          You read the verbatim report of the Plenum - they spoke very sincerely, from the heart.
          And no connection with BLM: NOBODY pressed on the leadership of the USSR from below from the squares
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 13 August 2020 08: 54 New
            -10
            What do you want to achieve? The history of any state is a series of endless battles for power. The elite also merged the king without a twinge of conscience. I am not idealizing not the Soviet era, nor any other. It's just annoying this senseless chicanery. Local users want to admire the USSR, the flag is in their hands.
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    3. CSKA
      CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 43 New
      -12
      Quote: kot-begemot
      No matter how they smeared Stalin's name on stones and mud, the 30-40s were the peak of development

      Are you out of your mind at all? Is the peak of development a war that claimed 27 million?
      Quote: kot-begemot
      , I don't know what the state leadership can be accused of then

      Do not know? Exactly? The leadership is not to blame for the hunger of the early 30s? Is it also not to blame for the massive repressions? If this happened under the current government, you would have already expelled bile.
      Quote: kot-begemot
      especially against the background of what is happening last, from 84 to the present

      And what happens now with us? There is no hunger like under Stalin? Didn't they shoot 600 thousand people on political charges? People do not shake that at any moment the authorities will come for them? Can people afford to buy an apartment and a car?
      1. Hantengri
        Hantengri 13 August 2020 12: 29 New
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        Quote: CSKA
        The leadership is not to blame for the hunger of the early 30s?

        And how, specifically, how did it organize this famine, in your opinion, not only in its own country, but also in the adjacent regions of Poland and Romania?
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 13 August 2020 14: 55 New
          -11
          Quote: HanTengri
          And how, specifically, how did it organize this famine, in your opinion, not only in its own country, but also in the adjacent regions of Poland and Romania?

          And where did I write that it deliberately organized it? It arose because of the policy of the authorities. Don't you know about collectivization? The Poles drove their peasantry into bondage and also got hunger, only the scale is smaller.
          1. Hantengri
            Hantengri 13 August 2020 19: 43 New
            +4
            Quote: CSKA
            And where did I write that it deliberately organized it? It arose because of the policy of the authorities.

            Those. Did the rust epidemic and drought happen because of government policy? Are you exaggerating the ability of the Bolsheviks to influence material nature?
            Quote: CSKA
            Don't you know about collectivization?

            If collectivization (with all its excesses) were not accompanied by traditional folk amusements such as: "The Ukrainian night is quiet, but it is better to hide the bacon", "Don’t eat so much" and "So don’t get anyone else!", Then the consequences of a crop failure would not have been would be so disastrous.
            Summary of excerpts from messages coming from the JCC in the Red Army for the second half of February 1933 March 1, 1933
            № 81
            Bread shelter messages

            1. Rostov-Don, 9th artillery regiment, Karpenko

            “... In Art. The horses were stubbornly made flour and poured with chalk until the cattle had rested, and they sold the bran that they were given. The whole family was swollen from hunger in the same village, and when they appointed a commission and checked if they really had nothing to eat, they found bread buried in pits - four bags, and when they began to ask them why you didn’t eat this bread, but stained it themselves hunger, they replied: "We were afraid to dig a hole." Well, in a word, there are a lot of such cases ... ”Armavir, CCM - from a friend.

            2. Stavropol n / a, postbox number 75, D.T. Melikhov

            “... The grain procurement was completed for more than 100, and the regional semaphond was completed, and the district fund for 5% on February 15, and if the village is not fulfilled, it must be sent to the North. The peasantry lives like this: some swell, high-quality bread is eaten, and bread is buried in a pit. We have a lot of holes in the village openly and, in all likelihood, there are. Based on this, the state did not give us seeds; we need to find it locally ... ”CCM.

            3. Stavropol n / a, 22nd artillery regiment, I.T. Translation

            “... There is no bread, and the plan for the sown area has been brought to the yard. 26% was imposed on me, but I didn’t have that much either. But now pits are being opened in our country, and among collective farmers and individual farmers, pits are being opened, bread is being taken, stuff is being taken away, and the owner is being sent to prison. Do not leave a single piece of bread or even a beetroot. In a word, nothing ... ”Dmitrievskoye, CCM - from relatives.

            4. Novocherkassk, communication regiment, Sukhanov S.N.

            “... A lot of stolen bread was found in the pits, these people were convicted. But still there is nothing, we have a lot of chubby people ... ”Nizhny-Kalmyksky, CCM.

            5. Stavropol n / a, postbox number 71, II. Shipunu

            “One bandit left a horse near Sukhoi, and he went to the farm, and three people remained in Sukhoi. Our people were driving in a car and saw this bandit, but did not pay attention, and when they reached Sukhoi at 9 am and saw a saddled horse, they took this horse, returned to the farm, found this bandit, began to interrogate, and he confessed and told everything where they are, and they live in the forest, there they have a hut with a pit; four carts and one bus went there. They have three pits there and a thousand and a half pounds of bread in them, but ours searched, but did not find, there were 17 bandits, but 13 people had already taken them home, and now they are in prison. Among them there are Cossacks. They did not find bread because there is a lot of snow ... ”From [ate] Dmitrievskoe, CCM - from his brother.

            6. Novocherkassk, communication regiment, Zakharov K.S.

            “... Now in our village there is a fierce class struggle, the kulaks and podkulaks hide bread in pits, pour it into the river, the kulak Grishaev poured 150 poods into the river's ice-hole at night. wheat and when he was caught, he said: "My father was killed by the Reds, my mother was evicted like a fist, my father-in-law was sentenced to 10 years, so you think that I will voluntarily give you my bread so that you cripple my whole life." The sabotage took on the most acute character, but the collective farmers will break, the bulk of them indignantly notes the facts of the theft of grain and mobilizes their forces for the struggle. In January, 45 holes were opened, 2041 centners of bread were found. In Popovka, a bread tank of 845 centners was opened ... ”Millerovo, SKK - from his brother.

            7. Novocherkassk, 42nd company, Lugovsky M.N.

            “... Bondarenko I. found 150 poods in the pit. wheat, we have a lot of people who hid grain from the state, plundered the collective farm grain, an honest collective farmer is now starving through them ... ”Prikumsk, SKK, Kirilenko.

            8. Stavropol n / K, artillery regiment, I.F. Fanuk

            “... Life is awful now. Uniform hunger everywhere. The prisons are all overcrowded. A stream of tears is pouring. In the dresser we work all day and we all find pits in which 2 or even 3 quintals of grain are hidden. Straight one surprise to watch. And you feel sorry for the citizens, but you look at their policies and the pity disappears. The collective farmers are not provided with anything, the horse will die on the collective farm, and the collective farmers are pulling and fighting for this scum. There is nothing on the collective farm, there will be nothing to sow, and for this again many will go to trial ... ”Pregradnaya, SKK - from relatives.

            9. Stavropol n / K, Mitrofanovsk [th] 6, A.K. Tibekin

            “... We came here to a broken trough, there is no party or Komsomol organization here, there is no village council board either. In general, we can say that everything has been destroyed, but the kulak sabotage has not yet been finished off. Let me give you an example that I was convinced of in practice. One individual peasant starved three children to death and was swollen himself, and 80 poods were found in his well. rotten wheat, they showed us rotten lumps at the meeting. And such holes are opened every day ... ”[Art.] Medvedovskaya, SKK, the Molot collective farm - from Lisitsyn.

            10. Stavropol n / C, PO Box 91, I. Azarenko

            “... We have already completed the grain collection. Now all the attention is paid to the collection of seeds, as well as the preparation of draft power. You have to work very hard, but the results are dire. I am very offended that you call me an opportunist, but if you worked in the conditions in which the Komsomol works in the countryside now, you would understand me. Imagine this picture: there are collective farmers who are already swelling with hunger, and at the same time some have pits with grain. Well, is this not sabotage, and there are facts that a person swells with hunger, and if you rummage with him, you will find a pit of bread. Well, what to do with such bastards? And as a result, our village fulfilled the task only by 6,53% ... ”Novoleushkovskaya, SKK - from Shura.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 38 New
              0
              Quote: HanTengri
              Those. Did the rust epidemic and drought happen because of government policy? Are you exaggerating the ability of the Bolsheviks to influence material nature?

              And what natural forces prevented the communists from buying food abroad?
              Quote: HanTengri
              If collectivization (with all its excesses) were not accompanied by traditional folk amusements such as:

              Like the peasants take their crops, but they should be happy?
          2. Kwas
            Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: CSKA
            And where did I write that it deliberately organized it? It arose because of the policy of the authorities. Don't you know about collectivization?

            Can you tell us how you could have avoided it?
            1. bamu
              bamu 13 August 2020 22: 37 New
              0
              In 1933, when the people in the villages were dying of hunger, the USSR exported: wheat - 748 thousand tons, rye - 157 thousand tons, barley - 568 thousand tons,
              oats - 83 thousand tons, corn - 124 thousand tons, flour - 31,5 thousand tons.
              cow butter - 37,2 thousand tons; eggs 19.1 thousand box,
              sunflower oil - 13.4 thousand tons; canned fish / crab food - 22 thousand tons, sugar - 38 thousand tons.
              http://istmat.info/files/uploads/22114/vneshtorg_1937-1938_razdel_2.pdf
              Why didn't food export be stopped? Why didn't they turn to the world for help, as in 1921, when world aid helped save millions? There was no deliberate Holodomor, there was a huge, criminal incompetence of the authorities.
              1. bamu
                bamu 14 August 2020 06: 53 New
                0
                Why are you minus? What is not true? You should have lied about a happy and well-fed life?
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: bamu
                  Why are you minus? What is not true? You should have lied about a happy and well-fed life?

                  Minus because there is nothing to say. You cannot argue against facts.
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 August 2020 09: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Kwas
              Can you tell us how you could have avoided it?

              Do not be silent and cynically LIE to the whole world about "successes" in agriculture, calling people dying of hunger .... PROVIDED people, but to tell the TRUTH about a hunger and ASK the world for help and save millions from starvation, to which they brought their stupidity and inability to manage the household.

              And two-ALL years of the 1930s are years of horrific HUNGER (except for a piece of 1938 after the unprecedented harvest of 1937), just like the 1940s.

              A Russian man could eat like in 1913 only after FORTY years! See CSO report55
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Olgovich
                Do not be silent and cynically LIE to the whole world about "successes" in agriculture, calling people dying of hunger .... PROVIDED people, but to tell the TRUTH about a hunger and ASK the world for help and save millions from starvation, to which they brought their stupidity and inability to manage the household.

                And you could not even ask, but buy. So much gold and jewelry was taken from the people that it was already possible to buy it.
      2. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 13 August 2020 13: 28 New
        +8
        Quote: CSKA
        People do not shake that at any moment the authorities will come for them?

        Those who had their stigma in fluff shook.
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 13 August 2020 14: 56 New
          -11
          Quote: Alexander Green
          Those who had their stigma in fluff shook.

          Everyone was shaking because it was possible to write a denunciation on everyone.
          1. Alexander Greene
            Alexander Greene 13 August 2020 15: 44 New
            10
            Quote: CSKA
            Everyone was shaking because everyone could write a denunciation

            They did not arrest one denunciation.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 14 August 2020 09: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Green
              They did not arrest one denunciation.

              Exactly? Did you need two?
              1. Alexander Greene
                Alexander Greene 14 August 2020 14: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: CSKA
                Exactly? Did you need two?

                Not less, plus compromising evidence.
    4. Kwas
      Kwas 13 August 2020 19: 55 New
      0
      Quote: kot-begemot
      And his friend and colleague Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.

      It would be necessary to file a lawsuit to protect the honor and dignity of both. And also to open a case on the circumstances of the death of both.
      1. your1970
        your1970 8 October 2020 17: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Kwas
        Quote: kot-begemot
        And his friend and colleague Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.

        It would be necessary to file a lawsuit to protect the honor and dignity of both. And also to open a case on the circumstances of the death of both.
        -then half of the leadership of the USSR will be guilty of the death of the other half of the leadership
  3. Free wind
    Free wind 13 August 2020 06: 11 New
    +4
    I wonder who this IV suggested to Stalin to participate in the Marshal's plan. If the plan was aimed, and at weakening the influence of the USSR on Western Europe, squeezing the communists out of the leadership, and not just at its restoration.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 13 August 2020 06: 57 New
      +8
      I wonder who this IV suggested to Stalin to participate in the Marshal's plan
      Proposed personally by Marshall in January 1947 at the talks in Moscow on the participation of the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe in the Marshall Plan.
    2. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 09: 07 New
      -12
      Quote: Free Wind
      I wonder who this IV suggested to Stalin to participate in the Marshal's plan

      offered, offered. Molotov in Paris even discussed the plan with the French and British. Poles and Czechs were advised to consider joining. But with such polar views on P.M., which the USA and the USSR had, there were no prospects. Comrade Stalin broke off the inspired Czechs, summoning Gottlieb and Masaryk to Moscow.
      In general, Stalin's logic is iron. First, P.M. was an expansionist plan to establish the hegemony of the States, that's right. Secondly, Stalin wanted to be simply poured money and not set conditions on the disposal of them. He wanted something like a repetition of Lend-Lease, to which he was subtly hinted that the war was over and the format of relations was completely different. Thirdly (and this is the main thing), this would be the beginning of the end of the Union.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 13 August 2020 10: 39 New
        +2
        Well, negotiations are said loudly. Ours were invited in order to keep the appearance of decency. Ours needed a kind of protest demarche. Actually, everything happened, as both sides hoped for. This is how the Cold War began. Interestingly, in the United States, Marshall was accused of obvious sympathy for the Soviet Union, and it was after the war.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 10: 51 New
          -7
          Quote: Free Wind
          Interestingly, in the United States, Marshall was accused of obvious sympathy for the Soviet Union, and it was after the war.

          McCarthy was an idiot, that's clear. Obviously out of sympathy for the USSR, Marshal created NATO. Apparently out of sympathy for the Reds, he was appointed defense minister with the outbreak of the Korean War. Wallace really was red by American standards.
  4. apro
    apro 13 August 2020 06: 34 New
    13
    An example of how to raise the country without gas and oil for the second time ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 13 August 2020 08: 06 New
      -21
      Quote: apro
      An example of how to raise the country without gas and oil for the second time ...

      Did you miss the new Denikins and Wrangels?

      In the 90s, they seized all power in Russia. In each village council their person sits ... It is not necessary to plunge the country into the fire of civil war again. We must quietly, calmly change the laws (the Constitution) and life will improve.

      Remember how we lived under the Stalinist Constitution and how we live under Yeltsin's.
      1. apro
        apro 13 August 2020 08: 12 New
        12
        Quote: Boris55
        Did you miss the new Denikins and Wrangels?

        Boris, I didn't quite understand your idea ...
        Quote: Boris55
        We must quietly, calmly change the laws (the Constitution) and life will improve.

        No one will just return the stolen property ... and no piece of paper will help with this.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 13 August 2020 08: 20 New
          -18
          Quote: apro
          Boris, I didn't quite understand your idea ..

          Before the "economic miracle" began, the country was completely protected from enemies, and those that remained crawled under the bench and did not bark. Today the country is still occupied.

          There are two ways to get rid of the occupation:
          - unleash a civil war,
          - but it is possible (as they did in 93) to change the rules of the game (to change the Constitution).

          Quote: apro
          No one will just return the stolen property ...

          The West will help us in this matter. The President, through the conduct of foreign policy, makes our bourgeois turn all the loot into the country. Today they can no longer pass on political power by inheritance (residency qualification) and this is only the beginning.

          In our country, unlike the West, political power is superior to economic power.
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 08: 33 New
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            Boris55 (Boris)
            There are two ways to get rid of the occupation:
            - unleash a civil war,
            - but it is possible (as they did in 93) to change the rules of the game (to change the Constitution).
            Do not make you laugh with your "constitution", it does not carry ANY gobal changes. And its goal is to zero the deadlines and nothing more.
            And when in the modern Russian Federation were the laws observed, no matter how good they were?
            Nothing prevented Stalin from carrying out the purges among the top staff and there was a result. What now? The deck of untouchables is simply shuffled, crap in one place, well, nothing else, the main thing is that you are out of the cage.
            So, as in Krylov's fable, and you friends do not sit down, all are not suitable for musicians!
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 13 August 2020 08: 56 New
              -16
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Do not make you laugh with your "constitution", it does not carry ANY gobal changes.

              Then why are you so scared? laughing
              Imagine that tomorrow the Constitutional Assembly (the law on which has not yet been adopted) will adopt the Stalin Constitution in full - will the changes follow or not?

              Quote: Varyag_0711
              And its goal is to zero the deadlines and nothing more.

              So it still brings changes? laughing
              Do you understand the meaning of limiting the presidential term in office?
              What is the difference between presidential power in the West and ours? In my opinion - no.

              Quote: Varyag_0711
              And when in the modern Russian Federation were the laws observed, no matter how good they were?

              Always, and those who violate them, sit if they do not have time to escape to London, where a chic bath and a beautiful scarf are waiting for them.
              1. Vladimir B.
                Vladimir B. 13 August 2020 18: 02 New
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                Firstly, this is not even possible to imagine.
                Secondly, if this happens, then nothing will change. Power and the political system are not the ones that would live according to the Stalin Constitution. The Stalinist Constitution was for the Soviet People's Power, not for the capitalist-oligarchic system.
            2. CSKA
              CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 48 New
              -16
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Nothing prevented Stalin from carrying out the purges among the top staff and there was a result.

              ))))) What result? Unlimited power?
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              The untouchable deck is just shuffled

              And Stalin himself was the one to touch?
          2. CSKA
            CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 47 New
            -13
            Quote: Boris55
            Today the country is still occupied.

            Who occupied not tell?
      2. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 08: 55 New
        -9
        Quote: Boris55
        Remember how we lived under the Stalinist Constitution

        how old are you?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 13 August 2020 09: 00 New
          -2
          Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
          how old are you?

          Enough to remember the stories of dad and mom and grandparents.
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 09: 11 New
            -13
            ooh, I get it. That is, in other words, you propose to remember the memories of your grandmother?
          2. Kwas
            Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: Boris55
            Enough to remember the stories of dad and mom and grandparents.

            Family legends are an unreliable source because they are biased. But we believe him, because we ourselves are biased.
            It is not enough to remember the stories of ancestors, you must also be able to analyze them.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 13 August 2020 16: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
          Quote: Boris55
          Remember how we lived under the Stalinist Constitution

          how old are you?

          We lived under the Stalinist Constitution and believed in a happy future, in contrast to the constitution of the EBN-ovsky period with its amendments and promises of direct entry to heaven.
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 16: 39 New
            -7
            well, that's understandable - nostalgia is there and then. What do you want? So that the young people will be nostalgic with you in chorus for what they have a vague idea of ​​at the level of mythology and oral legends? Stalin is undoubtedly a large-scale historical person, among others who influenced the course of history of the 20th century, no one disputes, but why impose his adoration of the leader on the young?
            1. Kwas
              Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 26 New
              +3
              Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
              So that the young people will be nostalgic with you in chorus for what they have a vague idea of ​​at the level of mythology and oral legends?

              Youngsters, seeing heated debates, begin to think, look for information and compare it. And this is necessary. Most will understand, maybe they will be smarter than us, the country will not be sold again.
              1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 21: 05 New
                -2
                Optimistic. But hardly. Stalin is a figure as great as he is contradictory. For you, he is the undisputed protagonist and genius of all time. It is not a fact that after reading, the young will not come to the absolutely opposite. And so it will be more likely - they have their own matrix, and authoritarians do not fit into it. Well, they don't need the USSR.
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 14 August 2020 07: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: ROSS 42
            We lived under the Stalinist Constitution and believed in a happy future

            Many are unaware that the Stalinist Constitution was in effect until 1977.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 August 2020 06: 41 New
    +1
    As for me, the social star. Labor had to be given to everyone who returned from the war, wounded, lost his family, loved ones and still stood at the machine, taking up the trowel and mortar!
    People themselves still lived in dugouts (I saw a photo of 1954), and restored cities, factories, bridges and roads!
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 07: 30 New
      16
      People just did what they had to, what they thought was right and necessary. And they worked not for awards, but for conscience. I don’t know how anyone, but personally, after the war, my grandfather never put on either his officer’s uniform or his awards. NEVER WEARED!
      1. apro
        apro 13 August 2020 07: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        People just did what they had to, what they thought was right and necessary

        And where did they know it? Or maybe the CPSU (b), on the basis of the communist theory, set tasks, monitored the implementation, planned new tasks ... and ruled out a little profit for the pocket ...
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 07: 45 New
          16
          So I don’t argue, Stalin's merit, first of all, is that he made the party apparatus work first of all. And not just work, but be responsible for what you have done. That is why the results are so outstanding.
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 10: 04 New
            -10
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            And not just work, but be responsible for what you have done

            work for fear?
            1. Kwas
              Kwas 13 August 2020 20: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
              work for fear?

              For a bottom-up lift to work, a top-down lift must also work.
              1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                Dr. Frankenstucker 13 August 2020 22: 34 New
                0
                This is true.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 13 August 2020 16: 31 New
      +6
      At that time, working people considered this award the highest distinction. There were also the Orders of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of the Badge of Honor (my father had such an award) ... The Hero of Labor was not given for embezzlement and fraud with budget funds ... yes That's for sure... yes
      If only they put on “camp clift” or smeared the forehead with “green” ...
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 13 August 2020 07: 35 New
    0
    The Soviet Union went from an incredible post-war takeoff to a fall into the abyss.
    ... From intensive production, to extensive ...
  7. bandabas
    bandabas 13 August 2020 08: 27 New
    0
    These "rulers" live on their enthusiasm.
  8. atos_kin
    atos_kin 13 August 2020 08: 28 New
    +6
    The real Leader and Father of nations could not work otherwise. He devoted his life not to himself, but to people.
  9. nikvic46
    nikvic46 13 August 2020 08: 36 New
    12
    Now they criticize both the canals and the great construction sites that were built in those days. But nevertheless, they do not hesitate to become the masters of all this. I drew attention to something else. All the great men of science either took place during the time of Stalin, or learned under him. The post-war period of the country requires showing in books, in films. And what is shown now only destroys our person.
    1. CSKA
      CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 51 New
      -9
      Quote: nikvic46
      Canals and great construction projects are scolded now

      Who and when scolded any construction site?
      Quote: nikvic46
      All the great men of science either took place during the time of Stalin, or learned under him

      And they also sat like, for example, Korolev.
  10. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 13 August 2020 08: 44 New
    +6
    Such, for example, as a regular and very significant reduction in prices for almost all consumer goods, from food to motorcycles and televisions.
    In the current conditions it seems that this is generally from another universe ... that's what the "bloody communists" did.
    1. CSKA
      CSKA 13 August 2020 11: 52 New
      -12
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      In the current conditions it seems that this is generally from another universe ... that's what the "bloody communists" did.

      Yes, under Stalin, prices were reduced by a penny. But there were no TVs and few could afford to buy motorcycles.
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 13 August 2020 16: 46 New
        15
        CSKA (Sergey)
        Yes, under Stalin, prices were reduced by a penny.
        So for a penny? Yes, and Stalin's kopeck would have saved more than one hundred rubles today.
        But there were no TVs
        What are you ?! Where have you been? IN THE USA?
        and few people could afford to buy motorcycles.
        Oh really?

        Where are you from fool fool fool woodpeckers came running? Not out of 404 in an hour?
  11. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 13 August 2020 09: 31 New
    13
    THE GREAT WAS, THE GREAT AND REMAINED, THE CHOPS OF WORLD POLITICS, and no matter how they say, the storytellers and talkers did not scold them to repeat what HE did when they would never succeed. This is also confirmed by Western experts that no country in the world has been able to repeat such an upsurge and breakthrough. There was everything for the PEOPLE, now everything is for a handful of certain snickering officials and oligarchs.
  12. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 13 August 2020 10: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    Everything that Stalin did was successfully reset in 1991 (partly earlier)

    Marshall Plan Members:

    Austria
    Belgium
    United Kingdom
    West Germany
    Greece
    Denmark
    Ireland
    Iceland
    Italy
    Luxembourg
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Portugal
    Free territory of Trieste
    Turkey
    France
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    Apart from Turkey, all other countries are rich and successful ... but how is the former USSR doing in 2020? Except for the Baltics, all are developing countries of the 3rd world.

    All the children of the state (except for Turkey and Greece) beat more or less wealth and success before the Second World War and remained where they beat after the Marshal Plan. Greece and Turkey also remained neither wealthy nor successful despite the Marshal Plan. Only the United States made the economies of these countries completely dependent thanks to the Marshal Plan.
  13. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 13 August 2020 11: 35 New
    0
    The article is accurate and correct. Except for the last line, which is more suitable for 1986 or 1991.
  14. Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 13 August 2020 13: 20 New
    +7
    The rapid restoration of the national economy of the USSR after the war testifies to the fact that the numbers of Soviet people killed in the Venlik Patriotic War are greatly exaggerated. Today they are already talking about 43 million. And who then restored the country?
  15. BAI
    BAI 13 August 2020 14: 36 New
    10
    Here Mr. Shpakovsky once wrote about food in the USSR, let's go from the same side.
    There is such a book from 1957 with such illustrations.




    And, looking at the captions to the illustrations, we can conclude that by 1957 the sea fishing fleet of the USSR was not only restored, but also supplied the USSR with seafood in a sufficient range and quantity.
    So to speak, an illustration of the restoration of one branch of the national economy. It is obvious that the main work on the restoration of the fishing fleet was done under Stalin.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 13 August 2020 16: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      It is obvious that the main work on the restoration of the fishing fleet was done under Stalin.

      Even after the monetary reform, sprat cost 7 kopecks per kilo, and in public catering, Thursday was designated a fish day.
      By the way ... Most fish varieties were cheaper than meat.
  16. PavelM
    PavelM 13 August 2020 17: 26 New
    +4
    Quote: CSKA
    Who occupied not tell?

    It is occupied by those who were not cleansed at 37.
    Clear?
    1. bamu
      bamu 14 August 2020 07: 09 New
      -1
      It is occupied by those who were not cleaned at 37

      Eh, they did not manage to kill the Queen in the camp, but they managed to kill his colleagues: Langemak (shot), I. T. Kleymenov (shot). Tupolev and his comrades also did not have time to clean up in 1937, and the designer of the T-34 A.O. Firsov had time. Landau was also not cleaned up, but it could be one less Nobel.
      Vavilov was able to starve to death in prison, or maybe the achievements of the genetics of the USSR would be proud.
  17. imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 August 2020 18: 55 New
    -7
    Despite the more than successful leadership of the country during the largest and most difficult war in its entire history, It's sarcasm?
    This point of view of his is brilliantly proved by the incredible, contrary to all the laws of economics and admirable act today: the restoration of the Soviet Union after the Great Patriotic War. How to understand this? What admiration have you seen the graphics? Even the strained ones reflect horror! It was even better under Khrushchev. What is fascinating is the vertical growth of the US economy during the Second World War!, and not marking time under Stalin. If we discard the military component, then for 30 years the economy not only did not develop, but fell! Study the numbers!
  18. imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 August 2020 18: 59 New
    -7
    Quote: Vladimir B.
    Not just a leader, he was a real Leader and Patriot of the country and all peoples inhabiting the great country of the USSR

    He despised the Russian people, he loved only the Caucasian.
  19. imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 August 2020 19: 05 New
    -8
    Quote: Tatiana
    The article is correct!
    Stalin for the common people was truly a true leader!


    No one was afraid of Stalin. They spat on us, they didn't even consider in foreign policy, they wanted to bomb us, they bombed
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 August 2020 19: 15 New
      +4
      Judging by your statements, only you were bombed ...
      ... The detachment did not notice the loss of a soldier ...
  20. imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 August 2020 19: 48 New
    -4
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Judging by your statements, only you were bombed ...
    ... The detachment did not notice the loss of a soldier ...

    How the USA calmly bombed the USSR under Stalin
    https://primamedia.ru/news/466023/
  21. Pavel57
    Pavel57 13 August 2020 20: 08 New
    0
    Stalin had an excellent finance minister.
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 13 August 2020 20: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Mikoyan alone slipped between the drops ... as always, as always.


    Mikoyan stood behind Khrushchev in debunking Stalin.
  23. imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 August 2020 21: 23 New
    -4
    Quote: Alexander Green
    The rapid restoration of the national economy of the USSR after the war testifies to the fact that the numbers of Soviet people killed in the Venlik Patriotic War are greatly exaggerated. Today they are already talking about 43 million. And who then restored the country?
    Hmm ... level of knowledge. Then what better way to compare indirect losses? The population of China and Russia before the revolution is approximately the same. The birth rate is the same. Now let's compare the number of Chinese and Russians, just do not dump by 90, during these years in China there was a ban on children. How much have we lost?
  24. Shah909
    Shah909 13 August 2020 21: 40 New
    0
    Whoever said what, Stalin was the greatest ruler. There were none and I do not believe that there will be more. Nobody loved Russia so much. He put together a team and made him get infected with work. He plowed and forced everyone. He was cool. After him every worse friend goes. They bury Russia with patrochs and will never finish off the legacy of Stalinism. 5+ to Joseph Stalin.
  25. Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 August 2020 11: 56 New
    +1
    This is not a Stalinist miracle, but the unity of the people and the top. Stalin is the conductor of the aspirations of the people!
  26. place
    place 14 August 2020 13: 45 New
    0
    [quote = imobile2008] [quote = Alexander Green]. Today they are already talking about 43 million. And who then restored the country? [/ Quote] Hmm ... the level of knowledge. Then what better way to compare indirect losses? The population of China and Russia before the revolution is approximately the same.
    ------------------

    [b] A strange method of comparison .... like: "we should have children like the Chinese, and produce goods like the Americans." And your statements are strange: the population of China by 1900 was not "approximately the same", but 400 million! Hmm ... level of knowledge .....


    And as for the military losses - learn the math. According to the 1939 census, about 170 million people lived in the USSR. The first six months of the Second World War were not successful for the USSR, and in the territories occupied by the Germans were approx. 40 million
    What's in the balance? Approximately 130 million working and fighting! Only by the summer of 1944 these territories were liberated .... The conscription age in the USSR remained at 18 years until the end of the war.

    And what did the enemy have? At the beginning of the Second World War, the entire population of Western Europe was controlled by Hitler, in 1943, there was total mobilization, in 1944 the draft age was from 16 years old, in 1945, EVERYONE who can hold a weapon from 12 years old went to the front. Now think, who had problems with human resources at the end of the war?
  27. Yuri Nemov
    Yuri Nemov 14 August 2020 13: 51 New
    -1
    Oh well, just so ingenious - he was simply not knowing where to go. Straight here three classes and the corridor graduated and immediately became a genius! And I also read a lot of books and say. And that's it, just the son of the Sun, and the great leader of all times !!! Only now the beginning of the war fucked up, almost 4 million prisoners of the Red Army in several months of the war! Complete rout of the regular army! Well, it's not the great leader who is to blame, these were stupid generals, but the people were irresponsible. But all the victories are only his merit! And defeats are generals who are stupid! This is how myths are born.
    1. place
      place 14 August 2020 15: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Yuri Nemov
      And that's it, just the son of the Sun, and the great leader of all times !!! Only now the beginning of the war fucked up, almost 4 million prisoners of the Red Army in several months of the war!

      --------------------------

      1. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, published in 2005, during the Great Patriotic War only captured 4,559 million Soviet servicemen were caught.
      2. According to the historian GF Krivosheev, during the Great Patriotic War, 3 396 400 servicemen were missing and taken prisoner.
      3. According to German sources, the total number of Soviet prisoners of war in 1944 is about 5 million.
      CONCLUSION- Mr. "Yuri Nemov" surpassed even the Germans in the number of Soviet prisoners of war.

      In addition, Mr. Nemov "did NOT screw up the beginning of the war." Hurray comrades !!!
      He and people like him fucked up their country in 1991 and 1993, even without any war.
      That's who we have grown to the title of Son of the Sun ..
  28. Looking for
    Looking for 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
    0
    JV Stalin was wise and looked years ahead.
  29. imobile2008
    imobile2008 14 August 2020 13: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Shah909
    Nobody loved Russia so much.

    Ага. When the Russians defended their homelands during the war, they shared the last piece of bread with each other, in the Caucasus they ate barbecue and did not deny themselves anything. No thanks, we don't need such love!
  30. BUSEYN
    BUSEYN 14 August 2020 18: 08 New
    -2
    It was difficult to read the article. How did the country survive in the post-war years? The collective farmers did not receive grain for the workday. Those who do not work 200 workdays (free) go to the camps. From their farm (they were engaged in their free time, there were no days off), it was necessary to hand over to the state 1 pork skin, 0.5 cattle skins, etc. The surplus appropriation system was introduced in full. Dystrophy, cannibalism, death of children in the first place. And after that, be proud that the grain was not imported. This can only be done without giving a damn about people. There is much more to say, but you will not believe, you are city descendants. I have no doubt that STALIN IS THE GREAT. But we look at everything objectively.
    1. place
      place 14 August 2020 19: 29 New
      0
      Quote: BUSEYN
      It was difficult to read the article

      Quote: BUSEYN
      it is necessary to hand over 1 pork skin to the state Dystrophy, cannibalism, death of children in the first place.

      --------------------------

      Sorry, but my ancestors lived in a post-war village in RUSSIA. And nobody died. And about the "camp" and 200 days have not heard. Keeping pigs in a subsidiary farm - no one could force them - that's for sure .... But then, how could they be "handed over"? Weekends in the village - all winter long ........

      Well, the "surplus appropriation" was carried out "in full" even under Kerensky in March 1917. Aren't you confused? What kind of "surplus appropriation" can be if working on your own farm is a private business of the collective farmer? For a start, you'd better knock yourself hard on your forehead ...

      I understand that I am encroaching on your sacred libber .. but isn't the liberal lies too thick?
      1. BUSEYN
        BUSEYN 14 August 2020 22: 07 New
        0
        Sorry if offended, but sorry for you. I am 62 years old. I spoke to the grandmothers of 1904 and 1906). With father and mother (eternal memory to all of them). All this is known firsthand. Another subscription to government loans. These papers were kept by my parents, I saw them. They told how this loan came about. Here is what I wrote about this to the Council for Collective Farm Affairs I.P. Rokhmanov from the collective farm. Dzerzhinsky Moylovsky village council, Khvastovichsky district, Kaluga region: “We have been living in peace for the fifth year and it’s more and more difficult every year ... State taxes are growing ... If in 1949 I paid 375 rubles and handed over 40 kg of meat, then in 1950 - 550 rubles and 44 kg of meat. And all the livestock - a goat and a little pig. We don't see money, because they don’t give out anything for workdays. We live only on our own potatoes with our daughter, and whoever has a big family, the children swell from hunger. "
  31. swyatoslav
    swyatoslav 15 August 2020 18: 11 New
    +1
    Yes, this is not a Stalinist miracle, but a Russian one! It was the people who restored the country. Hungry, falling from fatigue and from the kicks of the guards.
    If the Japanese raised the country from the post-war ruins - this is a JAPANESE miracle, the Germans - GERMAN and so on. We know both Korean and Chinese, and many other economic miracles-breakthroughs. But the economic rise of the USSR is not called Russian for some reason. Taboo!
    The Stalinists were in advance here too, and the merits of the whole PEOPLE were attributed to Dzhugashvili alone. And they applaud and groan with emotion .... everything is like in the 37th.
  32. hjvtp1966
    hjvtp1966 16 August 2020 08: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Kwas
    Quote: CSKA
    And where did I write that it deliberately organized it? It arose because of the policy of the authorities. Don't you know about collectivization?

    Can you tell us how you could have avoided it?



    What was the purpose of the enormous human sacrifices and hardships? A desire to show the advantages of a socialist economy, to improve people's living standards? Not. The Soviet military-industrial complex became the priority for the nomenklatura during the first and second five-year plans. In 1928-1929, the military expenditures of the "country of victorious socialism" amounted to 93 million pounds, and in 1932 - already about 140 million. If, as of January 1, 1932, there were 1446 tanks and 213 armored vehicles in the Red Army, then on January 1, 1934 - 7574 tanks and 326 armored vehicles - more than the armies of Great Britain, France and Nazi Germany combined.

    Kirill Alexandrov 15.05.2009, 10:24
    Industrialization versus the Great Depression
    Russians are still convinced of the positive nature of the first Stalinist five-year plans
    newspaperru
  33. Leon Crash
    Leon Crash 18 August 2020 14: 00 New
    0
    The people went on the attack with words for the Motherland, for Stalin,. Then they raised the Country under these slogans. Half of the planet was in mourning after the death of this Great Man, and how does the language of some people call him a stick and a murderer?
  34. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 4 September 2020 17: 25 New
    0
    The author did not mention the OBLIGATORY ACQUISITION OF STATE LOAN BONDS by the citizens of the USSR with their very modest salaries in the post-war period
  35. Vladimir Volk
    Vladimir Volk 24 October 2020 06: 25 New
    0
    The Council of Europe decided: J. Stalin bears equal responsibility for unleashing 2 MV, with A. Hitler. Only complete deranged individuals can glorify the bloody executioner, who is guilty of the death of tens of millions of people. The stream of the individual's consciousness fights against suggested ideas, like an organism with bacteria, striving to destroy the stability of balance.Why are they instilling disease here?