Corvette "Vasily Bykov" arrived at the Northern Fleet to test weapons

Black Sea Patrol Ship fleet "Vasily Bykov" project 22160 made an inter-fleet transition to the Northern Fleet for testing weapons. This was reported by the press service of the fleet.

According to the report, the ship passed through the internal water communications and the Belomorkanal system from the south of the country to the north and arrived at the Belomorsk naval base. The ship will take part in testing naval weapons systems. Soon, it will be joined by a small missile ship (MRK) of project 21631 "Green Dol" and MRK of project 22800 "Odintsovo".

The lead patrol ship of Project 22160 "Vasily Bykov" has arrived at the White Sea naval base of the Northern Fleet for testing naval weapons systems. He made the transition to the White Sea through inland water communications and the Belomorkanal system. Tests will provide the forces of the White Sea naval base of the Northern Fleet

- said in a statement.

The press service does not explain what kind of weapon the patrol ship of Project 22160 Vasily Bykov will test, because its standard armament includes: 57-mm artillery mount, anti-aircraft missile system and machine guns. Most likely, the ship will take part in testing new combat modules based on sea containers.

It was reported that testing of combat modules based on conventional 20- and 40-foot sea containers will take place at the Northern Fleet's sea ranges in mid-July this year. They should be completed by the end of this year. Based on the results of the tests, a decision will be made to install weapons systems and special equipment assembled inside conventional sea containers on various types of ships, the design of which provides for this.

Comments

[Bashkirkhan]

This is not a corvette, but a patrolman. In theory, these patrolmen were supposed to conserve the resource of rank 1 and 2 ships, so as not to distract them to participate in the Joint Anti-Piracy Squadron in the Somalia-Yemen region. However, piracy in the area died about five or six years ago, and not thanks to international naval efforts. Piracy was eradicated in a relatively short time by the presence of armed guards on board commercial ships. A group of fighters of 4 people was constantly on board - a constant watch on the bridge, when a suspicious floating craft approached at a distance of less than 2 cables - opening fire to kill. Potential pirates, having become acquainted with this practice, quickly realized one thing - approaching foreign commercial ships is fraught with frustration. The armed guards on board had nothing to do with the joint squadron, flag administrations, or shipowners (by and large); the presence of guards was squeezed by insurance companies, who were tired of paying for the kidnapped crews. As a result, 22160 was not useful as an anti-pirate ship.

[RUnnm]

And if we assume that there are pirates not only in Somalia, but also on the Black Sea coast, in a country dreaming of creating a mosquito fleet?

[Bashkirkhan]

Well, Ukraine is not Somalia or the CAR. They have the Neptune anti-ship missile system, while the 22160 has no air defense.

[RUnnm]

And if we take a situation similar to the already existing provocation at the Kerch bridge? There was also no use of anti-ship missiles. And although he is not an expert in this matter, is there a possibility of covering it with air defense, ground-based? Or is the ship not needed from the word "absolutely" in the Black Sea Fleet?

[Bashkirkhan]

Border guards must work at the bridge. They have Fireflies for these purposes. Patrolman 22160 has an autonomy of 60 days for other purposes.

[Alex777]

The press service does not explain what kind of weapon the patrol ship of Project 22160 Vasily Bykov will test, because its standard armament includes: 57-mm artillery mount, anti-aircraft missile system and machine guns. Most likely, the ship will take part in testing new combat modules based on sea containers.

Colleagues! Tell me about 57-mm artillery mount and anti-aircraft missile system.
It is very interesting to find out where they came from on Bykovo.

[Bashkirkhan]

Journalists, how do they know that this is a military-style yacht with a three-inch, the place of the air defense missile system is occupied by a gym.

[Alex777]

So it is so!

[Foxnova]

With a basketball hoop please note

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alex777

Colleagues! Tell me about a 57mm gun mount and an anti-aircraft missile system.
It is very interesting to find out where they came from on Bykovo.

So I can explain.
The 57-mm mount was taken from the old articles on 22160, when the Petrel still cherished the hope of shoving their A-220M into the fleet. In fact, the Navy, once again, refused to reduce the caliber and supplied the AK-176.
And with the word "SAM" the journalists call "Gibka". Which is unsuitable even for repelling a helicopter raid with an ATGM.

[Alex777]

To that 57-mm, from the initial project, they promised the Shtil-1 2x8 air defense system. But it did not grow together.
And in that Shtil-1 2x8, Shtil's developers promised 1x4 9M100 packages in each cell. But it also did not grow together. IMHO.

[Bashkirkhan]

But there is a shower room and a gym. On a long hike, this is paramount. Physical training is important for SPN, where each person is a weapon by himself.

[Alex777]

I agree! General Ivanov objected.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

But there is a shower room and a gym. On a long hike, this is paramount. Physical training is important for SPN, where each person is a weapon by himself.

The problem is that concept has changed - while the ships were being built, their targets disappeared.
And they ended up in the fleet of "doves of peace", unsuitable for anything but flag demonstrations.

[Alex777]

The problem is that the concept has changed - while the ships were being built, their targets disappeared. smile

I'm not ready to agree with you.
As it was an inconspicuous reconnaissance ship, it remained. As it was a delivery vehicle for SPN, it remains so. I am sure that he has tasks that they forgot to tell us about and will not be going to do it soon.
And Calibers can now fly from anywhere. There is no INF Treaty and it looks like it will no longer exist.

[timokhin-aa]

He is not reconnaissance, he lacks intelligence equipment.

[Alex777]

Do you know exactly?

[timokhin-aa]

I know for sure.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alex777

As it was an inconspicuous reconnaissance ship, it remained.

22160 was never RZK and a delivery vehicle for special forces. It was originally designed as a PSKR for the FSB, and only then Chirkov and the company shoved it into the fleet. "Delivery of special forces" is an owl pulling on the globe in an attempt to substantiate the presence on board the naval ship of inherited premises and delivery vehicles for inspection groups of border guards.

[timokhin-aa]

There is too narrow a body for Calm. He does not go there corny. Only the caps to the model climb from above.

[Alex777]

You have to be sure to argue.
If I find anything, I'll send it.
Could a shortened WPU have been planned? Under 9M100?

[timokhin-aa]

I don’t know, I can’t answer the question.

[Cyril G ...]

IT'S THE ILLEGANCY OF JOURNALERS

[Thrifty]

Bashkirkhan, uk-roina is now in a stupor, because their media are screaming that our FSB patrol ship entered their territorial waters, and turned around 3,5 km from Berdyansk, and to the screams from the ukrovoyaks, ours sent them, stating that the Ukrainians were us and not nearly a decree! So, except for their dirty tishka, they are not able to invent anything else!

[Bashkirkhan]

You cannot relax, provocations are possible.

[Charik]

but the fact that this boat can go along the rivers, under the cover of ground air defense

[donavi49]

But he is not needed against these pirates.

What is the basis of this ship?
- Seaworthy hull lines + good economic move, to the detriment of everything else.
- High comfort of the crew, adaptability to long-distance cruises in the tropical zone for 60 days.
- Airborne helicopter with a hangar and a large supply of fuel, again for active autonomous operation, and not like the same 20380 - 2 refueling and that's it.
- The power plant and the entire propulsion complex are tuned to economic and resource modes of operation.
- Armament, even for naked Somalis, is not very good. Against the reincarnation of the Cossack Gulls, he is not armed at all, because to shoot 76mm cannons = guaranteed corpses, probable drowning or destruction, and in general, this is only implemented on Putin's orders, and local forces only selective fire on a machine, for example. And from this, he only has 2 MTPU columns with Korda, where sailors will shoot at a mechanical sight with an emphasis on the shoulder.

As a result, to counter the Black Sea pirates, he does not have:
- speeds
- maneuverability
- suitable weapons

But its advantages are simply not needed there. Yes, and BO copes well. They have fast, maneuverable and adequately armed PSKR right there. Moreover, the incident between the BO and the Naval Forces of Ukraine = these are border graters, the level of the Chinese and Indians in Ladakh. But fleet to fleet is already a serious political decision.

And if you really need 76, then BO also has it.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: donavi49

What is the basis of this ship?
- Seaworthy hull lines + good economic move, to the detriment of everything else.
- High comfort of the crew, adaptability to long-distance cruises in the tropical zone for 60 days.
- Airborne helicopter with a hangar and a large supply of fuel, again for active autonomous operation, and not like the same 20380 - 2 refueling and that's it.
- The power plant and the entire propulsion complex are tuned to economic and resource modes of operation.

Simply put, this is an ordinary PSKR, which, by the will of Chirkov, got into the fleet.

[keleg]

PSKR for DMZ with mobilization capabilities. Its operation and construction are 3-4 times cheaper than that of frigates, respectively, and will be used for secondary or special tasks in the far sea zone, where the frigate is pitifully expensive and suboptimal to drive.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: keleg

Its operation and construction are 3-4 times cheaper than that of frigates, respectively, and will be used for secondary or special tasks in the far sea zone, where the frigate is pitifully expensive and suboptimal to drive.

The problem is that 6 years after the decision to build and a year and a half after the adoption by the fleet of the lead ship of project 22160, this patrolman cannot solve any problems due to the lack of technical means on board to solve them. Air defense - no and never will (the place is occupied). PLO - only an onboard helicopter, no shipborne means. Fighting NK and coastal targets - only AK-176.

[Alex777]

What is the basis of this ship?
- Seaworthy hull lines + good economic move, to the detriment of everything else.
- High comfort of the crew, adaptability to long-distance cruises in the tropical zone for 60 days.
- Airborne helicopter with a hangar and a large supply of fuel, again for active autonomous operation, and not like the same 20380 - 2 refueling and that's it.
- The power plant and the entire propulsion complex are tuned to economic and resource modes of operation.

A reconnaissance ship, for example, will come in handy.
You don't know for certain the composition of the REO, do you?

[Alex 2020]

What are you so grasping at this, intelligence, intelligence ... but not any of it. Neither a reconnaissance, nor a patrol, nor a corvette! so expensive sawing toy has no practical use. It provides neither anti-aircraft defense, nor air defense, nor escort, nor OVR. Neither your own nor anything else. The composition of weapons and electronic equipment does not allow this. He has no normal weapons. And for the purposes of OVR, there are more suitable ships and boats, equipped with the necessary and as expected. (See samples above)

[Captain45]

Quote: RUnnm

And if we assume that there are pirates not only in Somalia, but also on the Black Sea coast, in a country dreaming of creating a mosquito fleet?

You, nevertheless, directly, anticipated my thought, removed from the keyboard, so to speak

[antivirus]

in a country dreaming of creating a mosquito fleet?

-fly swatter from Sevastopol. sounds

[mdsr]

Most likely, the ship will take part in testing new combat modules based on sea containers.

Quite possible. But why are 2 RTOs of different projects being driven there? They have nowhere to put the containers there. Maybe just to work out a possible transfer to the Northern Fleet, if necessary?

[Nehist]

What containers? If those with calibers are expensive. Dull saw money modularity concept

[Borik]

But why are 2 RTOs of different projects being driven there?

Maybe just to work out a possible transfer to the Northern Fleet, if necessary?

And in addition to this, I think they want to check how these ships will behave in the north if suddenly such a need arises, although the RTOs of project 22800 are already planned to be delivered to the north and they will check it for professional suitability.

[Alexey RA]

The press service does not explain what kind of weapon the patrol ship of project 22160 "Vasily Bykov" will test, because its standard armament includes: 57-mm gun mount, anti-aircraft missile system and machine guns.

Shaw, again? ©
How many times have already written that the Navy once again refused to take their 57-mm cannon from the Burevestnik and installed a modernized AK-22160 on 176.

[Shilka]

Most likely, the ship will take part in testing new combat modules based on sea containers.

This is what I really liked .. It seems like a simple boat, and from it they can make a powerful combat unit, depending on the tasks assigned in a particular combat situation. Not bad conceived! God forbid

[petrol cutter]

"Project 22160 patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet Vasily Bykov has made an inter-fleet passage to the Northern Fleet for testing weapons, the press service of the fleet reports."
Honestly, gentlemen, this message surprised me for a minute. Weapons testing? ... And to waste precious engine resources? ...
And why does Cape Chauda exist in Crimea, for example? ...
". Most likely, the ship will take part in testing new combat modules based on sea containers."
Again, what kind of modules / containers are there that you need to drive a steamer across the whole country? .. When the railway is already working to its fullest. Isn't it easier to bring the container to the same Sevas (or where it is based there) by rail ?!
Miracles.
Let's drive the submarine SF to shoot at Chauda! The Turks will get crazy from this development of events! And UA- will generally request political asylum in Bolivia ...

[keleg]

Only the Northern Fleet has a range for testing long-range missiles. Black and Baltic are too small for this.

[Pavel57]

The zircons will be delivered and calmed down.