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Rosstat released data on the fall of Russia's GDP

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According to preliminary estimates, the fall in GDP in the second quarter is lower than previously predicted values.


It amounted to 8,5% in annual terms. The main reasons for this are factors caused by the global coronavirus pandemic.

This is evidenced by the data of Rosstat.

Despite the fact that such a large-scale quarterly decline in GDP in Russia has not been observed for almost 11 years, the preliminary forecasts of the authorities were even more gloomy. The Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation assumed that the second quarter will show a drop in Russian GDP in the second quarter in annual terms by 9,5 percent. A similar situation was predicted by the Central Bank.

At the same time, Rosstat assessed the situation based on data on medium and large businesses, completely ignoring the situation in small business, where about one fifth of the Russian economy is concentrated.

The largest drop was shown by the transport industry due to a decrease in passenger turnover by about 79 percent. But in the same period, agriculture recorded an increase of 3 percent.

The Ministry of Economic Development supposes that the economy will recover gradually. The main factor affecting its pace will be the epidemiological situation in the country.

According to the government's June forecasts, the overall drop in GDP by the end of the year could be about 5 percent.
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https://rosstat.gov.ru
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  1. Asad
    Asad 12 August 2020 09: 31
    0
    As the saying goes, we will survive this trouble, Not the first crisis, and certainly not the last!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 12 August 2020 09: 42
      -4
      As the saying goes, we will survive this trouble, Not the first crisis, and certainly not the last!

      Not everyone will survive .. the population is actively declining
      https://www.rbc.ru/economics/24/01/2020/5e2ac0d29a794776cb833825
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 12 August 2020 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        population is declining

        I'm looking at how self-isolation has affected the families of my relatives and, in part, acquaintances ... Not financially ... And I would venture to suggest that at the end of this year - the beginning of the next, the birth rate in the country will grow solidly)))
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 August 2020 09: 51
          +3
          Quote: Lesovik
          And I would venture to suggest that at the end of this year - the beginning of the next in the country, the birth rate will grow solidly)))

          The increase in abortions is possible. The birth rate is not falling steadily, and the death rate has been growing for several years. incomes of citizens are also steadily falling .. What are your assumptions based on?
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 12 August 2020 10: 04
            -5
            Quote: Svarog
            The increase in abortions is possible.

            Those who were brought up like that first of all think about ...
            Quote: Svarog
            citizens' incomes are also steadily falling.

            I see no connection between income growth and fertility. On the contrary, ordinary people with ordinary incomes (never large), as a rule, have children, but those whose incomes allow them to drive not cheap cars and visit resorts every year - they usually have more than one child and are in no hurry. And that's not always the case.
            Quote: Svarog
            What is your assumption based on?

            On the number of people expecting the birth of a child at different dates)) And this, as a rule, is not the first child in the family.
            1. For example
              For example 12 August 2020 10: 45
              +4
              The population is shrinking because they are afraid to give birth.
              Everyone understands this.
              But the reasons here are not at all nineties or some other.

              The reason is that everyone is counting money now.
              Everything is transferred to the loot.
              And those who pray for the communists, and even more so the supporters of capital.

              The cuckoo moved out from both of them.

              Instead of thinking about this problem and solving this difficult task, today's rulers decided to buy themselves a population.
              Like, pay for every newborn. And the price was set.
              Only for some reason they give more for the first and three times less.
              Tariffs have been created.
              Loot, loot, loot.

              Gentlemen of the Kremlin, and who will sit with children for example?
              After all, grandparents should work under your new laws.

              and at the new retirement age it is already time to take care of grandparents.

              In the meantime, we are dying out.
            2. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 12 August 2020 10: 55
              10
              Quote: Lesovik
              I see no connection between income growth and fertility.

              Laponka. The uncontrolled birth of children, without taking into account the possibility of feeding them, dressing them, putting on shoes, learning, is generally not a good sign. This is usually typical for the finally drunken / chipped marginals.
              Quote: Lesovik
              but those whose incomes allow them to drive not cheap cars and visit resorts annually - so they usually have more than one child and are in no hurry. And that's not always the case.

              False. Impudent and cynical. Open the list of Forbes, Russian, and count children. About 1,5-2 times more per family will come out than the average in Russia. For they are 200% confident in their future.
              1. Woodman
                Woodman 12 August 2020 12: 09
                -4
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                Laponka.

                Little honey ... well ... Baby, if at the birth of children were taken into account "the possibility of feeding them, dressing, shoeing, learning," humanity would have died out at the stage of monkeys.
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                False. Impudent and cynical. Open the forbes list,

                How many names are there in the Forbes list? ten? one hundred? Do you propose to make statistics on this sample? This, baby, is not a statistic, but
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                False. Impudent and cynical.
              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 12 August 2020 12: 47
                +7
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                For they are 200% confident in their future.

                good
                This, and only this, is the main reason for family well-being, when the ship of love does not crash into everyday life. You can also recall the statistics of marriage and divorce:

                Sketches in the margins.
                Today I walked past a former kindergarten, which in the 90s, due to the lack of children, was bought out and converted into paid dentistry + some structures ...
                There is a kindergarten opposite the house where my mother lives. My brother used to go to it. The number of children in the groups has noticeably increased, which can indicate both the desire of Kemerovo residents to have offspring, and the lack of places in preschool institutions ...
                It is impossible to trust statistics, even such as Rosstat. Too often, this entity is content with polling 1 respondents, who are only 500 times larger than the number of Russian oligarchy according to the Forbes list: https: //yandex.ru/turbo/s/forbes.ru/rating/7-5-bogateyshih -biznesmenov-rossii-397799-reyting-forbes
                As for yours:
                Quote: Lesovik
                How many names are there in the Forbes list? ten? one hundred? Do you propose to make statistics on this sample? This, baby, is not a statistic, but

                I can offer a classic version:
            3. Ryaruav
              Ryaruav 12 August 2020 17: 54
              -2
              according to you, it turns out that people have worked so hard that there is no time for love, I will not believe in it
          2. The Word of the Word
            The Word of the Word 12 August 2020 14: 20
            -4
            Could you give data on mortality by year or just talk?
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner 12 August 2020 18: 43
          +2
          laughing Another would be to periodically disconnect electricity and the Internet.
      2. lucul
        lucul 12 August 2020 10: 04
        0
        Not everyone will survive .. the population is actively declining
        https://www.rbc.ru/economics/24/01/2020/5e2ac0d29a794776cb833825

        The demographic pit of the 90s, isn't it?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 August 2020 10: 09
          +6
          Quote: lucul
          Not everyone will survive .. the population is actively declining
          https://www.rbc.ru/economics/24/01/2020/5e2ac0d29a794776cb833825

          The demographic pit of the 90s, isn't it?

          No, this is a consequence of the Second World War, as well as echoes of Peter's violence against the boyars ... he shaved off his beards ..
          1. lucul
            lucul 12 August 2020 10: 12
            0
            No, this is a consequence of the Second World War, as well as echoes of Peter's violence against the boyars ... he shaved off his beards ..

            I see, for some, the concept of the demographic pit of the 90s is too difficult to understand ...
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 12 August 2020 10: 15
              0
              Quote: lucul
              No, this is a consequence of the Second World War, as well as echoes of Peter's violence against the boyars ... he shaved off his beards ..

              I see, for some, the concept of the demographic pit of the 90s is too difficult to understand ...

              What would you begin to understand, look at the graph .. Do you think that after the Second World War there should have been a demographic hole?
              1. RUnnm
                RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 16
                +2
                What period do you consider the baseline?
                The fact that there is always an increase in the birth rate after the war is nothing new. But let's compare the birth rate not by 100 thousand, but by the total.
                And at least you would have looked at your table first - as data on the birth rate, give data on the proportion of RUSSIANS to the rest of the population.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 12 August 2020 10: 21
                  0
                  Quote: RUnnm
                  And at least you would have looked at your table first - as data on the birth rate, give data on the proportion of RUSSIANS to the rest of the population.

                  I also looked .. and you look at what population is now shrinking, namely the Russians.
                  1. RUnnm
                    RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 29
                    +3
                    Well, give for comparison the data on the Mansi, Tuvans, Yakuts .... Since you are interested in an objective comparison, or do you have a different goal?
              2. lucul
                lucul 12 August 2020 10: 18
                -1
                What would you begin to understand, look at the graph .. Do you think that after the Second World War there should have been a demographic hole?

                You bring the official schedules of the Russian statistics, and not made on the knee, it is not clear where and it is not clear by whom ...
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 12 August 2020 10: 22
                  +3
                  Quote: lucul

                  You bring the official schedules of the Russian statistics, and not made on the knee, it is not clear where and it is not clear by whom ...

                  And you do not bring anything at all, except for a hackneyed manual and penalties for the 90s ..
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 12 August 2020 10: 28
                    -8
                    except for the hackneyed training manual and penalties for the 90s ..

                    An overdue training manual is for you, pseudo-communists, and if you are a real communist, then answer a simple question - why did Marx, in his fundamental work Capital, completely bypassed the loan interest? After all, without the concept of loan interest, capitalism is impossible in principle, it is the basis, the foundation, the basis of the foundations of capitalism. But Marx bypassed him, and everyone "turned a blind eye" to this, how so?
                    1. RUnnm
                      RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 32
                      0
                      For the sake of truth, - did not go around. There's a whole chapter on banks. If my memory serves me, then he called the work of bankers twice parasitic, precisely because of the presence of loan interest, which does not create surplus value and takes this value away from producers
                      1. lucul
                        lucul 12 August 2020 10: 40
                        -11 qualifying.
                        For the sake of truth, - did not go around. There's a whole chapter on banks. If my memory serves me, then he called the work of bankers twice parasitic, precisely because of the presence of loan interest, which does not create surplus value and takes this value away from producers

                        Marx wrote his Capital by order of the usurers, and for the collapse of Empires, with which he successfully coped.
                        Marx completely ignores the concept of fiat money and its role in the crises of capitalism. But it is fiat money (not backed by anything) that creates the crises of capitalism, and wars / revolutions were created to resolve them (inflation and zero debt).
                        The very possibility of fiat money distinguishes Capitalism from Feudalism.
                      2. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 49
                        +1
                        As far as I understand, the claims for bank interest have been withdrawn. OK.
                        As for "capital" and fiat money (not backed by assets), you are absolutely not correctly interpreting the provisions of Marx's work. Considering the function of money, namely, as a measure of value, he concludes that the fair value is equal to the value of the labor invested, and therefore, he initially considers all gold-currency, gold-division, and other standards NOT fair. So, let's better leave alone the interpretation of political economy.
                      3. lucul
                        lucul 12 August 2020 10: 56
                        -7
                        As far as I understand, the claims for bank interest have been withdrawn.

                        Why not? ))))
                        What is the basis of the money received on interest on a loan?
                        Considering the function of money, namely, as a measure of value, he concludes that the fair value is equal to the cost of labor invested, and therefore, he initially considers all gold-currency, gold-division, etc. standards NOT fair

                        Marx bypassed all this - and this is the basis of the foundations, instead he got into the means of production ...
                      4. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 12 August 2020 11: 00
                        +3
                        1. At the heart of any "money received" is one thing - the desire for profit. The form of its extraction - the withdrawal of the added value at the plant, in the form of rent, interest, etc. - is not important. For these are just different forms of the same phenomenon.
                        2. And here "bypassed" if he deduces a different postulate !!!! That is, if you prove any theorem, creating your own version of its solution, then the fact that you do not comment on the solution with other options in your solution means that you have bypassed the question? Why, all of a sudden?
                      5. lucul
                        lucul 12 August 2020 11: 24
                        -9
                        ... At the heart of any "money received" is one thing - the desire for profit

                        The answer is absolutely not correct. In addition to "money" economies, there were also "moneyless" economies. The Egyptians, for example, built pyramids with a moneyless economy. And even under feudalism, money was not of paramount importance.
                        And then "bypassed" if he deduces a different postulate !!!!

                        He just walked around - because he began to put the cart in front of the horse. He began to consider himself - to whom the means of production should belong. And it doesn't matter to whom - the amount does not change from the permutation of the data. As long as there is lending interest, there will be inequality. Those who control the lending will always win. And if you manage the loan interest, then you are no longer a proletarian - the circle is closed.
                        It's like it's impossible to defeat a dragon yourself without becoming a dragon ...
                      6. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 12 August 2020 11: 32
                        -2
                        Wow, it turns out it was an exam for me!))) Thank you, have some fun)))) Examiner, can you tell me where you saw the word "money" in my answer, besides your quote?)))
                        By the way, remember where you started your claims - with the theory of bank interest, and now, proving your rightness, we have reached the time of natural exchange based on consumer value. And now, attention, the question is - in the conditions you indicated, there was usury and what was the goal it pursued, if there was no formula D -...- the money went out?)))) And have you refuted yourself in your reasoning? ))
                      7. lucul
                        lucul 12 August 2020 13: 29
                        -6
                        Examiner, can you tell me where you saw the word "money" in my answer, besides your quote?)))

                        Laughter - we look
                        At the heart of any "money received" is one thing - the desire for profit

                        If we remove my phrase "received money" then we get
                        Any ..... is based on one thing - the desire for profit

                        What then is the point of fasting? )))
                        By the way, remember where you started your claims - with the theory of bank interest, and now, proving your case, we have reached the time of natural exchange based on consumer value

                        I showed the possibility of the existence of mankind, both without interest on loans, and without money in general)))
                        And now, attention, the question - in the conditions you specified, there was usury and what purpose it pursued,

                        The answer is simple - there was no usury, in our modern understanding))))
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 15
    +1
    It's just that he has nothing to argue, so he began to grimace
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 12 August 2020 10: 24
    +3
    then the millions of foreigners who received Russian citizenship in 20 years must be taken into account, only in the last 4 years, more than a million new citizens ...
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 12 August 2020 10: 39
    +4
    Quote: lucul
    I see, for some, the concept of the demographic pit of the 90s is too difficult to understand ..

    It is definitely difficult for you. Have you tried to study the tsiferki themselves, and not repeat the voiced from the zombie box? We open statistics. Rosstatat website. Distribution by age group. year 2014. The age group 25-35 years old (that is, those who give birth mainly) - 24.1 million people. Looking at 2020 - 22,1 million people. Those. that same mega-terrible demographic mega-yama - less than 10%. Now let's look at the birth rate for the same years. 2014 - 1.94 million, 2020 - 0,68 million for six months, or around 1.36 million per year. Fall by 45%. 2014 - 1 child per year for 12.4 people, aged 25 to 35, 2020 - 1 child for 16.2 people of the same age.
    In general, the birth rate, taking into account age groups, is now approximately at the level of 1995-96. Not the bottom, of course. The very bottom is 1999. But taking into account the dynamics .... Years in 2, maximum 3 we will break through this very bottom. In general, the fact that the level of optimism corresponds to about the mid-90s ... And the birth rate just depends most of all on what people expect ahead, a bright future, or the final ass ... More than clearly indicates that that people no longer expect anything good, and categorically refuses to multiply.
    1. lucul
      lucul 12 August 2020 10: 49
      -6
      More than clearly indicates that the people no longer expect anything good, and categorically refuses to multiply.

      You are like small children - if, for example, in India a woman spreads her legs in front of a man in order to create offspring, then in Russia a woman spreads her legs in order to get some "nishtyaks", and they think about offspring last. There is a difference ?
      But the reason is in the implanted consumer society, where the whole world revolves around a woman - "after all, you deserve it", "let the whole world wait" says the advertisement. The last degree of egoism is cultivated - to live the maximum for oneself, and what remains - from 40 years old and above - can be spent on children. This is how a whole generation (25 years old) is deleted from life.
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 12 August 2020 11: 00
        +6
        Quote: lucul
        then in Russia a woman spreads her legs in order to get some "nishtyaks"

        Laponka. Not only are you a liar, you are also the first-rate Hamley. And besides, he is an inveterate Russophobe. But in general ... If, except for nishtyaki, women do not allow you to come to them ... Look for problems in yourself, and not in others.
        Dixi.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 15
    0
    And what, when they presented you with a real counter-argument, instead of answering, they decided to pose as a clown?
  • Civil
    Civil 12 August 2020 10: 30
    +4
    We tighten the belts, the ring of enemies around the country is narrowing. The Japanese, Finns, Ukrainians, Georgians, NATO put pressure on the young capitalist feudalism. Let us protect our oil and gas from the encroachments of foreign oligarchs and appanage princes. laughing
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 12 August 2020 12: 00
      +2
      Quote: Civil
      We tighten the belts, the ring of enemies around the country is narrowing. The Japanese, Finns, Ukrainians, Georgians, NATO put pressure on the young capitalist feudalism. Let us protect our oil and gas from the encroachments of foreign oligarchs and appanage princes. laughing

      Themselves enthusiastically equipped themselves with wild capitalism.
      Drooling from the taste of Western sweets.
      Got...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 13 August 2020 15: 07
      +1
      Alas, this is no longer our oil and gas. It's been 30 years since ..
  • halpat
    halpat 12 August 2020 10: 38
    +6
    One should, of course, ask the main Russian "diver", who was the minister of this useless institution, he would tell where the "bottom" is, shaking his well-fed cheeks. But he has other tasks now - to take into account and give out books in the library of the correctional institution.
    and his successor (Oreshkin) also prefers not to shine, quietly conducting subversive work.
  • iouris
    iouris 12 August 2020 12: 12
    +1
    Quote: ASAD
    and certainly not the last!

    Nobody knows this, especially Rosstat.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 13 August 2020 15: 03
    0
    Not the first crisis, and certainly not the last!

    This is yes, but in general - it somehow lifted these crises to experience. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, they have been solid, at least once every five years. Only from the past you wake up - as already new in the yard. Maybe our own government will finally stop this practice and start doing business instead of robbing its own people?
  • Poetry
    Poetry 12 August 2020 09: 33
    +3
    It would be strange to read that the economy is on the rise. It hit everyone. For some people it is even stronger than for us.
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 12 August 2020 09: 45
      -1
      The larger the economy, the greater the losses during the global crisis.
      1. Sergey Obraztsov
        Sergey Obraztsov 12 August 2020 09: 49
        10
        It is not the size of the economy that matters, but its structure. People will not stop eating, drinking, making repairs and buying equipment, but the service sector has buried itself. Accordingly, the share of services in our economy is less than in the same America, hence the lower drop in GDP.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 12 August 2020 09: 36
    +6
    I survived 1991, 93, 94, 96, 98, 2008, 2014 - why are they scaring me? Under capitalism, every day is a small crisis and a struggle for survival. And to be honest - this is already fiercely stunned .. I would like to again at a time when the price of a product was set right on it even during manufacture .. Bring back the USSR, creatures .. Otherwise, we will return it ourselves ..
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 August 2020 09: 43
      +1
      Quote: paul3390
      Under capitalism, every day is a small crisis and a struggle for survival. And to be honest, this is already fiercely frozen.

      The Strugatskys' story "Predatory Things of the Century" has an excellent phrase:
      "The only freedom that most people need is freedom from decision making."
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 12 August 2020 09: 49
      +6
      Quote: paul3390
      I survived 1991, 93, 94, 96, 98, 2008, 2014 - why are they scaring me?

      They do not scare, they warn in advance that it will only get worse because of the pandemic .. Prepare society for "there is no money, but you hold on there" ..
      It causes no special understanding that they do not even think to share with citizens, but what is actually being done to boost the economy, what is the plan? Apparently he doesn't even exist ..
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 12 August 2020 10: 04
        +6
        Yes, the plan is simple - to get on us what they didn’t receive because of the fall in oil and gas prices .. Correct Guys - cannot lose money, the rule is this .. And the state.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 August 2020 13: 21
      +1
      You yourself will not return anything, since the goods are produced and created by private traders, and private traders also sell - they set the prices they deem necessary.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 12 August 2020 14: 03
        0
        Soviet power will return. Which we will sooner or later - but we will restore. Even if someone really doesn't like it. For capitalism has already clearly proved that it will ruin us all ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 August 2020 17: 58
          0
          Soviet power will return. It has not been there for a long time and there will be no new one - the future of Russia and the whole world is a digital economy with control through AI using the Blockchain system at all levels.
  • alone
    alone 12 August 2020 09: 36
    +3
    The article is incomplete ... it was possible to more extensively detail the state of all sectors of the economy, show the level of increase and decrease.
    And it feels like the Russian economy is one transport of passengers and agriculture
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 12 August 2020 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: lonely
      The article is incomplete ..

      Please do not confuse an article and a regular news item with a reference to official statistics. In the article, you yourself can detail everything up to indicating the remaining risks.
    2. lucul
      lucul 12 August 2020 10: 10
      -2
      The article is incomplete ... it was possible to more extensively detail the state of all sectors of the economy, show the level of increase and decrease.

      Let me explain - the fall in electricity consumption, in the first half of 2020, 5% compared to last year, i.e. only 95% of electricity was consumed compared to the last half of the year.
      Compared to Germany, there is a 23% drop in electricity consumption.
      And so, in Russia, it was mainly the service sector and transport that suffered. And if the service sector in Russia has a small percentage, then in America, the service sector is at least 50%)))
    3. loki565
      loki565 12 August 2020 11: 45
      0
      And it feels like the Russian economy is one transport of passengers and agriculture

      This affected mainly small businesses such as restaurants, hair salons, tourism, etc. Agriculture was practically unaffected
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 August 2020 09: 46
    0
    Are we living better / worse?
    Are we going to live better / worse?
    So what about the "refrigerator" ???
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 12 August 2020 09: 59
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      So what about the "refrigerator" ???

      The refrigerator is starting to win .. Four years ago, I needed 500 rubles to go to the store, now 1000 rubles .. I spend on a family of 4 people a day for food .. And the income is the same ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 August 2020 10: 05
        +8
        Quote: Svarog
        The refrigerator starts to win ..

        He starts to DISRUPT ... although, as we were told, you can turn off the refrigerator and go to the whip-packets ... to macaroons! I love them, but I want to live longer and normally.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 12 August 2020 09: 56
    +2
    Well, it never happened, and then again. negative
  • maiman61
    maiman61 12 August 2020 09: 56
    +1
    There are lies, wild lies, and statistics!
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 12 August 2020 10: 06
    0
    Now every year it is necessary to declare self-isolation in order to write off the mediocrity of the government for a pandemic. Well, they will last a year or two, and then what will they blame?
  • Revival
    Revival 12 August 2020 10: 12
    0
    I think that, nevertheless, the main factor "influencing its pace" will not be the "epidemiological situation in the country" itself, but rather the measures taken by all sorts of measures.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 12 August 2020 10: 26
    +3
    I like some local commentators: the real GDP of the US is falling by about 32%, the UK -20 +%, Germany -10% and so on. In Russia, instead of the expected 9.5%, the drop is 8.5%, but isn't this a reason for hysteria? Half of the "commentators" started shouting - "we are all going to die!" Yes, open your eyes! We have had crises that are much worse, deeper. You already got to bury us. Do not wait, only after you!
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 12 August 2020 11: 01
      0
      US GDP falls by about 32%, UK -20 +%, Germany -10%


      And I just thought it. Your Rosstat is on fire ... laughing
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 12 August 2020 11: 04
        0
        Your Rosstat submits ALL data to the same IMF, which checks for compliance with the approved methods. Therefore, stop talking nonsense. Rosstat records only the fact. I would also understand your claims to the forecasts, but regarding statistics, sorry, but you are talking nonsense
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 12 August 2020 11: 58
          +2
          but regarding statistics, sorry, but you're talking nonsense


          Do not be offended, since the statistics are correct, then congratulations - you are doing better than most countries. Our data for the second three months have not yet come out, but the decline will be greater than the forecast of 7.1%.
          1. RUnnm
            RUnnm 12 August 2020 12: 10
            0
            Do you mind if I tell you, such a prominent specialist, what "three months" in economic sciences is called a quarter?
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 12 August 2020 12: 53
              +5
              Do you mind if I tell you, such a prominent specialist, what "three months" in economic sciences is called a quarter?


              Yes, I don’t mind, I’ll even say thank you for the science - I just forgot the word. In my language, a quarter is a residential area.

              By the way, how did you know that I was a prominent economist? Is that how genius is spilled out in every word?

              Come on ... just kidding ... have a nice day. I am going to work and raise the GDP of the Motherland ...
      2. cniza
        cniza 12 August 2020 11: 54
        +2
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        US GDP falls by about 32%, UK -20 +%, Germany -10%


        And I just thought it. Your Rosstat is on fire ... laughing



        And how is it possible to justify or just because others are worse?
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 12 August 2020 12: 02
          +2
          how is it possible to justify or just because others are worse?


          No, it's impossible for me - the first is a long time, the second I am not an expert on the US economy. I just expressed unreasonable doubts in Rosstat :) But in a year you would better say how your crisis went. According to my feelings (the data has not yet been released), this crisis will affect us very, very badly, but we'll see ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 12 August 2020 12: 12
            +4
            Yes, we ourselves doubt Rosstat, but looking at the surrounding reality, you understand that not everything is so bad, we will survive ...
    2. Titus_2
      Titus_2 12 August 2020 13: 43
      -1
      Sir, I think you have unconditional trust in Rosstat, I can tell you that in fact everything is a little different than they draw there, I cannot write some things here, but believe me that I personally drank with the head of the department and it was in the department ... Interestingly, write a personal and I can at least send a photo of this department. My message is that Rosstat should be trusted all the more since it has been under the wing of the Ministry of Economic Development since the beginning of summer, and even before my brother told me that they went and filmed specifically for the GDP, allegedly how farming develops in the Yegoryevsky district. What surprised me most of all was that orders came from somewhere in order to give out a picture to the darkest. Yes, and this organization itself, how is it they master the money and are not shy.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 12 August 2020 10: 29
    +4
    This is evidenced by the data of Rosstat.

    They do not testify to anything! Rosstat has long become a political institution, it remains only to find out what specific goals the authorities are pursuing at the moment by publishing these data.
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 August 2020 11: 52
      +1
      And it could be a good assistant and tool for management and regulation ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 August 2020 13: 29
      +2
      What goals are pursued - purely economic to show that the Russian economy is more solid and resistant to similar crises than other countries, so to speak, to advertise for foreign investors.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 12 August 2020 14: 55
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        advertise for foreign investors.

        And here's the reason
  • faterdom
    faterdom 12 August 2020 11: 42
    +3
    Do you know that...
    If Rosstat is merged with Rosgvardia, and general ranks and proper subordination are introduced there, then the PRC will lag behind us in economic development by 7 percent in the very first year, and then the gap will only grow.
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 August 2020 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: faterdom
      Do you know that...
      if Rosstat is merged with Rosgvardia, and general ranks and proper subordination are introduced there ...


      And who needs it, and most importantly why?
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 12 August 2020 12: 05
        0
        How is it to whom ??? You are apolitical! The electorate is not only thirsty for constitutional amendments, but ... and economic success.
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 August 2020 12: 13
          +1
          The electorate is not stupid and many have read fairy tales in childhood, when you say halva, your mouth does not feel sweet ...
  • cniza
    cniza 12 August 2020 11: 50
    +1
    According to the government's June forecasts, the overall drop in GDP by the end of the year could be about 5 percent.


    Very optimistic ...
  • Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 12 August 2020 12: 43
    +2
    The largest drop was shown by the transport industry due to a decrease in passenger turnover by about 79 percent.

    And also because I don't pay for travel ... but I use transport regularly
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 August 2020 13: 34
      +1
      Do you eat with a hook on trains?
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 12 August 2020 17: 12
        +1
        Ahah, no, I haven't tried this, although it would be interesting. As the turnstiles were removed in buses and trolleybuses, there was no need to pay, well, except in rare cases when the counter came. And with trains everything is strict - only by ticket.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 August 2020 13: 21
    +3
    Loss of development rates due to coronavirus is a completely natural development of events. There is no need to be ashamed of this. All countries in the world have the same story. RF is in quite a decent company. hi