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Three MiG-31s ​​at once climbed to intercept the US Global Hawk drone: the reason for using the three interceptors is being discussed

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Russian fighter-interceptors were launched into the skies after the discovery of the American strategic RQ-4 Global Hawk reconnaissance drone near the Russian borders. According to the latest reports, a US Air Force drone appeared over the Chukchi Sea.

Three MiG-31 interceptors were sent to intercept it.

According to the National Center for Defense Control (NTSUO) of Russia, the American reconnaissance UAV turned in the opposite direction from the Russian border at the moment when Russian MiGs appeared in front of it. It is also noted that when the Global Hawk departed from the Russian borders a sufficient distance, the MiG-31 aircraft returned to the home airfield.

The NTSUO stressed that the MiG-31 flights were in full compliance with international standards.

From the report:

Violations of the state border of Russia were not allowed.

Previously to intercept other funds aviation USA - the US Air Force strategic bomber B-1B Lancer - also used three Russian fighters. Only these were aircraft of the 4 ++ Su-35 generation. Then the experts wondered what it took to lift three fighters into the air at once. Several versions were proposed: from the demonstration of the power of the Russian Aerospace Forces or the military aviation of the Russian Navy to the need to use the three "Sushki" in order to be able to neutralize all B-1B Lancer JASSM-ER missiles. Both versions look somewhat strange, if only because it would be strange for Su-35 pilots in general to wait for the American "strategist" to release all of its missiles.

Now the discussion of the interception of American air assets by three Russian fighters has shown itself again. Indeed, three fighters were also sent at once to intercept the RQ-4 Global Hawk of the US Air Force over the Chukchi Sea. Moreover, in this case, the American aviation facility did not carry any missile and bomb weapons on board. This means that the version about the use of triplets of fighters with the expectation of neutralizing American missiles, as in the case of the B-1B, looks untenable.
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  1. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 11 August 2020 18: 02 New
    -17 qualifying.
    After that, we are waiting for news that UAV operators are massively writing letters of resignation.
    1. Gray-haired Zinnik
      Gray-haired Zinnik 11 August 2020 18: 06 New
      -14 qualifying.
      Complain about unsafe maneuvers. Say, diapers ruined sitting in a chair
      1. Roman1970_1
        Roman1970_1 11 August 2020 19: 40 New
        +6
        Sitting thousands of miles away, they got very scared
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 11 August 2020 21: 24 New
          +8
          Quote: Roman1970_1
          Sitting thousands of miles away, they got very scared

          I think the operator was not scared at all. But the operator is well aware that in the event of the loss of the RQ-4 Global Hawk, it will be pulled over a globe in the Pentagon, in the truest sense of the word!
          1. hrych
            hrych 12 August 2020 01: 31 New
            +1
            Send to wash the toilets on the radar in Alaska.
            1. krot
              krot 12 August 2020 06: 43 New
              +5
              Most likely pilots are practicing new tactics, learning something. The three of us make it easier.
              1. Aleksandr123
                Aleksandr123 14 August 2020 20: 06 New
                0
                Also I think. And it is very useful to look at the objects on which you will have to work live. Three pilots gain the necessary experience at once.
          2. Elephant
            Elephant 12 August 2020 11: 26 New
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            The operator is well aware that in the event of the loss of the RQ-4 Global Hawk, it will be pulled over a globe in the Pentagon, in the truest sense of the word!

            This flight was authorized by the Pentagon and all the risks were calculated in advance. The operator's fault can only be in the case of his unprofessionalism, malicious intent, miscalculation or error in operating the apparatus.
      2. Crabong
        Crabong 12 August 2020 00: 33 New
        +1
        Yes, tie up already flogging this nonsense about diapers. I should have seen how you got along in battle with the amers ... The rag eagle ...
        1. Andrey.AN
          Andrey.AN 12 August 2020 01: 28 New
          +5
          With the MiG-31, the Americans cannot enter into battle, the speeds and heights are not the same, and the Mig has long-range missiles, and the radar is steeper. True, he cannot guard anyone slow and low-flying, fight at low speeds, in the main combat missions to protect bomb carriers or their mass destruction, but as a hunter he is unsurpassed.
          1. Souchastnik
            Souchastnik 12 August 2020 08: 59 New
            +8
            True, he cannot guard anyone slow and low-flying

            The MiG-31 is not intended to guard someone, flying slowly or fast, high or low. Interceptors have the task of covering objects or zones. That is, reach the target, intercept from an acceptable distance and return to base. Aerobatics and close combat are not his task.
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 11 August 2020 18: 09 New
      16
      Back in the 80s, by the way, the Western Military District described proposals to return the troika instead of pairs to the battle formation of the IA. Several articles were ....
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 11 August 2020 18: 27 New
        +3
        In the Patriotic War, they switched from triples to pairs as a more effective option. Is everything new well forgotten old?
        1. NKT
          NKT 11 August 2020 19: 40 New
          +4
          They switched only at the end of 1942, although in Spain the Luftwaffe showed that the tactical unit of fighters - a pair, has advantages over the three.
        2. Gato
          Gato 12 August 2020 00: 18 New
          +7
          The MiG-31 is not a maneuverable combat fighter - it is, as it were, a heavy interceptor, an integral part of the complex, the tactics of which implied "wide nonsense" for hundreds of kilometers from several vehicles at the maximum possible distance from each other. Probably looking for someone else.
    3. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 11 August 2020 18: 35 New
      16
      I understood why the three of us! Take pictures for memory! Two are posing, the third is photographing or filming!


      1. tol100v
        tol100v 11 August 2020 20: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Grazdanin
        I understood why the three of us!

        Outside the use of tactics of air or (other) combat One can recall V.S. Vysotsky: "It was not invented for nothing for three!" and in continuation: "I hit first then, so it was NECESSARY!" There is nothing to add to this!
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 11 August 2020 21: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Grazdanin
        I understood why the three of us! Take pictures for memory!

        He slightly opened the flashlight on the MiG-31, stuck out a selfie stick with a smartphone at the end, and photographed himself against the background of someone else's plane. Business ...
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 12 August 2020 11: 36 New
          +4
          Most likely, the data that the UAV is going to our border came from radio interception services. They raised the 3yku 31x so that they would find it along the front, blocking a section of a decent width. Those. worked out a standard search for an air target.
    4. Zloyxirurg
      Zloyxirurg 12 August 2020 07: 15 New
      -2
      You smell of rot
  2. K-612-O
    K-612-O 11 August 2020 18: 03 New
    20
    And the version of working out the interaction of the link of fighters does not enter the head. And one more thing: well, I wanted the regiment so that it also has the right to life
    1. Avior
      Avior 11 August 2020 19: 19 New
      +3
      How many fighters do you think there are?
    2. Runoway
      Runoway 11 August 2020 20: 31 New
      +3
      The other day we were raising 3 SU-35s for interception, something our guys are working on.
      Control would be intercepted and planted accidentally on our airfield, let them look for the loss in neutral waters
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 11 August 2020 23: 02 New
        +1
        Control would be intercepted and planted accidentally on our airfield

        in serious drones, control cannot be intercepted, there is real-time encryption, you can only drown out the channel by means of the radio, but then it will either continue the flight according to the program or return to the base
        1. Outsider
          Outsider 11 August 2020 23: 59 New
          -1
          - There is a satellite dish, and you can't suppress the control channel with signals from the ground, and the Global Hawk flies at altitudes of 15-16 km ...
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 12 August 2020 08: 34 New
            0
            by means of electronic devices installed on the interceptor
    3. Login_Off
      Login_Off 12 August 2020 01: 17 New
      0
      This is not a training flight.
      Here, rather, the use of electronic warfare by the states.
      It shows a group of planes on the radar, but in fact one drone is flying.
      So imagine if there are many indications of multiple targets on the radars. Where to send planes to intercept? Send three Su-35s to intercept, and there will be one old one, and several new ones will break through.
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 12 August 2020 11: 37 New
        0
        This version deserves attention. We also need to make more active use of this tactical technique.
  3. andr327
    andr327 11 August 2020 18: 08 New
    19
    Practicing interaction, running young pilots, and flying hours are needed (almost combat hours).
  4. mark2
    mark2 11 August 2020 18: 09 New
    -28 qualifying.
    It seems to me that drones could be shot down. Training for the flight crew and the Americans is not averse to what was. You just don't need to shoot down planes yet. And drones are quite possible. Once we have withdrawn from the contracts, then there is nothing to go anywhere.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 11 August 2020 18: 30 New
      16
      And on what basis to shoot them down? The border is not violated, identification marks are in place.
    2. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 11 August 2020 18: 45 New
      +2
      When it seems, be baptized. Otherwise it will seem that you need to throw a bomb somewhere.
      1. mark2
        mark2 11 August 2020 21: 21 New
        -12 qualifying.
        Your feedback is very important to us. Hold on.
    3. Rzzz
      Rzzz 11 August 2020 18: 52 New
      17
      Quote: mark2
      I think,

      When it seems - it is necessary to be baptized.
      Quote: mark2
      that drones could be shot down

      This is the same plane as everyone else. The fact that it is controlled by a robot does not change anything. There is complete equality on the high seas. Over the territorial sea - the right of innocent passage.

      This is one of the few principles that are strictly observed even now. If this principle begins to be violated by those to whom something "seems" there, complete anarchy will come in this world
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 11 August 2020 20: 52 New
        -4
        Quote: rzzz
        If this principle begins to be violated by those to whom something "seems" there, complete anarchy will come in this world

        This "principle" began to be violated long ago by the most "exceptional", until they were put in the back seat! And I am very glad that recently they are being played by all "Rear and Rear!"
    4. AUL
      AUL 11 August 2020 20: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: mark2
      It seems to me that drones could be shot down.

      Hats ... laughing Man thinks strategically!
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 August 2020 18: 11 New
    -6
    And nothing vigorous can be shoved into this Global. If they switch to triplets, this is a signal from the United States. Global at what altitude does it fly?
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 11 August 2020 18: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And nothing vigorous can be shoved into this Global.

      No, the MiG-31 does not have explosives with nuclear warheads. And so it would be shoved!
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 11 August 2020 18: 31 New
      10
      Not normally, easy if desired. There's 1,5t payload in the latest version. He can drag 2 V-61s at once in a modification of 12, 50 kt each.
      1. 5-9
        5-9 12 August 2020 09: 33 New
        +3
        Do you think that the possibility of using a B-61 or other vigorous bean depends on the ability to attach it to an aircraft and lift it ????? Or put it in a transport operator and roll it out of the ramp on a trolley?
        To use vigorous-bonba, you need special on-board equipment.
    3. Rzzz
      Rzzz 11 August 2020 19: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Global flies at what altitude?

      Flies high, infection. In his design specification, he had it so that in statics he could fly higher than all Russian fighters. It can hold about 22 km for a long time, only the MiG-31 confidently climbs to this height, and the MiG-29 is in dynamics (with acceleration).
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 11 August 2020 19: 39 New
        0
        That is why the MiG 31 was used three for reliability.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 11 August 2020 21: 02 New
          -2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          That is why the MiG 31 was used three for reliability.

          Nonsense! First, ask what this ship is like! How many goals are at the same time and how many are in the "STAE!" Simultaneously or by choice! And even what front is defending! So learn performance characteristics and don't ask stupid questions! Yours faithfully!
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 11 August 2020 21: 07 New
            +5
            As far as I remember, one 400 km along the front. And why three, my guess is that the Amarican operator has triplets in his eyes! repeat Yours! hi
  6. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 11 August 2020 18: 13 New
    -11 qualifying.
    The Iranians intercepted and planted the Global Hawk a couple of times, we, too, would not be damaged by such a trophy, well, at the same time, the Americans would be humiliated.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 11 August 2020 18: 32 New
      +5
      They took them over their territory. It is their right to imprison violators.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 11 August 2020 19: 04 New
      +7
      They did not plant him. Shot down once. Impossible to plant.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 11 August 2020 19: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: rzzz
        Shot down once. Impossible to plant.

        Shhh ... now the ministers of the EW cult will run stop
  7. Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 August 2020 18: 31 New
    +1
    laughing hi And I think I'll repeat my comment repeat

    Observer2014

    7 August 2020 22: 04
    +5
    Experts discuss why three Su-1 fighters went up to intercept the B-35B Lancer of the USAF
    And what are the global standards for intercepting strategic bombers of potential partners near their borders? laughing I wanted to ... How do we know all the details. Maybe he was B-1B On the "tail" that was supposed to be in the air? How do we know all the details.

    Well version with training No. As it is not very. To train, you can generally just train. Maybe we don't know what the Air Force Commander-in-Chief knows?repeat And yet they catch something? Although God knows. Maybe a new teaching methodology has been invented. Or maybe a high-quality film is being shot. Aircraft for interception are different, so the leader and follower, plus a journalist or operator, go to the goal. bully
  8. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 11 August 2020 18: 37 New
    +8
    Yes, everything is simple - there is a "training" of replenishment units of the Aerospace Forces against the counteraction of the Air Force "partners". wink
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 11 August 2020 19: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Vlad5307
      there is a "training" of replenishment

      Very similar ... A 31 Mig is a very powerful machine. If it blows the engines into this dragonfly, it can drive it into a tailspin ... well, it happened ... it wasn’t a rocket launched ... well, the maneuver was unsuccessful! tongue
  9. Yves762
    Yves762 11 August 2020 18: 45 New
    +8
    The Russian tradition, illuminated for centuries, is to think for three! soldier
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 11 August 2020 21: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Yves762
      The Russian tradition, illuminated for centuries, is to think for three! soldier

      Better not to come up with! And from three trunks, but a bunch of hares! Nobody in the world will ever understand this!
    2. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 11 August 2020 23: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Yves762
      A Russian tradition illuminated for centuries

  10. Anika
    Anika 11 August 2020 19: 21 New
    0
    In order for young pilots to undergo a running-in, let's say that everyone would "feel" with their hands how to get into the tail of this robot.
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 12 August 2020 11: 47 New
      0
      An air-to-air missile launched a hundred kilometers away must enter the tail of this robot or other aircraft.
  11. da Vinci
    da Vinci 11 August 2020 19: 26 New
    0
    Is it possible to put on the MIG 31 some non-lethal weapon against drones, such as the REX of the ZALA AERO company, or something similar?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 11 August 2020 21: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: da Vinci
      Is it possible to put on the MIG 31 some non-lethal weapon against drones, such as the REX of the ZALA AERO company, or something similar?

      Question? What for? Someone violates something, but for some reason it is non-lethal? Answer: violated: Get it! And if you don't want to, then think! And this half-country that thinks about "itself" can go to the "GREAT EXCEPTION!" After all, they called themselves "Exceptional"!
  12. synodontis
    synodontis 11 August 2020 19: 30 New
    +1
    I can assume that a gap was discovered in the method of driving the adversary away from the border, which is closed by the third.
  13. zenion
    zenion 11 August 2020 19: 34 New
    -1
    The drone got scared, put it in his pants and his plane began to triple.
  14. A.K.
    A.K. 11 August 2020 19: 40 New
    0
    Article nonsense. I rewrote other people's words and all the reasoning over other people's guesses, and the guesses are just stupidity. Here commentators write more common sense. Generally tired of these empty articles. Who agrees?
  15. Shilka
    Shilka 11 August 2020 19: 52 New
    -4
    Violations of the state border of Russia were not allowed.
    Most likely they were allowed where no one could intercept them .. The MiG-31 was created in the USSR for such emergency situations. .. Now I think the situation was serious, the ammunition capacity of the MiG-31 is not that great ..

    The amersa changed their tactics, they decided to get us all the time .. Well, well!
    No matter how we have to go to Cuba, etc. to carry our airfields and we will be even then! And what do we have the right ... You appear at the border, ours fly up at once in full combat ... Think for yourself, decide for yourself whether or not to be ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 11 August 2020 21: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: Shilka
      .. Think for yourself, decide for yourself whether or not to be

      The Cuban crisis will be gone! SGA are already walking both small and large! Speaking in Russian, this is not a crisis - for them it is from - t-t-cha - well-ty northern "dog"!
      1. Shilka
        Shilka 11 August 2020 21: 54 New
        -3
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Shilka
        .. Think for yourself, decide for yourself whether or not to be

        The Cuban crisis will be gone! SGA are already walking both small and large! Speaking in Russian, this is not a crisis - for them it is from - t-t-cha - well-ty northern "dog"!

        Let's see, it's not worth running into, but the pressure in this regard will constantly increase until the negotiations go to And exactly equal!
        Trump is not casual again throws hints that Russia should be invited to the G-7 .. I would not agree, only a direct summit meeting !!!!
  16. iouris
    iouris 11 August 2020 20: 15 New
    -5
    Quote: "... the version about the use of triplets of fighters with the expectation of neutralizing American missiles, as in the case of the B-1B, looks untenable." End of quote.
    And in the first case, it is untenable. They can finish us off without the use of aircraft. Purely hybrid. How many planes should be raised if the Germans abandon the construction of the SP-2?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 11 August 2020 21: 32 New
      0
      All strategists and rangers?
  17. garri-lin
    garri-lin 11 August 2020 20: 25 New
    +4
    And the third Mig could not carry the tracking equipment? Two regularly accompany the foe and the third from the side looks and listens to what that foe is doing. He detects the communication frequencies, writes the signal. Etc?
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 August 2020 20: 39 New
      0
      Quote: garri-lin
      couldn't carry the tracking equipment?

      could not
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 11 August 2020 20: 45 New
        +2
        Why is it so categorical?
  18. maiman61
    maiman61 11 August 2020 20: 27 New
    -1
    The striped guys are training to stick the earth ball!
  19. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 11 August 2020 21: 34 New
    0
    Is there really no way to take over control of this American drone and land it on our territory? The Iranians, on the other hand, somehow planted a secret American reconnaissance drone a few years ago ...
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 11 August 2020 22: 55 New
      +4
      He's not controllable. He has a program according to which he performs the task. Receives coded signals from the satellite with new tasks. If you cut off the connection, he will simply finish the work and return to the place indicated in the task. The only option is to pretend to be a satellite and replace the information from the satellite. And there the level of encoding is such that it's scary to imagine.
  20. vavilon
    vavilon 11 August 2020 22: 09 New
    0
    Why fly out to intercept,
    If you violated the border, you should land in full and you will stop flying
  21. Old26
    Old26 11 August 2020 22: 23 New
    +6
    Quote: mark2
    It seems to me that drones could be shot down. Training for the flight crew and the Americans is not averse to what was. You just don't need to shoot down planes yet. And drones are quite possible. Once we have withdrawn from the contracts, then there is nothing to go anywhere.

    It never occurred to me that a medal usually has two sides. We will begin to shoot down over neutral waters, they will begin to shoot us down. I wanted to play "nuclear war" ????

    Quote: Sergey Olegovich Abrosimov
    Is there really no way to take over control of this American drone and land it on our territory? The Iranians, on the other hand, somehow planted a secret American reconnaissance drone a few years ago ...

    They shot down one, and the one that landed was not as high-altitude and autonomous as the Global Hawk

    And the area of ​​interception is not entirely clear. The Chukchi Sea is far enough from the home airfield
  22. facktor
    facktor 11 August 2020 22: 30 New
    -1
    I will not reveal the secret - one on top shields communication with the satellite, two on the side block the auto-return maneuver on loss of communication.
  23. Alber alber
    Alber alber 11 August 2020 23: 17 New
    +1
    It can be assumed that the two are working according to the standard, and the third takes a portrait of the flyers for promising means of detection, counteraction and destruction.
  24. Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 12 August 2020 01: 38 New
    0
    Probably got fucked by an American for the simulator.
  25. Nitarius
    Nitarius 12 August 2020 04: 49 New
    0
    At the same time, in this case, the American aviation facility did not carry any missile and bomb weapons on board. --------- author what is it for? what does it mean to do nothing!
  26. Tota
    Tota 12 August 2020 06: 43 New
    -1
    In my opinion, the deletant, it is necessary that one of the pair of aircraft reads the information received by the reconnaissance officer, and the second removes it from the reconnaissance channels. The third is needed to prevent border violations
  27. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 12 August 2020 07: 49 New
    0
    Quote: garri-lin
    He's not controllable. He has a program according to which he performs the task. Receives coded signals from the satellite with new tasks. If you cut off the connection, he will simply finish the work and return to the place indicated in the task. The only option is to pretend to be a satellite and replace the information from the satellite. And there the level of encoding is such that it's scary to imagine.


    Thanks for clarifying hi Only, if you will allow me, one incomprehensibility: how did the Iranians seize control of a top-secret US reconnaissance drone a few years ago and safely land it without visible damage?
    And, accordingly, why can't the drone landing technology used by Iran be applied to us now?
  28. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 12 August 2020 10: 54 New
    0
    I don't understand the title of the article. Anyone who has served in the army understands that it is much better to train on real goals than on educational ones. And the more pilots are tested on real targets now, the more confident they will feel later.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 12 August 2020 13: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: TermNachTER
      And the more pilots are tested on real targets now, the more confident they will feel later.

      It is quite possible that the task of three moments was not to intercept the detected target, but first to find it independently, and only then to intercept, for which, specifically, the MiG-3 was created. In other words, study.
  29. vindigo
    vindigo 12 August 2020 11: 08 New
    +1
    When will our reconnaissance drones start flying along US borders?
  30. Old26
    Old26 12 August 2020 13: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: Tota
    In my opinion, the deletant, it is necessary that one of the pair of aircraft reads the information received by the reconnaissance officer, and the second removes it from the reconnaissance channels. The third is needed to prevent border violations

    Did you read the information received? even if it is encrypted over the satellite channel? How can you delete it "remotely"? Do not come up with it, comrade. As for the event itself, nothing is clear at all about it.
    The southern part of the Chukchi Sea is adjacent to our coast at a distance of about 500-600 km north of Anadyr. MIGs, as far as is known (and you can see from the photo), are based in Kamchatka (Yelizovo). From the base to the meeting point with the Global Hawk, about 2200 km. The combat radius of the MIG-31 subsonic with PTB is about 1400 km. I wonder how they got there, and then even returned to the home base. Something is not said in the note
  31. nemar7106
    nemar7106 12 August 2020 18: 32 New
    0
    Yes, maybe all this is to extend the mines. for flight personnel, at 27 to the air defense they repeatedly raised the maximum of fighters to extend the mines, especially the MiG 29 from the Shauliai Air Force asked ...
  32. 1536
    1536 12 August 2020 19: 16 New
    0
    Why three of us? Because two are pulling the net, and the third is throwing it. But this same Hawk escaped again, failed to catch. But someday they will be caught.
  33. Radikal
    Radikal 13 August 2020 04: 06 New
    0
    Quote: krot
    Most likely pilots are practicing new tactics, learning something. The three of us make it easier.

    Firstly, in six, and secondly - to overtake three MiG-31s ​​- this is actually out of the ordinary, probably. If two South Korean "hooligans" had one Su-15 for each, then in this case three for one drone ...? sad