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An icebreaker will appear in the Baltic

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An icebreaker will appear in the Baltic

The most powerful diesel-electric icebreaker in the world "Viktor Chernomyrdin" will be delivered to the customer no later than November 1, 2020 and will operate in the Baltic. Writes about it "Kommersant" with reference to sources in the USC.


As the newspaper writes, the new date for the delivery of the diesel-electric icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin is November 1, 2020. However, it is noted that the terms are taken "with a margin", the transfer of the icebreaker will take place in September this year. At the same time, it is stated that the icebreaker, built for work on the Northern Sea Route, will be operated in the Baltic Sea, it is possible that it will participate in expeditions.

According to USC sources, the icebreaker will be delivered without ice tests, since they need ice with certain characteristics, which happens in April-May, and it will take too long to wait for the onset of spring. If any shortcomings are subsequently identified, the shipyard will correct them within the framework of the current warranty.

At the end of December last year, it was reported that the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker was technically ready, the crew was formed, the ship passed all the necessary mooring and sea trials, however, the transfer to the customer was postponed again due to inconsistency of financial and legal issues with the customer.

The icebreaker of project 22600 was built by order of the FSUE "Rosmorport" according to the contract signed with USC in December 2011. The icebreaker was laid down at Baltic Shipyard-Shipbuilding LLC on October 10, 2012. According to the plans of shipbuilders, the icebreaker should be commissioned in 2015, but in 2013 the construction was stopped due to gross errors during the development of the design documentation for the vessel, as a result of which the design overweight on the mass of the icebreaker was about 2,5 thousand tons.

The construction of the icebreaker for the redesigned project was resumed at BSZ only in the second half of 2016, and in September 2017, the icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin of the 22600 project (LC-25) was transferred for completion afloat from Baltiysky Zavodostroenie LLC to the opposite shore Neva on the JSC "Admiralty Shipyards". The reason for this was the workload of the BSZ on the construction of the 22220 project icebreakers (LK-60Я).

However, the misfortunes did not end there: in November 2018, a fire occurred on the vessel under construction, as a result of which part of the icebreaker equipment was damaged. The consequence of the fire was another shift in the delivery of the icebreaker to the right due to damage to imported equipment, which was being replaced in Korea and Europe.
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  1. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 11 August 2020 13: 05
    +9
    This has never happened before, and suddenly again ... The construction is not easy, and God forbid that they no longer move ... hi
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 August 2020 13: 20
      +6
      due to the revealed gross errors in the development of the ship's design documentation

      there was a fire on the ship under construction

      "We must all lie on this and get what we should have." - V.S.Ch.
      1. Shilka
        Shilka 11 August 2020 15: 54
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "We must all lie on this and get what we should have." - V.S.Ch.

        This is not the place where you can only with the language ..))))
        Well Stepanich, a walking aphorism was ..!
        Well, we are waiting for September-November. The icebreaker is powerful, of course, and you see it is not easy inside!
        1. bayard
          bayard 11 August 2020 23: 28
          +4
          The shipbuilders failed the order, they built a frank invalid, overweight by 2 tons (!!!). This ship was unhappy in construction on the slipway, in completion, and in trials. Therefore, sending it to the Arctic is a shame and crap. The customer does not need it like that, therefore ... for the public they honestly said that it would ... "work in the Baltic", where it is not needed for nothing ... Especially so expensive.
          In short, not a steamer, but a continuous aphorism. yes
          "What will you call the ship
          So it will float "
          request bully
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 11 August 2020 13: 38
      +5
      wanted the best, but it turned out to be such an icebreaker
    3. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 11 August 2020 14: 55
      +7
      Quote: VadimLives
      It never happened, and suddenly again.

      As you name the icebreaker, so it will float ...
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 11 August 2020 13: 13
    23
    Dear authors.
    Thanks for your articles.
    Request.
    Accompany such articles with technical specifications.
    If the "most powerful in the world" is approved.
    It becomes interesting to me how powerful, more powerful than what, etc. and so on.
    You can, of course, rummage in the internet.
    However, the article would be more valuable and more interesting if we provide technical data and any comparisons.

    Thank you.
    hi
    1. Errr
      Errr 11 August 2020 13: 48
      11
      Rummaged. It turns out that "Viktor Chernomyrdin" with a capacity of 25 MW (34 thousand hp) is far from the most powerful in the world. Back in 1976, a non-nuclear "Polar Star" (USCGC "Polar Star") with a total engine power of 78 thousand liters was put into operation in the USA. from. (over 57 MW). Six Alco 16V-251F diesel engines (6 × 3000 hp (2200 kW)) plus three Pratt & Whitney FT-4A12 gas turbines (3 × 25 hp (000 kW)). The iron is still puffing, although lately it seems like it’s gasping for breath. smile
      Excuse me for my involuntary smile, but when will our narcissism run out ... hi
      1. Sergey_G_M
        Sergey_G_M 11 August 2020 14: 09
        +6
        The most powerful in the world diesel-electric icebreaker "Viktor Chernomyrdin"

        The difference in engines, diesel-electric is much more maneuverable

        Polar Star can't do that
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 11 August 2020 19: 14
          +2
          Secretly, all icebreakers are electric. Rigid gearing hasn't been done since the days of steam engines. I hope you understand the reasons, no need to explain
          And this design with an electric motor in a swivel nacelle is called Azipod. And this thing is imported (ABB - Alsthom), and import substitution does not even shine.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 11 August 2020 23: 46
        0
        Quote: Herrr
        far from the most powerful in the world

        It is about diesel electric icebreakers, and not just "non-nuclear" ones with gas turbines and diesel engines.
        1. Errr
          Errr 12 August 2020 08: 03
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          We are talking about diesel-electric icebreakers, not just "non-nuclear" ones with gas turbines and diesel engines.
          Can you tell me what is wrong in the article on the link below? what
          https://sudostroenie.info/novosti/29519.html
          Quoting from the above article:
          Recall diesel electric icebreaker "Ermak" 30,4 MW was built by order of the USSR in Finland in 1974.
  3. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 11 August 2020 13: 15
    +6
    And where did "Ilya Muromets" and his brothers go? There is a whole brigade of them in the port of Petersburg in the summer. The Gulf of Finland
    it freezes, they work in winter. Unclear article title
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2020 15: 09
      0
      Quote: seregatara1969
      There is a whole brigade of them in the port of St. Petersburg in the summer.

      There is more work in the Baltic than in the North.
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 August 2020 13: 15
    +2
    I don’t know how to whom, but for me the name of the icebreaker is successful. And the history of its creation to the point. It fits right under its name. I already read a bunch of statements by V.S. Chernomyrdin before this comment lol
    The locomotive of economic growth is like an elephant in a famous place ...
    And there is just such a storehouse.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 August 2020 13: 31
      +9
      "I won't say anything, otherwise I'll say something again!" V.S.Ch. lol
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 11 August 2020 13: 33
      +2
      About "our near abroad" I especially like.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2020 15: 08
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      I don’t know how to whom, but for me the name is good for the icebreaker.

      For a ship, the most unfortunate name is the name of a lost ship. If the new Titanic comes out, it will be a bad ship. They tried to build "Titanic" according to the designs of Sarel Goose and Clive Palmer, but have not yet completed it. So the bad name already shows "Don't build me".
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 11 August 2020 13: 16
    -2
    Who will be the first to issue warnings Norway, Sweden or the United States? The commissioning of a new icebreaker of the Russian Federation shows the aggressiveness of its intentions in the Arctic. Now accusations are raining down
    1. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 11 August 2020 13: 20
      -3
      All Balts, and small balts, and shyshya hi.
  6. minus
    minus 11 August 2020 13: 28
    +2
    Viktor Chernomyrdin ... lol
  7. KAVBER
    KAVBER 11 August 2020 13: 32
    +6
    Nuu "You are not here" will work where you need to work and do not care about all the squeals from not to neighboring states
  8. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 11 August 2020 13: 38
    0
    With such a name and a history of construction, let it at least fit for the Baltic, since the Arctic cannot be mastered, although it is the most powerful there in the world request
  9. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 11 August 2020 13: 56
    0
    Ice in April-May?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2020 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Ice in April-May?

      In the Baltic, from Gogland to St. Petersburg in April, not to mention Vyborg and Ust-Luga, there is always ice conditions.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 11 August 2020 14: 57
        -2
        I hope that Chernomyrdin will overcome the winter ice too.
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 August 2020 13: 59
    -1
    Forgot to add. The world's most powerful non-nuclear icebreaker. I hope the Vyartsilä diesel generators so that the engine crew does not suffer. Seven feet under the keel.
  11. Alexander X
    Alexander X 11 August 2020 14: 03
    0
    The name of the ice code is somehow not very happy. I wish everything turned out the best and not ...
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 August 2020 14: 06
    -5
    Has the Baltic Sea been freezing lately?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2020 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Has the Baltic Sea been freezing lately?

      And when did the Baltic Sea not freeze?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 August 2020 15: 25
        +2
        I quite sincerely asked ... In my opinion, only shallow bays freeze. Finnish, Bothnian. In Stockholm I saw Swedish icebreakers - they are small.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 August 2020 15: 55
          +5
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I quite sincerely asked ... In my opinion, only shallow bays freeze. Finnish, Bothnian.

          From Drogden every 10 years, from Saaremaa every 5 years, from Nargen, Rodsher, almost every year, from Gogalnd every year until the end of April, and these are 4 Russian ports, and the ice situation is not easy. Kaliningrad and Klaipeda do not freeze, the Gulf of Riga freezes almost every year.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 11 August 2020 15: 57
            +3
            thanks for the clarifications good
      2. Deck
        Deck 12 August 2020 20: 27
        -2
        For example this winter
    2. Hikaro
      Hikaro 11 August 2020 15: 07
      +6
      The Gulf of Finland freezes on the approaches to Kotlin Island! The depths are shallow and the climate is appropriate! Most of the ice forms in late December, mid-January, and lasts until April! Therefore, icebreakers provide pilotage of ships along the sea channel and in the waters of the Gulf of Finland! Don't forget also about two important freezing ports like Vysotsk and Primorsk !! Icebreakers work there too! Itself more than once went by tanker to Vysotsk in winter, following the icebreaker at full speed!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 August 2020 16: 05
        +3
        Quote: Hikaro
        Itself more than once went by tanker to Vysotsk in winter, following the icebreaker at full speed!

        Ust-Luga is not a gift either.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 August 2020 17: 04
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Has the Baltic Sea been freezing lately?

      It depends on what to count last time.
      In 2011, ALED "Vaigach" had to be sent to the Gulf of Finland.

      In 2012 and even steeper - the "heavy" ALED "50 years of victory" and "Russia" worked in the Federal Law.
      The world's largest nuclear-powered ship "50 Years of Victory" arrived in the Baltic on February 3, 2012 and immediately got down to work, having driven more than 130 ships in a month. "Russia" changed it on March 7th.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 August 2020 22: 08
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        In 2011, ALED "Vaigach" had to be sent to the Gulf of Finland.

        As I remember the ice Baltic in 2011 and 2012, I still feel cold sweat on my back.
  13. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 11 August 2020 14: 43
    +6
    Perhaps the "belmorkanal" hinted at me. Yes, I will not grumble, grumble and find fault with either the article or the difficult beginning of the fate of "the world's most powerful DIESEL-ELECTRIC icebreaker", or the name in honor of a famous Russian person. Everybody has mistakes and temporary failures, and fires happen on many ships (mainly due to the carelessness of coastal gouges). So, "Seven feet under the keel" is not the last icebreaker in the world! I hope we will hear a lot more good about him. ALL - a good joyful day!

    Why do I want? Himself a fisherman-sailor-Far East in the past. And I VERY appreciate the kind word.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2020 16: 14
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Yes, I will not grumble, grumble and find fault with either the article or the difficult beginning of the fate of "the world's most powerful DIESEL-ELECTRIC icebreaker"

      Yes, this is an excellent icebreaker, for the Baltic it is a fairy tale. And most importantly, he has excellent propeller-driven columns.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 11 August 2020 22: 54
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Perhaps the "belmorkanal" hinted at me.

      Do not pay attention to talking cigarettes, because dialogue with them is harmful to mental health wassat hi
  14. mik193
    mik193 11 August 2020 14: 43
    0
    It seems to me that everything turns out according to the phrase from the famous cartoon: "What do you call a yacht, so it will float" .... I apologize for repeating myself ...
  15. Tests
    Tests 11 August 2020 18: 04
    0
    seregatara1969 (Sergey), dear, I support you by the name of the material at all 202%. "Icebreaker with a disfigured nose" - "Mudyug" in the port of St. Petersburg has been working in "Rosmorport" for many years, the Germans modernized it so that it was transferred from the Arkhangelsk port to Leningradsky ... I saw it last year in July, the last time, from Putilovskaya embankment of Kanonersky Island, came to St. Petersburg to his youngest daughter at the graduation ceremony in "Makarovka"
  16. Rzzz
    Rzzz 11 August 2020 19: 18
    -1
    He is big for work in the Gulf of Finland, there would be more compact than anything.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 August 2020 19: 22
      +2
      Quote: rzzz
      He is big for work in the Gulf of Finland, there would be more compact than anything.

      Practice shows that anything can work in the Gulf of Finland. smile
      In 2012, "50 Years of Victory" worked for us.
  17. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 11 August 2020 19: 33
    -2
    "According to the plans of the shipbuilders, the icebreaker is to be commissioned in 2015, but in 2013 the construction was stopped due to gross errors revealed in the development of the ship's design documentation, as a result of which the design overweight in terms of the icebreaker mass load was about 2,5 thousand tons."
    "However, the misfortunes did not end there: in November 2018, a fire broke out on the ship under construction, as a result of which part of the icebreaker's equipment was damaged. The consequence of the fire was another shift in the delivery of the icebreaker to the right due to damage to imported equipment, which was sought for replacement in Korea and Europe."
    This has never happened and here again!
  18. Shadow041
    Shadow041 11 August 2020 21: 12
    +3
    The ship is good, the name is bad!
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 12 August 2020 09: 57
      -2
      Dear, your short comment was rejected. Both the first and the second part.
      "Ship" through the efforts of illiterate TV presenters and people far from sea work has lost its main importance. Today, ships are called both large aircraft (the commander of a ship ... sounds!), And large Ships. And once the encyclopedia clearly said: "A ship is a warship." Even today, any fisherman, sailor, person who is firmly and for a long time connected with the sea will not call a CIVIL ship a ship. Just imagine the phrase: "There is a ship for catching (processing) fish". Or: "There is a ship carrying coal (containers, seafood, timber, oil)." By the way, today there are military icebreakers. The simplest difference between a ship and a ship: the ship is commanded by the commander, and the ship is commanded by the captain.
      Why is the name bad? Yes, Chernomyrdin was an ambiguous person. And he was a lot of freaks. But we are all not without sin! And why not name the outstanding icebreaker (the world's most powerful diesel-electric ship) after the name of an outstanding RUSSIAN man?
  19. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 11 August 2020 21: 24
    0
    Who will send him to plow the NSR without ice tests, when he passes, then he will work where necessary.
  20. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 13 August 2020 08: 16
    0
    This has never happened before, and again ... Yes, a lot of work has been done in the post of ambassador.