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Poland miscalculated with shale gas production

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Poland miscalculated with shale gas production

Poland miscalculated, betting on shale gas production, hopes were not justified. This was stated by Jerzy Kwieczyński, Chairman of the Board of the Polish oil and gas concern PGNiG, on the air of Polish Radio.


Answering a journalist's question about whether the hopes for shale gas production were justified, Kveczynski replied that if "in the near future, then not very much." At the same time, he noted that Poland could return to shale gas production "in the distant future" when methods for its production will be worked out.

Reportedly, a few years ago, the Polish authorities staked on the production of their own shale gas. Specialists from the United States have calculated that up to a trillion cubic meters of gas can be produced in the country. However, hopes were not destined to come true, since gas in Poland lies deeper than in the United States, and it is simply unprofitable to extract it, especially since world gas prices have fallen. It is also emphasized that the American shale gas production technology is not suitable for Poland.

It must be said that shale gas in Poland is not exactly the same as in the United States. The technology that worked well there did not work well in Europe. This applies not only to Poland, but also to other countries. So we must put this "dream" aside for now.

- said Kveczynski

Recall that the agreement on the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to renew it.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 11 August 2020 11: 49 New
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    Poland miscalculated with shale gas production
    And they were able to count that? All my life, some Wishlist. fool
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 11 August 2020 11: 53 New
      +8
      Poland miscalculated, betting on shale gas production, hopes were not justified. This was announced by Jerzy Kwieczyński, Chairman of the Board of the Polish oil and gas concern PGNiG

      You can extract gas from cattle exhaust, know-how in Polish.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 11 August 2020 11: 55 New
        10
        The raguli exhaust will be thicker
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 11 August 2020 11: 54 New
      +4
      Poland miscalculated with shale gas production

      And also Poland will miscalculate with the American shale gas - it simply will not be enough with the current bankruptcy of their shale producers. And Poland will miscalculate with Russian gas - gas will go past it. yes
      1. halpat
        halpat 11 August 2020 12: 05 New
        +8
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Poland miscalculated with shale gas production

        And also Poland will miscalculate with the American shale gas - it simply will not be enough with the current bankruptcy of their shale producers. And Poland will miscalculate with Russian gas - gas will go past it. yes

        So they tried a much better way to solve gas problems, both in Ukraine and in Poland - to fine Gazprom.
        Draw fines for the amount of gas needs, and at the prices of American liquefied gas, add there the cost of building storage and regasification facilities, and EVERYTHING - life is a success.
        Moreover, this does not depend on whether there is a pipe or not. Arrest yourself Gazprom money around the world and send it to Uncle Sam, and Uncle Sam will supply democratic gas straight from the city on the hill ... at any price he likes.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 11 August 2020 13: 00 New
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        Quote: SRC P-15
        Poland miscalculated with shale gas production

        And also Poland will miscalculate with the American shale gas - it simply will not be enough with the current bankruptcy of their shale producers. And Poland will miscalculate with Russian gas - the gas will go past her. yes

        The time will come when the Poles will scratch at the doors of Gazprom, only then he will remember those 2,5 billion dollars that they have seized from him and their zeal to obstruct the construction of the SP-2.
      3. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 11 August 2020 13: 06 New
        +4
        Recall that the agreement on the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to renew it.
        I'm just sure that if the Poles understand their stupidity and ask for Russian gas again, Miller and others like him will rush to meet them, because this directly concerns Gazprom's foreign exchange earnings. And the well-being of Gazprom is above all. This is, after all, a "PEOPLE'S TRUE"!
    3. St Petrov
      St Petrov 11 August 2020 11: 56 New
      +1
      And they were able to count that?

      the main thing is not to buy from Gazprom. Mathematics - an imperial science from the North - is used by scientists in independent countries. A good Pole will never use some kind of math, if there is an option to show the Muscovite Duly

      And since such a booze - it's time for the Poles to make the most expensive gas. We still need to fight back what they have sued

      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 11 August 2020 12: 15 New
        +3
        the agreement on the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to renew it.
        And then their shale gas will immediately become "National Treasure"!
    4. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 11 August 2020 13: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Poland miscalculated with shale gas production
      And they were able to count that? All my life, some Wishlist. fool

      Yes, "very much wanted ..." They gave themselves to Uncle Sam to such an extent that they were sure that he counted everything for them correctly ... And then such a surprise, it turned out to be just a "dream" ... crying
  2. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 11 August 2020 11: 54 New
    +2
    Hello again"
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 11 August 2020 11: 56 New
    +5
    the agreement for the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to extend it

    So I would not extend specifically for Poland. This allowed Germany to subjugate the policy of "too independent Poland", it's time to start taking responsibility
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 11 August 2020 12: 13 New
      +1
      And with the completion of sp2, it will be so.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 11 August 2020 12: 02 New
    +3
    So we must put this "dream" aside for now.
    ... And let sleep, sleep, and remain ... We would have dirtied our own territory so that mom does not grieve ... and others would be touched ...
  5. NKT
    NKT 11 August 2020 12: 05 New
    +1
    I wonder why he is not like that? Is it not methane or is it without the “atom” of freedom?
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 August 2020 12: 10 New
    0

    Poland miscalculated, betting on shale gas production, hopes were not justified
    Did you want it to be like the Merikatos? laughing wassat laughing On business - heat with wood. laughing
  7. RUnnm
    RUnnm 11 August 2020 12: 17 New
    +1
    I think they will again fine Gazprom through their own court for the fact that their oil shale is too expensive.
    One hope is that after the completion of JV2, Germany will simply crush them with prices for gas supplies. And it's more expensive to complain about Germany - to immediately lose the remaining subsidies from the EU.
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 11 August 2020 12: 19 New
    +1
    Roll your lips back, Poles. Trillion cubes, yeah right now!
  9. 1536
    1536 11 August 2020 12: 27 New
    +3
    I saw a documentary showing the environmental disaster in Texas as a result of shale gas production. Lunar landscape, all life destroyed by toxic chemicals to rupture hydroplasts. But the area of ​​Texas is 695 square meters. km, and the area of ​​the country Poland is 662 312 sq. km, i.e. half the size, nature is completely different, Poland, alas, is located in densely populated Europe. It seems that it has finally reached the Poles that there is no need to play ape. It is not difficult to guess who will pick up the "baton" for shale gas production in Europe.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 11 August 2020 12: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: 1536
      It seems that it has finally reached the Poles that there is no need to play ape.

      Aha! You just need to keep your nose up, so they came up with "we have not the same gas as in the USA"
  10. bulava
    bulava 11 August 2020 12: 33 New
    +2
    Contact British scientists, they say that they invented a new gas there
  11. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 11 August 2020 13: 09 New
    +2
    It must be said that shale gas in Poland is not exactly the same as in the United States.
    Well yes. In the USA "liberty" is gas, and in Poland it is "polished".
  12. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 11 August 2020 13: 16 New
    +1
    A fable to them about the "dragonfly and the ant."
  13. Charik
    Charik 11 August 2020 13: 19 New
    -2
    and the fact that they fucked Gazprom at ??? $ -it doesn't count?
  14. Charik
    Charik 11 August 2020 13: 22 New
    +1
    So we have to put this "dream" aside for now - is it not a dream - take more Americans to your place - they will eat a lot, poop a lot - and then you will extract gas from it
  15. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 11 August 2020 13: 53 New
    0
    They miscalculated the political course ... the rest of the investigation ...
  16. Maks1995
    Maks1995 11 August 2020 14: 04 New
    -1
    Some kind of crap in the article. Peremozhnaya.

    When the oil shale boom was still beginning, it was reported about the meeting of the European Energy Commission that the reserves in Poland and Europe are small, inconvenient, and they will not be particularly developed.

    Here in the Donbas there are large deposits ... But there the polite little green men arrived in time and made everyone Kayuk.

    So the Europeans and Poles never had any hope or illusions. They hardly wrote about the production.
  17. iouris
    iouris 11 August 2020 14: 32 New
    0
    The point is that "shale gas" and the story of MN-17 were "promoted" in order to overthrow the "regime in Moscow". This is the "miscalculation".
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 August 2020 14: 35 New
    +1
    Gas prices are very low.
    To extract and transport even ordinary gas is on the verge of profitability.
    Liquefied can still be sold, because it is bought "in reserve". Only Qatar (and Australia?) Gas liquefaction is profitable because of the large volumes of production and sales.
  19. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 11 August 2020 14: 37 New
    +1
    To extract shale using the method of hydrodynamic fracturing is generally not to respect its nature and population. We have banned this by law. And gas has become so cheap and can be bought literally everywhere in Europe that there is no point in contaminating nature. Russian, American, Azeri, in the future, and Mediterranean gas - all of this can be bought for cheap and it will be so for a very long time.
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 August 2020 15: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      We have banned this by law.

      "The law is like a drawbar: where you turn, there you go" (Bulgarian proverb).
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 11 August 2020 18: 30 New
        0
        "The law is like a drawbar: where you turn, there you go"


        laughing Well, unfortunately it happens. But in combination with civil society, it works.
        In the past 2 years, the government has received many protests on the topic of preserving nature and has backed down to all of them. And now he has completely bothered everyone and will fall from power.
  20. iouris
    iouris 11 August 2020 15: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Russia has delivered to the US over 9 million tons of oil products for $ 2,2 billion in six months. This is a record since at least 2004, according to the data of the Federal Customs Service. According to experts, the States are replacing heavy oil from the sanctioned Venezuela with fuel oil ...
    “In the USA they are guided only by the economic component. Apparently, during this period (the first half of 2020), Russian fuel is more profitable than other offers, so importers in the United States increased their purchases. Including fuel from Russia replaces Venezuelan supplies "- said an analyst at Raiffeisenbank ..." End of quote.
  21. Brturin
    Brturin 11 August 2020 15: 05 New
    0
    the agreement for the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to extend it

    With shale "in the near future, it is not very good", but as in the near future with the Norwegian for the widely advertised Baltic Pipe. Of the planned 10 billion so far, the Poles have their own production of 2,5 - 3 billion, and it is not known how it will go, but to buy the remaining 7 billion from the Norwegians who have their own obligations ... And the environmentalists turned around, started collecting signatures against Baltic Pipe , if they get 50 thousand, the question will go to parliament ... we'll see, but for now ...
    According to PGNiG, the company imported 1,15 billion cubic meters from the southern and western directions. However, as the statistics of ENTSOG, the united platform of European GTS operators, show, only 220 million cubic meters came in the form of real supplies - from the Czech Republic. The rest was made up of a virtual reverse from Germany.
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/08/11/polsha-peredumala-snizhat-zakupki-u-gazproma
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 August 2020 15: 54 New
    0
    laughing It's like a non-commissioned officer's widow whipped herself. If the burghers knew how they were ... t, they would hanged themselves after the Poles. laughing I remind you for gas you must pay in CURRENCY. wassat
  23. 23424636
    23424636 11 August 2020 15: 56 New
    0
    The Poles are ready to do anything to please amers before the settlement period for the huge funds allocated by the European Union for the Polish economy begins. Trying to escape from creditors, cleverly done psheks are trying to get on an American ship, but the sides are high and the Eurobankers are pulling by the legs. In this regard, I would like to recall the expresident of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. who, with his power, decided to blow up the strata of the northern Donbass to the tune of the US Democrats and their carriage driver Biden, fortunately the boy could not stay in the saddle, otherwise the Donbass would still remember his fellow countryman with an unkind word for this reason.
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 August 2020 16: 03 New
    0
    Do you know how thimblers play? They give the victim a few small bets at the beginning to win several times before diluting it big. laughing But most importantly, we need a gas war with the EU, but we cannot start it ourselves. You need to wait.
  25. Shilka
    Shilka 11 August 2020 16: 13 New
    +1
    for the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to extend it.

    Usually they always yell like that, and then, towards the end of the term, everyone becomes silent and quietly extends the delivery period.
  26. tuts
    tuts 11 August 2020 18: 38 New
    +2
    "To spite my mother's ears, I'll frostbite" - that's the state of Poland
  27. morpogr
    morpogr 11 August 2020 19: 02 New
    0
    They will buy from the USA at an exorbitant price, because they built a terminal for lng, and the hegemon will praise it. laughing The main thing is not cheap Russian, but democratic for expensive. fool
  28. cniza
    cniza 11 August 2020 19: 09 New
    +1
    Recall that the agreement on the supply of Russian gas to Poland expires in 2022, and Warsaw has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to renew it.


    Master master, you will buy from the owner ...
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 August 2020 20: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    To extract shale using the method of hydrodynamic fracturing is generally not to respect its nature and population. We have banned this by law. And gas has become so cheap and can be bought literally everywhere in Europe that there is no point in contaminating nature. Russian, American, Azeri, in the future, and Mediterranean gas - all of this can be bought for cheap and it will be so for a very long time.

    laughing not yet evening

    play with streams for a long time

    in 5 years the Ukrainian direction will be seriously cut

    Russia is already cutting pipes on its territory laughing
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 August 2020 20: 23 New
    0
    Yoksel-moxel! Russia on the rack ... laughing
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 August 2020 20: 28 New
    0
    There are two types of independence in the modern world. Showy and real. The first is determined by the volume of the vocal cords. The second is energy + the ability to provide yourself with this energy. (This clarification is necessary to understand why the United States, Switzerland and Japan are conditionally independent).

    So the former republics of the USSR and the ATS countries are champions in the gap between ostentatious and real independence. Showy independence rushing from all cracks, as from a combination of stale kefir and whitewash. And real independence tends to zero - for they have neither their own energy, nor the ability to obtain this energy by economic or military means.

    Hence the pigs squeals and every time "anaszachto". laughing
  32. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 11 August 2020 21: 31 New
    0
    Poland has already divided the profits from "unrecovered shale gas" bully ... waking up in the morning, you have to go to your neighbor "hangover" belay
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 August 2020 10: 42 New
      +2
      Poland went to "hangover" to Norway. The Norway-Poland gas pipeline is being built.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 12 August 2020 19: 22 New
        0
        Poland threatens to "hangover" in the USA - a "shop" was built in Swinoujscie (until October 4, 1945 Swinemunde in Germany).
  33. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 12 August 2020 08: 53 New
    0
    You might think that Poland cares about these skins, they gave them a hand to the owner, he will not be weaned from the trough now and is normal.