Upgraded Su-30SM fighters will receive a new heavy missile

The Russian Su-30SM fighter will receive a new heavy air-to-surface missile. The work is being carried out as part of the "Adaptation-Su" development work. This was reported by Izvestia with reference to sources in the military-industrial complex.

As the newspaper writes, within the framework of the Adaptation-Su design and development project, Russian specialists are developing a new missile to equip Su-30SM fighters. In this case, the name of the rocket and its data are not disclosed. According to experts, here we can talk about the adaptation of the X-32 hypersonic missile for use on fighters, although the option of creating a completely new ammunition is possible.

Development work "Adaptation-Su" on the modernization of the multifunctional fighter Su-30SM began in 2015. Several leading companies of the Russian military-industrial complex are involved in this development work, including the State Machine-Building Design Bureau "Raduga" named after A.Ya. Bereznyak, the largest manufacturer of supersonic and hypersonic weapons for aviation.

If the information on the rocket itself is kept secret, then there is information on the modernization of the fighter. It is known that for the use of new ammunition on the Su-30SM, the N011M Bars radar will be modified, the computer system and the onboard defense complex will be updated. Completion of work is scheduled for the end of this year.

The Su-30SM fighter has been serially supplied to the troops since 2013. The aircraft is armed with an extensive arsenal of high-precision weapons and bombs. Su-30SM naval aviation is also equipped with Kh-31 anti-ship missiles.

Comments

[Zaurbek]

If we take our "Friends" as an example, then the main trend in such matters is small-sized RCs weighing up to 1 ton and a range of 900-1000 km. Moreover, such missiles also have an anti-ship missile version with all the goodies - the STEELS type of coatings and the gregarious principle of attack of the ship's order .... with target selection.

[Andrey Ostroushko]

So yesterday there was news that tests of a small-sized aircraft cruise missile X-50 with a launch range of 1500 km are nearing completion. Could this be it?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Andrey Ostroushko

there was news that tests of a small-sized aircraft cruise missile X-50 with a launch range of 1500 km are nearing completion. Could this be it?

And why is it all of a sudden? It is said about this "tyzholy" rocket that you can guess what its name is (!) And information about performance characteristics is practically absent ...! Quite a lot is known about the X-50! If the information about the missile - "mute" is correct, at least in the part of the "base" (X-32), then we can assume from this certain performance characteristics ...! But even here ... "a shadow on the fence"! (What is the phrase: maybe X-32, or maybe from scratch! "Guess, they say, yourself!" ...)

[Zaurbek]

This one is large for tactical vehicles ..... it should be even smaller.

[5-9]

Only they are lyam-one and a half basses / oiro cost ... not for every day ...

[alexmach]

And the air-based KR is "not for every day"

[hrych]

Do not take them as an example. They have always lagged behind us in anti-ship missile technologies. They did not manage to make a supersonic anti-ship missile. And people are already mastering hypersound. They have subsonic missiles. AGM-158 JASSM with a range of 370 km. A swing of 980 km with additional tanks and a more economical engine, of course, is doubtful and apparently the calculation for the future of nuclear equipment. Of at least 19 of these missiles fired into Syria, 12 were shot down during the attack on Dumeir airfield. To put it mildly ... a shame given the attack of a not very advanced opponent. "Divine" stealth technologies did not help. The hypersonic Kh-32, of course, is designed for a tactical nuclear charge, its interception is doubtful. Due to its speed, it is unrealistic for the ship to escape from the affected area. Such an absolute weapon.

[Zaurbek]

For them it is not so important ... AUG did not threaten the NATO fleet. Now the Chinese fleet has appeared and started doing it. Japan, Sweden and Norway, and without the US, are quite successfully making anti-ship missiles

[hrych]

Moreover, any milusga is not our authority. Russia is a nuclear power with its own strategic tasks. We do not take aviation anti-ship missiles, but there is one rule of a duel, the enemy frigate shoots at us from a distance, to hell with it, 800 km (although even the Americans don't have such, the tomahawk anti-ship missile system has not been able to cope with it), and it takes an hour to fly its subsonic shelf, in response gets onyx on board in 20 minutes, and Zircon gets hypersonic ... in 4 minutes. Try to intercept a supersonic anti-ship missile, or better a hypersonic one. And the Syrians catch them. So what? Who do you call to learn from? Aviation anti-ship missiles? So here we have the X-32 and the Dagger will be carried away on hypersound. And what about them?

[Zaurbek]

F18 and F35S missiles will be launched at us, which will fly off the aircraft carrier. And to start up Zircon, you need a control center from some kind of carrier.

[hrych]

No, they won't fly out, they won't have time. Who will allow them to reach the line of attack. That is, if B-2 and B-1b try. Satellite targeting from the Liana system, or better from the OGRLS of the Container and Volna. In vain we deploy chtol global systems?

[Zaurbek]

And who won't let them?

[hrych]

Nobody will allow, the main thing is they will not dare to do this, otherwise Washington will burn. But there is nothing to learn from losers. And if we decide to attack, then their pilot will not have time to reach the cockpit on his aircraft carrier, let alone take off, let alone reach the line of attack. Hypersound is not a joke. This is a gigantic speed and minimum flight time, when a rocket covers a thousand kilometers in a matter of minutes. They tell you that a hypersonic X-32 on a supersonic plane is very scary, no, you cite as an example the f-35 inferior in speed with an unfortunate subsonic missile, they say you need to learn. Why's that? We also have subsonic anti-ship missiles, and the Caliber has a supersonic stage in the final. We also have subsonic Uranus or X-35. But the whole point is to smash the enemy, so that he doesn't have time to utter a sound from a decent distance.

[Zaurbek]

I will not burn Washington ... but the ship may well sink

[hrych]

Why didn't they drown before? This is a pretext for war, and the war of the superpowers is definitely nuclear. And you, urging to learn from them, simply have no idea what hypersound is and how much we are ahead of them in technology.

[Zaurbek]

And the Russian Federation did not ask for trouble .... expressed concern.

[hrych]

Quote: Zaurbek

And the Russian Federation did not ask for trouble .... expressed concern.

In Crimea? In Georgia? In Syria? When did our squadron block the advance of the NATO armada to seize the Syrian coast? Or when they chased Cook with rags? Or when the Americans were kicked out of Manas?

[Zaurbek]

Has the Russian Federation encountered the NATO fleet or NATO countries there?

[hrych]

Quote: Zaurbek

Has the Russian Federation encountered the NATO fleet or NATO countries there?

Cook is not the nato fleet?

[Zaurbek]

Who was "blinded" by the Su24?

[hrych]

On it, the Su-24 practiced the approach to the attack several times, very unnerving and flew alongside on a low level flight, the roar of engines muffling the membranes of the personnel. If you think it's nice and fun, then it's not. Cook also understood that under the sight of anti-ship missiles and torpedoes of the submarine. Whether electronic warfare was used against him, there is no exact data, only rumors. But the entry of a bomber with a span of tens of meters from the deck is quite enough to put the sailors in their pants.

[Bez 310]

Sorry, of course, but where do you get all your nonsense from,
about anti-ship missiles, and especially about our anti-ship missile center? You are something in this
you understand, or just headings were picked up "in your
internet "?

[Zaurbek]

Let's still weed out propaganda from reality .... which regions are covered, what accuracy .... which of our ships can use such anti-ship missiles, how many are there? How far offshore can they operate? How versatile they are in terms of armament and purpose.

[Zaurbek]

And how do the missiles learn about the target?

[Observer2014]

Su-30SM will receive a new heavy air-to-surface missile.

Well, why not. And then only the MiG-31 in conjunction with the "Dagger" is somehow not very We need more capabilities and a wider range of media.

[Pavel57]

The Su-30 is multipurpose, but more focused on the task of hitting ground and surface targets.

[Zaurbek]

What makes you think .... there are two pilots, and not a pilot and navigator operator, as on the Su34.

[Herman 4223]

There is a pilot and co-pilot operator to control weapons and air combat.

[Zaurbek]

Aren't the cabins the same there?

[Herman 4223]

Probably not quite.
https://militaryarms.ru/voennaya-texnika/aviaciya/istrebitel-su-30/

[rocket757]

Quantity, quality ... it can work out in different ways. In general, the Aerospace Forces is an efficient and dangerous combat unit of our armed forces.

[Alexey-74]

Good news.

[Aibolit]

According to experts, here we can talk about adapting the X-32 hypersonic missile for use on fighters, although the option of creating a completely new ammunition is possible.

igperd issued in full.
"may" "although possible"

X-32 / 9-A-2362

Length - 11,65 m
Wingspan - 3 m
Height:
- with folded keel - 1,81 m
- with keel released - 2,44 m
The diameter of the fuselage - 0.92 m
Weight - 5780 kg

Su 30 has no BD-45F (especially K) or BD-294

here we can talk about the adaptation of the X-32 hypersonic missile for use on fighters,

With a plane? With a file?
or by "strengthening" the MBD3-U6-68?

[Cyril G ...]

Well, they hang 34 tons of PTBs under the Su-3 between the engines, although there shouldn't be any talk about the X-32, but Onyx suggests itself. The Indians built from scratch about 30 Su-30MKI carriers Brahmos

[Aibolit]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Well, they hang 34 tons between the engines under the Su-3 PTB,

article about the Su-34?
PTB by weight 2 times, almost less than the Kh-32
And the wings? Wingspan - 3 m, HOW IS THERE WITH THE CHASSIS?

Quote: Cyril G ...

The Indians built from scratch about 30 Su-30MKI carriers Brahmos

BraMos-A, has "only" a launch weight of about 2,5 tons
and not independently, but with the Sukhoi Design Bureau and not 30, but a contract for 40 units is ready for now 5

Quote: Cyril G ...

Why not Irbis?

Radar control system "BARS" is adapted for installation on the Su-30MKM, Su-30MKA, Su-30MKI aircraft.
Radar control system "Irbis-" for Su-35 aircraft

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Aibolit

PTB by weight 2 times, almost less than the Kh-32

Did I say something about the X-32 suspension? I quote literally -

although there shouldn't be any talk about the X-32, but Onyx suggests itself.

Further,

, and with KB "Sukhoi" and not 30, but a contract for 40 units, 5

It's clear about the Sukhoi Design Bureau, but only 5 missile carriers did not know what was ready ...

Radar control system "BARS"

The issue of adaptation is primarily a matter of energy consumption, right? If the upgraded Su-30SM goes into production, what is the unsolvable problem there in the placement of the Irbis? Well, apart from the price increase, of course ...

[Aibolit]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Did I say something about the X-32 suspension? I quote literally -

What is it for then?

Quote: Cyril G ...

Well, they hang 34 tons between the engines under the Su-3 PTB

?
Well they are hanging. and the bombs are hanging and the NURS blocks

Quote: Cyril G ...

The issue of adaptation is primarily a matter of energy consumption, right?

no, not really.
The size of the web and the capacity of the on-board computer for signal processing is important.
and so on electricity
SU-30 = GTDE-117 (-1) Applied on RD-33 and AL-31F engines
Output shaft power in starter mode 98 hp
Output shaft power in power unit mode 70 HP = 95,2 kVA
The main modifications - GTDE-117 and GTDE-117-1 - are installed on MiG-29, MiG-29K, Su-27,
Su-30, Su-33, Su-35, etc.
SU-35 also has TA14-130-35

Provides air start of aircraft propulsion engines, AC power supply 200/115 V and power up to 20 kVA

It would be necessary to put the TA14-130-35 in the SU-30, it's simple

[Cyril G ...]

the Su-30SM radar station N011M "Bars" will be modified,

Why not Irbis?

[5-9]

Maybe there won't be enough power for the Irbis? Yes, and completely replace the radar (for the most powerful in the world) and modernize the current one, it is completely different in both money and time.

[bars1]

The missile is clearly not the Kh-32. Su-30SM / MKI can't even carry Onyx / BrahMos, the Indians made a light version specially. Maybe ours decided to hang BramMos-A?
And at the expense of Bars ... Maybe they finally screwed AFAR to it?

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: bars1

especially the Indians did a light version.

With reinforced airframe for KR suspension

Quote: bars1

Maybe ours decided to hang BramMos-A?

Ours can only screw Onyx.

Quote: bars1

Maybe they finally screwed AFAR to it?

Hope dies last...

[Lozovik]

Experts are breaking through another bottom

[Hexenmeister]

for the use of new ammunition on the Su-30SM, the N011M Bars radar will be modified, the computer system will be updated and onboard defense complex.

Maybe it will be an anti-radar missile, since the defense complex is being updated?