Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation from "United Russia" called the presidential campaign in Belarus rigged

Russia is commenting on the results of Alexander Lukashenko in the presidential elections in Belarus. It should be reminded that on the eve of the Belarusian CEC announced Lukashenka's result is more than 80 percent of the vote. Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Ilham Aliyev, Emomali Rahmon, Shavkat Mirziyoyev and some other heads of state congratulated him on his victory in the elections.

Meanwhile, the State Duma of the Russian Federation spoke about Lukashenko's victory as a falsification. This statement, in particular, was made by the first deputy chairman of the Duma committee for CIS affairs, Konstantin Zatulin. It is noteworthy that Zatulin is a member of the United Russia faction.

In the interview Gazeta.ru The State Duma deputy noted that the Belarusian presidential campaign was accompanied by falsification and misinformation.

Konstantin Zatulin:

In such an atmosphere, talking about how much Lukashenka actually scored is like guessing on the coffee grounds. Obviously there weren't that many.

Zatulin called the statements of the Central Election Commission of the Republic of Bashkortostan about 40% of those who voted ahead of schedule "also a swindle", and the final results "not inspiring confidence."

Konstantin Zatulin:

Someone said that Lukashenka won the elections but lost the country.

At the same time, the representative of "United Russia" called the policy of Alexander Lukashenko selfish, and Lukashenko himself - "imposing himself on Belarus."

Another Russian deputy, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, even stated that Lukashenka expects to flee the country "this or next year." The leader of the Liberal Democratic Party called the current situation in the Republic of Belarus "the agony of the regime."

Such statements by well-known deputies of the State Duma of Russia may well be considered a landmark phenomenon. And the official Minsk will hardly react to these statements.

Comments

[Cartalon]

Pot calls the kettle black

[Sergey_G_M]

Never mind, the article is provocative and distorts the facts.

Meanwhile, the State Duma of the Russian Federation spoke about Lukashenko's victory as a falsification.

In an interview with Gazeta.ru, the deputy ...

So in the State Duma at the meeting, or did the deputy speak with the article?

Article title:

Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation from "United Russia" called the presidential campaign in Belarus rigged

So the deputy did not speak.

The newspaper is frankly yellow, and Zhirinovsky is already constantly carrying all sorts of garbage and no one takes him seriously for a long time.

[Stas157]

The statement of the first deputy chairman of the State Duma committee on CIS affairs is a strong signal, first of all, for Lukashenka himself. At such posts, the gag is not spanked, but a consolidated opinion is expressed. Apparently he is considered a downed pilot, whose flight caused the Kremlin's disapproval.

[Stas157]

The Kremlin's failed policy has led to a dead end. Lukashenka is absolutely not satisfied, but there is no one else to bet on. There are no pro-Russian figures in the Belarusian political field. To support Lukashenka means giving back in disagreements, not supporting - even worse.

[Tatyana]

Such statements by the well-known deputies of the State Duma of Russia Zatulin and Zhirinovsky) can be considered a landmark phenomenon. And the official Minsk will hardly react to these statements.

Both Russian deputies would be silent!
It is not clear why they now needed to add fuel to the fire in the current situation regarding the election of Lukashenko to Belarus!

[vlad106]

Quote: Tatiana

Such statements by the well-known deputies of the State Duma of Russia Zatulin and Zhirinovsky) can be considered a landmark phenomenon. And the official Minsk will hardly react to these statements.

Both Russian deputies would be silent!
It is not clear why they now needed to add fuel to the fire in the current situation regarding the election of Lukashenko to Belarus!

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Konstantin Zatulin:

Someone said that Lukashenka won the elections but lost the country.

At the same time, the representative of "United Russia" called the policy of Alexander Lukashenko selfish, and Lukashenko himself - "imposing himself on Belarus"
ZATULLIN HAS TRAINING IN THE US ALSO? Is he really a citizen of Russia?

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

"Absolutely not satisfied with Lukashenka." Than? Whom? It’s probably not ours to accuse him of some kind of “undemocraticism” - Russia is “ahead” in this respect by a million kilometers. All that remains is an independent economic policy, persistence in not surrendering the best sectors of the saved economy to our oligarchs who have destroyed everything at home, who have been burying themselves for many years on someone else's loaf. And the desire to at least in some way coincide with the West, perhaps, will soften, remove some of the sanctions, will allow you to return to the Mediterranean villas.

[mace]

Why did you decide that "absolutely does not suit you"? Give at least one really supported argument.

[Stas157]

You don't have to go far for examples. Please look through our numerous, manual media, which, if written, are only at the command from above. How Lukashenka has not been rinsed lately! The zombie box is the same picture. Lukashenka's own rhetoric is not inferior to this. There is mutual "love". Up to the point that Belarus began to buy oil from the United States and Azerbaijan.

[mace]

Lovely scolding - only amuse.
Now it is not dirt that needs to be poured on Father, but to help the brotherly people get rid of the Maidan infection.

[Shurik70]

What do the sofa experts say - do not care (I myself am sure of falsifications, both in Russia and in Belarus)
But a deputy, especially a high-ranking one, is already an official. And his statement is quite official.
This bastard HAS NO RIGHT make such PERSONAL statements. Especially after Putin officially congratulated Lukashenka on his victory. And the statement is definitely personal, after Putin's congratulations.

[New Year day]

Quote: Shurik70

Putin officially congratulated Lukashenka on his victory

So he and Yanukovych once congratulated ... in vain

[Piramidon]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Shurik70

Putin officially congratulated Lukashenka on his victory

So he and Yanukovych once congratulated ... in vain

Yanukovych came in handy. He used this "greeting card" as a pass when escaping to Rostov.

[New Year day]

Quote: Piramidon

He used this "greeting card" as a pass when escaping to Rostov

This is yes. Only Luka was the first to congratulate Comrade Xi. Does this mean the change of Rostov to Beijing

[Piramidon]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Piramidon

He used this "greeting card" as a pass when escaping to Rostov

This is yes. Only Luka was the first to congratulate Comrade Xi. Does this mean the change of Rostov to Beijing

Well, Old Man will have several "passes" to choose from. But you can get to Bryansk or Smolensk much faster than to Beijing.

[thrust]

and Pin congratulated .... always not in vain :)

[Kisa]

so why did Vova congratulate him? there in the Kremlin, too, opinions diverged? the cockroach only perked up that his Putin supported no one else to lean on (even if it becomes completely tame).
right now, the whole bloody week will be and the mustachioed carte blanche will need ... why was there any hope?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: kitty

the whole bloody week will be

What evil and stupid children ...

[tsvetkov1274]

Nothing will happen anymore ..
Your Tikhonovskaya left for Latvia

[mace]

They give you some boring and primitive training manuals there in Warsaw or Vilnius.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stas157

The statement of the first deputy chairman of the State Duma committee on CIS affairs is a strong signal, first of all, for Lukashenka himself.

This is an unofficial statement (you still need to read WHAT he really said) in an opposition newspaper, not in the Duma.
Statement

Quote: Stas157

At such posts, the gag is not spanked, but a consolidated opinion is expressed.

Consolidated opinion is an official statement of the President of Russia with congratulations on his election, and not a newspaper scribble of an insignificant deputy chairman of the committee on CIS affairs,

[vlad106]

Lukashenka is a man! does everything right

[Sergey V.]

Falsify elections, seize power by unconstitutional means, is this true in your opinion?

[akunin]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

The newspaper is frankly yellow, and Zhirinovsky is already constantly carrying all kinds of garbage and no one takes him seriously for a long time

the first presidential elections in Russia, the city of Perm, Zherinovsky's speech on the square near the VDNKh of the Perm Territory (then the region, the people came three times more than the previous speaker Yeltsin): "Perm, if you vote for me, I will make a direct flight Perm-Havana, you will have a rest on the cube "laughter and thunderous prolonged applause.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

The newspaper is frankly yellow,

It doesn't matter what kind of rag. Neither Zatulin nor Zhirik had the right to express "their opinion". We are with you, we can, they are not. Drive both out of the Duma. They publicly contradict the president. They can't do it publicly. At a closed "meeting-meeting" it is possible and necessary.

[Sergey_G_M]

There is no such law. An official or a military man can be fired, there is no deputy, they are damn people's choices. You can draw conclusions about the deputy and expel from the party, but he will remain a deputy until the end of the term. With Zhirik - questions to his voters.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

There is no such law. An official or military man can be fired,

I didn’t say dismiss, I said drive! After all, you can make it so that they themselves "resign." Damn, and he treated Zatulin with respect.

[Boris55]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

There is no such law.

There is such a law - regular elections to the State Duma. No one will vote for him and will not be in the Duma. Or, again, will we lead to him: "Each woman has a man, each man has half a liter"?

[New Year day]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Neither Zatulin nor Zhirik had the right to express "their opinion"

"In mine you must not dare have your own judgment"
Nothing in Russia has changed since the time of Griboyedov

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Silvestr

"In mine you must not dare have your own judgment"
Nothing in Russia has changed since the time of Griboyedov

Have you deliberately distorted the meaning of my words? What for?

[New Year day]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Have you deliberately distorted the meaning of my words? What for?

Then what can and should be said. If everyone is silent, then this is a herd. Or is it impossible to deviate from the opinion of the leader?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Silvestr

Then what can and should be said.

A state official has no right to PUBLIC express a point of view different from his patron. At a CLOSED meeting - is obliged to make the right decision. But when the decision was made, the patron congratulated Luka, the official should keep his opinion to himself.
Do you disagree with this?

[New Year day]

They are not officials, they are deputies. This is the point

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Silvestr

They are not officials, they are deputies. This is the point

Well, if they are only deputies, then in matters of international politics, they must adhere to the opinion of the president. I emphasize once again - publicly.
On these issues, they can contradict the president only with the consolidated opinion of the entire Duma. But again. not publicly.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Sergey_G_M

The newspaper is frankly yellow,

It doesn't matter what kind of rag. Neither Zatulin nor Zhirik had the right to express "their opinion". We are with you, we can, they are not. Drive both out of the Duma. They publicly contradict the president. They can't do it publicly. At a closed "meeting-meeting" it is possible and necessary.

Do you really think that these persons would have vyaknul without sanction from above ?! It is clear that the Russian leadership has drawn conclusions from the Ukrainian events and is now playing "in the dark" in Belarus.

[vik669]

Zhirinovsky already constantly carries all sorts of garbage and no one takes him seriously for a long time - old age is not a joy and an appropriate attitude, so ...!

[Kisa]

Zhirik thoroughly tarnished his reputation in the story with Khabara, threatened to withdraw the faction, but gave the back ...
now again decided to hyip on a hot topic. here the cockroach really has an unpredictable future

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

The newspaper is frankly yellow

And with a rainbow tint.

[Interlocutor]

Never mind, the article is provocative and distorts the facts.

Regular article - pumping

[Tank hard]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

Never mind, the article is provocative and distorts the facts.

Yah?
Now we look closely and draw conclusions if there is an opportunity to think.
Perhaps this is just the beginning:

[mace]

Why did you bring this here at all? Now you need to do disinfection on the entire site.

[Sergey V.]

With the resumption of the Internet, more and more audio and video materials appear on the topic of "fair" vote counting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDzRPmEb7p0&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgkDrVj1qIo&t=695s

[Civil]

Still, just in case, so that it doesn't work out like in Ukraine:
1. Top officials recognize elections.
2. The second persons, just in case, spoke for the other side.

Whoever did not pick up, you can always say - "we were for you." Well, for the internal public, so as not to seem completely fascists.

[New Year day]

Quote: Civil

Still, just in case, so that it doesn't work out like in Ukraine:
1. Top officials recognize elections.
2. The second persons, just in case, spoke for the other side.

Eggs in different baskets
So one person carries both baskets and in one hand

[vik669]

It is better to keep quiet and seem like a fool than to open your mouth and finally dispel doubts.

[smel]

In fact of the matter. You can hum as much as you like, not paying attention to the beam in your own eye. But the corps of deputies in our country is very peculiar both in the Duma and in the Federation Council. Many of the deputies are casual people both in politics and in the legislature. Their statements not only do not arouse interest and respect, but sometimes one feels fear for their own fate and the fate of their loved ones

[businessv]

Quote: Cartalon

Pot calls the kettle black

Well, ours, too, did not remain silent, she has incontinence!

[Pessimist22]

Strengthens fraternal relations on both sides.

[Deniska999]

Ah, scoundrel, he accused the brotherly leader.

[Sahalinets]

Yea Yea. Well, only EP honestly wins ...

[BARKAS]

Is the falsification forged? If the popular vote is against everyone, the candidate should probably come first.

[askort154]

I can believe in everything, but not in 40% of those who previously voted. Where, almost half of the country, was "in a hurry" - having voted five days before the elections?

[Free wind]

Approximately 54% voted, as they say. 40% of the number of voters is 10% of the number of voters. What's wrong?

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Free Wind

Approximately 54% voted, as they say. 40% of the number of voters is 10% of the number of voters. What's wrong?

No, that's right Numbers, they are ... numbers

[syndicalist]

What 10%? Did you go through arithmetic in general in elementary school?

[Free wind]

According to various sources, from 30 to 40%, and not exactly 40%. Again, from those who voted, not from the voter list, Well, 15-20% would be more correct, this does not change the essence, I just answered the respected commentator.

[vik669]

According to various sources, from 30 to 40%, and not exactly 40% -
It was Sunday afternoon - and I was sweating, I was climbing out of my skin, -
But the major was much in mathematics:
He added something there, then multiplied, summed up -
And said that ...!?

[mdsr]

Quote: Free Wind

According to various sources, from 30 to 40%, and not exactly 40%.

What are the different sources? The CEC of Belarus announced on the evening of the 8th that 41,7% of voters voted early... Taking into account that the total turnout, taking into account the voting on the 9th, was 84%, then the percentage of those who voted early out of the total number of voters is 49%. Deuce to you for arithmetic

[Crimean partisan 1974]

41,7% of voters voted early. ..... stop messing around with numbers. there is no difference either ahead of schedule or not ahead of schedule ..... a person (citizen) comes to any site. presents his passport, he is given a bulletin. in addition to members of the election committee, there are observers of all candidates at the polling station who are obliged to keep track of what's going on. and in the end they sign the protocol, if something seemed wrong, then they send the scribble to the candidate's headquarters. , so if the final protocol does not contain a signature from some candidate ... it means that he was not there at all, or there were still serious violations at the precinct, but there were no serious violations ... that's all ... femite .. ... let the losers ask their observers about their fears ... chtol feed them in vain

[Harry cuper]

there is no difference either ahead of schedule or not ahead of schedule.

Do you really think so, it makes no difference or on duty? And, by the way, you should tighten up the grammar of your native language. Or is he not native?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

And, by the way, would you like to tighten up the grammar of your native language ... and we are here on VO on dictation in Russian? .... it is important to convey the idea ... benches in uniform. so we can
Do you really think so, it makes no difference or on duty? .... at all polling stations along the line of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, posts are posted ... how many times I was in these elections, I don’t remember ... but I don’t think, but I know how and what was done there ... read my post above again,
the only thing I do not know. in the Republic of Belarus there is such a feature as absentee ballots, here you can muddy it. but not much

[Harry cuper]

I'm from school in uniform

- as I put on my sword belt, I grow dumb and dull. It is foolish to boast of epaulettes if you have not mastered the grammar of your native language. It's not worth talking about punctuation - it's definitely not for you. Mitrofanushka

[Crimean partisan 1974]

It's not worth talking about punctuation - it's definitely not for you. Mitrofanushka .... graphomaniacs cannot understand this. graphomaniacs are dull in life

[Andrey Vasilievich]

Quote: askort154

I can believe in everything, but not in 40% of those who previously voted. Where, almost half of the country, was "in a hurry" - having voted five days before the elections?

And where was half of the country in a hurry when they voted for a change in the constitution? My relatives in Crimea also voted a couple of days before election day.

[New Year day]

Quote: Andrey Vasilievich

in Crimea, they also voted for a couple of days

And they came to my house and neighbors' house - just vote

[Olezhek]

I can believe in everything, just not in 40% of those who previously voted. This is where, almost half of the country, "was in a hurry" - having voted five days before the elections

This is typical Sasha's mess
But ... went over - because the excitement

[New Year day]

Quote: askort154

I can believe in everything, but not in 40% of those who previously voted

[barin]

It is surprising, because similar results of voting on the "Amendments" did not raise questions for this deputy.

[ZhorikVartanov]

There was NO falsification, he did not even count the votes, but simply drew himself 80% !!!

[syndicalist]

Exactly! That in Belarus, that in the Russian Federation it is pointless to talk about falsifications. This is no longer an election or even a vote. Only a certain technological ritual of announcing the established result.

[rocket757]

The determining factor will now be, not who is there, what is there, cheated, but the fact that he holds this power firmly in his hands.
There are no real mass demonstrations and will never be.

[Zeev zeev]

Actually, the performances tonight were much more massive than yesterday. And not only in Minsk, but throughout the whole COUNTRY.

[rocket757]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Actually, the performances tonight were much more massive than yesterday. And not only in Minsk, but throughout the whole COUNTRY.

More massive than before, that's for sure ... the question is - WHAT is the result?
We will not carry out a lesson in political literacy, there is a truncated in the textbooks, the main thing is that the one who has power is not going to give it up and ... let's look at the final result.
Note, I do not drown for Lukashenka and in general I think that the affairs there, this is the business of the citizens of that particular country ... for me this is the only way and I advise others the same.
If only for the citizens, the people of Belarus, it was as it should be.
And we ... we still have to deal with our affairs and understand, and then ... never teach anyone !!! it will be right.

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

, is not going to give it away and ... let's look at the final result.

Before the first blood, Yanukovych also thought so. We'll see

[rocket757]

Welcome
I won't be able to compare the one who just came / who came for a while, not create, keep, but enrich himself with his accomplices ... with the one who created from the very beginning, kept, cherished and cherished, i.e. in its own way, of course.
Not both angels, but one is such a large, strong, cunning household ... and the other, as he was a petty thief, remained such, forever.
In general, both are not e e, but in different ways.

[New Year day]

Good afternoon! everything is just beginning, alas. Both are not ours, but nothing can be done.
Note that there is not a single rally in Belarus in support of Lukashenka. So it was during the Maidan, people did not come out to defend their "beloved". In several cities, the police actually refused to participate in the crackdown, some TECs handed over their protocols to Lukashenka's opponents with numbers that were not in favor of Lukashenka. Then we watch and listen. Lukashenka, if he retained his post, then not for long

[rocket757]

The outside view is very subjective.
I have no sympathy for the dad, but once again make sure that the "power of the street" is a destructive factor, somehow I do not want to.
It will be, what will be ... the truth is one, the people must decide for themselves what is best for them.
Yes, even more important ... SELF-DECEIVING, at any level it is bad, but at a very high level, it is DEstructive!

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

"street power" is a destructive factor, you don't want to.

Without a doubt! Therefore, it is impossible to bring "to the street"!

[rocket757]

Quote: Silvestr

it is impossible to bring "to the street"!

Not herself, not herself, that's for sure!
It is unlikely that there is one most, the most important reason for the protests .... but this is already a topic for a long analysis, although you can take a textbook and find there explanations for all the events that take place. In fact, nothing new is happening.

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

In fact, nothing new is happening.

Alas, yes! And the stronger the confrontation, the greater the chances of bloodshed, and after that only confrontation

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

Which Center are you monitoring from? in order to be able and the right to draw conclusions: more, less ... The manipulation of the media out of a fly has long been learned to make an elephant, and if it is good, and even in currency, they pay, they are capable of miracles.

[Olezhek]

There are no real mass demonstrations and will never be.

Dreams Dreams...

https://charter97.org/

Everything is detailed there, with photos and videos.
Lukashists had short arms to block
Massive protests all over Belarus

[rocket757]

Quote: Olezhek

Dreams Dreams...

A statement of fact and a few predictions .... the maximum that we can do, FROM THE SIDE !!

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

what can we do, FROM THE SIDE !!

Do not interfere, because Putin can only help OMON

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

There are no real mass demonstrations and will never be.

What can you say about today's nationwide strike?

[rocket757]

Quote: Silvestr

What can you say about today's nationwide strike?

Is she already coming? Is it really nationwide?
By the way, and under what slogans does it go, if it goes .... all the same, a strike is an ECONOMIC phenomenon! although, with us, them, politics creeps through everywhere ...
Let's see, the main thing is the end result!
So, by the way, I'm not a prophet ... I won't even place bets, because I see everything from the outside, not from the inside, so everything is very rough.
As for me, if a large part of the inhabitants of Belarus decides what to be like this, and not that way, it will be so.
AND EVERYTHING IS THIS, what is happening there really?

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

Is she already coming?

So far, only Zhodino, start time 12-00

Quote: rocket757

AND EVERYTHING IS THIS, what is happening there really?

The struggle for power in the ideal, but in this case the struggle against.
Tikhanovskaya, according to the TEC protocols, gained 70%, but she absolutely does not want to be president, her husband needs to be pulled out of prison. Her message is one - in 3-4 months there will be fair presidential elections

[rocket757]

Quote: Silvestr

Tikhanovskaya, according to the TEC protocols, gained 70%,

Now we can't wait for the truth, FROM ANY SIDE.
There will already be a big deception .... let's see how it goes. The supposed mass character of protests against the results announced by the official authorities is a more real indicator of opposition in society !!! Now only the facts, the calculations are REAL, who and for whom. This, one might say, is a direct expression of the will of citizens.

[Interlocutor]

What can you say about today's nationwide strike?

Let's say tomorrow - it has not yet taken place ...

[BISMARCK94]

And apparently the very minority is fighting with riot police on the streets?)

[dvina71]

Apparently on the Maidan "majority" fought in Berkut ..

[Tank jacket]

Zatulin and Zhirinovsky dream of the Maidan in the Republic of Belarus, and hence in the Russian Federation. Both are traitors.

[Deniska999]

By approving the riots in the United States, users of the Military Review thereby approve of the riots in Russia. We are all traitors here)

[Tank jacket]

The riots in the USA, as elsewhere, are being arranged by the financial international with the ideology of liberalism, Soros, the Clintonoids. How can this be maintained?

[Olezhek]

The riots in the USA, as elsewhere, are being arranged by the financial international with the ideology of liberalism, Soros, the Clintonoids. How can this be maintained?

And where were you so smart during the Maidan in Kiev?

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Our deputies have long become a brand (trademark) of large corporations that, since the collapse of the USSR, have dreamed of "taking over" competitive enterprises in Belarus. Maybe this is good for the integration of Russia - Belarus, but the reality is that having received something, our "comrades, effective managers" immediately sell these enterprises under the guise of attracting foreign investment to foreigners, who in 90 cases out of 100 these enterprises will liquidate - removing a competitor ... Lukashenka understands this and does not allow this to be done, and therefore "rolls over" are coming to him both from the West and from Russia. Well, as for Zhirinovsky, he, like a real showman, does not perform for free, even at "charity concerts" at the State Duma of the Russian Federation .... The trouble is, this is my personal opinion, if you remove Lukashenoko now, then "order" European and American bearers of democracy will be installed there, not pro-Russian "successful managers" as a result we will get a second Ukraine. The most advantageous for Russia to "freeze the situation" is that Lukoshenko would be under the peaceful pressure of the "opposition of pro-Western democrats" who would not allow him to believe that in the West someone suddenly "fell in love" with him and carefully persuade him to transfer power to a like-minded person.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

The most advantageous for Russia to "freeze the situation" is for Lukoshenko to be under the peaceful pressure of the "opposition of pro-Western democrats"

It does not depend on us, since our government does not see its people, and even more so - Belarusians. "Soft power" is completely absent

[1536]

In truth, "silence is gold."

[Olezhek]

It's so easy to get into the rich
It's so easy to get into the first place,
It's so easy to get into - executioners:
Shut up, shut up, shut up! ..

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

It's even easier to hit the parrots
repeating words after other.

[rotmistr60]

official Minsk is unlikely to react to these statements

It is clear that he will react and again loudly with recriminations, which we listened to during the last days before the elections. By the way, K. Zatulin always has a clear, verified opinion on the events both in Belarus and in Ukraine. This deputy cannot be accused of idolatry and sycophancy. It looks like after the recent events with the detention boiling so that all diplomacy aside. I do not comment on Zhirinovsky, because everything is clear.

[7,62x54]

It would be better if these so-called politicians comment on the situation inside Russia.

[Qwertyarion]

Quote: 7,62x54

It would be better if these so-called politicians comment on the situation inside Russia.

There is no team, so you can't.

[Qwertyarion]

The deputy cannot have his own opinion ... especially from the United Russia.

[Gardamir]

Protester Navalny is bad - protesters in Minsk are good.
Let's keep quiet about the demonstrations in Khabarovsk - but about the protests in a foreign country from morning to evening.
Why are you happy? “Communist” Lukashenka will leave, Belarusian yaroshi and Yatsenyuk poroshenka will come. Or do you hope that your Sechins, Millers, Rottenbergs will also grab pieces there.?

[Olezhek]

"Communist" Lukashenko will leave, Belarusian yaroshi and Yatsenyuk poroshenko will come.

There is nothing to be happy about, but Lukashenko is not our friend and has never been one
Boeing with a family, if he sent anything to Turetchin to comrade Erdogan.

[Gardamir]

to Turetchina

So Erdogan, partner you know who. When our plane was shot down in Turkey and on TV they hung noodles "pomdoramine", tomatoes produced in Turkey were lying quietly on the shelves, then they were actually copied to Azerbaijan at the last moment, but the zucchini were still Turkish.
So it is important to look into the essence of things, and they know how to tell stories to the people.

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

Where did you get it "," Olezhek "?

[Ingvar 72]

Will not refer, he is a rumor collector. And yesterdays.
It is not the first year that he has been writing libels on the Belarusian topic, stubbornly ignoring the worse state in our country. Looks like he has something personal to Belarusians.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vladimir Bogatyrev

Where did you get it "," Olezhek "?

About Lukashenka's plane and Istanbul? - Yes, I read

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Olezhek

but Lukashenka is not our friend and has never been

and who was our friend then?

[Interlocutor]

Boeing with a family, if he sent anything to Turetchin to comrade Erdogan.

Do not throw in unverified information.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Gardamir

"Communist" Lukashenko will leave,

He is by no means a communist.

[Gardamir]

Well, so I am in quotes. Zyuganov is not a communist either.

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: Gardamir

Or do you hope that your Sechins, Millers, Rottenbergs will also grab pieces there.?

Well, so far only Belarus is grabbing pieces of our oil, and the money these oligarchs earn on the sale of raw materials

[Nikolaevich I]

Morning began at the Old Man's collective farm ... as usual! Everything is cancer ... they dig a bulb in the field

!

[Boris55]

Meanwhile, the State Duma of the Russian Federation spoke about Lukashenka's victory as a falsification

Here they licked the West so they licked it - right up to the tonsils ... And you say Putin is the king ... Yes, it’s just a miracle that he’s doing something for Russia.

But what else can we expect from our pro-Western thought?
Still, they remember this picture of Repin - they stood up:

[Cyril G ...]

So they licked the West so they licked it - up to the tonsils ...

Have you already forgotten about the kilotons of a well-known substance that Lukashenka dumped on Russia the other day?

[Boris55]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Have you already forgotten about the kilotons of a well-known substance that Lukashenka dumped on Russia the other day?

No, I haven't forgotten. Lukashenka always crap, crap and will crap Russia. Lukashenko and these soups hate Russia and Russians.

As for Lukashenka, for all his anti-Russianness, this is the best option for us. He, with his re-election, gives us a break, time to deal with his traitors.

On the eve of Putin's call to Lukashenko, or vice versa, our RF Ministry of Defense reminded the world that we are ready to use nuclear weapons. "We do not need a World where there is no Russia." And lo and behold, Lukashenka turned on the reverse gear and we are again the elder brother ...

The arrest of our 33 people and his statement about the possibility of their transfer to the SBU, to call into question the further participation in the Minsk agreements of representatives of the LPNR, who are on the list of "Peacemaker" of Ukraine. This is his step towards discrediting and destroying the Minsk agreements in line with the desire of Kiev and the West as a whole.

As for "our" deputies, their statement should be understood in such a way that they regret that Belarus did not become the second Ukraine, spoiling Russia and worsening the welfare of our citizens by the fact that then we will be forced to stop this threat, the threat of accommodation NATO bases near Smolensk.

[svp67]

This statement, in particular, was made by the first deputy chairman of the Duma committee for CIS affairs, Konstantin Zatulin. It is noteworthy that Zatulin is a member of the United Russia faction.

Well, at least the faces of those who oppose Lukashenka in our country become clear

[New Year day]

Quote: svp67

who is against Lukashenka in our country

Our media, "box", those who, 4 days ago, worked as a sewer in the case of "Wagnerians and Lukashenka" and many other

[strelokmira]

Well, as there were 33 detainees, it is clear that the Maidan is being prepared in Belarus, now he went

[Pandiurin]

Quote: strelokmira

Well, as there were 33 detainees, it is clear that the Maidan is being prepared in Belarus, now he went

This was known before
Luca just felt that he would be pressed by the West. Scared. And by virtue of his multi-vector logic, everything is simple with him, you have to keep to the middle. And how the middle is determined, if from one side there are many pendals flying in, then you need to do more curtsies in that direction and smile.
I felt the impending run over (Maidan) and decided to demonstrate that I was closer to the west than to Russia. He joined the full-length provocation slipped into his hands.

Such behavior (with deflections) only encourages others, the more you kick the Bow, the more agreeable he is. These statements of the deputies are in the right direction. Lukashenka was de facto recognized as president (they will work with him officially) and they immediately gave him pendals. Who is to blame that he needs it for some kind of adequacy. Yes, not enough by the way. It would be necessary more, stronger and more diverse ...

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

I would ask Zatulin (he, as an approximate, should know) WHAT was promised to our people for helping to remove Lukashenka and turning Belarus into a second Ukraine - to give some branches of the economy to the oligarchs on the cheap? For so many years they will bury themselves on the surviving there, and even augmented Soviet legacy

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Vladimir Bogatyrev

For so many years they will bury themselves on the surviving there, and even augmented Soviet legacy

Nobody there will covet anything. Not really. There are exceptions - solely thanks to our own orders. It's just ridiculous about multiplying. \
Lukashenka allowed himself to blackmail about the special transporters of the Strategic Missile Forces - this is the sore point of our trade. Russia offered to buy out MZKT - which would naturally not have gone anywhere geographically.

[iouris]

Quote: Vladimir Bogatyrev

WHAT was promised to our people for helping to remove Lukashenka

Non-punishment is a form of reward. Maybe not for "help", but just quietly asked to stand on the sidelines, go on vacation, get sick, otherwise ...

[tank64rus]

He made a mistake in the country, he needs to be a deputy in the United States, where these "deputies" have a home.

[mag nit]

And 120% of those voting for Putin is a pattern.

[Interlocutor]

And 120% of those voting for Putin is a pattern.

Where did the information come from?
Share the link ...

[Livonetc]

How much rope do not curl
all one end will be.
The question is when.
And who will replace.
And these figures have the right to say what they think is right.
Do not like do not vote.
And there is no need to push confident tirades about falsifications, in particular in Russia.
My daughter has repeatedly worked in the elections with visits to people who cannot visit the polling stations.
So they are practically shit for everything and everyone.
Most people do not want change.
At least those who have life experience.
Who is the son of difficult mistakes.
Young people can protest and even riot.
She later also moved to the Conservative camp.
Fighting in protests, in the over-age category, continue, as a rule, either failed people or paid people.
Everyone needs to do business and enjoy the rights provided in society.
The revolution is certainly romantic.
You can see yourself as Che Guevara.
Only after, as a rule, it is painfully bitter for everyone.
Georgia and Ukraine are vivid confirmation of this.

[New Year day]

Quote: Boris55

And you say Putin is the king ... Yes, stacked boyars are just a miracle

And who keeps them and directs them? Just plays two hands

[Interlocutor]

And who keeps them and directs them? Just plays two hands

So turn on the TV. He already gives you a daily report of his work with the government, but you don't care. It is a pity that he does not have three hands to lead. Normal manual control of the country, as it should be.
But the question is - is it always possible to reach all corners of the country.

[New Year day]

Quote: Interlocutor

He already gives you a daily report of his work with the government, but you don't care.

I prefer to evaluate reports of government work at the place of work and on the Security Council card.
I do not look at the box due to the complete discrepancy between what was said and reality. Where in the box, for example, is infa about Shies and Khabarovsk?

[New Year day]

Quote: Interlocutor

Normal manual control of the country, as it should be.

Pens grow from one place! How did you get off the oil and gas needle in 20 years, how did it happen that in 20 years the number of self-sufficient regions decreased from 23 to 10?
How did it happen that a great and mighty country with countless reserves of EVERYTHING did not have enough money for pensions and treatment of children? Many can be enumerated ...

[Interlocutor]

Pens grow from one place!

And who do we have with handles from that place? We sound ...

[Moskal 55]

Well, everything is clear with Zhirik. But Zatulin was very unpleasantly surprised.

[vovan089]

It seems that Zatulin is adequate in sense, and acted as a highly paid agent of a super-tolerant Euro-democracy. Some speculations ...

[Roman123567]

Raven doesn’t peck out the crow ..

[Kostadinov]

This is how Russia loses its friends and allies. Then there is no need to accuse either Lukashenka or the people of Belarus of treason. We have already watched this scenario many times from the time of Gorbachev and Yeltsin to the present day.

[Alexey-74]

Ndaaa, as they say without comment ...........

[Archivist Vasya]

Comrades, what is happening now in Belarus and what happened there last night? Where is the material on VO? Other inform. publications write about riots ...

[iouris]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

what is happening now in Belarus and what happened there last night?

It is high time to know that what is shown on CNN is what "happens." Watch and find out.

[mace]

Everything is fine there, the "new president" of the Republic of Belarus left on an official visit to Lithuania (for good), the flock of sheep was dispersed, everyone is busy harvesting.

[cmax]

[/ quote] [/ quote] With such an understanding of the situation in Belarus, you yourself will soon wither Russia to bantustans. For three months of confrontation, people did not break a single shop window, not a single car, did not throw stones. They were waiting for the elections, and so the power imposed on them, one king decided that the state was me. Why was this circus to arrange elections. I would immediately write 80%. The elections ended at 20-00 and at 3 am the results were already announced. Nobody counted anything. Everything was already ready. So people took to the streets. Go to the telegram channels, see how people are beaten, they just grab them on the street. They beat cars, you drag drivers if Omon didn't like something. I have never seen anything like this in my 60 years. Center of Europe, 21st century. And the Dictator. Some kind of scribe. They began to beat the women, hard, with their feet. And if it were your wives, mothers, daughters, you would also be glad that Luka remained in power. I have always been personally for the Union with Russia, for the Russian language. Now he doubted.

[mace]

I have a question. What were the expectations of those who went out into the street? Tikhanovskaya's victory? Seriously? What's the difference with what margin the pro-Western opposition would have lost. Well, not 70, but 60, 50 percent. It would still be an objective defeat.
I watched the channels. I saw thugs provocateurs, some football fans, just stupid youngsters. Really aggressive, with stones, sticks, fireworks. The guys came for the hype. In Kiev, everything also began, and then ... Why adults climbed into this mess - I do not understand. There is work, education, medicine at the level, the cities are clean and beautiful, crime is low, borders are open ... what else do you want? What freedom?

[iouris]

Probably "falsified". And which of you is not without sin (go to the Tretyakov Gallery)? Another question: whose "son of a bitch" is this? Why have you been building a "union state" for so many children with such a bad person whom the entire world community has condemned? They gave him loans. They would overthrow him themselves, I would understand.

[frizzy]

Yes, he's cheap Luka, he fell for a provocation, and that's all. RAL.

[babylon]

It is better to sit in the place of our deputies and sniff in two holes

[babylon]

With such a policy of the oligarchs, we lost all the friends we only had, quarreled from all the neighbors who, in turn, began to seek salvation in the west, and there, as it turned out, it was no better
With such success, we ourselves can get lost if our power does not come to its senses

[Andrey.AN]

Yes, in our country, this deputy considered the voting on the Constitution to be clean, when 99% of the deputies - representatives of the people, voted for the Constitution, and only 50% of the people were clean, after a campaign that was not interrupted for an hour by supporters of novelty, even on voting days, when they rubbed in only what , which does not explain the opposite position, as before.

[Maks1995]

The PZhV deputy knows what he is talking about.
The experience is rich.

[cmax]

Quote: bulava

I have a question. What were the expectations of those who went out into the street? Tikhanovskaya's victory? Seriously? What's the difference with what margin the pro-Western opposition would have lost. Well, not 70, but 60, 50 percent. It would still be an objective defeat.
I watched the channels. I saw thugs provocateurs, some football fans, just stupid youngsters. Really aggressive, with stones, sticks, fireworks. The guys came for the hype. In Kiev, everything also began, and then ... Why adults climbed into this mess - I do not understand. There is work, education, medicine at the level, the cities are clean and beautiful, crime is low, borders are open ... what else do you want? What freedom?

Whoever told you that Tikhanovskaya lost, she won with a result of 80%. It's not even about Tikhonovskaya. This is how its interest was knocked out for the AHL
(https://news.tut.by/society/696465.html). You know that less than a week has passed since the end of the elections, some of the candidates filed a protest against the voting results, and all the ballots have already been disposed of with the wording .... to improve the environmental situation. Where are we driving, with such crushing support from the AHL, according to the Central Election Commission. Today, 13.08, the largest enterprises Belaz and Grodnoazot went on strike. Thousands of people are chanting ... go away. Is this popular support. You see lacquered Belarus, but we see the real one. Rudeness, arrogance of officials, lack of an honest judicial system, lies in the media, worsening living conditions.