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LDNR started talking about autumn draft

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The LDNR is once again discussing the possibility of announcing a military conscription. This important issue was raised by the deputy of the People's Council of the DPR Vladislav Brig, however, sources claim that the poll in the deputy's telegram channel appeared for a reason and that the people's militia is already seriously talking about the imminent conscription for military service. So, the blog "Lugansk Insider" writes:

“On the twentieth of July, the soldiers of the People's Militia of the LPR were read out a ceasefire order at the formation, where, among other things, they said that they should prepare to receive conscripts in the fall. Apparently, there was a similar action in the DPR. "

It is worth noting that such conversations have arisen more than once, but until now everything has stopped at the level of discussion. But who knows, maybe this time the military will move from words to deeds and in the republics will indeed announce a call. The LDNR has grown up young people who know firsthand what war is, knows who started it and is ready to defend their land.

Will they run - won't they run?


Frankly speaking, such a “school of life” would not hurt the youth in the republics, and the people's militia would be of use (at least to free the soldiers from internal service). However, the question is how young people themselves and their parents will respond to the call. Let's not talk about extremes (after all, if someone leaves for Ukraine in order to avoid conscription, it means that he has nothing to do in the LPNR from the outset. Even the most patriotic citizens will be very interested in whether the recruits will end up on the front line? And an even more important question: will they not end up on the front line with an order “not to respond to provocations” under Ukrainian artillery fire?

No less important is the following point: now the inhabitants of the LPR are actively receiving Russian citizenship. Will service in the people's militia become a reason for not then doing military service in Russia? Or will you first have to serve in the conditional Torez, and then another year already somewhere in the vast expanses of the Russian Federation? Isn't it wiser in this case to immediately go to serve in the Russian Federation?

How balanced and thoughtful is such a decision? Is this a conceptual change or a situational attempt to compensate for the lack of personnel? The Donetsk blogger Sniper-Poet, who is personally familiar with the hardships of service both in the ranks of the Russian army and in the DPR militia, believes that this is precisely the need to staff the people's militia.

“Large staff shortage? We will supplement the conscripts and send a "peermozhny" report on the completion of all staff units. Will the check come? Overnight, we collect a report from conscripts for transfer to contract service and submit, so that later these reports can be sent to the toilet for an indirect purpose ... This quite exists in one of the most powerful armies in the world (no irony), where the BTGR of motorized rifle regiments is filled only on paper for an annual check and the personnel of the contractors wander through the papers from unit to unit, depending on which direction will be checked today: tankmen, snipers or scouts ”,

- the blogger writes.

Easy to say!


Indeed, serious concerns are caused by the readiness of the Luhansk and Donetsk military to organize the process of passing military service in such a way that the first draft does not become the last. In the ranks of NM today, as a rule, there are adults motivated, if not by a desire to fight, then at least by dreams of a career or by the need for monetary allowance. Therefore, they more or less steadfastly withstand both the stupidity of the command and the hardships of a long stay at the range (there is such a tradition among the local leadership - to send soldiers to live at the range for weeks, or even months at any time of the year). But whether young people will tolerate all this, who, as an alternative, will at least leave for the Russian Federation - that is the question.

In addition, it is not entirely clear how the conscription is consistent with the letter of the Minsk agreements. There is no doubt that the Ukrainian side will arrange a form of hysteria about this (or even take it as a long-awaited argument for withdrawing from the agreements). Probably, if the call is still announced, it can be regarded as a signal for the end of the Minsk epic and (almost 100%) as preparation for a big war.

The first thing that needs to be clarified: are the talks about an imminent military conscription just the fantasies of the local "jackets" or is it a real directive from higher comrades? The fact that the issue was raised almost simultaneously in the LPR and the DPR may mean that it is not about a local initiative, but about a more global solution. We will continue to observe: very little is left until autumn.
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  1. Terenin
    Terenin 12 August 2020 15: 05 New
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    The fact that the issue was raised almost simultaneously in the LPR and the DPR may mean that it is not about a local initiative, but about a more global solution.

    Fine. This is another symptom of the emergence of an independent state.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 August 2020 15: 10 New
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      LDNR started talking about autumn draft

      The LDNR is once again discussing the possibility of announcing a military conscription.


      This is not the first or second time such conversations, but as a rule, earlier they arose as provocative stuffing of the Outskirts ...

      But if this is so, then in my family there is someone to be called to, I will not "otmazyvat" my son and will not shelter, but myself, "on the second round", I will probably also update the WB DNR ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 12 August 2020 15: 26 New
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        Will service in the people's militia become a reason for not then doing military service in Russia? Or you will first have to serve in the conditional Torez, and then another year somewhere in the vast expanses of the Russian Federation?


        Where, at the landfill (there is such yes ) or commandant's office belay ? And why so deep in the rear?

        Understand, what Torez named conditionally, but still,how and where will conscripts serve, as opposed to contract soldiers?
        The conscripts will replace the contract soldiers in the auxiliary units, while the "first line" will continue to be staffed with contract soldiers?
        1. Yegor Makhov
          20 October 2020 13: 17 New
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          As always, there are more questions than specifics. Yes. I would like to contact you.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 12 August 2020 15: 08 New
    +3
    Universities were reduced, but the draft was left ...
    Multi-port. ..
    What would the youth have nowhere to find a place for themselves?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 12 August 2020 15: 14 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Universities were reduced, but the draft was left ...

      Completely different goals and objectives.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 August 2020 17: 08 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Universities were reduced, but the draft was left ...
      Multi-port. ..
      What would the youth have nowhere to find a place for themselves?

      Leaderknowing that you invariably insist that "in Ukraine, not everything is so simple, because I read /or as an option/ dad told me so"...

      - Did you write the same about Banderia, conscription, reduction of the number of universities?

      Or do you need to write about the DPR / LPR in this vein, but not necessarily about nenka?

      Minister of Education and Science of Ukraine Anna Novosad announced a reduction in the number of universities in Ukraine. According to the head of the Ministry of Education, there are too many higher educational institutions in Ukraine, the "NM" correspondent reports.

      According to Anna Novosad, the ministry will have several tools to influence the optimization of higher education institutions. In particular, from January 1, a new principle of financing universities according to their performance indicators began to work.


      https://nashemisto.dp.ua/2020/01/20/v-minobrazovanija-anonsirovali-sokrashhenie-vuzov-chto-proishodit/ - Dnipro news, Okrainskoe publishing house, everything as you like yes
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 12 August 2020 17: 18 New
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        Well, I found out from you. And I also don't think this decision is smart.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 12 August 2020 17: 20 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Well, I found out from you. And I also don't think this decision is smart.

          But it is YOU (if my memory is not broken lol ) I just wrote once that:

          - NOR FIG you about the real situation on the outskirts, and even more so here - you DO NOT KNOW

          And on one propaganda slogan "She didn’t die"nor you,Leader, not Outskirts, you won't go far No. .
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 12 August 2020 18: 33 New
            +3
            But I've noticed what an INTERESY interlocutor you are ...
            I have a father in Ukraine, and acquaintances, and I visit the sites, but you know the WHOLE TRUTH.
            Moreover, completely negative. Whatever flashed - and you already have a plug in every barrel! They didn't write here about education in Ukraine, but you know ...
            And you quote me "early". I already forgot when I wrote that, and you quote me ...
            Are you not from the glorious Prigogine Guard?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 12 August 2020 18: 42 New
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              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              But I've noticed what an INTERESY interlocutor you are ...
              -------------------------------
              Are you not from the glorious Prigogine Guard?


              But just no, from the very thing that is ДНРovsky yes .
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Whatever flashed - and you already have a plug in every barrel! They didn't write here about education in Ukraine, but you know ...


              Efficiency is the key to efficiency.
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok 12 August 2020 22: 06 New
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              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              But I've noticed what an INTERESY interlocutor you are ...
              I have a father in Ukraine, and acquaintances, and I visit the sites, but you know the WHOLE TRUTH.
              Moreover, completely negative. Whatever flashed - and you already have a plug in every barrel! They didn't write here about education in Ukraine, but you know ...
              And you quote me "early". I already forgot when I wrote that, and you quote me ...
              Are you not from the glorious Prigogine Guard?

              He foolishly blurted out in 2014-2015, and now he cannot admit that it was stupid. It remains to post the "correct" comments. Otherwise, the psyche will not stand it.
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 12 August 2020 22: 15 New
                +1
                No ... Rather sent Cossacks. Too proffie in everything. And quotes, and materials on the mountain are mental, and no matter how you go, they are always present. As for me, it works in some "correct" command.
                And he hides behind a "republican" - our people are gullible. They'll regret it, then I'll throw in the pluses. He writes what they want to read wink
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 August 2020 15: 23 New
    0
    Just started talking ... about the call ... well, well ...
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 12 August 2020 15: 29 New
    +4
    Any state must ensure not only rights and freedom, but also the protection of the state system and its citizens. And there is nothing new in this!
    Article 52 (Constitution of the DPR)
    1. Defense of the Fatherland is the duty and obligation of a citizen of the Donetsk People's Republic.
    2. A citizen of the Donetsk People's Republic shall perform military service in accordance with the law.
    3. A citizen of the Donetsk People's Republic in the event that his beliefs or religion is contrary to military service, as well as in other cases established by law, has the right to replace it with an alternative civilian service.
    There will be a corresponding Law, and there will be military duty.
  • Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 12 August 2020 15: 31 New
    0
    If it burns out, it will be a landmark step towards real sovereignty! But what legal framework will they create? Or will they leave the Ukrainian one (lick the Chihara to the future owners) or spit, as on the laws about elections, and live with their own mind? And in 41, the graduates did not celebrate graduation at banquets ... And let the young people do business. In Lebanon, in Beirut, there is a misfortune, and young guys are rampaging in the streets, there would be no need to clean up the rubble themselves, but no - for this, the Russians from the Ministry of Emergencies came for free !!!
  • Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 12 August 2020 16: 16 New
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    ISIS on its territory also announced the appeal of the male population at one time. But sovereignty, as some here write, did not add to this.
    In general, it is simply dangerous, those who went voluntarily are ready to fight, and conscripts are absolutely not the fact that they will want to play this political farce for thanks. And it will turn out like with the Romanian units at Stalingrad, surrender or retreat without a fight.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 August 2020 17: 12 New
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      Quote: Fibrizio
      ISIS on its territory also announced the appeal of the male population at one time. But sovereignty, as some here write, did not add to this.

      Analogies, you have - fool
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 12 August 2020 22: 02 New
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    The article is about nothing. They did not "talk about the draft," but already called for the training camp.
  • ROMAN VYSOTSKY
    ROMAN VYSOTSKY 13 August 2020 00: 01 New
    -1
    A call is just as normal as a contract. Only before you release for military service, you need to learn. This means that it is necessary to create training centers in the buildings. But this is no longer easy. Very helpful though. And the infrastructure is needed and the material base and much more. And the regulatory framework, of course. Let's see how the idea with the appeal materializes.
  • Glenni
    Glenni 13 August 2020 07: 16 New
    +1
    Have you lost any shores? Whom are you going to call?