Kravchuk at the negotiations on Donbass "will mark the red lines, as he did in 1991 at the Belovezhskaya meeting"

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Leonid Kravchuk, who recently headed the Ukrainian office in the Trilateral Contact Group on the settlement of the conflict in Donbass, continues to actively give interviews to journalists. Without even visiting the region and not talking to the locals, Kravchuk tells what issues he will discuss and what he will not.

According to Mr. Kravchuk, who gave another interview to Ukrainian journalists, he does not intend to discuss issues that are "beyond the red line."



Kravchuk said that he himself intends to mark the "red lines" in the negotiation process, adding that he did the same in 1991 at the meeting, when the Belovezhskiy negotiations were going on in Viskuli on virtually the end of the existence of the USSR.

Kravchuk:

I will not discuss issues that relate to our life, the life of our nation. I will never sign a single document that relates to this: sovereignty, territorial integrity.

Kravchuk was asked what he would do if the other side raised such questions. According to the head of the Ukrainian mission in the Trilateral Contact Group, he will say that "the topic is closed, and there is nothing to talk about."

Interesting position. Why, then, in 1991, Mr. (and at that time still a "comrade") Kravchuk did not ask himself a question about the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Soviet Union, but hurried to Kiev to announce a "change"?
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    1. +37
      10 August 2020 08: 39
      This is that g. Nida that the Union plundered. Divided into parts.
      What to talk to him about?
      An aspen stake as a gift to him.
      1. +11
        10 August 2020 08: 49
        One of the ghouls that the Union was quietly torn apart. Is now proud of this. Well, he is that ... he has a comfortable old age. And his great-grandchildren too.
        1. +2
          10 August 2020 09: 00
          Quote: vkl.47
          his old age is comfortable, and his great-grandchildren too.

          He has been for many years. At the end of his life, thoughts about his personal role in the destruction of his own country will probably come to him. I don’t think we should envy him. Life is lived, but the result is negative. What satisfaction is there? He just doesn't talk about it out loud. recourse
          1. +2
            10 August 2020 10: 02
            Quote: Hagen
            He just doesn't talk about it out loud.

            This is if he has a Russian soul.
            If loot is a yardstick, then your arguments are useless for him.

            I think he consoles his ego with the fact that for centuries he will remain the creator of Ukraine.

            Someone else's soul is darkness.

            But the fact remains. He destroyed millions of families. Divided the people into parts.

            In my opinion - a ghoul.
          2. +1
            10 August 2020 18: 26
            Quote: Hagen
            At the end of his life, thoughts about his personal role in the destruction of his own country will probably come to him.

            It just needs to be sent diplomatically with its red lines. I think there are many people surrounded by Zelensky who will be happy to observe if this old nationalist is ignored in the negotiations.
            1. 0
              10 August 2020 18: 32
              Some time ago, Dmitry Kozak, deputy chief of staff of the Russian presidential administration, sent a letter to his colleagues in the Normandy Four, stating the ineffectiveness of negotiations in the format of political advisers. In principle, not only Kravchuk should be sent, but also the figurine sitting on the finger of the US ambassador to Ukraine, together with the ambassador ...
              1. 0
                11 August 2020 00: 15
                Quote: Hagen
                Dmitry Kozak sent a letter to his colleagues in the Normandy Four, stating that the negotiations were ineffective

                If in response, Ukraine puts up Kravchuk with red lines, then vis-a-vis him can send a diplomat like Girkin until the negotiations are taken more seriously.
          3. 0
            10 August 2020 19: 26
            At the end of his life, thoughts about his personal role in the destruction of his own country will probably come to him

            No actually. They consider the collapse of the Union to be an achievement. To this he appeals.
      2. +20
        10 August 2020 08: 53
        1. Russia will not allow the return of Donbass on the terms of Kiev.
        2. Kiev will not agree to Donbass on Russia's terms.
        3. All negotiations are meaningless and futile.
        1. +7
          10 August 2020 08: 59
          Quote: Civil
          3. All negotiations are meaningless and futile.

          And Kozak said so
          1. -6
            10 August 2020 10: 06
            Quote: Civil
            3. All negotiations are meaningless and futile.

            Quote: Lipchanin
            And Kozak said so


            And ???????

            Continue the war?

            Until the last Russian in these lands?

            Are you happy about this outcome?
            1. +4
              10 August 2020 10: 16
              Continue the war?

              Did the boltology, which is not the first time going at least a millimeter, stopped it?
              Until the last Russian in these lands?

              Where did I say that?
              Are you happy about this outcome?

              Well, no need to attribute your thoughts and desires to me !!!
              Where did you see my joy ????
            2. +3
              10 August 2020 11: 49
              Until the last Russian in these lands?

              Are you happy about this outcome?

              Bandera's people of Ukraine rejoiced at this, burning Russian people in Odessa.
              So the fighters of the LDNR will defend their homeland from the Bandera ghouls until everyone is buried in the ground.
      3. +8
        10 August 2020 08: 59
        Quote: For example
        An aspen stake as a gift to him.

        Oh, you don't know Kravchuk. He will make himself a pole for dancing and striptease from this stake.
        1. -6
          10 August 2020 10: 07
          Quote: Egoza
          Oh, you don't know Kravchuk ...

          Elena, do you know him?
          Lit together? wink laughing
          1. +4
            10 August 2020 10: 47
            Quote: For example
            Elena, do you know him?
            Lit together?

            Well not funny No. because - frankly rudeness.
            1. +2
              10 August 2020 12: 50
              Quote: Insurgent
              Well, not funny, because it is frankly rudeness.

              Yes, he lost something.
              He alone is in the "topic", everyone else does not understand everything
          2. +1
            10 August 2020 12: 52
            Quote: For example
            Quote: Egoza
            Oh, you don't know Kravchuk ...

            Elena, do you know him?
            Lit together? wink laughing

            Elena "Berkutu" wore food and warm clothes.
            And some at this time, I will not say the nickname, sat on the couch and made my khataskraya
      4. +1
        10 August 2020 13: 58
        Who would draw a red line around the neck of this "Kiev partner" ...? soldier
    2. +2
      10 August 2020 08: 49
      He is glad that in his old age they took him out of the "political box", brushed off the naphthalene and exhibited it to the public. So he flutters his tongue to the left and to the right. In a hurry, realizes that, most likely, for the last time.
      1. +5
        10 August 2020 09: 02
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        He is glad that in his old age they took him out of the "political box", brushed off the naphthalene and exhibited it to the public. So he flutters his tongue to the left and to the right. In a hurry, realizes that, most likely, for the last time.

        1. None of the Ukrainian politicians managed to "slip between the droplets." Already so dodged that he went down in history with this. So, "If not him, then who?"
        2. All additional earnings to retirement. Why not just chat?
      2. +10
        10 August 2020 09: 07
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        in old age they took it out of the "political box", dusted off the naphthalene and exposed it to the public

        Which, in turn, indicates that:

        a) - on the outskirts, in circles close to the current government, there are no persons able to negotiate taking into account the requirements of Donbass (we require, we do not ask, we asked until May 2014, but they did not listen to us, betting on the "cleanup").
        b) - the clowning of the "Minsk trial", especially considering the personality of Kravchuk, will not lead to anything ...

        As a result, the outskirts are generally not negotiable.
    3. +5
      10 August 2020 08: 50
      We can say that the negotiations ended before they even started.
    4. +2
      10 August 2020 08: 50
      Kravchuk at the negotiations on Donbass
      Another fool , a silly government. fool What to discuss?
    5. +1
      10 August 2020 08: 50
      This is such a categorical ragul that is needed in negotiations. Otherwise, Donbass will quickly return to the fold of the state.
      1. +3
        10 August 2020 09: 03
        Quote: 7,62x54
        This is such a categorical ragul that is needed in negotiations. Otherwise, Donbass will quickly return to the fold of the state.

        You are right, fools are always needed, they occasionally bring benefits without even knowing it.
      2. 0
        10 August 2020 19: 31
        This is such a categorical ragul that is needed in negotiations. Otherwise, Donbass will quickly return to the fold of the state.

        He is far from being so categorical, here Elena writes above about "between the droplets" He is just so nimble.
    6. +3
      10 August 2020 08: 54
      With such a negotiator, the further process is meaningless.
      1. +3
        10 August 2020 09: 03
        Quote: AleBors
        With such a negotiator, the further process is meaningless.

        Yes, it’s time to end the negotiations! You need to act!
    7. sav
      +7
      10 August 2020 08: 55
      He considered himself a "political heavyweight". Under Henry Kissinger mows lol
    8. -1
      10 August 2020 09: 01
      Without even visiting the region and not talking with the locals, Kravchuk tells what issues he will discuss and what he will not.

      Well, he certainly knows better from the mountain.
      Imagine himself as the ultimate truth
    9. 0
      10 August 2020 09: 01
      Interesting position. Why, then, in 1991, Mr. (and at that time still a "comrade") Kravchuk did not ask himself a question about the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Soviet Union, but hurried to Kiev to announce a "change"?
      And what would you like from the "good-natured lad".
    10. +5
      10 August 2020 09: 02
      Ours need to send Gorbachev there. There will be a circus.
      1. -1
        10 August 2020 09: 09
        I'm afraid he'll give a couple of our regions to Ukraine without batting an eye.
        1. +2
          10 August 2020 09: 13
          Quote: RUnnm
          I'm afraid he'll give a couple of our regions to Ukraine without batting an eye.


          Not. He's a wall-demolition expert. They will go with Kravchuk to break Yatsenyuk's wall.
          1. 0
            10 August 2020 09: 14
            Do you think they will be able to find this Cyclopean defensive structure? His Yaytsenyuk is probably only on paper to find and can ...
      2. 0
        10 August 2020 12: 15
        Zhirik or Grudinina)
    11. +1
      10 August 2020 09: 04
      Kravchuk said that he himself intends to mark the "red lines" in the negotiation process,

      Is he serious? Grandpa suffered, from the "awareness" of his own "significance" fool
    12. -1
      10 August 2020 09: 08
      Some kind of negotiations for the sake of negotiations. Both sides are well aware that there are no points of rapprochement, but we still give the Ukrainian side some PR on this topic. Why, for example, can we not say that we are ready for negotiations only on the basis of the implementation of each item of the "Shtanmayer formula", or to agree on documents for its implementation? I understand that Russia can be accused of not participating in the negotiations, but wouldn't it be more correct to initially prepare - a couple of rounds, according to the results, to record Ukraine's demands that go beyond Minsk, bring them to the UN, Pase, Germany , France and then openly, with an official explanation of the reasons not to withdraw, but to suspend participation until the draft documents are ready from the Ukrainian side ...
    13. 0
      10 August 2020 09: 46
      he himself intends to mark the "red lines" in the negotiation process
      The sign of fucking, loses memory, and there - "red lines". It's time to quit with empty chatter on "Minsk" and "Norman fours". He has already publicly stated that Germany, France, the United States and of course Ukraine are needed to resolve the Donbass issue. And Russia just needs to be forced to comply with the Minsk agreements (?). Rabbit-Yatsenyuk chirped almost the same thing.
    14. 0
      10 August 2020 10: 55
      Kravchuk will do what he did not quite manage to do in 1991 (before the foundation and sho at this very place, never anyone's). Who will help him?
    15. -2
      10 August 2020 11: 47
      What is the article about? And comments? Will everyone cry about the killed USSR?
      It's so late already. There and besides Kravchuk, the comrades had a hand. They wanted to become the owners as soon as possible.
    16. -1
      10 August 2020 15: 01
      Only now he is not sharing a common country, but his own and not with the party members, but with the KGB capitalists.
    17. 0
      10 August 2020 19: 40
      And again this one, from the "golden clip" of the Central Committee of the CPSU, got out.
    18. 0
      11 August 2020 11: 05
      In 1991 there was the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. It was possible to bargain and dream about the "red lines", especially with a good snack. What is there now, in 2020? Some sanctions remained. Painful, there is no doubt, but this should be discussed not with a shadow, but with those who come up with these sanctions and implement them, using this shadow. The world has changed long ago. But if a person lives in a fictitious or imaginary world, then conversations with him should be conducted not at the "negotiating table", but in the office of a psychiatrist.

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