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The decree of President Putin on the abolition of the use of astrakhan hats by senior officers of the RF Armed Forces is being discussed

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The decree of President Putin on the abolition of the use of astrakhan hats by senior officers of the RF Armed Forces is being discussed

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree, which is being actively discussed in the military and paramilitary environment. On the website for posting official legal information, it is reported that the president made a decision to remove astrakhan hats from the list of military uniforms for senior officers of the Russian Armed Forces.


The document, signed by Vladimir Putin, prescribes the wearing of astrakhan hats by the senior officers of the FSO (Federal Security Service) and the National Guard (Rosgvardia) troops.

At the same time, for colonels and generals of the RF Armed Forces, it is envisaged to wear fur hats with the abolition of wearing astrakhan hats.

One of the points of the presidential decree:

A fur cap of the established color with a visor (only for high-ranking officers (with 5% gilding sewing on the visor) and colonels of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Earlier it was reported about the initiative of the Ministry of Defense to abolish the use of astrakhan hats for colonels and generals of the RF Armed Forces. It was pointed out that providing the senior officers of the Russian Armed Forces with fur hats of the established color will cost the budget significantly less.

In the army, this initiative and the final decision are perceived differently. While some believe that changing the shape options is not so important, others believe that the final decision is not the best way to preserve traditions that have been established over many years. Others say that the main thing for the military is to follow orders (including presidential decrees), not to discuss them.
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    1. hydrox
      hydrox 9 August 2020 18: 50 New
      +2
      Everyone knows that any law (like an order) allows varying degrees of interpretation.
      It will all end up fearlessly: they will be allowed to wear hats, but they will have to be purchased at their own expense and it is still unclear with the color by type of troops - the paratroopers can clearly be offered a Kubanka (why not an astrakhan beret?), And in the North the hats will obviously have three ears and white! (Why not?!)
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 9 August 2020 18: 52 New
        -6
        Well, then I'm calm - all the same, the "burden" will be dropped from the shoulders of taxpayers!))
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 9 August 2020 18: 56 New
        +7
        and in the North the papakha will obviously be with

        - from the skin of a beaten midved, others will not warm
      3. Civil
        Civil 9 August 2020 19: 47 New
        -11 qualifying.
        Accents are highlighted, the army is considered potentially dangerous, can take the side of the people.
        1. mole
          mole 9 August 2020 20: 40 New
          +8
          Lived up !!!
          In such a country, there is not enough karakul for military leaders!
          Optimizers have reached the caps, so don't expect anything good.
          1. Alf
            Alf 9 August 2020 21: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: Mole
            Optimizers have reached the caps, so don't expect anything good.

            Rather, Greenpeace drove over ..., regretted the lambs.
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 9 August 2020 21: 46 New
            +1
            Karakul hats should have been canceled long ago. They remind me of the images of the Politburo members on the mausoleum.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 22: 37 New
              15
              Quote: 4ekist
              Karakul hats should have been canceled long ago. They remind me of the images of the Politburo members on the mausoleum.

              You yourself are a member. Politburo .. Unselected.
              You, girl, have not seen the generals. Real, not the Moscow military district.
              1. Avior
                Avior 9 August 2020 23: 34 New
                16
                Without touching on the essence of your post on the merits of the issue, I want to note that in the photo it is still not a real general, but an artist Georgy Zhzhenov, in a frame from the film Hot Snow.
                hi
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 10 August 2020 01: 05 New
                  10
                  Quote: Avior
                  Without touching on the essence of your post on the merits of the issue, I want to note that in the photo it is still not a real general, but an artist Georgy Zhzhenov, in a frame from the film Hot Snow.
                  hi

                  This is the Real General. Despite being an actor. (And the actor, by the way, is great). Why did I cite General Bessonov (G. Zhzhonov) as an example - because in the film he is an example of a general. Because from childhood he was brought up in a military environment. Because he looked at him like a little jerk and saw who the GENERAL was ... And also, probably, because he saw SUCH generals. And, in contrast, I saw the generals of the "Moscow Military District". And I was commanded by another general - General Gromov. He did not wear a hat, and I saw him three times. But General Gromov is the heir to the cinematic Bessonov.
                  1. Podvodnik
                    Podvodnik 10 August 2020 08: 50 New
                    11
                    small jerk looked at him and saw who was GENERAL


                    I graduated back in 1989 from VVMURE im. A.S. Popov. All uniforms were sewn in the studio. We took measurements, went to fittings. They were given three cream shirts. I cut off one "for the summer" (short sleeves). Came to the "north". Perestroika after all. The deadlines for issuing new parts of the form are approaching - there is nothing in stock. I wore two shirts for four years. On the left sleeve, even the cuff will crumble due to the start clock. And then it happened. They brought it in. I'm already a drop. I get it. Instead of three, they give me one cream shirt (not enough for everyone). I prayed: "Beautiful girls! I didn't get anything from the school!" They took pity, gave three, as expected. I came home joyful, and there ... The shirts are not the same. The fabric is different, some kind of transparent, to the body is not at all what it was. Saved.
                    I tried on a new jacket (issued "by size"). One word is a rag. So it was lying somewhere. With "graduation" in terms of workmanship and material, it could not be compared. So "lieutenant" and wore until dismissal.
                    Winter fur hat with leather top is one joy. Time passed, they began to issue with cloth. Saved again.
                    Once I was sitting in the central post on watch. Suitable miner-issued special clothing to stand on the upper watch. Shows "kurtets" - well, a complete "arctic fox". There are no Canada. In indignation, he asks: "And in this at the" top "in the sea to stand?" In our North?

                    I can only say one thing. The uniform of an officer (and indeed of any serviceman) should be a FORM, not a rag. If an officer is walking, it should be clear that this is an OFFICER, and not a PTU in rags.
                    Somehow recently I saw sailors (contractors?) In line for an ATM. They were dressed in such a way that there was a desire to turn away and not look at this squalor (I'm talking about a winter uniform).

                    In conclusion about the presidential decree: Let him give an example of economy. Together with their administration. Will go to the store "Bolshevichka" or "FOSP". There he will buy himself a suit from a domestic manufacturer. In Ivanovo he will hit the road for shirts, he will look at the “Skorokhod” or “Dynamo” for shoes. All his company of "talkers". And after that, you can sign a decree about the uniform of officers, generals and admirals. And so, no words. And those that fit, the moderator will not miss.
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 10 August 2020 16: 31 New
                      0
                      Quote: Podvodnik
                      The uniform of an officer (and indeed of any serviceman) should be a FORM, not a rag.

                      As our Vasily Filippych said
                      The paratrooper should look so that every woman, if not surrendered to him immediately, then at least to think about it.
                      Everything seems to be said about the appearance and form of clothing. drinks
                      1. Podvodnik
                        Podvodnik 10 August 2020 21: 37 New
                        0
                        The paratrooper must look so that every woman, if not surrendered to him immediately


                        I agree one hundred percent. This is how any officer should look, but a paratrooper, even more so.
                    2. Momotomba
                      Momotomba 11 August 2020 07: 48 New
                      +1
                      In Ivanovo, shirts are not sewn)) but they still make shirts. Once a familiar caprazzan gave me, the Ivanovo land-man, a vest. Yes from the warehouse, real.!. We look at the label, and there is Ivanovo))
                  2. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 10 August 2020 15: 13 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    This is the Real General. Despite being an actor. (And the actor, by the way, is great). Why did I cite General Bessonov (G. Zhzhonov) as an example - because in the film he is an example of a general. Because from childhood he was brought up in a military environment. Because he looked at him like a little jerk and saw who the GENERAL was ... And also, probably, because he saw SUCH generals. And, in contrast, I saw the generals of the "Moscow Military District".

                    This is a "general in cinema", in which historical accuracy is often sacrificed to an artistic image. Once a general, then we emphasize the image with a hat, so that it is immediately clear.
                    If you look at the archival photographs, then on the front line and next to it, generals and marshals most often wore ordinary hats. Because standing out from others on the front line is the shortest path to the grave. For example, Govorov:

                    Hats were usually worn only for staged shooting.
                    1. dedusik
                      dedusik 10 August 2020 22: 43 New
                      0
                      And in winter I went to work in it every day bully
                2. Serg koma
                  Serg koma 10 August 2020 08: 35 New
                  +4
                  Photo 23 January 1976
                  Some OWNED, truly fighting generals, laid down ... on the Orders of the Minister
                  ORDER OF THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE OF THE USSR

                  No. 250 November 1, 1973 Moscow.

                  "On the introduction of the Rules for wearing military uniforms by servicemen of the Soviet Army and the Navy."
                  ..........
                  Section II. FORM OF CLOTHING OF THE SOVIET ARMY SERVICE.
                  Chapter 1. The uniform of the Marshals of the Soviet Union, generals of the army, marshals of the combat arms and generals of the Soviet Army
                  Article 25. Dress uniform for the formation (except aviation):
                  3 i m n i
                  Papakha, a ceremonial-day steel-colored overcoat, a ceremonial open tunic and navy blue trousers with boots, a white shirt with a black tie, boots, a ceremonial belt for an overcoat, brown gloves, a white muffler.


                  Article 30. Field uniform:
                  Let me n I
                  Field cap, khaki, field closed jacket and khaki trousers in boots, boots, field equipment.


                  Not the form paints the person / general /, but the content
          3. Souchastnik
            Souchastnik 9 August 2020 22: 12 New
            +8
            Optimizers have reached the caps, so don't expect anything good.

            The Su-57 is not enough for the Armata, but do you feel sorry for the hats?
            The next step is to buy the form at your own expense. In addition to the FSO and the Russian Guard. This is more necessary.
            1. 76rtbr
              76rtbr 10 August 2020 05: 37 New
              +2
              Yes !!!! and karakul depicts the convolutions of the brain !!!
            2. trophy
              trophy 10 August 2020 08: 50 New
              0
              And we have been buying for so long.
          4. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 22: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: Mole
            Lived up !!!
            In such a country, there is not enough karakul for military leaders!

            Once there was enough ... Maybe because of the karakul you won?
            Hardly because of the karakul. Rather, thanks to the scribble.
          5. iouris
            iouris 10 August 2020 00: 10 New
            -2
            Does the warlord have a head just to wear a hat? It's time to save some neighboring country from a geopolitical enemy, attach something, and then ask to introduce expensive accessories. "Work, brothers!"
          6. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 10 August 2020 00: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Mole
            Lived up !!!
            In such a country, there is not enough karakul for military leaders!

            There are fucking kurkuli in the country, but there are not enough hats for everyone.
            Caps for curkul. And that's it, period.
          7. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 10 August 2020 02: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Mole
            got to the hats,

            According to Senka and a hat!
            The thief's hat is on fire!
            You will recognize the fool in the red hat!
            The hat does not keep his head ... etc, etc ...
        2. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 9 August 2020 21: 14 New
          +3
          First a potion then here
        3. 4ekist
          4ekist 9 August 2020 21: 43 New
          +1
          What is this nonsense? Have you had a coronavirus?
        4. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 10 August 2020 00: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Civil
          Accents are highlighted, the army is considered potentially dangerous, can take the side of the people.

          So the army should be given a hat. Look how!
      4. halpat
        halpat 10 August 2020 08: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        Everyone knows that any law (like an order) allows varying degrees of interpretation.
        It will all end up fearlessly: they will be allowed to wear hats, but they will have to be purchased at their own expense and it is still unclear with the color by type of troops - the paratroopers can clearly be offered a Kubanka (why not an astrakhan beret?), And in the North the hats will obviously have three ears and white! (Why not?!)

        at their own expense, fur, but not astrakhan.
        then the junior officers were tsigay, the color depending on the type of troops.
        senior officers are muskrat.
        generals - fawn, mink
        admirals - seals, beavers
        the Minister of Defense - Malachai from the silver fox.
        laughing
        fur farms will develop again
    2. For example
      For example 9 August 2020 18: 50 New
      24
      The whole point is in the uniform, only in the uniform.
      Take the uniforms away from the military - and there is not a single person who would want to become a soldier.

      Erich Maria Remarque.

      Apparently modern leaders think differently.

      I remember saving on dirks. The sailors were bent over.
      Now they save on the caps of colonels.

      Extremely smart people. wassat

      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 9 August 2020 19: 01 New
        +8
        The advantage of astrakhan hats is that they look like brains from a distance. How so?
        1. Souchastnik
          Souchastnik 9 August 2020 22: 14 New
          -3
          they look like brains from afar.

          The avatar was selected according to the same principle.
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 10 August 2020 07: 57 New
            -1
            The avatar has a stylized image of a kurai inflorescence.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 9 August 2020 19: 03 New
        15
        Quote: For example
        Extremely smart people.

        What do you want from liberda?
        It’s beyond our powers to raise the Russian economy, but to save on tea rinsing is sacred !!
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 August 2020 19: 42 New
          -8
          Quote: hydrox
          What do you want from liberda?

          what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 9 August 2020 19: 57 New
            15
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Quote: hydrox
            What do you want from liberda?

            what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general
            In Israel, in order to save officers in general, a minimum of differences in uniform, nothing, they somehow distinguish, they cope with subordination.
            1. andreykolesov123
              andreykolesov123 9 August 2020 20: 02 New
              +5
              Quote: sniperino
              In Israel, in order to save officers in general, a minimum of differences in uniform, nothing, they somehow distinguish, they cope with subordination.

              so after all, the hats were canceled, so that we could sell karakul in Israel at a profit
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            3. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 10 August 2020 02: 24 New
              +1
              In Israel, in order to save officers in general, a minimum of differences in uniform, nothing, they somehow distinguish, they cope with subordination.

              And we, too, at least from Afghanistan.
            4. pmkemcity
              pmkemcity 10 August 2020 05: 05 New
              +4
              To save the officers, each soldier must be given an astrakhan hat.
          2. kulinar
            kulinar 9 August 2020 20: 09 New
            +6
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Quote: hydrox
            What do you want from liberda?

            what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general

            It is difficult to assume that senior officers will be on the front line in full dress ... And if in the deep rear, then it makes no difference. Then kapets.
            In Great Britain, the dress uniform has not changed, if I'm not mistaken, since 1940.
            Field yes, changing with the trends of modern combat and theater of war. But the "parade" is not touched, and all sorts of couturiers are left without work ... laughing
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 9 August 2020 20: 15 New
              -4
              Quote: kulinar
              And if in the deep rear, then it is already indifferent.

              now a war is going on on computer screens, in your house, for your brains. General, this is a highly qualified military specialist. A controlled drone can be somehow neutralized with an impulse, an autonomous drone, with protection from impulses, with AI elements, will destroy the general. Such a drone is convenient for its autonomy, imagine a terrorist attack at a gala event in the rear!
          3. mole
            mole 9 August 2020 20: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Quote: hydrox
            What do you want from liberda?

            what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general

            The visor with gilding is the same!
          4. BAI
            BAI 9 August 2020 21: 00 New
            +6
            This was the Finnish one. All have white sheepskin coats, and the officers have black. In the winter. Their sniper was the first to be knocked out. But thank God, they quickly came to their senses (those who approved the supply standards).
          5. Alf
            Alf 9 August 2020 21: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Quote: hydrox
            What do you want from liberda?

            what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general

            In this case, both the general and the marshal and the supreme commander-in-chief must wear exactly the same uniform with the private, and must be made of the same material. And if you remember the quality of optics, then stars are also not supposed to be worn for safety reasons.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 9 August 2020 22: 15 New
              +8
              That is how it is in the Israeli army.
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 9 August 2020 21: 49 New
          +3
          The generals must also abolish stripes and golden shoulder straps, otherwise they look like clowns.
          1. Mityasha
            Mityasha 10 August 2020 05: 23 New
            +3
            Gold shoulder straps are only on the ceremonial tunic, and not only on the generals.
            Those who do not know the traditions and historical past of our army, and couch warriors look like clowns!
            1. RUBEY
              RUBEY 10 August 2020 11: 17 New
              0
              With this logic, epaulettes can be returned. Get even deeper into the historical past.
              1. Mityasha
                Mityasha 10 August 2020 11: 53 New
                0
                You found the logic right here. During the Great Patriotic War, in the most difficult times, shoulder straps were returned, and it was gold. Apparently impoverished now.
                I don’t propose to change to the carts historically, but the FRONT uniform is the front one for that. Dembelya is just dragged along by the epaulettes, and then they sprinkle with saliva: remove, remove, disperse ...
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 9 August 2020 22: 01 New
          +7
          By and large, what's the difference what kind of hat is on the head .. Tea is not a boyars in beaver hats to walk .. The main thing is that this head is light! Clever .. They respected this head .. And then the scarlet hats ... Funny ...
      3. orionvitt
        orionvitt 9 August 2020 21: 00 New
        +7
        Quote: For example
        The whole point is in the uniform, only in the uniform

        The whole point is in the service of the Fatherland. The uniform is secondary.
      4. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 10 August 2020 00: 55 New
        +4
        Single-breasted? What are you? Do you know that no one is fighting in a single-breasted one now? Ugliness! War is on the doorstep, and we are not ready! No, we're not ready ...

      5. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 10 August 2020 19: 30 New
        +1
        Now they save on the caps of colonels.

        But they do not regret the material for huge, clown caps.
    3. svp67
      svp67 9 August 2020 19: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      That is, ditties:

      Nazariy, ay. yay, yay .... BOTTOM
      Moreover, the FSO, the National Guard, and so I understand the FSB, these "hats" remain, so that the ditty is still relevant
      1. snucerist
        snucerist 9 August 2020 20: 25 New
        0
        Perhaps even more relevant and understandable in the military environment will now be the experiences of the characters in Voinovich's story "The Hat".
        After all, the attribute of belonging in the conditional tops is taken away.
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 9 August 2020 21: 53 New
        0
        In the FSO, you can leave it for the Kremlin regiment, cancel everything else. And Rosgvardia, along with Mr. Zolotov, let him run around in berets.
        1. Mityasha
          Mityasha 10 August 2020 05: 26 New
          +1
          But why waste time on trifles, let's cancel the uniform for everyone, one feature of fishermen and hunters is more than law enforcement agencies, although we will differ from them ...
  3. RUnnm
    RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 29 New
    15
    Well, thank God, we finally found something to save on and save the budget! And if you entrust the manufacture of new hats to Chubais - well, in general, there will be no limit to savings ...
    Was the draft decree left in an hour from Serdyukov?
    For the cost of one of T. Ivanov's country palaces, all the RF Armed Forces can be kept for a couple of years ...
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  5. IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 18: 32 New
    11
    FSO (Federal Security Service) and the National Guard troops (Rosgvardia).

    Praetorians and gendarmes. It is logical. They are now a priority for the authorities who have lost all connection with the people.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 August 2020 18: 38 New
      -3
      What impressed you so? what does the connection with the people have to do with caps for senior officers? that the father that the grandfather of them could not stand my example. Moreover, they canceled the material and not the cap itself.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 9 August 2020 19: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        What impressed you so much?

        Here I am, reading the comments and wondering what the fuss is about?
        Will the hat, having replaced the astrakhan fur with artificial fur, stop fulfilling its purpose? Does Karakul Warm Better? Then the soldiers also need karakul, if for sugrev. And if for beauty, then the officer is not a young lady, even if he is a general. Beauty is of no use to him. The main thing is functionality.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 19: 45 New
          20
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Will the hat, having replaced the astrakhan fur with artificial fur, stop fulfilling its purpose?

          And then why FSO and Rosgvardia in karakul? Or is there suddenly karakul acquires some properties unknown to the village science desperately necessary for the FSOs and the National Guards?
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 9 August 2020 19: 56 New
            -4
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

            And then why FSO and Rosgvardia in karakul? Or is there suddenly karakul acquires some properties unknown to the village science desperately necessary for the FSOs and the National Guards?

            Still, I did not understand whether you are against the decree or against what the FSO and the National Guard have left.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 00 New
              10
              I am neither for nor against. I just don't understand the situation. When karakul is allowed here, but not here.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 9 August 2020 23: 14 New
                +5
                The guards and gendarmes were always "devoted to the emperor without flattery," so he distinguished them and favored them. Arakcheev also said about flattery and devotion.
          2. BAI
            BAI 9 August 2020 21: 03 New
            +2
            And there is also a company of the guard of honor. There the privates wear astrakhan hats. We have military prosecutors in the garrison, regardless of rank: from lieutenant to colonel - in karakul.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 21: 07 New
              0
              Yes, you there, in your kara (k) ule, are completely fucking crazy. Well, they quickly removed it, we have savings here and in general.
          3. Lynx2000
            Lynx2000 9 August 2020 21: 44 New
            +7
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

            And then why FSO and Rosgvardia in karakul? Or is there suddenly karakul acquires some properties unknown to the village science desperately necessary for the FSOs and the National Guards?

            The abolition of the uniform provision of uniform astrakhan hats for senior officers is an initiative of the RF Ministry of Defense.
            FSO and Rosgvardia are other departments, their leadership has not canceled such hats.

            Well, excuse me for being rude, but in this case, the saying applies to the RF Ministry of Defense:
            "When the cat has nothing to do, he licks bells."
        2. mole
          mole 9 August 2020 20: 45 New
          +8
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: carstorm 11
          What impressed you so much?

          Here I am, reading the comments and wondering what the fuss is about?
          Will the hat, having replaced the astrakhan fur with artificial fur, stop fulfilling its purpose? Does Karakul Warm Better? Then the soldiers also need karakul, if for sugrev. And if for beauty, then the officer is not a young lady, even if he is a general. Beauty is of no use to him. The main thing is functionality.

          In this case, let the motorcade not be chased on Mercians, on Priors. Also a vehicle.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 9 August 2020 20: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Mole

            In this case, let the motorcade not be chased on Mercians, on Priors. Also a vehicle.

            And who told you that I am against? And the military in general on UAZs should
          2. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik 10 August 2020 09: 01 New
            0
            Also a vehicle.


            Domestic, by the way (for now). Neither the ZILs nor the Volga are already gone. Let them "ram".
        3. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 10 August 2020 05: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Will the hat, having replaced the astrakhan fur with artificial fur, stop fulfilling its purpose? Does Karakul Warm Better?

          Respected! Do you have the call sign "Krasnoyarsk"? Don't write nonsense. In Siberia, all these fleece-Cheburashkas are only up to minus 5, and up to minus 10 (not long). For hunting and fishing, only a flying fur set of jacket-rompers, which, by the way, is already 50 years old (my father's), has only been altered cuffs. And a hat, only a fur hat, by the way in which you wind on Parny or Saragash, as if screws are being wrapped in your head (if in a fleece cap). The mittens are the same only fur. All the newfangled gadgets are available, including imported ones, including the army of overseas friends - only for the Siberian summer. How they gathered to conquer us, I do not understand.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 19: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        that the father that the grandfather of them could not stand my example.

        Your grandfather's opinion is as important as your father's. But a counter question, what does their opinion have to do with it?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 9 August 2020 19: 45 New
          -2
          did you wear a hat or a hat? they are yes.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 19: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: carstorm 11
            did you wear a hat or a hat?

            I wore a hat. I did not wear a hat. AND?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 9 August 2020 20: 03 New
              -2
              what u? they did not like their karakul. what else is there to explain? that one that the second was not delighted with their dads. did not like to wear them. although I did not expect this from my father. he loved all sorts of show-off in uniform since school). the cap was such a saddle that I could not even repeat)
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 08 New
                0
                They didn't love. Someone on the contrary. AND?
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 9 August 2020 20: 20 New
                  -2
                  without I. just an observation from life. so the abolition of karakul again, as for me, has no meaning for the army.
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 23 New
                    0
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    so the abolition of karakul again, as for me, has no meaning for the army.

                    Well, here's how to look. What is not important to you can mortally offend another.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 9 August 2020 20: 25 New
                      0
                      so on this and do not generalize. but I speak only from myself.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 9 August 2020 20: 15 New
          -5
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Quote: carstorm 11
          that the father that the grandfather of them could not stand my example.

          Your grandfather's opinion is as important as your father's. But a counter question, what does their opinion have to do with it?
          You would then designate yourself, for that matter: you trade in karakul, or you just hate Putin, that you are trying so hard to see the spit in this decree ...
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 19 New
            +4
            Quote: sniperino
            You would then designate yourself, for that matter: you trade in karakul,

            Well, what else could one expect, what assumptions from a petty-bourgeois patriot?
            Quote: sniperino
            you just hate Putin that it is so hard to see a spit in this decree

            Putin, after all his demarches, can completely forget about my respect. But he probably doesn't give a damn about it.
            1. bukhach
              bukhach 10 August 2020 11: 22 New
              -3
              What do you mean! Putin is probably upset at losing your respect! However, he has enough respect from other people.
    2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 9 August 2020 19: 40 New
      +2
      And what do the praetorians and gendarmes have to do with it, if the change of the material for the headgear takes place on "the initiative of the Ministry of Defense to abolish the use of astrakhan hats for colonels and generals of the RF Armed Forces." All claims to Shoigu!
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 19: 50 New
        -1
        Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        All claims to Shoigu!

        This is like an analogue - "all claims to Putin?"
        1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 10 August 2020 19: 13 New
          0
          If the Ministry of Defense, which is headed by Shoigu, has come up with a similar initiative, so where does Putin have to do with it? Then it is necessary to lose respect for the minister and those who prepared such proposals! And the rest of the heads of the power departments did not come forward with such proposals, and their generals and colonels are still wearing a karakul ...
  6. bar
    bar 9 August 2020 18: 33 New
    +4
    It is high time. It is not good to depend on the products of foreign countries in matters of armament laughing
  7. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 9 August 2020 18: 35 New
    +3
    Hats with handles will be taken away from the military and given to the guardsmen, guards .......
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 August 2020 18: 36 New
    -3
    Karakul in Russia does not "grow" ... Go to the Turkmens to bow? Enough...
    1. gsev
      gsev 9 August 2020 18: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Karakul in Russia does not "grow" ... Go to the Turkmens to bow? Enough...

      But then it is necessary to save on the FSO. The astrakhan hat for the colonel of the Russian army was a sign of respect for his merits against the background of less successful, diligent and intelligent colleagues. This cost the budget of the Russian Federation much cheaper than the maintenance of officers and their pension services from our partners-foes from Turkey.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 9 August 2020 18: 52 New
        +2
        Let the beavers wear. Or sable ... Turkmenistan was part of the USSR, and karakul was the cheapest of the expensive furs. Although also a currency product. And now?
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 9 August 2020 19: 05 New
        +5
        But then it is necessary to save on the FSO. The astrakhan hat for the colonel of the Russian army was a sign of respect for his merits against the background of less successful, diligent and intelligent colleagues.

        Sure! The disintegration of empires began with such trifles!
        They don't know what they are doing ...
        1. Alf
          Alf 9 August 2020 21: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Arzt
          The disintegration of empires began with such trifles!
          They don't know what they are doing ...

          It seems that they just know ...
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 19: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Go to the Turkmens to bow? Enough...

      Are Turkmens another non-brother? The number of non-brothers is growing exponentially. And how to live now ?!
    3. Alf
      Alf 9 August 2020 21: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Go to the Turkmens to bow? Enough...

      But the FSO and the National Guard will still have to go. How to explain this?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 9 August 2020 22: 45 New
        +2
        The best karakul, of course, is in Turkmenistan. But the astrakhan breed of sheep is grown in Dagestan, and in Azerbaijan, and it seems even in Kalmykia.
  9. askort154
    askort154 9 August 2020 18: 38 New
    +3
    Really, finally, they decided to switch to a fox with a tail. Then it's better for sable ones - nobler.
    And what, a lot of money - even the coronavirus does not gobble up everything. Damn, take the time to change shape. fool
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 48 New
      -3
      By the way, no historical document contains such a mention. )))
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 August 2020 18: 55 New
      -2
      not the form of clothing, if specifically, but the material of the product)
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 57 New
      -9
      Quote: askort154
      Damn, take the time to change shape.

      Probably in 1943 they also said the same ... request
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Probably in 1943 they also said the same ...

        In '43, too, was taken away karakul?
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 21: 02 New
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          In '43, too, was taken away karakul?

          Google what happened to the army uniform in 1943.
          But if upbringing for some reason does not allow, then I will make the task easier:
          https://masterok.livejournal.com/4274858.html
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 21: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            But if education for some reason does not allow

            It would seem that what does education have to do with it. But apparently schoolchildren have their own special logic.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 21: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              But apparently schoolchildren have their own special logic.

              And then what prevents you from googling yourself? A kindergarten outlook on life?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 21: 37 New
                -5
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                A kindergarten outlook on life?

                He clearly does not bother you. Which is somewhat annoying. Previously, such self-liquidated at a fairly early age and did not interfere with everyone else's normal life, now they live to retire, sending the lives of others.
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 21: 53 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  now they are living up to retirement sending the lives of those around them.

                  You decide - am I a pensioner, a kindergartener or a schoolboy? wassat Where did I "send" your life? wassat
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Which is somewhat annoying.

                  Poor thing, I advise 30 drops of Corvalol before bed. They say it helps.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  did not interfere with everyone else's normal life

                  Hinting at your "normality"? Apparently you are disturbing yourself. lol
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 22: 36 New
                    0
                    Somehow you are not at all smart, but at all even dull. Although I credit you an attempt to cheer me up. But the circus, however, with your participation will definitely go broke.
                    1. Vasyan1971
                      Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 22: 48 New
                      0
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      Somehow you are not at all smart, but at all even dull.

                      Well, nothing else but something like that should be expected from you.
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      Although an attempt to cheer me up, I credit you.

                      Good. So be it. Start a notebook and put a plus sign there. wassat
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      But the circus, however, with your participation will definitely go broke.

                      That’s why I don’t work there. But I will trust the opinion of the "smish" and "sad" clown. You know better. wassat
                      Allow me to mutter something goodbye. If anything - I will answer tomorrow morning. Cheer up!
                      1. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 22: 56 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        That's why I don't work there.

                        Kicked out? I knew it!
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        Cheer up

                        I try. But somehow it hasn't worked out very well lately. There have been too many patriots lately. Which makes me absolutely depressed. I thought people were, on average, smarter.
                      2. bukhach
                        bukhach 10 August 2020 11: 33 New
                        -2
                        They spoke smartly about patriots. Well, you are not one of those, you are a broad-minded, progressive-minded and tolerant! Oh, no, tolerance is not yours, otherwise patriots would not bother you and would not drive you into depression. winked
                      3. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 10 August 2020 21: 56 New
                        -1
                        Are you trying to troll me like that, a bacterium?
                      4. bukhach
                        bukhach 11 August 2020 13: 44 New
                        0
                        You don’t poke me around, h.a.m.l.o. From such shots as you turn back from the heart.
                      5. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2020 18: 33 New
                        -1
                        This permanent booze makes you sick. Stop drinking and life will get better. May be. Probably.
                2. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 10 August 2020 18: 38 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Kicked out? I knew it!

                  Grumbled, did you? Well done. You give in to training. This is what circus education means!
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Which makes me absolutely depressed.

                  Bread Corvalola.
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  They say it helps.

                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  I thought people were, on average, smarter.

                  If you focus on yourself, then yes - people are on average smarter than you. Do not despair! You are not to blame. So the stars converged. wassat
                3. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 10 August 2020 22: 00 New
                  0
                  And besides the modes of stupid shkolota and a sad clown, what else do you have? laughing
                4. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 11 August 2020 06: 07 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  And besides the modes of stupid shkolota and a sad clown, what else do you have? laughing

                  There is, of course, but you have to go down to your level for your sake. wassat Otherwise, you will not perceive. Everything is for you. If you were smarter, you would appreciate ... wassat But all the same - do not despair. You will grow up, you will appreciate it.
                5. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2020 18: 31 New
                  0
                  I don't want to upset you, but for now you are somewhere in the area of ​​the soles of my boots.
                6. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 11 August 2020 20: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  I don't want to upset you, but for now you are somewhere in the area of ​​the soles of my boots.

                  Oh, how lovely! Kindergarten, pants with straps. wassat Tochnyak - from circus. You walk on your hands. It is clear now why you are so inadequate. The blood rushes to the head not bad. wassat You end it, go back to normal. lol
                7. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2020 21: 26 New
                  0
                  What - what are you screaming there? Somehow, you know, you can't hear from under the boots.
                8. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 12 August 2020 18: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  What - what are you screaming there? Somehow, you know, you can't hear from under the boots.

                  As I say: kindergarten, pants with straps! wassat Everything is written there. Reread it three times. Slowly and thoughtfully. Maybe it will. wassat If you yourself poke yourself in the eyes, do not despair, ask your mother or someone from the elders. wassat
                9. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 12 August 2020 20: 19 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  ask mom or someone from the elders

                  How do you usually do? laughing
                10. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 12 August 2020 21: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  How do you usually do?

                  Of course not. I teach a young son. You have not gone far from him in terms of mental development. wassat Although older, I hope you will. wassat
                  You are shy of mom, ask dad. Some of the elders must help you, after all! request
                11. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 12 August 2020 21: 08 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Of course not.

                  That is, yes? laughing
                12. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 12 August 2020 21: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  That is, yes?

                  Exactly - you degrade before your eyes. wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Of course not.

                  Finally turn to the elders. wassat
                13. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 13 August 2020 12: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Finally turn to the elders.

                  Turn around, I give you permission. laughing
                14. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 13 August 2020 22: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Turn around, I give you permission.

                  Yes. No one is immune from the fucking T9. request And this kind of thing will only "shrink" certain kinds of characters. You in particular. wassat In fact, you continue to degrade. wassat This is probably because you still continue to walk on your hands. Blood rushes to the brain. Well, it's your business ... laughing
                15. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 14 August 2020 08: 11 New
                  0
                  Well, I still have a lot to degrade. But you have nowhere to degrade. After all, in order to degrade, you need to break away from the bottom at least a millimeter.
                16. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 14 August 2020 20: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Well, I still have a lot to degrade.

                  That's for sure! And this is what you are actively doing at the moment. wassat
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  But you have nowhere to degrade.

                  Ha ha. Unscrupulous - I was the first to say about you. wassat You repeat yourself. Degradation is evident! wassat
                17. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 14 August 2020 22: 39 New
                  0
                  You're fabulously stupid after all.
                18. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 15 August 2020 14: 50 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  You're fabulously stupid after all.

                  Are you handing over positions? I decided to finally and irrevocably degrade into banal insults.wassat There was no strength left to hide the true face. wassat As I noticed at the very beginning:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  nothing else but the like is not to be expected from you.
                  wassat
                  Well, deepen the depth of your "level", chew more feces and spit at me again. wassat
                19. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 15 August 2020 15: 41 New
                  0
                  I have the impression that I am talking with the same hat. You are no different from her in terms of intelligence.
                20. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 15 August 2020 20: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  You are no different from her in terms of intelligence.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Well done. You give in to training. This is what circus education means!
                  wassat
                  Nice try! But for now, as usual in your performance, it is primitive. wassat
                  Well, come on again. Just get more feces, chew them thoroughly and aim better. wassat Don’t skip! Take the order
                  responsibly. wassat
                21. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 15 August 2020 22: 39 New
                  0
                  Aren't you tired of showing your dementia yet?
                22. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 08: 27 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Aren't you tired of showing your dementia yet?

                  I'm not tired of dipping you in your own guano. wassat
                  Therefore, I give you another attempt to demonstrate your inferiority.
                  The past, well, are no good! Dull, gray, not funny. request
                  To begin with, try to finally get up from hand to foot, at least to restore normal blood circulation. And everything that you chew and what you try to spit hangs on your chin. wassat
                  Well, one-two-three ... Try it! wassat
                23. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 16 August 2020 14: 06 New
                  0
                  I see not tired.
                24. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 17: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  I see not tired.

                  Poorly. Not good at all. On the one hand, you are obedient, trained. On the other hand, as it turns out - some kind of weak and sluggish. No. Now it is clear why your tsyrk left, and you were left as that Sid. But don't be discouraged. I'm kind, so I give it another try. Pull yourself together ... One-two-three ... Up!
                25. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 16 August 2020 19: 51 New
                  +1
                  And you are stubborn in your stupidity.
                26. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 20: 44 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  And you are stubborn in your stupidity.

                  wassat I will never get tired of wiping my feet on your carcass, do not hope.wassat And you still slide into a dull gray. Excessive rush of blood affects your small brains that are not designed for such a load. Or is it not blood, but urine? wassat Be careful anyway, stroke is a serious matter. I will miss you. Take care of yourself. wassat
                  And try again. And-and-and, Up! ...
                27. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 17 August 2020 21: 45 New
                  -1
                  Here you are puffing up something and all in vain. As you were useful, so they will remain.
                28. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 18 August 2020 18: 02 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  How helpful have you been ...

                  Who by whom? I understand that this is something offensive, in your wretched opinion, but I would like to be more specific. wassat
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Here you are puffing up something and all in vain.

                  How is it "in vain"? I am having fun at your expense, to the fullest. laughing It's fun to scoff at you who think you're so smart ... wassat
                  So, it was a good attempt, but, alas, as usual - not enough. wassat Try again. Now I’ll take a run, or something ... wassat And chew carefully. wassat
                29. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 18 August 2020 19: 06 New
                  0
                  Run the cockroach. laughing
                30. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 18 August 2020 20: 23 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Run the cockroach.

                  And again, degradation triumphs in your face.
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  it was a good attempt, but, alas, as usual - not enough. Try again. Now I’ll take a run, or something ...
                  wassat You have to be careful.
                  Listen to your clever uncle: run better, otherwise your harkotina hangs from your chin, your snow-white collar gets dirty. F-fu, how disgusting! No.
                  Come on, r-one - two-a - tr-ri ... Pshöl! wassat
                31. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 19 August 2020 12: 44 New
                  0
                  Have you learned the lessons of the shkolotron? Look the folder will paint the ass again with a belt.
                32. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 19 August 2020 18: 50 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Have you learned the lessons of the shkolotron? Look the folder will paint the ass again with a belt.

                  And again the dull nursery level. wassat
                  But even the toddler knows that school will begin on September 1, not earlier!wassat And apparently, the ass painted with a belt is your sore subject! laughing laughing laughing
                  I state: in vain you chewed poop for spitting in my direction. Again, only his sloping chin got dirty! wassat
                  But I'm kind. I give you unlimited attempts. Come on, please your uncle with your progressive dullness. wassat
                  Pull yourself together. And-and-and ppraz ... wassat
                33. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 19 August 2020 20: 22 New
                  0
                  Is your psychological trauma shit?
                34. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 20 August 2020 19: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Is your psychological trauma shit?

                  Chewed poop, or rather spitting them, is your only communication style available to you. request It is not my fault that, although you are an obedient dog, you are still not active enough and therefore I have to constantly encourage you. Let it sink to your depressingly low level. wassat
                  But do not be discouraged and do not despair! Continue your ride. wassat Alla!
                35. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 20 August 2020 23: 43 New
                  0
                  You are a pathetic microbe.
                36. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 21 August 2020 21: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  You are a pathetic microbe.

                  And is that all that your natural gyrus is capable of?wassat You are essentially flawed.laughing Damaged and ridiculous.wassat So go on, please me with your misery. wassat In Russia, such characters have always amused people. wassat
                37. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 21 August 2020 21: 31 New
                  0
                  Vasyan you are simply stupid, accept it.
                38. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 22 August 2020 08: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Vasyan you are simply stupid, accept it.

                  And it bleats a character with an unpronounceable self-name! wassat
                  The fact that you, an obedient trained dog (the circus upbringing affects) and continue to try to spit chewed poop is good!laughing But damn it! You are told to SPIT, not swallow them!wassat
                  Change this habit urgently, or you will end up like Lyokha Navalny. This will be a huge loss for me. I'm used to wiping my feet on you. wassat Don't be lost! And chew carefully! wassat
                39. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 22 August 2020 12: 20 New
                  0
                  Are you stupid enough to understand nothing at all?
                40. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 22 August 2020 13: 23 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Are you stupid enough to understand nothing at all?

                  The main thing is for you to finally understand that you are required to chew and spit poop, and not chew and swallow them. wassat DO NOT SWALLOW, even to spite me!wassatwassatwassat
                41. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 23 August 2020 02: 26 New
                  0
                  Is it true that you saved the ISS? That you plugged the meteorite hole?
                42. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 23 August 2020 09: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Is it true that you saved the ISS? That you plugged the meteorite hole?

                  That's what happens to stubborn idiots who swallow chewed poop instead of spitting it! wassat And I warned you: quit this habit! wassat Your degradation has accelerated dramatically! laughing Bear in mind that you, as Lyokhu Navalny, will not be lucky to save you at the Charité. request You will die in the end in a fool ... wassat wassat wassat
                  Although, on the other hand, give me something else, a moronic. Have fun uncle.wassat
                43. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 23 August 2020 15: 22 New
                  0
                  Don't be lost, booger, you amuse me.
                44. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 24 August 2020 20: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Don't be lost, booger, you amuse me.

                  You are secondary! wassat No fantasy! wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Although, on the other hand, give me something else, a moronic. Have fun uncle.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Don't be lost! And chew carefully!

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  So go on, please me with your misery.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Continue your ride.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Come on, please your uncle with your progressive dullness.

                  And remember the main thing:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  I will never get tired of wiping my feet on your carcass, do not hope.
                  wassat
                  So strain the shriveled compost that replaces your brains, chew on another batch of poop and try to spit on me again. But, for God's sake! Do not swallow as usual! wassat
                45. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 24 August 2020 22: 03 New
                  0
                  Continue to please me with your stupidity.
                46. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 25 August 2020 19: 31 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Continue to please me with your stupidity.

                  That's how I knew that you would merge! wassat But because unicellular organisms have no imagination and no flight of thought. wassat The only good thing is that you are obedient. You don't disappear and try to flap. wassat Do not disdain sluggish and plagiarism. Although, after your favorite habit of poop-skinning and poop-swallowing, it is clear that you are not squeamish. wassat
                  Therefore, I'm waiting for your next dull and dull attempt to offend me. wassat
                  And don't forget to chew! This is important to you! wassat
                47. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 25 August 2020 21: 17 New
                  0
                  Go on. Your hysteria pleases me.
                48. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 25 August 2020 22: 05 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Go on. Your hysteria pleases me.

                  Good dog! wassat Obedient dog! wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Therefore, I'm waiting for your next dull and dull attempt to offend me.

                  Vote! Louder! wassat
                49. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 25 August 2020 23: 02 New
                  +1
                  Go on. Your hysteria pleases me. smile
                50. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 27 August 2020 18: 13 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Go on. Your hysteria pleases me. smile

                  But you were ordered:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  strain the dried compost to replace your brains, chew on another batch of poop and try to spit on me again. But, for God's sake! Do not swallow as usual!
                  , but apparently even this is not given to you. request Degradant, he is a degradant in everythingwassat, it's nothing you can do.request Born to crawl cannot fly. ©
                  Well, well ... I'll have to go down to you to the very bottom to go to your level:
                  Go on, your hysteria pleases me! wassat
                51. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 28 August 2020 09: 56 New
                  0
                  I thought you were completely merged. But you continue to please me with your stupidity.
                52. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 28 August 2020 22: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  I thought you were completely merged.

                  He "thought"! Wow! wassat Where and how long have you learned this word? wassat
                  And do not hope, poor thing! wassat
                  Who is to blame for not only lacking intelligence, but also memory! wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  I am having fun at your expense, to the fullest. It's fun to scoff at you who think you're so smart ... wassat

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  That's how I knew that you would merge!

                  And you are secondary again. wassat
                  Eck is eating you, you poor girl! Not otherwise, the fecal diet began to take its toll. And I warned you - chew and spit, but do not swallow! wassat
                  In short, show me one more "brilliant" facet of your degrading personality! laughing And hurry up! wassat
                53. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 28 August 2020 23: 35 New
                  +1
                  Poop is definitely your complex. Have you tried to treat?
                54. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 29 August 2020 16: 24 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Poop is definitely your complex.

                  All that is needed has already been said about this:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Chewed poop, or rather spitting them, is your only communication style available to you.
                  wassat Did you try to heal the memory? laughing Who is to blame for the taste of coprophilia? wassat And I warned you many times! request
                  By the way, I am satisfied with the expected phenomenon of one more facet of your degrading personality. Keep up the good work! good I look forward to it. laughing
                55. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 29 August 2020 19: 49 New
                  0
                  If you are treated, the poop complex is definitely progressing.
                56. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 30 August 2020 12: 17 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  If you are treated, the poop complex is definitely progressing.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971

                  All that needs to be said about this

                  I know that for actively progressing degradants it is necessary to repeat it several times. So I’ll repeat as much as necessary, don’t worry. wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  By the way, I am satisfied with the expected phenomenon of one more facet of your degrading personality. Keep up the good work! I'm looking forward to it.
                  laughing
                57. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 30 August 2020 14: 10 New
                  0
                  Bug victim of poop don't disappear.
                58. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 31 August 2020 20: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Bug victim of poop don't disappear.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  By the way, I am satisfied with the expected phenomenon of one more facet of your degrading personality. Keep up the good work! I'm looking forward to it.
                  laughing laughing laughing
                  Well done, obedient dog! wassat
                  Chew thoroughly, coprophage, coprodiet fan! wassat
                59. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 1 September 2020 00: 46 New
                  0
                  Once again, you have demonstrated your stupidity. Well done.
                60. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 1 September 2020 08: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Once again, you have demonstrated your stupidity. Well done.

                  Well done! Obedient dog! wassat
                  It is a pity, only that he is crazy and fancy. request
                  Chew, don't slurp. wassat
                61. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 1 September 2020 12: 23 New
                  0
                  Do you like poop? You relish them so much every time.
                62. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 1 September 2020 12: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Do you like poop? You relish them so much every time.

                  I am not too lazy to remind:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Well, deepen the depth of your "level", chew more feces and spit at me again.

                  Who is to blame that you got so involved that you began to swallow? belay With savoring, by the way. wassat I strongly suspect that you are also an active fan of urine therapy. It's not for nothing that it constantly rushes into your head. wassat Again, you rinse your mouth after your coprophagia. wassat
                  Bless the internet for not having to smell your mouth!
                  So go on! Try to chew the dog's, not yours. Maybe you'll be angry. wassat
                  I look forward to the result. wassat
                63. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 1 September 2020 17: 59 New
                  0
                  What else can you tell a stupid poop lover?
                64. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 1 September 2020 20: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  What else can you tell a stupid poop lover?

                  I see - I haven't found a dog and you still eat your own, so I haven't accumulated anger.request The result, as usual, is deplorable.wassat Okay. Then try asking the neighbors. They know you more and better than me, so they will gladly heap a couple of buckets for such an occasion.wassat Assorted, so to speak. For every taste. Do not deny yourself anything! wassat
                  And yes. Satisfied with your hysteria. © wassat
                65. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 1 September 2020 21: 18 New
                  0
                  You just overfulfilled the plan for shit today, don't choke.
                66. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 2 September 2020 21: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  You just overfulfilled the plan for shit today, don't choke.

                  Judging by your usual suck, it didn't grow well with the neighbors ...request
                  This is how you have to be a vile little man, so that good people regret a handful of poop for chewing! wassat It is clear why you mostly hang out on the Internet. In real life, they walk around you in eight steps. And the dukhan from you, again ... negative
                  But let's continue: come on, stink on! wassat
                  For now, despite your lethargy and primitiveness, I am satisfied with the course of your degradation. It's funny.wassat Go on. wassat
                67. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 2 September 2020 22: 10 New
                  0
                  Crawled out of the toilet? And I really thought you were carried away to the sump.
                68. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 2 September 2020 22: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Crawled out of the toilet? And I really thought you were carried away to the sump.

                  How did you know this word: "think"? It doesn't suit you at all! wassat
                  Just keep on stinking. wassat This is more in line with your essence! wassat
                  It's funny. laughing
                69. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 2 September 2020 22: 38 New
                  0
                  How wet, smelly and disheveled you are. You look pretty pathetic. And your whining screeches make you want to shoot you so that you don't suffer.
                70. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 3 September 2020 21: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  How wet, smelly and disheveled you are. You look pretty pathetic.

                  Che? Did you accidentally look in the mirror?wassat I agree - there is a dirty creature. laughing And about your dukhan, too, I will not argue that it is, that is. laughing
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  And your whining squeals

                  You have coprophagia and auditory glitches, however! laughing Well this is necessary - to read letters and hear sounds! wassat
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  the desire to shoot you so as not to suffer.

                  So what's the matter? Shoot yourself, do not suffer! wassat
                  But in fact: I'm satisfied with your hysteria!
                  Stink further, just try not to look in the mirror. wassat
                71. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 22: 00 New
                  -2
                  Fecaloid from September 3 you.
                72. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 3 September 2020 22: 20 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Fecaloid from September 3 you.

                  Something you are especially unconvincing today. wassat
                  And you forgot to write the second word - "congratulations". wassat
                  Apparently after September 1, I have not yet regained consciousness ... wassat
                  However, stink on! Make your uncle happy.wassat
                73. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 22: 27 New
                  -2
                  Decided to generate even more shit for joy? Be careful not to drown in it.
                74. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 3 September 2020 22: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  However, stink on! Make your uncle happy.

                  Obedient dog! wassat
                  And I don't need to generate anything if you do it yourself, chew it yourself, swallow it yourself. laughing And so in a circle. laughing Deftly got a job with waste-free production. wassat
                  Continue to please with your stupidity, obedient dog! wassat
                75. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 22: 41 New
                  0
                  Decided to break the record for shit generation?
                76. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 3 September 2020 23: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  And I don't need to generate anything if you do it yourself, chew it yourself, swallow it yourself.
                  wassat
                  It's fun to see how this topic turned you on. wassat
                  And yet I was right:
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Chewed poop, or rather spitting them, is your only communication style available to you.

                  laughing
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  The main thing is for you to finally understand that you are required to chew and spit poop, and not chew and swallow them. DO NOT SWALLOW, even to spite me!

                  laughing
                  But, nothing can be done, if you are so stubborn - swallow. request wassat Even to heartburn. laughing Obedient dog. laughing
                77. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 33 New
                  0
                  You can no longer be heard from under the thickness of your shit. ASTANAVIS!
                78. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 3 September 2020 23: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  But, nothing can be done, if you are so stubborn - swallow. Even to heartburn.
                  wassat
                  Can't sleep? Heartburn tortured? wassat
                  Okay. Smell still, obedient dog. wassat
                79. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 4 September 2020 20: 49 New
                  0
                  If you put on an astrakhan hat, you get a ram in an astrakhan hat.
                80. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 5 September 2020 19: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  If you put on an astrakhan hat, you get a ram in an astrakhan hat.

                  Haven't shot yourself yet? It is right! Who will please me with their wonderful stupidity? laughing Where did you lose the letter, by the way? It seems like you haven't seen anything like this before? laughing Failed to a new level, not otherwise! wassat
                  But you warned that
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Well, I still have a lot to degrade.
                  , I must admit! wassat From an ordinary stupid degradant to a convinced coprophage! wassat It's terribly interesting to what depths you can break through! wassat So keep going in the same foul-smelling spirit. wassat I look forward to! wassat
                81. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 20: 50 New
                  0
                  Cockroach continues to generate shit. So we will write it down.
                82. The comment was deleted.
                83. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 5 September 2020 20: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Cockroach continues

                  You are also an entomologist! How lovely! wassat Based on food addictions, I'm sure. wassat Are you eating insects too?wassat
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  generating shit

                  Found a letter? I took a sip of urine and what you call your "brains" cleared up. laughing
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  And I don't need to generate anything if you do it yourself, chew it yourself, swallow it yourself. And so in a circle.
                  wassat
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  So keep going in the same foul-smelling spirit. I'm looking forward to!

                  A good, obedient dog, you execute commands promptly! wassat Come on, the evening is long, please your uncle ... laughing
                84. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 21: 00 New
                  0
                  Cockroach continues to generate shit.
                85. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 5 September 2020 21: 01 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Cockroach continues to generate shit.

                  Well done dog! wassat Vote! wassat
                86. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 23: 23 New
                  0
                  Cockroach named Vasyan continues to generate shit. The amount is outrageous.
                87. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 7 September 2020 20: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Cockroach named Vasyan continues to generate shit.

                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  A good, obedient dog, you execute commands promptly!

                  You are also an entomologist! How lovely! wassat Based on food addictions, I'm sure. Are you eating insects too? wassat
                  And I don't need to generate anything if you do it yourself, chew it yourself, swallow it yourself. wassat
                  For degradants, I will repeat as much as required. laughing
  10. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 August 2020 17: 55 New
    0
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Poop is definitely your complex.

    Yes Yes Yes. laughing
    Stopped in here to see what smart people say and, oh God! Can not be! I can't believe my eyes! The ubiquitous coprophile was noted here! laughing
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Fuck this demagogic shit

    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Don't push this stupid shit to me ... and these corrections fucking shit

    You're right - it's time for you to get treatment! wassat
  • Crane
    Crane 9 August 2020 19: 13 New
    0
    Then it's better for sable ones - nobler.
    ================
    Then the sable will go to the enemy Alaska))
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 9 August 2020 18: 43 New
    +1
    Yes, a madhouse, of course, we are completely impoverished or what, to save on hats ?!
    Beautiful after all !!! good drinks
    Our General, when he served in the SA - finally! it was a masterpiece - it was a pleasure to see hi
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 August 2020 18: 57 New
      -4
      not hats, but hats) hats were removed back in 94)
      1. Mityasha
        Mityasha 10 August 2020 05: 35 New
        0
        Not your truth, hats were re-introduced somewhere in 2011-12 and canceled again after 4 years. There were astrakhan hats, after the final cancellation, Papakh Kuzhugetovich looked at the handle on the cap and rushed ...
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 9 August 2020 19: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Yes, a madhouse, of course, we are completely impoverished or what, to save on hats ?!

      I would never change my naval hat made of sheepskin and genuine leather for any astrakhan fur.
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 9 August 2020 18: 44 New
    +6
    we called these "the head of the brains out" laughing
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 9 August 2020 19: 08 New
      +7
      we called them "head brains out" laughing

      laughing
      Japanese hokku in the theme.

      Minus seventeen.
      The colonel is walking without a hat.
      Apparently, the brains are completely frostbitten ...
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 46 New
    +1
    Caps all .... the decree is signed! soldier
    Now only at night, closing the doors, lowering the curtains, secretly, like Stirlitz ...
    httpp: //publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202008090003
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 10 August 2020 18: 16 New
      -1
      Quote: RUnnm
      Now only at night, closing the doors, lowering the curtains, secretly, like Stirlitz
      Why, in a briefcase, you can wear it even during the day and at work.
  • Doctor
    Doctor 9 August 2020 18: 46 New
    15
    This is the end...
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 9 August 2020 18: 59 New
      11
      and so on an aircraft carrier of 70 tons of VI we will scrap
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 9 August 2020 19: 07 New
        12
        Quote: Arzt
        This is the end...

        Where's the gun ..?
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 9 August 2020 19: 14 New
          13
          Where's the gun ..?

          laughing
          To this topic...
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 9 August 2020 22: 19 New
          +2
          warm pollock back ............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .............................................
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 20: 03 New
        +2
        Two aircraft carriers .. Domestic.
      3. Alf
        Alf 9 August 2020 21: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: antivirus
        and so on an aircraft carrier of 70 tons of VI we will scrap

        And if we shake Serdyukov with his nipple, we'll get two.
  • Alexga
    Alexga 9 August 2020 18: 53 New
    14
    As in the Soviet Army they said: "They took off one ram and put on the other."
  • Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 9 August 2020 18: 54 New
    12
    Everything ... imitation of brains was left only to the courtiers laughing
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 55 New
    0
    The President decided to withdraw astrakhan hats from the list of military uniforms for senior officers of the Russian Armed Forces.

    I remember, under the tsarist regime, there was something like that with galoshes for senior officers ...
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 9 August 2020 22: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      something like that with galoshes for senior officers was

      It was allowed to wear, naval.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 10 August 2020 18: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        It was allowed to wear, naval.

        Yes? And I, like, heard that everyone from the colonel and above. At Pikul, it seems, in my youth I read in "I have the honor." Not karakUl, of course, but also status.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 9 August 2020 18: 55 New
    -1
    Why discuss? Especially in a military environment. The Commander-in-Chief ordered, the troops carried out. At least the lambs are safe, and gentlemen colonels with generals and without dads do not feel bad. laughing
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 9 August 2020 20: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Captive
      At least the lambs are safe

      Apparently the republics of Transcaucasia received a task to increase the number of small ruminants ... belay
      Now only horsemen will be prancing around the auls in cloaks and hats of the Ulevs ...
      Damn, anecdote, and more! laughing
    2. Alf
      Alf 9 August 2020 21: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Captive
      At least the lambs are safe

      Where will the FSO and the National Guard take karakul? Will the caps be grown in test tubes specifically for them?
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 9 August 2020 19: 02 New
    10
    They will spit me up, but the cancellation / introduction of astrakhan hats, cork helmets for generals is the main problem today? I don't like the whole form. Especially cockades / crabs.
    And the color in the figure is very controversial ... How will you look in the standard figure in the Crimean steppe, for example? In the month of August. Ankle boots would be good in assortment, for different climates and operating conditions ...
    This is what I would understand.
    1. Mordred79
      Mordred79 9 August 2020 22: 07 New
      +3
      Yes, in Crimea, even in the middle forest, the usual army figure in the sight looks like a dark spot. But cartoons / MTPs work great all year round
    2. Mityasha
      Mityasha 10 August 2020 05: 38 New
      -1
      For a long time, apparently, you were not interested in the form. So that you like it or not, you need to wear it ...
  • hydrox
    hydrox 9 August 2020 19: 05 New
    -1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    so they have been gone for a long time. there are HATS) changed to fur and refined sheepskin

    So let them wear it, but buy at their own expense (and sew also for family money) ...
  • Andrea
    Andrea 9 August 2020 19: 11 New
    0
    The status of senior officers has been downgraded. Why would that be?
    What is this, savings? Then you need a "warm cap on cotton wool ..." laughing .
    Again, karakul is purely forcing, it does not warm nifiga, fur will more reliably protect the gentle, precious general's brain. laughing
    By the way, I wonder what kind of fur is provided for in the decree, suddenly a chinchilla or "Shanghai leopard" laughing , then I got excited with the status.
    Well, if serious army clothing should be comfortable and practical, nothing more, even among the highest officers.
    1. Graz
      Graz 9 August 2020 19: 55 New
      0
      mexican jerboa
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 August 2020 19: 22 New
    0
    Fur hat in a set color with a visor
    ... I wonder how it looks ...
    1. Mityasha
      Mityasha 10 August 2020 05: 41 New
      0
      It's pathetic, this is a Kuzhugetich from his Emergencies Ministry, where the first fur hats with handles appeared with a fur visor. (I will not mention the fleet).
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 10 August 2020 12: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Mityasha
        It's pathetic, this is a Kuzhugetich from his Emergencies Ministry, where the first fur hats with handles appeared with a fur visor. (I will not mention the fleet).

        Caps with a visor were introduced back in the USSR. And here Kozhugetovich?
        1. Mityasha
          Mityasha 10 August 2020 13: 23 New
          0
          This is in the navy, and the Soviet army did not have them. Read the last 3 words in brackets carefully !!!
        2. Mityasha
          Mityasha 10 August 2020 13: 35 New
          0
          And here Kozhugetovich?
          Moreover, the sample below is his brainchild, and with a fur visor it looks wretched!
    2. Alex 2020
      Alex 2020 10 August 2020 07: 04 New
      0
      I don't think that
      will be very different ...
      1. Mityasha
        Mityasha 10 August 2020 10: 08 New
        0
        And why invent it, there is a sample, continue to sew it off, only the contract should be more expensive from the budget. I think this is what they will dress up for. All without visors, and from the colonel and above "peaky blinders" so that wet snow does not interfere with shooting and does not fall on eyelashes laughing
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 9 August 2020 19: 26 New
    +2
    The late father (and he was my officer) said about the headdresses of senior officers: - a ram climbed on his head :))
    By the way, I first saw hats with capraz caps and higher on an urgent one and ... I was surprised or something. In fact, it is both convenient (compared to a cap) and a trump card (compared to an officer's winter hat).
  • certero
    certero 9 August 2020 19: 31 New
    -1
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Karakul warms better

    Karakul does not heat at all.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 9 August 2020 19: 33 New
    0
    YO-MY! They needed hats! And so they have already lost so much beauty! Just look!
  • Charik
    Charik 9 August 2020 19: 41 New
    -3
    he now forbids wearing hats wassat
    1. Charik
      Charik 9 August 2020 21: 16 New
      -1
      Putin's licks
  • iouris
    iouris 9 August 2020 19: 43 New
    0
    And the gold stars and crocodile leather belts ?!
  • Fierce73
    Fierce73 9 August 2020 19: 45 New
    +6
    I cannot but recall an old army anecdote in this regard: a colonel addresses in writing to the USSR Minister of Defense "Comrade Minister, we are colonels, we differ from ordinary officers in winter thanks to hats, but in the summer there is no such significant difference and something must be done about it!" " The Minister of Defense read and imposed a resolution: "This idiot will wear a hat in summer too!"
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 9 August 2020 19: 51 New
    +6
    will cost the budget significantly less.

    Saving on matches. What is taken away in heaps - you cannot collect in crumbs.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 9 August 2020 20: 11 New
    0
    Shaw again ?! (from.)
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 August 2020 20: 15 New
    +2
    will cost the budget significantly less.
    It's strange, but here they say all the time that we live better and better, that the economy is booming. Nevertheless, even the most uneducated citizens understand that a new wave of muzzle fines is just a simple squeeze of money into the budget.
    So everything is simple here, no politics, no money, walk around without a cakula.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 9 August 2020 20: 18 New
    0
    I do not know how, but wherever Generalissimo Suvorov is depicted, he is without a headdress.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 9 August 2020 21: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      I do not know how, but wherever Generalissimo Suvorov is depicted, he is without a headdress.

      Well, the explanation is simple. There are not many paintings of Alexander Vasilyevich during his lifetime, and photography will be invented 30-40 years after his death.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 9 August 2020 20: 21 New
    0
    what will everyone now be allocated on the cap of Monomakh?
    Okay, maybe we will compensate for the abolition of karakul, we will renew the permission to wear galoshes, as in the days of the Tsar-Amperator.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 9 August 2020 20: 23 New
    +1
    Budenovkas will be returned to everyone, and the whole thing will not last long.
  • Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 9 August 2020 20: 24 New
    0
    The game is not worth the candle, and this event is not worth discussing, especially since I personally never liked all these curls on hats or hats, and the hat itself, some kind of outdated ridiculous headdress for the modern army, is a complete anachronism.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 9 August 2020 20: 27 New
    0
    81 !!!!!! comment on almost zero news .... I'm shocked to be honest.
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan 9 August 2020 20: 40 New
    +8
    Well, tell a fairy tale that the GDP is military. First, daggers from naval officers, then hats from senior officers. Economically impractical.
    One word from the director of the house of culture.
  • zenion
    zenion 9 August 2020 20: 54 New
    +1
    We must give the friend to earn.
  • BAI
    BAI 9 August 2020 20: 57 New
    0
    We must also cancel the 2-BASED WAGON, the horse and the checker. They say these norms are still in effect.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 9 August 2020 20: 58 New
    -4
    Here the trolls are gone ... you care, you still don’t wear papas, just to throw shit on the fan. On the other hand, it is very easy to carry out an analysis, I think a couple of Ukrainian addresses are pouring slop.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 August 2020 21: 11 New
    0
    In the 60s-70s of the last century, orders for changes in uniforms were signed by the Minister of Defense.
    So, in August 2018, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation declassified order of the Minister of Defense of the USSR No. 191 of July 26, 1969, personally signed by Marshal of the Soviet Union A. Grechko. The order introduced a distinctive element of the military uniform of paratroopers: “In the airborne troops it is allowed to wear…. takes blue ... ".
    Apparently, before the order was declassified, the Ministry of Defense believed that the enemies still think that the paratroopers wear a cap, like Oleg Popov's.
    I can assume that the young people on the site do not know who he is and what Oleg Popov looked like.
    1. Sanya Terek
      Sanya Terek 9 August 2020 22: 30 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      ... in August 2018, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation declassified order of the Minister of Defense of the USSR No. 191 of July 26, 1969, personally signed by Marshal of the Soviet Union A. Grechko. The order introduced a distinctive element of the military uniform of paratroopers: “In the airborne troops it is allowed to wear…. takes blue ... ".
      Apparently, before the order was declassified, the Ministry of Defense believed that the enemies still think that the paratroopers wear a cap, like Oleg Popov's ...

      What are you talking about? Secret orders in the Armed Forces begin with "0", for example, order number 010. And the aforementioned drawings from the order number 191 you mentioned, I looked at as a green kid (my friend's father was an officer).
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 9 August 2020 22: 59 New
        0
        Dear namesake, let's be mutually polite.
        So, for your attention, a quote from the site tvzvezda.ru:
        The website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published unique declassified documents from the funds of the Central Archives of the Russian Ministry of Defensededicated to the birth of the Airborne Forces, the first pages of the combat annals of the Winged Infantry, their legendary commander Vasily Filippovich Margelov, as well as the history of the appearance of the symbols of the troops - the blue beret and the airborne arm insignia ...


        And this is a link to those same declassified documents, incl. on the order of the Minister of Defense of the USSR No. 191 of July 26, 1969 "On the introduction of the rules for wearing military uniforms by servicemen of the Soviet Army and Navy" Excerpts from the Rules in the part concerning the form of the Airborne Forces.
        http://winged-infantry.mil.ru/
        hi
  • Radikal
    Radikal 9 August 2020 21: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: sniperino
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Quote: hydrox
    What do you want from liberda?

    what does liberda or economics have to do with it? imagine a drone automatically tuned to the astrakhan hat, it can easily track down and destroy the general
    In Israel, in order to save officers in general, a minimum of differences in uniform, nothing, they somehow distinguish, they cope with subordination.

    Well, in a war zone, or - in a warring region, this is probably justified, the history of past and current conflicts testifies to this. bully
  • basal
    basal 9 August 2020 21: 22 New
    +2
    Saving on hats? Seriously? And how much did you save? Does anyone really believe that generals in the warehouse are queuing up to receive scarce hats? General, this is not a title - this is happiness !!!
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 9 August 2020 21: 41 New
    +2
    Even 30 years ago, cadets at the flight school laughed at this topic:
    "The Ministry of Defense has decided to abolish the wearing of karakul by the higher officers, since it is unprofitable to remove the skin from some bapans and put it on others."
    laughing
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 9 August 2020 23: 19 New
      0
      Good humor!
      Well, aviators have always had real life examples ...
  • Azis
    Azis 9 August 2020 21: 42 New
    +3
    And how is Zhirinovsky now? Will you freeze? Remember this rhyme: "Where are you taking me, karakulev hat? ..." Recently someone already wrote about the stars in the jewelry. There are some, like lapel signs, I saw today, in addition, they accept orders for gold sewing of all kinds of chevrons, etc. according to the established samples. So there is demand, even in our backwoods. For example, policemen in indian tailoring are scared as they can - a leather jacket on a fur lining with a fur collar, everything is natural, and even leather is chosen (well, at least not human), since compensation for tailoring is imposed (for those who can get it, but many do not need it). Now there will be a new trend in fur salons - a "statutory winter hat with a visor", made of fur (and then - for money and show-offs) - marten, ferret, arctic fox, sable, ermine, fox, mink, muskrat, white bear (generals from edra), brown bear, grizzly bear, koala, alpaca, etc ... except for karakul. And why did the Russian Guard and the FSO not cancel and introduce hats made of wolf (options are possible) and dog skins?
  • LAUGH
    LAUGH 9 August 2020 21: 58 New
    0
    Almost saved)
  • Radikal
    Radikal 9 August 2020 22: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Mordred79
    Yes, in Crimea, even in the middle forest, the usual army figure in the sight looks like a dark spot. But cartoons / MTPs work great all year round

    Should we be happy for you? winked
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 9 August 2020 23: 16 New
      +2
      Is this the level of the president ?!
  • NordUral
    NordUral 9 August 2020 22: 14 New
    +2
    Nothing more to do?
  • Radikal
    Radikal 9 August 2020 22: 18 New
    +2
    The decree of President Putin on the abolition of the use of astrakhan hats by senior officers of the RF Armed Forces is being discussed

    Maybe it's more constructive, more economical, more practical, damn it, yeah - it's fairer to slap the decree on the abolition of the use of mineral resources and other riches of Russia by senior ... friend-managers of the VGK? winked lol
    This is a very philosophical question. yes
    P.S. Khabarovsk answered ....
  • Turist1996
    Turist1996 9 August 2020 23: 15 New
    0
    Well, now that's for sure - "it"!
    Scribe and construction to all staff:
    "Karakul hats canceled!"
  • Radikal
    Radikal 9 August 2020 23: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Turist1996
    Well, now that's for sure - "it"!
    Scribe and construction to all staff:
    "Karakul hats canceled!"

    Hats - take off! lol