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EU ready to respond to US sanctions against Nord Stream 2

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The European Union has something to respond to the sanctions imposed by the Americans on Nord Stream 2. As part of a strategy to counter pressure from the United States, the Europeans are developing a document called the Communiqué on Measures of EU Financial and Economic Sovereignty.


About this in interview the information agency "Interfax" was told by the Ambassador of the European Union to Russia Markus Ederer.

It is assumed that the development of the document will be completed by the end of the year, after which it will be made public. Among other things, the "Communiqué" will contain a strategy for the use of a "enhanced sanctions mechanism", which can increase the European Union's resistance to pressure from third countries.

It is easy to guess that the "third countries" mean primarily the United States, which has increased its pressure on its European partners. First of all, this concerns Washington's threats to apply extraterritorial sanctions against the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline under construction.

Let us remind you that the United States is exerting open pressure on European companies involved in the implementation of a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, which runs along the bottom of the Baltic. Among other things, Washington, threatening with sanctions, has effectively blocked the use of Allseas pipe-laying ships. Russian pipe-laying vessels have not yet begun the process of completing the pipeline construction either.

Among other things, the EU Ambassador discussed other issues with Russian journalists. In particular, the conversation touched upon human rights in the Russian Federation, the future of relations between Russia and the European Union and the prospects for opening European borders for the citizens of our country.
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 August 2020 17: 36
    10
    I don’t believe in euro attempts .... They will not go against the states.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 9 August 2020 17: 47
      +9
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I don’t believe in euro attempts .... They will not go against the states.

      They can go ... But they will not reach the end.
      Democracy fosters a tendency to compromise (but in fact - conformism, betrayal and not bringing things to an end)
      1. For example
        For example 9 August 2020 19: 02
        +1
        Now, if the EU is bent and Gazprom is left with a pipe buried in the depths of the sea ... winked

        Will this event force Gazprom to start gasifying the Russians?

        Or will this event lead to a stupid increase in tariffs for everything?

        Great top managers, people-gods, what will they do?
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 9 August 2020 20: 01
          +4
          Gazprom's interests are extremely simple - the export of raw materials outside the Russian Federation. What will happen to the Russian Federation itself Gazprom is only interested in terms of how smooth this process will be .... and nothing more ... This is how the business system in Russia works.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 August 2020 01: 29
            +1
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Gazprom's interests are extremely simple - the export of raw materials outside the Russian Federation. What will happen to the Russian Federation itself Gazprom is only interested in terms of how smooth this process will be .... and nothing more ... This is how the business system in Russia works.

            I understand that you and I did not create the system. The system works stably in one direction - showering money to real estate dealers in warm seas. And even if any of the top managers thought about Russia ... They raised in the wrong place Chicks of Sorosov's nest - shoot on takeoff ...
          2. Senka naughty
            Senka naughty 10 August 2020 08: 35
            0
            What will happen to the Russian Federation itself Gazprom is only interested in how smooth this process will be ... and nothing more ...

            Your opinion is shared by everyone except the United States, which is most of all hindering the export of raw materials from Russia. It is not clear who is acting and in whose interests. Or are you lying or?
      2. vVvAD
        vVvAD 9 August 2020 20: 59
        +3
        In Europe, a leader of de Gaulle's scale has yet to emerge to challenge US tutelage.
        And the conditions are inappropriate - everything did not go so far as to destroy all the built-up interaction in the economy, politics, military-technical cooperation, security and culture - after the spy scandal over the wiretapping of EU leaders by the United States, they got lost.
        They may take some measures, but after the exchange of sanctions, both sides will try to agree
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 August 2020 17: 49
      +4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I don’t believe in euro attempts .... They will not go against the states.

      True, only attempts, but not a virtual European Union, but specifically the FRG.

      Germany, alone (after all, it is she who is most interested in Russian gas), is not able to effectively resist the United States ...
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 9 August 2020 18: 09
      +9
      A year ago, it was hard to believe that such attempts were possible at all. Let's take a look. hi
    4. RUnnm
      RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 13
      +4
      The fact is that there is one nuance here - MONEY !!! Direct deliveries will be extremely beneficial for old Europe, and it may well turn out that your pocket will be much dearer and closer. For they understand that the United States will then bend them further, and in tandem with Russia, they may not be afraid that we will start to kick them
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 August 2020 18: 53
        +1
        But each particular government separately depends on the United States and is more / less loyal ... and the decision is collegial. There is a competition for the influence of Germany and the United States on the EU member states and the European Commission.
    5. Subtext
      Subtext 9 August 2020 19: 14
      +2
      Winter 2020-2021 will be creepy ...
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 9 August 2020 19: 24
      0
      This must be done before the end of the month and not the year, as they say yesterday)
    7. Andobor
      Andobor 9 August 2020 19: 59
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They won't go against the states.

      Why not go against them, when the Americans "missed everything."
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 August 2020 20: 02
        +2
        The elites are nourished and trained by them ..
        1. Andobor
          Andobor 9 August 2020 20: 14
          +1
          Quote: Zaurbek
          The elites are nourished and trained by them ..

          That is why they will get rid of them at the first opportunity - very much the Germans "love" Americans.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 9 August 2020 20: 42
          +1
          Quote: Zaurbek
          The elites are nourished and trained by them ..

          Well, not everyone in Europe is collaborators! There are those who are for their own pocket and nat. interests are taken care of. Such national leaders are called ...
          And Madame Chancellor has nowhere to retreat: behind the energy deadlock and LNG from the Yankees is 30% more expensive than ours, natural, from SP-2. If it bends under the states, then the German industrialists will tear it apart like Bobby a heating pad.
    8. iouris
      iouris 10 August 2020 00: 32
      0
      Nobody is pushing. The "Muscovites" swear by the desire to finally leave for the "European expanses" from stale Moscow to reunite with what "was acquired by back-breaking labor."
    9. Alber alber
      Alber alber 10 August 2020 00: 47
      0
      It already happened, pipes to the Oomen for gas and then the dependence of the Fritzes was an order of magnitude higher, and the US president was almost a god for the FRG, now blm, Trump hates an angel, a lot of big business invested in the pipe and everything is possible
  2. Proton
    Proton 9 August 2020 17: 45
    -2
    Circus and only laughing
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 9 August 2020 17: 51
      +3
      I remembered about human rights ... yes yes ... the rights of queers and queers above all.
  3. Well done
    Well done 9 August 2020 17: 47
    +1
    Attempts before the end of the year, and that may be. Oh well. They wouldn't be disgraced. Euro bureaucrats! (grunts)
  4. IC
    IC 9 August 2020 17: 50
    -6
    If JV 2 is not implemented, only Russia will suffer because of the ill-considered policy of the state and Gazprom. Germany can easily do without him. Well, the costs will rise somewhat. This is not a reason to escalate economic relations with the United States. US policy, of course, is silly and ridiculous in terms of wires and methods of competition. In the old days, this led to the escalation of economic conflicts into military ones.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 August 2020 18: 06
      +1
      Yes, Russia will suffer, German goods will become more expensive ... But we will buy ..
    2. snucerist
      snucerist 9 August 2020 18: 12
      -1
      All true.
      Germany today is doing just fine without SP-2 and does not feel a shortage of gas.
      It is a different matter to have the status of a gas hub in Europe, the ability to regulate and redistribute gas flows to the EU and get gesheft from this. That is why some of the German businessmen got into SP-2.
      But it didn't work out. At least for the moment.
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 17
        +2
        Nothing like this! The prime cost of gas for sp2 will be much lower due to the absence of transit fees. And this means, first of all, a decrease in production costs and an increase in the profits of German companies!
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 9 August 2020 20: 31
          0
          Quote: RUnnm
          The prime cost of gas for sp2 will be much lower due to the absence of transit fees.

          Will the stream pump the tunnels for free? The cost of transportation there will be ± comparable to transit through "non-brothers", it's just a way to avoid all these political difficulties.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: snucerist
        Germany today is doing just fine without SP-2 and does not feel a shortage of gas.

        Kaneshna! And for the second time, by the way, all this boo-boo was started by someone just like that.
        Quote: snucerist
        Some German businessmen will lose part of the advances invested in the project? Who is their doctor? These businessmen?

        Exactly! It's easy to count other people's money!
    3. RUnnm
      RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 15
      +1
      Calm down? Are you seriously ? Having lost the advances of all companies to the project, and this is tens of billions of dollars, and losing competitive advantages in relation to their entire economy? Well, no need to portray Germany as some kind of benefactors. They need sp2 as much as Russia
      1. snucerist
        snucerist 9 August 2020 18: 35
        -1
        Absolutely seriously.
        Some German businessmen will lose part of the advances invested in the project? Who is their doctor? These businessmen? Are they their first day in business? Didn't they know that big business is always a risk? None of the analysts calculated the possibility of imposing American sanctions on their content?
        Common sense and cold calculation will always prevail. As soon as the same German businessman sees that his personal financial losses from US sanctions exceed the money invested in the project, he will back down. Or does anyone doubt that the States will press to the end?
        Then that apart from one part of the German business lobbying for SP-2, there is no other in Germany? Third? Fourth? For whom it is extremely unprofitable to quarrel with the United States? No need to explain how many financial transactions are tied to American banks and American money? And how quickly can the financial reputation of any company in the world be nullified?
        Or do you think that Merkel will follow only the SP-2 shareholders? What for? The Chancellor will have to maneuver, look for the best way out of the current situation.
        SP-2 Germany is only needed to acquire the status of a gas hub in Europe. For nothing else. I repeat: there is no shortage of gas or oil either in Germany or in Europe today. And it is not expected. Even without SP-2. On the contrary, the market for the supply of hydrocarbons is only expanding, the demand for them, on the contrary, falls along with the price.
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 9 August 2020 18: 38
          +4
          Stop bringing everything to the hub !!! The main interest of Germany is to reduce the cost of production, and, therefore, to increase the competitiveness of the economy against the backdrop of confrontation with Asia.
          And you didn't fully understand the meaning of the hub - it's not money, it's an INFLUENCE on other countries. And if it seems to you that the loss of all this for Germany is nothing, then you are sooooo wrong.
          1. snucerist
            snucerist 9 August 2020 19: 12
            -1
            Is that so?
            "... increasing the competitiveness of the economy against the backdrop of confrontation with Asia," mean?
            Who told you that gas from Russia to Asia will go at a more expensive price? Do you even know at what price Russia sells gas to China? Where is the financial calculation of the Power of Siberia? I've been unsuccessfully looking for specific numbers, for some reason there are none. Instead of them, our attention is offered some incomprehensible formulas. I'll tell you now: Russia sells gas to China at a loss. Who will refute me and on what basis?
            As for the cost reduction, this is exactly what China took long ago. It is thanks to this factor that China today shares the first places in the world economy with the United States, leaving Germany behind. And no attempts will change this state of affairs.
            In fact, the hub makes it possible to increase the percentage of both profit and influence. Stati, it is this last factor that the United States takes into account, imposing sanctions on the SP-2. This is also why the fate of SP-2 is extremely uncertain. To say the least.
            The diversification of hydrocarbon supplies to Europe is expanding, the demand for them is falling due to the pandemic, and the forecast for the future regarding the virus, by the way, is disappointing. Is SP-2 really necessary in Europe at this time? The answer is obvious.
            Germany? Yes, this is a different matter, here there is an estimated profit. But then she found a scythe on a stone. Moreover, both Democrats and Republicans are extremely aggressive towards SP-2. Whoever takes the Oval Office in November will not help the project.
    4. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 43
      0
      Quote: IMS
      Germany can easily do without him.

      Here, just like that and "calmly"? wassat
    5. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 August 2020 20: 04
      +2
      For Germany, this is just a slightly or less profitable project .... for the Russian Federation, a strategic issue.
      Plays into our hands
      Only the abandonment of coal and nuclear power plants in Germany
      1. Andobor
        Andobor 9 August 2020 20: 25
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        For Germany, this is just a slightly or less profitable project .... for the Russian Federation, a strategic issue.

        For Germany, this is a matter of life and death, the competitiveness of the economy, or do you think they are so grasping the stream out of love for Russia?
    6. Andobor
      Andobor 9 August 2020 20: 11
      0
      Quote: IMS
      only Russia will suffer

      Russia does not lose anything, we will sell it to China, and Germany will lose the competitiveness of all its products, or do you think they grabbed the Potok because of their love for Russia?
  5. codetalker
    codetalker 9 August 2020 17: 54
    +1
    Are the Germans on the way to sovereignty?) And Trump is taking the soldiers out. By the way, whose agent he is there :)
    1. snucerist
      snucerist 9 August 2020 18: 05
      -5
      Well, yes.
      He will bring him out of Germany - he will bring him to Poland.
      Is Russia more comfortable with this?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 August 2020 18: 23
        +2
        Quote: snucerist
        He will bring him out of Germany - he will bring him to Poland.

        Poland is not Germany.
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 9 August 2020 18: 41
          -3
          True, Poland is closer to Russia. And he would not mind building more American bases on its territory. We are in the know.
          The question remains - is Russia more comfortable with this? What to be happy about?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 9 August 2020 19: 23
            0
            Quote: snucerist
            True, Poland is closer to Russia.

            I'm not talking about distance, but about the "weight of the country." Germany, despite defeats in WWI and WWII, remains one of the strongest in Europe, but Poland ... This is Poland.
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 9 August 2020 18: 30
        +2
        I'm talking about Germany. The Germans are more comfortable.
      3. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 August 2020 20: 05
        -1
        Germany is already the rear of NATO. A different NATO infrastructure is needed there.
  6. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 9 August 2020 18: 04
    0
    Is that .. The United States wants to expel from NATO and take Russia in its place.
    What a laugh it will be when, instead of 12 thousand Americans, Brussels will place 12 thousand Russians in Poland. laughing
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 36
      0
      Quote: Ruswolf
      What a laugh it will be when, instead of 12 thousand Americans, Brussels will place 12 thousand Russians in Poland.

      The flower beds are in order, they will definitely be!
  7. oldzek
    oldzek 9 August 2020 18: 05
    +2
    and I believed and still believe that Washington's sanctions are not so much against Russia as against Europe as a whole.
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 August 2020 18: 27
      +2
      They got it too ...
  8. askort154
    askort154 9 August 2020 18: 19
    +1
    As part of a strategy to counter pressure from the United States, the Europeans are developing a document called the Communiqué on Measures of EU Financial and Economic Sovereignty.


    Just started to "develop"! But given the fact that the EU includes Estonia,
    then this document will be born - well, oh ... o..o ..cheng to.l.go.
  9. cniza
    cniza 9 August 2020 18: 24
    +1
    It is assumed that the development of the document will be completed by the end of the year, after which it will be made public.


    Slowly, very slowly ...
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 August 2020 18: 24
    +1
    That the US Embassy has left? laughing
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 34
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      That the US Embassy has left? laughing

      Locked out from macaronavirus, they don't stick out their nose ... wassat
  11. Sobol
    Sobol 9 August 2020 18: 25
    +1
    As a result, restrictions against Russia will again be extended. All this noise doesn't even deserve any attention.
  12. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 9 August 2020 18: 33
    -1
    Europeans are drafting a document called the Communiqué on Measures of EU Financial and Economic Sovereignty.

    It is assumed that the development of the document will be completed by the end of the year, after which it will be made public.

    Nude nude. Let's see if there are enough relics ...
  13. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 9 August 2020 18: 43
    0
    EU unity is as problematic as Kolobok's successful escape from the stove. Taking into account the principles of making common decisions, the diversity of national interests and the corresponding orientation towards the United States, it may not come from "ready" to "accepted"!
  14. AML
    AML 9 August 2020 18: 58
    -2
    Quote: Zaurbek
    I don’t believe in euro attempts .... They will not go against the states.

    Why not? While there is confusion and vacillation in the United States, you can try. In the worst case, they will say that the Russians are to blame. In the top, they will get even for dieselgate and banks, and for a lot more.
  15. dgonni
    dgonni 9 August 2020 19: 24
    +1
    They don’t wave their fists after the fight!
    In this whole story, I am simply amazed at the level of planning and competence of the Gazprom management!
    SP-2 was not planned yesterday or in 2016. In 2014, it was already clear that the sanctions would last. In fact, there are no pipelayers of our own. Those that are for the given depths and diameters do not dance or dance with re-equipment. Well, order a fast universal pipelayer back in 2014 for your Chinese brothers. Bring it to the Baltic Sea and let all the involved Swedes with Danes and Deutsches examine and certify it. Get permission. This is all in time for the end of 2017 and would have worked. Then the sanctions letter that drove the Swiss would not have had such catastrophic consequences for the pipeline.
    But no, none of this was done. But prizes and bonuses at the end of 2019 have been received.
    Quire.
  16. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 9 August 2020 19: 24
    +1
    "Communiqué on measures of EU financial and economic sovereignty."
    The communique is just a communique. I distribute such communiqués at work every day.
    "It is assumed that the development of the document will be completed by the end of the year, after which it will be made public."
    It was necessary six months ago.
    Nothing interesting. Most likely, the parties exchanged views ...
  17. Andobor
    Andobor 9 August 2020 19: 55
    0
    Yes, as soon as the States weakened, and the voice of the allies began to cut through.
  18. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 9 August 2020 20: 17
    0
    46 million tons of capacity of liquefied natural gas plants in the US. China stumbles, buys but I can't. In June, I bought more from us. Warren Buffett has entered the domestic market for now, while not looking abroad, but this is for now. So Europe, the US will They will press to the last. They will find some kind of compressor. Europe will buy gas from the Northern Streams and liquid from the USA and Novotek with its cheapest gas will not be left behind. There Qatar is plotting a revolution in liquefied gas. One contract with China for the construction of an armada of gas carriers is worth it. will be everything.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 9 August 2020 20: 43
    +1
    Most likely, the EU will fail! It's all very simple why they forgot so quickly about Snowden, but because the Americans have terabytes of compromising evidence on every politician from the EU. There is no one to lead the resistance.
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 9 August 2020 20: 58
    0
    So we'll see what kind of communiqué they get.
  21. Klingon
    Klingon 10 August 2020 00: 28
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: Zaurbek
    The elites are nourished and trained by them ..

    Well, not everyone in Europe is collaborators! There are those who are for their own pocket and nat. interests are taken care of. Such national leaders are called ...
    And Madame Chancellor has nowhere to retreat: behind the energy deadlock and LNG from the Yankees is 30% more expensive than ours, natural, from SP-2. If it bends under the states, then the German industrialists will tear it apart like Bobby a heating pad.

    not only industrialists but also ordinary consumers, since 50% of apartments in Germany (especially old buildings) are heated with gas boilers