Military Correspondent Alexander Sladkov talks about the ongoing processes in Donbass these days

In connection with the "comprehensive ceasefire" announced in late July in Donbass, questions arise about how this ceasefire is observed by the parties to the conflict. Sometimes there are materials in the press that shooting was heard at a certain section of the contact line. Shooting is prohibited, and representatives of the OSCE monitoring mission, as well as members of the JCCC, must monitor the observance of the ceasefire.

The material of the war correspondent Alexander Sladkov tells about what is happening in the Donbass these days. Alexander notes the change of the Ukrainian representative in the Trilateral Contact Group. Recall that instead of Leonid Kuchma, Ukraine is represented by the country's first president, Leonid Kravchuk. In Donbass itself, they are not sure that anything will change after such a reshuffle of the composition of the contact group on the Ukrainian side.

Alexander Sladkov:

Who will ask Leonid Kravchuk? Zelensky? I do not think that this is such a factor that will put pressure on the monster of the Ukrainian past politics. I talked with Denis Pushilin. According to him, the Ukrainian side will still try to either delay or not fulfill the things related to the Minsk agreements.

About how the situation is perceived today in Donbass, and about the ongoing processes themselves - from the military commander Alexander Sladkov:

Comments

[Poetry]

The same horseradish, only in the left hand. The same eggs, side view.

[fn34440]

Sho Kuchma, sho Kravchuk - two pair of boots.
In general, judging by his idle talk, Kravchuk has senile dementia on Russian TV broadcasts.
They have no decision-making rights, signature rights.
Why does a lyad sit at the same table with them?
Need kakl at the level of the staff, at least, the deputy minister of UkroMID.

[antivirus]

the main question is not about the Donbass - what to do with the Cherkasy and Kyevsk regions?

[Lech from Android.]

Again, all over again ... it is impossible to resolve this conflict while the Bandera and the CIA are in power.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Again all over again... this conflict cannot be resolved while the Bandera and CIA men are in power.

So what to do ? We'll have to walk on a rake, who themselves allowed the Banderaites to be scattered without finally decidingthe Ukrainian question"in 2014 ...

[RUnnm]

I understand that these words will be "minus", but ... until Russia, regardless of any sanctions, annexes the LPNR, until then we will be responsible for the fact that these people believed in us, and we betrayed them. For every life of a child who died in Donetsk ...
Together we will endure any problems, sanctions, difficulties. We will definitely hold out. But having betrayed their brothers, who will then believe us.

[svan26]

It is a difficult task to “digest” a mentally different, densely populated territory. With Crimea, which is much more Russian, not everything works out. It takes time. And money.
Joining won't solve anything. And so the territory on the budget of the Russian Federation. I think that the gradual Russification and switching of the economy to the Russian Federation, in five to ten years, will resolve the issue of accession, in fact.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: svan26

It is a difficult task to “digest” a mentally different, densely populated territory. With Crimea, which is much more Russian, not everything works out.

Mentally, Crimea and Donbass may be more Russian than Moscow ... The main thing for people is a job that is normally paid. Roads, and so on, this is attached to people working for a normal salary. No one asks for handouts.

[svan26]

This is the whole point! Work for a normal salary. From the RF budget? The economy is absent. It needs to be built.

[Insurgent]

Quote: svan26

The economy is absent. It needs to be built.

You are wrong. In some cases, of course, the economy needs to be revived, but in most cases, it's just enough restart.

[svan26]

Economy is when buyers pay money for a product being produced. Such that there is enough for the purchase of materials, payment for energy resources, decent wages for workers, the development of fixed assets. Is it there now? Where to restart ?!

[Insurgent]

Quote: svan26

Economy is when buyers pay money for a product being produced. Such that there is enough for the purchase of materials, payment for energy resources, decent wages for workers, the development of fixed assets. Is it there now?

Is there no market for products in Russia? Take the Stirol, the largest chemical plant in Gorlovka in Europe, as an example, which was practically untouched by the war (for a number of complex reasons) and is capable of producing both chemical raw materials and a whole range of medicines.

Start up and work! Here are just a "catch" - the war must end.

And you, in fact, with a generally correct view of the economic process, missed the factor of war.

[Cristall]

Quote: Insurgent

Take as an example the Stirol chemical plant, the largest in Europe, Gorlovka chemical plant, practically untouched by the war (for a number of complex reasons) and capable of producing both chemical raw materials and a whole range of medicines.

wonderful products (the buyer of their vitamins himself until 2014)
But there are completely empty ammonia storages. Now belongs to the "ministry"
everything is completely stopped
Sales market-Ukraine. Nobody will give the right to trade in the gray zone in Ukraine.
You cannot buy raw materials (gray zone) Otherwise it will be more expensive. And this is competitiveness.
Yes, and the enterprise was taken away from the owner (I myself do not like Firtash, but this is his)
In total, the enterprise was taken away, and it is impossible to adjust to the previous volumes without Ukraine and the owner
The plant itself belongs to the company of the same name.
The Stirol Concern supplies the market with 3% of the world export of ammonia and urea, polymeric materials and products from them.
OSTCHEM is a holding that unites enterprises for the production of nitrogen fertilizers: PJSC Concern Stirol (Gorlovka, Donetsk region), PJSC Azot [uk] (Cherkassy), PJSC Rivneazot (Rovno), PrJSC "Severodonetsk Azot Association" (Severodonetsk, Luhansk region).
only the largest plant does not work in the gray zone.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: svan26

I think that the gradual Russification and switching of the economy to the Russian Federation

And who to Russify? During the entire existence of the Ukrainian SSR and the Outskirts, in the territories of Donbass, it did not work to "Ukrainize" the population!

[svan26]

Unfortunately, how it happened. Anything under thirty. And this is a given.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: svan26

Unfortunately, how it happened. Anything under thirty. And this is a given.

Sorry, but you're talking nonsense! Do not believe me, ask those who live there or have been there. Better yet, go to the DLNR, the border is open for Russians, and urgently inform the whole world that the Ukrainian language is widely used in the DLNR, especially among young people. In the Kuban, you will hear much more southern Ukrainian, although mostly Ukrainian, almost everyone knows there. It has always been the second compulsory in the east of Ukraine, after Russian. In my hometown with 16 schools, there was only one school, where, since the late 90s, there was one Ukrainian class, which taught in the Ukrainian language! I spent my youth there, I visit at least once a month, since my parents and relatives still live there.

[RUnnm]

The main thing is the lives and future of people who believe in us. And I agree with the opinion from the next comment (you can't say better) - these people are already more Russians than many from the Russian Federation.

[svan26]

Understanding where I'm from, I'm sorry. I didn't write anything about the language. Ukrainians are a special product. Mentally. They all speak Russian. And my great personal experience of communicating in the labor market with candidates from this region, says that there are peculiarities.
Building such relationships so that people in Donbas Earn and not receive a good salary is much more difficult than joining the region to the RF budget. And it takes time, patience and a lot of money. I mean it. By the way, originally from Volyn.

[Seregarodionov]

with Chechnya "digest" turned out, but with the Slavs will not work?

[tech3030]

We did not betray but the supreme power, these are different things!

[Free wind]

A.V. Sladkov is a good journalist, and he does not particularly care about his political views. Only now it is clear that neither the one nor the other side want peace. We felt the smell of strength, power, blood. From the comments on the VO, this is understandable. Alas, sorry.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Free Wind

Alas, sorry.

Of course we will forgive, because it is difficult for you to judge the course of the conflict between the DPR and LPR and the Outskirts without knowing all the subtleties ...

Quote: Free Wind

it is clear that the world does not want, neither the one nor the other side. We felt the smell of strength, power, blood. From the comments on the VO, this is understandable.

Comments are very diverse, so I will express my personal opinion - The war will go on until the last Ukrainian occupier gets back into his banderostan.

We do not need someone else, but we will not give up our own. We left the former Ukraine in May 2014 as integral territories, and we should remain such.

And no "the smell of strength, power, blood"it has nothing to do with it ...

[Cristall]

Quote: Insurgent

We don't need someone else, but we won't give ours

Yes, they are the same. And notice 2/3 of the regions won back and they do not regret it and do not want to come to you.

Quote: Insurgent

And no "smell of strength, power, blood" has anything to do with it ...

you want 2/3 of the territories who no longer want to join you and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not give up And APU 1/3 controlled by you. And you won't give it back either.
A difficult question .... in such a situation where everyone is wrong, usually the winner is right. Until then. Everyone is wrong.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Cristall

you want 2/3 of the territories who no longer want to join you

How do you know this?

Quote: Cristall

and the APU will not be given back

Will be able, "do not give"?

Quote: Cristall

in such a situation where everyone is wrong, the winner is usually right.

Our cause is right,you know further from history.

[Radical]

Military Correspondent Alexander Sladkov talks about the ongoing processes in Donbass these days

I sat out at Khankala then, but some of the guys ended up in the bureau, in the center, with us ...

[Lynx-z]

Kravchuk is the chief Judas .. his gallows is waiting ..