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Didn't meet budget: First base with F-35 fighters in Europe is too expensive

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Work to build the first base outside the United States for a 5th generation F-35 multipurpose aircraft is ongoing, but it is already costing too much. It was not possible to meet the estimate. Does the increase in the cost of building facilities at the Lukenheath base in the UK mean that the cost of building similar bases in Poland will also increase?


The Polish edition of Defense 24 argues on this topic.

In 2015, it was estimated that the reconstruction of the Lakenheath base would cost the American taxpayer $ 480 million. It is planned to deploy two American squadrons, each of which is equipped with 24 aircraft. At the same time, the infrastructure under construction involves the reception of a larger number of these powerful and complex combat vehicles. This is done in case of a possible arrival of reinforcements from the United States.

Work at Lakenheath began last July. Their main part was to be completed by early November 2021. Some of the infrastructure facilities under construction are ready, but others are facing delays.

According to Defense News, it turned out that the estimate had grown by about 25 percent, that is, by $ 90 million, and the completion date was postponed. Justifying the increase in costs and the shift in terms, contractors cite the emergence of additional difficulties and the associated increase in labor costs for the personnel involved in the work.

Therefore, Defense 24 assumes that the cost of creating similar facilities for the American Air Force in Poland will also exceed estimates.
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  1. Mitroha
    Mitroha 8 August 2020 12: 14 New
    +9
    25% is still a decent rise in price, and these are not the last figures, most likely. $ 600 million and this is not from scratch, but reconstruction
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 8 August 2020 12: 28 New
      12
      Didn't meet budget: First base with F-35 fighters in Europe is too expensive

      Somehow not new no All, which is somehow connected with the F-35 Lightning II, does not fit into the estimate ...

      Not surprised no We got used to yes
      1. mvg
        mvg 8 August 2020 21: 49 New
        -5
        Everything related to Donbass also does not fit into the budget of the Russian Federation. And also for several years. Feed ragamuffins like you, and the result is "nullsen"
        1. Private-K
          Private-K 9 August 2020 07: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: mvg
          Everything related to Donbass also does not fit into the budget of the Russian Federation. And also for several years. Feed ragamuffins like you, and the result is "nullsen"

          And what should be the result? They had to take Kharkov / Dnepr / Kiev on their own?
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 9 August 2020 09: 18 New
          +6
          Quote: mvg
          Everything related to Donbass also does not fit into the budget of the Russian Federation. And also for several years. Feed ragamuffins like you, and the result is "nullsen"

          What are we, Donbass, to you personally did that make you flood so furiously in an article about the infrastructure around the F-35 Lightning II -? ? ?

          Or is it me, you somewhere, once, personally stepped on your tail?
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 04: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Somehow not new Everything that is somehow connected with the F-35 Lightning II does not fit into the estimate ...

        Not surprised

        laughing laughing laughing I would be surprised if it was the other way around.

        That's what it is designed for. laughing laughing
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 8 August 2020 15: 09 New
      +5
      So they have not yet guessed to put a stealth cover on the concrete runway ... it is useless for an invisible person to fly with a visible aerodrome. Before the various congresses and senates with parliaments there will be smile
      1. mvg
        mvg 8 August 2020 21: 52 New
        -8
        to put a stealth cover on the runway concrete

        They spent the stealth cover on your brain, it is not appropriate to pretend to be sentient with such comments. Not like a kid or something
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 04: 36 New
        0
        Quote: dzvero
        So they have not yet guessed to put a stealth cover on the concrete runway ... it is useless for an invisible person to fly with a visible aerodrome. Before the various congresses and senates with parliaments there will be smile

        Ratsuha for the American GDP - stealth-coated aviation missile bombs. So that the enemy does not see what is flying towards him. And you can siphon the dough for this - you are already dizzy ...
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 9 August 2020 07: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          stealth-coated aviation missile bombs.
          You late. Already done.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 10: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Simargl
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            stealth-coated aviation missile bombs.
            You late. Already done.

            Well, well ... I last I was at war for a long time. My father, my grandfather and great-grandfather - and even more so. Since then, perhaps something has changed. What I don’t know. drinks
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 9 August 2020 11: 53 New
              +1
              AGM-154, for example. Planning BoNba
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 12: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Simargl
                AGM-154, for example. Planning BoNba

                The Airborne Forces catches such boNby with their hands and saws them on spoons for trout fishing. laughing
      3. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 9 August 2020 13: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: dzvero
        It is useless for an invisible person to fly with a visible aerodrome.

        This is yes. The radar screen will show the runway and the invisible contours of the F-35.
        So you have thrown a valuable thought. Billions can be explored at this airfield. And for many years ...
    3. Sergey39
      Sergey39 8 August 2020 15: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Mitroha
      25% is still a decent rise in price

      In any case, one Iskander missile with special ammunition costs much less than the cost of building such a base in Poland.
    4. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 8 August 2020 16: 19 New
      +1
      Yes, for such grandmother, it was possible to otrohat base in an open field. Fools and embezzlers are not only a Russian problem))))
    5. kulinar
      kulinar 8 August 2020 19: 42 New
      +5
      Well ... Not very good by Russian standards.
      How much did the Olympic facilities rise in price?
      What is the cost of key facilities in the Russian Federation? The cosmodrome and other Rogozin's projects ...
    6. Vicontas
      Vicontas 8 August 2020 19: 50 New
      0
      So we wish Poland many times more of the same bases as in Great Britain!
    7. smart ass
      smart ass 10 August 2020 08: 59 New
      0
      It's cheap when you print the bucks yourself
  2. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 8 August 2020 12: 19 New
    +7
    It turns out that not only our stadiums are being built for 10 years for space money, those that are at the expense of the budget, striped ones are also not averse to sawing something from the state.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 8 August 2020 12: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: tatarin_ru
      , striped also do not mind to cut something from the state.

      So they are also real people and they also want to eat sweetly laughing
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 8 August 2020 13: 08 New
      +6
      Our sawmills are just children compared to their sawers. Their money for the Ministry of Defense simply evaporates ...
    3. askort154
      askort154 8 August 2020 13: 30 New
      +7
      tatarin_ru ...It turns out that not only our stadiums are being built for 10 years for space money, those that are at the expense of the budget, striped ones are also not averse to sawing something from the state.

      Their "experience" came to us. As well as "pop culture".
      In the USSR, the term “to cut the budget,” or “a secret for a million,” “a woman without complexes,” “who has larger breasts,” etc., did not fit into the human mind at that time. Now it is an integral part of modern "morality", not to mention same-sex marriage. As women say, "with whom you lead, from that you will become pregnant." Russia in the 90s "became pregnant with capitalism", what will be born as a result is still not clear. And the gestation period is not long, only 30 years. hi
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 August 2020 23: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: askort154
        Russia in the 90s "became pregnant with capitalism", what will be born as a result is still not clear.

        Binom Newton too

        If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia now, I will answer: they drink and steal ... Saltykov Shchedrin
        1. dsaf
          dsaf 9 August 2020 03: 09 New
          +2
          They drank less.
          This is confirmed by statistics and seen in life, especially among young people.
          But to steal ...
          The fish rots from the head!
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 9 August 2020 04: 37 New
      0
      Quote: tatarin_ru
      It turns out that not only our stadiums are being built for 10 years for space money, those that are at the expense of the budget, striped ones are also not averse to sawing something from the state.

      Ours learn from them.
  3. Shraik
    Shraik 8 August 2020 12: 19 New
    +4
    Timing to the right, price up. A common thing in military construction. Also news to me.
  4. RUnnm
    RUnnm 8 August 2020 12: 28 New
    0
    Eh, still Rogozin and Serdyukov would send them to supervise the construction site and one could consider that the job is done ...
    In general, increasing the financial expenses of potential friends is just fine ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 8 August 2020 12: 40 New
      +8
      They have enough of their own. No worse than our specialists
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 8 August 2020 12: 41 New
        -1
        So this is understandable, but we would have fewer such "specialists" ...
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 8 August 2020 12: 43 New
          +1
          A holy place is never empty. The queue is
          1. Narcologist
            Narcologist 8 August 2020 13: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Lipchanin
            A holy place is never empty. The queue is

            To the point Sergey !!!! The queue for 10 years already ...
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 8 August 2020 13: 07 New
              0
              Quote: Narkolog
              The queue for 10 years already ..

              Well, it depends on what terms will be received by those who get caught and who will actually be imprisoned
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 10 August 2020 11: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        They have enough of their own. No worse than our specialists

        Our children, in comparison with their specialists, are small ...
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 8 August 2020 12: 49 New
      -6
      Quote: RUnnm
      Rogozin and Serdyukov

      And Rotenberg to help. You look and the Star of the Hero of Capitalist Labor will receive! what
      1. Narcologist
        Narcologist 8 August 2020 13: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: RUnnm
        Rogozin and Serdyukov

        And Rotenberg to help. You look and the Star of the Hero of Capitalist Labor will receive! what

        Well, the Jews in Russia remained quiet and not greedy .. Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky are examples of them .. bully Unfasten for the good of the country and get angry lol
        1. dsaf
          dsaf 9 August 2020 03: 10 New
          0
          Well you do!
          Berezovsky died a long time ago!
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 10 August 2020 11: 17 New
            0
            Quote: dsaf
            Well you do!
            Berezovsky died a long time ago!

            Berezovsky died, but his business, or rather his affairs, live on.
            There are places where you throw a stick - you will fall into a follower of Berezovsky.
  5. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 8 August 2020 12: 39 New
    0
    It is planned to deploy two American squadrons, each equipped with 24 aircraft. At the same time, the infrastructure under construction involves the reception of a larger number of these powerful and complex combat vehicles. This is done in case of a possible arrival of reinforcements from the United States.

    Do they really think that Russia is going to attack them?
    But if you decide to start a war on your own, then in a serious scenario, there simply will not be a winner
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 8 August 2020 12: 42 New
      -1
      Of course not. It's just business. Nothing personal...
  6. iouris
    iouris 8 August 2020 12: 52 New
    +2
    And this is a non-aerodrome-based aircraft "
    Munchausen will declare war on England on the 32nd I don't remember what year. They won't have time.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 8 August 2020 13: 10 New
      -2
      Quote: iouris
      don't remember what year

      Now I climbed the search engine on the tynet, there is no answer laughing
  7. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 8 August 2020 12: 55 New
    -3
    Again we count other people's money.
    If there are not enough of our own, then it is interesting to consider strangers, and if there are a little of our own, then I do not care about others.
    1. Narcologist
      Narcologist 8 August 2020 12: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      Again we count other people's money.
      If there are not enough of our own, then it is interesting to consider strangers, and if there are a little of our own, then I do not care about others.

      Well, yours in Russia started counting back in the 90s .. How long will we last!
      Now our time has come to laugh at the attempts of the West .. he he
      How they stubbornly snatch the expensive and raw F-35 to their vassals .. lol
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 8 August 2020 13: 03 New
        0
        Good afternoon!
        We lost not because it was expensive, but because traitors ruled, and they still have no fact ...
        1. Narcologist
          Narcologist 8 August 2020 14: 31 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          Good afternoon!

          Kind as anyone ...
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          We lost not because it was expensive, but because traitors ruled, and they still have no fact ...

          The traitors ruled, and the people were on their own ... hi
        2. dsaf
          dsaf 9 August 2020 03: 12 New
          -1
          Every nation deserves its own government.
          This applies to Russia in full measure.
  8. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 8 August 2020 13: 10 New
    -2
    As always, there is not enough dough. Here's how to cut budgets. Our embezzlers are terribly far from the Anglo-Saxon thieves.
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 8 August 2020 13: 26 New
    -1
    Have you tried to steal less?
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 8 August 2020 13: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Have you tried to steal less?

      Do not prompt.
      Don't bother the Americans. They fulfill Putin's task - the ruin of neighbors.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 8 August 2020 13: 27 New
    +2
    We didn’t meet the budget, pf-e what a trifle, by a quarter of everything, yet.
    We have something for budgetary funds, it would not be considered a problem at all.
  11. askort154
    askort154 8 August 2020 13: 54 New
    0
    Therefore, Defense 24 assumes that the cost of creating similar facilities for the American Air Force in Poland will also exceed estimates.

    Duda has already promised to allocate up to 4 billion for the construction of the US base, although Poland is sitting on EU subsidies. Brussels is considering cutting subsidies to all eastern EU countries from 2021 by 47 billion euros. , redirecting them to help the southern EU countries. Brussels is unhappy that the "young NATO members" are paying the NATO (US) budget the funds they receive as subsidies. So, for example - Germany pays only 1,4% of its GDP (which infuriates Trump), and the countries sitting on EU subsidies: Estonia, Poland and others regularly pay 2% each. That is, they pay out of the common pocket of the EU. There is a big discord in the EU over this. As a result, sooner or later, "Old Europe" will have to create its own armed forces.
  12. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 8 August 2020 13: 58 New
    0
    Normal Normal! Americans are great!
    They said - We protect you, and you pay, build for us. You give more bases.
    Maybe after that the brains will start working when mice are hung in refrigerators on a national scale.
  13. sav
    sav 8 August 2020 14: 22 New
    +4
    Poland will swallow any excess of the budget, probably even thank you - after all, this is for the defenders from the "barbarians from the East"
  14. Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 8 August 2020 14: 59 New
    0
    Brexit may have affected the price. Now this base is not at all interesting for the EU, as the union of the union, it is more difficult for the Americans to present it as a contribution to NATO, the base covers Britain from the EU, rather, the English Channel.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 August 2020 12: 47 New
      0
      Britain has left the EU, but not NATO.
      Americans are leaving Germany.
      Large American air bases will remain in Britain and Italy.
      The NATO Aviation Center is likely to replace the German Air Force with its Typhoons and Poland, which will receive 50 F-35s by 2030.
  15. orionvitt
    orionvitt 8 August 2020 15: 24 New
    -1
    Everything is fine, let them build and produce, and more. As at one time, the USSR was dragged into an arms race (after which tens of thousands of unclaimed aircraft, tanks and other weapons remained), so now, on the basis of hysteria with the "Russian threat", they are drawing themselves. You can only hear from all sides how expensive everything is. No matter how overstrained. laughing Let them push. And then the crisis arrived. We'll see.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 August 2020 16: 58 New
    +1
    It's okay, Eastern European lackeys will pay.
  17. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 8 August 2020 17: 35 New
    +4
    In 2015 year it was estimated that the reconstruction of the Lakenheath base would cost the American taxpayer $ 480 million.
    But this article has more
    "The general trend has been that projects are being delayed and also over budget," he told Defense News in a July interview. “Many of the assumptions made back in 2015 were not necessarily correct. There has been an increase in costs beyond planning assumptions, made back in 2015 ”.
    Despite the delays, the Air Force still plans to continue working on the supply of aircraft. According to current plans, F-35 pilots and maintenance technicians will begin arriving at RAF Lakenheath in June 2021, with the first aircraft arriving in November. The base will eventually become home to two F-35 squadrons, each with 24 aircraft.
    I hope you understand that 25% of the 2015 price is perfectly acceptable.
  18. Rostislav Prokopenko
    Rostislav Prokopenko 8 August 2020 19: 51 New
    -1
    Well, in our country, they periodically put someone in prison for corruption. And there it is called lobbyism and all the norm wink laughing
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 8 August 2020 21: 11 New
    0
    According to Defense News, it turned out that the estimate had grown by about 25 percent, that is, by $ 90 million, and the completion date was postponed.

    Standard practice among Americans. Now there will be articles in the media that the Russians are about to attack and the missing money will immediately be found. And so a couple of times
  20. Mimino
    Mimino 10 August 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    Nothing! It's not Americans who pay, and that's good!
  21. fider
    fider 10 August 2020 08: 57 New
    0
    Worry about the cost of RF bases. You don't pay for NATO bases. hi