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Who will the Central Bank save: us or who is it needed?

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Thank you for everything



The popular German newspaper Die Welt has recognized the head of the Russian Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, as the main savior of the Russian economy. Thank you, of course, this is the only way I want to remind that the general public in our country will definitely not get warmer from this. Well, our general public is not very fond of those who are praised in the West.

In the West, as you know, they simply adore Mikhail Gorbachev, and in Germany - especially. This is understandable: the Union collapsed, and helped Germany to unite. They also love the notorious Russian privatizer Chubais, whose actions helped the West settle in key sectors of our economy so that now you cannot smoke it out by any means.

Once abroad, they sang praises to Mikhail Kasyanov, who, in the posts of finance minister and prime minister, seemed to have effectively "thrown off" all Russian state debts. Only now they do not remember that in the end literally all the leading domestic corporations and banks ended up in debt as in silks.

A little later, Alexei Kudrin was recognized as the best finance minister. Apparently, for the fact that he thoroughly replenished the bins of the notorious American funds, which successfully burst at the turn of 2008 and 2009. That did not prevent the ex-minister, left out of business, to actively promote for raising the retirement age and increasing the volume of foreign loans. Was it not for this that it was decided to send Kudrin straight to the Accounts Chamber?

Foreign colleagues and the media loved Nabiullina not so long ago: in 2015, Euromoney magazine named the chairman of the Bank of Russia the best head of the Central Bank for maintaining macroeconomic stability. A year later, a British business publication named her "the best head of the Central Bank" in Europe. In addition, Nabiullina managed to get into the list of the most influential women in the world - according to the authoritative Forbes.

Just a couple of years ago, not just anywhere, but in the Wall Street Journal, Elvira Nabiullina was already called exactly the same as now: the “savior” of the economy (How Nabiullina becomes "the savior of the Russian economy").

For what? Yes, all for the same. That cleared out the banking sector from everyone who cannot afford and cannot afford the tough regulations of the Central Bank. From everyone who dabbled in "poisoned" loans or simply got hooked on the currency exchange needle. And at the same time from all the recalcitrant and too independent, for which the chairman of the Central Bank reduced the capable, but recalcitrant Association of Russian Banks to the position of a provincial club of interests.

Let us recall that practically all the largest commercial banks with a significant share of the state left at the same time. The task of eradicating all kinds of banking opposition was accomplished simply brilliantly. However, the praises of the chief banker of Russia were also addressed for the fact that she stabilized Russian finances.

But she did it practically "to zero" for the majority of the population, when the rates on loans remained three times higher than the interest on deposits. And this with consistently falling inflation and key bank rates. When really "cheap" money is available only to the elite, and the rest, according to the well-known principle of the mafia, only the law remains.

Why Die Welt?


Our citizens are not very interested in the fact that Germany has now become almost our main economic ally because of Nord Stream 2. Not even a partner, but an ally who, probably, would even like to lift all anti-Russian sanctions altogether, but hands are short.

Who will the Central Bank save: us or who is it needed?

However, not only at the suggestion of the German edition, the head of the Central Bank is applauded in the Western business community. The best Elvira Nabiullina was also recognized by the experts of the World Bank, she was awarded numerous regalia at the IMF, but you never know where else ... As you can see, not only German colleagues have no doubts that the extremely tough monetary policy pursued by the Bank of Russia under the strict leadership of Elvira Sakhipzadovna, helped to alleviate our crisis economic problems.

If it were not for the Central Bank's firm course towards financial stabilization and if it were not for the categorical rejection of direct financial support for citizens and the business sector, the consequences of the coronavirus and the fall in oil prices could be much worse. However, in order to look objective, the authors of Die Welt still called the government's support measures insufficient.

Oddly enough, Die Welt considers it a mistake that the Russian Central Bank did not raise the key rate at the most acute moment of panic from the fall in world oil prices and the collapse of the ruble. But so far there is a persistent feeling that this was the only right decision. At the same time, the Central Bank and its head are given credit for maintaining macroeconomic stability. Maybe they just know better from the outside?

It is hardly worth taking Die Welt's maxims seriously about the fact that Mrs. Nabiullina has become almost the most influential woman in Russia, and that there are practically no women in leading leadership positions in our country. A number of surnames: Matvienko, Golikova, and even Popova, are unlikely to say much to the Western reader. And, in fact, the real power resource of all the rivals of the "iron lady" of the Central Bank does not look so impressive.

The German edition received a curious comment from the former deputy head of the Central Bank Sergei Aleksashenko: “Nabiullina is under pressure from all sides. She has become a very powerful figure in economic policy. " The hint of direct support from the first person is not very transparent, but in Russia it will be understood immediately.

Die Welt experts today associate their main hopes for saving the Russian economy with the actions of the Central Bank. At the same time, as if forgetting that the Bank of Russia did not raise the rate, they credit the regulator with the fact that it has reduced the key rate four times over the past five months.

It is very significant that Nabiullina was praised even for the duty and obligatory for members of the liberal economic community demand for some fundamental reforms of the Russian system of government. Moreover, this is exactly what she explains "limited opportunities for economic growth."

And yet she is the best


But who is the best for? For those who invest in Russia only for the sake of speculation and for those who consistently withdraw capital from the country? Of course, after all, the Central Bank has been consistently pursuing a policy of weakening foreign exchange controls throughout the years of E. Now on the agenda is a complete abolition of the mandatory repatriation of foreign exchange earnings.


The operation to humiliate the banking community and turn the Association into a quiet get-together was carried out by the leadership of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in parallel with another operation. We are talking about relegation to the position of an advisory office of the Deposit Insurance Association.

It should be reminded that the once advanced decision to create a unified insurance fund, which practically saved citizens' deposits from bankruptcies and collapses, was, in fact, disavowed with great difficulties. The bureaucracy that was tied to the hands of the DIA led to the fact that many who allowed themselves to have more than 700 thousand rubles on their deposits were simply deprived of them. The subsequent rollback did little to change, but only because the local default affected few.

It remains to be noted that the collapse of the ruble in the fall of 2014 was a good lesson for the best banker in the world and the Russian Central Bank did not repeat the mistake of that time in 2020. However, now the Central Bank seems to be making a different mistake, cutting the money supply to the limit, and this is not canceled by the key rate, which has been reduced almost to the level of inflation.

Due to this kind of "cleaning" of the financial field, financial support is again received only by a narrow circle of the elite, which in no way helps to warm up the economy. Even if, God forbid, to drop the ruble exchange rate at times. The American economy fell by a third, but we still have no idea how much ours fell.

And the Central Bank, headed by the "best banker in the world," with its games of betting, cleansing and free circulation of currency, seems to be saving the American economy. One thing we know for sure: now Russia has greatly reduced its exports. In this regard, export earnings have fallen sharply, and this also results in a reduction in the ruble supply, which is already minimal due to the position of the Central Bank.

As a result, the Russian budget, which is also almost a complete mystery to us now, may simply not have enough rubles to cover social obligations and pay wages. Even a colossal budget deficit, which has not happened for many years, cannot remove the problem. And here even the "savior" at the head of the Central Bank will not help.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 9 August 2020 05: 15
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    The popular German newspaper Die Welt has recognized the head of the Russian Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, as the main savior of the Russian economy.

    Citizen Nabiulina, together with the Central Bank, can only care about the well-being of the main shareholders, or rather the owners of this bank, but not about the well-being of the country's population.
    These citizens, like Nabiulina, Siluanov and others like them, say all the way that people in the Russian Federation have become better and more satisfying ... only they do not specify WHAT people.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 August 2020 05: 41
      31
      Under capitalism, the main goal is to maximize profits, and not concern for the population, the population is seen as the source of this profit, the exploited class.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 August 2020 05: 44
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        it is getting the maximum profit, not caring for the population, the population is considered as a source of this profit

        That's right - the worms never care about the wearer (although he is called the "host")
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 9 August 2020 08: 23
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          The best Elvira Nabiullina was also recognized by the experts of the World Bank, she was awarded numerous awards at the IMF, but you never know where else ...
          Unfortunately, in paragraphs 1 and 2 of Article 75 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which is dedicated to the Central Bank of Russia, the constitutional amendments were not applied. And this is wrong. Namely.
          1. The monetary unit in the Russian Federation is the ruble. Monetary issue is carried out exclusively by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation are not allowed.
          2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it exercises independently of other government bodies.
          "The stability of the ruble" is its defense against inflation and deflation. Those. maintaining a stable purchasing power of the monetary unit.
          Inflation arises from an imbalance in the money and commodity supply in the economy. And the INFLATION of the national currency is influenced NOT ONLY by the volume of emission of the Central Bank and commercial banks. But there is another, less obvious type of inflation. Inflation is also influenced by the volume of commodities (and services).
          Therefore, according to paragraph 2 of Article 75, a natural question immediately arises: How can the Central Bank ensure the stability of the ruble, REGARDLESS of other government bodies?
          Those. it turns out that the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Energy, the Ministry of Natural Resources, the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Agriculture of Russia have no influence on the RATE of the national currency ?!
          Namely, aren't the tariffs of the so-called natural monopolies (Gazprom, RAO UES, Russian Railways, etc.), which are constantly growing, not affecting the volume of the commodity mass of industrial production? Affect.
          Inflation is the process of devaluation of the money that we have already earned, and is expressed in an INCREASE IN PRICES due to unsecured emission of banknotes.
          And if, in the first case of the emission of excess money, the imbalance of the money and commodity supply (services) in the economy arises as a result of the increase in the money supply by banks in relation to the commodity supply. Then a similar imbalance may occur and in the event that when the volume of the money supply remains static, and the volume of the commodity supply decreases. Production is closed.
          And the reduction in the mass of goods is due to the constant growth of tariffs of natural monopolies. At the same time, the competitiveness of Russian goods is being lost.
          Natural monopoly tariffs, of course, also apply to Western companies operating in the Russian market. But Western companies have the ability to offset high tariffs with low cost loans.
          After all, it's not a secret for anyone that the whole world has been living de facto for a long time in conditions of negative interest rates and only Russia is a big reserve, where banks are more than compensating for the lost profit.
          Due to this, the entire Western (subsidized) economy lives and flourishes.

          TOTAL It is not surprising that the West is ready to carry Ms. Nabiulina, like Gorbachev, in her arms!
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi 9 August 2020 11: 07
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            Quote: Tatiana
            Unfortunately, in paragraphs 1 and 2 of Article 75 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which is dedicated to the Central Bank of Russia, the constitutional amendments were not applied. And this is wrong.

            Oh, how .... A month ago, the constitution was rewritten, but again it is not the same .... Now who is to blame? State Department again? Maybe it's not the constitution that matters, but some of the characters in power?
            Quote: Tatiana
            TOTAL. It is not surprising that the West is ready to carry Ms. Nabiulina, like Gorbachev, in her arms!

            Actually, not only the West is ready to wear it on hand. In March 2017, her term of office expired. And it was not the mysterious "West" who nominated it for the new one, but a very specific Mr. Putin. However ... And on the first one too. Simply put, west there or east and north they wear it, it is not clear where, but she is quite happy with the mister guarantor. And there is no need to look for the intrigues of enemies where the young lady stupidly fulfills the instructions of the wise helmsman.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 August 2020 15: 53
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              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Oh, how .... A month ago, the constitution was rewritten, but again it is not the same .... Now who is to blame? State Department again? Maybe it's not the constitution that matters, but some of the characters in power?

              You remind me of Navalny. It is with Navalny that Putin is also to blame for everything, and the laws of the Russian Federation allegedly have nothing to do with it.
              Let me remind you that all coups d'etat in third countries, organized by Washington, began precisely with a CHANGE of the national credit and financial system in favor of the US Federal Reserve. And after that they were fixed in the new - colonial - constitution of these countries.
              And for sure, you also personally voted in 1993 for this YELTSIN colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation. Therefore, I invite you to see personally and your own guilt in this matter in your own eyes!
              Namely.
              After ratification of the Bialowieza Accords, Russia turned into a colony of a unipolar world led by Washington. One of the most important instruments for managing Russia as a colony was the new credit and financial system (CFS) of Russia.
              On 20 of December 1991, the State Bank of the USSR was abolished. All assets, liabilities and property of the USSR State Bank on the territory of the RSFSR were transferred to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. A few months later, the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia) was renamed the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia).
              The very first version of the law "On the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia)" was adopted on December 2, 1990, after the summer of 1990 B.N. Yeltsin won the elections by a huge margin and became the first president of Russia, and after six months of his presidency, he signed Federal Law No. 02.12.1990-394 of 1. The law was modified and supplemented, but on the whole its essence was preserved.

              The betrayal of the national sovereignty of the Russian Federation in the field of finance was laid down and reinforced in its very Constitution of the Russian Federation of December 12 1993, which was compiled under the EBN under the patronage of Washington.
              Officially, the authors of this colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation from the 1993 of the year were: Sergei Shakhrai, Anatoly Sobchak, Sergey Sergeyevich Alekseev and the Constitutional Meeting of the Russian Federation.
              The Constitution of the Russian Federation from 1993 of the year only consolidated the colonial position of the Russian Federation in this matter.
              As a result, we have colonial legislation in the country, which, it seems, is impossible under comprador power to abolish in any way peacefully.
              In March 2017, her (Nabiulina's) term of office expired. And it was not the mysterious "West" who nominated it for the new one, but a very specific Mr. Putin. However ... And on the first one too.

              TOTAL It does not matter at all who exactly headed and heads the Central Bank of Russia, for the results of the work of the Central Bank of Russia - according to Russian legislation - according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993 in relation to the Central Bank of Russia (!) And according to the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia" - will be the same. Those. will obey the national interests of the United States.

              And about the situation in the Russian Federation in 2017 year Yevgeny Fyodorov spoke in an accessible and correct way.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 17: 36
                +8
                To drag the garbage demagogue Fedorov to the resource in 2020 is not a complete comme il faut and an actual recognition of one's own dementia.
                1. Revival
                  Revival 9 August 2020 22: 52
                  +3
                  When I look at something where he comes across, what a disgusting feeling appears
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 9 August 2020 22: 58
                    +3
                    This is because he is scum. Your Cap.
              2. Lannan Shi
                Lannan Shi 9 August 2020 17: 54
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                Quote: Tatiana
                TOTAL. It does not matter at all who exactly headed and heads the Central Bank of Russia, because the results of the work of the Central Bank of Russia - under Russian law - under the Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993 in relation to the Central Bank of Russia (!) And under the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia" - will be the same. Those. will obey the national interests of the United States.

                Phew. What delightful naivety. Here's an extremely simple question. Well, that would have been appointed in 2013 to the post of head of the Central Bank ... A certain Ivanov Sidor Petrovich. Who would have fired the entire staff of the Central Bank. From their deputies to cleaning ladies. He recruited a new staff, and with all the proletarian hatred, demonstratively scoring at all points and rules, would start for the good of the country, well, etc. Iiiii? Then what? Reptilians would attack Russia? Would Kamchatka Volcanoes Crawl to Moscow?
                And by the way. about the birds. A month ago, the Constitution was shredded. Along, across and diagonally. The article on the Central Bank was not touched .... In this regard, there are only 2 options. Or the video that you brought is a blatant and cynical lie, and this article about the Central Bank does not bother anyone. Either ... Either our entire elite, the State Duma, the government, and the guarantor, are all agents of the State Department. Those who categorically do not want to take the country out of external control. And the third option does not exist in principle. So choose, either individuals incapable of ruling the country are at the helm, or traitors are at the helm.
                Dixi.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 9 August 2020 18: 23
                  -3
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  Phew. What delightful naivety. Here's an extremely simple question. Well, that would have been appointed in 2013 to the post of head of the Central Bank ... A certain Ivanov Sidor Petrovich. Who would have fired the entire staff of the Central Bank. From their deputies to cleaning ladies. He recruited a new staff, and with all the proletarian hatred, demonstratively scoring at all points and rules, would start for the good of the country, well, etc.
                  No, it’s you naivety itself! What are you thinking ?! Namely.
                  You personally will adopt such colonial laws in the Russian Federation, and a certain "Ivanov Sidor Petrovich" by his voluntaristic decision will be one of them DO NOT execute! He will not hold out for one day in his post and will be put on trial in remote places!
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  Or the video that you brought is a blatant and cynical lie, and this article about the Central Bank does not bother anyone.
                  So, first of all, you yourself will correctly understand this issue, before offering people from yourself ultra-radical measures for a certain virtual "Ivanov Sidor Petrovich"!
                  I hope that you, Evgeny Fedorov, do not think you are more stupid than yourself!
                  1. Lannan Shi
                    Lannan Shi 9 August 2020 18: 46
                    +7
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    He will not hold out for one day in his post and will end up in remote places!

                    Well, trying to put the head of the Central Bank, without the knowledge of the president, is such a thing ... fraught with a minimum departure from service, but rather bunks or resettlement to the edge of the eternal hunt. Look, Chubais, Potanin and other heroes privatizers are walking free? Outright criminals, if the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is studied, but the guarantor said that these thieves should be imprisoned, that's all, the laws are sideways. Why in the case of the Central Bank it suddenly doesn’t work, I don’t put my mind to it .. Or are you so subtly hinting that Mr. Putin orders the head of the Central Bank to be imprisoned if he decides to work for the good of Russia? Oh ... boldly ....
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    I hope that you, Evgeny Fedorov, do not think you are more stupid than yourself!

                    Fair? I consider him just an actor. Working out their role. Now the truth will be released, because talking about a bad constitution that hinders a good guarantor will no longer work. And she was somehow not aware of the degree of his mind. There is no evidence for or against.
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 9 August 2020 22: 58
                      +2
                      Something I do not see the answer to your comment !? And you asked such an interesting question!
                      Looks like the logical chain "Fedorov" cracked
                  2. Revival
                    Revival 9 August 2020 22: 55
                    +4
                    So why weren't the articles on the Central Bank changed in the constitution?
              3. Revival
                Revival 9 August 2020 22: 51
                0
                How can you refer to this ........! in the picture below the text !?
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 9 August 2020 16: 15
            +5
            Quote: Tatiana
            And the reduction in the mass of commodities is due to the constant growth of tariffs of natural monopolies.

            Can the banking system be called a natural monopoly? and the rate of exchange rates ??? I think so, because the emission is associated with gold reserves.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 9 August 2020 05: 54
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        Under capitalism, the main goal is to maximize profits, and not concern for the population, the population is seen as the source of this profit, the exploited class.

        All right.
        In the capitalist system, the main goal is to make a profit. And most often by fraudulent means. No wonder one of the millionaires in the West said - I can report for every dollar, except for the first million. And the stories of the Rothschilds, Morgans and Rockefellers speak precisely of the fact that the capitalist system is based on DECEPTION.
        At the same time, in this pursuit of profit there is no place for humanity, compassion and love, and there has never been a place. Here the law rules - man is a wolf to man.
        And the adherents of the capitalist system will prove to blue in the face that this is the best way to develop society. At the same time, it was in such a society that the phrase could arise - if you are so smart, why so poor? That is, according to them, it turns out that if you are rich and successful, then you are smart, and if you are poor, then you are stupid. It seems to me alone that this phrase also contains deception and falsification?
        The capitalist system itself is ASOCIAL, for it is imprisoned for a split in society (poor and rich, successful and not successful, etc.).
        And this scam began at the moment when one cunning rascal came up with money, which are, in fact, those vouchers, thanks to which the whole country was heated in the 90s.
        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 9 August 2020 06: 04
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          Human Submission, Human Oppression, Human Exploitation by Human

          1. (Gratuitous) appropriation (use) of the results of someone else's labor.

          2. Using the skills of people in order to appropriate the results of their work.

          3. Any kind of gratuitous appropriation of the means of production, the results of someone else's labor, which is carried out in all class societies as a result of the alienation of direct producers from the means of production, as well as through economic and political coercion.

          4. Monopoly high price for the product of management in society, as a consequence of the monopoly on specific knowledge.

          5. The moral idea of ​​the injustice of certain economic relations, in the form of a political economic doctrine of the existence of a systematic appropriation of the results of the work of some people by others without appropriate compensation.

          6. Coercion of a person by an explicit or implicit method to provide another person or a selected group of people with the benefits of life.

          7. Assignment of the results of someone else's (unpaid) labor.

          8. The appropriation of the results of someone else's labor by the owner of the means of production, inherent in an exploitative society.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 9 August 2020 07: 49
            +9
            Do not try to seem like an oracle, all this has long been described in the work "CAPITAL" by Karl Marx. hi
            1. Pessimist22
              Pessimist22 9 August 2020 08: 16
              +7
              And did Marx write this? And I thought it was such thoughts that came to me, there it is.
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 9 August 2020 06: 07
          10
          Quote: NEXUS
          At the same time, in this pursuit of profit there is no place for humanity, compassion and love, and there has never been a place. Here the law rules - man is a wolf to man.

          If we cast aside all the ideological fog - an ordinary gang of racketeers ... or you pay us or it will be worse, but for you ... Religion "helps" a lot to explain this state of affairs for the population - humble yourself, this is not banditry, it is so prescribed from above. and when religion exhausts its resource (the people need to be taught and educated, otherwise the neighboring gang will take everything away), fascism comes to replace it with national characteristics, so to speak, with a local flavor (as well as religion before that).
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 9 August 2020 11: 57
            +8
            That's right, religion works in conjunction with power, their goal is the same - to keep the people in check. Therefore, the priests and the authorities extol each other and support each other. The authorities will allocate money to the priests and the priests "work out" in full, because they are building three churches a day, this is the pace, hospitals, schools and housing for people would be built like that.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 9 August 2020 12: 00
              +2
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              The authorities will allocate money to the priests and the priests "work out" in full

              Well, after all, a person is, in principle, reasonable, so you have to somehow fight with this mind ...
        3. depressant
          depressant 9 August 2020 10: 41
          12
          Hmmm ... Tatiana mentioned the support from the Central Bank for the purchasing power of the ruble. As recently as yesterday, rummaging through the books, I found an old entry in one of them (apparently, I used it as a bookmark):

          18. 03. 2004.
          Apartment - 1198, 44
          Electricity - 61.02
          Gas - 19.17
          Antenna - 7.50
          Total 1286.13

          This is exactly how much my living in my own apartment in 2004 cost per month. That's exactly how much I bought it. This was the purchasing power of the ruble. And that was 1/10 of my income. Now for the possibility of my existence I pay about half of what I have, about 7 thousand. At the same time, spending a minimum of electricity - what kind of iron, washing machine, microconditioning, stereo system, and even more so a TV! It does not even occur to me to repair a long-dead computer. Apparently, soon it will be necessary to turn off the refrigerator in accordance with the policy of increasing the purchasing power of the ruble in Nabiullin style. And already on the horizon looms Hamlet's question in a modern interpretation: to live or not to live?
        4. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 August 2020 16: 17
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS
          And the stories of the Rothschilds, Morgans and Rockefellers speak precisely of the fact that the capitalist system is based on DECEPTION.

          the biggest capitals are made on WAR !!!
      3. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 9 August 2020 05: 59
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        I see this efficiency as a layman. Two years ago, I took a house on a mortgage at the Rosselkhozbank at 13,9% per annum, well, I think ... I'll risk over-accreditation later ... Then the rates fell by two ... the pandemic went ... well, I think it's TIME ... sal less). Applied for 8% at least, a refusal comes ...
        I called the bank. The girl explains that your income has decreased, we cannot give you out now. I ask her: Where is the logic? recourse Now I can pay 26 sput, why not reduce at least 20 sput?
        She replied: income does not allow you ... and so on several banks ...
        CINEMA AND NEMTS laughing
        This is how our banking system works effectively.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 9 August 2020 06: 06
          11
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          This is how our banking system works effectively.

          Ostap had 101 ways to take money away from the population. And his business lives and flourishes, and today not only at the household level between people, but also on the scale of states and the world in general.
          1. alone
            alone 9 August 2020 07: 21
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            Quote: NEXUS
            Ostap had 101 ways of taking money away from the population.

            Ostap was merciful. The current ones have 10100 ways
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 9 August 2020 16: 26
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            Ostap had 101 ways to take money away from the population.

            all the Ostapes left for the USA ... In the USA counterfeiters legalized the printing of money, and the largest bribe-takers established the Congress ... they turned the World into a huge CASINO, where exchange rates of currencies, energy resources, etc. are played out. And the owner of the Casino always has everyone.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 9 August 2020 06: 52
          14
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Applied for 8%

          How about 8%? Putin announced that he had lowered the mortgage to 6,5%!

          And eight is literally twice as high as the Central Bank's key rate. In your case, in general, three and a half. The mortgage, in an amicable way, should be automatically recalculated with a decrease in the refinancing rate.

          Strange things are happening! "Everything" for people! On TV, manna from heaven, but in reality, people are skinned.
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 9 August 2020 08: 56
            -6
            "and the image is literally twice as high"
            And how many was before, don't you remember?
            It is not necessary from the Central Bank and its chairman to make holders of the country's fate.
            And then "some civilians" begin to resemble the characters in the tale of the goldfish.
            If there is an increase in the production of non-primary products and key services within the country, then the Central Bank will simply work, it is not a basis, but an important, but superstructure. You can't jump higher than shit, even if you put super-smart economists-financiers to manipulate with rates and rates.
            At this point, it became clear that the export development model would not go far. And they learned to squeeze oil out of the city, and they apply protectionist sanctions with might and main.
            It is necessary to REASONALLY close the country in an economic sense, rely on the domestic market, using infrastructure projects as locomotives of the economy.
            This is not to say that they are not doing anything in this direction, but, as always, we wanted more.
            1. Aag
              Aag 10 August 2020 10: 16
              0
              Development is not a scalar. Direction is important. But here is a problem
              declared with realizable ...
              Quote: Alekseev
              "and the image is literally twice as high"
              And how many was before, don't you remember?
              It is not necessary from the Central Bank and its chairman to make holders of the country's fate.
              And then "some civilians" begin to resemble the characters in the tale of the goldfish.
              If there is an increase in the production of non-primary products and key services within the country, then the Central Bank will simply work, it is not a basis, but an important, but superstructure. You can't jump higher than shit, even if you put super-smart economists-financiers to manipulate with rates and rates.
              At this point, it became clear that the export development model would not go far. And they learned to squeeze oil out of the city, and they apply protectionist sanctions with might and main.
              It is necessary to REASONALLY close the country in an economic sense, rely on the domestic market, using infrastructure projects as locomotives of the economy.
              This is not to say that they are not doing anything in this direction, but, as always, we wanted more.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 August 2020 07: 41
            +1
            Quote: Stas157
            How about 8%?

            Given that I have a large family, I pay a mortgage in Sberbank at a rate of 10,5% request
        3. Varyag71
          Varyag71 12 August 2020 11: 31
          0
          And I decided to consider the option of a rural mortgage. I want to build. Not only have they frozen, but there are such requirements that no respectable developer will get involved with this.
      4. populist
        populist 9 August 2020 07: 50
        +5
        Pessimist22 (Igor)
        Under capitalism, the main goal is to maximize profits, and not concern for the population, the population is seen as the source of this profit, the exploited class.

        Almost everyone believes that capitalism has taken root in Russia. But this is a harmful delusion.
        Under capitalism, the main goal of the authorities is to regulate relations between owners and provide conditions for the growth and development of the economy. And already through the solution of these tasks, ensuring the stability of the social situation, as one of the conditions for the growth and development of the economy.
        In fact, we don't have capitalism in Russia.
        To put it purely emotionally, we have pseudo-ugly capitalism in Russia. Or a comprador political-oligarchic system (formation), if we define it in scientific terms.
        Such a system is significantly different from capitalism in its system, functions and is much worse than capitalism.
        Russia is very far from capitalism. But we must fight for socialism.
        Unfortunately, our people do not understand this whole situation.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 9 August 2020 07: 53
          0
          Quote: populist
          Under capitalism, the main goal of the authorities is to regulate relations between owners and provide conditions for the growth and development of the economy.

          Who told you that?
          1. populist
            populist 9 August 2020 08: 46
            -2
            mat-vey (Matvey)
            Who told you that?

            History.
            In the conditions of competition between political forces under developed (may they forgive me this term) capitalism, the authorities find it difficult to exploit their people. The capitalists are engaged in the exploitation of the population (labor force) during this period. For example, take England and Germany in the second half of the 19th century or Sweden in the 20th century.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 9 August 2020 08: 54
              +1
              Quote: populist
              History.

              That's it, that's all ... there are no more questions for you personally, and there won't be ...
              1. populist
                populist 9 August 2020 10: 16
                +1
                mat-vey (Matvey)
                Everything, everything .. there are no more questions for you personally, and there won't be

                This is how I write that people here do not understand what kind of situation-formation they find themselves in.
                There are much more socio-economic formations than Marx named. Read the "Philosophy of History" by the living Marxist Yu. Semyonov. It reveals everything very well. Of course, if intellectual reading is available to you.
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 9 August 2020 10: 21
                  0
                  Quote: populist
                  There are much more socio-economic formations than Marx named.

                  The feline family also has more than a domestic cat and they vary greatly in size and habitat - if you can understand that, of course ..
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 August 2020 16: 41
          +1
          Quote: populist
          To put it purely emotionally, we have pseudo-ugly capitalism in Russia.

          Capital is a Value that creates a new Value ... the term Capital means Production Means, trained Labor Force, Energy Infrastructure, Raw Material Base, Road Transport Logistics, but the most important thing is Scientific and Technical potential - the reproduction of the best specialists is the main task of the state. Education is something that no capitalist can handle.
          If you look at Russia, entangled in pipes, it resembles a colony. It is not clear who the metropolis is. Most likely the entire West. And we have not pseudo ugly capitalism, but a capitalist type of relations between people, nothing more. And there is no capital as such. as there are no competitive production facilities, which is fatal in an open market
      5. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 9 August 2020 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Under capitalism, the main goal is to maximize profits, and not concern for the population, the population is seen as the source of this profit, the exploited class.

        I got the impression that the author does not live in Russia and therefore does not know its realities. Otherwise, he would not have asked the question - "Who will the Central Bank save: us or who is it?" the answer to which is obvious. - Of course the shareholders, and at our expense.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 9 August 2020 12: 15
          10
          I read somewhere on the Internet that the average European lives 4 times richer than the average Russian.
          Why? The system (capitalism) seems to be the same, maybe our rulers understand their mission differently? Then you need to change them. In my opinion, it's all the same: capitalism or socialism, the main thing is that ordinary people live with dignity, but 4 times poorer than Europeans (Poles, Romanians and Bulgarians) is just a shame. I do not think that we (Russians) work less or worse than the Europeans, I think in another matter - those in power are deceiving us, they take the lion's share of the income for themselves, and give us crumbs.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 9 August 2020 13: 23
            +6
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            I don't think that we (Russians) work less or worse than Europeans.

            We work no less and no worse. The question is the efficiency of our work. And it is very low because of the disgusting organization of production and labor.
            Our "effective" managers can only steal effectively.
          2. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 9 August 2020 18: 09
            +5
            The system (capitalism) seems to be the same, maybe our rulers understand their mission differently?


            But no. You have feudal-oligarchic capitalism. I left the word "capitalism" for euphony.
      6. Victor Ar
        Victor Ar 11 August 2020 09: 27
        0
        I wonder if filling the counters is not a concern for the population? High competition in agricultural production makes essential products outrageously cheaper. We again began to throw blasphemously bread to waste because of its cheapness and to feed cattle with it. Or maybe we ourselves will go from the city to a village or dacha and increase our food security, and Muscovites? By the way, the nasty capitalists do not force us to overeat and buy everything from the counters with the "last money". Or maybe we somehow got stuck with you and see the benefit only in our own personal efforts, not noticing that someone else is trying to provide for us and "takes money from us for it." We notice only "big wallets", but we ourselves would not refuse to be in their place and "be free to play." We should be in their place and fight every day for profits and save at least, and not eat away the accumulated entrepreneurial thought.

        Liberals like Kudrin or Nabiullina are necessary for our statehood. They know how to collect, save, save. They do not slaughter "golden chickens" as socialists usually do for the sake of general satiety for the sake of drones and the principles of egalitarianism. Today, all the blessings are obtained with great work and we must devote our praise with a bow to those who work furiously to replenish the budget, giving themselves up leads to the well-being of others. The wheel of the economy is spinning, changing rules and approaches. This is not a stagnant phenomenon, as at the end of the USSR we dragged the economy with an impoverished budget and an empty gold storage.

        Now thanks to the liberals that we are not with an outstretched hand at the global banking system. We have organized poorly the processes of our own production and we can give the planet not only oil and gas, but also gunpowder and bread.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 9 August 2020 06: 23
      -9
      stone to stone, brick to brick, our leader Vladimir Ilyich died.
      money to money, and ailments to disease.
      no need to transfer the negative of the street to the Central Bank
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 9 August 2020 06: 38
      15
      ... Euromoney named the Chairman of the Bank of Russia the best head of the Central Bank behind maintaining macroeconomic stability

      According what is wooden stable falls, overtaking the blue chips in its fall. Thus, the head of the Central Bank of Russia, made of the national currency, an extremely volatile and speculative instrument. What has so far been used by both international speculators and domestic (our banks).
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 9 August 2020 07: 18
        +7
        Well, it collapsed in December 14th, at the request of its owners, the ruble rate doubled. For no reason at all. What about encouraging currency speculation? Etc. etc.
      2. depressant
        depressant 9 August 2020 07: 42
        11
        A number of serious researchers believe that the main mistake of Nabiullina is non-interference in exchange rate formation. It seems that the ruble exchange rate is set from a lantern. Why is it now over 70 rubles? And why was it much lower 10 years ago?
        Here is what, for example, Ruslan Grinberg, head of the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, says:
        "The free floating of the ruble programs the entire economy for uncertainty. We are humiliatingly dependent on the cost of a barrel of oil. The idea that market forces will determine the course is counterproductive. Oil is the most volatile commodity. For Russia, which is very closely connected with the world market, such a policy means unpredictable and blocks any chance of development. "
        And there is. Where is our development in the form of industrialization based on our own technologies? Having barely emerged on the basis of the use of public funds, enterprises immediately rush to a foreign investor, leaving the state with an insignificant shareholding, or even being transferred abroad, especially advanced and digital technologies. So they are uncomfortable under the wing of the "great" Nabiullina.
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    5. Civil
      Civil 9 August 2020 20: 59
      +1
      And the media modestly kept silent about the recognition
  2. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 9 August 2020 05: 31
    +6
    The question in the title is purely rhetorical. And we, unlike the Germans, know the answer perfectly well.
  3. codetalker
    codetalker 9 August 2020 06: 07
    +2
    So she is therefore recognized as the best banker in the world, because she did everything she could to crush the Russian economy. The fact that this did not work out suggests that the Central Bank is facing some kind of opposition in this matter. This is so, information for thought to those who sincerely believe that "they are all there" are sitting to spread rot people.
    1. Victor Ar
      Victor Ar 11 August 2020 09: 38
      0
      She was delivered by Russia. Not America. She had a specific task to cleanse and strengthen the banking sector from "rotten bricks" in the financial dome of the country with which she did an excellent job. And if they had put another more "democratic" one, he would have begun to feel sorry for the laggards and those who are not very capable, and would have flunked the whole business, and with him the country's bank shield. In the Russian banking sector, there are probably no more random pro-American figures. They have long been pushed to the periphery or even abroad.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 9 August 2020 06: 20
    +5
    As a result, the Russian budget, which is also almost a complete mystery to us now, may simply not have enough rubles to cover social obligations and pay wages.
    ... Old songs about the main thing and do not want to repeat ...
  5. Egoza
    Egoza 9 August 2020 06: 36
    +8
    What a funny headline! When did banks save the people? And the central bank ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 August 2020 08: 48
      +7
      They only robbed .. to save the people .. they do not work for this ..
      Quote: Egoza
      What a funny headline! When did banks save the people? And the central bank ...
  6. New Year day
    New Year day 9 August 2020 07: 12
    21
    And yet she is the best

    we had the best finance minister Kudrin, now the best Nabiulina, the best president!
    The question is, why isn't life getting better? Why in the early 2000s there were 23 self-sufficient regions and now no more than 10?
    They may be the best, but for whom? For those in Forbes, but not for ordinary citizens of the country.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 August 2020 08: 49
      12
      Quote: Silvestr
      we had the best finance minister Kudrin, now the best Nabiulina, the best president!

      They are the best because Western capital is happy with them ...
  7. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 9 August 2020 07: 15
    +7
    If it were not for the Central Bank's firm course towards financial stabilization and if it were not for the categorical rejection of direct financial support for citizens and the business sector, the consequences of the coronavirus and the fall in oil prices could have been much worse.

    Come on...
    These citizens, like Nabiulina, Siluanov and others like them, say all the way that people in the Russian Federation have become better and more satisfying ... only they do not specify WHAT people.


    I won't wish anything good on her, that's for sure.
    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 9 August 2020 07: 30
      0
      Don't torment yourself with hope
  8. bandabas
    bandabas 9 August 2020 07: 16
    +4
    Well, this is normal, when they talk about super mini inflation in the "zomboyaschik", banks offer to carry money at meager interest rates and try to shove loans at exorbitant prices right there. It comes to insanity. I opened a deposit last year, and immediately a "profitable" offer - take a loan at ... twenty percent. When asked why, on the contrary, I invest, the answer is, "Well, you need money." The curtain.
  9. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 9 August 2020 07: 29
    13
    If Putin was not behind her, then no lobby kept her there and it is not necessary to say that Putin was forced, Putin is a liberal to the bone, this is the same Eltsin, only sober
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 9 August 2020 08: 01
      -8
      Quote: rotkiv04
      If Putin was not behind her,

      1. The Central Bank is a legal entity independent from the state;
      2. Only the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has the exclusive right to issue cash and organize cash circulation;
      3. Without the permission of the Bank of Russia, the state cannot dispose of the property, and even more so the country's foreign exchange reserves;
      4. The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, and the Bank of Russia - for the obligations of the state;
      5. The relationship of currencies is regulated by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation regardless of the government of the Russian Federation;
      6. The Bank of Russia is entitled to apply for protection of its interests to international courts, courts of foreign states and arbitration courts;
      7. The Bank of Russia in the financial sector can give directions, regulations and instructions on what needs to be done, both for state governing bodies, and for legal entities and individuals, and everyone must comply with them implicitly;
      8. The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation, but it is allowed to lend to the economies of other countries;
      9. The Bank of Russia is absolutely not obliged to comply with the orders of the President, the State Duma, the Ministry of Finance and any other government bodies.
      10. The Chairman of the Bank of Russia is almost impossible to dismiss until his term of office has expired, even if he does poor work or simply refuses to comply with government orders.
      11. IMF (International Monetary Fund) is the only structure whose instructions the Central Bank must follow.



      More details in the source: http://sneg5.com/obshchestvo/dengi/komu-prinadlezhit-centrobank.html
      1. depressant
        depressant 9 August 2020 13: 05
        +1
        Yes, Boris, according to federal law N36-FZ, the aim of the Central Bank's work is not to develop the economy, if it is not the financial sector.
        But what a misfortune!
        When Sber was sold, they immediately began to fool us. After all, what was widely said in the press? It was said for a long time and persistently, and we discussed it here and believed the noodles. They say that the Central Bank will receive from 2 trillion 139 billion rubles only 700 billion to cover Nabiullina's punctures, which arose due to the too sluggish activity of central bank inspectors when closing toxic banks, which allowed the latter to withdraw dirty dollars abroad through the mediation of ... the same Central Bank. We closed our eyes to this - Sberbank is now ours! Yes, the Central Bank will return more than 1 trillion 439 billion rubles to the budget in tranches over 3 years, but it will be the same!
        Naive ...
        There are two points.
        Firstly, it turned out that foreign shareholders were hanging on Sberbank, who, as they were withdrawing their huge dividends, imposed a ridiculous percentage, are withdrawing, because God forbid, the state will get half of Sberbank's profits.
        Secondly. Is everyone aware that on March 12, 2020, a law was passed quietly, without much publicity, according to which out of the 2 trillion 139 billion rubles paid for the Sberbank, the budget loses not 700 billion in the form of Gesheft by Nabiullina, but more than 1 trillion rubles? Here's what that law says:

        1) 75 billion - closing the book value of shares in the Central Bank;
        2) 300 billion rubles - to the income of the Central Bank;
        3) about 200 billion rubles will remain in the Central Bank to cover losses from reorganization;
        4) transfer of rights of claim to VEB RF - 350,45 billion;
        5) transfer of rights of claim to Sberbank - RUB 150 billion;
        6) the balance is transferred in cash to the budget of the Russian Federation.
        Total:

        2 trillion 139 billion - 75 billion - 300 billion - 200 billion - 350,45 billion - 150 billion =
        = 1 trillion 63,55 billion

        That is, about 400 billion rubles already at the start of the transaction according to the law of March 12, like a cow licked its tongue!
        And who said that Nabiullina will get good and will return the rest of the money to the budget in tranches within 3 years? Did she promise this to Putin? Yes, fullness! Under federal law 50-FZ, the Central Bank is independent from the government and the president. Therefore, he took the money and waved his hand to Nabiullina as a sign of farewell, no matter how the government and the president folded their hands in supplication. And there is no such norm in the updated Constitution that would become the basis for placing the Central Bank under state control. So the budget money was crying in the amount of more than a trillion!
      2. bandabas
        bandabas 9 August 2020 20: 52
        +1
        This is all clear. Question. How does this relate to the security of the country? The answer is the destruction of the country. At least financially.
      3. Revival
        Revival 10 August 2020 16: 12
        0
        So,
        1. A patriot of a country is obliged to act for the good of the people and the country, not even sparing health and life, right?
  10. mag nit
    mag nit 9 August 2020 07: 50
    +3
    It is a pity that Putin is neither dream nor spirit about this ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 9 August 2020 08: 14
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: mag nit
      It is a pity that Putin is neither dream nor spirit about this ...

      During the first term of his presidency, he tried to nationalize the Central Bank - it did not work out. Perhaps it will work now, when, according to the updated Constitution, our laws will be higher than foreign ones.
    2. RUnnm
      RUnnm 9 August 2020 09: 00
      +6
      Are you seriously ?)))
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 9 August 2020 09: 07
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: RUnnm
        Are you seriously ?)))

        Quite. Read the law on the Central Bank, or at least watch the video about it in the post above. Yes, and for all minus. If your cons to me, changed the law on the Central Bank, then I would be only glad. wink
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 9 August 2020 09: 15
          +4
          Take off your rose-colored glasses !!! We have just changed the system of government with amendments to the constitution, we just changed the relationship again, and the legislative branches of power, having introduced some kind of State Council, reset the term, but the Central Bank cannot attach itself to sovereign legislation. Can't we audit the actions of the Central Bank on our own and break the contract with nabiulin (at least) and so on? Well, it's just ridiculous to read maxims like that he would like to, but he cannot ... or has he not seen a scam with the sale at the expense of our Sberbank taxes? Or maybe he will tell you where in the midst of the crisis the Central Bank brought this 1.3 trillion rubles?
          No, dear, if you see a problem, but DO NOT ACTUALLY solve it, then you yourself become a part of this problem.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 9 August 2020 09: 59
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: RUnnm
            We have just changed the system of government by amendments to the constitution,

            Amendments to the Constitution have been adopted, but the laws are not yet available. This remains to be done.

            Quote: RUnnm
            but the Central Bank cannot be fastened to sovereign legislation.

            We cannot until all amendments to the Constitution are legislatively formalized in the form of laws and by-laws.

            Quote: RUnnm
            Well, it's just ridiculous to read sentences like that he would like to, but he cannot

            Maybe? Imagine that today Putin will issue a decree on the nationalization of the Central Bank. What do you think will follow, what will be the response from the IMF? How many people will be taken out into the streets by "our" bourgeois in the name of saving the interests of our enemies?

            In Khabarovsk, in order to keep the financial flow in his hands, Zhirinovsky, hiding behind "good" intentions, organized mass protests and this is not the richest man in Russia. Can you imagine what the richer bourgeoisie can do to the country?

            It took Putin 20 years of preparatory work to start changing the Constitution, and you say the Central Bank cannot ... It can, but later. Work in this direction is underway. Quickly you can only pull the lace panties over your head up to your neck.



            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 9 August 2020 10: 24
              +7
              I will not say anything about the first two points, because it’s just ridiculous to read that 20 years at the helm was not enough and we must be patient a little more.
              But regarding the "privatization" of the Central Bank, I will answer in more detail. 1. What kind of "privatization" we are talking about, if all the assets of the Central Bank already belong to the state, but the Central Bank disposes of at its own discretion. As, for example, 1.3 trillion for the Sberbank, which we already owned.
              2. Why should I, a citizen of the Russian Federation, be worried about the reaction of the IMF, speaking about the body responsible for conducting monetary policy INSIDE my country? The one who recently participated in the murder of industry, the economy of my country?
              You can object in the sense that the modern world of finance is globalized and the IMF plays the first fiddle in it, but ... this is all true regarding the banana republics dependent on the fund, and Russia is now sovereign in this regard and I want it to remain so ... Therefore, the reaction of the IMF to our internal decisions is absolutely uninteresting to me.
              Regarding the fear of the influence of the "bourgeois" you yourself count, because on the one hand, you are in favor of maintaining the status quo with respect to one of the instruments of this influence, and on the other hand, you recognize its destructive role in society.
              And again, as to how Zhirinovsky arranged everything .... sorry, the state does not have bodies and services that, if desired, would be twisted into a ram's horn? It is for the crimes committed by him, objectively ... and according to the situation with obtaining a plot of land for his "institute", and for pedophilia (evaluative, subjective judgment), etc., and so on.
              And if these services have not done anything, and this is indeed the work of G, then do you think that such inaction raises even deeper and more serious questions?
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 9 August 2020 10: 41
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: RUnnm
                I won't say anything about the first two points, because it's just ridiculous to read that 20 years at the helm was not enough ...

                Remind you which country he took? Was it before the Central Bank?

                Quote: RUnnm
                What kind of "privatization" are we talking about, if all the assets of the Central Bank already belong to the state?

                The state in the Central Bank only owns chairs.

                Quote: RUnnm
                Why should I, a citizen of the Russian Federation, be worried about the reaction of the IMF when speaking about the body responsible for conducting monetary policy INSIDE my country?

                Because if the IMF presses the buttons on its computer, then our enterprises will stop, and the hungry people will protest and sweep away any power. In this case, the country will roll back to the Stone Age.

                Quote: RUnnm
                And if these services have not done anything, and this is indeed the work of G, then do you think that such inaction raises even deeper and more serious questions?

                "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

                "Everything happens in the best way in accordance with the real morality and ethics of all participants in the process"
                1. RUnnm
                  RUnnm 9 August 2020 10: 48
                  +2
                  On the question of power, money (which, in principle, are synonyms) do you rely on the fact that the morality of the participants in the division will save us?))) Bravo!)))
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 9 August 2020 10: 57
                    -8
                    Quote: RUnnm
                    On the question of power, money (which, in principle, are synonyms) do you rely on the fact that the morality of the participants in the division will save us?))) Bravo!)))

                    You forget about the people, which is the main participant in all processes taking place in society. Otherwise, the bourgeoisie would not go broke on 20 free TV channels to fool the people in their own interests.

                    By the way. The Central Bank does not have to privatize and run into trouble. Most recently, the state bought a controlling stake from Sberbank, i.e. a parallel structure is created - control is intercepted. Which of the two will survive - time will tell, but for some reason it seems to me that ours will survive.
                    1. RUnnm
                      RUnnm 9 August 2020 11: 00
                      +4
                      Stop it! The people are just a tool in this matter. Remember the well-known expression about who carries out revolutions and who uses their results.
                      Forgive me, but do not tell me, but who owned Sberbank before ?? !! From whom did we buy it for 1.3 trillion ???
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 9 August 2020 11: 03
                        -7
                        Quote: RUnnm
                        Stop it! The people are just a tool in this matter.

                        Last post. Quotes only.

                        "Verily, Allah does not change what is with the people, until they themselves change what is with them." (Quran 13: 12)

                        “... the kingdom of God will not come in a noticeable way, and they will not say: behold, it is here, or: behold, there. For behold, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17: 20-21)

                        "Until the idea takes possession of the masses, it is dead" - K. Marx.

                        And again: "Everything happens in the best way in accordance with the real morality and ethics of all participants in the process" - COB

                        Thanks for the chat. Until. hi
                      2. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 9 August 2020 11: 12
                        -1
                        Mutually. Thanks for the dialogue!
              2. Revival
                Revival 10 August 2020 16: 16
                +1
                How do you manage to push the idea of ​​complete uselessness and helplessness for so many years !?
          2. bk0010
            bk0010 9 August 2020 13: 11
            +3

            It is a pity that the Bolsheviks did not come to this Rothschild. Before being shot, he would have realized how wrong he was.
          3. Varyag71
            Varyag71 12 August 2020 11: 40
            -1
            Hmm. I wrote such nonsense. Comrade, you urgently need psychiatric help!
  • depressant
    depressant 9 August 2020 08: 49
    +8
    And not so long ago the auditors of the Accounts Chamber came to the Central Bank, or rather, the well-known Kudrin as the current head of this toothless organization. Remember his devastating report, which Kudrin shook before Putin and was uncharacteristically angry for himself? Like, I'm not like Nabiullina.
    The essence of the report, in brief, boiled down to the fact that the Central Bank slows down the economy. And the cleansing of the banking sector of the economy from toxic banks, which is credited to the Central Bank with many exclamation marks, benefited only the Central Bank and Sberbank. Sberbank, supposedly bought out by the state, suddenly appeared - well, wow! And where were the eyes when they bought! - a bunch of foreign shareholders who, with calm diligence, continue to withdraw their dividends abroad, and the Central Bank opened a broad and bright dollar path to this phenomenon. And the law enforcement officers who got up were both rolled and rolled back - remember this weak attempt of theirs? And above everything - the smug Gref smile of the Cheshire Cat - and how frightened at first when announcing the sale of Sberbank. But Nabiullina does not give up her ...

    And what is the cost of increasing lending to individuals? Build up stubborn and wicked? Look, Vladimir Vladimirovich, do you see these endless rows of cars? See how many mortgages they took? The country is blooming! The economy is booming! And all this is ours, the Central Bank's merit, - adds Nabiullina modestly. And the fact that at the same time lending to the real sector of the economy is stubbornly declining, Nabiullina is modestly silent. And for what it will be glorified when it suddenly turns out that there is nothing to pay on loans for the very rows of cars and apartments taken on a mortgage due to the collapse of the real economy? Maybe for a sharp reduction in jobs - those that we still have, and entrepreneurs still find the strength to heroically resist the vile credit policy of the Central Bank by spending their own rapidly dwindling cash reserves? Maybe for this? Only our economy will hardly praise Nabiullina for this when it starts to collapse due to a lack of credit funds. Well, maybe the IMF and others are the same.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 9 August 2020 08: 51
    +2
    Very interesting article. In the sense that such a sacred cow as the Central Bank rarely tries to pull into the spotlights.
    It seems that there is not much point in discussing personalities. There will be no Nabiulin, there will be someone else. Anyone who does not answer the question of where 1.3 trillion rubles went for the Sberbank sold to itself, the one who does not answer the question of why the Central Bank, managing state property, is not responsible for this and does it only at its own discretion, there will be no one to answer and to the question about joint actions of the Central Bank and the government's economic bloc, for example, in the person of Dvorkovich and his faithful, who practically "put" such banks as KMB, Consent, etc. into their pockets, bringing them almost to bankruptcy, and then closing their own crimes our taxes from the DIA. And there are a lot of such questions, but there is not even a trace of actions to return the Central Bank under state control ... And as a result, the question arises, is there a problem with Nabiulin?
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 9 August 2020 09: 09
      +3
      In addition: I was very upset by the presence in the thread of comments like "but GDP is not in the know," or that it cannot do anything. Seriously? Just now, we, in fact, changed the constitution, overturning the entire structure of the executive and legislative bodies, and the Central Bank issue is not under our control ?! Well, this is childish babble and attempts to convince themselves that the top officials have not divided the spheres of power among themselves, and that there are also those who care about the people ... holy naivety !!))
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 August 2020 09: 25
        0
        Quote: RUnnm
        In addition: I was very upset by the presence in the thread of comments like "but GDP is not in the know," or that it cannot do anything. Seriously? Just now, we, in fact, changed the constitution, overturning the entire structure of the executive and legislative bodies, and the Central Bank issue is not under our control ?! Well, this is childish babble and attempts to convince themselves that the top officials have not divided the spheres of power among themselves, and that there are also those who care about the people ... holy naivety !!))

        "Seems to me, gentlemen, it was a comedy." - I mean sarcasm ...
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 9 August 2020 09: 26
          -1
          Well, if you eat like that ...
  • Shilka
    Shilka 9 August 2020 09: 01
    +2
    If Nabibulina is praised in the west, then her stigma is in her cannon.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 August 2020 09: 22
    +1
    As we are presented in the press this or that personality, so we evaluate it. Some will not breathe on the "Iron Lady". Although many Englishmen do not share this opinion. Because of my ignorance, I think the Central Bank was the conductor of foreign currency to our country.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 9 August 2020 09: 59
    +5
    Quote: rotkiv04
    Putin is a liberal to the bone, this is the same Eltsin, only sober
    and more cunning and hypocritical ...
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 9 August 2020 12: 45
      +4
      I agree that EBN was straightforward and simple-minded, and this cunning and thus dangerous, as he continues the policy of EBN.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 August 2020 10: 21
    +3
    This is the position of just a government official. High-ranking, but an official. Today one has been appointed, he will be praised / scolded. Tomorrow, another will be appointed. He will also be praised / scolded in exactly the same way. Without any connection with the business and professional qualities of the madam, everyone cannot be pleased. Someone praises, someone scolds.
    There is no need to be a great sage in order to rely on previous experience to realize that in modern conditions the average man should be prepared for the vicissitudes of the state's economic policy. At any time, you can get hit by devaluation (against the background of a virus, volatile oil prices, etc., this is quite a possible thing), denomination (this issue has recently been raised, but somehow unexpectedly and strangely it has completely died down, and this is not just crossing out a zero or two, this is a whole chain of shocks for the layman). As a result, a sharp change in the ruble exchange rate is possible.
    How to be prepared for this? There are not many options, alas. Those who can, stock up on the feasible amount of hated foreign banknotes. They are, of course, candy wrappers and cut paper, but at the same time, ironically, they are also quite a decent support, a kind of lifeline that does not completely solve the problem, but does not let you drown.
    What should those who do not have the financial resources to purchase props and circles do? I have no answer. Excuse me. I won't laugh and make fun of Medvedev's kind and completely free advice. A normal person won't turn his tongue. I know well, because in my own skin I felt and studied the situation when a family is in my arms (two children + old people), and the refrigerator is empty, a bunch of unpaid bills and the owner of a rented apartment is trying to call you ...
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 9 August 2020 10: 36
    +9
    Foreign colleagues and the media loved Nabiullina not so long ago: in 2015, Euromoney magazine named the Chairman of the Bank of Russia the best head of the Central Bank for maintaining macroeconomic stability. A year later, a British business publication named her "the best head of the Central Bank" in Europe.

    So take it for yourself, we will also pay extra :)))))
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 9 August 2020 11: 06
    +7
    But Putin appreciates it.
    He said many times that she was doing everything right, awarded her relatively recently.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 9 August 2020 12: 54
      +3
      Here, many naively assume that she is independent and does all this herself. In fact, without permission, which is zeroed, it does nothing, like all the country's officials.
      The entire vertical of power works like this: officials wait for direct instructions from above, or if they have personal initiatives, then without their approval from above they will never begin to do anything. And since everyone is afraid to do something wrong, everyone does not do anything, but wait for the personal instructions of the guarantor.
      Good system! As the saying goes, the full "paragraph".
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 9 August 2020 12: 21
    +3
    Because the ruble "danced" again, it is clear who Nabiulina is saving. Our relatives and non-native speculators from the business. Is it not to save the real economy? Naive!
  • Mister who
    Mister who 9 August 2020 12: 38
    0
    Banks perform the function of printing money and enriching their owners at the expense of the people's investments, without giving a profit for these investments! In the interests of the people, banks in their current state must be dissolved and a new monetary system of investments under state guarantees and giving real profit must be built. With the current interest rates, they thus do not allow people's money to the pie
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 August 2020 12: 52
    0
    There is a forecast that Nabiullina will leave before October.
  • iouris
    iouris 9 August 2020 12: 53
    +2
    "Centrospas" saves us. The "Central Bank" makes money on us (for whom?)
  • IC
    IC 9 August 2020 17: 58
    +1
    The policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation cannot be considered in isolation from the entire stagnating economy of the country and the economic policy of the state. When the course of the economy is determined in the absence of political competition, nothing good can be expected.
    1. Aag
      Aag 11 August 2020 14: 58
      0
      Quote: IMS
      The policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation cannot be considered in isolation from the entire stagnating economy of the country and the economic policy of the state. When the course of the economy is determined in the absence of political competition, nothing good can be expected.

      If there were a sane economic, financial course (s), there would be no need for political competition. Here the cause can change with the effect in places. Within the laws of epistemology ...))
  • Mister who
    Mister who 9 August 2020 19: 07
    +1
    New real reforms should begin with the banking system, people's investments will become a second wind for the state, we do not need foreign money, we have enough of our own (a trillion bucks will be collected from the people?) ! )) The banking system is like a litmus test - it shows in which direction everything moves or stands still))
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  • spectr
    spectr 10 August 2020 10: 06
    0
    The state is a complex mechanism. The key people in it are no longer people, but "functions" that maintain the mechanism in working order. The Central Bank is one of the tools that simplifies this process. There is no place in this chain for ordinary people, they will already follow the leftover principle. There cannot be "us" here.
    And the theme, as I understand it, is for the s r and h.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 10 August 2020 13: 05
    0
    They will rescue as usual:
    2000 oil 37 dollar 28r
    2011 oil 116 dollar 29r
    2020 oil 45 dollar 74r
    That is, we are already 2011 times poorer than 2,5, the government will continue to bring down the ruble, since it cannot build the economy, as Putin promised 20 million slaves, salary of $ 2700, all apartments, it's not my fault crisis, but now I promise again. You already live well, middle class 17000 rubles.
  • loaln
    loaln 10 August 2020 16: 03
    0
    It's amazing to ask such questions.
    No matter how disguised the Central Bank is - it is an instrument of the STATE.
    And what is the state, in turn?
    That's right, an instrument of FORCING the masses in the name of ensuring the interests of the ruling class.
    And who is the ruling class under capitalism?
    Well, why are you asking stupid questions then?
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 22 August 2020 19: 05
    +1
    Everything was clear to me about the Soviet merchant thieves; the landing principle was clear. Lived well, let others live the same way. But as for the financial spheres of the economy, it is not always clear. Now many are criticizing the head of the Central Bank, Gref. And I had a thought. Or maybe our system is based on these incomprehensible maneuvers of the Central Bank.?