To whom can I bear my sorrow? Homeless regiment of officers

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Everyone knows the proverb that begins with the words "they wait for the promised three years." But not everyone is aware that this proverb also has a second part, which ends it: "... but the fourth is denied!" What is the meaning of this proverb, I think there is no need to explain. And so everything is clear. It is much more terrible that it is still not only the place to be, but also very relevant. Especially when it comes to housing.

Everyone has long heard different stories about long-term construction projects, defrauded equity holders, one-day real estate firms ... In a word, about everything related to housing issues. However, what will be discussed below stands apart even in this series of stories. And first of all, because people waiting for their honestly earned square meters of housing are led by the nose not by some construction company, insolent official or unscrupulous realtor, but by a whole department. Yes, not just any, but one of the most authoritative in the country: the Ministry of Defense! At the same time, we are not talking about dozens, following the lead, but about many hundreds of people in uniform. To be absolutely precise - about a thousand two hundred people.



Some of them are still serving; someone retired to the reserve, having given their homeland twenty-five to thirty years, and someone by age has already moved into the category of retirees. But everyone has one problem: they cannot get housing, which is due to them according to the federal law "On the status of military personnel." And all this is happening not in the vast expanses of the country, but in one region - in the city of Moscow. The main paradox lies in the fact that de jure they were provided with apartments: in new houses of the microdistrict under construction on Levoberezhnaya Street. De facto, people cannot enter them for a banal reason: the houses are not completed and the city does not accept them on its balance sheet.

According to the terms of the state contract, the general contractor, the company "SU-155", was supposed to build these houses and transfer all the apartments to the military department in the fourth quarter of 2014 (the project was implemented by the Russian Ministry of Defense together with the Moscow government). However, something went wrong, and in the same 2014 the contractor "SU-155" went bankrupt. The work was completely stopped; not a single apartment was handed over to the military. Despite this, the Department of Housing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation distributed apartments among officers and citizens dismissed from military service, giving everyone a notice of the preliminary distribution of specific residential premises in specific buildings. Thus, a tick in the column "providing housing for citizens in need of better housing conditions through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" was put.

The owners of virtual apartments, of course, were upset, but they did not particularly dramatize the situation. Anything can happen in life ... They were assured that the military department had taken over the completion of the apartments within the framework of the state contract concluded with the General Directorate for the Arrangement of Troops JSC. And in 2015, everyone will definitely move into their apartments according to the notices on hand. Then, without further explanation, the entry period was moved by one year. Then for one more, and another, and another ... This December it will be exactly six years since a whole regiment of officers (together with family members - almost a division) is milling about in various corners of Moscow, occupying mainly the service fund of the Ministry of Defense. Some of the "happy" owners of notices during this time have grown up children, giving birth to their own and adding new members to the family; someone did not live, leaving his wife alone to wait for her own home ...

The most offensive thing is that no matter where the representatives of this regiment turn, they are answered: the apartment has been allocated to you, you just have to wait for the city to accept the houses on balance. But no one knows how long to wait. Even the Deputy Head of the Construction Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Panchenko, who, responding to another appeal on this issue, explained that in the Federal Law of 02.12.2019 No. 380-FZ "On the federal budget for 2020 and the planning period of 2021 and 2022" budget funds to complete the construction of these residential buildings are not provided. Neither add nor subtract!

In connection with the above, only one point is interesting. If today outside the window stood the 90s, when the country did not have enough money even to provide the military department with fuel for conducting exercises, this topic could not even be raised. But today the situation has changed dramatically. The state armament program is being actively implemented, international army games are being held and tank biathlon, hundreds of thousands of square meters of service housing are rented annually for military personnel, the Main Temple of the Armed Forces is being built ... Is it possible that the military department does not have enough funds to bring to mind the houses that are actually built? It seems that Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu simply does not know about this problem, because there has long been a tick in the “Provision of housing ...” column (see above) ...

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  1. -5
    8 August 2020 10: 10
    all over there are cyclists ... and Shoigu.
    And who else?
    1. -5
      8 August 2020 10: 25
      Quote: antivirus
      cyclists

      And, motorcyclists.
      1. 0
        8 August 2020 12: 59
        Quote: bober1982
        Quote: antivirus
        cyclists

        And, motorcyclists.

        programmers, motorists and the rest are theists ...
        1. +5
          8 August 2020 19: 12
          If you just whine on social networks, nothing will change! You need to write off, agree, arrive in Moscow and in full dress uniform with all the awards go to Red Square and announce your LEGAL requirements! As in Khabarovsk! Such power always notices and begins to work in the mode of a scalded cat! It is unlikely that they will be rammed - after all, the officers, albeit retired, but the authorities are now trying not to irritate the security officials and even increase their salaries (in some categories). So, let the authorities shake their beloved oligarchs, who are not in Russia, but there are effective businessmen who are so hard-boiled that in Russia they already do not have enough space and they throw their loot in the form of gold into the UK! Like Suleiman Kerimov, who, in addition to being a senator, also became the richest "Russian", pushing Potanin out of first place! Who does not remember, Kerimov is the same senator from the SovFed whom the French took for a Faberge and arranged a vacation in their jail. Because he transported loot with suitcases and cheated in France, which for some reason is not approved by the paddling pool!
        2. vka
          0
          12 August 2020 06: 05
          Quote: PSih2097
          Quote: bober1982
          Quote: antivirus
          cyclists

          And, motorcyclists.

          programmers, motorists and the rest are theists ...

          then only niggas stayed
  2. -2
    8 August 2020 10: 22
    The Department of Housing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation notifies that from December 1, 2019 from JSC "Main Directorate of Arrangement of Troops" to the management of operating organizations in Moscow, residential buildings located at the addresses:

    st. Polina Osipenko - to the management of the state budgetary institution of Moscow "Zhilischnik Khoroshevsky district" (subscriber station at the address: Moscow, Polina Osipenko st., 8);
    st. Levoberezhnaya - to the management of the state budgetary institution of Moscow "Zhilischnik of the Khovrino district" (subscriber station at the address: Moscow, Levoberezhnaya st., 4, building 3)
    1. +12
      8 August 2020 12: 58
      My dear Muscovites, let me now ...
      Your service is both dangerous and difficult ...
      1. -4
        8 August 2020 14: 52
        Quote: iouris
        My dear Muscovites, let me now ...
        Your service is both dangerous and difficult ...

        not funny...
    2. +1
      8 August 2020 13: 13
      Quote: carstorm 11
      The Department of Housing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation notifies that from December 1, 2019 from JSC "Main Directorate of Arrangement of Troops" to the management of operating organizations in Moscow, residential buildings located at the addresses:

      st. Polina Osipenko - to the management of the state budgetary institution of Moscow "Zhilischnik Khoroshevsky district" (subscriber station at the address: Moscow, Polina Osipenko st., 8);
      st. Levoberezhnaya - to the management of the state budgetary institution of Moscow "Zhilischnik of the Khovrino district" (subscriber station at the address: Moscow, Levoberezhnaya st., 4, building 3)

      I do not know all the intricacies of this situation, but I know well that a huge number of officers who served in Moscow received housing from the Ministry of Defense not in the capital, but in the immediate suburbs, for example, Reutov, Balashikha, Mytishchi and a number of other districts that are geographically closer to the Moscow Ring Road. than some areas of new Moscow or the same Nekrasovka.
      I think that they were offered an alternative option for providing housing outside the capital, but for a number of reasons they refused, and now they have to wait for the completion of the long-term construction. Although I'm not sure what exactly happened, but I know several officers who served in Moscow, but lived in the near Moscow region, where they received quite decent apartments from the Ministry of Defense, which by the way was practiced in Soviet times. Therefore, I would like to know the current situation thoroughly, and in particular, what the Ministry of Defense has been doing to solve this problem over the past six years.
      1. -2
        8 August 2020 13: 17
        I devil only knows. just on the website of the Ministry of Defense it hangs infa that the city of the house took on the balance. I just copied it. the author writes that he did not take that surprised.
  3. +6
    8 August 2020 10: 27
    And in 2015, everyone will definitely move into their apartments according to the notices on hand. Then, without further explanation, the entry period was moved by one year. Then one more, and another, and another ...
    It seems that Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu simply does not know about this problem, because there has long been a tick in the “Provision of housing ...” column (see above) ...
    ... Apparently foreign agents and liberals have entrenched themselves in the Moscow Region, if this happens ...
    1. +5
      8 August 2020 10: 37
      But humanly, it's just insulting! As far back as I can remember, the military always had problems with housing. Both in the USSR and now.
      My uncle suffered in the 80s before going to the reserve. I moved in one town five times in three years! Then, just before leaving, I got a "kopeck piece" in the panel ...
      1. +5
        8 August 2020 10: 49
        It's a shame, of course, but the officials ticked the box and forgot about the people ..
        1. 0
          8 August 2020 11: 13
          Quote: parusnik
          It's a shame, of course, but the officials ticked the box and forgot about the people ..

          And now, in most cases, everything is done for the sake of a tick
      2. +2
        8 August 2020 17: 10
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        But humanly, it's just insulting! As far back as I can remember, the military always had problems with housing. Both in the USSR and now ..

        For the crew, this is not a problem, but a way of life. From 50 to 70% lived in a tavern or shared. There is only one answer: - "You spend six months at sea for 2 years. What's the difference to you." The family did not take the calculation. But the headquarters are all with apartments.
  4. 0
    8 August 2020 10: 37
    Mess and irresponsibility. An official, he is an official everywhere, rowing more rights for himself, but at the expense of responsibility, this is an unknown concept for him, as a rule! As a rule, for such irresponsible uncles, the garters are not weak and Schaub has to get off the ground, you either have to raise a fuss to the skies, or complain to your biggest uncle, yes so, Schaub it was publicly, Schaub did not get out later!
    It is not known how long this will continue for us!
    However, the situation is widespread in many places, not only here.
    PPP .... clarification. All the same, it is necessary to delve into the matter specifically, therefore my judgment is so, in general and in principle.
  5. 0
    8 August 2020 10: 38
    Bad enough. The money has already been optimized. And if something is completed, then
    before (about 10 years) putting the house on balance and, they wrote, cost a million. (in envelope)
    Apparently, someone does not want to fold.
  6. +7
    8 August 2020 11: 14
    I do not understand what the author is dissatisfied with, Crimeanash, cars in the yard. Still, it's good that someone who is dissatisfied with what is a Bandera member of the State Department who dreams of Navalny.
  7. +5
    8 August 2020 11: 19
    But ..., but our army is the best at building bridges, schools, kindergartens and hospitals, extinguishing fires, saving from floods and pouring bleach on Italian cities and heals and feeds all homeless people around the world, except for our own.
  8. +2
    8 August 2020 11: 42
    So write an open letter to Shoigu
  9. +5
    8 August 2020 12: 05
    Everyone chooses their own profession, are there problems with housing? Go into business, the following advice was given to teachers from the LADIES.
  10. +5
    8 August 2020 12: 56
    The Minister of Defense is a builder who is building something wrong. And how many colonels and generals (deputies for the rear) have already received two (three ... five) apartments, exchanging one forty-year-old for two twenty-year-olds in different districts? The whole list, plsta!
  11. -1
    8 August 2020 13: 08
    Again someone owes someone. And you yourself can’t help your beloved again? If such "modest" characters are our army, then it simply becomes scary for the country's defense capability.
    1. +2
      8 August 2020 17: 52
      Well, how would they have squeezed out their debt, or give it back. And in return, it turns out that they also have to bother, although they are supposed to have these apartments.
  12. +2
    8 August 2020 15: 23
    Out of sight, out of mind
    Who needs to take care of the former or a step away from it. Officials in uniform (regardless of position and rank) have their own shirt closer to the body.
  13. +2
    8 August 2020 17: 25
    "SU-155"

    Even Sobyanin was suing SU-155 for an apartment he had bought that had not been leased out on time. The developer then won the court, proving that the delay was due to the untimely allocation of the land plot by the city hall itself.

    However, something went wrong, and in the same 2014 the contractor "SU-155" went bankrupt.

    Did something just go wrong? In my opinion, this situation should be considered in a little more detail - it is very interesting. Drying wasn't about to go bankrupt. The largest company in Russia in terms of residential construction. She took government contracts left and right. On the eve of bankruptcy, the company was actively investing huge amounts of money in its development: it carried out a large-scale modernization of its precast concrete factories, bought new production facilities, renewed its fleet of equipment, created new departments within itself that replaced contractors, etc. If you are going to go bankrupt and lump with money, you will not invest billions in factories, equipment and production, which are somewhat more difficult to take with you than just money. Is not it? Balakin is certainly not an angel and his company had enough problems, the "outstanding" management of the company is generally a separate conversation. But he clearly did not intend to go bankrupt without completing the construction of state facilities. On the contrary, the company was clearly going to grow and develop actively.
    So what happened? Why, instead of the largest company today, we have a bunch of unfinished projects, and the "crisis manager" planted by banks has been slowly selling the company's property for 5 years (recently there was another auction for a piece of equipment) and all this time he is neatly paying himself a salary for such hectic activity? Academician Sergei Yuryevich Glazyev described such processes well - when banks, having given loans to companies, then took them for a causal place and, in fact, destroyed flourishing industries. Sergei Yuryevich did not cite Sushka as an example, but the situation here, they say, is exactly the same. Rosbank, Globex, VTB took part in the bankruptcy of Sushka. And we will now complete unfinished houses (there are not only houses of the Ministry of Defense - there are tens of billions of unfinished ones) at the expense of the budget - at our expense.
    And we have the Defense Ministry to blame, the contractor is to blame (SU-155), and the banks, as always, are out of business.
    1. -1
      9 August 2020 17: 49
      The fault is that we, by our own misunderstanding, call the state. In the USSR, such a situation simply could not be.
  14. -3
    8 August 2020 23: 32
    an apartment in Moscow to give for free? Let me remind you the cost of a one-room apartment in a Galima Khrushchev from 7kk, for this money you can buy 3 of the same 30 km from the Moscow Ring Road, and in rngions a couple of times more. Obviously not ordinary soldiers receive such housing. And we are not talking about odnushkas in khrushchebs. In general, what incredible feats one must perform before the native people for a gift of 10kk + rubles. Are there all the veterans of Syria and other hot spots? I doubt that there is someone from Moscow serving there, so there is no sympathy. Most likely they gave a ride to any general's kids.
    1. -1
      9 August 2020 03: 31
      Quote: swzero
      gave a ride to any general's kids

      You are an angry and hungry person. Moreover, he is also very narrow-minded.
      Moscow is a huge city; almost every tenth citizen of our country lives here. Naturally, there are a lot of military facilities in Moscow: commandant's offices, military registration and enlistment offices, universities and training centers, research centers, communication centers, air defense units, combat units and, even, formations, various security units, transport units, various bases and warehouses, General Staff their services and so on, so on.
      1. -2
        9 August 2020 15: 35
        instead of providing housing for 1000 people in Moscow, it is possible to provide housing 3k in the region or 6k in some Uryupinsk. You can go to work in Moscow and from the region. IMHO too bold.
        1. +1
          9 August 2020 23: 13
          Quote: swzero
          instead of providing housing for 1000 people in Moscow, you can provide 3k housing in the region

          Let me think for you if you are lazy.
          How much does the prime cost of housing for the Ministry of Defense, being built in Moscow, differ from housing being built in the region? There are two components in the cost of a new building:
          1) construction cost;
          2) the value of the land.

          They are built by the same developers according to the same projects (comparable, at least), materials are supplied by the same suppliers. Thus, the cost of the contract for the construction itself in Moscow and the region is comparable.
          Earth. Land in Moscow and in the region costs very different money. But. In this case, no one buys the land, it is simply allocated by the city / region. And, often, in such places, which no developer will covet. So in this case, this article is cleared.
          Thus, to build an apartment in the region and in Moscow costs about the same money. Suddenly? As for me, this is quite natural. Why then drive an officer from the region to Moscow to work if the costs of providing him with housing in Moscow itself are actually the same?

          Let's summarize. An apartment in Moscow is more expensive than in the region for two reasons:
          - Earth;
          - market pricing.
          In our case, neither the one nor the other component affects the costs of the Ministry of Defense. And that's a completely different story.
        2. -1
          10 August 2020 02: 17
          Quote: swzero
          in some Uryupinsk

          In the realities I have described above, the most expensive apartments in terms of cost will be somewhere in a newly built town in the tundra. Permafrost - increases the cost of the project. Distances make materials more expensive. Climatic conditions increase labor costs. The need to build in parallel the entire infrastructure from scratch (water intakes, boiler houses, kindergarten, school, etc.) - increases the cost of everything in general, and significantly. This is where the drunken children of the generals dug in! Let them walk from Moscow on foot like the antipodes of Lomonosov.
  15. +3
    9 August 2020 12: 30
    And how are the officers provided with housing in Uryupinsk?
  16. 0
    9 August 2020 13: 37
    I think that if there were comments first, which would then be combined, a gorgeous article would come out. Situations are different regions are different - but one boardroom is common for all and for employees and pensioners.
    I don’t know who and what thinks, but I have only one conclusion - There is no master in the country. All are just present and give recommendations. Therefore, there is no one to complain to. And you have to live in such a mess. And to be content with the fact that they will give them a little bit one or two, only in order to then report in full about the fulfillment of orders. And whoever gives orders reports above - the order was given - is carried out.
    It remains as in the Charter - to endure the hardships and hardships with determination ....... It's a shame for the family. She does not take the oath, it is for what sins they inflict such privations.
    IMHO hi
    1. +1
      9 August 2020 17: 44
      I don’t know who and what he thinks, but I have only one conclusion - There is no master in the country.

      Thieves and bribe-takers cannot and cannot be owners. And they don't want to.
  17. 0
    9 August 2020 17: 43
    It seems that Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu simply does not know about this problem, because there has long been a tick in the “Provision of housing ...” column (see above) ...

    Of course he doesn't know, but how else.
    1. +2
      9 August 2020 17: 59
      Quote: NordUral
      Of course he doesn't know, but how else.

      And do we have someone who knows something?
      When they wrote that half of the Russians live on a salary of 15 thousand ... What kind of eyes did Peskov have ?! And what did he say: - where does this data come from? That such data cannot be trusted. A week later went the standard procedure - AVERAGE "it was stated that the average salary is 41 thousand. And everyone calmed down.
      Well yes. the neighbor eats meat and I only eat cabbage ... And on average, we eat cabbage rolls.
      hi
  18. AX
    0
    10 August 2020 05: 51
    A tear came straight from what I read ... How do you survive there, in Moscow?
  19. -1
    13 August 2020 16: 12
    Quote: Dangerous
    Well, how would they have fulfilled their duty already,

    Have squeezed out - what is the correct word about military duty !!!!!!!!!
    The debt has been squeezed out, now the huts must be squeezed out !!!
  20. 0
    20 August 2020 06: 51

    As a continuation of the article, the film "Homeless Regiment" was released about the problems with providing housing for officers who were transferred to the reserve, about the inaction of officials of the Ministry of Defense and directly the Department of Housing

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