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Rzeczpospolita in a modern format: why the Lublin Triangle is being created

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Territory with claims to the Russian Crimea


Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine have created a new interstate association called the Lublin Triangle. As one would expect, such countries can be blocked, first of all, against Russia.

The Lublin Triangle project is very important for Poland


The Lublin Triangle, or the "Lublin Triangle", is a new union of three countries, which several centuries ago were part of one state - the Commonwealth. True, the role of the current Ukrainian lands in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is known. Apparently, Ukraine has been awarded approximately the same role as a junior partner today. It is significant that the city of Lublin was chosen as the place for creating a new political union of the three states, from which at one time began история Commonwealth

Given the insignificance of Lithuania and the political and economic weakness of Ukraine, Poland will be the undisputed leader of the new union. Warsaw expects that in due course Latvia, Moldova and even Belarus will join the "Lublin Triangle". The latter, after all, was also once part of the Commonwealth, but today Minsk still maintains allied relations with Moscow, although the "black strip" between the two countries has already passed.

For Poland, the creation of a new Eastern European bloc is a large and long-term project. Like Turkey, once a powerful empire, Poland considers itself a deprived and illegally curtailed state. At the same time, it is clear what to include modern Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, etc. Poland cannot. All that remains is a modernized version of the "empire" - to create an alliance in which Warsaw would be assigned an unambiguously dominant role.

Why the "Lublin Triangle" is beneficial for the United States and dangerous for Russia and the EU


The emergence of the "Lublin Triangle" is very beneficial for the United States. First, this structure will have a distinctly anti-Russian character. Under the leadership of Poland, a bloc will be created, which will be governed from Washington through Warsaw. Second, the “Lublin Triangle” undermines the unity of the European Union, as a kind of parallel structure is being formed in Eastern Europe, which includes both two EU members (Poland and Lithuania) and a non-EU country (Ukraine). Poland has a difficult relationship with the leadership of the European Union, so the role of a regional leader, who has an entire alliance of countries at his disposal, can strengthen Warsaw's position in the EU.


Leaders of the three countries of the new bloc. Photo: Sebastian Indra, Twitter / Ministerstwo Spraw Zagranicznych RP

For Russia, the emergence of the "Lublin Triangle" is becoming a potential source of new problems and headaches. First of all, the existence of such a bloc will undermine Russian-Belarusian relations, since Minsk will begin to consider the "Lublin Triangle" as an alternative to integration projects with Russia. Especially this tendency may intensify in the event of Alexander Lukashenko's resignation from the post of President of Belarus.

In addition, the "Lublin Triangle", due to its anti-Russian orientation, can take various hostile actions towards our country. It is clear that we are not talking about some kind of military action, which even all the countries of this bloc taken together will not pull, but economic sanctions, various customs disputes may well become a reality.

From an ideological point of view, the appearance of the "Lublin Triangle" underlines the difference between the Slavs of Eastern Europe - Poles and Ukrainians, and, in the long term, Belarusians, from Russians. The approval of an anti-Russian project, or an alternative East Slavic project, cultivating historical myths about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth will continue.

It is clear that it is still very, very premature to talk about the real political and economic possibilities of the new alliance. Time will tell how viable the "triangle" will be, whether it will collapse or turn into an even larger anti-Russian "Polish family" of Eastern European states.
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  1. Borik
    Borik 7 August 2020 14: 03 New
    19
    The map is not correct. Crimea is ours!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 7 August 2020 14: 12 New
      +4
      The latter, after all, was also once part of the Commonwealth, but today Minsk still maintains allied relations with Moscow, although the "black strip" between the two countries has already passed.

      Everything is according to the precepts of Albright and Brzezinski .. A ring of countries is being formed that will be sent to war with us .. It's amazing that everyone knows about this and turns a blind eye .. It won't dissolve by itself ..
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 7 August 2020 14: 40 New
        +2
        No, I think - this is a purely Polish initiative .. The clever gentlemen are driving their former serfs back into the stall .. And those - joyfully and with hooting rush there themselves. Voluntarily .. Bogdan Zinovy ​​Khmel and others like him turn over in a coffin, looking at their descendants.
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 7 August 2020 14: 44 New
        16
        Brzezinski and Albright have nothing to do with it. This is a normal historical process. Poles have dreamed of restoring the Commonwealth for centuries. We are their main enemy for centuries, too. Even when they were part of the empire, this did not change. The Intermarium project, which the Poles have licked for many years, is the new Rzeczpospolita. Accordingly, they simply use the moment to pick up our separatist fragments, or, in their opinion, their lost territories. If this entity leaves NATO ,. then a war with him is inevitable. Well, we have already fought three times with the GUAM bloc. The fact that we would have to somehow fight with Ukraine was clear to everyone back in 3. This was clear to the extreme left Limonov, the extreme right Zhirinovsky, and even the liberal Sobchak. Tch NATO is a global enemy, and we will most likely fight with this block of neighbors. request
        Avoid this? Complicated. Fortunately, we were lucky with the Maidan, which greatly weakened Ukraine, but it is far from the fact that we will continue to do so in the future. Create pro-Russian forces inside these hostile countries? And who will allow us to do that? Even if we try to create a pro-Russian party in Belarus, then soon Lukashenka and the whole country, dropping feces, will run under the wing of the West. This is a normal historical process. And most likely, sooner or later, it will lead to war - one or more. Maybe not tomorrow, but in decades, but it will. request
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 7 August 2020 14: 57 New
          0
          Quote: g1v2
          Brzezinski and Albright have nothing to do with it.

          Well, how nothing to do with:
          According to his official biography, he was born in Warsaw into the family of a Polish nobleman [9] and diplomat Tadeusz Brzezinski (1896-1990) and Leonia (née Roman; 1896-1985). According to other sources, he was born in the Polish consulate in Kharkov [10] [11] on Olminsky Street, where his parents worked; recorded by them was born in Poland [10].
          During the Clinton presidency, Brzezinski was the author of the concept of NATO expansion to the East [12].

          He was the chairman of the American-Ukrainian Advisory Committee [7].

          Do you really think that Poland rose so much on apples that it decided to unite the post-Soviet countries around itself and challenge Russia? At the same time, placing the American contingent on their territory and fighting for the deployment of missile defense ..
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 7 August 2020 15: 47 New
            +6
            I agree that there is a geopolitical aspect here. The Poles were initially fed as a buffer against us. You just don’t have to look for the exact reason in the West or the United States. There is also a completely regional dimension and ambitions of our neighboring states, which dream of the old days and new acquisitions. Brzezinski is a product of his people in the first place. He got Russophobia from there. And naturally, his actions were closely related to his upbringing.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 55 New
              -1
              Quote: g1v2
              You just don’t have to look for the exact reason in the West or the United States. There is also a completely regional dimension and ambitions of our neighboring states, which dream of the old days and new acquisitions. Brzezinski is a product of his people in the first place. He got Russophobia from there. And naturally, his actions were closely related to his upbringing.

              This is how the United States is using it. I am not a supporter of blaming the United States for all Russia's troubles, especially in terms of the economy, but here the wind is blowing from the United States.
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 17 New
          +1
          We must make Russia a successful country, the rest will follow.
          A weak and unsuccessful neighbor will always be a victim of the Lublin pack or any other.
          As for the Poles, I don’t think this is their idea. Uncle Sam’s work is obvious. He controls all the processes. Therefore, the Americans Dudu were re-elected, he licked everything inside and out before the elections.
        3. Alessio82
          Alessio82 11 August 2020 16: 09 New
          0
          I absolutely agree.
    2. Vend
      Vend 7 August 2020 14: 16 New
      +4
      I think this is a veiled application of Poland on the territory or part of these territories. Poland will not be allowed from sea to sea in Europe, for the United States such an alliance is beneficial.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 August 2020 15: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        I think this is a veiled application of Poland on the territory or part of these territories. Poland will not be allowed from sea to sea in Europe, for the United States such an alliance is beneficial.

        Poles forge iron, while in the limitrophes, "swan, cancer and pike." They create the Great Rzeczpospolita "from can to can", and they can succeed if Europe turns a blind eye to it. Although, as the British said to Pilsudski in 1920, "We do not need Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on the USSR."
        1. Vend
          Vend 7 August 2020 15: 50 New
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Wend
          I think this is a veiled application of Poland on the territory or part of these territories. Poland will not be allowed from sea to sea in Europe, for the United States such an alliance is beneficial.

          Poles forge iron, while in the limitrophes, "swan, cancer and pike." They create the Great Rzeczpospolita "from can to can", and they can succeed if Europe turns a blind eye to it. Although, as the British said to Pilsudski in 1920, "We do not need Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on the USSR."

          If Europe did not have problems with a shortage of land, they could have allowed it, but there are enough people willing to these territories, so Europe will not allow it, and Russia will also be against it. Sufficiency of them, that after the Great Patriotic War, Stalin restored Poland as a state. But Poland might not exist
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 August 2020 16: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: Wend
            Sufficiency of them, that after the Great Patriotic War, Stalin restored Poland as a state. But Poland might not exist

            Yeah ! Comrade Stalin got excited about this question.
            1. Ramon Merkader
              Ramon Merkader 7 August 2020 17: 58 New
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine

              Yeah ! Comrade Stalin got excited about this question.

              Fiercely plus
        2. Narcologist
          Narcologist 7 August 2020 16: 42 New
          -1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Poles forge iron, while in the limitrophes, "swan, cancer and pike." They create the Great Rzeczpospolita "from can to can", and they can succeed if Europe turns a blind eye to it.

          Vlad, as long as Russia exists, they will never be able to do this .. We know their essence and more than once they stepped on the rake that was set up for us ..
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Although, as the British said to Pilsudski in 1920, "We do not need Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on the USSR."

          Well, there Cherchel very aptly noticed about Poland .. lol
        3. Campanella
          Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 19 New
          0
          Ghouls will dock! Then they will blame the mirror again.
    3. Orange
      Orange bigg 7 August 2020 14: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      The map is not correct. Crimea is ours!

      I agree. According to the New Constitution of July 1, 2020, criminal liability is provided for encroachment on the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation. So the card needs to be changed.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 7 August 2020 14: 26 New
        +1
        contrast Slavs of Eastern Europe - Poles and Ukrainians, and in the future, Belarusians, from Russians
        This is the essence of this triangle!
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 7 August 2020 14: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Borik
      Crimea is ours!

      Even children know it
    5. Looking for
      Looking for 7 August 2020 14: 58 New
      -2
      "Our Crimea" is a cowardly expression. Pravilnoe-CRIMEA RUSSIAN !!!
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    7. Andobor
      Andobor 7 August 2020 16: 46 New
      -1
      Quote: Borik
      The map is not correct. Crimea is ours!

      Yes, not a map, but a criminal offense.
    8. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 7 August 2020 17: 59 New
      -3
      The map is not correct. Crimea is ours!

      Are you a cartographer? Or do you understand? Can you speak officially? In vain you keep yourself in the shadows! We have always lacked Borisov.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 August 2020 14: 06 New
    +4
    Why is OUR Crimea smeared with something on the map? Poland and Hungary (and Romania a little bit) can very strongly "break" VNA, in the style of Yugoslavia ... Poland's good intentions towards Ukraine ??? Does anyone believe this?
    1. Potomac
      Potomac 7 August 2020 14: 19 New
      -4
      I will say it as a resident of that very Ukraine. There is no faith, neither Poland, nor Russia, nor Turkey. The only plus of such an alliance, with Poland it is possible and necessary to talk on equal terms, it is not stronger in any way. Despite the slighted greatness of the local gentry. Relations with the Russian Federation are possible, alas, only from the position of a younger brother. About Turkey, I generally keep quiet, with those clearly not on the way.
      1. Orange
        Orange bigg 7 August 2020 14: 26 New
        +2
        it is possible and necessary to talk with Poland on equal terms, it is not stronger in any way.

        Brothers in mind are straight.
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      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 August 2020 16: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Potomac
        The only plus of such an alliance, with Poland it is possible and necessary to talk on equal terms, it is not stronger in any way.

        No one will talk to you on an equal footing anymore, Marshal Pilsudski, in his Direction to the leadership of the Volyn Front of March 1, 1920, wrote
        "The head of state and the Polish government are in the position of unconditional weakening of Russia ... Currently, the Polish government intends to support the national Ukrainian movement (to support Ukrainian separatists) in order to create an independent Ukrainian state and in this way significantly weaken Russia, tearing away from it the richest in grain and natural resources of the outskirts.The leading idea of ​​creating an independent Ukraine is to create a barrier between Poland and Russia and transition of Ukraine under Polish influence "So the Poles have their own interest in you, was, is and will be, and of course not equal. You have a good desire, but reality says something else. It's time to understand who you really are.
        1. Potomac
          Potomac 7 August 2020 16: 33 New
          -1
          The wishes of the Poles are purely their business. No matter how they got it, the winged hussars, during their implementation. I try to look real, and I understand that Poland has its own goals, Ukraine has its own. The Russian Federation is also not a good neighbor, and also pursues purely beneficial goals for itself, and no one will build a bright future for us, except ourselves.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Potomac
            No matter how they got it, the winged hussars, during their implementation. I try to look real, and I understand that Poland has its own goals, Ukraine has its own.

            Interestingly, do you even have goals when talking with Poland? But Poland has questions for you. At least the whole of Western Ukraine is still considered the territory of Poland. And the "winged hussars" as you call them while they train you, and not you teach them, writes the Polish edition of Defense24.pl, published material under the heading "Polish mission in Ukraine", in which it is reported that at the Yavoriv training ground, located at 20 kilometers from the border with Poland, the military from the 1st Warsaw Tank Brigade completed another cycle of training for Ukrainian mechanized units. Something like that. I really will not hit you on the sick person and will not say anything about who and where and from whom "got it".
      4. truck driver
        truck driver 7 August 2020 17: 56 New
        -11
        Relations with Russia are impossible, only in critical industries - oil, gas and other resources. After the seizure of Crimea and part of Donbass, only a completely stupid person will think that signing any document with Russia will be respected by it. The whole train left, capturing the Crimea, lost Ukraine. Russia will now gnaw off Ukrainian territories so that Ukraine does not break out of Russia's sphere of influence. The Russians have proven themselves to be the clever, cunning and worst enemy of Ukraine. I will not be surprised if Yanukovych recognizes the financing of ukronatsiks as agents of Russia's influence.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 August 2020 18: 51 New
          +6
          Quote: LKW Fahrer
          The whole train left, capturing the Crimea, lost Ukraine.

          No, "our armored train is on a side track." Because you have not returned Donbas, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Kherson regions to Russia yet. And you forgot about Western Ukraine, which now Russia can give to anyone it wants. So that's only when you you will return everything, then you can start your locomotive, and "drang nah vestn".
          1. truck driver
            truck driver 7 August 2020 23: 47 New
            -5
            Look not to overstrain, you have already deceived Ukraine twice, taking advantage of our weakness and Maidan confusion. Now you are our obvious enemies, nothing else will come of yours.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 8 August 2020 00: 08 New
              +5
              Quote: LKW Fahrer
              Look not to overstrain, you have already deceived Ukraine twice, taking advantage of our weakness and Maidan confusion.

              You are deceiving yourself and your people. And your weakness only increases. And you can't blame me for deceiving, I have not lived in Russia for 55 years, and I see your weakness well, because Ukrainian guest workers are recruited in my office, this is only one company out of dozens, but up to 500 of your citizens worked for us. And you are talking about "taking advantage of your weakness," which no one takes advantage of except your own power. So do not blame anyone "do not blame the mirror if ..... crooked", better take a sensible look at reality.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 8 August 2020 00: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: LKW Fahrer
              Now you are our obvious enemies, nothing else will come of yours.

              Who are your friends?
              1. truck driver
                truck driver 8 August 2020 02: 37 New
                -4
                Friends, this is us, you, me, a neighbor to the left, right, front, back, we are the people who, after the seizure of Crimea and Donbass, finally woke up from a deceptive faith in Eastern brothers, an older brother, we have a lot of problems, scum, Nazis but we can handle it ourselves. Let's go through all the stages of shame, humiliation, defeats, this is the only way the state is forged, through thorns away from Russia, albeit with losses, but forever.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 8 August 2020 10: 35 New
                  +5
                  Quote: LKW Fahrer
                  Friends, this is us, you, me, a neighbor to the left, right, front, back, we are the people who, after the seizure of Crimea and Donbass, finally woke up from a deceptive faith in Eastern brothers

                  Yes, Russia, too, finally woke up from the brotherhood, when it realized that the brothers are those who live for free at the expense of Russia, and the whole Donbass and a dozen other regions with the Crimea were presented, and you have not enough, give oil and gas. Finally it came, and they said "take a bite", the freebie is over. Maybe you will find other fools in the person of the European Union and the United States, good luck in your hopeless business. No offense.
                  1. truck driver
                    truck driver 8 August 2020 21: 36 New
                    -4
                    Today you live for free, you are eating up the Union inheritance, on the development and production of oil and gas in the Union, just the majority were Ukrainians. I’m not offended, I’m not cold or hot, Ukraine has been paying you at world prices for a long time and you will still ask us to buy your gas, Poland is already bending you down as it wants.
                    To get away from ties with Russia, just the collapse of the economy, maybe for the better, there will be a reorientation towards the EU, again Poland has been rebuilt for a very long time, but now the standard of living there for you will take twenty years.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 8 August 2020 22: 46 New
                      +3
                      Quote: LKW Fahrer
                      Today you live for free, you are eating up the union inheritance,

                      I realized that you did not eat up the Soviet legacy and did not waste it, everything works for you, people have jobs, salaries of at least 500 euros, this is a great flag in your hands. Only why does Ukraine run around the courts to squeeze money from Russia, and overseas banks for loans, and who will plant humanitarian aid. And not Russian people go to farm laborers to be hired in Poland and Estonia, Hungary. In my office alone, 500 guest workers from Ukraine, up to the crown, were issued, and now there is a ban on entry.
                      Poland is bending down someone, it is clear who is - Ukraine, which has already been dragged into the "Union of Lublin" (as in 1569), so read you already "Lyakhov's Ukraine". Poland received good assistance from the EU, so it lives well. And no one will give you for free, you are not Poland, so get out yourself. Have you built at least one enterprise or plant in 30 years? I do not want to offend you, for you Ukraine is your homeland, and you are worried about it. But take off your dark lenses and see what is going on without them. Although I, even among guest workers, have not met sane, everyone shouts that life is good in Ukraine. So why do they go to that small country in which I live to earn 500 euros for 10 hours of work and 6 days a week, housing and food at their own expense at our prices, so live and work at home. Nobody talks to them anymore, to talk to no purpose.
                      1. truck driver
                        truck driver 8 August 2020 23: 55 New
                        -4
                        They go for 500 euros, I go for 2000 euros, people go to work - no one is waiting for freebies, Poles go to Germany and beyond. Such is modern life, it's good that there is an opportunity to go and work, I never say in Europe that living in Ukraine is good - it would look idiotic ... And I wonder if your small country will hold out for a long time without guest workers, your locals where everyone left ?
                        The more Ukrainians go to work, the local oligarchs will understand faster that the people need to pay decently, because even with a Kiev salary, you can live smartly in Poland, where prices are lower than ours for everything - food, equipment, cars, etc.
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 9 August 2020 06: 19 New
                        -1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        they don't travel for 500 euros, I travel for 2000 euros,

                        Licking bowlers for the Germans is 2000 euros, and for the Estonians 500 euros. Each robe has its own price.
                      3. truck driver
                        truck driver 9 August 2020 15: 31 New
                        -2
                        Indeed, you lick for a penny at home, and I earn in Europe, catch the difference ???
                      4. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 August 2020 08: 25 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        Indeed, you lick for a penny at home, and I earn in Europe, do you catch the difference?

                        I catch when guest workers come to us, everyone says that they earn 2000 euros, and they come to work for 500 euros. I hear this every day, and more than once. Work in your country, catch, don't lick our bowlers, catch? They destroyed their country, but others are to blame, you don't work in your country, but you work for your uncle, are you not ashamed? And you blame others.
                      5. truck driver
                        truck driver 10 August 2020 12: 41 New
                        -2
                        It's not a shame to work, but an honor. And why do you use the services of guest workers and so downwardly, they say come in large numbers? That the locals do not go to work for your penny, but dumped to Europe, using an EU passport? I met a couple of such clever men in Poland and Germany, both were sent by nayuh, during quarantine in Poland, the Czech Republic, England, Germany, the trouble is that Ukrainian migrant workers will not come to us to collect asparagus, everything will disappear in the fields, boss what to do?
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                      7. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 August 2020 13: 29 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        during quarantine in Poland, the Czech Republic, England, Germany, the trouble will not come to us Ukrainian migrant workers to collect asparagus,

                        Logically, you are only allowed to pick asparagus. The slave must know his place. They also picked strawberries from us, brought them on special flights.
                      8. truck driver
                        truck driver 10 August 2020 17: 19 New
                        -1
                        We ourselves choose where we want to work and it's worth a lot, and the slave is in your pants.
                        Without my Ukrainians, you would have a complete ass, now you depend on us, and we can go wherever we want to work, so curb your useless ardor.
                      9. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 August 2020 17: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        We ourselves choose where we want to work and it costs a lot


                        Poles wash diapers, for more you are not suitable. Lowest level of labor force.
                      10. truck driver
                        truck driver 10 August 2020 19: 10 New
                        -1
                        Listen dear, if you were offended by the Ukrainians as a child, then this is your problem, a friend told me about one Lithuanian - the owner of a truck transport company, so that Lithuanian, during his service in the SA in Ukraine, in Vinnitsa, notably snatched from my fellow countrymen, now he doesn't like Ukrainians, but for some reason, only them and calling, is it by chance not you ???
                      11. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 August 2020 19: 20 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        is it by any chance you ???

                        No, it was forbidden to take zapadentsev into the submarine fleet during the times of the USSR.
                      12. truck driver
                        truck driver 12 August 2020 16: 00 New
                        -1
                        I don’t know how zapadentsev, I suspect that you don’t know who is considered “zapadentsev” in Ukraine, and my father-in-law was a sailor in the Black Sea Fleet, so no one voluntarily wanted to go to the submariners, everyone was in a pressure chamber during selection, quietly clicking on the nose, to bleed ...
                        And I see that you somehow treat the Ukrainians incorrectly, although you yourself cannot live without them, because the local adequate have long faded to Europe, and people like you use the labor of guest workers, pay them a penny, and you have enough conscience to blame them that they agree to work. You need to lick them because they agree to work, next time they will go to Poland, then further to Western Europe or Scandinavia, and you will either suck a bolt or hire Filipinos, like Girteka ...
                      13. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 12 August 2020 21: 37 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        You need to lick them, because they agree to work

                        The owner does not lick his farm laborers, but keeps them cold and hungry.
                        And about nosebleeds, this is a joke for children. When the blood from the ears goes then it is not suitable for the submarine. And they did not like the Sumerians in the submarine.
                      14. truck driver
                        truck driver 14 August 2020 01: 59 New
                        -1
                        The owner from the Tribaltic countries, maybe he keeps the laborers in cold and hunger, but only the patient with his whole labus surrenders to me. Then the trousers will be washed and licked by the farm laborers to stay to work. After all, the Labus is already accustomed to paying a penny to farm laborers? And do not count them as people? Labus, you don't know the Sumerians well, free advice, hire good watchmen, or else one night the master's estate will burn down with the lady and the offspring, these are the Sumerians, they can do anything, I'm not kidding ...
                      15. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 14 August 2020 10: 13 New
                        +1
                        Quote: LKW Fahrer
                        And do not count them as people? Labus, you don't know the Sumerians well, free advice, hire good watchmen,

                        Well, that the people of the Sumerians are thieving people, everyone knows this since the times of the USSR. Therefore, the construction site, the fence working day from 08.00 to 18.00 - went over the fence during work, a ticket at his own expense to Kiev. Others are waiting to be taken instead of those who have left. But this rarely happens, here they behave decently, they have come to earn money, and not show their "I". Those who take root have already been working for five or more years. The most problem-free workers are from Western Ukraine.
                      16. truck driver
                        truck driver 14 August 2020 12: 05 New
                        -1
                        But I don’t believe you that they work for 500 oiro, you can earn that kind of money on a construction site in Ukraine, in Poland our builders go to work for 1000 € and more. I often meet brigades of Poles in Europe, together with them we come across ours. Right now, there are no problems with work in Europe, if a person can do something with his hands.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 46 New
    +4
    The most terrible enemy of Ukraine is the Ukrainians themselves! Before 2014, you did a lot to bring yourself to this result.
    Russia has taken the necessary steps for its security.
    You always have someone to blame, but not yourself.
    1. truck driver
      truck driver 8 August 2020 21: 44 New
      -3
      I agree, there would not be so many corrupt Ukrainians, maybe there would be no Maidan. What Russia has done cannot be fixed, you yourself divided our peoples by capturing the Ukrainian Crimea and Donbass. How do you think Ukrainians will treat you now? Silently swallowed and resigned? For us, the best, I think, is the refusal of any ties with you - economic, political, except for those that are critical for the infrastructure of life and no matter the depth of the damage to us. Over time, the economy will rebuild and the negative effect will be minimized.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 August 2020 22: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: LKW Fahrer
        What Russia has done cannot be fixed

        So you again tightened the prayer, maybe Russia arranged the Maidans for you both under Yushcha and under Gunpowder? Maybe someone has torn your businesses up.
        For us, the optimal, I think, is the rejection of any ties with you - economic, political
        So politically Russia has not communicated with you for 30 years, and economically for 10 years you yourself, or rather Porrokh, severed ties. They have forgotten everything about you, you all want something from Russia. Roll in all 4 directions, contact you, this is a headache, and eternal litigation. There is Poland for you, you have mercy and kiss with her, leave Russia alone.
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 9 August 2020 00: 06 New
          -4
          Return Crimea and Donbass, kneel down, apologize to the whole world and leave us alone.
          Or do you think that we will forgive you and understand?
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 9 August 2020 04: 48 New
            +9
            LKW Fahrer (LKW Fahrer)
            Return Crimea and Donbass,
            Can't you return the Kemsk parish ?! It is not we who owe you something there, you owe Russia all of Little Russia from Kharkov to Odessa - THIS IS NOT YOURS !!!
            kneel down, apologize to the whole world and leave us alone.
            It is only in your skakuasii that it is customary to kneel, so don’t expect Bandera, Russia has not kneeled before anyone and will never stand!
            Or do you think that we will forgive you and understand?
            Do you think we do not care about you and your opinion ?!
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 August 2020 06: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: LKW Fahrer
            Return Crimea and Donbass, kneel down, apologize to the whole world and leave us alone.
            You have never had anything rogue, take a look at the map of 1654. And on your knees in front of you ??? Well ha, ha, ha !! This is in front of those who are crawling on their knees in front of Uncle Sam and Poland, as well as 100 years ago, have lived with the union enough, and now lick American boots and European bowlers, aufwiederseen.

      2. Campanella
        Campanella 8 August 2020 23: 31 New
        +1
        It's strange you reason if you are trying to preserve critical things with such "love" for us
        For us, normal relations and the naval base in Sevastopol were critically important, and you kept shitting like the last enemies, so you guessed it, so you look in the mirror, everything will be visible there.
        And frankly, I don't care what you think and swallow about us.
        If you do not want and do not need to, we do not need such Bandera brothers.
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 9 August 2020 00: 03 New
          -3
          Bandera and we do not need. The mantras about Bandera are for your internal use, in order to justify aggression against a foreign state and the violent seizure of territory in your own eyes. For me, the Bandera are creatures and murderers, they just accidentally cut my grandfather, and the battalion of sleeping soldiers was so unlucky in 1946.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 August 2020 06: 17 New
            0
            Quote: LKW Fahrer
            Bandera and we do not need. Mantras about Bandera, this is for your internal use,

            Yours but not for ours. That's when you destroy Bandera, then go to the site.
          2. Campanella
            Campanella 9 August 2020 09: 43 New
            0
            Do you want to say that Stepan Bandera was just made a hero of Ukraine? And the members of the UPA were equated with war veterans?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 August 2020 22: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Campanella
      You always have someone to blame, but not yourself.

      This is definitely an amazing character trait, everyone is to blame and everyone should, and this is still from the Soviet era, and not after the collapse. According to conversations, they live well, but they drive around with a hat, and sell themselves and their labor, right according to Marx - Engels.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 8 August 2020 23: 34 New
        0
        That's for sure. The Europeans will use them and will crawl again to look for a better life in Russia.
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 9 August 2020 12: 39 New
          0
          The inhabitants of the Baltics have already crawled up to you, or are you crawling to work with them.? Ha made fun of Russia for a better life? You made me morning!)))
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 9 August 2020 13: 58 New
            -2
            I'm not talking about today. For now, enjoy "freedom", but time will pass, maybe your children or grandchildren or great-grandchildren, if Russia, of course, will survive, will cross at the door in search of a better life.
            Because the lot of small states periodically falls under one, then under the other. Such a life cannot be helped.
            1. truck driver
              truck driver 9 August 2020 16: 30 New
              0
              If we are not talking about today, then after almost 30 years, at least one country from the former CMEA and the Baltic States regretted that it fell under NATO and is a member of the EU ????
              You were so intimidated and inspired, they say, without Russia, everyone will be bad. Answer yourself do you believe that the peoples of these countries are stupider than the Russians?
              1. Campanella
                Campanella 9 August 2020 16: 39 New
                0
                The whole point is that Putin did not offer his own way, he himself wanted to go to Europe in this his mistake.
                Therefore, what is the point for you aspiring to Russia, which itself is moving to the West, if you can do it directly.
                If it finally comes to Putin that you need to build life not according to the patterns of the West, but according to your own understanding, then everything will fall into place.
                1. truck driver
                  truck driver 9 August 2020 20: 08 New
                  -1
                  This is your problem - the king is good, the boyars are bad ...
                  People live here and now, the technological level and standard of living of the West are many times better, while you catch up, the West will go even further and this process is endless. The world is built for the west and it makes it clear to Russia that it does not belong there.
                  And I do not want to wait until capitalism with a human face is built in Ukraine, I will try to leave with my family to the west, it is unrealistic to catch up with the west with our corrupt power.
                2. Campanella
                  Campanella 9 August 2020 22: 25 New
                  0
                  I didn’t say that our king is good.
                  The West is not close to me and the technological level has nothing to do with it.
                  You can look for happiness on the side, but it seems to me that not everyone can handle it. It probably depends on the person. Many Russian emigres suffered far from their homeland.
                  I have never seen myself and do not see myself far from my homeland.
                3. truck driver
                  truck driver 10 August 2020 12: 48 New
                  -2
                  Probably yes, I am still at the age when something else depends on myself and rose-colored glasses about the future of Ukraine have long been asleep.
                4. Campanella
                  Campanella 10 August 2020 13: 39 New
                  -1
                  Revolutions are made by passionaries who have an awl in one place, and ordinary people suffer by adjusting to new conditions.
                  In the West, you have to pay for a "good" life, that's the question of what and whether the payment will be feasible.
                  I know the guys at one time who rushed to America everything is so ambiguous, the circle of friends is mostly limited to the Russian diaspora. Children, of course, are a different story.
                  Yes, you yourself can see how many famous people have settled down abroad, everything is similar.
                  Some would like to leave but the property is difficult to sell
                  , well, other miscellaneous.
  • Orange
    Orange bigg 7 August 2020 14: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Why is OUR Crimea smeared with something on the map? Poland and Hungary (and Romania a little bit) can very strongly "break" VNA, in the style of Yugoslavia ... Poland's good intentions towards Ukraine ??? Does anyone believe this?

    The US is trying to sculpt from what they have in stock at least something that could be an obstacle to cooperation between Russia and Europe. So they pulled a speech from the dustbin of history. I blinded you out of what was, and then what was, I fell in love.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 August 2020 15: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Poland's good intentions towards Ukraine?
    Pilsudski and his supporters had a great plan to expand the maximum territory of Poland to the east at the expense of Russian lands, at the expense of the Baltic states, which separated from Russia, and to expand the territory of Poland at the expense of the territory of the defeated Germany and Austria-Hungary. First, expand Poland to the borders of 1772, then create Greater Poland from sea to sea. Then create the Rzeczpospolita - a Federation of Poland, the Baltic States, Ukraine.
  • Poor
    Poor 7 August 2020 18: 27 New
    -2
    and what kind of Serbs you did not fit in, you are our beautiful, they gave Milosevic and Yugoslavia, and then the same tendencies, look from the top.
  • iouris
    iouris 7 August 2020 14: 13 New
    +2
    If Crimea is theirs, then so is Belarus. Yes, and Lyublino. The triangle will be drunk!
    1. Looking for
      Looking for 7 August 2020 15: 01 New
      +1
      "... whether he is a parallelepiped. whether he is a circle. is a louse."
  • Masha
    Masha 7 August 2020 14: 13 New
    0
    Now, in chorus, in unison, they will squeal ... otherwise each of them barked from their corner ... wassat
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 7 August 2020 14: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Masha
      Now in chorus, in unison they will scream ...

      They never stopped
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        They never stopped

        I started a dog at the dacha, it has been barking for three years now, day and night, but it's a pity to throw it away, I endure it for now.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Masha
      Now, in chorus, in unison, they will squeal ... otherwise each of them barked from their corner ...

      Yes, they are already squealing, I stuffed cotton wool in my ears.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 7 August 2020 14: 15 New
    -2
    That's one rash step. At the end of World War II, in Yalta. And "friendship of peoples forever" made in 2020 the very possibility of this discussion wink
    "Lublin Triangle"
    1. tatra
      tatra 7 August 2020 14: 54 New
      -9
      Again, perhaps, the eternal cowardly ideology of the enemies of the communists, always to blame the Bolshevik communists on the blame and responsibility for what you have done YOURSELF? The enemies of the communists, starting with Gorbachev and perestroika, for the sake of BENEFIT in a pile of deceitful and hypocritical anti-Sovietism, rushed to lick the asses of the Russophobic Poles and defend them with their "breasts". And here is the result of the Poles "wiping their feet" on Russia.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 7 August 2020 15: 00 New
        -1
        Quote: tatra
        Again, perhaps, the eternal cowardly ideology of the enemies of the communists, always to blame the Bolshevik communists on the blame and responsibility for what you have done YOURSELF? The enemies of the communists, starting with Gorbachev and perestroika, for the sake of BENEFIT in a pile of deceitful and hypocritical anti-Sovietism, rushed to lick the asses of the Russophobic Poles and defend them with their "breasts". And here is the result of the Poles "wiping their feet" on Russia.

        no In no case, there is no one to blame. Moreover, everything. I am writing that it was a mistake to give Poland access to the sea. And not to make the Kaliningrad Region up to the GDR at that time! The world would be different only thanks to such an alignment of forces. And if there are mistakes, then what difference does it make under what flag they happened. There are enough of them for tonsils now. You need to be a strategist, first of all, leading the state! And not listen to some dogma or rustle of dough!
        1. tatra
          tatra 7 August 2020 15: 05 New
          -6
          It is NOT necessary to cowardly blame the Bolshevik communists for what their enemies have done. If the enemies of the communists did not capture the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe, it would not matter at all which republic the Crimea belongs to, and there would be no problems because of what you wrote about. And there would be no wars unleashed by them on the territory of the USSR and in Eastern Europe, in which hundreds of thousands of civilians died and there would be no this anger and hatred, information wars between peoples on the territory of the USSR and in Eastern Europe.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 7 August 2020 15: 14 New
            -2
            Quote: tatra
            It is NOT necessary to cowardly blame the Bolshevik communists for what their enemies have done. If the enemies of the communists did not capture the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe, it would not matter at all which republic the Crimea belongs to, and there would be no problems because of what you wrote about. And there would be no wars unleashed by them on the territory of the USSR and in Eastern Europe, in which hundreds of thousands of civilians died and there would be no this anger and hatred, information wars between peoples on the territory of the USSR and in Eastern Europe.

            Did you even read the previous comment well before the comment with the answer to you? Or is your mind clouded?
            DO NOT cowardly blame the communist Bolsheviks for what their enemies have done
            Strategist !!!! You need to be, not a communist-Bolshevik. First of all, you need to be a strategist and not a liberal reformer! You need to be a strategist, governing the country, so that fate has elevated you to the pinnacle of power. So that after a few years there would be no such thing as even a discussion of the "Lublin Triangle" Ugh and grind. Those who made decisions then! am
          2. Mikhail Ya2
            Mikhail Ya2 8 August 2020 09: 02 New
            -3
            Communists and such scum, the greatest evil on Earth.
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 51 New
              +1
              About such a bastard in more detail? Better yet, do not forget yourself!
    2. disyptiformer
      disyptiformer 7 August 2020 15: 40 New
      -2
      What a "one rash step", share information.

      Which of these funny oldies screwed up?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Disiptiformer
        Which of these funny oldies screwed up?

        The one who said "Lvov was not Russian, but Warsaw was beating."
        1. disyptiformer
          disyptiformer 10 August 2020 02: 19 New
          0
          I am sincerely surprised. Would you, my friend, books (profile) whatever, they revered the tunnels.
          And Lviv is Russian even now.
          See less "telabachennya".
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 10 August 2020 08: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Disiptiformer
            And Lviv is Russian even now.

            Lemberg has never been Russian.
            1. disyptiformer
              disyptiformer 10 August 2020 17: 43 New
              0
              Why argue? Go, book a tour, ask a native Lviv citizen. I can give you a phone number. There, everything will be laid out on the shelves. Including where the invaders live (part of the city). hi
      2. Campanella
        Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 55 New
        0
        Simple as that? And if he hadn't, would there have been heaven on earth?
        All such perfectionists already reduce cheekbones. Themselves then in life did not mess up?
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      So one rash step. At the end of World War II, in Yalta.

      Oh, J.V. Stalin got excited.
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 7 August 2020 14: 17 New
    +2
    Well, this is how Poland wants to become the 2nd Russia. Will not work. History has been forgotten. As soon as Poland shows too much activity in this direction, so, bam ..., immediately follows the partition of Poland, which each time is initiated not by Russia, but by Europe, for which the Rzeczpospolita poses a greater danger than Russia, which lies beyond its borders. And even the mattress covers, which Poland strongly invites to prevent another inevitable section, will not help here ... It should not do this. It is known that the Anglo-Saxons, mattress toppers only defend themselves, they generally do not care about some kind of Poland. They only need Poland as a springboard for pressure and attack on Russia. If there is no such a bridgehead - Poland is divided by neighbors, then the Anglo-Saxons, mattress toppers will safely hide away from the emerging problems: Poland, what kind of Poland, oh, Poland, where is our base? So we will defend the base, and Poland, we don't give a damn about it, we don't need it.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: The Truth
      Well, this is how Poland wants to become the 2nd Russia.

      As far as I remember, Warsaw province-2
  • Alien From
    Alien From 7 August 2020 14: 20 New
    +5
    We'll have to plant more birches around the entire perimeter of this triangle)))
    1. pavelty
      pavelty 7 August 2020 16: 13 New
      +1
      To plant poplars)
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 7 August 2020 16: 37 New
        0
        True true, and them too)))))
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      We'll have to plant more birches around the entire perimeter of this triangle

      Let's get together on an aspen.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 7 August 2020 17: 22 New
        0
        This is the last, in the form of a stake)))
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 7 August 2020 14: 48 New
    0
    I have nothing against Poland taking this whole Bandera gadyushnik called Galicia. And for some reason I am sure that the Galicians themselves will ride for joy. Finally, they will join their coveted Europe. Let Hungary take Transcarpathia, Romania - Bukovina. But left-bank Ukraine is a question ...
    1. tatra
      tatra 7 August 2020 14: 58 New
      -1
      The demoniac Galicians always felt bad, they felt bad when Poland occupied Western Ukraine, they felt bad under the USSR, they felt bad 30 years after the seizure of the Ukrainian SSR by the anti-Soviet-Russophobic clique.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel73
      But left-bank Ukraine is a question ...

      After that, she will calm down.
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 8 August 2020 15: 57 New
      0
      And in vain! The enemy, as they put it, can only give an aspen stake and then in one place!
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 8 August 2020 16: 09 New
        +1
        Alas, Galicia is a stake for us, not for them. All history has shown this. All shit to Russia rushing from there. So only three western regions were infected, and now all of Ukraine.
  • askort154
    askort154 7 August 2020 14: 51 New
    +3
    Rzeczpospolita in a modern format: why the Lublin Triangle is being created

    What the poor can only earn on ardent Russophobia. Poland and Lithuania are subsidized by the EU, and Ukraine provides them with "migrant workers". Poland stubbornly lies under the United States, trying to steal the blanket from Brussels, so it raises its status by creating, for now, a "triangle" with plans for a polyhedron. Hyena organizing a flock.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 7 August 2020 14: 56 New
    +6
    Three countries have signed an agreement, what is it declared? What does the contract oblige? Or is it a meeting of former classmates in the spolite speech and nothing else?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Or is it a meeting of former classmates in the spolite speech and nothing else?

      We cried to each other in the shoulder, about their hard lot and parted. But the Poles are on their own.
    2. Kerensky
      Kerensky 7 August 2020 18: 46 New
      +5
      Three countries have signed an agreement, what is it declared? What does the contract oblige?

      Vooot! Now the "Lublin format" will be created and the creation of commissions, subcommissions and committees will begin to settle controversial issues and develop .... what? Annual "pioneer rallies" with reports of successes and press conferences, forums, in the "frameworks and lobbies" of which the media will catch the murky statements of "high-ranking sources." And then experts, experts, experts ...
      Eh! So I see: "As the deputy chairman of the subcommittee on the development of a unified strategy for standardization of sanitary facilities in the customs zone of the" Lublin format "told our correspondent ........ a leading expert is concerned about his words, who believes that ...."
      Let's read and comment from the bottom of our hearts!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 7 August 2020 14: 59 New
    +2
    Let's see what happens ... GUAM - Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Moldova are there, but in the early years they were behaving quietly, they shouted, shouted and went quiet ... I heard nothing about its activities ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 21: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Let's see what happens ..

      It will be the same as what happened in 1569, the creation of the "Union of Lublin". Then Rzecz Pospolita was created, the unification of Lithuania with the territories of Ukraine, but under the leadership of Poland. Now the same picture is taking place, and the same faces, all one to one. History repeats itself.
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 8 August 2020 17: 35 New
      0
      These are dormant alliances under the auspices of the overseas pope. At the right time, they will pop up and create an agenda.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 7 August 2020 15: 03 New
    +3
    Stop holding onto flabby intestines from the 90s. If someone wants to go to the bench in Poland, you have to wave your palm and not give a penny. We have enough people and territories of our own.
    As for Poland, "Intermarium" did not let them go and will hardly let them go - but they have a very poor idea of ​​the degree of hardcore and organizational problems that will collapse on them like a ceiling at the moment when they gather this patchwork confederation. It will be the nobility 2.0 in its purest form, compared to which the showdown in Rada 2015 will seem like a game of sand cakes. And it will also be a black hole for any amount of funds and a vinaigrette of independent nationalists of all breeds in one bottle.
    We have already practically laid a pipe bypassing this "cordon sanitaire" on both sides, we have diversified raw materials exports in the east - how can all this mess us up? They will jam each other there earlier because of some kind of garbage a hundred years ago and the corruption of the elites.
    We spend resources fighting the inevitable and delaying this moment - and it will come anyway, and we will be even less ready than in 2014.
    1. Orange
      Orange bigg 7 August 2020 15: 41 New
      -1
      It will be nobility 2.0 in its purest form

      Did you mean slut 2.0?
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 7 August 2020 16: 12 New
        +6
        I want to say that they will not succeed in a constructive union, regardless of who will steer - the United States or Poland. The elites of these states are characterized by extreme incapacity to negotiate and small-town thinking. They will steal, weave intrigues, leave with pathos into the distance on a dashing stallion and look at each other as the contents of a chamber pot. If all this is flooded with abundant streams of freebies - European, Polish, American - yes, it will be an "alliance", but it will not be much better than our "alliance" with Belarus on all fronts of its effectiveness. And most importantly, money and attention of our potential will go to this. rivals and not ours.
        We kept Ukraine, credited, loaded with orders and arranged all these endless meetings in the CIS - did it help? Did it help with Georgia? Maybe it helped with Armenia? Let them go, like a tablecloth. There is no need to worry about this - the life and well-being of our country is important to us, and not some kind of abundance of abstractions.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 August 2020 17: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          I want to say that they will not succeed in a constructive union, regardless of who will steer - the United States or Poland.

          Well, who will allow these limitrophes to do something themselves. Uncle Sam is holding the collar chain.
          Here is a caricature of the American diplomat J. Michael Springman, which characterizes very well.
          1. Shilka
            Shilka 7 August 2020 21: 31 New
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Well, who will allow these limitrophes to do something themselves. Uncle Sam is holding the collar chain.
            Here is a caricature of the American diplomat J. Michael Springman, which characterizes very well.

            Vlad is a famous caricature ... !!! Israel is so straight. I'm sorry ... lol
            But the main one in the current world .. he he

            Here is the situation along the way ..))))
          2. Old
            Old Michael 8 August 2020 14: 42 New
            +1
            Naturally, the star of David first of all attracts the attention of the healthy part of the male audience on Michael Springman's creation. But it seems that the author of the caricature has designated a specific adrasat of this message - "the cherry on the cake" in the lower left corner. lol
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 8 August 2020 14: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: OldMichael
              But it seems that the author of the caricature has designated a specific adrasat of this message - "the cherry on the cake" in the lower left corner.

              Of course, various foreign publications have already written about this. This is what the Square has boiled down to. Very subtly noticed.
    2. Rubi0
      Rubi0 7 August 2020 19: 17 New
      0
      There is some truth in this vinaigrette of the Aligarhi of the southeast, and this is their sphere of business, the couple, it seems to me, will not want to go into the Lublin triangle under the nobles
  • Gato
    Gato 7 August 2020 15: 28 New
    -1
    Lublin Triangle, or "Lublin Triangle"

    Or a "Lublin threesome"?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 August 2020 21: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Gato
      Or a "Lublin threesome"?

      Let's call it more simply "Triple Cologne".
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 7 August 2020 15: 33 New
    +1
    Minsk will begin to consider the "Lublin Triangle" as an alternative to integration projects with Russia.
    It's like laughing. What can this political "education" give Minsk? Ukraine got a fig from its eurointegration? Total economic devastation, civil war and loss of territories. They offer the same to Belarusians.
  • Lumpen
    Lumpen 7 August 2020 15: 48 New
    -1
    In fact, the construction of the US "dominion" in Eastern Europe is nearing completion! If Belarus "flashes" then "truncated"!
    1. bulava
      bulava 7 August 2020 16: 51 New
      -1
      will not blaze, just now the GDP But father was vaccinated against the complications of the coronavirus. The guys will be released tomorrow.
      1. Lumpen
        Lumpen 7 August 2020 18: 03 New
        -2
        Do not rush, "But Father" skillfully played on "raising rates" and I think the Kremlin made concessions, not all of it, of course, but still "moved" (VVP called, and not vice versa). Now Minsk is considering a new proposal
        1. bulava
          bulava 7 August 2020 20: 08 New
          +1
          Well, I did the right thing by calling myself. We need to support a person in difficult times, show and explain that we are not his enemies. Vladimir Vladimirovich did everything very right.
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 7 August 2020 16: 33 New
    +1
    It is clear that it is still very, very premature to talk about the real political and economic possibilities of the new alliance.

    Well, don't tell me! Tired of stating facts. Make at least some primitive analysis and conclusion. An article is a waste of time.
  • For the freedom of the Slavs
    For the freedom of the Slavs 7 August 2020 16: 39 New
    +2
    and even Belarus. The latter, after all, was also once part of the Commonwealth.
    A very strange formulation, given the fact that the Commonwealth appeared as a result of the unification of the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and in our time both Poland and Belarus are in solidarity in their succession.
  • bulava
    bulava 7 August 2020 16: 50 New
    -1
    Lublin cutting and sewing circle
  • Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 7 August 2020 17: 40 New
    0
    The authors of the article forget that Belarus may soon enter this "triangle" too!
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 7 August 2020 19: 24 New
    +2
    If you want to get an idiot - take away his memory !!! How long have you walked under the trash pans? Al wanted again ??? Give Vilnius too - this is a gift from the hated Stalin!
  • APASUS
    APASUS 7 August 2020 21: 09 New
    -2
    The United States is shaping that Europe, which will then go to Russia. First, just morally, and then, as it gets stronger, it can try a war
  • agoran
    agoran 7 August 2020 21: 13 New
    0
    Here, kmk, there is a more interesting background.
    The Anglo-Saxons, and even more so Poland, are afraid of mutually beneficial cooperation between Germany and the Russian Federation.
    That is, the combination of German technologies and the resources of Russia, which will lead to the strengthening of these countries.
    And then Germany can remember about its lands, which are now under the jurisdiction of Poland.
    Well, and about the lands of East Prussia, to-rye should belong to the Kaliningrad region, also do not forget.
    And yes, Gdansk is Danzig. (Danzig)
  • Shilka
    Shilka 7 August 2020 21: 20 New
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    Poland was the jackal of Europe, and it remained .. And only Russians can besiege it men!
    Preferably with the Germans hi And Chekhov, including in general ..
  • alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 7 August 2020 22: 25 New
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    Good Lord !! Well, not the right country to create an empire ... dwarfs ...
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 8 August 2020 12: 30 New
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    Modern Poland has existed in reality only since 1945, and then, by the good will of the USSR. What "dominant" roles, even in wet dreams, are we talking about? She herself would not die of hunger, since payments of the "European Union" in the form of subsidies have ceased since 2020, and Poland does not have real and competitive products in principle. There are no minerals, no industrial products - inhabited by Poles. Of course, everyone can have wet dreams, but why talk about them out loud? They may misunderstand in the world, and Poland, like its "allies" in dreams, may again disappear from the world maps and moreover for a long time, if not forever.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 8 August 2020 16: 03 New
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    In fact, you need to designate this triangle as the worst enemy and accordingly build relationships with it, and de jure call it partnerships. Moreover, it has been historically proven that these freaks cannot be cured.
  • senima56
    senima56 9 August 2020 11: 44 New
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    What's the "Lublin Triangle" ??? fool This is a long-standing dream of the "lords" of revival: "Polish from Moz to Moz!" negative
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 22 August 2020 17: 29 New
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    Polish ambition is a complex mass and individual psychopathological phenomenon inherent in the Poles, and characterizing the foreign policy of Poland.

    (Material from the free Russian encyclopedia Tradition)

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    -Sections of the Commonwealth:

    -The first section of the Commonwealth in 1772,

    -The second section of the Commonwealth in 1793,

    -The third section of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1795;

    - Vienna Congress of 1815, sometimes referred to as the fourth partition of Poland;

    -The non-aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939 is called either the fourth or the fifth partition of Poland.

    (Material from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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