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The Pentagon admitted: Before the destruction of missiles by lasers is still far

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Aircraft equipped with laser weaponswill not soon be able to become a threat to ballistic missiles. This is the conclusion reached by the Pentagon's chief technology expert Michael Griffin.


Lasers are still far from hitting missiles


As you know, Michael Griffin until recently served as the US Deputy Secretary of Defense for Research and Development. It was he who oversaw, among other things, many issues of creating the latest weapons. One of the most important and promising areas of research and development of new weapons for the United States is the creation of laser weapons.

But at a recent press conference, Griffin made a sensational statement:

I am extremely skeptical that we can use an aircraft-mounted laser to shoot down enemy missiles even at close range.

Interestingly, the 2019 U.S. missile defense review, which was developed with direct involvement of Griffin, called for investment in the installation of laser weapons on unmanned aerial vehicles. But this spring, Griffin rejected the possibility of intercepting cruise and ballistic missiles using aircraft equipped with laser weapons.

A senior American expert admitted his skepticism about the prospects for the use of laser weapons and stressed that it is not worth spending money on on-board laser weapons to destroy enemy missiles.

The main obstacles to hitting missiles with laser weapons


MDA Director Vice Admiral John Hill believes that low power levels are the main obstacle to the deployment of laser weapons. In order to effectively intercept missiles, the power will be 5-10 times higher than the current one. Laser weapons capable of hitting ballistic missiles, according to the vice admiral, should be of the megawatt class. But so far the United States does not have the scientific and technical capabilities to create a combat laser of the required power. Accordingly, the arguments about the defeat of cruise and ballistic missiles by lasers remain purely speculative, without real grounds.


Since in 2018 the same Griffin said completely different words about the prospects for the use of on-board lasers, it can be assumed that in two years the American military department has analyzed and assessed the real possibilities and decided to abandon such plans.

Interestingly, despite the recognition of the need for much more laser power to destroy ballistic missiles, MDA is not yet able to accurately determine the required power. Even Vice Admiral Hill admits that the agency lacks statistically significant data on the required power levels. But in the foreseeable future, the military department is going to conduct an analysis and field tests of laser impact on missiles.

As for the current situation, Vice Admiral Hill argues that directed energy should be used in a number of specific areas, which does not include missile defense. For example, with the help of laser weapons, you can hit low-flying and slower targets, as well as ground and surface targets. So far, only the existing US missile defense system, including THAAD and the Aegis SM-3 ship / land-based system, can counteract enemy ballistic missiles.

We are not going to replace kinetic systems with directed energy. This is an additional set of possibilities for complicating the enemy's calculations,

- said Vice Admiral Hill, talking about the prospects for the use of laser weapons.
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  1. sav
    sav 6 August 2020 10: 28 New
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    Well, at least they recognized it. And then we started to worry.
    1. KAV
      KAV 6 August 2020 10: 41 New
      +5
      Laser weapons capable of hitting ballistic missiles, according to the vice admiral, should be of the megawatt class.
      And then maybe a gigawatt. In addition, as soon as a cloud appears in the path of the laser, all its power will disappear there. Plus, the shed with the reactor must be carried in the wake of the plane. Initially, it was clear that all these are just another wet dreams, unsupported by anything.
      the agency lacks statistically significant data on the required power levels
      And scientists have all died out or what? Or are they just getting paid there?
      As for the current situation, Vice Admiral Hill argues that directed energy should be used in a number of specific areas, which does not include missile defense. For example, with the help of laser weapons, you can hit low-flying and slower targets, as well as ground and surface targets.
      Yes, too, garbage in vegetable oil. Now lasers can only blind targets. Cutting or punching holes at a less distant distance is unrealistic. There are no such technologies.
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  2. Oleg1263
    Oleg1263 6 August 2020 10: 33 New
    +4
    It is good to have laser systems on satellites to control everything that rises above the clouds ..
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 6 August 2020 10: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: oleg1263
      It is good to have laser systems on satellites to control everything that rises above the clouds ..

      It would be nice to have systems on satellites for monitoring .. and so on in the text.
      But on what they will be based, this is the tenth thing.
  3. Poetry
    Poetry 6 August 2020 10: 36 New
    +2
    Now they will not give the loot, which they should have razed.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 August 2020 10: 36 New
    +3
    On VO long ago this was recognized and argued, and moreover for a gift, that is, free of charge.
  5. V1er
    V1er 6 August 2020 10: 38 New
    +3
    And how much show-off was. lol They were going to put laser cannons on airplanes and ships, create laser air defense systems, and all this garbage turned out to be zilch, like the railgun.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 6 August 2020 10: 52 New
      -1
      The news about lasers on airplanes, ships does not apply. Lasers will be put on them.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 6 August 2020 11: 09 New
        +2
        Of course they will deliver when they create a compact power source for the laser.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 6 August 2020 11: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Of course they will deliver when they create a compact power source for the laser.

          And when will they learn to fight with the scattering of a beam from evaporation from the water surface?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 6 August 2020 11: 43 New
            +3
            When wings are attached to a nuclear power plant and teach to fly. bully
      2. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 6 August 2020 11: 33 New
        +2
        Currently 1 US Navy ship, destroyer USS Dewey. already equipped with the ODIN (Optical Dazzling Interdictor, Navy) laser-guided energy weapon system. Over the next three years, this system will be installed on 7 ships of the US Navy.
        ODIN is just one of the new laser-guided energy weapons currently in service with the Navy. In May, the service announced that the USS Portland dock-class amphibious assault platform was successfully using its own new Mk 2 Mod 0 Laser Weapon System Demonstrator (LWSD), a much more powerful 150 kilowatt.
        1. Selevc
          Selevc 6 August 2020 11: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Currently 1 US Navy ship, destroyer USS Dewey. already equipped with the ODIN (Optical Dazzling Interdictor, Navy) laser-guided energy weapon system

          You will not believe - attempts to use laser weapons on a swimmer. traveling, flying platforms for more than half a century !!!

          The combat laser has 2 very old problems - the huge weight of the radiation source and the influence of extraneous factors on the laser beam ... These are the two main reasons why the combat laser is being introduced into the army with such a creak ...
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 6 August 2020 11: 53 New
            +1
            Why don't I believe it? I already know this information. I am not writing about attempts, I am writing about a serial product with which the Navy will be equipped.
            1. Selevc
              Selevc 6 August 2020 12: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: Grazdanin
              I am not writing about attempts, I am writing about a serial product with which the Navy will be equipped.
              And where are the sane results of the use of laser weapons of the US Navy ??? They put a lot of things on their ships - so what ??? 7 units of installations is not a series, and even less a weapon not tested in real combat ...
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 August 2020 10: 46 New
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    The Pentagon admitted: Before the destruction of missiles by lasers is still far
    What for? request The Chinese with decent systems would ring out incredible opportunities as results. crying
  7. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 6 August 2020 10: 48 New
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    You don't need to be seven inches in your forehead to realize that there is simply no room for a powerful laser in a modern aircraft.
    It is for this reason that specialists are engaged in sea-based lasers. For warships, an extra ten tons of weight, as well as additional energy from onboard generators, is not a problem.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 6 August 2020 11: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      It is for this reason that specialists are engaged in sea-based lasers.

      And how are you doing?
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 6 August 2020 11: 37 New
        +2
        Testing of laser systems has passed, ships are beginning to equip. ODIN is already on one, they will put on another 7 within 3 years.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 6 August 2020 11: 40 New
          +1
          On Dikson, they tested the same thing, even managed to slightly heat the coastal target ... I'm not talking about testing, I'm talking about success!
          have Americans learned to overcome water evaporation?
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 6 August 2020 11: 43 New
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            Again. They began to put laser weapons in series on ships. Within three years, there will be 8 of them, 1 have already been installed.
            https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34663/navy-to-add-laser-weapons-to-at-least-seven-more-ships-in-the-next-three-years
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 6 August 2020 11: 54 New
              +2
              Yes, I absolutely do not care where and what they started to put!
              Again. What are the successes of the Americans in the use of laser weapons at sea?
              Only one thing comes out of your link ... this is a low-power laser that can only blind the enemy and then 50/50. Moreover, the installation does not completely cover the aft angles!
              So, dear Citizen, what are your successes ???
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                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 6 August 2020 11: 59 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  recently married

                  what recourse Sorry...
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  I bought an apartment, I'm finishing repairs

                  good drinks Congratulations!
                  1. Grazdanin
                    Grazdanin 6 August 2020 12: 00 New
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                    Thank you for your congratulations laughing drinks
                    1. sabakina
                      sabakina 6 August 2020 12: 19 New
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                      Quote: Grazdanin
                      Thank you for your congratulations laughing drinks
                      Grazdanin, do you know that it is impossible to complete the renovation of the apartment, only stop it? laughing
                      1. Grazdanin
                        Grazdanin 6 August 2020 12: 22 New
                        +1
                        Well, I've been finishing it for a long time laughing
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 6 August 2020 17: 10 New
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              Quote: Grazdanin
              Again. They began to put laser weapons in series on ships.

              Searchlights are also installed on ships.
      2. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 6 August 2020 11: 56 New
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        Quote: Serg65
        And how are you doing?

        A 75 kW laser has already been demonstrated. It is quite a workable device. They promised to double the capacity by next year.
        Further, it will be seen.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 6 August 2020 12: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Further, it will be seen.

          Vague doubts gnaw at me! I wouldn't be surprised if, in a couple of years, some admiral would also declare ... well, we didn't shmog!
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 6 August 2020 12: 09 New
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            The laws of physics cannot be canceled by order. However, new technologies and new materials still appear. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and worry about the admirals.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 6 August 2020 12: 31 New
              +2
              Under the Soviet Union, a lot of money was spent on the creation of laser weapons, and if there was a clear success in the land complexes, then in the naval part of the development, the success was minimal. Moreover, the problem of the marine part of the research rested not on the power of the power plant, but especially on the nature of the sea surface, one of the features is evaporation from the water surface, this evaporation greatly affects the beam, subjecting it to scattering. And since the surge of American research on laser began after the acquisition of the experimental vessel Dixon from Ukraine, along with laser installations and with all the documentation on laser developments, in fact the American laser has not only Soviet roots, but also Soviet laser sores ...
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 6 August 2020 12: 49 New
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                There is no information about serial deliveries of anti-missile lasers yet, so it is not clear whether they managed to solve this problem or not. You need to rummage in English-language resources on this topic, which is lazy.
                For now, they are putting a highly specialized laser against the UAV, which is extremely important to them. China and Iran stamped a lot of flying stuff.
              2. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 6 August 2020 12: 50 New
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                Quote: Serg65
                A lot of money was spent under the Union

                Now let the US spend. Why worry about them?

                Dickson lasers were tested in the 80s.
                What was left of the ship was sold in 1995 as scrap metal. I doubt that there is still something left from those lasers.

                Any weapon has its own advantages and disadvantages. Mortars do not fire with direct fire, and a light machine gun cannot penetrate the side of a battleship, but this does not prevent them from taking their rightful place in the line of weapons. So lasers will eventually find their niche in weapons systems.
            2. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 6 August 2020 13: 05 New
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              Quote: A. Privalov
              Let's not get ahead of ourselves and worry about the admirals.

              THOSE. flies separately .....
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 6 August 2020 13: 00 New
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          Quote: A. Privalov

          A 75 kW laser has already been demonstrated.

          "They did this by combining multiple laser beams together to give it enough power (100 kW) - yes, just like the Death Star in Star Wars. The tested laser was also able to hit targets up to 10 km away," according to media reports. from "Tel Aviv to Herzliya." According to the same reports, the laser "has overcome atmospheric interference", although it is not clear what they mean. "
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 6 August 2020 11: 07 New
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    They maneuvered, maneuvered with a laser, and did not catch it ... But there was a lot of noise ...
  9. Alien From
    Alien From 6 August 2020 11: 12 New
    0
    They know how to saw no worse than ours!
  10. astepanov
    astepanov 6 August 2020 11: 14 New
    +6
    Surprised ... Strategic missile warheads have a powerful ablation coating with carbon or carbides as one of the components. The laser must heat the coating to a temperature and sublimate the carbon. The heat capacity of graphite is about 1,5 J / g, the heat of sublimation is 43 kJ / g. With a coating thickness of 1 cm and a density of 2 g / cm3000. we have a heating heat up to 9 C of about 86 kJ + 95 kJ for sublimation - total, 200 kJ / cm10. This value should be at least doubled (partial ray reflection, scattering in the atmosphere and on ablation products), and then we get 2 kJ / cm2. The spot must be large enough, otherwise everything will be eaten by losses for thermal conductivity beyond the spot boundaries. With a beam section of 1 cm square. we get an energy of 1 MJ. If the defeat time is 90 s, then the laser power is 25 MW. If the target is rotating, then the power must be much higher. What is 2 MW? This is approximately the power of the T-4000 tank. But there is a nuance here: the laser efficiency is much less than unity. It is no more than 10%. In total, the airplane must have an on-board zababa, giving out a power of 1 kW for XNUMX seconds. This power and energy would be enough to disperse a projectile weighing XNUMX kg to XNUMX km / s!
    In general, an obvious fantasy.
    Right now, Gridasov will come running and start talking about new physical principles ...
    1. Ilshat
      Ilshat 6 August 2020 12: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: astepanov
      It is no more than 25%

      Serial Russian lasers:
      Singlemode up to 20 kW
      Multimode up to 500 kW
      Constant BPP over the entire power range
      Modular, ready-to-go design
      Small focal spot at long working distances
      Compact, ruggedized, easy to install
      Record efficiency of conversion of electrical energy into optical up to 50%

      https://www.ipgphotonics.com/ru/products/lasers/nepreryvnye-lazery-vysokoy-moshchnosti
    2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
      Kuzmich Sibiryakov 10 August 2020 15: 05 New
      0
      Competently, intelligibly, professionally.
      I think it is useful to say about this as well:
      “Technical reasons (according to the source - P. Zarubin“ Academician Basov ... ”) consisted in the fact that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam on a relatively small area. That is, if the target is at a distance of more than 100 km, the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 deg. This was established at the Institute of Optics of the Atmosphere, specially created to support the implementation of the laser weapon program, in the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences in Tomsk, which It was headed by Academician V.E. Zuev that the laser spot at a distance of 100 km would have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density over an area of ​​1 cm2 at a total laser source energy of 1 MJ would be less than 0,1 J / cm2. This is too little - in order to hit a rocket (create a hole in it 1 cm2, depressurizing it), it takes more than 1 kJ / cm2 "

      For a shorter distance, the parameters are easily recalculated.
  11. KAVBER
    KAVBER 6 August 2020 11: 22 New
    0
    This is how all the attempts of the mask will end, and you are fooled, fooled by pepelats, star wars, soybeans and other tesla
  12. Maks1995
    Maks1995 6 August 2020 11: 29 New
    0
    IMHO, in a simplified way, all the possibilities of obtaining and using lasers are considered in science fiction.
    And for the educated, everything is more or less clear for a long time ...
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  14. sabakina
    sabakina 6 August 2020 11: 50 New
    -1
    The Pentagon admitted: Before the destruction of missiles by lasers is still far


    No matter how you have to use a match from the Cherepovets factory ... We will withstand it, but here they are ...
  15. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 6 August 2020 12: 50 New
    -1
    [quote] [/ quote] I am extremely skeptical that we can use the installed on plane laser to shoot down missiles enemy even at close range.
    What even experts are skeptical about in the US is not the last word and many states are developing their own, for example, the "Iron Dome" was bought by the US along with the production base
    The same applies to the laser program.
    1. At the beginning of 2021, the first tests electric laser will be held in Israel, and official US persons will follow behind the process and results.
    2. A laser system developed by Israel's Elbit Systems to protect aircraft from infrared missiles will be deployed in NATO's Multinational Multi-Purpose Transport Fleet (MMF) starting in 2020, the company announced this week.
    3. The unit under development is a drone-based onboard system that "intercepts above the clouds" and "protects large areas."
    These achievements were made possible by the development electric laser, the generator allows it to be on vehicles, including on planes. This was done by combining numerous laser beams together to give it enough power (100 kW) to target warhead (or, for example, the body of a UAV), heats it up and causes it to burn or crash. This laser development, unlike the previous laser system, is based on electrical crystals and most importantly, it reduces costs.
    “We are entering a new era of 'energy war' in the air, on land and at sea. RDA's investment in research and development in recent years places Israel among the top countries in laser energy. According to the ministry, currently no country is involved in the development of this laser system... ", - said Brigadier General of IDF Yaniv Rotem.
    1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
      Kuzmich Sibiryakov 10 August 2020 15: 16 New
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      [quote = Vitaly Gusin] [quote] [/ quote] I am extremely skeptical that we can use the installed on plane laser to shoot down missiles enemy even at close range.
      What even experts are skeptical about in the US is not the last word and many states are developing their own, for example, the "Iron Dome" was bought by the US along with the production base
      The same applies to the laser program.
      1. At the beginning of 2021, the first tests electric laser will be held in Israel, and official US persons will follow behind the process and results.
      2. A laser system developed by Israel's Elbit Systems to protect aircraft from infrared missiles will be deployed in NATO's Multinational Multi-Purpose Transport Fleet (MMF) starting in 2020, the company announced this week.
      3. The unit under development is a drone-based onboard system that "intercepts above the clouds" and "protects large areas."
      These achievements were made possible by the development electric laser, the generator allows it to be on vehicles, including on planes. This was done by combining numerous laser beams together to give it enough power (100 kW) to target warhead (or, for example, the body of a UAV), heats it up and causes it to burn or crash. This laser development, unlike the previous laser system, is based on electrical crystals and most importantly, it reduces costs.
      “We are entering a new era of 'energy war' in the air, on land and at sea. RDA's investment in research and development in recent years places Israel among the top countries in laser energy. According to the ministry, currently no country is involved in the development of this laser system... "- said Brigadier General of IDF Yaniv Rotem. [/ Quote]
      Nonsense. Try shining a laser pointer into the camera lens of a camera or phone. And make sure that you don't need to melt anything or burn it with fire. It's just that your CCD matrix will be destroyed reliably and with high quality. Laser protection against the heads of projectiles and missiles with optical guidance, of any frequency range, works like this.
    2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
      Kuzmich Sibiryakov 10 August 2020 15: 30 New
      -2
      Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)



      Electric lasers, electric crystals - this is nonsense of an illiterate second grade student.
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 6 August 2020 13: 49 New
    +2
    And-and-and, oops! Again blown away. But independent experts said, the donkey is dead. And the exhaust from it is appropriate. The history of the 80s is repeated. They also beat themselves in the chest, SDI, beam weapons, combat stations with lasers and orbital railguns. . In 10 years we are waiting for the continuation.
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 August 2020 14: 06 New
    +1
    There is no sensation here.
    Lasers are actively being put into service as close air defense.
    Against drones, first of all. Against mortar mines and small winged
    missiles and gliding ammunition. Against Grad-class missiles.
    As a weapon to protect aircraft from ATGM and explosive missiles.
    The use of lasers for strategic purposes has so far been abandoned.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 7 August 2020 09: 18 New
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      And tell me, please, at what distance from the target protection line (position of the combat laser installation), will the Tornado projectile be neutralized, if the coordinates of the launcher of this MLRS are known in advance?
      In what form will the specified neutralization be carried out (destruction by detonation of a warhead, destruction in the air, incapacitation of control equipment, immobilization ...?)
      How many shells from one salvo of the indicated MLRS will be eliminated during the fire raid?
      Quote: voyaka uh
      As a weapon to protect aircraft from ATGM and explosive missiles.

      This point is especially interesting: how are you going to protect aircraft from anti-tank systems? laughing
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 August 2020 11: 45 New
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        1) I didn't write anything about Tornado.
        But there is information about Grad missiles: the Nautilus laser in 2000
        on tests in the American desert, from a volley of 10 missiles, the Grad managed to shoot down 6.
        The warhead is struck.
        2) ATGM - a mistake. MANPADS. Thanks for the amendment! drinks
    2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
      Kuzmich Sibiryakov 10 August 2020 15: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      There is no sensation here.
      Lasers are actively being put into service as close air defense.
      Against drones, first of all. Against mortar mines and small winged
      missiles and gliding ammunition. Against Grad-class missiles.
      As a weapon to protect aircraft from ATGM and explosive missiles.
      The use of lasers for strategic purposes has so far been abandoned.

      I usually lie. A laser of any power cannot damage a projectile that is not guided by the optical head. Do not use cartoons as proof.
  18. Gato
    Gato 6 August 2020 14: 29 New
    +1
    Lasers are still far from hitting missiles

    But before the destruction of lasers by missiles - a stone's throw.
  19. Klingon
    Klingon 6 August 2020 14: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: V1er
    And how much show-off was. lol They were going to put laser cannons on airplanes and ships, create laser air defense systems, and all this garbage turned out to be zilch, like the railgun.

    and we have less zilchs or what? I counted at least three: a laser, a yadryon-baton and a Kraken, of these three zips, perhaps only the Kraken is closer to reality
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 7 August 2020 09: 28 New
      0
      And what does "vigorous loaf" do not suit you?
      It has been in service for 70 years and is not going to die. laughing
      A fluoride laser was tested at the BF against a coastal target somewhere in the early 80s :: I didn't like it - it took more than half a ton of fluorine for one shot: yes, the defeat was several kilometers away, but this is not at all the "Ah!" things were waiting ...
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 7 August 2020 13: 50 New
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        you did not understand me obviously. Yadren-Baton is a nuclear-powered rocket, that is, "Petrel." I didn't mean conventional nuclear weapons
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 10 August 2020 06: 06 New
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          Well, if the Petrel, then it's possible to use it from space - and that shit will fall on your own head ...
        2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
          Kuzmich Sibiryakov 10 August 2020 15: 21 New
          -1
          Quote: Klingon
          you did not understand me obviously. Yadren-Baton is a nuclear-powered rocket, that is, "Petrel." I didn't mean conventional nuclear weapons

          If you are a fool, you will continue your likeness of thought in the same way. Is it normal for you to express yourself - zapadlo?
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 6 August 2020 15: 31 New
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    But at a recent press conference, Griffin made a sensational statement:

    I am extremely skeptical that we can use an aircraft-mounted laser to shoot down enemy missiles even at close range.

    I think there will be a second statement:
    The US Congress should allocate funds to lag behind the Russians and Chinese in this area.
    I don’t believe in the sincerity of US military experts, why all of a sudden such revelations?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 6 August 2020 17: 41 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      The US Congress should allocate funds to lag behind the Russians and Chinese in this area.

      US military:
      1. Foreign weapons are always praised
      2. Praise their new weapon before being adopted
      3. They scold weapons after being put into service, demanding a new one.
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  22. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 7 August 2020 22: 35 New
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    How far? Yes, how to Kiev with cancer