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Zelensky and Lukashenka discuss extradition of Russians detained in Minsk

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Zelensky and Lukashenka discuss extradition of Russians detained in Minsk

The Presidents of Belarus and Ukraine Alexander Lukashenko and Vladimir Zelensky discussed the issue of extradition of Russians detained in Belarus, the discussion took place during a telephone conversation. This is reported by the office of the Ukrainian president.


The report says that the leaders of Ukraine and Belarus "discussed in detail" issues related to the detention of persons from Wagner's private military company on Belarusian territory. The parties noted the importance of "effective interaction" of the competent authorities of the two countries and the transfer of persons "suspected of terrorist activities" to Ukraine.

At the same time, it is emphasized that Zelensky is convinced that the detainees will not be able to "avoid just punishment."

I hope that all suspects of terrorist activity on the territory of Ukraine will be transferred to us for prosecution in accordance with the current international legal documents

- declared Zelensky.

In turn, Lukashenko, in a conversation with Zelensky, said that upon the fact of the detained Russians, Minsk would cooperate within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine.

Zelensky touched upon (...) the issue of militants detained in Belarus. (...) they took part in the hostilities in Donbass and the Ukrainian prosecutor's office is investigating these facts. Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine

- BelTA writes.

Let us remind you that earlier the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine announced that it would demand from Minsk the extradition of 28 "terrorists" out of 33 Russians detained in Belarus.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 5 August 2020 16: 01
    62
    Bah ...
    What a sweet couple.
    Clear.
    Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
    Saakashvili's example is contagious.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 5 August 2020 16: 14
      130
      Well, at least the fate of the Kuril Islands was not discussed, and that's good. smile
      Rather, August 9 has already passed. Tired of watching this circus in Belarus.
      An unpleasant feeling when the authorities do stupid things, but you are ashamed.
      1. Rostislav
        Rostislav 5 August 2020 16: 26
        61
        Well, I wouldn't do stupidity, meanness.
        How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 33
          49
          Quote: Rostislav
          How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?

          We are friends with peoples, not leaders. Clever has a normal attitude, stupid and does not need friends.
          1. krot
            krot 5 August 2020 18: 06
            +6
            I hope my dad is not moved by his mind, and everything will pass after the presidential elections. And our guys will come back to us.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 5 August 2020 19: 42
              +6
              Quote: krot
              I hope the dad is not moved by his mind,

              And in vain ...
            2. major147
              major147 5 August 2020 20: 44
              18
              Quote: krot
              I hope my dad is not moved by his mind, and everything will pass after the presidential elections. And our guys will come back to us.

              In the meantime lol
              A group of 97 Belarusian militants detained near Khabarovsk
              At 5 am local time, an organized group of Belarusian citizens was detained by the FSB in a sanatorium near Khabarovsk. A day earlier, some of them were seen at the processions in support of the ex-governor of the Khabarovsk Territory Sergei Furgal. request

              The FSB received information about 97 Belarusians who arrived in Khabarovsk from Belarus on August 4, the day after a major opposition rally in Minsk. The special services carried out an operation to detain a criminal group. Belarusians are suspected of organizing provocations at mass rallies. During a search, they found: a book with recipes for potato pancakes, a linen T-shirt with the words "I / We Furgal", US $ 9700 and an unknown amount of Chinese yuan and North Korean won. recourse

              “The behavior of these persons immediately aroused suspicion: they were always smiling, they were friendly, the rooms were cleaned, they behaved calmly, and in the evening they listened to the speech of some husky guy. We were also surprised by their diet: they even asked for mashed potatoes or boiled potatoes for breakfast! We heard on TV that Belarus could become a hostile country for us, that's why we called the FSB, ”said the workers of the sanatorium. No.

              President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko called this detention a "knife in the back" of the brotherly country and added that he had already sent a demand to the Foreign Ministry to immediately hand over the detainees to Belarus.
              belay
              1. Thrifty
                Thrifty 5 August 2020 21: 15
                14
                Major 147 hi -you should manage the humor column on the site! good good
                1. major147
                  major147 5 August 2020 21: 46
                  15
                  Quote: Thrifty
                  Major 147 hi -you should manage the humor column on the site! good good

                  I will not try on other people's laurels, the text is not mine. Just shared "topical".
                  And for the humor on the VO website I have 2 warnings repeat
              2. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 6 August 2020 08: 33
                0
                Magazine "Murzilka"? There is also a coloring in the "Funny Pictures" ...
            3. Sergey39
              Sergey39 5 August 2020 21: 37
              +5
              Quote: krot
              I hope the dad is not moved by his mind,

              But all the signs are there.
        2. Vend
          Vend 5 August 2020 17: 32
          10
          Quote: Rostislav
          Well, I wouldn't do stupidity, meanness.
          How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?

          And also, as always, I will look with calf eyes and wonder, what have we done? We are brothers laughing
        3. va3610
          va3610 5 August 2020 21: 43
          +3
          And he decided to sell
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 28
        12
        Quote: Thrall
        here in Belarus.
        Feeling unpleasant when authorities do stupid things

        In Ukraine, six years ago, this did not prevent anyone from committing an armed coup. The people in such cases, no one asks. Coups are made not by the people, but by the entourage (president, tsar, emperor, etc.), and first of all, from the special services. How is Lukashenka's entourage there? Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.
        1. Vend
          Vend 5 August 2020 17: 33
          +4
          Quote: orionvitt
          Quote: Thrall
          here in Belarus.
          Feeling unpleasant when authorities do stupid things

          In Ukraine, six years ago, this did not prevent anyone from committing an armed coup. The people in such cases, no one asks. Coups are made not by the people, but by the entourage (president, tsar, emperor, etc.), and first of all, from the special services. How is Lukashenka's entourage there? Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.

          In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 40
            18
            In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

            But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.
            1. Vend
              Vend 5 August 2020 17: 46
              -4
              Quote: alexmach
              In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

              But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.

              Yes, that's not necessary, the oligarch will not invest in one and will not pull. so much money in the Maidan, only a country with a large budget. for example the USA. Calculate how much you need to spend, for the sake of interest, people at protests, pay for every day, militants, and after all, everyone also needs to eat every day, feed them three times a day, provide a roof over their heads, weapons, etc. And this is not 100 people , but thousands, if not millions))
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 5 August 2020 18: 07
                +6
                Yes, that's not necessary, the oligarch will not invest in one and will not pull. so much money in the Maidan, only a country with a large budget.

                I ask you, what are these fables? What are the investments in the Maidan then? In a couple of hundred provakators to fight the golden eagle, in a couple of "independent media", and a little police to do what they need. Once again, it was impossible to do anything of this without the support of big people from the inside.
                Calculate how much you need to spend, for the sake of interest, to people at protests, pay for each day, to militants

                This is a penny.
                but everyone also needs to eat every day, feed them three times a day,

                This is also not a lot, in addition, the compassionate population has moved in. The Maidan enjoyed widespread popular support.
                provide a roof over your head

                They provided for themselves, including the capture of buildings.
                weapons, etc.

                Weapon? This is a dozen rifles or what? Or are you talking about thousands of plywood shields and motorcycle helmets? This is the problem, I can't argue here.
                And this is not 100 people, but thousands, if not millions))

                Are you laughing, what millions? There were a couple of hundred paid provocateurs fighters. Those who fought with the police all these months. These were well paid and fully supported, and there was nothing of them at all. There was also a little paid extras. Well, the rest is all "useful fools" aka popular movement. Volunteers. Well, there was some kind of transportation of activists from the regions, there was some work with all sorts of organizations that supported them. But this is all a trifle. Small trifle.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2020 20: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: alexmach

                  I ask you, what are these fables? What are the investments in the Maidan then? In a couple of hundred provakators to fight the golden eagle, in a couple of "independent media", and a little police to do what they need. Once again, it was impossible to do anything of this without the support of big people from the inside.

                  Do you think so or have you been taught to speak so? The fact that not a single Maidan can do without domestic interests in the highest echelons of power is - yes. Everything else you said is utter nonsense.
                  1. Maidan in Ukraine began to be prepared from the end of the "pamaranchevoy" Maidan, and this is 2005.
                  2. For this, starting from 2005, we started in camps in Poland, Lithuania, etc. at first, until my father drove away, Belarus. prepare "militants". They were trained in methods of countering the police and other actions. Young people from all cities of Ukraine were sent to these camps.
                  Does this require funds?
                  It was these "militants" trained in these camps who led the fives, tens and hundreds of Maidan members. It was they who maintained discipline in their fives, tens and hundreds, and it was they who paid the daily allowance to each of their subordinates.
                  Does this require funds?
                  You write that the compassionate inhabitants supplied the Maydanuts with food. Yeah, supplied. Canned tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, all sorts of salads. Will you last long on this? Believe me, the people of Kiev did not carry fat, meat, sausage to the Maidan.
                  So, funds were needed to feed the Maidan.
                  The mattress makers themselves admitted that they spent 5 lards of greenery on "maintaining democracy in Ukraine". And you say - a penny.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 44
                    +4
                    Everything else you said is utter nonsense.

                    Of course, utter nonsense, you know better from Krasnoyarsk via the Internet than me, who lived in Ukraine at that time.
                    1. Maidan in Ukraine began to be prepared from the end of the "pamaranchevoy" Maidan, and this is 2005.

                    Nonsense. Nobody cooked it in 2005. In 2005, the winners were busy dividing up power and resources that fell on them, and this was what the entire Yushchenko presidency was doing. Yes, some processes were launched then, some even deliberately, but then there could be no talk of a second Maidan.
                    For this, starting in 2005, we started in camps in Poland, Lithuania, etc. at first, until my father drove away, Belarus. prepare "militants". They were trained in methods of countering the police and other actions. Young people from all cities of Ukraine were sent to these camps.

                    Yeah ... especially from Donetsk, Lugansk, Simferopol, Kharkov. Nonsense. There were always some camps in the Carpathians, I talked with a person who claimed that they were training volunteers for the Chechen war, he was most likely involved in tourist training. Or maybe he just lied. In addition, there are many all sorts of children's and youthful terry patriotic societies working with schoolchildren. But what would the militants have been preparing since 2005, you were joking. For so many years of continuous training, it was possible to put together an entire army. The militants on the Maidan were nothing at all, they were recruited from football hooligans (always the fiefdom of the special services) and all kinds of nationalist groups.
                    and hundreds, and it was they who paid the per diem to each of their subordinates.

                    Yes, there was no daily allowance for each of the subordinates. Hundreds there were formed mainly by "useful fools". There was nothing professional there.
                    You write that the compassionate inhabitants supplied the Maydanuts with food. Yeah, supplied. Canned tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, all sorts of salads. Will you last long on this?

                    What are you talking about. Field kitchens worked there, they cooked all kinds of porridge, stews, sandwiches and hot teas. Money for this (to help the self-defense of the Maidan) was collected from private individuals, including, for example, at my then work. I lived in the city of Lvov there, in my young and wealthy environment, almost everyone donated. Collected a lot. You need a lot of money to provide porridge for a thousand or two people for a week? Count for yourself. There they fed only those who lived there, spent the night.
                    The mattress makers themselves admitted that they spent 5 lards of greenery on "maintaining democracy in Ukraine"

                    For how many years and for what exactly? First of all, all non-profit organizations. There was also an Internet TV channel that got into the air right at the beginning of the Maidan.
                    1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
                      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 21: 00
                      +1
                      You will go far ... Until they stop you.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 01
                        0
                        And all the best to you.
                      2. Vend
                        Vend 6 August 2020 10: 35
                        0
                        Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
                        You will go far ... Until they stop you.

                        No, it will come))) of such martyrs they make)))) if he is not on the payroll)))
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2020 21: 46
                      -3
                      Quote: alexmach

                      Of course, utter nonsense, you know better from Krasnoyarsk via the Internet than me, who lived in Ukraine at that time.

                      Alexander, you can be in the kitchen all day and stay hungry, or you can be in the restaurant locker room all day and be full. It all depends on the individual characteristics of the person.
                      Quote: alexmach

                      Nonsense. Nobody cooked it in 2005. In 2005, the winners were busy dividing the power and the resources that fell on them,

                      For Western intelligence services, the orange Maidan was a failure - they failed to ignite a civil war. And they, having studied their mistakes, immediately began to prepare the next Maidan. And they prepared it for 2013.
                      The change of power was not enough for them. They needed a civil conflict with access to Russia. And they succeeded in 2014. These things don't happen by accident. Very competent people who are always in the shadows have been working on this for a long time. All who are on the surface are puppets, executors of the plan. Could you, from a heterogeneous crowd, put together a detachment capable of seizing power in Lviv and weapons in the military unit and the GUVD? Not! I'm sure! But in Lviv and all other cities there were (?) People who were able to do this without a hitch. Accident? Or maybe a long preparation?
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Yeah ... especially from Donetsk, Lugansk, Simferopol, Kharkov.

                      Yes, imagine. And the national battalions "Donbass" "Azov" and others from Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk were formed?
                      Quote: alexmach
                      put together. The militants on the Maidan were nothing at all, they were recruited from football hooligans (always the fiefdom of the special services) and all sorts of nationalist groups.

                      It is immediately clear that you have never been involved in organizing protest movements. And you have no idea how and what is done there. It seems to you - people left and everything went by itself. Naive.
                      Quote: alexmach

                      For how many years and for what exactly?

                      Yes, it took them almost 10 years to turn fraternal Ukraine into an anti-Russian Ukraine. And their plan succeeded.
                      Just do not make anyone laugh, saying that it all happened by itself. People gathered themselves and did everything themselves.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 5 August 2020 23: 48
                        +2
                        For Western intelligence services, the orange Maidan was a failure - they failed to ignite a civil war.

                        Nobody tried to kindle it then. They did not set such goals. This is evidenced by at least its peaceful course and the practically absence of forceful confrontation and any provocations.
                        I will tell you more - the war after the second Maidan, and even on such a scale, came as a surprise to many, although they undoubtedly expected the continuation of the confrontation.
                        And he was 100% successful - all the goals were achieved.
                        Could you, from a heterogeneous crowd, put together a detachment capable of seizing power in Lviv and weapons in the military unit and the GUVD? Not!

                        Yes, these were probably prepared actions. But here it is worth mentioning the state of the police and the Interior Ministry by the end of this Maidan. They have long been limited in capacity. At the same time, a large number of weapons fell into random hands. Eyewitnesses report that the boys ran through the streets with weapons. Then they were gradually disarmed by the "elders".
                        But in Lviv and all other cities there were

                        What other cities like that? I only know about the case in Lvov.
                        Yes, imagine. And the national battalions "Donbass" "Azov" and others from Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk were formed?

                        And they were formed very much later than the Maidan.
                        It is immediately clear that you have never been involved in organizing protest movements. And you have no idea how and what is done there. It seems to you - people left and everything went by itself. Naive.

                        Did you do it? Have you decided to share your experience?
                        And where did I say that no one was organizing? Where did I say that "people came out and everything went?" But if you think that a million (as a separate story was believed) of protest rallies can in principle be organized and paid for, then this is you the very expression of naivety in which you are trying to convict me. Maidan had very wide support from the population, at least in western Ukraine, but also in the center. Most of the participants, including the "self-defenders", including, I am sure, all those who died in the confrontation were "volunteers" (paid militants and provocateurs usually disappeared when it became dangerous).
                        Yes, it took them almost 10 years to turn fraternal Ukraine into an anti-Russian Ukraine. And their plan succeeded.

                        This was not done for 10 years, it was done from the very beginning of Ukrainian independence, because this is the objective interest of the ruling elites, as in Belarus, by the way. For your information, Russia also took part in this and did it quite clumsily.
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 10: 19
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Nobody tried to kindle it then.

                        Listen to one of the leaders of the "Orange Maidan" - Chervonenko. You will learn a lot of interesting things.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        I will tell you more - the war after the second Maidan, and even on such a scale, was a surprise for many, even though they

                        For people like you, yes. And for those who prepared it, that was the goal.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        But here it is worth mentioning the state of the police and the Interior Ministry by the end of this Maidan. They have long been limited in capacity. At the same time, a large number of weapons

                        You stubbornly "put the horse behind the cart." This was a consequence of the massive demands of the West and the United States to Yanukovych not to use force against the Maydauns.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What other cities like that? I only know about the case in Lvov.

                        Well, then why are you clever here if you don't know anything?
                        Quote: alexmach
                        And they were formed very much later than the Maidan.

                        The question was not - when (?), But - from whom? No need to play around.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Did you do it?

                        Imagine.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Have you decided to share your experience?

                        You don't need it.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        This was not done for 10 years, it was done from the very beginning of Ukrainian independence, because this is the objective interest of the ruling elites, as in Belarus, by the way. For your information, Russia also took part in this and did it quite clumsily.

                        Yes. But there is a "passive phase" and there is an "active phase"
                      3. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 10: 48
                        +1
                        Listen to one of the leaders of the "Orange Maidan" - Chervonenko. You will learn a lot of interesting things.

                        I listened, I did not recognize anything confirming your words. And by the way, after the second Maidan, he also spoke very moderately and deliberately.
                        For people like you, yes. And for those who prepared it, that was the goal.

                        This was not the goal, otherwise they would not have sat for the first month in complete suspended animation and unconsciousness. They would be ready and not gathering strength for 2 months.
                        You stubbornly "put the horse behind the cart". This was a consequence of the massive demands of the West and the United States to Yanukovych about the non-use of force against the Maydauns.

                        You put the horse in front of the cart. The consequence of the demands was the complete inaction of Yanukovych and Co. The state of the law-enforcers stemmed mainly from the moods of a split society.
                        Well, then why are you clever here if you don't know anything?

                        Do you know a lot? It doesn't look like it at all. I asked a simple question: in what other cities, I don’t see the answer, instead I see a transition to personalities. I lived in Lviv and I was primarily interested in my surroundings and I admit that I could have missed something, but as far as I remember it happened only in Lviv. Do not agree? Give the facts. In what other cities during the Maidan were police stations or military units seized, and where else were weapons stolen from them? You can not? Stop pouring from empty to empty!
                        The question was not - when (?), But - from whom? No need to play around.

                        Which is what I wish for you. You, like a real troll, avoid answering the questions asked. I do not know from whom specifically they were formed. The payroll is not available to me, as well as to you. I, like you, can only operate on assumptions. My assumptions - that of all the rabble. If they had been prepared for years, they would have been on the front line and not engaged in PR-th and looting. In fact, the only combat-ready units in the first phase of the war were the professional military. Disantura, Marine Corps, militia special forces that held the same airports. All informal associations acted either as cannon fodder, whipping boys, or marauder punishers.
                        Imagine.

                        It's hard to believe.
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 11: 40
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach
                        I listened, I did not recognize anything confirming your words.

                        They listened badly. "We barely managed to avoid bloodshed, and there were such" proposals ".
                        Quote: alexmach

                        This was not the goal, otherwise they would not have sat for the first month in complete suspended animation and unconsciousness. They would be ready and not gathering strength for 2 months.

                        Who are you talking about? About puppets? Or about puppeteers? What do you know about the latter? - Nothing! So how can you say that they "sat in suspended animation for a month"? Don't puff out your cheeks.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        The state of law enforcers stemmed mainly from the moods of a split society.

                        Only a person who does not understand the meaning of the word - order can speak like that. It is this word that defines the "state of law enforcement". They hate Yanukovych precisely because of his order not to use force. They were beaten, burned, shot, but they had no right to answer.
                        And if they had received an order, then, despite the "split society", they would have cleared the Maidan within an hour.
                        Listen, that's enough bullshit already.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        You are here to avoid the answers to the questions asked as a real troll.

                        Have you asked me at least one question?
                        Quote: alexmach
                        It's hard to believe.

                        Your right.
                      5. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 11: 50
                        0
                        They listened badly. "We barely managed to avoid bloodshed, and there were such" proposals ".

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?
                        Who are you talking about? About puppets? Or about puppeteers? What do you know about the latter? - Nothing! So how can you say that they "sat in suspended animation for a month"? Don't puff out your cheeks.

                        "puppeteers" you also greatly overestimate. There was a recording of a telephone conversation between Psaki and the ambassador in Kiev immediately after the Maidan. They were preparing for the same division of power as after the first Maidan. PS: You, too, would be blown away, you are our internet connoisseur. I will stop this communication if you are not able to conduct the discussion at least somewhat politely.
                        Only a person who does not understand the meaning of the word can speak like this - an order

                        La-la poplar. Law enforcers are also people, they are also part of society. They are influenced by the processes taking place in society.
                        They were beaten, burned, shot, but they had no right to answer.

                        This is not entirely true, and it was not at all true.
                        Listen, that's enough bullshit already.

                        Enough, it hurts. You jumped from the events in Lviv to the Maidan. Did not notice?
                        Have you asked me at least one question?

                        And twice. The same. According to what you wrote. Simple in terms of verifiable facts. You ignored it twice and went personal instead of answering. This conversation can be ended. You are our expert.
                      6. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 13: 01
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?

                        Try to comprehend what you said.
                        It is difficult to talk to a person who does not even understand what he is talking about.
                      7. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 13: 57
                        0
                        Talking to you from the day I heard
                        1.conjectures, conjectures and conjectures
                        2. Lots of personal attacks, nothing else.
                      8. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 17: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?

                        Why try to avoid something that has not been prepared?
                        And if you tried to avoid it, then you knew that it was being prepared?
                        You really figure it out in your brains, otherwise mutually exclusive concepts coexist peacefully there.
                      9. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 21: 39
                        0
                        Why try to avoid something that has not been prepared?

                        And can events happen at all that were not prepared in advance, in your opinion?
                        Could the bloodshed itself have happened during mass meetings of thousands of people and a month-long confrontation? Without preliminary preparation by anyone?
                        And if you tried to avoid it, then you knew that it was being prepared?

                        No, it doesn't. Be friends with logic at least a little. Protest actions of many thousands are an environment in which bloodshed can easily happen by itself.
                        You really figure it out in your brains, otherwise mutually exclusive concepts coexist peacefully there.

                        They are not mutually exclusive. Understand first yourself with the concepts you are operating.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 58
    -3
    From Crimea by regular flights - a trifle? Well - well ... Rose-colored glasses are cheap, however, but thank God, they are not in fashion ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 02
      +4
      From Crimea by regular flights - a trifle?

      What are you writing about? Cometary don't read the answer, write?
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 56
    +1
    Lord, open secret ... Paid by the European Union, trained in the Baltic States and Poland in special. camps ... And to throw a match is always a lot of useful idiots from the workers, peasants and "intellectuals" environment.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 17: 55
    0
    Quote: alexmach
    In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

    But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.

    And who promised and promises support and gave clear promises to these oligarchs and serious interested parties ... Who is giving them cookies? These faces themselves will be cowardly, without support from outside ... Without cookies and guarantees .. Weak in the knees ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 48
      +1
      And who promised and promises support and gave out intelligible promises to these oligarchs and serious stakeholders

      Ehm .. have you seen something? "The entire civilized world", live and at the level of official statements. Frau Merkel, for example.
      These faces themselves will be cowardly, without support from outside ... Without cookies and guarantees .. Weak in the knees ...

      Come on cowardly. Yulia Vladimirovna has been to prison 2 times. Senya Yayyenyuk probably stood for a month before that with an indefinite Maidan, and they had crazy rhetoric in the last few years in a row, only Senya was not needed by anyone, either with Julia or without her, he was rumored to be with hangers-on when everything went bang with the main thing Maidan drove others.
  • venik
    venik 5 August 2020 20: 47
    +3
    Quote: alexmach
    But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside.

    ------
    Quote: Wend
    In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

    =========
    Guys! Stop cursing! The point is, you are both RIGHT. Yes, without serious "injections" because of the "hillock" - nothing will work out the oligarchs simply will not be able to agree among themselves! On the other hand, it is not so clearly visible "from behind the hill": HOW these financial flows are more correctly distributed within the country. And the oligarchs - both the media are "fed" (those that do not belong to them), and officials (including those from law enforcement agencies) are "financially sucked" and have the necessary connections. And they understand the situation BETTER, because they see it "from the inside" ......
    That is when these two forces (internal oligarchs and external sponsors) find a common language ..... That's when a "color-revolutionary situation" arises.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 04
      +2
      oligarchs simply will not be able to agree among themselves!

      Why won't they be able to, if there are common interests?
      Another thing is that, yes, a signal from behind a hillock was still needed. And she did appear more than once and directly on the air and in official statements.
      1. venik
        venik 6 August 2020 10: 04
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        Why won't they be able to, if there are common interests?

        ========
        Because they have - NO common interests - only - PERSONAL! Sometimes they overlap, even partially coincide ..... But much more often (more precisely, almost always) - they are in "antiphase"! Especially when they begin to "divide the skin of a bear that has not yet been killed" - then Oh-oh-oh-oh! Everything here resembles a pack of jackals at the corpse of a donkey! Only "gingerbread and stick" because of the "hillock" (more precisely, "ocean") - and can act as a consolidating factor! And as the experience of the same Ukraine shows, it performs well!
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 6 August 2020 10: 50
          0
          Because they have - NO common interests - only - PERSONAL!

          There were, they had common interests. Yanukovych managed to cross the road to everyone and become a threat to everyone. Even for his former patron Akhmetov.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 45
    +9
    Quote: Wend
    and Western emissaries.

    Western emissaries only inspire "conspiracies". But they just need to rely on traitors, among the highest echelons of power, who are the driving force behind the coups. A textbook example is Ukraine. The overwhelming majority of top officials under Yanukovych, having taken the most active part and supported the Maidan, retained and even improved their "positions" under the "new government". How many money they grabbed on this, I generally keep quiet. You look at the list of these "revolutionaries" and you realize that who was, he stayed. All these names have been "heard" for twenty years already.
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 01: 59
    0
    Quote: orionvitt
    Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.

    Plans and instructions are already being announced:

    And the cookies at the freshly baked state embassy are ready.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 5 August 2020 18: 08
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    It would rather be August 9

    Everything has been decided long ago. And the rating, and for-and-against ... We in Russia went through this even during the EBN-e. The Belarusian electoral committee, I think, has prepared the same for a long time.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 51
    +1
    This is not stupidity. This is mistake. And it seems fatal.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 26
    10
    Now we can say for sure that all this farce was clearly orchestrated by the special services of the United States and NATO, that Lukashenka did not just go to pieces, but a la yanuca-vegetables believed the fairy tales that “abroad will help him!” Here you have a whole ruble in trifles! Now the Kremlin is obliged to say its weighty word, but we are unlikely to hear it! That is, the Maidan in Belarusian by the hands of Western special services is inevitable, just "the question of the price" - everything will be in a tough form now, or some time after the elections of himself, Lukashenka will suddenly "suddenly fall ill" and a puppet from the USA will come to power.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 31
      +6
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now the Kremlin is obliged to say its weighty word, but we are unlikely to hear it!

      I really hope that you are wrong. It seems to me that yes, here we have been outplayed and now there is simply not enough time to prepare the necessary steps. It would be sad if this is not the case (in the sense of the steps will not be correct).
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 5 August 2020 16: 38
        15
        Quote: NIKNN
        It seems to me that yes here we were outplayed

        We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently, but something like that was worth waiting for after Lukashenka's rapprochement with the United States and we saw it pretty quickly
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 41
          0
          Well, how we outplayed, I put it so figuratively, we did not expect this move, let's say we were not ready, in this sense we outplayed, or overslept, it will be closer. Somehow it turned out that Ukraine reacted faster than we did, so they were ready.
          1. Kushka
            Kushka 5 August 2020 17: 07
            +7
            I have already noted once - the girl rode around Kiev, and Pompeo himself (!),
            Gossek, just a minute! And we "didn't expect". And what, it was necessary that the US Senate
            held an off-site meeting in Minsk ?!
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 44
            +4
            We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently

            In the situation with the arrested, they have not yet outplayed, this situation has not yet ended.
            And in the situation with Belarus as a whole, they outplayed in 91, and since then everything has been difficult, now a little the scales seem to be going in their direction too, but nothing has really been decided yet.
    2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
      The Little Humpbacked Horse 5 August 2020 16: 32
      17
      Quote: Thrifty
      that all this farce was clearly orchestrated by the special services of the United States and NATO


      What kind of special services, why special services, it is finally Lukashenka who showed his true face, and then everything is dad and dad
      1. Simon
        Simon 5 August 2020 17: 12
        +4
        This suggests that even "allies" cannot be trusted! request
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 5 August 2020 17: 29
          -3
          Perhaps it would not be worth talking about Russia's "allies" in the plural?
          If Belarus, the only ally of the Russian Federation so far, is not already an ally in the opinion of some patriots, then what other allies can we talk about?
          Mentioning Venezuela and Zimbabwe from Nicaragua is somehow not comme il faut, but the partners in the BRICS, SCO, EAEU, APEC are still allies. Everyone pulls the blanket in his direction.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 5 August 2020 18: 08
            +7
            Returning to the original, Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy. Alas, no other is given, the rest are freeloaders and traitors.
    3. BAI
      BAI 5 August 2020 16: 43
      -1
      all this farce is clearly directed by the special services of the usa and nato

      They sent the Russians to Belarus?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 46
        +1
        BAI is they promised Lukashenka "heavenly booths", if he "dips" Russia into something soft, but smelling bad! And these 33 detainees were just the right thing for the anti-Russian exodus "by the order of the owner"!
      2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
        The Little Humpbacked Horse 5 August 2020 16: 58
        11
        Quote: BAI
        They sent the Russians to Belarus?


        Not in the Republic of Belarus, but through the Republic of Belarus, Lukashenko, unlike us, did not close the borders because of the coronavirus, so everyone mainly flew through the Republic of Belarus
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 15
        0
        Quote: BAI
        They sent the Russians to Belarus?

        Not directly. They could well have found the Russians who sent the Russians.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 5 August 2020 17: 39
    +3
    What a sweet couple.
    Aha straight "twix" in one package, it turns out the composition is the same.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 18: 34
    +6
    Quote: Livonetc
    Bah ...
    What a sweet couple.
    Clear.
    Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
    Saakashvili's example is contagious.

    You can say The moment of truth has come ... Who is a friend, who is an enemy, who is like that ... The true face will be revealed to the citizens of Russia. not powdered by the media and not embellished with verbal husks ... The face of Russia's only ally. He will give our guys over to Svido ukram, which means he was lying all the time, pretending ...
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 5 August 2020 18: 41
      +2
      Quote: 30 vis
      Quote: Livonetc
      Bah ...
      What a sweet couple.
      Clear.
      Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
      Saakashvili's example is contagious.

      You can say The moment of truth has come ... Who is a friend, who is an enemy, who is like that ... The true face will be revealed to the citizens of Russia. not powdered by the media and not embellished with verbal husks ... The face of Russia's only ally. He will give our guys over to Svido ukram, which means he was lying all the time, pretending ...

      If he surrenders, must be pursued without a statute of limitations.
      Gingerbread is good, correct and tasty.
      But the whip should always be right and close at hand.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 21
        0
        Quote: Livonetc
        If he surrenders, ...

        It is difficult to pass: those with dual citizenship should be sent to two countries at the same time.
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 5 August 2020 21: 09
    -5
    It looks like the United States will take under the patronage of Belarus and Putin will receive a penndil and a retirement onion
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 5 August 2020 21: 17
      +3
      Only Israel is under the auspices of the US.
      The rest is not covered, in terms of - they have the most tonsils.
      And what is happening has nothing to do with Putin.
      If Belarus goes downhill, repeating the mistakes of the ruins, then this is the misfortune of the inhabitants of Belarus.
      We are afraid for them.
      But Russia will no longer get into this cesspool.
      Got drunk on full crap.
  • jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 7 August 2020 11: 44
    0
    And in Zhitomir, what's not to get?))
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 5 August 2020 16: 05
    13
    Lukashenka, of course, has gone crazy, but I think he will not issue an extradition.

    Although where he and what will knock is an open question ...
    1. Rusik.S
      Rusik.S 5 August 2020 16: 09
      +5
      And what will stop him from giving them out?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 58
        0
        Rusk. S-I'm afraid that the next news will be about the transfer of these 28 of our citizens for reprisal to the Ukrainian regime. ..
        1. Rusik.S
          Rusik.S 5 August 2020 19: 48
          +1
          Wait and see.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 45
        +3
        A sense of self-preservation?
        1. Rusik.S
          Rusik.S 5 August 2020 19: 49
          0
          I doubt there will be an answer
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 50
            +1
            In the sense of doubt? They say there is already a queue at the border that has grown up. And Lukashenka, by and large, has not done anything yet, only made some noise.
    2. cniza
      cniza 5 August 2020 16: 10
      17
      There is no longer any certainty, he just looks like a poorly sane ...
      1. Igor Gul
        Igor Gul 5 August 2020 17: 45
        +2
        Rather, a frightened, confused one.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 August 2020 17: 51
          +4
          Everything is there together and hysteria is close ...
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 5 August 2020 22: 36
        +5
        Vit, and I have a different question - where is the "mighty bunch" of VO commentators (Stasiks, Svarogs, Lexus, Malyuta, Sylvester under the leadership of a Napoleon), who had an anuresis for Batka being right? They are silent as if they were left somewhere. For Lukashenko - I will answer with the words of Putin for Yanukovych - this is a Traitor! And who praises him too. Now let the rat pups minus.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 August 2020 09: 03
          +1
          hi
          They try not to visit such topics, they are "sour" from them ..., but then there is this version:

          A participant in the armed conflict in Donbass, who wished to remain anonymous, spoke about the events associated with the detention of 33 Russians in Belarus. In a conversation with a journalist from the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper, he described the whole scheme of what had happened.

          According to the source, he was supposed to be the 34th detainee. He stressed that the so-called private military company (PMC) Wagner, to which the Belarusian authorities attribute the detainees, has nothing to do with the situation.

          The man said that the job offer was received at the beginning of May, and later the price, contract terms and logistics were discussed: "It was an offer from representatives of the customer company - a large company." He noted that already at that time doubts began to creep in at him for many reasons.

          When asked about the people who hired the fighters, the source said that "no one saw them." However, he confirmed that he continues to contact several intermediaries at the moment. “[They] pretend to be shocked too. It is clear that in such a situation, everyone is trying to save their own skin, ”said the source of the newspaper, speaking about the reaction of customers to what happened.

          The source said that initially their first group was supposed to be sent to Venezuela. “The last factor that stopped me was the question:“ Will you be a sapper commander? ” Stop, guys, I, of course, understand everything, but where is the escort of cargo, and where are the sappers? In principle, they cannot be there. That's it, I don’t play such games, ”he said. The man noted that after that he refused the offer.

          According to the interlocutor of MK, on ​​July 25, the group was supposed to fly to Istanbul, but did not get on the plane, despite the registration passed in advance: “But instead of that, for some reason, they leave for the hotel, which was booked in advance. Later they explained to me that a command was sent from above - not to fly. "

          When asked whose "game" this could be, the source said that the President of Belarus. “Definitely, [Alexander] Lukashenko. Where politics is, the law raises its paws. As it seems to me, there is no mnogohodovochka here, Old Man just wants to stay in power at any cost, and therefore arranged an amateur performance, "he said. Speaking about the detained friends, the man admitted that in the current situation "they are not even pawns, they are meat."
    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 5 August 2020 16: 15
      15
      Yes, Rygorych made porridge ...
      If it does, it will be the transition of the "red line". There will be no turning back. Here either with Russia or against it ...
      1. Andr_38
        Andr_38 5 August 2020 16: 38
        16
        Quote: x.andvlad

        If it does, it will be the transition of the "red line". There will be no turning back. Here either with Russia or against it ...

        He has already crossed this red line. And, I hope, Putin has drawn the appropriate conclusions regarding this monster.
      2. Junior Private
        Junior Private 5 August 2020 18: 09
        +2
        If he does, he will sign his own verdict. Lukashenka himself seems ripe for the betrayal of Belarus. As always, Russia will be blamed for EVERYTHING (the United States will help, it's not in vain that Old Man licked with Pompeo), and Belarusians will pay for everything.
    4. alex34
      alex34 5 August 2020 16: 16
      22
      has already extradited our citizens to Belarus several times. recently, a blogger who ridiculed Azerbaijan's border guards on the internet for 3 years was given so that it would not be casual to mock.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 5 August 2020 16: 45
        +4
        The blogger was a citizen of several countries. At the request of his Israeli friends, he was released and he went to Israel.
    5. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 August 2020 16: 29
      15
      I’m afraid he’ll give it out, but we decided not to recognize the elections as there were no observers.
      And there there is an option to call Russia through parliament, as a body elected by the people. And then to talk in detail with the detained citizen Bulba.
      Though dreams, dreams ...
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 5 August 2020 16: 35
        10
        Quote: K-612-O
        I’m afraid

        If it does, it will be another blow to the image of the Russian leadership. They cannot defend their own, so. And whoever says, they say they are mercenaries, they do not feel sorry for them, let them remember. that they are citizens of the Russian Federation, and this can happen to anyone. hi
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 6 August 2020 08: 05
          0
          dad is not a suicide)))) after that he will not live to see NG
    6. Simon
      Simon 5 August 2020 17: 24
      +2
      Yes of course! Lukashenka will be hard now. It was he who fell between the anvil and the hammer, due to his big misunderstanding. In short, not yours, not ours, but he definitely made himself worse. fool
    7. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 18: 38
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      Although where and what will he knock is an open question.

      He, like Yanukovych in his time, keeps his money where? So the uncle from the State Department crushed him.
    8. your1970
      your1970 5 August 2020 19: 15
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      Lukashenka, of course, has gone crazy, but I think he will not issue an extradition.

      Although where he and what will knock is an open question ...

      If not, country 404 will say that Belarus is harboring terrorists ...
      Also not ice for RB ..
  • fuel oil
    fuel oil 5 August 2020 16: 05
    22
    "Ally"...
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 05
    +8
    For the sake of maintaining power, Luke is of course ready for anything. But 404 is not his assistant in this.
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 August 2020 16: 09
      +5
      So she was already in his hands, why arrange this show?
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 30
        +3
        So he is not sure of the campaign in himself. Why else would you put your competitors in jail?
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 August 2020 16: 49
          +6
          So I mean it, all the competitors are sitting, why another show, what is the logic?
          1. Sahalinets
            Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 56
            +3
            He is already afraid of women ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 5 August 2020 17: 05
              +4
              And she has already turned to Merkel for protection. yes
  • cniza
    cniza 5 August 2020 16: 09
    +7
    Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine


    Is that why he keeps pumping up? What is he seeking?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 5 August 2020 16: 14
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine


      Is that why he keeps pumping up? What is he seeking?

      know him who has promised and will remain in power and help the main thing with the Russian Federation quarrel by any means
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 August 2020 16: 48
        +5
        But he is not, because he knows the value of their promises ...
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      1. cniza
        cniza 5 August 2020 16: 51
        +5
        Quote: Sahalinets
        My ex-wife was also sure that I was not going anywhere. And I was very surprised when I became an ex. wink


        A good comparison, only he is not a woman and understands that he has crossed all the red lines and continues to use a drill ...
        1. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 57
          +3
          Don't overestimate his intelligence!
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 August 2020 17: 07
            +4
            You don't have to be very smart here, here is the loss of common sense ...
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 5 August 2020 16: 10
    +4
    A freak with a letter ... negative
  • CorvusMag
    CorvusMag 5 August 2020 16: 11
    +1
    When I was on an excursion to Sochi, the guide showed us Lukashenka's dacha ..... Maybe he really doesn't need it?
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 5 August 2020 16: 12
    11
    if he does, it will be a betrayal in full!
  • polpot
    polpot 5 August 2020 16: 17
    21
    A wonderful duet of a clown and a schizophrenic, we only feel sorry for our people there.
  • KAVBER
    KAVBER 5 August 2020 16: 19
    +5
    Either this is a cunning game of ours and the Belarusians, and the troops raised on alarm will go where they need to, and will not crawl on the joint border, or Lukashenka has gone completely out of power and then anything can happen. In any case, the only question for the growth of the Russian Federation is when and what.
    1. demo
      demo 5 August 2020 16: 24
      +5
      The last in your statement is more true.

      Apparently Luke thinks like this - After us, even the flood!
  • fuel oil
    fuel oil 5 August 2020 16: 22
    11
    At best, he will end up like Slobodan Milosevic, at worst like Gaddafi.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 32
      -1
      Quote: black oil
      At best, he will end up like Slobodan Milosevic, at worst like Gaddafi.

      In a sense, such a formulation is a good characteristic for him.
      Those. the interests of their people are not alien. hi
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 August 2020 16: 23
    +5
    2nd movement of the Marlezon ballet
  • Lumpen
    Lumpen 5 August 2020 16: 25
    +1
    Now "father" has good relations with Ze, especially since an official visit is scheduled for October, and not very good relations with GDP, but the country is an ally. Let's see further "gestures". There is no definite answer
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat 5 August 2020 16: 30
      -1
      I bet that the elections will end, the guys will be returned to their homeland. And so the owner / sponsor Ze pushed through a bad ban on the purchase of electricity from Belarus, and this is not beneficial for us, not for the Russians. Since this money would be used to pay off the loan to Rosatom.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 5 August 2020 16: 48
        +4
        Quote: Darkesstcat
        I bet that the elections will end, the guys will be returned to their homeland.

        I really want to hope ...
        The head of the Belarusian parliament's commission on international affairs Andrei Savinykh told Izvestia that the situation with the detention of Russian citizens lies within the legal framework, “Belarusian legislation will be applied against them, there should be no insinuations”. At the same time, the politician allowed their subsequent extradition to Russia. - Everything that is possible from a legal point of view will be implemented. I do not see any legal problems for this, and even more so there will be no political problems, - the politician stressed.
        https://iz.ru/1043922/elnar-bainazarov/sudiat-po-vsemu-v-minske-dopustili-ekstraditciiu-zaderzhannykh-rossiian
        but somehow ...
        1. Kisa
          Kisa 6 August 2020 01: 13
          +1
          how it goes - if everything is quiet then tickets to them to Moscow. if the hard scenario is on the 9th, then to Kiev (although it is not even necessary - for this you need iron bells
  • pepel
    pepel 5 August 2020 16: 29
    +4
    "Daddy" bit the bit. am
  • Coconut
    Coconut 5 August 2020 16: 31
    +7
    if Lukash will do it ... then he has a cover ..)
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 32
    +7
    laughing Hello, father, anybody.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 August 2020 16: 35
      +9
      Note that you can't see them here. Especially those who write Russia with a small letter
      1. Andr_38
        Andr_38 5 August 2020 16: 41
        +3
        Quote: K-612-O
        Note that you can't see them here. Especially those who write Russia with a small letter

        They frantically come up with at least some arguments and excuses. They'll be drawn soon, I'm sure. laughing
  • shoroh
    shoroh 5 August 2020 16: 33
    +7
    This is what happens when you play in power without thinking ahead. If in the 2000s he held a referendum and returned to his native harbor, he would sit quietly as the president of the Republic of Byalorus to death, and now he, like missing cutlets, is trying to figure out where to run to the house or burp back through his mouth.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 35
    +5
    Rygorych is in his repertoire - both ours and yours. He tries to shake his bakhatovectorism, as if on the issue of extradition of Russians it is possible to simultaneously please both Russia and former Ukraine. Fucking ally. Luka really got a kick out of it. Although it has its own "reality" laughingAnd the Kremlin did not show up for the "war" again. Well, sho for such a hello? So he will win, virtually, on his ass. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 39
    +3
    The patient has an acute illness, according to symptoms: manic depressive psychosis. Depression from "they thought and shed tears", manic psychosis from the series "bribery and betrayal everywhere." Plus, Putin has not yet said a word personally on this issue. This, too, tears the slate of the attic that has already gone laughing
  • Alexga
    Alexga 5 August 2020 16: 40
    -5
    For those who are particularly concerned and do not read the primary sources:
    August 5, Minsk / Corr. BELTA /. President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko had a telephone conversation with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. BelTA learned this from the press service of the Belarusian leader.

    The heads of state discussed the development of bilateral relations, preparations for the holding of the third Forum of the Regions of Belarus and Ukraine in Grodno this fall. They noted the need to make every effort to ensure that this event yielded significant practical results, served to intensify cooperation.

    Alexander Lukashenko and Volodymyr Zelenskyy also discussed the epidemiological situation in the countries, measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus, and shared their experience in this regard.

    They also talked about strengthening border control at the Belarusian-Ukrainian border and enhancing interaction between border agencies.

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy raised in a conversation the issue of militants detained in Belarus. He informed that they took part in hostilities in Donbass, and the Ukrainian prosecutor's office is investigating these facts. Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement agencies will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine.
    1. Flamberg
      Flamberg 5 August 2020 16: 49
      0
      It's too late .... Luka has been brought out here 100500 times.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 5 August 2020 18: 51
      +1
      Quote: AlexGa
      For those who are particularly concerned and do not read the primary sources:

      You cited the message of Belarus, in the article a quote of what is written on the official website of the President of Ukraine and this is the same source.
      I hope that all suspects of terrorist activity on the territory of Ukraine will be transferred to us for prosecution in accordance with the current international legal documents

      Something like this ...
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 5 August 2020 19: 08
        -2
        The question is about the activities of the Belarusian side, therefore, a more important link from the official source of the Republic of Belarus. And what the southern neighbors think there is somehow not at all interesting to me, they say a lot of things there, and I perceive their president at the level of the 95th quarter. But against the background of all this hysteria, I somehow forgot the story of the extradition of journalist Elena Boyko by Russia to Ukraine in January last year. They gave their ally to their enemy. How do you call it?
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 5 August 2020 20: 26
          0
          Quote: AlexGa
          I somehow forgot the story of the extradition of journalist Elena Boyko by Russia to Ukraine in January last year. They gave their ally to their enemy. How do you call it?

          When she was betrayed, passions were in full swing, including here, someone was for her, someone claimed that she was connected with the special services of Ukraine. What was there specifically ... I do not know, for me it was not worth giving, but arguments were found .... As time passed, passions subsided a little. She was released from the pre-trial detention center on recognizance not to leave. In June, on NTV "Confessions of Prisoner Poroshenko".
          Quote: AlexGa
          What do the southern neighbors think there is somehow not interesting to me at all, they say a lot of things there

          But from the side of the Republic of Belarus, no one denied such a possibility.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 5 August 2020 20: 48
            +1
            She was released from jail on recognizance not to leave

            But one and a half years in jail. For standing up for the truth. And be given out. I remember that Moskalkova's appeals did not help. That was, and what they are trying to think of about Lukashenka has not happened yet, but everyone is sure.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 5 August 2020 21: 38
              0
              Quote: AlexGa
              I remember that Moskalkova's appeals did not help. That was, and what they are trying to think of about Lukashenka has not happened yet, but everyone is sure.

              "nothing has happened yet" what happened is that it went public. Unfortunately, the arguments that at that time outweighed the appeal of Moskalkova are unknown, just as the grounds are unknown, after which the AHL made it public ... "You understand that there are many communication channels between Minsk and Moscow, including through law enforcement agencies . Let's hope that these channels will be sufficient to clarify the situation "- Peskov ... but what happened ... if this is an attempt to bargain with Russia, then there is reason to believe that rates will increase including with the threat of extradition ... if something else ... wait and see, but I'm afraid it will be after the elections ...
  • BAI
    BAI 5 August 2020 16: 41
    -1
    I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 5 August 2020 16: 54
      +5
      Well, in Russia recently, one American was given 8 years for attacking US police officers.
    2. loki565
      loki565 5 August 2020 17: 34
      +3
      I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.

      Well, what would it be ???)))
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 5 August 2020 16: 42
    12
    Some of us will be hysterical again, they say, following Ukraine, Russia is losing Belarus, but I have argued and will continue to argue that it is not Russia that is losing them, it is they who are losing Russia ... to partnerships, well, finally, it's time to finish this fairy tale about the union state ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 5 August 2020 16: 42
    +5
    request
    Quote: NIKNN
    We are friends of peoples

    We actually live in a union state! In the legal concept. And transferring our citizens to third parties (states) is too much! And to such a state with which relations are now bad. To transfer to the enemy! fool
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 August 2020 16: 44
    +3
    Lukashenka has experience of extradition at the request of third countries.

    Blogger Alexander Lapshin was arrested on December 15, 2016 in Minsk. On February 7, he was extradited from Belarus to Azerbaijan, where a criminal case was opened against Lapshin. The blogger was accused of visiting the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh and public speaking in support of separatism. It was on these charges that Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. Lapshin has citizenship of three countries - Russia, Israel and Ukraine. The Foreign Ministries of Israel and Russia spoke out against his extradition, but Minsk did not go to meet them.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 5 August 2020 16: 56
      -1
      I, of course, understand your concern about your compatriot, BUT Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. And the country in which the person was detained through Interpol is obliged to fulfill the requirements of the applicant country. Something like that in international criminal law.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 5 August 2020 17: 09
        +5
        Quote: AlexGa
        I, of course, understand your concern about your compatriot, BUT Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. And the country in which the person was detained through Interpol is obliged to fulfill the requirements of the applicant country. Something like that in international criminal law.

        Ironically, Lapshin is exactly like that my compatriot like your.
        So, they were obliged to detain him, but extradition, on politically motivated cases, is left to the discretion of the detained party. Batsko - did not see it. hi
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 05
          -3
          Oh well. Let's figure it out. Is NKAO a sovereign entity or is it part of Azerbaijan? Part of Azerbaijan, the poet can not talk about politics. Simple criminal case, illegal border crossing. But in this case, Israel and Russia acted on the basis of the logic "should be assumed", This is how you can think in the kitchen. And as for my point of view, it is good that BLOGER was put in the ZU position. You should be responsible for your publications and words. like there in Pushkin: "His example, other science ..."
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 5 August 2020 18: 16
            +6
            It is not that simple.
            The February 2017 extradition of a blogger from Minsk to Baku has caused tension in relations between Armenia and Belarus, and has also become a topic of the foreign policy agenda in Israel and Russia. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia is categorically against the extradition of the blogger to Azerbaijan, as well as against the criminalization of visits by Russians to certain regions of the world. Also, Israel protested in connection with the extradition of Lapshin. As a result, five states were drawn and involved in an international scandal around the blogger.
            Lapshin has filed with the ECHR and now someone else will be put in the SJ position.
            hi
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 27
              -4
              Alexander, I perfectly understand the whole political game, every country should be concerned about its face. The position of Israel and Russia is clear, the position of Azerbaijan is also clear. It’s not even interesting to talk about the Armenians, let them wash. And what should Belarus have done when this blogger appeared on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, when an Interpol warrant was issued against him? This blogger may not have thought that with his trick he would play off five countries, but he did it and the mechanism of international justice started working. The lawsuit in the ECHR against the Republic of Belarus, it's funny, the Republic of Belarus is not a member of the Council of Europe, so all this is empty trouble. I do not see any problems, they will be frightened by sanctions, as the Republic of Belarus has been living under them for a long time, and lives decently enough, at least I and my environment.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 5 August 2020 18: 31
                +1
                Quote: AlexGa
                A claim to the ECHR against the Republic of Belarus,

                The claim is against Azerbaijan, not Belarus.
                https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=45881&lang=2
                hi
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 38
                  -5
                  Lawsuit against Azerbaijan, not RB

                  Moreover, this is generally purple for Aliyev, international law is on his side. Karabakh is Azerbaijan, nobody canceled it. I doubt very much that the claim will be satisfied. There is also Kosovo, which is generally a murky example, but they are somehow cunningly talked about when it comes to recognition by someone. But in Crimea, for some reason, those that recognized Kosovo are modestly silent. Although Ukraine is bombing the ECHR with its claims against Russia.
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 5 August 2020 19: 14
                    +1
                    In fact, you are digging too deep. My post at the beginning only said that Father will extradite these tourists. I assure you, at the request of Ukraine, Interpol will write red cards for these guys without a single objection. It is a pity that they were held hostage to political games. They have practically no rights anyway. And in the event of their death, even their native State will secretly bury them ...
                    1. Alexga
                      Alexga 5 August 2020 19: 28
                      -2
                      May Luka not give anyone away to Ukraine, you don't even need to spend time on this. It is surprising that it is not clear who and where sent this group, or no one talks about it, neither the Russian Federation nor the Republic of Belarus. I think that the FSB group is already working together with the KGB of Belarus, I think the traces of this setup lead to a third country. There, who paid for it all. I don’t want to offend anyone, but there is a question about 29 people that the SBU will talk about. I'm not talking about crimes about which Ukraine is fooling everyone's head. These are their problems. The question is, are there people who lived in Donbass, they came out to defend their land from the current Kiev authorities, and that the war there ended, ended with the victory of Donbass? She is now walking there and people are dying. And then a group of people appeared who left to defend their citizens and their Land, received Russian citizenship and decided to earn cheap money for themselves somewhere in a foreign land. In my opinion, a person for whom defense of the Motherland was a profession for most of his life, the act of these people is quite, to put it mildly, bad. So let's say dithering. Of course, it is impossible to transfer them, but there is no Warrior Honor to them.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 5 August 2020 16: 53
    +4
    The more I watch this whole circus, the more I am convinced that Rygorych has lost his mind, his mind was moved by fear and greed. This is VERY similar to the similar actions of Yanyk-Vegetable in late 2013 - early 2014. And the same bewilderment and disbelief among all normal people: "Well, it can't be! Well, he can't help but understand where this will lead!" In this case, it is doubly strange, because Luka saw the whole process of overthrowing Yanyk and knows well the disastrous outcome. But what is a historical experience for madmen?
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 5 August 2020 18: 17
      -4
      The total will be different. A. G. Lukashenko is not a thief ... and there is nothing to take from him, a goal like a falcon, but Yanukovych, in terms of pouring stolen money into the Russian economy, was a very welcome guest.
  • Naval
    Naval 5 August 2020 16: 53
    +7
    This is some kind of state terrorism. To detain for the fact that you don't indulge in military-style clothes and alcohol, and then give them to the Nazis to be torn apart ... This is something outrageous. Truly "brotherly" relationship.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 56
    +7
    Quote: BAI
    I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.

    On November 4, 1979, a group of young radical Iranian students seized the US embassy with 66 hostages, which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day. This crisis imprinted in the history of America one of the most painful and humiliating pages in the entire existence of this state, and led to the defeat of President Jimmy Carter in the 1980 elections and the victory of Ronald Reagan. laughing
    1. BAI
      BAI 5 August 2020 17: 11
      -5
      which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day

      And what caused us?
  • Narcologist
    Narcologist 5 August 2020 16: 59
    -3
    Well discussed and discussed .. You never know what they are discussing!
    But to decide something, here, alas, with an eye, everyone does what they are told hi
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 17: 20
    +8
    Quote: Sahalinets
    Plays an anti-Russian card. Look, they say, what a fighter I am against Rashka!
    And he is sure that Russia will not go anywhere, will continue to give him everything for free, no matter how much he shits on us. My ex-wife was also sure that I was not going anywhere. And I was very surprised when I became an ex. wink

    No ultimatums needed! It is necessary for Mrs. Popova to notice all kinds of crap in the goods from Belarus laughing
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 August 2020 17: 22
    -2
    Quote: DenZ
    Quote: NIKNN
    It seems to me that yes here we were outplayed

    We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently, but something like that was worth waiting for after Lukashenka's rapprochement with the United States and we saw it pretty quickly

    Do they often outplay Russia lately? Maybe someone swam fat and stopped seeing the real picture of the world?
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 August 2020 17: 23
    0
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: Belomorkanal
    We all say that Lukashenka in this situation behaved like a bullshit.
    Okay, I agree that he is bad, but how good is our country in this situation?
    Let's imagine for a moment that some third-rate country has captured and held, with the prospect of being transferred into the hands of third parties, 33 citizens of the United States or Israel ...

    In response, Russia has already sharply tightened the rules for crossing the Russian-Belarusian border and refused to send observers to the presidential elections in Belarus. What do you propose to send troops, bomb Lukashenka’s residence, or what?

    And what, in Belarus there is no region like Crimea? And then the border crossing was tightened! You indulge in little things.
  • viktor.
    viktor. 5 August 2020 17: 26
    +3
    Yes, that's from whom I did not expect such meanness, and it is from him! He needs to tighten all the nuts so that his people will stick their heads in the ground !!!
  • yfast
    yfast 5 August 2020 17: 27
    -8
    33 Spartans (to put it mildly) missed political information lessons, did not follow the events in the world, did not know about the upcoming elections, had no idea about the difficult relationship between Pu and Lu. Now the country must fight for them to the death. Where is Pu?
  • georggy
    georggy 5 August 2020 17: 41
    0
    Well, here: the gypsies got together with a Jew and decided ................. he leaked, and we are worse.
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 5 August 2020 17: 47
    +3
    The Russian side is also "well done". Until now, he cannot clearly explain where these guys were going. Apparently because the destination cannot be named. Our next puncture. It is clear that this is not Belarus, but they don’t say where. Lukashenka, (I don't want to call him a dad after a lot of ... vector, my dad is completely different) also goes too far. It is useless to play such games with an ally or partner. I can hardly imagine that the Canadians detained 33 US citizens from PMCs and threatened to extradite them to Iran.
  • sanya
    sanya 5 August 2020 17: 51
    +1
    So Russia extradites to Ukraine and Kazakhstan and many other people who fought for Novorossia
    We need to put things in order in Russia first ...
    And you can start with the abolition of quotas for catching seafood for Belarus
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 5 August 2020 18: 05
    +1
    And Rygorych has already packed his suitcase with bulb, bacon and vodka, and bought a ticket to VNA-Ukraine?
    Nude ... wassat hi
  • Conell f
    Conell f 5 August 2020 18: 20
    +1
    INFORMATION for thought: The United States has invested about $ 3 billion in the preparation and conduct of the Maidan in 5 years !!!
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 5 August 2020 19: 30
      +2
      But now whose Crimea?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 18: 22
    +4
    Lukashenka said about the approaching catastrophe of a planetary scale. Lukashenka said about the proximity of the planet to the abyss and the danger of its "explosion" at every moment. “Our planet is gradually but surely sliding towards the abyss. It seems that it is enough to light a simple match and the planet will explode, "said the current President of Belarus ... belay fool
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 5 August 2020 19: 53
    0
    A. Lukashenko meets and negotiates with V. Zelensky. Inside Ukraine V. Zelensky tongue already "Zero" or "Mu-mu". Alexander Grigorievich negotiates with “Zero” about what, what can “Zero” do in response to the “extradition”? Or does Grigorich want to make a "turn to the West"? If the matter is in the extra years of the "presidential term", then 15 years ago the "dad" could have declared himself "the father of Belarusians for life" - no one would have said a word against him ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 20: 02
    +1
    Quietly rustling with slate, the roof is going slowly ... dad, where did you taxi? To Europe? Are you sure that the lace panties will fit the style?
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 5 August 2020 20: 15
    -1
    Lukashenko, in principle, can prove to the Russian Federation that in the CSTO of the Russian Federation, except for the Russian Federation, in principle, no one is needed, without looking back at the ballast, you can live as you want, and not "like people."
  • Assyrian
    Assyrian 5 August 2020 20: 22
    +2
    Lukashenka scooped up from the bottom. yes
  • Dikson
    Dikson 5 August 2020 20: 57
    0
    Something here we all write about some "red lines" that Lukashenka crossed .. In simple terms, Russia can not directly oppose the extradition of our citizens to Ukraine .. The accusation of international terrorism .. is not a joke. The President of Belarus probably does not want his country to fall under the rink of international sanctions regarding "aiding and harboring ... international terrorists" ... and it doesn't matter that Prilepin put on three boxes there, where and who was supposed to go ... like clockwork .. Either quarrel with Russia, or fall under tough world pressure, which the States and Europe will arrange for him .. And since in our country PMCs are, as it were, prohibited .. then the guys will not be dragged out seriously .. - concerns and frustrations about Of course, they have spoken to diplomatic channels and will still be told .. But they will not have a critical effect .. It's sad.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 08
      +4
      I ask you. Changing shoes in the air, not finding the composition of the attack, which, by the way, is not, and letting go to all 4 directions until no official gestures come from Ukraine is a trifling matter. None of the detainees has yet been accused of any international terrorism.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 5 August 2020 21: 16
        0
        I agree with you that one of the loyal solutions would be to simply expel 33 okhlomons from the country with a ban on entry .. In the end, Israel, so unloved by everyone, does just that .. even tougher, they simply may not be allowed into the country without explaining the reasons .We'll see.
    2. Radius
      Radius 5 August 2020 21: 56
      +1
      Why design something? If they are Russian citizens, then they must be extradited to the Russian side. Where and will answer if required. There is no need to invent something ... Justification of swindling is swinish.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 21: 11
    0
    Quote: BAI
    which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day

    And what caused us?

    A mockery of grief liberators laughing The criticism was mainly related to the failure of the Eagle Claw rescue operation on April 24, 1980, when eight US Air Force personnel were killed as a result of technical problems, the target was not achieved, and the situation of the hostages worsened due to the increased suspicion of the Iranian authorities, who began to expect new ones. sabotage by the Americans. After the failure of the operation, the Iranian authorities dispersed the hostages to different cities, some of which were moved 24 times.
  • Kapkan
    Kapkan 5 August 2020 21: 33
    -3
    Fucking traitors, these Belarusians.
    1. cmax
      cmax 5 August 2020 22: 42
      +1
      You shouldn't be so. He bored us so much ........
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 August 2020 03: 26
    +2
    If someone thinks that Lukashenka has become anti-Russian simply because the reins fell under his tail, then I hasten to disappoint. It is he who is quite deliberately trying to earn the sympathy of the population.

    Understanding that Russia has been supporting the country for all these years - in trace quantities, by a few, as a rule, middle managers in industry. Understanding that without Russia the country will turn into a dull shit like Georgia in just a couple of years - and even less. The people still have a belief that they are expected in the EU, and more money will be injected than the Poles. ... Today, after Lukashenka's speech, the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation announced that it would not send observers to the elections in Belarus.

    This, in my opinion, is the most serious on this topic that has been officially announced.
    In practice, this usually means the highest probability of non-recognition of the election results. laughing laughing
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 August 2020 03: 51
    0
    Old Man is preparing his own gallows .. in vain .. to know the example of KADAFFY does not teach anything! it's a pity!
  • Tzar
    Tzar 6 August 2020 04: 37
    +1
    Recently, Luke's tricks have caused only disgust. Falls lower and lower.
  • AX
    AX 6 August 2020 05: 04
    +1
    Rumor has it that a polar fox has come to visit Kolenka's dad.)))