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Zelensky and Lukashenka discuss extradition of Russians detained in Minsk

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Zelensky and Lukashenka discuss extradition of Russians detained in Minsk

The Presidents of Belarus and Ukraine Alexander Lukashenko and Vladimir Zelensky discussed the issue of extradition of Russians detained in Belarus, the discussion took place during a telephone conversation. This is reported by the office of the Ukrainian president.


The report says that the leaders of Ukraine and Belarus "discussed in detail" issues related to the detention of persons from Wagner's private military company on Belarusian territory. The parties noted the importance of "effective interaction" of the competent authorities of the two countries and the transfer of persons "suspected of terrorist activities" to Ukraine.

At the same time, it is emphasized that Zelensky is convinced that the detainees will not be able to "avoid just punishment."

I hope that all suspects of terrorist activity on the territory of Ukraine will be transferred to us for prosecution in accordance with the current international legal documents

- declared Zelensky.

In turn, Lukashenko, in a conversation with Zelensky, said that upon the fact of the detained Russians, Minsk would cooperate within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine.

Zelensky touched upon (...) the issue of militants detained in Belarus. (...) they took part in the hostilities in Donbass and the Ukrainian prosecutor's office is investigating these facts. Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine

- BelTA writes.

Let us remind you that earlier the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine announced that it would demand from Minsk the extradition of 28 "terrorists" out of 33 Russians detained in Belarus.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 5 August 2020 16: 01 New
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    Bah ...
    What a sweet couple.
    Clear.
    Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
    Saakashvili's example is contagious.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 5 August 2020 16: 14 New
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      Well, at least the fate of the Kuril Islands was not discussed, and that's good. smile
      Rather, August 9 has already passed. Tired of watching this circus in Belarus.
      An unpleasant feeling when the authorities do stupid things, but you are ashamed.
      1. Rostislav
        Rostislav 5 August 2020 16: 26 New
        61
        Well, I wouldn't do stupidity, meanness.
        How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 33 New
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          Quote: Rostislav
          How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?

          We are friends with peoples, not leaders. Clever has a normal attitude, stupid and does not need friends.
          1. krot
            krot 5 August 2020 18: 06 New
            +6
            I hope my dad is not moved by his mind, and everything will pass after the presidential elections. And our guys will come back to us.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 5 August 2020 19: 42 New
              +6
              Quote: krot
              I hope the dad is not moved by his mind,

              And in vain ...
            2. major147
              major147 5 August 2020 20: 44 New
              18
              Quote: krot
              I hope my dad is not moved by his mind, and everything will pass after the presidential elections. And our guys will come back to us.

              In the meantime lol
              A group of 97 Belarusian militants detained near Khabarovsk
              At 5 am local time, an organized group of Belarusian citizens was detained by the FSB in a sanatorium near Khabarovsk. A day earlier, some of them were seen at the processions in support of the ex-governor of the Khabarovsk Territory Sergei Furgal. request

              The FSB received information about 97 Belarusians who arrived in Khabarovsk from Belarus on August 4, the day after a major opposition rally in Minsk. The special services carried out an operation to detain a criminal group. Belarusians are suspected of organizing provocations at mass rallies. During a search, they found: a book with recipes for potato pancakes, a linen T-shirt with the words "I / We Furgal", US $ 9700 and an unknown amount of Chinese yuan and North Korean won. recourse

              “The behavior of these persons immediately aroused suspicion: they were always smiling, they were friendly, the rooms were cleaned, they behaved calmly, and in the evening they listened to the speech of some husky guy. We were also surprised by their diet: they even asked for mashed potatoes or boiled potatoes for breakfast! We heard on TV that Belarus could become a hostile country for us, that's why we called the FSB, ”said the workers of the sanatorium. No.

              President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko called this detention a "knife in the back" of the brotherly country and added that he had already sent a demand to the Foreign Ministry to immediately hand over the detainees to Belarus.
              belay
              1. Thrifty
                Thrifty 5 August 2020 21: 15 New
                14
                Major 147 hi -you should manage the humor column on the site! good good
                1. major147
                  major147 5 August 2020 21: 46 New
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                  Quote: Thrifty
                  Major 147 hi -you should manage the humor column on the site! good good

                  Не буду примерять на себя чужие лавры, текст не мой. Просто поделился "злободневным".
                  And for the humor on the VO website I have 2 warnings repeat
              2. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 6 August 2020 08: 33 New
                0
                Журнал ,,Мурзилка" ? В,,Веселых картинках" есть еще и разукрашка...
            3. Sergey39
              Sergey39 5 August 2020 21: 37 New
              +5
              Quote: krot
              I hope the dad is not moved by his mind,

              But all the signs are there.
        2. Vend
          Vend 5 August 2020 17: 32 New
          10
          Quote: Rostislav
          Well, I wouldn't do stupidity, meanness.
          How then can friends from Russia look in the eyes?

          And also, as always, I will look with calf eyes and wonder, what have we done? We are brothers laughing
        3. va3610
          va3610 5 August 2020 21: 43 New
          +3
          And he decided to sell
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 28 New
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        Quote: Thrall
        here in Belarus.
        Feeling unpleasant when authorities do stupid things

        In Ukraine, six years ago, this did not prevent anyone from committing an armed coup. The people in such cases, no one asks. Coups are made not by the people, but by the entourage (president, tsar, emperor, etc.), and first of all, from the special services. How is Lukashenka's entourage there? Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.
        1. Vend
          Vend 5 August 2020 17: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: orionvitt
          Quote: Thrall
          here in Belarus.
          Feeling unpleasant when authorities do stupid things

          In Ukraine, six years ago, this did not prevent anyone from committing an armed coup. The people in such cases, no one asks. Coups are made not by the people, but by the entourage (president, tsar, emperor, etc.), and first of all, from the special services. How is Lukashenka's entourage there? Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.

          In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 40 New
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            In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

            But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.
            1. Vend
              Vend 5 August 2020 17: 46 New
              -4
              Quote: alexmach
              In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

              But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.

              Yes, that's not necessary, the oligarch will not invest in one and will not pull. so much money in the Maidan, only a country with a large budget. for example the USA. Calculate how much you need to spend, for the sake of interest, people at protests, pay for every day, militants, and after all, everyone also needs to eat every day, feed them three times a day, provide a roof over their heads, weapons, etc. And this is not 100 people , but thousands, if not millions))
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 5 August 2020 18: 07 New
                +6
                Yes, that's not necessary, the oligarch will not invest in one and will not pull. so much money in the Maidan, only a country with a large budget.

                Я вас прошу, что за басни? Какие там вложения в майдан то? В пару сотен провакаторов что бы дрались с беркутом, да в пару "независимых СМИ", да немного милиции что бы делали что надо. Повторюсь ещё раз ничего из этого сделать без поддержки больших людей изнутри сделать было невозможно.
                Calculate how much you need to spend, for the sake of interest, to people at protests, pay for each day, to militants

                This is a penny.
                but everyone also needs to eat every day, feed them three times a day,

                This is also not a lot, in addition, the compassionate population has moved in. The Maidan enjoyed widespread popular support.
                provide a roof over your head

                They provided for themselves, including the capture of buildings.
                weapons, etc.

                Weapon? This is a dozen rifles or what? Or are you talking about thousands of plywood shields and motorcycle helmets? This is the problem, I can't argue here.
                And this is not 100 people, but thousands, if not millions))

                Вы смеётесь что ли, какие миллионы? Там было пару сотен проплаченных боевиков-провокаторов. Те что дрались с милицией все эти месяцы. Вот эти были и хорошо оплачены и на полном обеспечении, и было их всего ничего. Ещё было сколько-то проплаченной массовки. Ну и остальное все "полезные дурачки" ака народное движение. Добровльцы. Ну да был какой-то там подвоз активистов из регионов, была какая-то работа со всякими поддерживавшими их организациями. Но это все мелочь. Мелкая мелочь.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2020 20: 09 New
                  +3
                  Quote: alexmach

                  Я вас прошу, что за басни? Какие там вложения в майдан то? В пару сотен провакаторов что бы дрались с беркутом, да в пару "независимых СМИ", да немного милиции что бы делали что надо. Повторюсь ещё раз ничего из этого сделать без поддержки больших людей изнутри сделать было невозможно.

                  Do you think so or have you been taught to speak so? The fact that not a single Maidan can do without domestic interests in the highest echelons of power is - yes. Everything else you said is utter nonsense.
                  1. Майдан на Украине начал готовится с окончания "памаранчевого" майдана, а это 2005 г.
                  2. Для этого, начиная с 2005 г. начали в лагерях на территории Польши, Литвы и. поначалу, пока бацька не прогнал, Белоруссии. готовить "боевиков". Их обучали методам противодействия милиции и др. действиям. В эти лагеря направлялась молодежь со всех городов Украины.
                  Does this require funds?
                  Именно эти, подготовленные в этих лагерях "боевики", возглавили пятерки, десятки и сотни майдановцев. Именно они поддерживали дисциплину в своих пятерках, десятках и сотнях и именно они выплачивали суточные каждому из своих подчиненных.
                  Does this require funds?
                  You write that the compassionate inhabitants supplied the Maydanuts with food. Yeah, supplied. Canned tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, all sorts of salads. Will you last long on this? Believe me, the people of Kiev did not carry fat, meat, sausage to the Maidan.
                  So, funds were needed to feed the Maidan.
                  Матрасники сами признали, что на "поддержание демократии на Украине" они затратили 5 лярдов зелени. А Вы говорите - копейки.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 44 New
                    +4
                    Everything else you said is utter nonsense.

                    Of course, utter nonsense, you know better from Krasnoyarsk via the Internet than me, who lived in Ukraine at that time.
                    1. Майдан на Украине начал готовится с окончания "памаранчевого" майдана, а это 2005 г.

                    Nonsense. Nobody cooked it in 2005. In 2005, the winners were busy dividing up power and resources that fell on them, and this was what the entire Yushchenko presidency was doing. Yes, some processes were launched then, some even deliberately, but then there could be no talk of a second Maidan.
                    Для этого, начиная с 2005 г. начали в лагерях на территории Польши, Литвы и. поначалу, пока бацька не прогнал, Белоруссии. готовить "боевиков". Их обучали методам противодействия милиции и др. действиям. В эти лагеря направлялась молодежь со всех городов Украины.

                    Yeah ... especially from Donetsk, Lugansk, Simferopol, Kharkov. Nonsense. There were always some camps in the Carpathians, I talked with a person who claimed that they were training volunteers for the Chechen war, he was most likely involved in tourist training. Or maybe he just lied. In addition, there are many all sorts of children's and youthful terry patriotic societies working with schoolchildren. But what would the militants have been preparing since 2005, you were joking. For so many years of continuous training, it was possible to put together an entire army. The militants on the Maidan were nothing at all, they were recruited from football hooligans (always the fiefdom of the special services) and all kinds of nationalist groups.
                    and hundreds, and it was they who paid the per diem to each of their subordinates.

                    Да не было никаких суточных у каждого из подчиненных. Сотни там формировали в основном "полезные дурачки". Профессиональных заводил там было всего-ничего то.
                    You write that the compassionate inhabitants supplied the Maydanuts with food. Yeah, supplied. Canned tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, all sorts of salads. Will you last long on this?

                    What are you talking about. Field kitchens worked there, they cooked all kinds of porridge, stews, sandwiches and hot teas. Money for this (to help the self-defense of the Maidan) was collected from private individuals, including, for example, at my then work. I lived in the city of Lvov there, in my young and wealthy environment, almost everyone donated. Collected a lot. You need a lot of money to provide porridge for a thousand or two people for a week? Count for yourself. There they fed only those who lived there, spent the night.
                    Матрасники сами признали, что на "поддержание демократии на Украине" они затратили 5 лярдов зелени

                    For how many years and for what exactly? First of all, all non-profit organizations. There was also an Internet TV channel that got into the air right at the beginning of the Maidan.
                    1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
                      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 21: 00 New
                      +1
                      You will go far ... Until they stop you.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 01 New
                        0
                        And all the best to you.
                      2. Vend
                        Vend 6 August 2020 10: 35 New
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                        Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
                        You will go far ... Until they stop you.

                        No, it will come))) of such martyrs they make)))) if he is not on the payroll)))
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2020 21: 46 New
                      -3
                      Quote: alexmach

                      Of course, utter nonsense, you know better from Krasnoyarsk via the Internet than me, who lived in Ukraine at that time.

                      Alexander, you can be in the kitchen all day and stay hungry, or you can be in the restaurant locker room all day and be full. It all depends on the individual characteristics of the person.
                      Quote: alexmach

                      Nonsense. Nobody cooked it in 2005. In 2005, the winners were busy dividing the power and the resources that fell on them,

                      For Western intelligence services, the orange Maidan was a failure - they failed to ignite a civil war. And they, having studied their mistakes, immediately began to prepare the next Maidan. And they prepared it for 2013.
                      The change of power was not enough for them. They needed a civil conflict with access to Russia. And they succeeded in 2014. These things don't happen by accident. Very competent people who are always in the shadows have been working on this for a long time. All who are on the surface are puppets, executors of the plan. Could you, from a heterogeneous crowd, put together a detachment capable of seizing power in Lviv and weapons in the military unit and the GUVD? Not! I'm sure! But in Lviv and all other cities there were (?) People who were able to do this without a hitch. Accident? Or maybe a long preparation?
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Yeah ... especially from Donetsk, Lugansk, Simferopol, Kharkov.

                      Да, представьте себе. А нацбатальоны "Донбасс" "Азов" и другие из львовян и ивано-франковцев сформированы?
                      Quote: alexmach
                      put together. The militants on the Maidan were nothing at all, they were recruited from football hooligans (always the fiefdom of the special services) and all sorts of nationalist groups.

                      It is immediately clear that you have never been involved in organizing protest movements. And you have no idea how and what is done there. It seems to you - people left and everything went by itself. Naive.
                      Quote: alexmach

                      For how many years and for what exactly?

                      Yes, it took them almost 10 years to turn fraternal Ukraine into an anti-Russian Ukraine. And their plan succeeded.
                      Just do not make anyone laugh, saying that it all happened by itself. People gathered themselves and did everything themselves.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 5 August 2020 23: 48 New
                        +2
                        For Western intelligence services, the orange Maidan was a failure - they failed to ignite a civil war.

                        Nobody tried to kindle it then. They did not set such goals. This is evidenced by at least its peaceful course and the practically absence of forceful confrontation and any provocations.
                        I will tell you more - the war after the second Maidan, and even on such a scale, came as a surprise to many, although they undoubtedly expected the continuation of the confrontation.
                        And he was 100% successful - all the goals were achieved.
                        Could you, from a heterogeneous crowd, put together a detachment capable of seizing power in Lviv and weapons in the military unit and the GUVD? Not!

                        Да это вероятно были подготовленные акции. Но тут стоит сказать и о том в каком состоянии находились милиция и ВВ к концу этого майдана. Они уже давно были ограничено дееспособными. При этом большое количество оружия попало в случайные руки. Очевидцы сообщают что пацаны бегали по улицам с оружием. Потом их понемногу по разоружали "старшие".
                        But in Lviv and all other cities there were

                        What other cities like that? I only know about the case in Lvov.
                        Да, представьте себе. А нацбатальоны "Донбасс" "Азов" и другие из львовян и ивано-франковцев сформированы?

                        And they were formed very much later than the Maidan.
                        It is immediately clear that you have never been involved in organizing protest movements. And you have no idea how and what is done there. It seems to you - people left and everything went by itself. Naive.

                        Did you do it? Have you decided to share your experience?
                        А где это я сказал что никто не занимался организацией? Где я сказал что "люди вышли и все пошло?". Но если вы думаете, что миллион (как считали отдельная ситория) участников акций протеста в принципе может быть организован и проплачен то это Вы само выражение наивности, в которой меня пытаетесь уличить. Майдан имел очень широкую поддержку населения, как минимум на западе Украины, но также и в центре. Большинство участников, в том числе и "самооборонцев", в том числе и, я уверен, все погибшие в противостоянии были "добровольцами" (проплаченные боевики и провокаторы как правило исчезали когда становилось опасно).
                        Yes, it took them almost 10 years to turn fraternal Ukraine into an anti-Russian Ukraine. And their plan succeeded.

                        This was not done for 10 years, it was done from the very beginning of Ukrainian independence, because this is the objective interest of the ruling elites, as in Belarus, by the way. For your information, Russia also took part in this and did it quite clumsily.
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 10: 19 New
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                        Quote: alexmach
                        Nobody tried to kindle it then.

                        А Вы послушайте одного из руководителей "оранжевого майдана" - Червоненко. Много интересного узнаете.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        I will tell you more - the war after the second Maidan, and even on such a scale, was a surprise for many, even though they

                        For people like you, yes. And for those who prepared it, that was the goal.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        But here it is worth mentioning the state of the police and the Interior Ministry by the end of this Maidan. They have long been limited in capacity. At the same time, a large number of weapons

                        Вы упорно "ставите лошадь позади телеги". Это стало следствием массированных требований Запада и США к Януковичу о неприменении силы против майдаунов.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What other cities like that? I only know about the case in Lvov.

                        Well, then why are you clever here if you don't know anything?
                        Quote: alexmach
                        And they were formed very much later than the Maidan.

                        The question was not - when (?), But - from whom? No need to play around.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Did you do it?

                        Imagine.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Have you decided to share your experience?

                        You don't need it.
                        Quote: alexmach

                        This was not done for 10 years, it was done from the very beginning of Ukrainian independence, because this is the objective interest of the ruling elites, as in Belarus, by the way. For your information, Russia also took part in this and did it quite clumsily.

                        Да. Но есть "пассивная фаза" и есть "активная фаза"
                      3. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 10: 48 New
                        +1
                        А Вы послушайте одного из руководителей "оранжевого майдана" - Червоненко. Много интересного узнаете.

                        I listened, I did not recognize anything confirming your words. And by the way, after the second Maidan, he also spoke very moderately and deliberately.
                        For people like you, yes. And for those who prepared it, that was the goal.

                        This was not the goal, otherwise they would not have sat for the first month in complete suspended animation and unconsciousness. They would be ready and not gathering strength for 2 months.
                        Вы упорно "ставите лошадь позади телеги". Это стало следствием массированных требований Запада и США к Януковичу о неприменении силы против майдаунов

                        You put the horse in front of the cart. The consequence of the demands was the complete inaction of Yanukovych and Co. The state of the law-enforcers stemmed mainly from the moods of a split society.
                        Well, then why are you clever here if you don't know anything?

                        Do you know a lot? It doesn't look like it at all. I asked a simple question: in what other cities, I don’t see the answer, instead I see a transition to personalities. I lived in Lviv and I was primarily interested in my surroundings and I admit that I could have missed something, but as far as I remember it happened only in Lviv. Do not agree? Give the facts. In what other cities during the Maidan were police stations or military units seized, and where else were weapons stolen from them? You can not? Stop pouring from empty to empty!
                        The question was not - when (?), But - from whom? No need to play around.

                        Which is what I wish for you. You, like a real troll, avoid answering the questions asked. I do not know from whom specifically they were formed. The payroll is not available to me, as well as to you. I, like you, can only operate on assumptions. My assumptions - that of all the rabble. If they had been prepared for years, they would have been on the front line and not engaged in PR-th and looting. In fact, the only combat-ready units in the first phase of the war were the professional military. Disantura, Marine Corps, militia special forces that held the same airports. All informal associations acted either as cannon fodder, whipping boys, or marauder punishers.
                        Imagine.

                        It's hard to believe.
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 11: 40 New
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                        Quote: alexmach
                        I listened, I did not recognize anything confirming your words.

                        Плохо слушали. "Нам с трудом удалось избежать кровопролития, а такие "предложения" были".
                        Quote: alexmach

                        This was not the goal, otherwise they would not have sat for the first month in complete suspended animation and unconsciousness. They would be ready and not gathering strength for 2 months.

                        Это Вы о ком? О марионетках? Или о кукловодах? А что Вы знаете о последних? - Ничего! Так как же Вы можете говорить, что они "месяц сидели в анабиозе"? Не надувайте щеки.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        The state of law enforcers stemmed mainly from the moods of a split society.

                        Так может говорить только человек, который не понимает смысла слова - приказ. Именно этим словом определяется "состояние правоохранителей". Они ненавидят Януковича именно из-за его приказа - не применять силу. Их избивали, сжигали, отстреливали, но они не имели права ответить.
                        А если бы они получили приказ, то, не смотря на "расколотое общество", они очистили бы майдан в течении часа.
                        Listen, that's enough bullshit already.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        You are here to avoid the answers to the questions asked as a real troll.

                        Have you asked me at least one question?
                        Quote: alexmach
                        It's hard to believe.

                        Your right.
                      5. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 11: 50 New
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                        Плохо слушали. "Нам с трудом удалось избежать кровопролития, а такие "предложения" были".

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?
                        Это Вы о ком? О марионетках? Или о кукловодах? А что Вы знаете о последних? - Ничего! Так как же Вы можете говорить, что они "месяц сидели в анабиозе"? Не надувайте щеки.

                        "кукловодов" вы тоже сильно переоцениваете. Была запись телефонного разговора Псаки с послом в Киеве сразу после майдана. Готовились они к тому же самому дележу власти, что и после первого майдана. ЗЫ: Вам бы тоже сдуться не мешало, интернет-знаток вы наш. Я прекращу это общение, если Вы не способны вести дискуссию хоть сколько нибудь вежливо.
                        Only a person who does not understand the meaning of the word can speak like this - an order

                        La-la poplar. Law enforcers are also people, they are also part of society. They are influenced by the processes taking place in society.
                        They were beaten, burned, shot, but they had no right to answer.

                        This is not entirely true, and it was not at all true.
                        Listen, that's enough bullshit already.

                        Enough, it hurts. You jumped from the events in Lviv to the Maidan. Did not notice?
                        Have you asked me at least one question?

                        And twice. The same. According to what you wrote. Simple in terms of verifiable facts. You ignored it twice and went personal instead of answering. This conversation can be ended. You are our expert.
                      6. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 13: 01 New
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?

                        Try to comprehend what you said.
                        It is difficult to talk to a person who does not even understand what he is talking about.
                      7. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 13: 57 New
                        0
                        Talking to you from the day I heard
                        1.conjectures, conjectures and conjectures
                        2. Lots of personal attacks, nothing else.
                      8. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2020 17: 14 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Quote: alexmach

                        What are you? And what does it say, about the fact that bloodshed was being prepared or about the fact that they did try to avoid it?

                        Why try to avoid something that has not been prepared?
                        And if you tried to avoid it, then you knew that it was being prepared?
                        You really figure it out in your brains, otherwise mutually exclusive concepts coexist peacefully there.
                      9. alexmach
                        alexmach 6 August 2020 21: 39 New
                        0
                        Why try to avoid something that has not been prepared?

                        And can events happen at all that were not prepared in advance, in your opinion?
                        Could the bloodshed itself have happened during mass meetings of thousands of people and a month-long confrontation? Without preliminary preparation by anyone?
                        And if you tried to avoid it, then you knew that it was being prepared?

                        No, it doesn't. Be friends with logic at least a little. Protest actions of many thousands are an environment in which bloodshed can easily happen by itself.
                        You really figure it out in your brains, otherwise mutually exclusive concepts coexist peacefully there.

                        They are not mutually exclusive. Understand first yourself with the concepts you are operating.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 58 New
    -3
    From Crimea by regular flights - a trifle? Well - well ... Rose-colored glasses are cheap, however, but thank God, they are not in fashion ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 02 New
      +4
      From Crimea by regular flights - a trifle?

      What are you writing about? Cometary don't read the answer, write?
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 56 New
    +1
    Господи-секрет полишинеля... Оплачено Евросоюзом, выдрессированы в Прибалтике и Польше в спец. лагерях... А спичку кинуть всегда уйма полезных идиотов из рабоче-крестьянской и "интеллигентской" среды найдется.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 17: 55 New
    0
    Quote: alexmach
    In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

    But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside. An example is Ukraine. There, behind both revolutions, there were oligarchic showdowns.

    And who promised and promises support and gave clear promises to these oligarchs and serious interested parties ... Who is giving them cookies? These faces themselves will be cowardly, without support from outside ... Without cookies and guarantees .. Weak in the knees ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 48 New
      +1
      And who promised and promises support and gave out intelligible promises to these oligarchs and serious stakeholders

      Э.м.. а Вы не видели что ли? "Весь цивилизованный мир", прямо в прямом эфире и на уровне офицальных заявлений. Фрау Меркель к примеру.
      These faces themselves will be cowardly, without support from outside ... Without cookies and guarantees .. Weak in the knees ...

      Come on cowardly. Yulia Vladimirovna has been to prison 2 times. Senya Yayyenyuk probably stood for a month before that with an indefinite Maidan, and they had crazy rhetoric in the last few years in a row, only Senya was not needed by anyone, either with Julia or without her, he was rumored to be with hangers-on when everything went bang with the main thing Maidan drove others.
  • venik
    venik 5 August 2020 20: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: alexmach
    But it's not true, no emissary can organize a coup without the presence of serious persons interested in it inside.

    ------
    Quote: Wend
    In the modern world, the coup is made not by the circle of leaders, but by Western emissaries.

    =========
    Ребята! Кончайте ругаться! Дело в том, что Вы оба ПРАВЫ. Да без серьезных "вливаний" из-за "бугра" - ничего не получится олигархи просто не смогут договориться между собой! С другой стороны - "из-за бугра" не так хорошо видно: КАК эти финансовые потоки правильнее распределить внутри страны. А у олигархов - и СМИ "прикормлены" (те, которые им не принадлежат), и чиновники (в.т.ч. и от силовых ведомств) на "финансовом подсосе" и связи необходимые имеются. Да и ситуацию они понимают ЛУЧШЕ, поскольку видят ее "изнутри"......
    Вот, когда эти две силы (внутренние олигархи и внешние спонсоры) находят общий язык..... Вот тогда и возникает "цветно-революционная ситуация".
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 04 New
      +2
      oligarchs simply will not be able to agree among themselves!

      Why won't they be able to, if there are common interests?
      Another thing is that, yes, a signal from behind a hillock was still needed. And she did appear more than once and directly on the air and in official statements.
      1. venik
        venik 6 August 2020 10: 04 New
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        Why won't they be able to, if there are common interests?

        ========
        Because they have - NO common interests - only - PERSONAL! Sometimes they overlap, even partially совпадают..... Но гораздо чаще (точнее почти всегда) - находятся в "противофазе"! Особенно, когда начинают "делить шкуру еще не убитого медведя" - то О-о-о-о! Тут все напоминают стаю шакалов у трупа осла! Только "пряник и дубинка" из-за "бугра" (точнее "океана") - и может выступить консолидирующим фактором! И как показывает опыт той же Украины - прекрасно и выступает!
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 6 August 2020 10: 50 New
          0
          Because they have - NO common interests - only - PERSONAL!

          There were, they had common interests. Yanukovych managed to cross the road to everyone and become a threat to everyone. Even for his former patron Akhmetov.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 45 New
    +9
    Quote: Wend
    and Western emissaries.

    Западные эмиссары, только инспирируют "заговоры". Но им просто необходимо опираться на предателей, среди высшего звена власти, которые и являются движущей силой переворотов. Хрестоматийный пример, это украина. Подавляющее большинство высших чиновников при Януковиче, приняв самое активное участие и поддержав майдан, сохранили и даже улучшили свои "позиции" при "новой власти". Сколько хапнули на этом денёг, вообще молчу. Смотришь на список этих "революционеров" и понимаешь, что кто был, тот и остался. Все эти имена "на слуху", уже лет двадцать.
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 01: 59 New
    0
    Quote: orionvitt
    Something tells me that not very much. The most interesting thing will be after the 9th.

    Plans and instructions are already being announced:

    And the cookies at the freshly baked state embassy are ready.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 5 August 2020 18: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    It would rather be August 9

    Everything has been decided long ago. And the rating, and for-and-against ... We in Russia went through this even during the EBN-e. The Belarusian electoral committee, I think, has prepared the same for a long time.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 20: 51 New
    +1
    This is not stupidity. This is mistake. And it seems fatal.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 26 New
    10
    Теперь точно можно сказать, что весь этот фарс срежессирован явно спецслужбами сша и нато, что лукашенко не просто пошел в разнос, а а-ля янук-овощь поверил сказкам о том что "заграница ему поможет "!Вот вам и весь рупь мелочью! Теперь своё веское слово обязан сказать кремль, но вряд-ли мы его услышим! То есть, майдан по белорусски руками западных спецслужб неизбежен, просто" вопрос в цене" -все будет сейчас в жесткой форме, или через некоторое время после выборов самого себя, лукашенко вдруг "внезапно заболеет" , и к власти придет марионетка от сшы.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now the Kremlin is obliged to say its weighty word, but we are unlikely to hear it!

      I really hope that you are wrong. It seems to me that yes, here we have been outplayed and now there is simply not enough time to prepare the necessary steps. It would be sad if this is not the case (in the sense of the steps will not be correct).
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 5 August 2020 16: 38 New
        15
        Quote: NIKNN
        It seems to me that yes here we were outplayed

        We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently, but something like that was worth waiting for after Lukashenka's rapprochement with the United States and we saw it pretty quickly
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 5 August 2020 16: 41 New
          0
          Well, how we outplayed, I put it so figuratively, we did not expect this move, let's say we were not ready, in this sense we outplayed, or overslept, it will be closer. Somehow it turned out that Ukraine reacted faster than we did, so they were ready.
          1. Kushka
            Kushka 5 August 2020 17: 07 New
            +7
            I have already noted once - the girl rode around Kiev, and Pompeo himself (!),
            Госсек, на минуточку! А мы "не ожидали". А что, нужно было чтоб Сенат США
            held an off-site meeting in Minsk ?!
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 44 New
            +4
            We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently

            In the situation with the arrested, they have not yet outplayed, this situation has not yet ended.
            And in the situation with Belarus as a whole, they outplayed in 91, and since then everything has been difficult, now a little the scales seem to be going in their direction too, but nothing has really been decided yet.
    2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
      The Little Humpbacked Horse 5 August 2020 16: 32 New
      17
      Quote: Thrifty
      that all this farce was clearly orchestrated by the special services of the United States and NATO


      What kind of special services, why special services, it is finally Lukashenka who showed his true face, and then everything is dad and dad
      1. Simon
        Simon 5 August 2020 17: 12 New
        +4
        Это говорит о том, что даже "союзникам" верить нельзя! request
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 5 August 2020 17: 29 New
          -3
          Возможно, говорить о "союзниках" России во множественном числе не стоило бы?
          If Belarus, the only ally of the Russian Federation so far, is not already an ally in the opinion of some patriots, then what other allies can we talk about?
          Mentioning Venezuela and Zimbabwe from Nicaragua is somehow not comme il faut, but the partners in the BRICS, SCO, EAEU, APEC are still allies. Everyone pulls the blanket in his direction.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 5 August 2020 18: 08 New
            +7
            Returning to the original, Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy. Alas, no other is given, the rest are freeloaders and traitors.
    3. BAI
      BAI 5 August 2020 16: 43 New
      -1
      all this farce is clearly directed by the special services of the usa and nato

      They sent the Russians to Belarus?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 46 New
        +1
        BAI-это они пообещали лукашенко "райские кущи " , коли он Россию "макнет " в нечто мягкое, но дурно пахнущее! А эти 33 задержанных и были как нельзя кстати для антиРоссийского выпода "по заказу хозяина "!
      2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
        The Little Humpbacked Horse 5 August 2020 16: 58 New
        11
        Quote: BAI
        They sent the Russians to Belarus?


        Not in the Republic of Belarus, but through the Republic of Belarus, Lukashenko, unlike us, did not close the borders because of the coronavirus, so everyone mainly flew through the Republic of Belarus
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 15 New
        0
        Quote: BAI
        They sent the Russians to Belarus?

        Not directly. They could well have found the Russians who sent the Russians.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 5 August 2020 17: 39 New
    +3
    What a sweet couple.
    Ага прям "твикс" в одной упаковке, получается состав один и тот-же.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 18: 34 New
    +6
    Quote: Livonetc
    Bah ...
    What a sweet couple.
    Clear.
    Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
    Saakashvili's example is contagious.

    You can say The moment of truth has come ... Who is a friend, who is an enemy, who is like that ... The true face will be revealed to the citizens of Russia. not powdered by the media and not embellished with verbal husks ... The face of Russia's only ally. He will give our guys over to Svido ukram, which means he was lying all the time, pretending ...
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 5 August 2020 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: 30 vis
      Quote: Livonetc
      Bah ...
      What a sweet couple.
      Clear.
      Old Man skis not in Rostov perked up, but let's say in Zhitomir.
      Saakashvili's example is contagious.

      You can say The moment of truth has come ... Who is a friend, who is an enemy, who is like that ... The true face will be revealed to the citizens of Russia. not powdered by the media and not embellished with verbal husks ... The face of Russia's only ally. He will give our guys over to Svido ukram, which means he was lying all the time, pretending ...

      If he surrenders, must be pursued without a statute of limitations.
      Gingerbread is good, correct and tasty.
      But the whip should always be right and close at hand.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Livonetc
        If he surrenders, ...

        It is difficult to pass: those with dual citizenship should be sent to two countries at the same time.
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 5 August 2020 21: 09 New
    -5
    It looks like the United States will take under the patronage of Belarus and Putin will receive a penndil and a retirement onion
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 5 August 2020 21: 17 New
      +3
      Only Israel is under the auspices of the US.
      The rest is not covered, in terms of - they have the most tonsils.
      And what is happening has nothing to do with Putin.
      If Belarus goes downhill, repeating the mistakes of the ruins, then this is the misfortune of the inhabitants of Belarus.
      We are afraid for them.
      But Russia will no longer get into this cesspool.
      Got drunk on full crap.
  • jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 7 August 2020 11: 44 New
    0
    And in Zhitomir, what's not to get?))
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 5 August 2020 16: 05 New
    13
    Lukashenka, of course, has gone crazy, but I think he will not issue an extradition.

    Although where he and what will knock is an open question ...
    1. Rusik.S
      Rusik.S 5 August 2020 16: 09 New
      +5
      And what will stop him from giving them out?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 August 2020 16: 58 New
        0
        Rusk. S-I'm afraid that the next news will be about the transfer of these 28 of our citizens for reprisal to the Ukrainian regime. ..
        1. Rusik.S
          Rusik.S 5 August 2020 19: 48 New
          +1
          Wait and see.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 5 August 2020 17: 45 New
        +3
        A sense of self-preservation?
        1. Rusik.S
          Rusik.S 5 August 2020 19: 49 New
          0
          I doubt there will be an answer
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 5 August 2020 20: 50 New
            +1
            In the sense of doubt? They say there is already a queue at the border that has grown up. And Lukashenka, by and large, has not done anything yet, only made some noise.
    2. cniza
      cniza 5 August 2020 16: 10 New
      17
      There is no longer any certainty, he just looks like a poorly sane ...
      1. Igor Gul
        Igor Gul 5 August 2020 17: 45 New
        +2
        Rather, a frightened, confused one.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 August 2020 17: 51 New
          +4
          Everything is there together and hysteria is close ...
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 5 August 2020 22: 36 New
        +5
        Vit, and I have a different question - where is the "mighty bunch" of VO commentators (Stasiks, Svarogs, Lexus, Malyuta, Sylvester under the leadership of a Napoleon), who had an anuresis for Batka being right? They are silent as if they were left somewhere. For Lukashenko - I will answer with the words of Putin for Yanukovych - this is a Traitor! And who praises him too. Now let the rat pups minus.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 August 2020 09: 03 New
          +1
          hi
          Такие темы они стараются не посещать , "кисло" им от них ..., а потеме есть такая версия:

          A participant in the armed conflict in Donbass, who wished to remain anonymous, spoke about the events associated with the detention of 33 Russians in Belarus. In a conversation with a journalist from the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper, he described the whole scheme of what had happened.

          According to the source, he was supposed to be the 34th detainee. He stressed that the so-called private military company (PMC) Wagner, to which the Belarusian authorities attribute the detainees, has nothing to do with the situation.

          The man said that the job offer was received at the beginning of May, and later the price, contract terms and logistics were discussed: "It was an offer from representatives of the customer company - a large company." He noted that already at that time doubts began to creep in at him for many reasons.

          When asked about the people who hired the fighters, the source said that "no one saw them." However, he confirmed that he continues to contact several intermediaries at the moment. “[They] pretend to be shocked too. It is clear that in such a situation, everyone is trying to save their own skin, ”said the source of the newspaper, speaking about the reaction of customers to what happened.

          Источник рассказал, что изначально их первую группу должны были отправить в Венесуэлу. «Последний фактор, который меня остановил, был вопрос: "Будешь командиром саперов?" Стоп, ребята, я все, конечно, понимаю, но где сопровождение грузов, а где — саперы? Их там в принципе не может быть. Все, я в такие игры не играю», — поделился он. Мужчина отметил, что после этого он отказался от предложения.

          According to the interlocutor of MK, on ​​July 25, the group was supposed to fly to Istanbul, but did not get on the plane, despite the registration passed in advance: “But instead of that, for some reason, they leave for the hotel, which was booked in advance. Later they explained to me that a command was sent from above - not to fly. "

          When asked whose "game" this could be, the source said that the President of Belarus. “Definitely, [Alexander] Lukashenko. Where politics is, the law raises its paws. As it seems to me, there is no mnogohodovochka here, Old Man just wants to stay in power at any cost, and therefore arranged an amateur performance, "he said. Speaking about the detained friends, the man admitted that in the current situation "they are not even pawns, they are meat."
    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 5 August 2020 16: 15 New
      15
      Yes, Rygorych made porridge ...
      Если выдаст, то это будет переход "красной линии". Назад дороги не будет. Тут уж или с Россией или против неё...
      1. Andr_38
        Andr_38 5 August 2020 16: 38 New
        16
        Quote: x.andvlad

        Если выдаст, то это будет переход "красной линии". Назад дороги не будет. Тут уж или с Россией или против неё...

        He has already crossed this red line. And, I hope, Putin has drawn the appropriate conclusions regarding this monster.
      2. Junior Private
        Junior Private 5 August 2020 18: 09 New
        +2
        If he does, he will sign his own verdict. Lukashenka himself seems ripe for the betrayal of Belarus. As always, Russia will be blamed for EVERYTHING (the United States will help, it's not in vain that Old Man licked with Pompeo), and Belarusians will pay for everything.
    4. alex34
      alex34 5 August 2020 16: 16 New
      22
      has already extradited our citizens to Belarus several times. recently, a blogger who ridiculed Azerbaijan's border guards on the internet for 3 years was given so that it would not be casual to mock.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 5 August 2020 16: 45 New
        +4
        The blogger was a citizen of several countries. At the request of his Israeli friends, he was released and he went to Israel.
    5. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 August 2020 16: 29 New
      15
      I’m afraid he’ll give it out, but we decided not to recognize the elections as there were no observers.
      And there there is an option to call Russia through parliament, as a body elected by the people. And then to talk in detail with the detained citizen Bulba.
      Though dreams, dreams ...
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 5 August 2020 16: 35 New
        10
        Quote: K-612-O
        I’m afraid

        If it does, it will be another blow to the image of the Russian leadership. They cannot defend their own, so. And whoever says, they say they are mercenaries, they do not feel sorry for them, let them remember. that they are citizens of the Russian Federation, and this can happen to anyone. hi
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 6 August 2020 08: 05 New
          0
          dad is not a suicide)))) after that he will not live to see NG
    6. Simon
      Simon 5 August 2020 17: 24 New
      +2
      Yes of course! Lukashenka will be hard now. It was he who fell between the anvil and the hammer, due to his big misunderstanding. In short, not yours, not ours, but he definitely made himself worse. fool
    7. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 5 August 2020 18: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      Although where and what will he knock is an open question.

      He, like Yanukovych in his time, keeps his money where? So the uncle from the State Department crushed him.
    8. your1970
      your1970 5 August 2020 19: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      Lukashenka, of course, has gone crazy, but I think he will not issue an extradition.

      Although where he and what will knock is an open question ...

      If not, country 404 will say that Belarus is harboring terrorists ...
      Also not ice for RB ..
  • fuel oil
    fuel oil 5 August 2020 16: 05 New
    22
    "Союзник"...
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 05 New
    +8
    For the sake of maintaining power, Luke is of course ready for anything. But 404 is not his assistant in this.
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 August 2020 16: 09 New
      +5
      So she was already in his hands, why arrange this show?
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 30 New
        +3
        So he is not sure of the campaign in himself. Why else would you put your competitors in jail?
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 August 2020 16: 49 New
          +6
          So I mean it, all the competitors are sitting, why another show, what is the logic?
          1. Sahalinets
            Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 56 New
            +3
            He is already afraid of women ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 5 August 2020 17: 05 New
              +4
              And she has already turned to Merkel for protection. yes
  • cniza
    cniza 5 August 2020 16: 09 New
    +7
    Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine


    Is that why he keeps pumping up? What is he seeking?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 5 August 2020 16: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement officers will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine


      Is that why he keeps pumping up? What is he seeking?

      know him who has promised and will remain in power and help the main thing with the Russian Federation quarrel by any means
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 August 2020 16: 48 New
        +5
        But he is not, because he knows the value of their promises ...
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      1. cniza
        cniza 5 August 2020 16: 51 New
        +5
        Quote: Sahalinets
        My ex-wife was also sure that I was not going anywhere. And I was very surprised when I became an ex. wink


        A good comparison, only he is not a woman and understands that he has crossed all the red lines and continues to use a drill ...
        1. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 5 August 2020 16: 57 New
          +3
          Don't overestimate his intelligence!
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 August 2020 17: 07 New
            +4
            You don't have to be very smart here, here is the loss of common sense ...
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 5 August 2020 16: 10 New
    +4
    A freak with a letter ... negative
  • CorvusMag
    CorvusMag 5 August 2020 16: 11 New
    +1
    When I was on an excursion to Sochi, the guide showed us Lukashenka's dacha ..... Maybe he really doesn't need it?
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 5 August 2020 16: 12 New
    11
    if he does, it will be a betrayal in full!
  • polpot
    polpot 5 August 2020 16: 17 New
    21
    A wonderful duet of a clown and a schizophrenic, we only feel sorry for our people there.
  • KAVBER
    KAVBER 5 August 2020 16: 19 New
    +5
    Either this is a cunning game of ours and the Belarusians, and the troops raised on alarm will go where they need to, and will not crawl on the joint border, or Lukashenka has gone completely out of power and then anything can happen. In any case, the only question for the growth of the Russian Federation is when and what.
    1. demo
      demo 5 August 2020 16: 24 New
      +5
      The last in your statement is more true.

      Apparently Luke thinks like this - After us, even the flood!
  • fuel oil
    fuel oil 5 August 2020 16: 22 New
    11
    At best, he will end up like Slobodan Milosevic, at worst like Gaddafi.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 6 August 2020 02: 32 New
      -1
      Quote: black oil
      At best, he will end up like Slobodan Milosevic, at worst like Gaddafi.

      In a sense, such a formulation is a good characteristic for him.
      Those. the interests of their people are not alien. hi
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 August 2020 16: 23 New
    +5
    2nd movement of the Marlezon ballet
  • Lumpen
    Lumpen 5 August 2020 16: 25 New
    +1
    Сейчас у "бацьки" хорошие отношения с Зе ,тем более намечен официальный визит на октябрь месяц ,и не очень хорошие отношения с ВВП,но страна союзник.Посмотрим дальнейшие "телодвижения". Однозначного ответа нет
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat 5 August 2020 16: 30 New
      -1
      I bet that the elections will end, the guys will be returned to their homeland. And so the owner / sponsor Ze pushed through a bad ban on the purchase of electricity from Belarus, and this is not beneficial for us, not for the Russians. Since this money would be used to pay off the loan to Rosatom.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 5 August 2020 16: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Darkesstcat
        I bet that the elections will end, the guys will be returned to their homeland.

        I really want to hope ...
        The head of the Belarusian parliament's commission on international affairs Andrei Savinykh told Izvestia that the situation with the detention of Russian citizens lies within the legal framework, “Belarusian legislation will be applied against them, there should be no insinuations”. At the same time, the politician allowed their subsequent extradition to Russia. - Everything that is possible from a legal point of view will be implemented. I do not see any legal problems for this, and even more so there will be no political problems, - the politician stressed.
        https://iz.ru/1043922/elnar-bainazarov/sudiat-po-vsemu-v-minske-dopustili-ekstraditciiu-zaderzhannykh-rossiian
        but somehow ...
        1. Kisa
          Kisa 6 August 2020 01: 13 New
          +1
          how it goes - if everything is quiet then tickets to them to Moscow. if the hard scenario is on the 9th, then to Kiev (although it is not even necessary - for this you need iron bells
  • pepel
    pepel 5 August 2020 16: 29 New
    +4
    "Папик" закусил удила. am
  • Coconut
    Coconut 5 August 2020 16: 31 New
    +7
    if Lukash will do it ... then he has a cover ..)
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 32 New
    +7
    laughing Hello, father, anybody.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 5 August 2020 16: 35 New
      +9
      Note that you can't see them here. Especially those who write Russia with a small letter
      1. Andr_38
        Andr_38 5 August 2020 16: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: K-612-O
        Note that you can't see them here. Especially those who write Russia with a small letter

        They frantically come up with at least some arguments and excuses. They'll be drawn soon, I'm sure. laughing
  • shoroh
    shoroh 5 August 2020 16: 33 New
    +7
    This is what happens when you play in power without thinking ahead. If in the 2000s he held a referendum and returned to his native harbor, he would sit quietly as the president of the Republic of Byalorus to death, and now he, like missing cutlets, is trying to figure out where to run to the house or burp back through his mouth.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 35 New
    +5
    Рыгорыч в своём репертуаре - и нашим, и вашим. Пытается трясти своей бахатовекторностью, как будто по вопросу выдачи россиян можно одновременной угодить и России и б/Украине. Охренительный союзничек. Лука действительно звизданулся. Хотя у него своя "реальность" laughingА Кремль на "войну" опять не явился. Ну шо за здрада такая? Так и победятЪ, виртуально, на свою жопу. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 39 New
    +3
    У пациента болезнь в острой фазе, по симптомам: маниакально депрессивный психоз. Депрессия от "посчитали- прослезились", маниакальный психоз из серии "везде подкуп и и измена". Плюс Путин ещё и слова не сказал лично по данному вопросу. От этого тоже рвет шифер и без того поехавшего чердака laughing
  • Alexga
    Alexga 5 August 2020 16: 40 New
    -5
    For those who are particularly concerned and do not read the primary sources:
    August 5, Minsk / Corr. BELTA /. President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko had a telephone conversation with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. BelTA learned this from the press service of the Belarusian leader.

    The heads of state discussed the development of bilateral relations, preparations for the holding of the third Forum of the Regions of Belarus and Ukraine in Grodno this fall. They noted the need to make every effort to ensure that this event yielded significant practical results, served to intensify cooperation.

    Alexander Lukashenko and Volodymyr Zelenskyy also discussed the epidemiological situation in the countries, measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus, and shared their experience in this regard.

    They also talked about strengthening border control at the Belarusian-Ukrainian border and enhancing interaction between border agencies.

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy raised in a conversation the issue of militants detained in Belarus. He informed that they took part in hostilities in Donbass, and the Ukrainian prosecutor's office is investigating these facts. Alexander Lukashenko, in turn, noted that law enforcement agencies will cooperate on this issue within the framework of international agreements signed with Russia and Ukraine.
    1. Flamberg
      Flamberg 5 August 2020 16: 49 New
      0
      It's too late .... Luka has been brought out here 100500 times.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 5 August 2020 18: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexGa
      For those who are particularly concerned and do not read the primary sources:

      You cited the message of Belarus, in the article a quote of what is written on the official website of the President of Ukraine and this is the same source.
      I hope that all suspects of terrorist activity on the territory of Ukraine will be transferred to us for prosecution in accordance with the current international legal documents

      Something like this ...
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 5 August 2020 19: 08 New
        -2
        The question is about the activities of the Belarusian side, therefore, a more important link from the official source of the Republic of Belarus. And what the southern neighbors think there is somehow not at all interesting to me, they say a lot of things there, and I perceive their president at the level of the 95th quarter. But against the background of all this hysteria, I somehow forgot the story of the extradition of journalist Elena Boyko by Russia to Ukraine in January last year. They gave their ally to their enemy. How do you call it?
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 5 August 2020 20: 26 New
          0
          Quote: AlexGa
          I somehow forgot the story of the extradition of journalist Elena Boyko by Russia to Ukraine in January last year. They gave their ally to their enemy. How do you call it?

          Когда её выдавали страсти кипели в том числе и здесь, кто-то был за неё, кто-то утверждал, что она связана со спецслужбами Украины. Что там было конкретно... не знаю, по мне отдавать не стоило, но аргументы нашлись.... Время прошло страсти немного улеглись. Из СИЗО её отпустили под подписку о невыезде В июне на НТВ "Исповедь узницы Порошенко".
          Quote: AlexGa
          What do the southern neighbors think there is somehow not interesting to me at all, they say a lot of things there

          But from the side of the Republic of Belarus, no one denied such a possibility.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 5 August 2020 20: 48 New
            +1
            She was released from jail on recognizance not to leave

            But one and a half years in jail. For standing up for the truth. And be given out. I remember that Moskalkova's appeals did not help. That was, and what they are trying to think of about Lukashenka has not happened yet, but everyone is sure.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 5 August 2020 21: 38 New
              0
              Quote: AlexGa
              I remember that Moskalkova's appeals did not help. That was, and what they are trying to think of about Lukashenka has not happened yet, but everyone is sure.

              "еще ничего не произошло" произошло то, что это вышло на публику. К сожалению неизвестны те аргументы которые в то время перевесили обращение Москальковой, как и неизвестны те основания после чего АГЛ вынес это на всеобщий простор... "Вы понимаете, что между Минском и Москвой много каналов общения, в том числе и по линии правоохранительных ведомств. Будем надеяться, что эти каналы будут достаточны для того, чтобы прояснить ситуацию" - Песков.... но произошло то, что произошло.... если это попытка торга с Россией, то есть основания полагать, что ставки будут повышаться в том числе с угрозой выдачи... если что-то другое... поживем, увидим, но боюсь что это будет после выборов....
  • BAI
    BAI 5 August 2020 16: 41 New
    -1
    I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 5 August 2020 16: 54 New
      +5
      Well, in Russia recently, one American was given 8 years for attacking US police officers.
    2. loki565
      loki565 5 August 2020 17: 34 New
      +3
      I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.

      Well, what would it be ???)))
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 5 August 2020 16: 42 New
    12
    Some of us will be hysterical again, they say, following Ukraine, Russia is losing Belarus, but I have argued and will continue to argue that it is not Russia that is losing them, it is they who are losing Russia ... to partnerships, well, finally, it's time to finish this fairy tale about the union state ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 5 August 2020 16: 42 New
    +5
    request
    Quote: NIKNN
    We are friends of peoples

    We actually live in a union state! In the legal concept. And transferring our citizens to third parties (states) is too much! And to such a state with which relations are now bad. To transfer to the enemy! fool
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 August 2020 16: 44 New
    +3
    Lukashenka has experience of extradition at the request of third countries.

    Blogger Alexander Lapshin was arrested on December 15, 2016 in Minsk. On February 7, he was extradited from Belarus to Azerbaijan, where a criminal case was opened against Lapshin. The blogger was accused of visiting the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh and public speaking in support of separatism. It was on these charges that Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. Lapshin has citizenship of three countries - Russia, Israel and Ukraine. The Foreign Ministries of Israel and Russia spoke out against his extradition, but Minsk did not go to meet them.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 5 August 2020 16: 56 New
      -1
      I, of course, understand your concern about your compatriot, BUT Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. And the country in which the person was detained through Interpol is obliged to fulfill the requirements of the applicant country. Something like that in international criminal law.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 5 August 2020 17: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: AlexGa
        I, of course, understand your concern about your compatriot, BUT Lapshin was put on the international wanted list by Interpol. And the country in which the person was detained through Interpol is obliged to fulfill the requirements of the applicant country. Something like that in international criminal law.

        Ironically, Lapshin is exactly like that my compatriot like your.
        So, they were obliged to detain him, but extradition, on politically motivated cases, is left to the discretion of the detained party. Batsko - did not see it. hi
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 05 New
          -3
          Ну хорошо. Давайте разбиремся. Является ли НКАО суверенным субъектом или это часть Азербайджана? Часть Азербайджана, поэтом у про политику можно не говорить. Простое уголовное дело, незаконный переход границы. А вот В данном случае, Израиль и Россия действовали исходя из логике "следует полагать", Это так на кухне можно думать. А что касается моей точки зрения, то это хорошо что БЛОГЕРА поставили в положение ЗЮ. За свои публикации и слова следует отвечать. как там у Пушкина: "Его пример, другим наука..."
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 5 August 2020 18: 16 New
            +6
            It is not that simple.
            The February 2017 extradition of a blogger from Minsk to Baku has caused tension in relations between Armenia and Belarus, and has also become a topic of the foreign policy agenda in Israel and Russia. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia is categorically against the extradition of the blogger to Azerbaijan, as well as against the criminalization of visits by Russians to certain regions of the world. Also, Israel protested in connection with the extradition of Lapshin. As a result, five states were drawn and involved in an international scandal around the blogger.
            Lapshin has filed with the ECHR and now someone else will be put in the SJ position.
            hi
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 27 New
              -4
              Alexander, I perfectly understand the whole political game, every country should be concerned about its face. The position of Israel and Russia is clear, the position of Azerbaijan is also clear. It’s not even interesting to talk about the Armenians, let them wash. And what should Belarus have done when this blogger appeared on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, when an Interpol warrant was issued against him? This blogger may not have thought that with his trick he would play off five countries, but he did it and the mechanism of international justice started working. The lawsuit in the ECHR against the Republic of Belarus, it's funny, the Republic of Belarus is not a member of the Council of Europe, so all this is empty trouble. I do not see any problems, they will be frightened by sanctions, as the Republic of Belarus has been living under them for a long time, and lives decently enough, at least I and my environment.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 5 August 2020 18: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: AlexGa
                A claim to the ECHR against the Republic of Belarus,

                The claim is against Azerbaijan, not Belarus.
                https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=45881&lang=2
                hi
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 5 August 2020 18: 38 New
                  -5
                  Lawsuit against Azerbaijan, not RB

                  Moreover, this is generally purple for Aliyev, international law is on his side. Karabakh is Azerbaijan, nobody canceled it. I doubt very much that the claim will be satisfied. There is also Kosovo, which is generally a murky example, but they are somehow cunningly talked about when it comes to recognition by someone. But in Crimea, for some reason, those that recognized Kosovo are modestly silent. Although Ukraine is bombing the ECHR with its claims against Russia.
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 5 August 2020 19: 14 New
                    +1
                    In fact, you are digging too deep. My post at the beginning only said that Father will extradite these tourists. I assure you, at the request of Ukraine, Interpol will write red cards for these guys without a single objection. It is a pity that they were held hostage to political games. They have practically no rights anyway. And in the event of their death, even their native State will secretly bury them ...
                    1. Alexga
                      Alexga 5 August 2020 19: 28 New
                      -2
                      May Luka not give anyone away to Ukraine, you don't even need to spend time on this. It is surprising that it is not clear who and where sent this group, or no one talks about it, neither the Russian Federation nor the Republic of Belarus. I think that the FSB group is already working together with the KGB of Belarus, I think the traces of this setup lead to a third country. There, who paid for it all. I don’t want to offend anyone, but there is a question about 29 people that the SBU will talk about. I'm not talking about crimes about which Ukraine is fooling everyone's head. These are their problems. The question is, are there people who lived in Donbass, they came out to defend their land from the current Kiev authorities, and that the war there ended, ended with the victory of Donbass? She is now walking there and people are dying. And then a group of people appeared who left to defend their citizens and their Land, received Russian citizenship and decided to earn cheap money for themselves somewhere in a foreign land. In my opinion, a person for whom defense of the Motherland was a profession for most of his life, the act of these people is quite, to put it mildly, bad. So let's say dithering. Of course, it is impossible to transfer them, but there is no Warrior Honor to them.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 5 August 2020 16: 53 New
    +4
    Чем больше смотрю весь этот цирк, тем больше убеждаюсь, что у Рыгорыча поехала крыша, он от страха и жадности тронулся умом. ОЧЕНЬ это похоже на аналогичные действия Янык-овоща в конце 2013 - начале 2014. И то же недоумение и неверие у всех нормальных людей: "Ну не может же это быть! Ну не может же он не понимать к чему это приведёт!" В данном случае это вдвойне странно, потому что Лука видел весь процесс свержения Яныка и хорошо знает плачевный итог. Но что для сумасшедших исторический опыт?
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 5 August 2020 18: 17 New
      -4
      The total will be different. A. G. Lukashenko is not a thief ... and there is nothing to take from him, a goal like a falcon, but Yanukovych, in terms of pouring stolen money into the Russian economy, was a very welcome guest.
  • Naval
    Naval 5 August 2020 16: 53 New
    +7
    Это какой то государственный терроризм. Задержать за то что одежда в стиле милитари и алкоголем не балуешься, а потом выдать на растерзание нацикам... Это что то запредельное. Воистину "братские" отношения.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 16: 56 New
    +7
    Quote: BAI
    I can imagine what it would be like if 33 Americans were detained somewhere. As the state treats its citizens, so they are treated abroad.

    On November 4, 1979, a group of young radical Iranian students seized the US embassy with 66 hostages, which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day. This crisis imprinted in the history of America one of the most painful and humiliating pages in the entire existence of this state, and led to the defeat of President Jimmy Carter in the 1980 elections and the victory of Ronald Reagan. laughing
    1. BAI
      BAI 5 August 2020 17: 11 New
      -5
      which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day

      And what caused us?
  • Narcologist
    Narcologist 5 August 2020 16: 59 New
    -3
    Well discussed and discussed .. You never know what they are discussing!
    But to decide something, here, alas, with an eye, everyone does what they are told hi
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 17: 20 New
    +8
    Quote: Sahalinets
    Plays an anti-Russian card. Look, they say, what a fighter I am against Rashka!
    And he is sure that Russia will not go anywhere, will continue to give him everything for free, no matter how much he shits on us. My ex-wife was also sure that I was not going anywhere. And I was very surprised when I became an ex. wink

    No ultimatums needed! It is necessary for Mrs. Popova to notice all kinds of crap in the goods from Belarus laughing
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 August 2020 17: 22 New
    -2
    Quote: DenZ
    Quote: NIKNN
    It seems to me that yes here we were outplayed

    We were not outplayed, it is definitely called differently, but something like that was worth waiting for after Lukashenka's rapprochement with the United States and we saw it pretty quickly

    Do they often outplay Russia lately? Maybe someone swam fat and stopped seeing the real picture of the world?
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 August 2020 17: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Andr_38
    Quote: Belomorkanal
    We all say that Lukashenka in this situation behaved like a bullshit.
    Okay, I agree that he is bad, but how good is our country in this situation?
    Let's imagine for a moment that some third-rate country has captured and held, with the prospect of being transferred into the hands of third parties, 33 citizens of the United States or Israel ...

    In response, Russia has already sharply tightened the rules for crossing the Russian-Belarusian border and refused to send observers to the presidential elections in Belarus. What do you propose to send troops, bomb Lukashenka’s residence, or what?

    And what, in Belarus there is no region like Crimea? And then the border crossing was tightened! You indulge in little things.
  • viktor.
    viktor. 5 August 2020 17: 26 New
    +3
    Yes, that's from whom I did not expect such meanness, and it is from him! He needs to tighten all the nuts so that his people will stick their heads in the ground !!!
  • yfast
    yfast 5 August 2020 17: 27 New
    -8
    33 Spartans (to put it mildly) missed political information lessons, did not follow the events in the world, did not know about the upcoming elections, had no idea about the difficult relationship between Pu and Lu. Now the country must fight for them to the death. Where is Pu?
  • georggy
    georggy 5 August 2020 17: 41 New
    0
    Well, here: the gypsies got together with a Jew and decided ................. he leaked, and we are worse.
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 5 August 2020 17: 47 New
    +3
    Российская сторона тоже "молодец". До сих пор не может внятно объяснить куда эти ребята ехали. Видимо потому что пункт назначения называть нельзя. Очередной наш прокол. Понятно, что это не Беларусь, но куда не говорят. Лукашенко, (называть его батькой после многожо..векторности не хочется, мой батька совсем другой) тоже перегибает палку. Играть в такие игры с союзником или партнёром негоже. Слабо представляю, чтобы канадцы задержали 33 граждан США из чвк и грозили их выдать Ирану.
  • sanya
    sanya 5 August 2020 17: 51 New
    +1
    So Russia extradites to Ukraine and Kazakhstan and many other people who fought for Novorossia
    We need to put things in order in Russia first ...
    And you can start with the abolition of quotas for catching seafood for Belarus
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 5 August 2020 18: 05 New
    +1
    And Rygorych has already packed his suitcase with bulb, bacon and vodka, and bought a ticket to VNA-Ukraine?
    Nude ... wassat hi
  • Conell f
    Conell f 5 August 2020 18: 20 New
    +1
    INFORMATION for thought: The United States has invested about $ 3 billion in the preparation and conduct of the Maidan in 5 years !!!
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 5 August 2020 19: 30 New
      +2
      But now whose Crimea?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 18: 22 New
    +4
    Lukashenka said about the approaching catastrophe of a planetary scale. Lukashenka said about the proximity of the planet to the abyss and the danger of its "explosion" at every moment. “Our planet is gradually but surely sliding towards the abyss. It seems that it is enough to light a simple match and the planet will explode, "said the current President of Belarus ... belay fool
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 5 August 2020 19: 53 New
    0
    A. Lukashenko meets and negotiates with V. Zelensky. Inside Ukraine V. Zelensky tongue уже "Зеро" или "Му-му". Александр Григорьевич договаривается с "Зеро", о чём, что может сделать "Зеро" в ответ на "выдачу" ? Или Григорич хочет совершить "разворот на Запад" ? Если дело в лишних годах "президентского срока" то мог бы лет 15 назад "батька" объявить себя "пожизненным отцом белорусов" - ему бы никто и слова против не сказал бы...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 20: 02 New
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    Quietly rustling with slate, the roof is going slowly ... dad, where did you taxi? To Europe? Are you sure that the lace panties will fit the style?
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 5 August 2020 20: 15 New
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    Лукашенко в принципе может доказать РФ, что в ОДКБ РФ кроме РФ никто в принципе и не нужен, не оглядываясь на балласт можно жить как хочется, а не "как у людей".
  • Assyrian
    Assyrian 5 August 2020 20: 22 New
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    Lukashenka scooped up from the bottom. yes
  • Dikson
    Dikson 5 August 2020 20: 57 New
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    Что-то тут у нас все про какие-то "красные линии" пишут , которые Лукашенко перешёл.. Говоря простым языком, Россия ничего не сможет прямо противопоставить выдаче наших граждан Украине.. Обвинение в международном терроризме.. - это нифига не шуточки. Президент Белоруссии наверняка не хочет , чтобы его страна попала под каток международных санкций по поводу "пособничества и укрывательства..международных террористов".. и уже не важно, что там Прилепин налепил с три короба, куда и кто ехать должен был.. Разыграли , как по нотам.. Либо разругаться с Россией, либо попасть под жесткий мировой прессинг, который ему Штаты и Европа устроят.. А поскольку у нас в стране ЧВК как бы запрещены.. то ребят вытаскивать всерьёз не будут.. - озабоченности и огорчения по дипломатическим каналам безусловно высказывались и ещё будут сказаны..Но критического эффекта они иметь не будут.. Грустно.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 5 August 2020 21: 08 New
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      I ask you. Changing shoes in the air, not finding the composition of the attack, which, by the way, is not, and letting go to all 4 directions until no official gestures come from Ukraine is a trifling matter. None of the detainees has yet been accused of any international terrorism.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 5 August 2020 21: 16 New
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        I agree with you that one of the loyal solutions would be to simply expel 33 okhlomons from the country with a ban on entry .. In the end, Israel, so unloved by everyone, does just that .. even tougher, they simply may not be allowed into the country without explaining the reasons .We'll see.
    2. Radius
      Radius 5 August 2020 21: 56 New
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      Why design something? If they are Russian citizens, then they must be extradited to the Russian side. Where and will answer if required. There is no need to invent something ... Justification of swindling is swinish.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 August 2020 21: 11 New
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    Quote: BAI
    which caused a powerful diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States and provoked a sharp deterioration in relations between them, which continues to this day

    And what caused us?

    A mockery of grief liberators laughing The criticism was mainly related to the failure of the Eagle Claw rescue operation on April 24, 1980, when eight US Air Force personnel were killed as a result of technical problems, the target was not achieved, and the situation of the hostages worsened due to the increased suspicion of the Iranian authorities, who began to expect new ones. sabotage by the Americans. After the failure of the operation, the Iranian authorities dispersed the hostages to different cities, some of which were moved 24 times.
  • Kapkan
    Kapkan 5 August 2020 21: 33 New
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    Fucking traitors, these Belarusians.
    1. cmax
      cmax 5 August 2020 22: 42 New
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      You shouldn't be so. He bored us so much ........
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 August 2020 03: 26 New
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    If someone thinks that Lukashenka has become anti-Russian simply because the reins fell under his tail, then I hasten to disappoint. It is he who is quite deliberately trying to earn the sympathy of the population.

    Understanding that Russia has been supporting the country for all these years - in trace quantities, by a few, as a rule, middle managers in industry. Understanding that without Russia the country will turn into a dull shit like Georgia in just a couple of years - and even less. The people still have a belief that they are expected in the EU, and more money will be injected than the Poles. ... Today, after Lukashenka's speech, the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation announced that it would not send observers to the elections in Belarus.

    This, in my opinion, is the most serious on this topic that has been officially announced.
    In practice, this usually means the highest probability of non-recognition of the election results. laughing laughing
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 August 2020 03: 51 New
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    Old Man is preparing his own gallows .. in vain .. to know the example of KADAFFY does not teach anything! it's a pity!
  • Tzar
    Tzar 6 August 2020 04: 37 New
    +1
    Recently, Luke's tricks have caused only disgust. Falls lower and lower.
  • AX
    AX 6 August 2020 05: 04 New
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    Rumor has it that a polar fox has come to visit Kolenka's dad.)))