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The Ukrainian Navy intends to strengthen the American anti-ship missiles ВGM-176В Griffin

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The Ukrainian Navy intends to strengthen the American anti-ship missiles ВGM-176В Griffin

The command of the Naval Forces of Ukraine intends to strengthen the combat potential fleet foreign-made anti-ship missiles. This was reported by the Ukrainian military news agency "ArmiaInform".


Foreign anti-ship missiles will have to strengthen the Ukrainian fleet until the adoption of the naval version of the Ukrainian anti-ship complex "Neptune", which is still under development. We are talking, first of all, about the supply of American anti-ship missiles, which was announced last year.

Against this background, information appeared that the US authorities are considering the possibility of installing on the Mark VI patrol boats, which will be transferred to Ukraine, short-range missile systems, that is, small anti-ship missiles of the BGM-176V Griffin type.

At the same time, the Ukrainian military emphasize that American missiles of the ВGM-176В Griffin "in no case" will compete with the domestic anti-ship missiles "Neptune", since they are "in different niches of combat use."

They have different characteristics and purposes. The Griffin missiles are supposed to protect the coastal zone, and the geography of the Neptune application up to 280 km is the waters of the Azov and Black Seas, including the exclusive (maritime) economic zone of Ukraine

- writes the edition.

For our part, we note that the boat complex with missiles Griffin B has the designation Mk 60 and was developed jointly by Raytheon and the US Navy. The complex, in addition to launchers, includes the FLIR Systems BRITE Star II electronic-optical detection, targeting and illumination system. Rocket length - 110 cm, diameter - 140 mm, rocket weight - 20 kg, warhead - 5,9 kg.

The Ukrainian newspaper writes that the firing range of "Griffins" is 20 km, but in reality this is not the case. When launched from the installation located on the boat, the firing range does not exceed 5,5 km. The rocket can reach a range of 15-20 km when launched from an aircraft carrier, and even then it depends on the altitude of its launch. Initially, this rocket was designed exactly as aviation air-to-surface weapon.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 5 August 2020 13: 10
    +1
    Niches. "Nyaptun" - means of destruction of one bridge.
    1. Finches
      Finches 5 August 2020 13: 22
      +1
      Ukrainian Navy ... - already ridiculous! laughing
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 5 August 2020 13: 55
        -2
        Quote: Finches
        Ukrainian Navy ... - already ridiculous! laughing


        And to see this, and drawing analogies in the proximity of the entities "those" and "these", it becomes not funny.

        German kriegsmarine






        Ukrainian Kriegsmarine


        1. Finches
          Finches 5 August 2020 14: 07
          +2
          Ukraine is under the heel of the United States, which brought the Nazis to power, so that they keep an eye on Nenya!
          1. Narcologist
            Narcologist 5 August 2020 15: 17
            -7
            Quote: Finches
            Ukraine is under the heel of the United States, which brought the Nazis to power, so that they keep an eye on Nenya!

            In the days of the USSR, this could not have been seen in a nightmare .. Ukraine is preparing for war with Russia. I still can't believe it
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 5 August 2020 18: 16
              -2
              Quote: Narkolog
              In Soviet times ...

              Wet dreams. How long can you nod at the USSR and dream of the past? 30 years have passed. It's time to count on today's realities. Do you still dream about Ivan IV, Peter I? Stalin, Beria ... Well, there are none and no analogues are expected. Why sprinkle ashes on the head now? What's the point? One gossip.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 6 August 2020 10: 09
                0
                In the days of the USSR in 1946, there was a uniform war in Ukraine with tanks and art. And the Bandera underground lasted until the end of the 50s ...
        2. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 14: 14
          +5
          Oooh, my friend, as I suspected ... Another St. Petrov.
          Write provocations, and wave them with false patriotism ...
          How about that ?:

          Incidentally, the flag of the Navy of our friendly India.
          But as I understand it, when you see a rainbow in the sky, do you always dream of a gay parade?
          1. BDRM 667
            BDRM 667 5 August 2020 14: 33
            +5
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Incidentally, the flag of the Navy of our friendly India.


            Hindus who speak the language of the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) group of the Indo-European family (Avest. Airya-, Old-Ind. Ārya-, Old-Pers. Ariya-) or simply Aryans (also Indo-Iranians), and for whom such symbolism is part of history - this is excusable, and not even discussed.

            But Ukraine, which has known Hitler's boot on itself, must remember about that symbolism, and be aware of their deeds and actions.

            Although, where is CONSCIOUSNESS, and where is UKRAINE ...
          2. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 6 August 2020 08: 39
            0
            How about this would you say?: ..... Duc among the Hindus in all ages, the swastika is present as a symbol of the sun. that is, a virtue in seasonal downpours and as punishment in drought. ..and also the religion is cool ... "that you don’t die at all
    2. credo
      credo 5 August 2020 13: 59
      -1
      The United States makes good money on Russophobia.
      While the Ukrainian "Neptune" is brought to mind and working condition (which Russia sincerely does not want), the United States will earn millions, and perhaps billions, on the supply of military products, even if they are outdated long ago, to Ukraine.
      If such "powerful economies" of the former Baltic republics allow themselves to buy a variety of American weapons, Ukraine, as a larger fragment of the USSR and an industrially developed entity, will be imposed until recently even more extensive purchases of overseas weapons.
      Ukraine was a rich republic (at the expense of the Union) and came out of it secured, and since there is money for American products, it means this is not the last purchase.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 5 August 2020 14: 34
        0
        What kind of money? They will steam the mattress toppers into debt, a semi-finished product, and then, together with the liver, this debt will be extended. "Buyers" do not care, they will not pay, but "independent" Ukrainian people with their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 59
        0
        Quote: credo
        Until the Ukrainian "Neptune" is brought to mind and working condition (which in Russia they sincerely do not want)

        Yes, Russia does not care. "Neptune", these are missiles of the last century and in our time, are knocked down with a "stick". Moreover, things will not go further than loud statements from Ukraine. Ukraine is not a country to be afraid of. Fear, yes, but only its inadequacy, remembering about the "monkey with a grenade."
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 5 August 2020 13: 10
    +1
    The range of 5.5 km will definitely allow the ruin to become the ruler of the seas.
    However, in the hands of monkeys to give a serious device, it is frankly shit to humanity.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 5 August 2020 13: 23
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      The range of 5.5 km will definitely allow the ruin to become the ruler of the seas.
      However, in the hands of monkeys to give a serious device, it is frankly shit to humanity.

      Hit the border guards, hit the tishka, the range is enough ...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 August 2020 14: 40
      +4
      A naval variant, it was developed for the American Littorial Combat Ships.
      With a range of 15 km.
      This is not much, but in terms of guidance systems, the missile is very modern.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2020 21: 09
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        but in terms of guidance systems, the missile is very modern.

        ????????
        laughing
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 5 August 2020 21: 22
          +1
          "The Sea Griffin will use a dual-mode seeker with an imaging infrared seeker and semi-active laser guidance, and a data-link to track multiple threats simultaneously and give it a fire-and-forget capability."
          What is imaging infrared seeker do you know? smile
          IR video camera in the GOS.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 5 August 2020 21: 45
            +1
            This is all very interesting ...
            However, the Sea Griffin remained a project, the fleet in the 14th year preferred the "Helfair Longbow"

            Therefore, the "very modern in guidance systems" rocket ВGM-176B Griffin B (Block II) is, in fact, an analogue of the good old "Helfair K" at the end of the last century with a semi-active LGSN and an autopilot with correction for ZHPS
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 5 August 2020 22: 06
              0
              Sea Griffin has been renamed Griffin C. And it is in production for customers.
              A C-variant is currently in production and will feature dual-mode guidance and Griffin C-ER aims to extend the range of the missile "
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 5 August 2020 22: 12
                +1
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Sea Griffin renamed to Griffin C. And it's in production

                Only the developers themselves do not know about this ...
                https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/griffin-missile
                He's not "in production." For it will be produced only IF there are customers. Which anti-boat missile at this price does not need at all

                But nevertheless it is so, lyrics.
                Have you seen the title of the article you are posting under?
          2. Pavel57
            Pavel57 6 August 2020 08: 43
            0
            The IR camera will not be very good in fog. Although fog is rare on the sea.)))
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 6 August 2020 10: 11
              0
              Quote: Pavel57
              Although fog on the sea is rare.)))


              Have you decided to joke?
              1. Pavel57
                Pavel57 6 August 2020 10: 12
                0
                I'm talking about all-weather IR heads.
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 August 2020 14: 42
      -1
      Quote: Livonetc
      5.5 range km

      It's just that it's not a RCC
      These missiles were originally created as a cheap alternative to the Javelins.
    4. Potomac
      Potomac 5 August 2020 15: 06
      0
      The supply of air defense systems to DeNeRe has long been confirmed.
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 5 August 2020 13: 12
    +1
    are there enough boats? "bounties" to install ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 5 August 2020 13: 32
      +2
      located on a boat, the firing range does not exceed 5,5 km.
      Will the kachter do the overkill after the launch? lol
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 5 August 2020 13: 33
        +2
        There are definitely more questions than answers ... laughing
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 5 August 2020 13: 37
          +1
          Quote: Mouse
          More questions

          Vasek hi That's when they get it, install it and shoot - then we'll see!
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 5 August 2020 13: 40
            +2
            hi we don't give a damn ... well, look ... and they should decide these issues ... of course, if there is still something to decide ... wink
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 5 August 2020 13: 43
              +1
              Quote: Mouse
              we don't give a damn.

              Estessno ... Just natural curiosity ... belay
              1. Mouse
                Mouse 5 August 2020 13: 46
                +2
                Curiosity, unlike curiosity, is never idle ... yes
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 5 August 2020 14: 26
        0
        Yes, no one cares. The main thing is to have time to pay.
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 August 2020 13: 13
    -1
    to strengthen the combat potential of the fleet with foreign-made anti-ship missiles.
    Strengthen the combat potential of the fleet, building cloisets along the coast can. Then we definitely won't go there. recourse
  5. Magic archer
    Magic archer 5 August 2020 13: 17
    0
    Where does the money come from, Zin)) ?! And 5,5 km is not even serious. Now the ATGM has a greater range.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 5 August 2020 14: 35
      +5
      Why not seriously, in butting with the PSKR in the Sea of ​​Azov, what kind of thread Grif can bang. Here, for example, you can put 4-8 of these anti-ship missiles. And use in close maneuvering with the Coast Guard.

      Islands, and any rigid boat that will take 150 kg of cargo (combat post + illumination / detection station + launcher) - is able to shoot at its own control center.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 5 August 2020 13: 18
    +1
    This is for Svidomo .... zrada / peremoga, figs you will understand what it is.
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 5 August 2020 13: 21
    +2
    When launched from the installation located on the boat, the firing range does not exceed 5,5 km.
    The boat is not intended for combat, it is intended to catch poachers and drug smugglers.
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 5 August 2020 13: 53
    +2
    Essentially ATGM, but it is useful for our patrol ships to have one.
    1. mark1
      mark1 5 August 2020 13: 58
      +2
      "Attack", "Chrysanthemum" to depress. It is high time.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 6 August 2020 08: 52
        0
        Attack "," Chrysanthemum "to drown. It's high time ... yes, it seems there were tests of aviation Whirlwinds. Evil tongues say that it is a good thing for boats. But whether they entered the fleet or not, I do not know, for that it is known that it was Osami who annoyed boats at 08.08 08 multi-ton Malachite turned out to be not very successful against small sizes, and a schyas like a vertical Kenzhik (a dagger, a land version of Thor and the heir to the Wasp) steers on the sides
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  10. Eug
    Eug 5 August 2020 14: 22
    +1
    According to its characteristics, the Griffin resembles a long-range ATGM. Ukraine has its own ATGMs developed by KKB Luch. In my opinion, it would be wiser to try to make a simple guidance system for them. Or does the "big brother" require money?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 5 August 2020 14: 26
      +3
      In fact, this is it, it's just that the warhead is made a little differently + the GOS, and not the guidance.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 August 2020 14: 45
      0
      Quote: Eug
      According to its characteristics, the Griffin resembles a long-range ATGM.

      ?
      According to its characteristics, this is a cheap variant of the "Helfair" with a semi-active laser seeker.
      Created by the Americans to optimize the costs of waging local wars and "stabilization operations"
    3. 3danimal
      3danimal 6 August 2020 01: 35
      -1
      To do it quickly and "on the knee" will not work.
      1. Eug
        Eug 6 August 2020 07: 31
        0
        Even if you try to "cross" the GOS "Neptune" and the existing ATGM guidance and control system? Despite the fact that these are developments of one design bureau ...
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 6 August 2020 10: 02
          -1
          If we take into account the relationship of the rocket with the X-35, the GOS "Neptune" weighs 40-47 kg (and the whole Griffin is half as light). Reducing it several times is not a trivial task at all. Few have an analogue of the Longbow Hellfire.
          these days.
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  13. Lumpen
    Lumpen 5 August 2020 14: 50
    -2
    In addition, negotiations are underway to acquire three Island-class vessels in addition to the existing
  14. aasvbb
    aasvbb 5 August 2020 15: 01
    0
    Quote: BDRM 667
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Incidentally, the flag of the Navy of our friendly India.


    Hindus who speak the language of the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) group of the Indo-European family (Avest. Airya-, Old-Ind. Ārya-, Old-Pers. Ariya-) or simply Aryans (also Indo-Iranians), and for whom such symbolism is part of history - this is excusable, and not even discussed.

    But Ukraine, which has known Hitler's boot on itself, must remember about that symbolism, and be aware of their deeds and actions.

    Although, where is CONSCIOUSNESS, and where is UKRAINE ...

    This symbolism was revered in antiquity by all Slavic peoples, both eastern, western and southern, and not only Slavic, but also Middle Eastern, Germanic, Finno-Ugric and many others, if that is not even discussed.
    1. Avior
      Avior 5 August 2020 15: 34
      +1
      Why in ancient times?
      Specifically, the cross from the Ukrainian flag is a Christian cross, varieties of which are used in many Christian countries.
  15. Karaul73
    Karaul73 5 August 2020 15: 15
    0
    Quote: BDRM 667
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Incidentally, the flag of the Navy of our friendly India.


    Hindus who speak the language of the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) group of the Indo-European family (Avest. Airya-, Old-Ind. Ārya-, Old-Pers. Ariya-) or simply Aryans (also Indo-Iranians), and for whom such symbolism is part of history - this is excusable, and not even discussed.

    But Ukraine, which has known Hitler's boot on itself, must remember about that symbolism, and be aware of their deeds and actions.

    Although, where is CONSCIOUSNESS, and where is UKRAINE ...

    Are you not a politician for an hour? They wrote something. Clever, probably. In your opinion. Are you waiting for the plus signs?
  16. silverura
    silverura 5 August 2020 15: 55
    -1
    Quote: Finches
    Ukraine is under the heel of the United States, which brought the Nazis to power, so that they keep an eye on Nenya!

    The owner, both in Russia and in Ukraine, is the same, only the roles are different. However, they themselves are to blame, at the end of the 80s they turned the wrong way for a number of subjective and objective reasons.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 August 2020 16: 45
    0
    I don’t understand, what the hell do we need to wait until these dumbbells with the rest of the world put on a military shirt? We ourselves create problems in order to courageously overcome them later. In my opinion, this has already happened in our history.
  18. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 5 August 2020 17: 58
    -1
    Mattress covers will be sold, they do not mind bullshit for suckers.
  19. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 5 August 2020 19: 15
    +1
    Initially, this missile was designed specifically as an air-to-surface aircraft weapon.

    Both initially and in the past, this is an air-to-surface missile, surface-to-surface, not an anti-ship missile. Moreover, it is not designed for anti-ship defense. Designed specifically for drones. The author where you copied the text?
  20. 3danimal
    3danimal 6 August 2020 03: 08
    -1
    When launched from the installation located on the boat, the firing range does not exceed 5,5 km. The missile can reach a range of 15-20 km when launched from an aircraft carrier

    Because we are talking about different modifications.
    The new seeker and an extended-range rocket motor, which will add 9.1 kg, will increase the range of the Sea Griffin to 15 km
  21. Escobar
    Escobar 7 August 2020 16: 51
    0
    Rocket length - 110 cm, diameter - 140 mm, rocket weight - 20 kg, warhead - 5,9 kg.
    and it is not too pretentious with such characteristics to call them RCC? They can damage the maximum MRK, and with a launch range of 20 km maximum, this is pure suicide.