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TsNIITOCHMASH started mass production of pistols "Udav"

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TsNIITOCHMASH started mass production of pistols "Udav"

Serial production of the self-loading 9-mm pistol "Udav" developed by TsNIITOCHMASH has started in Russia, the Ministry of Defense has ordered the delivery of the first batch of serial pistols. This was reported by the Rostec press service.


The customer for the development of the pistol is the Russian Ministry of Defense. Earlier it was reported that the military department has begun trial operation of the Boa pistol in the army.

Work on the "Boa" complex (...) moved to the stage of mass production. This suggests that the armed forces have tested, made recommendations and suggestions for finalizing the rifle complex, which have been fully implemented by our enterprise. An order has been received for the first production batch (...)

- said the general director of TsNIITOCHMASH Albert Bakov.

The self-loading pistol "Udav" is a completely domestic development; only Russian components are used in its design. Among the patented technologies is the design of the magazine, which is an indicator of the number of cartridges, which, both visually and tactilely, allows you to determine a fully loaded magazine. The pistol uses two types of ammunition (increased armor penetration and silent firing), specially designed for it.

The 9-mm self-loading pistol SP has an effective firing range of up to 100 m, and is also capable of penetrating second-class personal protective equipment at a distance of up to 75 m. It remains operational in the temperature range from minus 50 ° C to plus 50 ° C. The weight of the "Boa constrictor" with a magazine (without cartridges) is only 780 grams, its length is 206 mm, and its height is 145 mm. Magazine capacity - 18 rounds 9X21 mm. Warranty pistol operating time - 10 shots

- said in the message of "Rostec".
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  1. venik
    venik 5 August 2020 12: 29
    +1
    "...TsNIITOCHMASH started mass production of pistols "Udav".... "
    =====
    Interestingly, and what did the Ministry of Defense not suit the SR-1 "Vector / Gyurza"? Too heavy and difficult to manufacture?
    1. Kapkan
      Kapkan 5 August 2020 13: 05
      +3
      Inconvenient.
      Stupid trigger.
      1. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 5 August 2020 17: 04
        -1
        The first time you get on the bike, it is also uncomfortable.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 August 2020 17: 11
          +7
          Quote: Andrey.AN
          The first time you get on the bike, it is also uncomfortable.

          In your opinion, is it better to sit on an uncomfortable one and gradually get used to it, or get a comfortable one right away?
        2. Alexfly
          Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 02
          0
          Walk!
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 August 2020 12: 31
    -24 qualifying.
    - Tell me, is this a monument not to Queen Victoria ???? -Yes!!! - I never would have thought. (Raikin)
    “Isn't this Glock?” “No. - And I had no doubts. repeat
  3. Masha
    Masha 5 August 2020 12: 39
    -4
    I definitely don't like the title ... he shoots or crushes ... repeat
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    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 August 2020 17: 12
      +6
      Quote: Masha
      I definitely don't like the title ... he shoots or crushes ... repeat

      Do you have "checkers", or go? Or just to pump?
      1. Masha
        Masha 5 August 2020 18: 05
        +3
        not ... not that not another, Stepan ... TT, Makarov, Stechkin ... sounds! and here is some kind of "boa constrictor" ... and don't get me wrong ....... and excuse me in the latrine yet, I don't want to ...
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 5 August 2020 19: 17
          +2
          Maria, Yarygin's pistol (PYa) was also called for a long time by the name of the competition - "Rook", so even here it was "Boa constrictor", then by name.
          1. Masha
            Masha 5 August 2020 19: 23
            +2
            Thank you Ivan! let's hope .... to my deep regret I can't put "+" ... I'm not rated ... crying but from me you + 100500 love as they say ... past the checkout ... wink
            1. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 5 August 2020 19: 53
              +2
              You're welcome)
    3. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 5 August 2020 21: 29
      0
      PK - Kozlov pistol ... is it more suitable? - the designer of the pistol "Boa" - Ivan Kozlov yes
  4. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 5 August 2020 12: 48
    -17 qualifying.
    I don’t understand at all why change the excellent PM for another pistol, and even with a different cartridge? As the experience of all wars shows, the pistol is the most unused weapon in the war; officers in the combat zone carry machine guns with them. A pistol for an officer is just a distinctive mark like a dagger for a naval officer. PM is a cheap, simple, trouble-free pistol, created after the war on TTT by officers who had gone through a bloody war and therefore perfectly understood what kind of pistol was needed for the army.
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 5 August 2020 12: 56
      -2
      I completely agree. all the more on adrenaline from any pistol, only by putting the barrel to the head you can get hit, the rest is either the whole life of training or a case ... in the army of the first units, but with a case with a mass approach, jokes are bad ...
      1. Obliterator
        Obliterator 5 August 2020 13: 30
        +5
        Quote: TAMBU
        all the more on adrenaline from any pistol, only by putting the barrel to the head can you hit, the rest - or the whole life of training or an occasion ...

        Speculation.
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 5 August 2020 15: 36
          +1
          pfff ... of course, in a combat situation, what adrenaline ... from where?
          1. Obliterator
            Obliterator 5 August 2020 20: 56
            0
            Quote: TAMBU
            pfff ... of course, in a combat situation, what adrenaline ... from where?

            If adrenaline rush you in a combat situation so that you can't hit anyone but yourself, then you don't belong there.
            1. TAMBU
              TAMBU 6 August 2020 00: 18
              0
              no pistol. I won't. I will try only out of despair. it's not trap shooting. You wouldn't be too rude and think better of your place in battle. but as a rule such talkers as it comes down to it and you will not find them. but in your case, I have no doubt that with a pistol in a real battle you are a full-fledged combat unit. I'm just about the fact that there are few like you. you need to take care of the warriors. it’s like me the darkness - that there is an aircraft engine - finga, any plumber can handle it. so do not overdo it, take care of yourself.
              1. Obliterator
                Obliterator 6 August 2020 00: 44
                0
                Quote: TAMBU
                no pistol. I won't. I will try only out of despair. it's not trap shooting. You wouldn't be too rude and think better of your place in battle. but as a rule such talkers as it comes down to it and you will not find them. but in your case, I have no doubt that with a pistol in a real battle you are a full-fledged combat unit. I'm just about the fact that there are few like you. you need to take care of the warriors. it’s like me the darkness - that there is an aircraft engine - finga, any plumber can handle it. so do not overdo it, take care of yourself.

                I am not interested in your transition to personalities? For example, I did not stick out myself in any way, and I myself, most likely, will not get into a stressful situation properly. But at the same time, I know people who, not being highly trained shooters, in stressful situations, shot and hit. The average Russian police, for example, can hardly be called well-trained shooters, but they quite use weapons from year to year, even against criminals, even on the wheels of moving equipment, quite successfully.
            2. Alexfly
              Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 10
              0
              Doesn't the hover bother you? What do you accept? What is the name of this remedy? Not 100 grams?
    2. alpamys
      alpamys 5 August 2020 12: 57
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      created it after the war by TTT officers,

      with "Walther PP" copied and business, the difference is only one fuse box down, the other up
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 5 August 2020 17: 53
        0
        - The Sauer 38n has a fuse similar to the PM ...
      2. Alexfly
        Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 13
        0
        put two pistols side by side, disassemble and see how much they are identical, and then make such loud statements
    3. garri-lin
      garri-lin 5 August 2020 12: 59
      +7
      Cartridge 9 × 21. It is very promising for both a pistol and a submachine gun. Plus a much greater modernization potential. For a pistol, it is a little redundant, but for a PP it is almost ideal. Ammunition unification. It's time to change PM. And if, at the same time, create a modernization potential for 50 years, then this will be ideal.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 5 August 2020 13: 04
        -7
        Why do you need a PP if there is an AKS-74U?
        1. Couchexpert
          Couchexpert 5 August 2020 13: 14
          -1
          The PP is needed for those who need the PP, and the AKS-74U is needed only by its manufacturers and cops-PPP-nicknames (you still won't have to shoot).
          1. Obliterator
            Obliterator 5 August 2020 13: 27
            +6
            Quote: CouchExpert
            and cops-PPS-nicknames (you won't have to shoot anyway).

            They don't need it either. Therefore, it is gradually changed to PP.
          2. Doliva63
            Doliva63 5 August 2020 19: 51
            +2
            Quote: CouchExpert
            The PP is needed for those who need the PP, and the AKS-74U is needed only by its manufacturers and cops-PPP-nicknames (you still won't have to shoot).

            What nonsense! You seem to have never had anything to do with the army? So that you know - from AKS-74U, the UKS exercise for 7,62 AKMS and 5,45 AKS, RPKS is just as easy! An irreplaceable weapon for all types of specialists (but you don't know who specialists are in the army, do you?). There were, of course, defective units, but for the most part - a cool thing.
        2. garri-lin
          garri-lin 5 August 2020 13: 25
          -2
          Well, not a fountain cannon. Not a fountain at all. Does not allow the implementation of the cartridge. Noisy. Heavy. There are many cons. Of the advantages, only ammunition unification.
        3. venik
          venik 5 August 2020 15: 59
          -1
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Why do you need a PP if there is an AKS-74U?

          ========
          Don't you guess?
    4. VIP
      VIP 5 August 2020 13: 12
      -2
      In fact, even before the Second World War, they wanted to change the TT for another pistol, but did not have time.
      PM-German Walter PPK. In 1945, Beria saw this pistol in Germany and liked it very much. Beria began to bother to create an analogue in his image
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 5 August 2020 21: 41
        0
        They wanted to replace the TT before the Second World War, trials in March 1939 won - PV - Voevodin pistol, empty weight 930g, length 230mm, 18 cartridges 7,62x25mm TT, rigid locking of the barrel with its short stroke. Produced 500-1500 pieces, the Second World War began and all work and projects to replace TT were curtailed.
    5. Obliterator
      Obliterator 5 August 2020 13: 36
      0
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Why change a wonderful PM for another pistol, and even with a different cartridge?

      Then, that progress does not stand still, well, PM, for all its advantages, is not at all devoid of disadvantages.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 5 August 2020 13: 57
        0
        And what are the disadvantages? In my opinion, only the inconvenient store latch from the bottom. A magazine for 12 rounds is quite enough.
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 5 August 2020 14: 22
          +2
          PM and PMM are different weapons. But it is strange that the PMM did not become widespread. Although with a reinforced cartridge, it looked very good today.
          1. alex aircraft
            alex aircraft 5 August 2020 14: 30
            +1
            The PMM cartridge is forbidden to use with PM because of the danger of destruction of the structure. Maybe that's why it didn't work. You can't shoot with a reinforced cartridge from the PP cedar, only from the PP wedge.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 5 August 2020 14: 58
              +1
              That is why I say that different weapons. If 25 years ago he went widely into the series and replaced the PM everything would be different. But now it is too late to implement it widely.
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 5 August 2020 14: 38
            0
            The reinforced cartridge was never adopted, more precisely, it was accepted, but not released, since there is a danger that this cartridge will be fired from the PM, which will lead to its breakdown and injury to the shooter.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 5 August 2020 14: 59
              +1
              A quarter of a century ago, it was necessary to switch from PM to PMM. Now it's too late.
          3. Alexfly
            Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 19
            0
            The CZ-82 was just produced under the PM cartridge, the Czechs themselves (understand correctly) made this cartridge with a larger weight of gunpowder, I believe by 20%. Probably PMM now.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 6 August 2020 13: 39
              0
              Good car for now. But if you adopt something modern. That one of the requirements should be the prospect of modernization.
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 5 August 2020 14: 30
          +1
          And when in the PM there was a store for 12 rounds ???
          1. alex aircraft
            alex aircraft 5 August 2020 14: 40
            +1
            PM 8 rounds PMM 12 rounds
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 5 August 2020 14: 42
            0
            has long been. from the early 90s or so
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 5 August 2020 15: 18
              +1
              Well, then it was necessary to write, a hundred at the PMM ... and the good old PM is 8 pieces, and a spare clip in a holster))) but during my service for 12 rounds I never saw it, even when they were going on a business trip and fired from all that is possible, it was not
        3. Obliterator
          Obliterator 5 August 2020 20: 47
          0
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          And what are the disadvantages? In my opinion, only the inconvenient store latch from the bottom. A magazine for 12 rounds is quite enough.

          Isn't that enough? And yes, he has 8 rounds in the store, not 12, and this is not enough by modern standards. PM is a purely police weapon, it is not enough for the army.
        4. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 5 August 2020 21: 47
          0
          Kuzma Kuzmich, for the PM there is a replaceable pad on the PM handle - inside there is a mechanism for changing the magazine with a button for the thumb of the shooting hand (price in the online store is 3520 rubles). Israeli firm Fab Defense.
    6. Keldysh Mstislav
      Keldysh Mstislav 5 August 2020 16: 00
      0
      At one time, the officers were very dissatisfied with the PMm. The photo shows an X-ray. And this person survived ... (I can not attach a photo ..).
    7. White AK
      White AK 5 August 2020 16: 17
      0
      PM has been used for a long time, this is archaism in all respects, for the army a weak cartridge, zero ergonomics, it is very difficult to shoot effectively without gloves in heat and cold, and it is stupidly outdated by about 30 years
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 August 2020 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      why change a beautiful PM for another pistol

      You still remember the excellent "Mosin's three-line". The hell out of inventing something better. request
  5. VIP
    VIP 5 August 2020 13: 20
    +1
    At my acquaintances I got into a conversation with the captain-cop, ugh the police, and he did not speak in print about Yarygin: the store can break down, but in
    such a gun?
  6. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 5 August 2020 13: 21
    +4
    I was surprised by the weight of the "Boa", without cartridges only 780 g, PM 730 g, Yarygin generally 950 g, while the "Boa" 18 charger in contrast to the PM, in my opinion a good army pistol, but I was holding Lebedev's pistol, more ergonomic no one has a pistol grip
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 5 August 2020 15: 35
      0
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      I was surprised by the weight of the "Boa", without cartridges only 780 g

      Polymer housing
  7. saygon66
    saygon66 5 August 2020 13: 25
    +3
    - It's interesting to look at the standard holster for this device ... With such sighting devices, you definitely can't put it in your pocket ... smile
    1. Obliterator
      Obliterator 6 August 2020 00: 22
      0
      Quote: saygon66
      - And the Boa constrictor - my deepest condolences to those who, on duty, will be forced to carry this "fool" on themselves ...

      Quote: saygon66
      It is interesting to look at the standard holster for this device ... With such sighting sights, you definitely can't put it in your pocket ...

      Well, in general, everything is learned in comparison. It's just that people are accustomed to a compact, well-suited PMU, which is a weapon for the police. After him, of course, many, though foreign, even domestic pistols seem too bulky. But this is exactly until the moment when some healthy American revolver weighing per kilogram, and a barrel length one and a half times longer than the PMV one, with which some units of the American police were on duty in the second half of the twentieth century, falls into the hands. I happened to hold one such Colt Trooper in my hands - a fierce, well-made, well-made cannon, after which the PM looks like a toy pistol. Owners of such civilian weapons, I would be very jealous, but as a service one - God forbid. And someone wore it for years.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 8 August 2020 17: 51
        0
        -I agree! Nevertheless, as soon as the opportunity arose to change the weapon to a lighter and more compact one, they immediately took advantage of it ... Even on a person of average height and weight, the same PYa looks impressive!
        - And then - Podbyrina's pistol drives! laughing
  8. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 5 August 2020 13: 29
    -13 qualifying.
    Return TT, or buy Glock
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 5 August 2020 13: 39
      +8
      Quote: Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
      Return TT, or buy Glock

      TT is only needed by collectors. Weapons of the last century.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 5 August 2020 14: 56
        -3
        - Why? Is ergonomics suffering? So this is fixable ... "Boa constrictor", by the way, works on the same Browning system ... as TT. But why are such dimensions?
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 5 August 2020 21: 49
          +1
          Quote: saygon66
          - Why? Is ergonomics suffering? So this is fixable ... "Boa constrictor", by the way, works on the same Browning system ... as TT. But why are such dimensions?

          TT has a lot of disadvantages, I don't even want to list. Very critical for a modern pistol.
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 5 August 2020 23: 18
            0
            - Perhaps ... I liked it ... Both 7.62 mm and 9 mm.
            - And the Boa constrictor - my deepest condolences to those who, on duty, will be forced to carry this "fool" on themselves ...
          2. Alexfly
            Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 25
            0
            Marconi41, I would like to know which ones, please specify? Except for the button and the lack of self-winding ...
            1. Marconi41
              Marconi41 6 August 2020 14: 47
              0
              Quote: AlexFly
              Marconi41, I would like to know which ones, please specify? Except for the button and the lack of self-winding ...

              If you've ever used it, you yourself should know. Yes, at least its fuse, to what you have already named. It's just awful. And God forbid you to drop it on a platoon. There is also a breakdown of the trigger ... In general, there is a lot of everything that is unacceptable for modern weapons.
              1. Alexfly
                Alexfly 6 August 2020 18: 22
                0
                And who makes you go from place to place in the shooting range with a cartridge in the table and stuffed with adrenaline? I have been using it for another 34 years and there were no problems, I didn't even fall out of my hands ...
                1. Marconi41
                  Marconi41 6 August 2020 19: 02
                  0
                  Quote: AlexFly
                  And who makes you go from place to place in the shooting range with a cartridge in the table and stuffed with adrenaline?

                  Excuse me, but I used the weapon not only in the shooting range.
    2. Alexfly
      Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 22
      0
      And you won't be that far from the truth ....
  9. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 5 August 2020 14: 17
    +3
    So the epic with the Yarygin pistol ended ingloriously? and who will be responsible for the money spent? and by the way, they haven’t been doing aks 74u in Tula for a long time. Instead Izhevsk churns out like 105, but there are almost none in the army.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 5 August 2020 21: 51
      0
      Quote: Alex aircraft
      So the epic with the Yarygin pistol ended ingloriously?

      And thank God. Amen.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 14: 25
    +4
    Eh, to shoot. I fired from Glock, fired from PM, GSh-18 (I liked the most) fired, TT, Colt 1911 .... But I didn't get it from Gyurza. Well, of the latter, Lebedeva, and Udav. Not available yet. A pistol is such a thing. He loves you (and you love him) and as an extension of the hand ... or not. Everything matters - height, hand size, features of physical development ... So what to discuss? If there are a lot of shooters, there will be a normal opinion. The theory here does not correlate well with reality ...
    1. Pamir
      Pamir 5 August 2020 22: 40
      0
      The opinion is not imposed, just personal, the Margolin pistol has not yet surpassed any in accuracy. In terms of destructive power, the options are the APS pistol or GSh18.
      Margolin, the ergonomics are pleasant, unambiguously, a pistol that is phenomenal in accuracy. A click, a little louder than air, you can forget about the recoil. Margolin is a pistol of athletes, they won gold many times. But there is an opinion that it was used in business, namely that Margolin performed the highest measure during the times of the USSR, there is almost no blood, the skull and brains are NOT shattered, all the same small caliber 5,6mm, and the accuracy is abound. But from him and from 25m the accuracy is amazing.
      The APS has the ability to conduct automatic fire, which is a big plus in a critical situation, destructive power, too. It is not for nothing that they love it in special forces.
      The GSh has a pleasant ergonomics, the kinetic speed of the bullet is more than 650m / s, it is almost a rifle one ... Not every armor can withstand, even if the armor does not pierce, it will beat off the internal organs, cutting out the body for some time. innovative.
      Others have not tried, I can not say the opinion is not against, not for. The law enforcement agencies and the Ministry of Defense, apparently the issue is in lobbying interests. If, for example, we had the fifth amendment to the constitution as in the United States, then Margolin and GSh- 18. But it's ideal that we don't have it, even a poker shoots once every ten years. For civilians, this is superfluous. The weapon may end up in the wrong hands.
      Opinion about pistols is purely personal, NOT an axiom.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 5 August 2020 23: 25
        0
        - The fifth amendment to the US Constitution states that a person. accused of a crime has the right to trial, etc., etc. wink
        1. Pamir
          Pamir 5 August 2020 23: 40
          0
          Excuse me, but what does this give? Let the second amendment, and we have a problem? In the numbers of amendments?
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 6 August 2020 10: 22
            0
            - In general, no ... Confused! wink
  11. Pamir
    Pamir 5 August 2020 22: 55
    0
    And by the way, why AKSU? For a long time there are submachine guns, for example, the native AEK-919 "Kashtan"? I didn’t shoot, but according to the characteristics it was very, even nothing.
  12. Adimius38
    Adimius38 6 August 2020 08: 27
    0
    when will they be on the shelves?
  13. Alexfly
    Alexfly 6 August 2020 12: 01
    0
    To begin with, we would make a civilian version, launch it at shooting ranges or sports shooters, eliminate all childhood diseases, and then production, again on the rake ... as with Yarygin, a lot of pancake, pancake, little boom-boom. . until now, massively in the troops ...
  14. Alexfly
    Alexfly 6 August 2020 18: 25
    0
    Probably, with such sighting devices, you will have to acquire a plastic or wooden holster, otherwise it will completely tear off everything ..
  15. Alexfly
    Alexfly 6 August 2020 18: 26
    0
    A simplified for civilian user "Gyurza" is not done?
  16. stroybat ZABVO
    stroybat ZABVO 6 August 2020 19: 28
    0
    Hi hi
    The "sights" of this pistol, judging by the photo, are, uh ... big. Aiming clearly with this weapon is better, but what about ..... cling? There is a whole sect of people who like to put them in their pants for a belt .... for an elastic band.