Pipe-laying barge Fortuna will not complete construction of Nord Stream 2

The Fortuna pipe-laying barge, on which they had pinned their hopes for the completion of Nord Stream 2, will not take part in laying the gas pipeline. The barge lessee does not accept and does not intend to take part in works in the Baltic Sea. Reported by RBC.

According to the statement of Fortuna's tenant Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy (MRTS), the company will not provide a barge for completing the gas pipeline. MRTS clarified that they never owned the barge, but rented it "under a bareboat charter agreement for use in other projects"

The company does not intend to provide the Fortuna pipe-laying barge to complete the construction of the Russian export gas pipeline Nord Stream 2, which has become a target of US sanctions. Joint Stock Company Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy does not accept and does not intend to take part in the laying of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea using the Fortuna pipe-laying barge or in any other way

- said in a statement to the company.

Thus, Russia has only one vessel left that can complete the construction of Nord Stream-2 - Akademik Chersky, but its use is also questionable due to difficulties with insurance.

Previously, Denmark allowed the operator to use the ship with anchor positioning, accompanied by a vessel with a dynamic positioning system, when completing the construction. The barge "Fortuna" was one of such ships.

Comments

[Karaul73]

Oh, another peremoga! Straight Mexican TV series of some kind.

[For example]

Mattresses have been bent cancer by businessmen in Russia.
Independence in its true light.

Oil is growing. The bucks are growing. Gas prices are rising.

Everything goes according to plan.

Only we don't know a damn about these plans.

[SRC P-15]

Joint Stock Company Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy does not accept and does not intend to take part in the laying of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea using the Fortuna pipe-laying barge or in any other way

The competent authorities urgently need to seize the documents of this joint stock company!

[Sergey V.]

Well, this is very unlikely. Considering which contractors Gazprom usually chooses for its large construction projects, there are always difficult owners. In Russia, they would rather raise the prices of all types of fuel than encroach on the property rights of the capitalists. So they will most likely try to buy out the ship. And given its exclusivity at a given moment in time, it will cost a very round sum. Well, the citizens-patriots of Russia will pay. And they will go to collect dead wood.

[For example]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

seize the documents of this joint stock company!

And with what fright someone should work for Gazprom.
Let the miller and his comrades work.
Money like a makhorka fool.
A bunch of oil pipelines.
And there is no own technique for building another pipe.

Think they can buy everything and everyone?
And here is a surprise from cod

Do you think the special services should force you to work for Gazprom?

It can make the secret services work the great super-duper managers who observable liquid.

[Artunis]

The competent authorities had to urgently and long ago carry out the planting of all members of the economic bloc of the government and the central bank of the Russian Federation with the seizure of all personal assets, and so all this is useless.

[mole]

Quote: Artunis

The competent authorities had to urgently and long ago carry out the planting of all members of the economic bloc of the government and the central bank of the Russian Federation with the seizure of all personal assets, and so all this is useless.

Most likely the Supreme does not allow !?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Mole

Most likely the Supreme does not allow !?

It was necessary to act there since the days of the Union.

[Courier]

Your sexes ... competent authorities already start up 300 thousand cases against entrepreneurs a year.

[Kisa]

oooh. this is a surprise. who would have believed a year ago. what did they just find out about it? about your charter plans? then herring, then cod, then Denmark ...

[Voyager]

It is not the dollar that is growing, but the ruble is falling.

[antivirus]

not Mexican, but German - Das ist fantastish

I'm more interested in the situation in Venezuela - how will the delay in Minsk affect? what are our friends preparing for us in Caracas (not Minsk)?
on gas - SP2 - small, only as an indicator of foreign policy relations with the Russian Federation of the world.
and there are many other projects, what are the successes there?
the refusal to exchange assets 15 years ago was already a failure (?) of Gazprom, but one thing helped - prices were high ...
Our monopolies did not become friends and did not enter the circle of the elect in Europe (they remained on the dance floor, a raw material appendage).

[Mouse]

German - Das East Fantastic

Porn....

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Mouse

but...

"I take off my shoes, then I put on my shoes -
I admire myself in the water "....

[orionvitt]

Quote: antivirus

German - Das East Fantastic

After all, this is for the Germans, for the most part the head should hurt. They need it more. And Russia will sell gas anyway, not through one pipeline, but through another. Here are just a lot of stench from different samostiinik. And through the SP-2, directly and cheaper and safer.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Sentry73

Straight Mexican TV series of some kind.

Don't be serious about some lending agents ...
Who gave the command to conclude a TUB lease agreement to this company, what did it build? And for what? It's just that now all the information about the completion of construction is not disclosed to reduce costs and speculators.
Maybe this Samaravodstroy, or whatever it is, will not participate, but there will be some other water-technical installation, to which the lease was assigned, or maybe there is already an office that controls the barge.

Quote: For example

Only we don't know a damn about these plans.

But the “general public” cannot and should not be aware of the plans in detail. Let's see the result. ... The position of Germany and Europe is important here. After all, they can refuse gas even with a completely built gas pipeline, we cannot force them to buy gas by force. And if they want supplies, then it is not the Samara company that can create obstacles.

[boss]

We accept rates for the completion of SP2.
It seems that in the near future they can finish laying the pipe, elections in the overseas regional committee, and even some by mail, so there will be no time for streams.

[Roman123567]

In a year or two they will complete the construction .. In 5 years they will launch ..

[Alex Justice]

In a year or two they will complete the construction .. In 5 years they will launch ..

During this time, you can build your new pipelayer, assign it to the village of Gadyukino and insure it in Siberia.

[boss]

For a passport from the Yakut offshore

[boss]

If not allowed or not allowed.
Sadness
The free economy is dancing "a gypsy with an exit" in front of politics.
It's good that the pipes are not white

[Lipchanin]

Quote: patron

It seems that in the near future they can finish laying the pipe,

What?

Thus, Russia has only one vessel left capable of completing the construction of Nord Stream-2 - Akademik Chersky. however, its use is also questionable due to difficulties with insurance.

[snucerist]

"It seems that in the near future they can finish laying the pipe ..."
Interesting - what?
Who will do it and by what means? Have Chersky's insurance problems only surfaced now? Even a child had guessed about them much earlier.
But even in the event of a happy ending, an even more difficult problem with the certification of the entire pipeline looms ahead. Who dares to take up this case and instantly fly under the sanctions? Reset your reputation and bank accounts?
And in the case of an even more successful haepi-end, where are the guarantees that the States will not impose such sanctions on German companies (for the same EUGAL), that it will be more profitable for companies to disown SP-2 and lose money spent?
In short, the threat of the sword of Damocles (or the copper basin?) Looming over the SP-2 is quite real.
By the way, is Chersky already fully equipped for laying pipes of this diameter? When? Where? By whom?

[yuratanja1950]

Quote: snucerist

Even a child had guessed about them much earlier.

As well as the fact that cod spawning occurs from February to May (depending on the water areas-regions) ...
Even from my kitchen, the problems of ALL of these flows were visible ... However, highly effective managers could not calculate the negative options with either the Turks, the Bulgarians, or the Chinese - and with no one at all !!!
The worst thing is that none of these managers are responsible for the profiled billions and trillions of money wrappers to anyone ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: yuratanja1950

highly efficient managers

Well yes ! Judging by the amounts received .... Only good from them-even not zero, but a minus!

[Avior]

The further the more wonderful.
Why was Denmark asked to use it, the unfortunate cod was rushed with spawning, all the buzz with spawning was broken for it?

[Snail N9]

Cool. Why, then, was she "driven"? That is, someone just brought it there (for fun) and then decided that they would not use it? In other words, I received money for the haul and then .... and then what? Have you decided to use it in another project (less sanctionally dangerous)? Or, at the expense of Gazprom, they simply solved the problem of relocating to a more "promising region in terms of contracts for work"?

[Roman123567]

Perhaps, while they were driving, they hoped for something .. Then new useful sanctions .. and the company changed their minds ..
I know they will minus (after all, brave patriots believe that no one is afraid of sanctions in our country) .. but let someone suggest a better version ..

[alexmach]

let someone suggest a better version.

It feels like giveaway is being played. Or very cleverly confusing traces.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Roman123567

Perhaps while they were driving - they hoped for something

Russian "maybe" is eternal.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Snail N9

Cool. Why, then, was she "driven"? That is, someone just brought her there (for fun)

Nobody dragged this barge there! She was in a German port. And they brought the pipelayer Akademik Chersky from the Far East.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Snail N9

Why, then, was she "driven"?

"Persecuted" Academician Chersky

[Snail N9]

So it seems that "Chersky" that .... does not fit? And they drove him, notably, confusing the "tracks" accompanying the Navy .... it turns out that in vain?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Snail N9

So it seems that "Chersky" that .... does not fit?

It was "Fortune" that did not fit. Because of "Chersky" and drove.

[Avior]

Now it turned out that Fortune is suitable, but they changed their minds to use it

[Sergey V.]

I think they are trading at a price now. Gazprom, through some legal entity, will buy this barge. Only it will be sooo expensive.

[Nastia makarova]

It’s very strange that the growth of the company slows down, can’t it be influenced?

[APASUS]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

It’s very strange that the growth of the company slows down, can’t it be influenced?

This is a gasket company in order not to substitute Gazprom.

[Nastia makarova]

if the gasket then why blocks the use of fortune?

[APASUS]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

if the gasket then why blocks the use of fortune?

Gazprom did not ask, but simply notified. The essence of carpet games is not clear, but maybe they want to stir up something for themselves?

[Nastia makarova]

it's clear, but it doesn't say who is the owner of the fortune

[APASUS]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

it's clear, but it doesn't say who is the owner of the fortune

And so everyone knows who

[Nastia makarova]

who?))) tell me a secret

[APASUS]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

who?))) tell me a secret

Gazprom

[Nastia makarova]

he himself stepped on one place ????

[Igorpl]

Mrts leases a barge. Without the permission of the owner it cannot.

[Nastia makarova]

and the owner of Gazprom

[Igorpl]

The barge is most likely European

[Nastia makarova]

no)))) Gazprom barge and in order not to fall under sanctions they are now starting to sell the company to the gasket

[APASUS]

Quote: Igorpl

Mrts leases a barge. Without the permission of the owner it cannot.

See what the Internet gave out:

Type: Pipelayers
Place of construction: Shanghai Zhenhua Heavy Industries China Shanghai
Build No.: ZPMC1018
Laid down: 2.06.2009
Launched: 14.11.2009/XNUMX/XNUMX
Built: 15.07.2010
Postscript: Hong Kong
Owner: OAO MezhRegionTruboprovodStroy / MRTS Russia
Registration: ABS
Register number: 10208383
Class formula: ✠A1, Barge
Callsign: VRGV5
MMSI: 477770600
Current Status: Operated

Looks like MezhRegionTruboprovodStroy muddy the waters, bargaining with Gazprom?

[Igorpl]

Such things are usually sold on lease and it becomes yours after the end of the contract, and before that the property of the bank.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

It’s very strange that the growth of the company slows down, can’t it be influenced?

You will ask Deripaska this. By the way, Russian aluminum is no longer Russian

[Nastia makarova]

it has long been a private company !!! who owns the shares is not important

[Nastia makarova]

yes, we have forgotten about him for a long time))) why remember, and we would have forgotten about Deripaska if he was not often mentioned in the news
and what about Boeing, who is stopping you from buying at least one share, there would be money
but in general, if you count it, it turns out that almost nothing belongs to Russia, everything has long been private except for some defense enterprises

[akarfoxhound]

To buy something imported, they have to sell it to us. The Germans have an auto concern about 15 years ago, the Americans blocked for sale to the Russians. I don't remember if it was an Audi or what

[Nastia makarova]

Of course, 50% of the shares will not be sold, but a part can be bought

[Cyril G ...]

Opel it was

[Thunderbolt]

Thus, Russia has only one vessel left that can complete the construction of Nord Stream-2 - Akademik Chersky, but its use is also questionable due to difficulties with insurance.

And what is the problem with insurance? Who knows?

[Cristall]

Quote: Thunderbolt

And what is the problem with insurance? Who knows?

in short sanctions
Without insurance they will not be allowed to work
And no one will give insurance, because they will fall under the sanctions.
Vicious circle
And special insurance is needed

[Thunderbolt]

Clear ________________

[Ilshat]

Have Russian insurers been canceled ?!

[Roman123567]

Well, yes .. we are all used to the fact that in such cases Gazprom creates all sorts of gaskets for itself, sells ships to itself, registers insurers to itself a la "Pisyabayprodaksion", and insures itself with them ..
But it doesn't work like that with the west ..))

[Nastia makarova]

while rolling because until Gazprom is under sanctions

[Rustam Sadriev]

Russian company refuses? Pomoymu owners quite already .... Okay they steal, with taxes muddied with contracts, so even now they lie under the ovs.

[AnderS]

so also now they lie under the ovs.

So Russian companies are doing just that - do you want Rusal to remind you how it was squeezed from Deripaska? The same thing is happening now with GAZrm.

[Roman123567]

Tell this to Sberbank and personally to Gref ..))
Why did they go under the creditors and do not open branches in Crimea ..

[Nastia makarova]

there are gasket banks, does it matter what the bank is called

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Roman123567

Tell this to Sberbank and personally to Gref ..))
Why did they go under the creditors and do not open branches in Crimea ..

Do you personally need sanctions against Sberbank or against Gazprom?

[stalki]

Something is not clear, do they want to finish building or not? With this approach, it all looks extremely unconvincing. Are they blown away or what? Are the sanctions working?

[7,62x54]

This is always the case, it is worth digging and it turns out that the intermediary is sitting on the intermediary. Or maybe you should conclude a lease agreement directly with the owner of the barge? To overpay Malyokh from above, to kill the contract with MRTS?

[Ilshat]

Confiscate for the satisfaction of state and public interests.

[7,62x54]

It is still unknown who is the owner of the vessel.

[Moskovit]

A multi-billion dollar project arose from one vessel. We need to deal with this Mezhdunostroy. I cannot imagine that such an outrage could have happened in the Soviet years.

[AnderS]

We need to deal with this Mezhdunostroy.

Who will deal with them? There, Puten's solid friends are sitting on top of each other, and he, as you know, does not give up his accomplices.

[Ilshat]

Oh, in the Soviet years, nothing like that could happen at all, the pipelines were built ahead of schedule, despite the fact that there were also sanctions ...
Just why remember ...

[Sergey V.]

This is because the members of the Politburo had no assets behind the Iron Curtain. Well, now freedom, friendship, gum.

[Junior Private]

Under the USSR, the United States also tried to pursue a sanctions policy by banning the sale of pipes for polymer business. But France, and even England, simply spat on American requests. With the USSR, no one even wanted to give reasons for political quarrels.

[Mouse]

Obviously someone paid more ...

[Pereira]

If this is not the finish line, then somewhere nearby.

[Mountain shooter]

Incomprehensible movement. It goes without saying that this "muzhduchegotostroy" should be included in the list of "unscrupulous". And what to do with humiliation?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Incomprehensible movement. It goes without saying that this "muzhduchegotostroy" should be included in the list of "unscrupulous". And what to do with humiliation?

Yes, everything goes as always in the world of maritime business, nothing new. Well, as for humiliation, this is not provided for in the business world, there are only profits or losses.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, as for humiliation, this is not provided for in the business world, there are only profits or losses.

And the country?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the country?

Business and country are different categories. The country it always remains a country, and the maritime business is completely private.

[Ilshat]

What the fuck ?!
Why was she driven then?
Where is the notorious "vertical", causing extreme irritation of the people?
Stink the whole country, but they can't bend a couple of bourgeois ?!

[Nastia makarova]

so Chersky was driven and not fortune

[Ilshat]

She was just driven out earlier, in October.

[Nastia makarova]

there were no sanctions in October

[Ilshat]

It's clear!
Another thing is not clear - with what kind of joy our bosses shout at all corners that sanctions are not terrible, that they do not affect any other such nonsense ?!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ilshat

She was just driven out earlier, in October.

She herself came on her own.

[Ilshat]

It is not self-propelled, it seems ...

[tralflot1832]

The pipeline and Chersky will be completed with the barge of course faster. I will emphasize the seditious thought, the barge is being prepared for sale, they do not want to impose sanctions on it, with sanctions it will go at the price of scrap metal. It is no longer needed in the Baltic. flows are expensive for themselves. Chersky will be left in the Baltic, and on Sakhalin they will probably buy a new one. But there is a reason to dig about the FSB in this matter. Marina did not look at the traffic, where is Chersky?

[Serge Yuzhanin]

And what will the Chersky do in the Baltic after the completion of the SP-2 (if it happens at all)? ..

[tralflot1832]

They will leave for service, it is self-propelled and satellite positioning is. 4 lines of gas pipelines, work will be done.

[Kisa]

Is it technically possible to run a pipe without a barge? ... if the Academician goes back and forth for 100 km of pipes ... but the pipe is boiled on the deck like this? is it necessary to heat it every time?

[tralflot1832]

Chersky does not need to run after the pipes. For this they drove two supply vessels behind them. And without noise, they came and came. They will run after the pipes. Chersky is still in Mukran at the pier. We are waiting for the exit from them.

[parusnik]

Oh, how it turned out ... in principle, it is clear, the ship is leased, the shipowner, the one who leased the ship, does not need trouble ...

[Genry]

Quote: parusnik

the shipowner, the one who leased the ship, does not need trouble ...

Trouble is bullshit compared to "world democracy"!

[Nastia makarova]

As it turned out, the ship belongs to Gazprom and he leased it to this company, now it will be sold to a gasket company and that's all

[tihonmarine]

MRTS clarified that they never owned the barge, but rented it "under a bareboat charter agreement for use in other projects"

The charterer of the MRTS, but who is the charterer of this "Fortune". But one thing is clear that it is he who is afraid of US sanctions, and with the consent of the MRTS to participate in the completion of Stream-2, the freighter will break the freight. (the contract always contains a clause on the premature termination of the freight).

[Nastia makarova]

as it turned out, the ship belongs to Gazprom))))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

as it turned out the ship belongs to Gazprom

Well, so far nowhere specifically is it said who the original owner of "Fortuna", as the same MRTS, said that the barge is in bareboat charter. But since they do not agree to put it into operation, it means that the ship owner is not in Russia.

[Nastia makarova]

here the article does not say))) but I was told by one of our members of the forum, but in general you can google and find

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

but I was told by one of our members of the forum, but in general you can google and find

Look, I didn't find it.

[Nastia makarova]

I found that the owner of the barge Fortuna is Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

"Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy"

This is a charterer only. But when the ship is chartered, he is nominally the ship owner, but in reality, this is the legal entity for whom the sale and purchase documents are drawn up. In the "Fortuna" situation, she is in "bareboat charter" at MRTS. This means this company is a nominal owner, with ransom of this vessel. The right of redemption is negotiated upon signing the charter document. Naturally, no one will tell us about reservations, there are no bad ones. Well, data on the vessel is easy to find.
IMO: 8674156
Call Sign: VROG3
MMSI: 477770600
The first number is the number from birth and for life.
Second radio call sign from the flag country.
The third identification number (Maritime Mobile Service Identity) shows that this is Hong Kong.
So from here you have to dance. It's just that no one goes under a false flag. They always confuse everything. I hope there is no need to explain further.

[soul]

Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy (MRTS) is understandably afraid of secondary sanctions. In my opinion, it would be more logical to buy Fortuna from a company participating in the project and already under sanctions when new sanctions are purple.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: alma

In my opinion, it would be more logical to buy Fortuna from a company participating in the project and already under sanctions when new sanctions are purple.

Well, "Fortune" is in a bareboat charter, but the owner does not want to sell it, or they do not give it, threatening with sanctions.

[VB]

Bravo, Putin and his friends! The South Stream is covered, the North is in doubt, the Power of Siberia, don't understand that, the diamond mine in Mirny was flooded by the son of Putin's friend, a colleague on the hockey team destroyed the nature of the Russian North and will not pay, and in Norilsk he created unbearable living conditions, Deputy Stepan buries waste from the oil industry through the forests, billions of money flow away from the cordon, tons of gold are taken out, when everything is bought up, they are preparing for a crisis. Karaulov held a vote - 2% confidence in the president and his entire vertical. What will remain for the children and grandchildren of the Russian people? Memories of the taiga cut down and taken to China? Is the polluted desert a Russian land? The question arises, is it not time for them to answer for everything in full?

[Nastia makarova]

why the southern one was covered ??? or rather not southern but Turkish !!! just temporarily now Turkey does not need so much gas, and Europe too, all because of quarantine

[Comrade Michael]

They just laid 2 more gas pipelines from Qatar and Azerbaijan ... And they began to develop the Mediterranean shelf.

[Nastia makarova]

Well, the demand for gas in the world is small now, especially since they built a Turkish gas not only for Turkey, but for transit further

[Comrade Michael]

Nobody wants to deal with us in order to quarrel with the United States ... The United States is stronger and more influential in the economy and other issues. This is reality.

[Nastia makarova]

however, they have a case))) Germany thinks differently if no one had any business then to whom do we sell gas and oil ???

[Fungus]

If JV 2 is completed, how will you otmazyvatsya? And the Power of Siberia 2, by the way, will also be built. The first six months on tests if that.

[Sasha Minakov]

Nice houses and cities! Much better than those garbage dumps that got from the full-time scoop. And you teeth are not rocks. Completed.

[Livonetc]

An insured solution is the most easily solvable problem, determined by the allocation of the appropriate amount.
Even if any of the largest insurance companies are bent into an arthropod position.
In this matter, money will always find its owner.
And the fuss in the media about the complexities of dignity is a normal background.
Including for drawing up reports to the relevant American officials.
Don't corner the rats altogether.
Otherwise, they will begin to make even more aggressive attempts to disrupt.

[Pavel57]

Yes, the Germans will ensure that SP-1 is 100% full.

[rotmistr60]

Denmark allows work to continue and Russian the company suddenly refuses to provide a barge for work. How should this be regarded? As sabotage or direct economic and political damage to the country? In my opinion, it already does not climb into any gate. Large private business has completely lost its bearings. As an economic crisis, so they run to the government tearfully begging for help, as the interests of the country, so it is possible to the side, and then suddenly the "great" Americans will painfully punish.

[Nastia makarova]

the ship simply belongs to Gazprom and in order not to fall under the sanctions now it will be sold and it will continue construction

[Shadow041]

It's time for Russia to impose sanctions against firms that comply with US sanctions against the Russian Federation. You cannot serve two gods. Oppress under the USA, in the USA and work, in the Russian Federation you have nothing to do.

[Comrade Michael]

It never will. NEVER.

[sen]

These dances with tambourines around SP-2. Is there really no master who would build and quickly build everyone? Or while gas prices are low and low consumption is especially slow?

[pavelty]

This Fortune can be bought ...

[Nastia makarova]

it already belongs to Gazprom))))

[Region68]

The Gas and Oil Patriots are in trouble again.

[Alexga]

Why be surprised? When the state, the great State was turned into an Open Joint Stock Company with a large share of foreign capital. So it turned out that there is no one to defend the interests of this state.

[Coward]

I wonder why the article from RBC was squeezed onto VO? Why didn't they take it from Vesti? But they write completely different information there.

Barge "Fortuna" for the completion of "Nord Stream-2" has changed its owner.
The Russian company Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy (MRTS) does not provide the Fortuna pipe-laying barge for completing the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline and does not participate in the project.
"Fortuna" was part of the MRTS fleet and was listed on the company's website as part of its fleet. Now the barge has been withdrawn from the MRTS fleet and is not on the list. As the company explained, the barge was rented. "I have nothing to add," a company representative told Vesti.Ru.

https://www.vesti.ru/finance/article/2436892
Apparently there was an order to "throw".

[Comrade Michael]

Even of all the cunning plans, only one works, deception and extortion from its citizens ...

[silverura]

Don't whine, better remember - the dashing 90s, there was life there. I would go to the USSR!

[Comrade Michael]

Che to me to remember. I lived normally and earned honestly. He walked day and night through his village without fear. There were no bars on the windows and iron doors .... Did you miss something? Only hucksters, scammers and thugs pounded, they were in demand ...

[silverura]

The barge lessee does not accept and does not intend to take part in works in the Baltic Sea.

In the course of the next throw without any consequences. This pun, Nord Stream, turns into a cheap circus. If I’m going to pump up 100 grams, maybe he’ll let me go.

[evgen1221]

And what were the (patriots) shouting about completing the construction, etc.? It seems that the fig was swimming there. Yet now there are private traders, stocks, etc. And how did you build the union? Than to pay pshekam is it not easier to redeem a ship into state property and under protection if the piss is completed? One fig at the time of completion of construction will run over the Germans and they either refuse to buy or roll out another penalty for a gas pipeline that was not built on time and in general we have green energy and gas in Europe is unnecessary (our gas). In general, the general plan is for the gas pipeline to cost us as long and expensive as possible, preventing us from spending and earning money for the population - only the population does not get anything in fact. 10-15% of income from the sale of hydrocarbons would allow at least medicine to the world level in the country to raise, and this is health and new slaves, after all.

[Nastia makarova]

nobody cancels construction !!!

[Fibrizio]

If we increase spending on medicine, we need to cut down on wishlist for tanks and aircraft, we have few of them, just over 10 thousand, and most importantly, they are useful, the economy grows from their construction, every year they stand idle in hangars or for a month they make a profit ... The bigger, the better.
This project will not pay off even in several decades. It is rather not an investment, but a struggle for the market. Politics. Economically, it has not been profitable for a long time.

[evgen1221]

Will you eat the tank? Or a pack of cartridges will heal you?

[Fibrizio]

This is a sarcasm on the theme of HurrayPatriots that "only a strong army will save the country", and everything else is secondary.
Nobody says that it is unnecessary to have it, but there are obvious imbalances.

[aleks26]

VO is lying that the information would be overweight, it sounds correctly "The lessee of the pipe-laying barge Fortuna, which is capable of completing Nord Stream 2, does not accept and does not intend to take part in the laying of a gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea, RBC reports. may not take part in the work, but the barge is easy. A thousand ways, termination of a lease, sublease ... in the end, bankruptcy of tenants. So do not write with boiling water, everything will be fine.

[ZVS]

Maybe this will somehow help so that Putin does not end up selling all of Russia? And Gazprom fell for huge bucks with both this Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream. Therefore, they raise gas prices for the Russian population in order to compensate for losses on foreign markets. Super-icebreakers are being built, helicopter carriers have laid the foundation, and the shameful cannot build the second barge!

[Fibrizio]

It's just that the barge must have a high-precision filling, which is not in our country, and much equipment is under sanctions. This former ship had a propeller shaft and floated forward or backward. Now almost all of them have rudder drives. I'm not sure at all that they are made here. With such things, the ship floats in any direction without changing the position of the hull, even sideways, even obliquely. The second point is positioning, our equipment provides positioning with insufficient accuracy.
These are just 2 reasons why it is easier to build a warship. There, the quality assessment is very abstract.
And then, if the tolerances did not meet the point or course holding, the pipes broke, and that was all, the pipes were under water.
It is important for such a barge to be able to hover at one point in any storm.
I am "slightly" in the subject, maybe my office ordered icebreakers-rescuers from the Germans to work on the Prirazlomnaya.
Not so simple.
The building will build and, but there is a problem with the filling. Designing in Russia is also not always smooth. There were cases that the project was reworked already at the construction stage.

[petrol cutter]

You are sorry, contradict yourself.
No propeller-driven installation, even plus a bow thruster in the nose, will keep you in place in a storm.
In addition, if I understood correctly from the article, we are talking specifically about the work permit for vessels with blunt anchor positioning.

[Fibrizio]

The storm is different. Of course, the stronger the storm, the higher the class of equipment. But of course there is a limit. Propeller shafts are not installed on modern ships at all, as on old ships, for example, they simply have 4 such columns in different parts of the hull, for example, in pairs in front and behind.
And my comment is addressed to the person above who expressed the thesis.
And you probably did not understand what a rudder column is. This is a full-fledged 360 degree rotating propeller.

[petrol cutter]

I understand what a rudder propeller is.
With the thesis about the rejection of propeller shafts ... I'm afraid you got excited. On all ships and ships that I build there are old / good shafts with screws.
The only difference is the screws.
Where speed is not needed, the screws are ordinary.
Where it is faster - cavitating / supercavitating.

[ZVS]

Apparently you have not read that Denmark is allowed to use the anchor positioning of the pipelayer and the barge. That is why she allowed that they do not have thrusters and positioning systems.

[Narcologist]

What kind of 100 km are left and such obstacles and hysteria ... Do you guys think we will finish building this gas pipeline?
I think we will finish the construction, this is a matter of principle .. Denmark has already given the go-ahead, but again obstacles.

[Dzafdet]

Guys, don't worry. Miller and his comrades will manually cook the pipes themselves and lay them on the bottom ...

[Vasyan1971]

I wonder what are the rates for SP2?
Surely they are made?

[petrol cutter]

What a twist...
And why the hell do I need such a "fortune" and such a "pipeline" ?!
Campaign is called, played in democracy / capitalism. For that fought for it and ran. Here is a vision from the field.

[Klingon]

Quote: Sergey Viktorovich

This is because the members of the Politburo had no assets behind the Iron Curtain. Well, now freedom, friendship, gum.

Well, yes, that's what happens when the body is in Russia and the eggs are over the hill and they can always be stepped on by making a bobo or even castrating

[good]

This blizzard in the network has already gotten.
The company is not the owner of Fortuna and can broadcast anything.
And "Akademik Chersky" is no longer listed in the documents of "Gazprom"
Like Gazprom's handler, Fortune was removed from the sanctions and that's all. They will probably soon find themselves in a specially created state enterprise.
There is a permit, you can throw pipes further.
And gloating and dissatisfied can disperse.