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Georgian Ambassador to Israel: We warned in 2008 that after Georgia Russia will move on

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Georgian Ambassador to Israel: We warned in 2008 that after Georgia Russia will move on

The Georgian ambassador to Israel spoke about the events of August 2008. We are talking about the events that Lasha Zhvania called the war with Russia.


To begin with, let us recall that on August 8, 2008, on the opening day of the Summer Olympic Games in Beijing, Georgian troops fired at the location of the Russian peacekeepers and entered Tskhinvali. In response to this Georgian operation, the order for which was given by Mikhail Saakashvili with the approval of Washington (which he himself has repeatedly stated), Russian troops moved to South Ossetia. The Georgian army was driven out of the republic, Saakashvili chewed a red tie in front of the camera, fearing for his fate, but the RF Armed Forces did not go to Tbilisi. As you know, at that time most of the Western media announced "Russian aggression", while practically no one told how it all began. It all started with the fact that Georgian troops covered Tskhinval and the base of the Russian peacekeeping contingent with Grads.

Now, giving an interview to The Jerusalem Post, the Georgian ambassador to Israel, Mr. Zhvania, has decided to “forget” about this. Without naming the reasons why the Russian army ended up on Georgian territory, the ambassador states that in 2008 Georgia "warned Europe that Georgian territory would not be the only one for Russian aggression", that "Russia will move further after Georgia."

According to Lasha Zhvania, "the war between Russia and Ukraine for Crimea continues."

Zhvania:

This war is a threat to security in Europe.

An interesting statement ... This is exactly where Russia is “at war” with Ukraine “for Crimea”? One gets the impression that the Georgian ambassador has finally lost touch with reality.

According to the Georgian ambassador to Israel, for 12 years Russia has been "seeking to re-escalate the conflict, annually pushing the border several meters, or even hundreds of meters."
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 07: 01 New
    15
    In a parallel reality, Georgia is generally a victim of aggression, and Russia is at war with Ukraine "for Crimea" on Alpha Centauri. laughing
    1. Maz
      Maz 5 August 2020 07: 28 New
      10
      Sho do you want? Sho the elite of Israel, sho the government of Georgia and the bandos of Ukraine are Washington jackals. What the owners say they do.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 August 2020 07: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Maz
        Sho do you want? Sho the elite of Israel, sho the government of Georgia and the bandos of Ukraine are Washington jackals. What the owners say they do.

        And you continue to subsidize the Israeli government, your daughter served here in the army, and your grandchildren will speak Russian badly. Here is fate, and Maz. lol
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 5 August 2020 09: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Maz
          Sho do you want? Sho the elite of Israel, sho the government of Georgia and the bandos of Ukraine are Washington jackals. What the owners say they do.

          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          And you continue to subsidize the Israeli government, your daughter served here in the army, and your grandchildren will speak Russian badly. Here is fate, and Maz.


          You would have left your Jewish showdown outside the forum yes .
          1. borberd
            borberd 5 August 2020 16: 00 New
            0
            He is a generous Ukrainian. It has to do with Jews only by the fact that he caught a tremp to Israel. He prefers to spend money on his native nenka. And at the VO forum he is a "Russian patriot". This is such a controversial phenomenon entot MAZ.
        2. Wolf
          Wolf 5 August 2020 10: 52 New
          +2
          The fact that she served well in the Israeli army, and why will the grandchildren not speak Russian? Just if the grandmother does not teach her grandchildren, but doubts?
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 5 August 2020 18: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          And you continue to subsidize the Israeli government, your daughter served here in the army, and your grandchildren will speak Russian badly. Here is fate, and Maz.

          I look here "Israeli readers" in the course of such nuances, graze bloggers?
        4. Maz
          Maz 6 August 2020 09: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Maz
          Sho do you want? Sho the elite of Israel, sho the government of Georgia and the bandos of Ukraine are Washington jackals. What the owners say they do.

          And you continue to subsidize the Israeli government, your daughter served here in the army, and your grandchildren will speak Russian badly. Here is fate, and Maz. lol

          Since you are spitting poison like that, our dear golden aronchik, then I understand everything correctly and I have this Israel in full, as you need to have cunningly done always and everywhere.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 6 August 2020 11: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: Maz

            Since you are spitting poison like that, our dear golden aronchik, then I understand everything correctly and I have this Israel in full, as you need to have cunningly done always and everywhere.

            How do you have Israel? You pay taxes here. VAT on all purchases here. For utilities is also here. I gave my daughter to Israel. So how is your "fuck" expressed?
            1. Maz
              Maz 6 August 2020 11: 06 New
              0
              As I want it and I have, you are far from brilliant. So, the middle peasant is three-point and cowardly.
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 6 August 2020 12: 45 New
                0
                Quote: Maz
                As I want it and I have, you are far from brilliant. So, the middle peasant is three-point and cowardly.

                You are hollow. All your "courage" is exclusively on the Internet. And in real life you will not voice your thoughts not only with acquaintances, but even with your daughter.
        5. Astra wild
          Astra wild 6 August 2020 13: 55 New
          +1
          Colleague Aron, I see at your "poking": two explanations 1) you and Maz are old acquaintances; 2) in Israel there are other concepts of politeness
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 6 August 2020 16: 40 New
            0
            Quote: Astra wild
            Colleague Aron, I see at your "poking": two explanations 1) you and Maz are old acquaintances; 2) in Israel there are other concepts of politeness

            In Hebrew there is no reference to "you".
      2. 5-9
        5-9 5 August 2020 09: 33 New
        +1
        Nuuuu ... in Washington and the surrounding area, many regularly speak out that it is the United States that rules the Israeli lobby :)))
    2. Finches
      Finches 5 August 2020 07: 37 New
      22
      I, like that one genatswale, said that if in 2008, in the place of Russia, there were the United States, then in the place of Tbilisi now only archeologists would work, digging in the ruins in search of knights in tiger skins ... To which he exclaimed "Mom I swear! " and rushed off somewhere! Apparently digest the information received ... laughing And we are kind - we stopped! And in an amicable way, this Jvania, like others from the leadership of the republic, should have been hung in feng shui along the entire Rustaveli Avenue for the edification of descendants!
      1. Narcologist
        Narcologist 5 August 2020 16: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        I, like that one genatswale, said that if in 2008, in the place of Russia, there were the United States, then in the place of Tbilisi only archaeologists would now work, digging in the ruins in search of knights in tiger skins ... To which he exclaimed "Mom I swear! " and rushed off somewhere!

        Thank you Eugene. hi .You made my tonight! laughing good I will laugh for a long time and I need to remember drinks lol
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 5 August 2020 18: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        I, like that one genatsvale, said - that if in 2008, in the place of Russia were the United States,

        The United States would have worked to be proactive, and a question to our intelligence, did they not know that the Georgians were plotting in South Ossetia? The movement of troops was in a week, maybe they were waiting for our offensive from the Georgians for the subsequent rejection of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, as they say, and provocation is not needed, Saakashvili himself "brought" these lands, and as a result, what is needed - Georgia, the way to NATO is closed.
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 5 August 2020 07: 53 New
      +5
      No wonder they have legalized marijuana. I had a smoke.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 August 2020 09: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In a parallel reality, Georgia is generally a victim of aggression, and Russia is at war with Ukraine "for Crimea" on Alpha Centauri. laughing

      It may be so, but ... the shelling of our peacekeepers, under the normal government and the president (and not the president), should have ended with the entry of our units into Tbilisi, followed by a drive to Moscow by Saakashvili's nostrils. This did not happen, since we were, like, forced to peace, although, if we do not use the moronic language of new managers, sponsors and aligarhs, it was a war. And for me, if in 2008 there was rigidity and the will of our helmsmen, with the distribution of luli to NATO fosterlings, perhaps the Donbass did not burn for 6 years. So who lives in parallel reality, us or them? A LADY for his companionship should be judged in 2008, and not kept in leadership positions.
      As for Ukraine, there is no special decisiveness and will, and never has been. The story with the Crimea was necessary, and only for this reason what was done was done. Russia is making territorial claims from all sides, but when will we start talking about OUR territorial claims, at least for a start, against Ukraine?
      They may live there on Alpha Centauri, but in fact, the real puppeteers are not sitting in Kiev. And if you have forgotten, 30 years ago it was our land, and our brotherly people. And what have we done so that there is no war on our land and the adversary does not sit in the government of the fraternal republic? We didn’t do a damn thing! As well as in the history of Georgia in fact. They forced, but NATO bases are now being built there on our borders ...
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 5 August 2020 07: 03 New
    +2
    In what place is Russia “at war” with Ukraine “for Crimea”?

    As where? In Donbass lol
    They have always been bad with both geography and logic.
    1. Alex 2020
      Alex 2020 5 August 2020 08: 12 New
      +2
      That's for sure. I took a map (suddenly I don’t know) and looked at where Chruziya is and where is Europe ....... well, yes, well, yes ... that's right, the Arctic is closer to Europe. laughing
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 5 August 2020 08: 16 New
        +2
        No wonder. They have zaluzhniki as teachers. And they are notable geographers. Presidents in Austria are looking for kangaroos laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 August 2020 12: 20 New
          +5
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And they are notable geographers. Presidents in Austria are looking for kangaroos

          Which, in turn, gave rise to a special meme in Austria, and gave impetus to the development of a whole business industry around it (which, as practice has shown, is quite in demand and profitable):







  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 5 August 2020 07: 06 New
    +4
    , annually pushing the border several meters

    One millimeter a day laughing
    Calipers measure laughing
  4. Dimy4
    Dimy4 5 August 2020 07: 08 New
    +4
    One gets the impression that the Georgian ambassador has finally lost touch with reality.

    He did not lose anything, he just pours de ... mo on us, as ordered, or to be noticed and taken for constant contentment.
  5. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 August 2020 07: 09 New
    +2
    Separatism in any form and regardless of the reasons that gave rise to it is a lousy thing. It all works slowly, not everyone likes it. There is nothing to be done here, alas ...
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 5 August 2020 07: 45 New
      11
      Separatism worked perfectly in relation to the USSR, which was actively promoted by the same Georgians (by the way, who did not want to think what would happen next) and Ukrainians, who for some reason were extremely surprised when separatism began to work against them. Against the Georgians at once, because the Ossetians and Abkhazians immediately quite reasonably asked, and we are red and took up arms.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 5 August 2020 08: 07 New
        -20
        To search for the truth here at VO, among the multitude of patriotically "imprisoned" characters, in matters relating to interethnic relations in the post-Soviet space, and in fact concerning the whole world, is a bad thing. In the majority, either the "pioneer dawn" is playing in their heads, or "nightingale droppings" are deposited in a deep layer. Therefore, they do not have access to an emotionless, "sober" understanding of what happened in Georgia and the causes of the Ossetian-Abkhaz-Georgian conflict, and hence its consequences for all parties. For them, everything rests on the "merriment" from the memory of Sahaki chewing a tie .... and the fact that Russia, they say, correctly defended the "oppressed", avenging its peacekeepers ... Look deeper into the causes and consequences, into what it has lost and Russia received as a result of its actions in Georgia, it is too difficult for them, and not accessible - ("nightingale" layers in the brain interfere) ..... By the way, Georgia is now developing quite successfully. In any case, my acquaintances IT-schnicks re-registered their company there and left the whole family for Georgia from a happy, "up from their knees", "harmoniously developing" Russia.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 5 August 2020 08: 53 New
          +7
          and the death of our peacekeepers? and the death of civilians ... is that not a loss? but the fact that your IT specialists left is not an indicator
        2. Kisa
          Kisa 5 August 2020 08: 53 New
          -8
          I realize that this is a bit of a wrong place to look for some truth or ask questions - the author slightly omitted the beginning of the story - Ossetia Abkhazia was listed as Georgia at that time (if we take UN status as an axiom) but how is it to issue Russian passports to half of the population? not long before that, the first second Chechen with its passports of Ichkeria died down .... huh? don’t you?
        3. Fedorovich
          Fedorovich 5 August 2020 09: 40 New
          +2
          Liberia has the largest merchant fleet - is it also quite successful?
        4. Dart2027
          Dart2027 5 August 2020 20: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Snail N9
          Therefore, they do not have access to an emotionless, "sober" understanding of what happened in Georgia and the reasons for the Ossetian-Abkhaz-Georgian conflict, and hence its consequences for all parties.

          Well, what are they?
      2. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 5 August 2020 09: 28 New
        -2
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Separatism worked great for the USSR

        First of all, separatism hits the separatists themselves hard.
        However, those who support the separatists are doing well too. Moreover, the longer the conflict lasts. Over time, the supporters will be accused of all possible sins of the separatists themselves and it is not easy to wash off all this, oh, how difficult it is when everyone around them understands well that without outside support, everything would have calmed down long ago.
        By the way, looking around the historical retrospective and somehow I do not find good examples of the separatists' successes. Political luck, of course.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 5 August 2020 20: 03 New
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          By the way, looking over the historical retrospective and somehow I do not find good examples of the separatists' successes.

          So the separation of Georgia from the USSR is separatism.
  6. Mouse
    Mouse 5 August 2020 07: 10 New
    11
    For 12 years Russia “has been striving for a repeated escalation of the conflict, annually pushing the border several meters, or even hundreds of meters»

    Is Georgia over there yet? recourse
    1. Aag
      Aag 5 August 2020 08: 15 New
      +5
      There is also Georgia ... The one whose capital is Atlanta ... repeat
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 5 August 2020 08: 27 New
        +1
        A little more, a little more ... wink
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 August 2020 07: 15 New
    +3
    After this statement, the Georgian ambassador to Israel expects that his fellow Jews will pat him on the head, will they regret? You are our unfortunate ones. Let him cry again. All statements by Georgia against Russia should begin with a scene of chewing a red tie, maybe the brains will fall into place.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 5 August 2020 11: 31 New
      -1
      They are similar to some Ossetia, others tyrannized Syria, only Ossetia was defended directly and Syria was mediocre.
  8. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 5 August 2020 07: 19 New
    +6
    Who is interested in the statements of some small country among the Caucasus mountains? In addition, following the lead of the powers that be, this is the same if Petrushka is asked to speak out (Petrushka in the sense of a jester, not Petro Poroshenko)
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 5 August 2020 08: 50 New
      +1
      (Petrushka in the sense of a jester, not Petro Poroshenko)

      And why is Poroshenko not a jester? Identically ... IMHO ...
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 August 2020 07: 21 New
    0
    Georgian Ambassador to Israel: We warned in 2008 that after Georgia Russia will move on
    Further, but later, they did not finish with Georgia yet. recourse
  10. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 5 August 2020 07: 24 New
    +4
    This Zhvania is better to chew than to speak. And thinking sometimes would not hurt.
  11. antivirus
    antivirus 5 August 2020 07: 24 New
    -1
    Georgia is Kakheti, everything else will be independent states, allies of Russia
  12. Andrea
    Andrea 5 August 2020 07: 29 New
    +2
    Here and without warning in Europe they know ... Catherine the Great warned them: if you spit in Russia, Russia will be rubbed out, if Russia spits, it will wash away Europe, but the memory of Georgians is short, and even more so in Europe.
  13. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 5 August 2020 07: 29 New
    0
    And we warned what would happen if Georgia did what it did. It would be better for Georgians to learn to listen and think than to talk nonsense.
  14. Mimino
    Mimino 5 August 2020 07: 51 New
    +3
    Ukraine is always at war with Russia and at war. Only all the most active "warriors" hang out in Kiev.
  15. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 5 August 2020 07: 56 New
    +2
    Tbilisi had to be taken ...
  16. Vasya Zyuzkin
    Vasya Zyuzkin 5 August 2020 08: 57 New
    0
    Complains about pushing the border! And to whom? Ha! Didn't the Jews sell him an excursion to the Golan?))))))
  17. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 5 August 2020 09: 37 New
    0
    Chacha is a good thing, but insidious ... A Georgian should have understood this.
  18. thinker
    thinker 5 August 2020 10: 02 New
    0
    Mr. Zhvania. Without naming the reasons why the Russian army ended up on Georgian territory ...
    Very much even calls, Mr. Lashara. This is where sheer lies! -
    When South Ossetian separatists fired on Georgian villages, the Georgian army entered the region to stop them. Russia invaded Georgia by land, water and air, claiming to ensure peace in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. ... USA allowed Georgia to defend its own capital and drive out Russian troops.
    https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200805/247866589.html
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 August 2020 10: 22 New
    0
    Georgian Ambassador to Israel: We warned in 2008 ...
    What prophets. And you were not warned that it is criminal to attack a neighboring country and kill Russian peacekeepers.
    "The war between Russia and Ukraine for Crimea continues."
    The fact that Georgians are not strong in geography is familiar from Soviet times. Is this how to fight for Crimea in Donbass? Or "normal heroes always go around"? The Georgian and the Ukrainian are somewhat twin brothers.
  20. 1536
    1536 5 August 2020 10: 49 New
    +1
    It comes to the ridiculous. In 2008, the Georgians attacked Russian peacekeepers and Tskhinvali, staged genocide. The Israelis are constantly bombing Syria and the Palestinian territories from their planes, they do not declare war on Syria, but the Syrians have already died immeasurably. And representatives of these aggressive countries before the war give interviews to each other. It's like wolves tell about their hard life to foxes, blaming the forester, who prevents them from destroying all the living creatures in the forest.
  21. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 August 2020 10: 51 New
    0
    It’s a pity they didn’t pin you down Kind, infinitely kind The darkest to these heavenly boobies, who sell everything and everyone ...
  22. Nitarius
    Nitarius 5 August 2020 11: 27 New
    0
    ))) well, and Georgian parasites))
  23. Wolf
    Wolf 5 August 2020 11: 37 New
    +1
    Saakashvili is a NATIONAL SOCIALIST or a NATIONAL CAPITALIST, for the most part a friend of Hitler! What actually happened? We must first return to the time of the creation of the USSR and the CONSTITUTION. I do not know who created the Constitution of the USSR, or the principle of territorial organization of the state is very familiar to me, according to this principle, they organized the Yugoslavia.
    So the day was to make the NATIONAL REPUBLIC and with the borders so arranged that the back of the people was weaker. The motto in Yugoslavia was WEAK SERBIA, STRENGTH OF YUGOSLAVIA. In fact, the constitution also laid down the collapse of the country !!!
    Why? Ochim simply grew up in the national republic of the national politics! And they were starting to be a COMMUNIST NATIONAL. By themselves, they conducted a policy on the basis of NATIONALISM, not on the basis of federalism, because FEDERALISM AND THE UNION IS OPPOSED TO NATIONALISM AND DIVISION. And when the Nazinal communist multiplied and gained strength the head and the collapse of the USSR! But what is most IMPORTANT IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USSR WAS A CIVIL WAR !!! Why and easily DRAWED BORDER SO that many peoples would be unfair to throw. As an example, the Russians were endowed with KRIM, the Oseti and Alani did not have any borders, many Russians were separated from their borders by their own people.
    All the grounds for a civil war were, but I am surprised how the USSR avoided it during the collapse.
    Probably Asian wisdom and humility helped as well as the sacrifice of the larger people, which left some of the people behind foreign borders, and the strategic parts of the territory as was the Cream! Then they were forced to correct it, or this is not a topic.
    But what did these NATIONAL COMMUNISTS do then when they destroyed the country? This is the most important thing !!! They gave themselves the RIGHT to get rid of the UNION, but did they not allow small nations to enter their new powers? On the one hand, they are uncompromising division, and on the other, they are against it when they believed that their NATIONALISTS OF INTEREST are violated!
    And war is inevitable. It happened in Georgia, with US support. The USA and their service know this anti-antiquity well and use it when needed, Georgia was a test of strength for Rus and Rus!
    In fact, these NATIONAL COMMUNISTS IN THE REPUBLIC ARE ALL AT THE PLACE OF HITLER'S FRIENDS, LIKE SAKASHVYL, AND THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD SHOULD THANKS THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND THE LEADERS FOR WISDOM THAT WAS NOT FUCKED BY THE FEAR.
    And Rusia and all the new powers of the former USSR must figure it out at the scientific level, whether these leaders were stupid, or with the intention of making the CONSTITUTION OF DISSOLVE AND CIVIL WAR IN THE USSR.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 5 August 2020 19: 00 New
      0
      Wolf, are you a Serb?
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 5 August 2020 21: 32 New
        0
        Yes, I am Serb, what is the question?
  24. orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 August 2020 13: 16 New
    0
    that after Georgia Russia will move on
    Of course it will move, but as you like. Well, all these non-state actors got "independence" in 91, so sit in silence, with contented faces. So no, to bark a holy cause, but also to shout with a weapon. So they asked for it, there is nothing to blame on Russia. And Ukraine will still receive its (or rather, not give up its own), and Georgia, and the Balts, and the rest of the greyhound. There was no need to pull the bear by the mustache. (Almost like Kipling lol)
  25. bulava
    bulava 5 August 2020 13: 45 New
    +1
    This war is a threat to security in Europe.

    Well, sign up for Asia
  26. iouris
    iouris 5 August 2020 13: 49 New
    0
    He generally understands, this shimazl, whom does he teach life?
  27. Astra wild
    Astra wild 5 August 2020 18: 56 New
    0
    "annually pushing the border a few meters, or even hundreds" means Russia has increased by 3,500 km?
    So our president is the aggressor? Oh, how not good. Does Zhvania also consider me an aggressor? Then urgently give me a weapon, because the armed aggressors must be
  28. razved
    razved 5 August 2020 19: 39 New
    0
    One gets the impression that the Georgian ambassador has finally lost touch with reality

    the point is that they don't need reality. They need to smear Russia by all available means. For those for whose ears such statements are intended, it is not up to the bitches to get to the bottom of the truth ...
  29. Yuri Mikhailovsky
    Yuri Mikhailovsky 5 August 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    You pushed the Gabunistan to the war with the Republics. PUSHED OUT !!!! And then you put on the peacekeeper's toga ... take off your helmet ...
  30. garri Hakobyan
    garri Hakobyan 5 August 2020 21: 36 New
    -1
    Some murderers tell others about their providence ..., the company lacks the omnipotent SAM, ...