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Ukraine's inadequacy will lead to new terrorist attacks

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Ukraine's inadequacy will lead to new terrorist attacks

I confess that when I was asked to express my opinion on the terrorist attacks taking place in Ukraine, my first thought was about a feuilleton. Indeed, the way these crimes occur and how the Ukrainian security forces react to them makes many people smile. However, after reflecting on the situation, having talked with specialists, including Ukrainian ones, I realized that it was necessary to speak seriously. Simply because the events in Ukraine are really serious.


Why terrorist attacks in Ukraine do not scare people


Have you ever thought about the psychological difference between a front-line soldier and a person for whom war is just another film or TV show? Why does war change a person so much? Why part of the front-line soldiers, after returning to normal life, quickly enough become heroes of crime reports?

The answer to this question was found long ago. Remember the phrase from the film "Belorussky Station", said by the hero of Anatoly Papanov?

“You see, I suddenly for a moment felt like at the front. Everything is clear, here is the enemy, near his, and our cause is just. ”

That's right, everything is clear! A person does not think about his own death, he thinks about victory, about his own. Only one detail in his life has changed. Ours remained close, but the enemy has changed. He does not kill, rob, or rape. He just thinks differently. Thinks peacefully. And wins in all situations also peacefully. Not a poke in the throat or an eye, but a lawsuit. Not by automatic fire, but by the correct use of all the rights and benefits that a peaceful life provides.

What is happening today with those Ukrainians who are far from the war, but close to "comic terrorist attacks"? And about the same thing happens to the soldiers in the trenches after the first few days of fear. The fighter gets used to the whistle of bullets, to the explosions of mines. In the same way, an ordinary clerk or market worker, going to work in the morning, fully admits that he will become a participant in the next "joke".

It is quite possible that another ATO-OOS veteran will suddenly decide to take him hostage simply because he will not be able to solve elementary issues of peaceful life. What I wrote above. Yes, it might be a bit uncomfortable, but ultimately it will just be another adventure and end well. Simply put, a person perceives a terrorist attack as part of ordinary life, as a perfectly acceptable incident.

Look at the comments on reports of terrorist attacks and the operations carried out to eliminate them. An excellent cut of the mood in society. You read and catch yourself thinking that the comments are clearly not about the article about the terrorist attack. Rather, about the performance of a comic group or a KVN team. And immediately I remember the parable of the shepherdess and his rally of adults by shouting "wolves!"

What is the reason for a series of terrorist attacks


There are many versions of the committed terrorist attacks. From "the idiots closed the madhouses so that other idiots would organize terrorist attacks" to "Muscovites specially train mentally unbalanced people to commit terrorist attacks." As usual, the situation is clear to everyone except specialists.

A very popular version is that the terrorist attacks were prepared by someone for the purpose of something. I deliberately did not begin to describe who and why prepared these actions. Readers themselves can substitute the word they need, depending on political preferences. But, from my point of view, this version does not stand up to criticism. If, of course, we take it as an axiom that the acts were not developed in any kindergarten or in the lower grades of school.

The main reason for the series is, I think, firstly, the nervousness in society. The same uncertainty about the future. Not only economic, but also moral. Those ATO veterans are no longer heroes today. More and more often they are looked at with contempt. Look at home! Something similar was observed in Russia in the first Chechen war, when the liberal media made murderers and rapists out of soldiers in a war.

Secondly, all political forces in Ukraine already understand that democracy must end. This is exactly how Ivan Krylov's fable about the swan, crayfish and pike becomes clear to the Ukrainians. Society is waiting for the Savior! No, not the new coming of Jesus Christ is popular among Ukrainians today. Do you need a Ukrainian Stalin or ... Putin. The "iron hand" of the ruler is needed!

Thirdly, the series was caused by the act of President Zelensky when he followed the lead of the Lutsk terrorist. For mentally unbalanced people, this was the impetus for action. And, most likely, this will not end with three terrorist attacks.

Of course, the committed acts of terrorism will be used by opponents and supporters of President Zelensky for their own needs. The situation in Ukraine is awful. In every sense of the word. Politics, economics, medicine, education, industry and ... Today there is no industry in Ukraine that you can boast of. There is no sphere of public life where real successes would be observed.

By the way, quite a few times I have read and heard opinions about the actions of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine during these terrorist attacks. How much bile and misunderstanding. Yes, outwardly it did not look like a "life-threatening operation." But I would like to ask the "anti-terrorist" experts: what criteria do you use to judge the success or failure of an operation? By the number of cartridges from the machine gun on the asphalt? Or by the number of rolled noses and broken cheekbones?

Even if the special forces officers in ballet tutus dance the dance of little swans in front of the terrorists and at the same time take and rescue the hostages without loss, this is a successful operation! Believe me, special forces - they are special forces everywhere, and any terrorist will be able to correct the face of the face. Risking his own life for the lives of the hostages is his job.

How Ukrainian politicians use terrorist attacks


As I wrote above, the terrorist attacks will be used by all political forces in Ukraine for their own purposes. Ukraine will have to go through a politically sultry autumn. Local elections will be the culmination of this fall. Zelenskiy's team simply needs to use all administrative mechanisms to win this election.

The rating of President Zelensky fell to minus in June according to polls by the Center. Razumkov. The anti-rating has exceeded the rating, and the situation is practically not improved. I think the division of the country into quarantine zones, which began on August 3, is one of the measures to isolate voters who clearly support Poroshenko from the elections.

President Zelenskiy, with the necessary courage and determination, could very well take the situation under his own control. For all the apparent power of his opponents, the president remains the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And the artificial confrontation he created between the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU plays into the hands of him and his team.

However, for such actions, the Ukrainian president clearly has a small intestine. And it is quite possible that the authorities will agree to the sudden appearance of a "gray cardinal" in Zelensky's retinue. The past year has shown that this is quite possible.

Arsen Avakov! Duty scarecrow for most Ukrainians. A person who really has a will and is able to usurp power. At the same time, Avakov has up to 300 thousand employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs under arms. In addition, no one hides the fact that the nationalists and the right-wing of Ukraine also obey Avakov. And this is a decent reserve that can be quickly put into operation.

It was not for nothing that I called Arsen Avakov the scarecrow on duty. As long as there has been post-Maidan Ukraine, so many Avakov “seize” power. In fact, in my opinion, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is kept for emergency situations. He is fit for the role of a dictator in transition. Not more. And it can become one only when the “maydauns” feel their own death.

Another contender for the return of power, as he promised when electing Zelensky, is Petro Poroshenko. Unlike Zelensky and Avakov, Poroshenko has no military power. He does not have any serious paramilitaries. But he has huge media resources and support from Western politicians.

Through the media controlled by Poroshenko, he hopes to swing a chair under Zelensky and return power in the "Maidan way" - through the demands of the street. True, at the moment all the efforts of the former president have only led to the fact that when conducting surveys of the population, sociologists state an unprecedented growth in the popularity of ... Yanukovych! The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians supported the return of the ousted president to power (from 65 to 80%, according to various polls).

The time has come for surprises


The destabilization of the socio-political situation in the country, the atmosphere of uncertainty about the future, an even greater split in society on key issues such as the language issue, as well as a large number of weapons in the hands of the population gives rise to terrorist attacks and crimes with the use of weapons. Ukraine is inadequate! Ukraine has entered a zone of turbulence!

How many times Ukrainians, and we too, were amazed at the decisions of the Ukrainian courts. Known murderers, whose guilt has been proven, are released on bail of the Rada deputies. Women who openly threaten to assassinate the country's president, too. How many times have we seen the lawlessness of "pravosek" and veterans, which was not stopped by the police! I will dare to quote Mikhail Pogrebinsky, director of the Kiev Center for Political Research, which he gave to KP:

“The Minister of Justice Denis Malyuska visits the cells of those sentenced to life imprisonment, and on the way out says that there are good people sitting there, some of whom he would, he says, would gladly take to his work. As a result, Ukrainians are disoriented. "

I once predicted the disintegration of Ukraine. Today we are witnessing this very process. This is not a momentary explosion. This is a long process of fruit ripening. And ultimately reshaping the political map of Ukraine. I see that the process will not be limited to this country only. Quite a lot of countries are involved in it. It changes the political, economic and cultural contours of the world.

And Ukraine is just a part of these changes ...
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 15: 09
    -2
    I once predicted the disintegration of Ukraine. Today we are witnessing exactly this process

    The funeral. My favorite virtual funerals.
    I would like to ask the author - when did he predict the collapse of Ukraine and how much then "measured" for this process?
    I love when they vang the collapse of America, Russia, Ukraine. Specifically put the countries in alphabetical order.
    How was the European Union buried together after the announcement of Brexit? Have tasted! They put bets on who is next and! ... And nothing.
    I will reassure the author and readers. Will not fall apart / will not fall apart.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 13
      +2
      Ukraine's inadequacy will lead to new terrorist attacks

      The article clearly lacks an explanatory video sequence ...

      And here it is - from 03.08.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.

    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 August 2020 15: 52
      +8
      I will reassure the author and readers. Will not fall apart / will not fall apart


      there are still 24 regions in Ukraine? You already missed the moment of her breakup.

      I have not noticed. To me, in roulette, everyone is shown by the icon of Ukraine (I choose Ukraine). But if someone from Donetsk / Lugansk appears there (and he is also under the badge of Ukraine) and when I asked if he was Ukrainian, they clearly and clearly answer me that I mistook the shores and there are no Ukrainians at the other end of the wire, then you missed the moment of disintegration ... And so I was answered by more than one person from Donetsk - both girls and boys and men and women. You do not want to open your eyes, apparently. You still paint yourself such a Ukraine - a beautiful farm with maids of garnishing and prosperity, but this is no longer the case.

      Will fall apart. I will also reassure the author and readers. Fall apart under the supervision of older comrades wassat

      PS Crimeans also with a ruin icon there. But when I ask the Crimeans whether they are Ukrainians, or ask them to sing their anthem of Ukraine (stoned gunboots sing), or ask what is the glory of the Ukrainian tribe, in response only wild laughter

      PPS Minus not minus, and I will go to our Crimea in a few weeks laughing According to the internal Russian passport. I won't even cross the border.

      And you, in order to travel to Crimea, a Ukrainian from not collapsed Ukraine, must pass the cordon. And he hopes that nothing of the kind will seem suspicious to the Rospogranians. Otherwise, you will turn around and go home to Ukraine - because Crimea is no longer Ukraine
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 16: 22
        -7
        Ah .... It's you, dear troll.
        And as always, do you want to replace concepts with your Wishlist? I will upset you too:
        There is no Czechoslovakia, no Yugoslavia, but what you hate so much, alas, is. Both on maps and at the UN.
        Tell me, dear masochist, do you try to approach the rank on your avatar with your comments? Try something clever to write ... b
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 24
          +7
          Tell me, dear masochist, do you try to approach the rank on your avatar with your comments?

          you decided to scare me laughing loss of "rank"? laughing This is a favorite Selyuk joke from a neoplasm (titles, stripes, career growth, through someone else's head or through hushing up their position - conciliation), which has not passed the test of time - this is parallel to me. My rank is written on my military ID.

          but what you hate so much, alas, is. Both on maps and at the UN.

          Whose Crimea, Ukrainian?) You are not confused by this question?
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 16: 33
            -10 qualifying.
            I do not know. I haven't been there since 2006. The fact that you will now write OUR in capital letters is predictable, but I'm used to the fact that in my country there is a branch of the Russian Savings Bank everywhere, that I travel by Russian Railways trains and my registration gives me the right to receive a loan.
            It's not your fault for misunderstandings, but explain these three incidents to me, and then write three letters ... Like OURS.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 39
              +3
              Whose Crimea, Ukrainian?) You are not confused by this question?

              and the answer of the Ukrainian
              I do not know. I haven't been there since 2006.

              laughing you are really sad and your hut is on the edge

              PS Do you feel how I am over you here? Well, don't be offended. I love you sad ones anyway, like a brother drinks

              PS There are no railways and banks in Crimea. People cannot use plastic and only hryvnias are used in everyday life. And there are no loans in Crimea either, for sure wassat

              Or does it sadden you that it is not Russian Railways that transports you there, but the "Grand Service Express"? Do not be so sad. What does it matter to you? Do you like the logo more? Or do you no longer know just how to squeeze bile out of yourself?)

              You would still be saddened that now Crimeans need to go to Krasnodar for a visa laughing


              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 17: 01
                -7
                I'm not offenced. Even when I watched Gaidai's films in my distant childhood, I remembered the phrase:
                "It is a sin to laugh at sick people." And when I became an adult, I realized that it was so. Live, Petrov, in your made-up world, provoke, pretend it's funny. You won't break me with this, but looking at how you slide down in the eyes of adequate members of the forum, I understand that your frenzy is to blame for everything.
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 5 August 2020 17: 05
                  +6
                  and looking as you roll down in the eyes of adequate members of the forum

                  yoyoyoo yo yoyoy
                  how do you go on? How can I get respect from Svarog, Stas and Gardamir and you, Svidomo Ukrainian? How can I make peace with the Raguli-patriots?
                  I urgently need to do something about this, otherwise you will press minus wassat love

                  Petrov in his fictional world

                  this is my trick - to burn out over your maneuver with President Grudinin and the revolution, which will take place tomorrow
                  don't need these things.

                  you do it forever. take someone else's - and then pass off as yours
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 5 August 2020 17: 35
                    -7
                    how do you go on?
                    Exactly through the letter "d" ...
                    So you do not live - so, you exist. Although you yourself seem cunning, invincible and powerful. I do not dare to tear you away from the process of narcissism.
                    Yes! With your guessing talents, get a job at the balinket or the weather forecast.
                    And don't disturb me anymore today. I'm tired of unwise words.
                    1. St Petrov
                      St Petrov 5 August 2020 17: 36
                      +5
                      I'm tired of unwise words.


                      I'm tired of you, Svidomo tribe. but we cannot get away from each other.
                      you still have to moan, and I still have to spread great-power chauvinism across the expanses of the future Empire through the digital space

                      And don't disturb me anymore today

                      everything will depend on your posts. I can't walk past if I see another masterpiece

                      Although you yourself seem cunning, invincible and powerful

                      the main thing is that not offended) and not a trembling woman with low social responsibility, who cannot even write whose Crimea - I'm not talking about - what would protect it.

                      Such things, Nazarius wassat But there are many of them, don't think that this is all about you)
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 54
              +2
              I can see you anyway, even when you think you can't be seen. either ears or heels stick out wink
              and manners and Svidomo-not to put away. Do not corrode.

              But nothing, as they say: "Ukraine is not full of raguli"



        2. Ramon Merkader
          Ramon Merkader 5 August 2020 23: 46
          +1
          Howe, son of Winnitou. Vasechkin from another test. I think this is a representative of the svidomit network-centric trolls. He squints at others, at first glance, it seems that a urapatriot, albeit notoriously stoned. However, upon closer examination, analysis of the statements, as well as the choice of interlocutors, I dare to say that this is the heir of the ancient ukrov under the guise.
          In any case, correspondence with this character is a waste of time.
          Don't feed the troll (c)
          How.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 6 August 2020 10: 53
            -2
            I think this is a representative of the svidomit network-centric trolls. He squints under others, at first glance, it seems that a urapatriot, albeit notoriously stoned. However, upon closer inspection


            send a video call on votap for analysis, take a closer look? tell me about network-centric trolls. I'll look at you
            Or do the trolls not use video calls, because the trolls have nothing personal and they just get a silver piece for their position?)
            Well, let's talk about politics, if you have, of course, some position, sad oppositionist
            check out how I okay and say the letter "heh"
            Why are the sad oppositionists so shy?

            I really want to see svarog, stas157, gardamir and other crying of this forum, but the guys merge, they want to type letters, they are not comfortable talking
            They begin to joke inappropriately and wag like women with reduced social responsibility when they are hinted that it would be nice to see in the eyes of the one with whom you have been arguing for many years - because it’s very interesting who has been moaning like that under abstract nicknames for more than a dozen years. Men or who are they?

            You, too, will probably start joking now and merge?) But I really have a lot of questions for you, including, don't upset me

    3. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 02
      +7
      Ukraine collapsed when Lugansk worked with NURS litaki from Ukraine
      at that moment you pulled on your hatascar blinders and did not notice the disintegration of your neoplasm

      I will sadden the platoon of Ukrainian pitriots. But nothing. You already used to be sad wassat
      Your sad country has no achievements, no victories. You are eating the remnants of a bygone highly developed civilization and killing people with Ukrainian passports for 6 years already.

      PS The Ukrainian Armed Forces also have nothing but sadness. APU generally still the waffles. The Ukrainian Armed Forces only have enough to kill thousands of people with Ukrainian passports

      Ukraine says it won't fall apart laughing At full speed rushes towards the bottom - behind which there will be the next floor of the fall

      PPS you set up a brothel on Russian lands. Crazy tribe. Therefore, these lands have already begun to be taken from you. In Crimea, there is still a barn to clean up and clean out. Already 20 billion have been poured into it, and there is no end in sight.

      1. BAI
        BAI 5 August 2020 16: 55
        -5
        Ukraine collapsed when Lugansk worked with NURS litaki from Ukraine

        This moment and the annexation of Crimea is a passed stage. What has changed in the territory of Ukraine after Crimea and the stabilization of the border in the South-East? Nothing. And it is necessary to count from this moment. Crimea and LDNR are no longer Ukraine. All. The process stopped. This began, and this ended. There will be no further collapse. Further deviations for Ukraine are only in a pleasant direction. Donbass will return - good. He will not return - he is not there anyway.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 58
          +3
          ... There will be no further collapse.


          why? is there a resource to keep everything in a single space? Or is it getting sadder with the resource?
          maybe Donbass won't have a special status? Maybe Ukraine has run out of those who associate themselves with the Russian world?

          It's only the beginning. Ukraine will no longer be a unitary state. She signed up for this at the UN - all that remained was to carry out the actions.

          PS APU kills Ukrainians, not Russians. With such a miraculous army, this state will not exist. It will tear it apart. Russia will not even need to introduce anything at first.

          We are now just sitting on the bank of the river and waiting for this pot to be screwed on. It is already unbearable to live there - the main thing is not to disturb them, not to get involved in the situation. They do everything themselves - with their own hands
    4. ZaDedov
      ZaDedov 5 August 2020 21: 01
      -2
      Ukraine will definitely fall apart.
      Everybody says this and I believe all these people am
    5. iouris
      iouris 5 August 2020 23: 46
      -1
      Well, first of all, America is two continents (South and North), not a country. Ukraine is part of Russia. Thus, some have already fallen apart, i.e. the process has started. It is incomplete. What is meant by "collapse", in fact, may turn out to be a transition to a new economic order. To do this, it is necessary to destroy the old economy and get rid of the excess population (for example, from the Indians, and at the same time from their leaders). These tasks can be solved in different ways, but the essence is the same.
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  3. Mouse
    Mouse 5 August 2020 15: 19
    +2
    This is not a momentary explosion. This is a long process of fruit ripening.

    First you need to ripen ... then a long process of decay and the naturally accompanying smell ... it will stink for a long time ...
    God only knows how much ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 30
      +2
      Quote: Mouse
      First you need to ripen ... then a long process of decay and the naturally accompanying smell ... it will stink for a long time ...
      God only knows how much ...


      For a long time, if the abscess is not forcibly opened, and recovery is not facilitated ...
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 5 August 2020 15: 33
        +1
        do not forcibly open the abscess, and do not facilitate recovery ...

        You will not be forcibly sweet ...
        She died, so she died ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 36
          +7
          Quote: Mouse
          You won't be very nice ...
          She died, so she died ...

          And we do not pretend to be "nice". We have "favors" from Banderva above the roof - from 2014 to the present day.

          Us OWN return, and then let them rot, since Russia does not need them ...
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 5 August 2020 15: 57
      0
      God only knows how much ...

      in the archives of the Lubyanka and VKPB there is all the data, how from 1920 to the first five-year plan (building of Dneproges) brought to life a huge territory
  4. Lumpen
    Lumpen 5 August 2020 15: 20
    -5
    In general, a good article, but the conclusions ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 27
      +1
      Quote: Lumpen
      In general, a good article, but the conclusions ...

      What exactly are the doubts? What is the state of power on the "square" leading it to its final collapse?

      If there are objections to such an assessment, then give examples of improvement in the situation. And not local, with the painting of the bus stop in patriotic colors, and not the compulsory singing "They have not yet died" in schools, but something integral, systemic.
      1. Lumpen
        Lumpen 5 August 2020 15: 36
        -2
        I have read your comments under other articles and do not want to get involved in a pointless discussion.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 41
          +3
          Quote: Lumpen
          I have read your comments under other articles and do not want to get involved in a pointless discussion.

          Well, the right decision yes Without a stable, constructively sane and reasonable position, you better not get involved in a dispute.
          1. Lumpen
            Lumpen 5 August 2020 15: 47
            -4
            Something you did not always use all of the above requirements for yourself laughing
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 51
              +5
              Quote: Lumpen
              Something you did not always use all of the above requirements for yourself

              A-a-a ... Another Rothmans lol .
      2. Avior
        Avior 5 August 2020 15: 38
        -6
        Will such an example work?
        https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ukraina/
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 46
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          Will such an example work?
          https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ukraina/

          "Average temperature in the ward", where one is already cold, while the other has a fever of" 40 + ", but in" total 36,6 "?

          Would you write about something else, how many people actually receive salaries, and how many do not see them for months?
          And how many enterprises are worth, and how many are already "sawing" ...

          Just do not nod at the situation in our DPR and LPR, which is the legacy of Ukraine and the results of your aggression.
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 August 2020 15: 58
            -1
            Why's that? How was it determined?
            The average and minimum wages differ by two times, if we take the regions - a maximum of three only in Kiev, quite a decent ratio by any measure, the minimum is growing at a faster pace.
            https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/2020/
            What is an uncomfortable example for you? Well, what you asked for ...
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 August 2020 16: 06
              +4
              Quote: Avior
              Well, what you asked for

              I "asked" for an example of a system parameter that really reflects the state of the country's economy, and not a virtual list of salaries that a communal apartment eats like a worm, and the growth of other prices for goods and services.

              You can juggle "impressive numbers" as much as you like, but when these numbers are exaggerated and relevant only for small, most prosperous groups of the population, there will not even be any improvement in the economy and financial sector.

              Quote: Avior
              Why's that? How was it determined?


              Is it difficult, perhaps, to combine "news from the fields" with your non-representative digital audio?
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 August 2020 16: 20
                -1
                How so? After all, I wrote to you about the outstripping growth of the minimum wage, which characterizes just a decrease in the gap in the level of wages of the population
                https://index.minfin.com.ua/ua/labour/salary/min/
                A system parameter, what a system parameter.
                An integral indicator, however.
                Do you want to hear only about steel smelting per capita?
                The population itself, what does it matter? Will he be glad for the growth in the well-being of some Lisin, Akhmetov, or someone else?
                And what about the communal apartment, you write growing?
                Throw a link to the official figures for the same time, together we'll see what kind of growth there is.
                In general, you can't please you.
                You asked for an example, they gave you, but you do not seem to argue that this is the very example that you wanted, but on the other hand, they began to pour me something completely different from the template set. How to communicate with you then? You about what you asked, and you rushed to change the topic in response?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 5 August 2020 16: 33
                  -2
                  How so? I wrote to you about the outstripping growth of the minimum wage,


                  )) The IMF said to lower the minimum wage bar, because mriyas do not match reality

                  your economy is at the bottom, and you decided to pull off such a maneuver and make a min-salary more than that of a neighbor (who can invest $ 20 billion in Crimea and not feel uncomfortable at the same time) wassat greasy gags

                  But nothing - the reality is merciless.

                  1. Avior
                    Avior 5 August 2020 16: 43
                    +1
                    What's your second nickname?
                    Or are you from the minusators support team, which suddenly comes up when there is essentially nothing to say?
                    Have you seen what the conversation is about?
                    The man asked, he was given a link.
                    And now I read about the IMF
                    ... According to the schedule approved by the Cabinet of Ministers, the minimum wage will increase from September 1 to UAH 5000, from January 1, 2021 - to UAH 6000, and from July 1, 2021, UAH 6500.

                    On September 1, we'll see how it goes ...
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 August 2020 16: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: Avior
                      On September 1, we'll see how it goes ...

                      The economic situation? Exactly the same as at the time of 1.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX, only worse ...
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 5 August 2020 16: 59
                        -2
                        Let's see the salary on September 1
                        You don’t transfer your salary to your card, and not information about the economy?
                      2. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 5 August 2020 17: 28
                        -1
                        The economic situation? Exactly the same as at the time of 1.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX, only worse ...


                        he does not understand what we are talking about. Let then immediately make 10 hryvnia minimum wage (you can also $), so that Moksha residents are generally envious

                        But Ukrainians will still go to work anywhere - even to the West, even to the East.

                        You don’t transfer your salary to your card, and not information about the economy?


                        or after the increase in the minimum wage, workers began to gather from all over the planet back to Ukraine?

                        In general, how can you describe the situation in the Ukrainian economy? In one word?
                      3. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 August 2020 18: 14
                        +3
                        Quote: s-t Petrov
                        he does not understand what we are talking about.

                        This is a glaring problem for the Outskirts. Lost, unhappy people ...
      3. Lumpen
        Lumpen 5 August 2020 15: 49
        -6
        "Big construction" has been forgotten!
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 August 2020 15: 54
          +3
          Quote: Lumpen
          "Big construction" has been forgotten!

          "Hyperloop"? I apologize for the forgetfulness, FACT IT IS YOURS EVERYTHING.
          1. Lumpen
            Lumpen 5 August 2020 16: 34
            -3
            You are probably a "secret adept" Poroshenko and Co., you live by past memories.
            "Hyperloop" is being dragged to NABU, and the Big Construction project "implies the construction of roads, junctions, schools and kindergartens. And the next stage is planned for next year.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 August 2020 16: 37
              +3
              Quote: Lumpen
              You are probably a "secret adept" Poroshenko and Co., you live by past memories.

              Forget yes Last time you called me "political worker" ...
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 5 August 2020 18: 09
              +1
              and the Big Construction project "implies the construction of roads, junctions, schools and kindergartens. And the next stage is planned for next year


              Have you saved up money in Ukraine? laughing
              Or borrow it for infrastructure projects? Can you still service the loan? wassat

              funny you are with your mriyas
  • Poetry
    Poetry 5 August 2020 15: 41
    +1
    Don't make my face laugh. They have not seen real terrorist attacks yet. It's all true, pantomime.
  • truck driver
    truck driver 5 August 2020 15: 42
    +2
    The situation with the terrorists looks to us like a poorly staged performance. Someone is taking third-rate actors and trying to rock the boat ahead of the election. All these attempts look pitiful, truly what country are such and terrorist attacks.
    1. domokl
      5 August 2020 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: LKW Fahrer
      Someone takes third-rate actors and tries to rock the boat ahead of the election

      I disagree. Even Ukrainian "politicians" will not work so clumsily. There are obvious phase shifts in the "terrorists". This will not affect local elections in any way. Ze had already lost them.
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 5 August 2020 15: 47
    +1
    How many times Ukrainians, and we too, were amazed at the decisions of the Ukrainian courts. Known murderers, whose guilt is proven, are released on bail of the Rada deputies.

    Come on, we have enough of our own. As recently as now, a tragicomedy is unfolding in which the role of "prima ballerina" is played by the actor-son of the great actor. What will this inadequacy of ours lead to?
  • akunin
    akunin 5 August 2020 15: 50
    +2
    I once predicted the disintegration of Ukraine. Today we are witnessing this very process.

    Ukraine is inadequate! Ukraine has entered a zone of turbulence!

    I do not agree with the word in general. I would like to clarify: what will Ukraine fall into? On what borders? Why did they not allow (did not help) fall apart in the 13-14th years? Ukraine will leave the orbit of Russia and will strive for the European Union (if you want this is a national idea) even at the cost of losing its identity, Belarus (which has even more chances) will be buried there. Syria (in question), Venezuela (in question) some Bantustan (country of Lesotho, where the Basuto people live
    (a tribe known as African cannibals)) - our allies for the coming years, well, also "Gazprom", "Rosneft" and "Sberbank" ... crying
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 August 2020 19: 20
      -1
      Are you sad without allies? Well try to buy them if you have more money than the West
      laughing

      Gazprom, Rosneft and Sberbank


      well, and also the army and the navy (which are provided with fuel and rations (thanks to Gazprom, Rosneft and the collection))

      And the Republic of Belarus and Ukraine - who are the allies?) Once they sailed away from Russia. Europe? laughing

      strive to join the European Union even at the cost of losing one's identity

      in the 90s, youngsters dreamed of being prostitutes and bandits (well, of course, there were exceptions). Because it was so fashionable. But times go by ...

      PS they did not lose anything - for them it is the norm. History is cyclical

      a tribe known as African cannibals

      and sho? the collective West did not have enough money, or did the cannibals explain that power is not in money? Well, if they didn’t take it, then I’m ready to ally with this tribe. Quality guys. Not that bought by the enemy, allies)

      I am also impressed by cannibals - I have not heard words from them about brotherly love and that Russia owes them.
      This tribe stands out favorably against the background

      1. akunin
        akunin 6 August 2020 08: 19
        0
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        (thanks to gazprom, rosneft and sbiru))

        provided thanks to people like you and those you see around you (ordinary people) who create added value for Miller, Gref, Sechin and the oligarchy, who is a minority shareholder in the state. companies. If you don't understand that Gazprom is theirs and not your (our) property, then I'm sorry ...
        Are you sad without allies?
        very funny, especially if you do not count Venezuela, Syria, etc. (to whom the debts were forgiven)
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 August 2020 10: 21
          -1
          Gazprom is theirs, not your (our) property

          Pensions are paid in Rossiyushka from the sale of what on the international market? Is the army re-equipping with the money that was received from the taxes of the sale of Yotofon?
          Now we will draw logical chains

          very funny

          listen and I did not notice the loss of an ally of RB. At all. In the Caucasus, the Russian woman coped without the guys, the Crimea was not recognized, in Georgia they jumped off this holiday of life, they pushed the sanctions according to gray schemes, stuck to cheap energy resources, but did not give anything in return

          And by what signs did you understand that we no longer have an ally? Because Lukashenka said so? Or are there any things that touched you?

          PS Now Grygorich would let the Germans pass through his territory, telling them that this is not a war between Belarusians. See what the "ally" thinks about it

          1. akunin
            akunin 6 August 2020 10: 56
            0
            Yes, I saw it all, and I know who pays taxes. I don't need allies. I don't need allies, but the authorities need them to prove the viability of their foreign policy.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 6 August 2020 12: 14
              0
              I don't need allies, but the authorities need them to prove the viability of their foreign policy.

              Yes? laughing who brought this rule out?
              The consistency of foreign policy is when Russia is guided exclusively by its own national interests. And when she does so, then there are many offended. Not?
              Is it Russia's national interest to feed the former republics and get what we have?

              Well, I’ll ask again. If the Republic of Belarus and Ukraine have lost allied relations with the Russian Federation, then have they acquired allied relations with whom?

              Can you name the allies of these successful states? Can you describe to me the consistency of their foreign policy? Maybe against their background I will understand what you are talking about and see the failure of the Russian foreign policy

              PS Russia is the center of power of the CSTO. So there are allies obliged to fight for the interests of the Russian Federation. As well as the reverse movement in this matter. And who will fight for the conditional Ukraine from the allies?

              1. akunin
                akunin 6 August 2020 15: 03
                0
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                So there are allies obliged to fight for the interests of the Russian Federation.

                Belarus is also a member of the ODKB. None of the ODKB members recognized the sovereignty of Russia over the Crimea (this is one of the reasons why the authorities need allies). And I don’t urge someone to “feed”.
                empire above all
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 6 August 2020 15: 05
                  0
                  empire above all


                  drinks
  • smaug78
    smaug78 5 August 2020 16: 07
    -1
    I once predicted the disintegration of Ukraine. Today we are witnessing exactly this process
    and what is this process? Although the likes of you are always wanging something with a known result ...
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 5 August 2020 16: 17
    +1
    The fact that the fruit "ripens, and maybe rots" I agree. But the collapse of the Outskirts has been predicted since 2014, but somehow it does not disintegrate. This process is painfully complicated only for internal political reasons. The political and economic support of the West and the presence of only one organized force within the country, the nationalists, has been and remains a restraining factor. Everyone else either pretends that nothing is happening or is afraid to voice their displeasure. In fact, it is possible that there are much more dissatisfied people, but this is a product for intra-family consumption. DPR and LPR will remain the only region where the majority of citizens openly disagreed with the unconstitutional seizure of power, changes in foreign policy and national priorities.
    And all these terrorist attacks are more like a madhouse show and mockery of the country's law enforcement system.
  • Narcologist
    Narcologist 5 August 2020 16: 49
    -2
    “You see, I suddenly for a moment felt like at the front. Everything is clear, here is the enemy, near his, and our cause is just. ”

    Along the way, it will begin so soon in Ukraine..Russia, after all, has not come to war so much about what Bandera and others so dreamed of! lol
    Now the power of Kiev resembles spiders in a bank ... The main spider there is Sakashvilli and Avakov ..))))
  • BAI
    BAI 5 August 2020 16: 49
    -1
    I once predicted the disintegration of Ukraine.

    Few of the VO authors admit their own mistakes. What happened after the forecast? Have you separated one square meter of territory?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 5 August 2020 18: 01
      +1
      laughing I confess, I wrote a lot about persimmons, which should ripen, but it will not ripen ... And it will not ripen ... For this to happen, there must be positive guidelines. For Ukraine, the EU reference point, there are no other guidelines .. Zelensky, Poroshenko and the others are just protégés ... Yes, and Avakov is not an authority; when necessary, they will be removed ...
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 5 August 2020 19: 09
        0
        Yes, and Avakov is not an authority, when necessary, they will remove ...

        when necessary, we will make a new Maidan and remove whoever we want (c) Ukrainians are non-workers from the Internet

        aha

        you get tired of swallowing dust (c)


        Zelenskiy, Poroshenko and others are just protégés ...

        this is just the choice of the Ukrainian people, obtained in fair elections (except for the regions that did not vote for the presidents laughing the circuit is cool.)

        For Ukraine, the reference point is the EU, there are no other guidelines.

        oh whether. There the head rotates 360 °, according to the mood and conjuncture
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 August 2020 19: 15
      +1
      Have you separated one square meter of territory?

      laughing
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 5 August 2020 20: 27
    0
    "Ukraine is just a part of these changes ..."
    Right. Every week, news about the thwarted terrorist attacks ...

    Urgently revise the "short dollar rate"))))
  • iouris
    iouris 5 August 2020 23: 37
    0
    Where are the attacks? So far, these are only successful productions. But they showed some people something: the first-ranker plays to the end, and the master of sports surrenders in three moves.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 8 August 2020 09: 23
    -2
    I fundamentally disagree with the comparison of ukrokaraieli with the hero of Papanov! The former initially went to ATO with the aim of playing safari and destroying "non-humans". They do not have any PTSD, but there is only a thirst for easy money, other people's property and a feeling of imaginary superiority over everyone, generated by permissiveness and lack of punishment !!! And while modern Ukraine does not want to hold them accountable for their crimes, they will behave like wild animals, ready to wash everyone with blood, whoever speaks against them.
  • Horn
    Horn 12 August 2020 06: 11
    0
    It is difficult to call what is happening in Ukraine a ripening process. This is the process of decay.