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Elon Musk: We're going to go to the moon

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The return of the Crew Dragon spacecraft to Earth heralded the beginning of a new era in world space exploration. NASA's further targets should be the Moon and Mars.


Such ideas were expressed by Elon Musk during the video broadcast, in which he greeted the astronauts who returned from orbit:

We're going to go to the moon, we're going to have a base on the moon, we're going to send humans to Mars and make life multi-planetary, and I think this day heralds a new era in space exploration.

The billionaire added that now, when the world is suffering from the coronavirus pandemic and other crises, he just needs to learn at least something good. He thinks that news the successful flight of an American spacecraft will delight people.

US President Donald Trump on his Twitter page congratulated everyone on the successful completion of the space mission.

NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine greeted astronauts Robert Behnken and Douglas Hurley:

Welcome home Bob and Doug! Congratulations to the NASA and SpaceX teams for an incredible job creating this test flight. We are going further than ever before and taking the next steps in daring missions to the Moon and Mars.

On August 2, SpaceX's Crew Dragon, with two astronauts on board, successfully landed in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Astronauts Robert Behnken and Douglas Hurley spent 62 days on the International Space Station, after which they returned to Earth.

This is the first time in world practice when people were delivered into orbit by a private spacecraft.
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  1. Irek
    Irek 4 August 2020 09: 42 New
    -24
    The earth has been fucked up, come on now for the nearest planets.
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 4 August 2020 10: 02 New
      19
      Quote: Irek
      The earth has been fucked up, come on now for the nearest planets.

      Well, suppose Rogozin and Co. will dirtiest the earth without even touching other planets. It makes it easier, right? Should one give a damn about a remarkable achievement just because it is American? Would you like to remind me when "Eagle", nee "Federation" is ready? And don't you remember how we rejoiced at the great achievements of the USSR? I still remember what a holiday it was when Gagarin flew.
      But now there is absolutely nothing to be proud of in astronautics - except that the toilet bowl on the ISS is good. And the Vostochny cosmodrome was completed, however, nothing flies from it. And the scale of theft in Roskosmos is cosmic. Rejoice if you can. And this makes me sad.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 4 August 2020 10: 08 New
        23
        And the scale of theft in Roscosmos is cosmic.
        ... Not only in Roscosmos, Colonel Zakharchenko found money for two Angars, they found it from one, and how many were not found ... the white light did not converge on Zakharchenko ... how many more such ...
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 4 August 2020 10: 22 New
          -12
          Money from such as Zakharchenko will be sent to the PF of Russia and nothing more.
          1. AUL
            AUL 4 August 2020 10: 52 New
            17
            They did not steal them, to distribute them to pensioners!
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 4 August 2020 10: 59 New
              -7
              If he gets caught, he will give it back as dear and no one will ask. I also like Lukash "it seems to him" if he is caught in corruption, then all property is arrested before the trial.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 4 August 2020 13: 29 New
                +9
                Quote: tralflot1832
                Will come across
                Duc, so as not to get caught, you just need to share with the lads, and everything will be a bunch.
                1. Starover_Z
                  Starover_Z 4 August 2020 22: 23 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  Will come across
                  Duc, so as not to get caught, you just need to share with the lads, and everything will be a bunch.

                  And since someone was taken and accused, it means he did not share, "did not unfasten", "rats from his own", - so they put him in prison!
          2. Grading
            Grading 4 August 2020 11: 50 New
            -5
            People hawal people have enough people will hawala
      2. slipped
        slipped 4 August 2020 11: 08 New
        -3
        Quote: astepanov
        Would you like to remind me when "Eagle", nee "Federation" is ready?


        Let me remind you. The launch of the Oryol spacecraft is scheduled for 2023. For this, the Amur space rocket complex is being built at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

        Quote: astepanov
        But now there is absolutely nothing to be proud of in astronautics


        A blind person cannot be proud of something, he stupidly does not see. laughing

        Quote: astepanov
        And the Vostochny cosmodrome was completed, however, nothing flies from it.


        For the first half of the year, only OneWeb launches were scheduled from the Vostochny cosmodrome. Due to the problems of the parent company, the launches were postponed to the second half of the year. Meanwhile, equipment for launching the Kondor-FKA domestic radar reconnaissance satellite has arrived at the Vostochny cosmodrome; this equipment will be used to prepare a workplace for pre-flight servicing of a serial spacecraft:



        Quote: astepanov
        And this makes me sad.


        Yaroslavna is sad and cries. lol
        1. Klingon
          Klingon 4 August 2020 11: 50 New
          -2
          nothing but military satellites
          we can’t run anything interesting and worthwhile. since PU and the rest of the Elves are not interested in scientific space. and moreover, as someone here well noticed, we know how to build stone rockets
          1. slipped
            slipped 4 August 2020 12: 04 New
            11
            Quote: Klingon
            nothing but military satellites
            we can’t run anything interesting and worthwhile.


            This is not a military satellite. It is a satellite for Earth remote sensing. Our domestic military satellites are launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome. In addition, we have just launched two newest civil communications satellites. laughing
            1. Klingon
              Klingon 4 August 2020 19: 18 New
              -2
              what's the difference, a military or a communications satellite, except for satellites and astronauts on the ISS we can do nothing. and that's a fact. the era of AMC remained in the USSR. Then we were proud of the Soviet cosmonautics. And now the mention of Roskosmos causes nothing but irritation.
              1. slipped
                slipped 4 August 2020 23: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Klingon
                what's the difference, a military or a communications satellite, except for satellites and astronauts on the ISS we can do nothing. and that's a fact. the era of AMC remained in the USSR.


                Wanguyu, when the station "Luna-25" lands on the moon, the whiners on the VO will say - "yes, this moon is not even a planet, we can not have normal planets," and when the landing module "Kazachok" cry - "Rashka FSE, this is not a rover" laughing
          2. Comrade Michael
            Comrade Michael 4 August 2020 12: 21 New
            +3
            Our people are now stupid and backward ... 30 years of brain processing have given an excellent result. How do you explain the value of science and research to them, if the majority now think at the level of the 16-17 centuries? Anything that does not shoot or kill or frighten at least enemies is no longer interesting to anyone ... And military achievements are mainly for bragging, parades and PR ...
            1. UserGun
              UserGun 4 August 2020 12: 32 New
              0
              Alas. sadly, but it is.
        2. astepanov
          astepanov 4 August 2020 12: 04 New
          -2
          Quote: slipped
          For the first half of the year, only launches under the OneWeb program were scheduled from the Vostochny cosmodrome. Due to the problems of the parent company, the launches were postponed to the second half of the year.
          So I say: nothing flies. What has been planned does not mean anything: any dates will be postponed. By the way, the manned flight of the Eagle (federation) was originally planned for 2018, now - for 2024. Probably shifted again. And the Americans fly. The next mars rover to Mars was set up last week ...
        3. Perseverance
          Perseverance 4 August 2020 12: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: slipped
          Let me remind you. The launch of the Oryol spacecraft is scheduled for 2023. For this, the Amur space rocket complex is being built at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

          lol


          MOSCOW, October 14 - RIA Novosti. The cosmonauts trained to be accommodated in a promising transport spacecraft "at launch", to leave the spacecraft's reentry vehicle after landing, and also to get out of this spacecraft in the event of emergency situations, according to a message on the website of RSC Energia, the lead developer of the new spacecraft.
          As reported, the full-scale mockup of the PTK NP was first presented at the MAKS-2013 aerospace show... This is no longer a concept, but an almost finished ship, the first test launch of which in unmanned mode is planned for 2017 - early 2018, and manned - closer to 2020. The new generation spacecraft is reusable and is designed to carry out up to ten flights, both to the International Space Station (ISS) and to the lunar orbit.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 4 August 2020 13: 01 New
            -6
            So what?

            Nothing that Max originally planned to launch humans into space in 2014? And then in 2018?

            Can we still compare the budgets?
            1. Perseverance
              Perseverance 4 August 2020 13: 18 New
              +5
              Quote: Voyager
              So what?

              Nothing that Max originally planned to launch humans into space in 2014? And then in 2018?

              Can we still compare the budgets?

              They won the competition only in 2014.September 16, 2014, the winners of the final round of the program, Boeing and SpaceX, were announced to complete the development, certification and demonstration of their CST-100 and Dragon V2 manned spacecraft.
              The contract with Boeing amounted to $ 4,2 billion, with SpaceX - 2,6 billion, with the same contractual obligations: completion of the development and certification of transport systems, test and regular missions to the ISS /


              On August 21, 2014, representatives of RSC Energia announced that the development of the PTK NP would cost $ 6 billion (more than 200 billion rubles at the rate of August 21.08.2014, XNUMX).
              And how much before that is another question. And the ship was not and is not.
              1. Voyager
                Voyager 4 August 2020 14: 07 New
                +2
                Yes Yes Yes...

                https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/725351354537906176

                Quote: Perseverance
                with SpaceX - 2,6 billion

                Hello, this is a contract to complete development already submitted Crew Dragon
              2. slipped
                slipped 4 August 2020 23: 38 New
                0
                Quote: Perseverance
                On August 21, 2014, representatives of RSC Energia announced that the development of the PTK NP would cost $ 6 billion (more than 200 billion rubles at the rate of August 21.08.2014, XNUMX).


                Don't compare the Eagle to the low-pitched Dragon and Stariner. Compare with Orion. This is a different class of ships.
          2. slipped
            slipped 4 August 2020 23: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: Perseverance
            This is no longer a concept, but an almost finished ship, the first test launch of which in unmanned mode is planned for 2017 [/ b] - early 2018, and manned - closer to 2020.


            A preliminary project was shown at MAKS-2013. The contract for the ship was signed at the end of 2016. And then there was a revision of the entire structure of the ship. The reason is simple - the preliminary project was created based on the free receipt of foreign space technologies, but after 2015, Russia would have no access to them.

            Therefore, I had to deal with the maximum import substitution and redo the sketch. In the project, 80% of the equipment was changed to domestic components. Now the elements of the ship are being tested. The assembly of the aircraft will begin two years before the launch. The start is scheduled for 2023.
        4. snucerist
          snucerist 4 August 2020 13: 00 New
          +5
          1. "Is the launch of the spacecraft" Eagle "scheduled for 2023"? This makes me happy.
          And what is he actually needed for? Taxi still runs regularly on the ISS. Increase comfort and capacity? So Musk has already done this on Dragon 2.
          Can you tell me how much weight the now famous Eagle gained? If Mask's words about flights to the Moon inspire any hope, then the Eagle, alas, is not capable of this feat. Of course, the problem with native speakers is slowly starting to clear up, but it is far from rosy. And then, after all, our heads were screwed up so that it went around - either the Irtysh will be the launch vehicle for the Eagle, or Soyuz-5. Finally, they issued a kind of final version - Angara-A5P. Perfectly.
          The only problem is that the Angara-A5P, according to Rogozin, can be rolled out of the workshop no earlier than 2024. True, the head of Roscosmos is confused in words: either he has "The first manned launch vehicle Angara-A5P", with which it is planned to launch the new spacecraft "Oryol", will be produced at the Omsk enterprise "Polet" by 2024, "then suddenly already "" In 2023 the disposable version of the Oryol spacecraft will fly, and in 2025 - with a crew. "However, it doesn't matter. How many Dragons will leave for the ISS during this time - one can only guess. As well as the demand for Orel after that.
          2. Tell us, blind people, what we don't see? The Science module, which should have been on the ISS for a long time, but is it still on Earth? Or a stone rocket being built by Rogozin for the NCC? So we see this (and not only) everything perfectly.
          3. Have OneWeb's problems been acknowledged? Well, at least it was admitted.
          The problems for Vostochny are just beginning. Judging by the fact that the modernization of launch pads for Soyuz-2/5 begins at Baikonur, we will not see their launch from Vostochny. So, we'll see, Angara. Which today is not able to compete with Musk products. So is it not worth then the financing of the Angara project and the Vostochny cosmodrome to shift completely onto the shoulders of the RF Ministry of Defense, because only there this project can be in demand?
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 4 August 2020 13: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: snucerist
            If Mask's words about flights to the Moon inspire any hope, then the Eagle, alas, is not capable of this feat.
            Something I did not understand: the Eagle will just be adapted to the moon, and the Dragon will not fly there anymore ... if only Dragon-3 is some ...
            ... or Starliner ...
          2. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 19: 38 New
            -2
            It's funny to watch the masked men.
          3. slipped
            slipped 5 August 2020 00: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: snucerist
            1. "Is the launch of the spacecraft" Eagle "scheduled for 2023"? This makes me happy.
            And what is he actually needed for?


            From 2023 until the end of the current FKP, the Oryol spacecraft has flight design tests. It flies into orbit, to the ISS, and then astronauts will test it.

            STK Yenisei will become the regular carrier of the Orel NPP.

            Quote: snucerist
            Taxi still runs regularly on the ISS. Increase comfort and capacity? So Musk has already done this on Dragon 2.


            PTK NP "Orel" is not a ship for the ISS. It is for deep space, for autonomous flights to the Moon and Mars as part of the IPC.

            The dragon is no match for him. laughing

            Quote: snucerist
            Can you tell me how much weight the now famous Eagle gained?


            The spacecraft's weight is sufficient to carry out LCI during flights to the ISS. The Angara-A5P launch vehicle is a rocket with the forced RD-191M engines. This engine has already passed tests with an output of 110% thrust. That allows you to put 25,5 tons into low orbit.

            Quote: snucerist
            And then, after all, our heads were screwed up so that it went around - either the Irtysh will be the launch vehicle for the Eagle, or Soyuz-5. Finally, they issued a kind of final version - Angara-A5P. Perfectly.


            Yeah, Soyuz-5 was planned for a light version of the Eagle with a reduced compartment for service systems, since Soyuz-5 can put no more than 18 tons into low orbit, and in the manned version 17 tons. But in the process of redesigning the light version was abandoned in favor of the full version.

            Quote: snucerist
            The only problem is that the Angara-A5P, according to Rogozin, can be rolled out of the workshop no earlier than 2024.


            You are confused with the A5M carrier. It is he who is going to launch from 2024. The prototype PTK NP "Orel" will be launched by a modified A5 rocket with RD-191M engines - transitional to A5M (P).

            Quote: snucerist
            True, the head of Roskosmos is confused in words: either he has "The first manned launch vehicle Angara-A5P, with which it is planned to launch the new Orel spacecraft, will be produced at the Omsk company Polet by 2024," then suddenly already "" In 2023, the disposable version of the Oryol spacecraft will fly, and in 2025 - with a crew. "


            There is a lack of understanding of the essence of the subject of the conversation. lol I explained above why.

            Quote: snucerist
            However, it doesn't matter anymore. How many Dragons will go to the ISS during this time - one can only guess. As well as the demand for the Eagle after that.


            There is a generally stupid misunderstanding of the essence of the subject. lol The Soyuz MS spacecraft flies to the ISS, the next Soyuz MS-17 spacecraft flies in the fall.

            Quote: snucerist
            2. Tell us, blind people, what we don't see? The Science module, which should have been on the ISS for a long time, but is it still on Earth?


            The Science module was assembled in 2013. During the tests, the manufacturer found deviations from the design documentation. The module was sent back to the manufacturer for revision. Manufacturer - Center im. Khrunichev, was unable to eliminate the shortcomings in time for various reasons. In the end, it was necessary to replace parts of the module with new ones.

            The improved module MLM-U "Nauka" has been assembled, passed all the necessary tests and is ready to be sent to the cosmodrome. There it will be prepared for launch and will fly to the ISS in April next year.



            Quote: snucerist
            Or a stone rocket being built by Rogozin for the NCC? So we see this (and not only) everything perfectly.


            Blind people, that's why you lie. laughing A high-rise building, only stylized as a rocket and this is part of the NCC. And on the render it is perfectly visible:



            The NCC is being created with the money of the Moscow government, for the Moscow industrial cluster.

            Quote: snucerist
            3. Have OneWeb's problems been acknowledged? Well, at least it was admitted.


            OneWeb is a British company, not a Russian one. The UK government, along with Indian telecom billionaire Sunil Bharti Mittala's Bharti Enterprises, have decided to invest further in their satellites. Satellite production in Florida has resumed.

            Quote: snucerist
            The problems for Vostochny are just beginning.


            Конечно. laughing New jobs are being created there for other manufacturers of Russian satellites, and not just as now - the VNIIEM corporation.



            Quote: snucerist
            Judging by the fact that the modernization of launch pads for Soyuz-2/5 begins at Baikonur, we will not see their launch from Vostochny.


            The modernization of tables at Baikonur has nothing to do with launches from Vostochny. The 45th site is being modernized for the launch by Kazakhstan of the Soyuz-5 missiles purchased from us, the 2nd site - for the joint launch of our Soyuz-2 missiles with a commercial load with Kazakhstan and the UAE.

            Quote: snucerist
            So, we'll see, Angara. Which today is not able to compete with Musk products.


            A sect, such a sect, the main thing is to believe there. laughing

            Quote: snucerist
            So is it not worth then the financing of the Angara project and the Vostochny cosmodrome to shift completely onto the shoulders of the RF Ministry of Defense, because only there this project can be claimed?


            KRK "Amur" is being created with money from the Ministry of Defense.

            To be honest, I'm tired of commenting on the opuses of the blind dunno under the nickname snucerist. The chel carries an outright blizzard. laughing
        5. isker
          isker 4 August 2020 13: 12 New
          +1
          and the point is to throw beads? ..
          so we got to VO ... ((
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 4 August 2020 11: 07 New
      0
      Let the whole fsh go there.
  2. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 4 August 2020 09: 50 New
    +4
    Well done, what to say
    1. LMN
      LMN 4 August 2020 09: 59 New
      10
      Quote: Citelle 2013
      Well done, what to say

      So Ostap B. said already .. request

      -Yes! And then the universe. The chess thought that turned the county town into the capital of the globe will turn into applied science and invent ways of interplanetary communication. Signals will fly from Vasyuki to Mars, Jupiter and Neptune. Communication with Venus will become as easy as moving from Rybinsk to Yaroslavl. And there, who knows, maybe in eight years Vasyuki will host the first interplanetary chess tournament in the history of the universe!

      laughing
      1. For example
        For example 4 August 2020 10: 12 New
        -24
        Quote: Citelle 2013
        Well done, what to say

        Balabol. Like all American politicians.
        1. Varyag71
          Varyag71 4 August 2020 10: 26 New
          12
          and Russian?
        2. AUL
          AUL 4 August 2020 10: 56 New
          17
          Quote: For example
          Balabol. Like all American politicians.

          Maybe. But he balabolit after thathow it's done. And ours only promise, but do not.
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. shahor
              shahor 4 August 2020 22: 48 New
              +2
              Quote: For example
              Balabol and Mask are his sectarians.

              This balabol here recently conducted successful firing tests of the Starship with the Raptor engine. He starts jumping at 150 meters and landing, like with Fvlkon. He does. And balabols like you are working in a different place, where they have built a station on the moon long ago.
          2. orionvitt
            orionvitt 4 August 2020 12: 42 New
            -5
            Quote: AUL
            But he balabolishes after the deed is done

            What is done?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 August 2020 14: 47 New
        +1
        Now 5G towers are being erected in Vasyuki - so anything is possible.
        1. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 19: 40 New
          -3
          Quote: Vadim237
          Now 5G towers are being erected in Vasyuki

          From which cancer and coronavirus.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 August 2020 19: 45 New
            0
            No fast wireless internet
          2. astepanov
            astepanov 4 August 2020 21: 15 New
            +1
            Yes, cancer and coronavirus. And they also shine directly into the brain and produce chipping. Some commentators have it very noticeable. I recommend them a foil hat.
    2. credo
      credo 4 August 2020 13: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Citelle 2013
      Well done, what to say

      Interestingly, what is he good at ?.
      The Americans do not tell their people that Russia (and formerly the USSR) has been landing on water or land in a capsule for about 60 years. And then comrades from the United States straight into the bog and about a new era in the exploration of outer space are telling tales, as if no one had done this before. Disgraceful somehow, although this is not the first time for them.
      As for the exploration of Mars and the Moon, it seems that only through joint efforts this can be achieved, as in the case of the ISS, provided that countries such as Russia join this project and provide the Mask with their developments.
      Whether Russia needs this, I personally am not sure yet.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 4 August 2020 13: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: credo
        then it seems only by joint efforts this can be achieved
        Why do you think so? The Americans (and in the long term, the Chinese) will do just fine without us.
        Quote: credo
        how Russia will join this project and provide Musk with its developments.
        What are the developments?
        1. credo
          credo 4 August 2020 13: 54 New
          -2
          [quote = Greenwood] [quote = credo] then it seems only by joint efforts this can be achieved [/ quote] Where did you get this? The Americans (and in the long term, the Chinese) will do just fine without us. [/ Quote]

          The ISS shows how they do without us.

          [quote = credo] how Russia will join this project and provide Musk with its developments. [/ quote] What are the best practices? [/ quote]

          If the developments were not there, the United States would not have invited us to join the company of space exploration countries. They would have taken Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Georgia and three Baltic "tigers" together as ballast, but no, they don't - they don't need mediocrity in space for nothing.
          1. parma
            parma 5 August 2020 16: 12 New
            0
            Quote: credo
            If the developments were not there, the United States would not have invited us to join the company of space exploration countries. They would have taken Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Georgia and three Baltic "tigers" together as ballast, but no, they don't - they don't need mediocrity in space for nothing.

            I will ask only 2 questions, answering which (it is not difficult to find information in the public domain) you, as I hope, will understand what developments we have, and who cannot be without whom:
            1) the ratio of built / funded ISS modules by country
            2) Who, what and how delivered the modules for the ISS ...
            PS: for 10 years of shuttle flights (who does not remember since 2003 there was a break), the Americans brought cargo and people to the ISS MORE (!!!) than Russia in 22 years! Without the shuttle, it would not have been possible to assemble the ISS, why everyone can find information on their own ... With spacewalk, by the way, the same trouble ...
            ZZY: The ISS is definitely an international project, without the participation of our country (the project could simply die after the disaster of 2003, if not for our country), that the USA (the main builder and courier of everything and everything to the station) in its current form would simply not have taken place .. .. But we have never played the main / equal role in the ISS ... Sadly, but true ...
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 4 August 2020 09: 53 New
    +8
    Elon Musk: We're going to go to the moon
    ...And we?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 August 2020 09: 57 New
      12
      And, for some reason, I believe him ...
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 4 August 2020 10: 10 New
        11
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And, for some reason, I believe him ...

        Just a couple of years ago, it was on VO that the American astronautics were simply crucified, today they are extolled to the skies ... Even then they sculpted cons when they said that the Americans would return to manned space and they would have engines of any required carrying capacity ... hehe Now just despair and envy - "And we?" .... Our comrades are rushing about ... They used to shout Rogozin for the trampoline, but today they mock him ... And who are they mocking? They make fun of themselves! Look comrades your comments a few years ago on this issue. hehe ..
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 14 New
          +1
          A couple more years
          So they still remain today .. those who crucify with passion, and crucified .. and will crucify .. For - "patriots" .. they have such a fate ..))
          And those who looked at the situation impartially saw the difference in their work.
        2. Nasrat
          Nasrat 4 August 2020 10: 44 New
          -3
          Guys who are interested - not a bad article

          "What prevented Crew Dragon from getting off the ship?"

          the beginning of the article, to understand what will be discussed:

          Yesterday, during the broadcast of the landing of the American spacecraft Crew Dragon, many noticed a hitch that arose before the opening of the side hatch. The gas analyzer showed an excess of nitrogen tetroxide concentration, a toxic fuel component of the ship's engines. The astronauts had to wait half an hour for the chemistry to disappear, and the rescue team spent this time in gas masks.

          reference:
          https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/151242.html
          1. Genry
            Genry 4 August 2020 11: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            The astronauts had to wait half an hour for the chemistry to disappear, and the rescue team spent this time in gas masks.

            Well, they thought of building heptyl engines into the ship. They are still afraid it is necessary that this heptyl during the flight does not "leak" into the habitable space.

            And in Soyuz, during the descent, the unit compartment (with all the chemistry) is completely undocked.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 4 August 2020 11: 46 New
              +1
              The article explains a lot ...
              1. Genry
                Genry 4 August 2020 16: 57 New
                0
                Quote: Nasr
                The article explains a lot ...

        3. slipped
          slipped 4 August 2020 11: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: Nasr
          Now it's just despair and envy


          Despair and envy are in the brains of only sectarians who like to talk to themselves here. laughing

          And we have work on the autumn launch of the next Soyuz MS-17 TPK with an international crew - we have been trained in the CPC for manual descent control:

          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 August 2020 11: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: slipped


            And we have work on the autumn launch of the next Soyuz MS-17 TPK with an international crew - we have been trained in the CPC for manual descent control:


            I do not doubt for a moment that our astronautics is still at the highest level.
        4. UserGun
          UserGun 4 August 2020 12: 38 New
          0
          You see, there is a certain threshold. When for 20 years you are fed with promises, promising paradise in a "separate civilization" and blatantly lie in your eyes, then this threshold is rapidly falling.
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 August 2020 12: 44 New
            0
            Quote: UserGun
            You see, there is a certain threshold. When for 20 years you are fed with promises, promising paradise in a "separate civilization" and blatantly lie in your eyes, then this threshold is rapidly falling.

            Simply, someone really wanted to be deceived, and therefore did not see reality! Who is to blame for this?
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 August 2020 10: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And, for some reason, I believe him ...

        Promising does not mean getting married, just as wanting a base on the moon does not mean having one. When they are drawn there, then it will be possible to talk about something in detail, but for now everything is together and Musk, Nasa and Roskosmos are pouring from empty to empty. The oceans and depressions on Earth have not yet been fully explored, but still there, with the Martians "fraternize".
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 51 New
          -6
          when they are drawn there, then it will be possible to talk about something
          Then you don't have to say anything ..
          What's the point of theorizing about the lunar base, when it will practically be there ..
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 August 2020 11: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Roman123567
            What's the point of theorizing about the lunar base, when it will practically be there ..

            You are still "theorizing", but its (base) is not there. The thing must be done, not talking about plans.
            Mattresses, and indeed to us, in fact, cannot make it "one mug", and therefore they cannot do without combining scientific and technological potentials.
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 4 August 2020 11: 24 New
              -9
              You are still "theorizing", but its (base) is not there.
              It should be so ..))
              The ISS is flying ... already !! And why talk about her now ..

              The thing must be done, not talking about plans.
              Well, people are doing it .. and we are discussing it ..

              Mattresses, and indeed to us, in fact, cannot be lifted into "one mug"
              There is no doubt about us ..
              And at the expense of mattresses, how many times have you heard "Well, when they ... then we'll talk" ..
              And the list of this "well, that's when" is already impressive !! And everything is successful everywhere ..
        2. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 4 August 2020 11: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Promising does not mean getting married, just as wanting a base on the moon does not mean having one. When they are drawn there, then it will be possible to talk about something in detail, but for now everything is together and Musk, Nasa and Roskosmos are pouring from empty to empty. The oceans and depressions on Earth have not yet been fully explored, but still there, with the Martians "fraternize".

          I absolutely agree with you, "we" would create an underwater station for a start. Or have learned to live autonomously at the north poles. Or have they come up with at least one theoretically plausible reason why we need to go to the moon or why the Hadron Collider was buried? How good it is to be a mere mortal, from 8 to 4 he saluted his homeland and dacha. Moon speak ..
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 4 August 2020 11: 34 New
          +5
          ... the oceans and depressions on Earth have not yet been fully explored ...

          Welcome hi and support good !!!
          Already in this century, a new species of orangutan was discovered (and they are intelligent!), A new species of rhinopithecus, a new species of raccoon --- olingito... The giant stick insect, an insect that was considered extinct in the last century, was found on another island.
          A 7mm frog, the smallest vertebrate, has been discovered in New Guinea! And still, this huge island is still inhabited by tribes that have never seen a white man!
          Not to mention that there is kogiya --- a dwarf sperm whale that has never been caught and harpooned!
          Although a more painstaking study of the Earth does not hinder, in my opinion, space flights. fellow
        4. Simargl
          Simargl 4 August 2020 14: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          The oceans and depressions on Earth have not yet been fully explored, but still there, with the Martians "fraternize".
          This is exactly what Roskosmos should handle? Or are there specialized departments?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 August 2020 16: 03 New
            -1
            Quote: Simargl
            This is exactly what Roskosmos should handle? Or are there specialized departments?

            I won't say about the relevant departments, but the fact that there is an attempt to drag a "competitor" into the costly race of space exploration is present, it is a fact. Today, rightly so, we have nothing else to do but build a base on the moon with dim prospects, while simultaneously putting the vegetable on our Arctic interests. Musk is a mangy private trader, but at the same time we must admit a rich man who is trying to impose a space race on the state. Private trader to the state! It seems that the financing of this "whim" will be shared between Max and the United States, at least in reimbursing insurance for failed launches, while in Russia, all risks will be paid from the budget. You see, here, with one goal, the approaches are different, but there is one ultimate goal - to hang on the neck of the “competitor” multibillion-dollar costs, which will definitely not be directed to the development of the economy, but will be inglorious and senselessly exhausted.
            PS - and yes, if my memory serves me, when we pledged not to enter into a discussion. hi
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 4 August 2020 16: 26 New
              -2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              there is an attempt to drag a "competitor" into the costly race of space exploration; it is a fact.
              As I understand it - the state?
              This is ridiculous when you look at the budgets of NASA and Roscosmos. Well, the budget will double - will it reach NASA?

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Today, rightly so, we have nothing else to do but build a base on the moon with dim prospects.
              Nobody talks about the permanent base.
              But some people are already practicing landing in a precisely specified area. Can you guess what this technology can be useful for?

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              at the same time putting the vegetable on their Arctic interests.
              Who put it down? Or do retirees need to distribute?

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              who is trying to impose a space race on the state.
              Not at all! He stupidly dragged a significant part of the launches onto himself. This is the space race. And the Moon is like this: a far outstretched perspective. We also need to figure out exactly how and where to pump hundreds of oil from space.

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              will be jointly and severally divided between Max and the United States, at least in reimbursing insurance for failed launches, while in Russia, all risks will be paid from the budget.
              A strange twist: the United States will pay for the Mask, and the budget for Roscosmos ... so the United States and the "budget" are one and the same thing, like BE. Or remember the printing press?

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              the approaches are different, but one ultimate goal is to hang on the neck of a competitor multibillion-dollar costs that will not be directed to the development of the economy, but will be ingloriously and senselessly exhausted.
              Ask the runners how it's done. Yes, even with the space race of the 60s, it was shown.
              But not getting into the "trend" - it can cost enormous losses. There will be 2-3 countries on the Moon and in other deep space, no more to steer. The rest - to collect the crumbs. And the standard of living in these countries will be quite different from the rest.
              But this is if (when) it "fires" ...
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 4 August 2020 11: 23 New
      +1
      Elon Musk: We're going to go to the moon
      ...And we?

      Forgive me for such a question, but why do we need the moon?
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 4 August 2020 12: 57 New
        -5
        Why would you "live autonomously at the north poles.", Or at underwater stations ??)
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 4 August 2020 14: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Roman123567
          Why would you "live autonomously at the north poles.", Or at underwater stations ??)

          At the poles, the skin is better preserved, where did you get the idea that you have to live at the underwater stations, you have to work there. What's your interest on the moon? And let's go to you, right we are not in a tavern.
    3. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 19: 41 New
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      ...And we?

      https://lenta.ru/news/2006/01/25/moon/
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 4 August 2020 09: 55 New
    -5
    #rogozinbatutluna
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 00 New
      -4
      The engineering approach is immediately visible ..))
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 4 August 2020 11: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Roman123567
        The engineering approach is immediately visible ..))

        Yeah, and close cooperation with alien civilizations ..
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 August 2020 10: 03 New
    14
    A lunar orbital station like the ISS is a smart idea.
    And the station on the moon too. Temporarily inhabited - arrived, lived, flew away.
    ----
    Mars, humans on Mars - a wilder idea based more on prestige
    and Musk's personal ambitions.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 08 New
      -4
      Lunar orbital station, like the ISS
      And what will be the advantage of such a station over the same ISS ?? It's harder to build, fly farther and harder .. But in fact - the same thing ..
      Here are the stations on the Moon - this is really more interesting .. But even this option seems to me still too complicated !! It is necessary, at least, to deliver the ISS there .. and land it on the ground .. and fix it .. So that several people can periodically be inside with convenience ..
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 4 August 2020 10: 10 New
        +3
        'And what will be the advantage of such a station over the same ISS "///
        ---
        As a staging post before landing on the moon.
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 16 New
          -9
          So the ISS already exists .. what's the difference at what point this transshipment point will be located ..
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 4 August 2020 10: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: Roman123567
            So the ISS already exists

            Until 2024, there is still silence on the extension of the term.
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 55 New
              -4
              Well, it means building a new ISS / extending the time ... but, again, in earth orbit ..
              It never occurs to anyone during a flight to Mars to build a transshipment base in a Martian orbit ..))
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 4 August 2020 11: 12 New
                -4
                The next ISS will be without Russia. We do not have technologies interesting to the West, we do not have money, we are extremely toxic for them. There are different options for the development of the situation, dividing the existing ISS into two as an option.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 4 August 2020 14: 54 New
                  +3
                  On the basis of the Science module, we will build a new station - Rogozin himself announced this, and he should not be trusted and respected.
              2. slipped
                slipped 4 August 2020 11: 18 New
                0
                Quote: Roman123567
                It never occurs to anyone during a flight to Mars to build a transshipment base in a Martian orbit ..))


                In the Russian Lunar Program, it is the ISS that will be a kind of "transshipment base" for flights to the Moon.
              3. dauria
                dauria 4 August 2020 11: 19 New
                +1
                It never occurs to anyone during a flight to Mars to build a transshipment base in a Martian orbit ..))

                We'll have to build if the need arises to fly back. Even with a one-time flight, it is better to leave the fuel in orbit, rather than lower and raise. Even to the moon.
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 4 August 2020 13: 06 New
                  -3
                  Well, no one lowered fuel to the moon (literally drops) ... but they didn't build a base in orbit either ...
                  But with Mars the situation is just "simpler" .. the main difficulty is just to get off the surface and get to orbit .. so you still have to lower the fuel there !!
                  And further to the Earth it is easier there ..))
        2. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 4 August 2020 11: 40 New
          -2
          'And what will be the advantage of such a station over the same ISS "///
          ---
          As a staging post before landing on the moon.


          An interesting term, "staging post" in space, will they feed the camels there or change the horses? Or will we throw in the provisions, kick off them with our feet and store them up to the moon? When you joke, insert emoticons, otherwise it's too thin what
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 11 New
      -3
      Mars, humans on Mars - a wilder idea based more on prestige
      and Musk's personal ambitions.

      On Mars, and so rovers travel normally .. and everything has been studied relatively well ..
      In terms of interest - not much steeper than the Moon .. And the difficulties are at least an order of magnitude more ..
      At least you can go back from the moon .. really explore .. and there - a one-way ticket .. fantastic ..
    3. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 4 August 2020 10: 24 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      A lunar orbital station like the ISS is a smart idea.

      For the military, it's just a great idea to make a station to control military satellites and orbital aircraft, with the ability to refuel and re-equip the latter. It is extremely difficult to muffle or shoot down, you need to spend less resources to maintain the earth's orbital group.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 4 August 2020 10: 34 New
        -4
        make a station to control military satellites and orbital aircraft, with the ability to refuel and re-equip the latter

        you need to spend less resources to maintain the earth's orbital constellation.

        Somehow it is two mutual exclusions ..))
        Let them first build such a station (with the ability to refuel and re-equip) in the earth's orbit .. and when they learn, and more resources appear, then you can swing into lunar orbit .. But there is no point in it .. fuel there (and back) to pull only ..)) This is, if you're lucky, in 100 years, not earlier ..
        1. Klingon
          Klingon 4 August 2020 11: 58 New
          0
          Why drag fuel there? we have already found water in lunar craters. It is from it that they will make fuel for ships starting from the moon
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 4 August 2020 13: 08 New
            -4
            )))) Well, maybe someday they will do it on the alpha-centaur .. fuel .. Surely, they will find it there too .. But this is still fantastic ..
      2. AUL
        AUL 4 August 2020 11: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Grazdanin
        For the military, it's just a great idea to make a station to control military satellites and orbital aircraft, with the ability to refuel and re-equip the latter.

        A very controversial idea!
    4. Nasrat
      Nasrat 4 August 2020 11: 38 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh

      ----
      Mars, humans on Mars - a wilder idea based more on prestige
      and Musk's personal ambitions.


      This is what the surface of Mars would look like if it, like the Earth, was covered by 71% of water

      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 August 2020 14: 57 New
        +1
        Mars - you just need to add less water.
      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 19: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Nasr
        This is what the surface of Mars would look like if it, like the Earth, was covered by 71% of water

        And if my grandmother had something that she does not have, she would be a grandfather, as our President said. So what?
        That's why you blurted it out here?
  6. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN 4 August 2020 10: 03 New
    -1
    Well, if Doug is Douglas, then Bob is not Robert!
  7. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 4 August 2020 10: 23 New
    -2
    Dmitry Neznaikin is silent about something. If only I would be glad for my colleagues in the shop.
  8. Ilya091
    Ilya091 4 August 2020 10: 24 New
    -4
    We are going further than ever before and taking the next steps in daring missions to the Moon and Mars.


    I invite you to donate now and help the children. Only for children, and no one else. Do you understand me?

    Ostap pulled out an identity card and a receipt from his side pocket.
  9. tanit
    tanit 4 August 2020 10: 56 New
    -1
    [/ quote] On July 31, Moscow hosted the dispatch of the multifunctional laboratory module (MLM) "Science" of the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS) to the Baikonur cosmodrome. The event was attended by the heads of Roscosmos, the Center. Khrunicheva and journalists.

    Deputy Director for Production of the Center. Khrunicheva Roman Khokhov said that the module will be shipped to Baikonur on the night of August 7. According to him, if the final tests of the module at the cosmodrome are successful, its launch is possible in April next year. [Quote]

    No, not a trampoline. But the unfinished construction was completed.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 11: 34 New
      -6
      dispatch took place
      I was already scared .. it was a sinful thing to think that it was launched ..)) And they just send it from Moscow ..

      MOSCOW, July 31. / TASS /. The launch of the Nauka multifunctional laboratory module (MLM) to the International Space Station (ISS) is planned for April 2021, the head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin told reporters on Friday.
      1. tanit
        tanit 4 August 2020 11: 35 New
        +1
        Alas, Protons will no longer fly from Baikonur this year.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 August 2020 12: 21 New
          0
          Quote: tanit
          Alas, Protons will no longer fly from Baikonur this year.


          Four heavy Russian missile launches have been planned for this year. One took place. Two launches were postponed - MLM-U to April next year, due to the sale of part of the seats in the Soyuz MS TPK for NASA at their request, and ExoMars left for the next astronomical window. Another launch of the heavy A5 rocket is scheduled for November.
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      3. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 19: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Roman123567
        And they just send her from Moscow ..

        And for what purpose, in your opinion? To start it.
  10. RUS96
    RUS96 4 August 2020 11: 18 New
    +1
    And they will fly to the moon again
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 4 August 2020 11: 48 New
      -2
      The whole question is why? For the sake of prestige? Times are not the same. New technologies?
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 4 August 2020 11: 54 New
      +1
      And they will fly to the moon again

      It will be as epic as the last time, the movie will be like a round-the-clock TV series - "Walk on the Moon". For the lead role, Jim Carrey is invited.
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 4 August 2020 12: 55 New
      0
      Quote: RUS96
      And they will fly to the moon again

      If they flew into orbit at the same pace as "again", then they will have a flight to the moon in the 22nd century.
  11. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 4 August 2020 11: 23 New
    -2
    Take Rogozin with you and leave there
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 4 August 2020 11: 50 New
      -2
      No-ee! To the Kolyma, to restore the road with a simple paver.
  12. 1536
    1536 4 August 2020 11: 45 New
    0
    The Americans should be congratulated on their first flight into space. Good luck and new achievements. We expect a second manned flight.
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 4 August 2020 11: 45 New
    -1
    God help me! But flying into orbit and a permanent base on the moon (rather a small town) are very different things.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 August 2020 15: 04 New
      0
      The flight and creation of the Lunar Orbital Station will proceed as follows
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 5 August 2020 06: 24 New
        0
        If I understand the video correctly, the base will be on the moon, not on the moon. Well, God, take it off. Let's talk about the economy. The cost of the ISS is 150 billion and it was built by the whole world. The lunar station will not cost less, this is the default. Estimated cost of the lunar base. the primary period is 10 billion (excluding content) and about 25-50 billion for maintenance per year. In order to afford it (and the United States can), the Yankees will have to completely scale down their military presence in the world and by a third in important regions for themselves By a third, cut the funding of their Navy, forgetting about the new ships. Can they do it? Certainly! Will they afford it? The question is open and oooooooochcheen controversial.
        PS: That is why all serious experts, their opinion has been abruptly stopped to be published, they say in unison that this is another scam of America.
  14. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 4 August 2020 11: 52 New
    -1
    The coming economic crisis, the signs of which are already being observed, will bury both Russian and American dreams and plans for the lunar program.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 August 2020 15: 09 New
      0
      Don't worry about not burying it.
  15. Klingon
    Klingon 4 August 2020 11: 53 New
    -2
    Quote: parusnik
    Elon Musk: We're going to go to the moon
    ...And we?

    he has on what, and we? although no wait, I completely forgot: we have! stone rocket and starting trampoline! wassat
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 4 August 2020 12: 58 New
      -3
      Quote: Klingon
      he has on what, and we?

      Let me know, what is it on? Not to orbit, to the moon.
  16. 5-9
    5-9 4 August 2020 11: 57 New
    +1
    This is the first time in world practice when people were delivered into orbit by a private spacecraft.

    Well ... again ... Boeing with Lockheed Martin is government structures ...
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 4 August 2020 12: 51 New
      -2
      There is a problem with translations.
      Private as not public.
      And private as not public (listed on the stock exchange)
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 4 August 2020 13: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: 5-9
      Boeing with Lockheed Martin is government agencies ..

      Since when did they become state-owned? NASA is a government agency. And Boeing with Lockheed Martin, ordinary joint-stock companies, with private capital, acting as a contractor for the state.
      1. 5-9
        5-9 4 August 2020 14: 03 New
        -1
        S - sarcasm ...
  17. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 4 August 2020 12: 09 New
    -9
    Well done Musk. But we have stability. We lie steadily on the sidelines of progress in a ditch. And not a single Western bastard will provoke us and lure us out of there. For not coming to a duel and competition is our strong point. Yes, and the people enjoy their darkness and backwardness in technology, they do not even understand why space and scientific research is needed ...
    1. slipped
      slipped 5 August 2020 00: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Comrade Michael
      Well done Musk.


      An American astronaut sits like this in thoughts: "we almost got sick ....."

    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 6 August 2020 07: 46 New
      +1
      Yes, and the people enjoy their darkness and backwardness in technology, they do not even understand why space and scientific research is needed ...

      I will probably surprise you that 95% of the world's population has no idea why space and scientific research is needed. So enjoy your uniqueness, don't revel in superiority, that's silly ..
  18. 123456789
    123456789 4 August 2020 12: 13 New
    0
    We're going to go to the moon, we'll have a base on the moon, we're going to send humans to Mars and make life multi-planetary, and I think this day heralds a new era in space exploration.

    Remember this old anecdote:
    - I want again (to the moon, to Mars) to Paris!
    - What have you already been there?
    - Not! But I already wanted to!

    2 August SpaceX's Crew Dragon with two astronauts on board with two astronauts on board made a successful landing in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Astronauts Robert Behnken and Douglas Hurley spent 62 days on the International Space Station, after which they returned to Earth.

    2 + 2 = 4?
  19. Bomb
    Bomb 4 August 2020 12: 24 New
    +1
    What will the head of the trampoline transport department answer to this?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 August 2020 15: 11 New
      -1
      He is not up to this, he thinks how to persuade the Ministry of Economic Development not to cut the Roscosmos budget by 60 billion rubles.
  20. Disorder
    Disorder 4 August 2020 13: 42 New
    -2
    The return of the Crew Dragon spacecraft to Earth heralded the beginning of a new era in world space exploration. NASA's further targets should be the Moon and Mars.


    lol Yeah, a repeat of the achievements of almost half a century ago. In fact, the Cru Dragon is a Gemini with a non-detachable instrument-assembly compartment. It remains to reproduce Apollo and fly to the Moon.
  21. tanit
    tanit 4 August 2020 14: 09 New
    -1
    "August 3, 2020, AEX.RU - The Russian Space Systems Holding (RKS, part of the Roscosmos State Corporation) has created the Orbit IV AN 1.2 information and telemetry system (ITS) for a new light-class launch vehicle" Angara-1.2 ". The system will provide measurement and control of parameters during the development and operation of the rocket."
    No, well, it's not about Tesla on Mars.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 August 2020 15: 14 New
      -2
      Five new launch vehicles and two new manned spacecraft are due to fly to the United States next year. The new information and telemetry system (ITS) "Orbit IV AN 1.2" for the new launch vehicle of the light class "Angara-1.2" is about nothing at all.
      1. slipped
        slipped 5 August 2020 00: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Five new launch vehicles and two new manned spacecraft are due to fly to the United States next year. The new information and telemetry system (ITS) "Orbit IV AN 1.2" for the new launch vehicle of the light class "Angara-1.2" is about nothing at all.


        We have a moon landing next year. Overproduction of carrier rockets in the United States is a problem for the United States itself, and in general "nothing", they could find a payload for them. laughing And to the ISS, our Soyuz MS flies beautifully. laughing
  22. prohogij60
    prohogij60 4 August 2020 15: 25 New
    +1
    "We're going to go to the moon"
    And the whole country is better at once!
  23. Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 4 August 2020 18: 04 New
    +2
    No one belittles the merits of the team (not himself and not only Musk did everything, often buying up other people's developments), but there is nothing breakthrough in them, let alone brilliant.
    Much is being done to the detriment of security.
    1. Comrade Michael
      Comrade Michael 5 August 2020 10: 32 New
      -5
      But we are as safe as possible. No space, no science, no technology .... The life of earthworms.
      1. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev 5 August 2020 11: 00 New
        0
        "You" is where? ... Russia still has it all.
        But the space program will be cut by 60 billion rubles, as well as the military program by more than 300.
        1. Comrade Michael
          Comrade Michael 5 August 2020 11: 03 New
          -4
          What do we have? At bureaucrats on paper?)))
  24. fa2998
    fa2998 4 August 2020 19: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: parusnik
    And the scale of theft in Roscosmos is cosmic.
    ... Not only in Roscosmos, Colonel Zakharchenko found money for two Angars, they found it from one, and how many were not found ... the white light did not converge on Zakharchenko ... how many more such ...

    Zakharchenko has little things, children for ice cream. Only one Cyprus, only in 18-19 years exported-3,5 trillion.
  25. Klingon
    Klingon 4 August 2020 19: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    On the basis of the Science module, we will build a new station - Rogozin himself announced this, and he should not be trusted and respected.

    what else did Rogozin say? this news doesn't even make me laugh. Rogozin says a lot in our country. his profession, he obliges to speak laughing
  26. Klingon
    Klingon 4 August 2020 19: 36 New
    -1
    Quote: Comrade Michael
    Well done Musk. But we have stability. We lie steadily on the sidelines of progress in a ditch. And not a single Western bastard will provoke us and lure us out of there. For not coming to a duel and competition is our strong point. Yes, and the people enjoy their darkness and backwardness in technology, they do not even understand why space and scientific research is needed ...

    Just look at our Elves ... who THERE needs science? Great PU? so he is only interested in military space. Lemon? Dimon is passionately fond of Tuscan wines and villas ... too lazy to further enumerate who "needs" science in our country, there is no longer any pride for the state, only one irritation causes, everything that could have been destroyed and the people were raped and continue to be milked.
    where is the limit of human greed ??
    I was proud of the achievements of my country, but it was called in four capital letters
  27. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 4 August 2020 19: 40 New
    -1
    We are waiting, sir. It is desirable that they sit near the lunar landing sites of some Apollo and show a panorama from the Moon ... laughing tongue wassat
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 4 August 2020 22: 05 New
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      So after all, they will bring and put foil models, trample footprints and take pictures.
  28. Clueless
    Clueless 5 August 2020 06: 47 New
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    Enough to drive the Mask. My childhood passed when in the magazines of Young Technicians and the like, they wrote about space, its exploration, to a flight to the stars. AND? Where is it all? We have not developed much for the last 2 decades, we sit at the station around the earth and all the things.
    And Musk is trying to do it. I personally do not care who is behind it, but I want to see my childhood dream that humanity will begin to conquer space.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 6 August 2020 07: 38 New
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      [/ quote] [quote = Sly] Enough to drive the Mask. My childhood passed when in the magazines of Young Technicians and the like, they wrote about space, its exploration, to a flight to the stars. AND? Where is it all?

      Don't you think it's strange that something that was created in the 60s in 6-7 years is now going to be done in 30 years !!! That is, I am comparing the timing of the creation of the Apollo project and the timing of today's flight to the moon !!!

      How can you believe a country that in the 70s showed a photo to the whole world supposedly from the Moon on which some objects did not have their shadow - that is, they were simply pasted on the photo later !!! How can you believe the news about US space achievements ??? If in some lunar photos from the 70s astronauts from the teachings of the same lunar missions on earth are inserted, but only turned 180% ... I understand that in the early 70s it was a cool photoshop !!!
      Considering the possibilities of modern computer graphics, Elon Musk can fly to the moon personally without even getting up from behind his computer and post "real video and photos" of his flights on the Internet !!!!

      In the world, now and 30 years ago, there is no real preparation for flights to the moon of a person - there is a 30-year chatter in the media and politicians about supposedly planned flights ... They just talk and just lie and nothing else, and Musk also noted !!!
  29. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 5 August 2020 07: 09 New
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    While the States are a mess, they have nothing to climb into space. Degenerates, pedophiles, homosexuals and other evil spirits are not needed there. Inhabited Space is against!
  30. indy424
    indy424 5 August 2020 09: 37 New
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    in the meantime, another threshold has been passed. the tank took off 150m !!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKytYZzeh5U&fbclid=IwAR2x0X9ytwASQ3ivgX0wm-BObIG7x_Q6GEkwQ-C1DBos6orWbyc3_N0Mgdg
  31. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 5 August 2020 10: 29 New
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    https://ria.ru/20200805/1575379545.html ----- С Байконура в Москву вернули три бракованные ракеты "Протон-М"
    03:04 05.08.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX. But our successes, envy Musk!
  32. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 5 August 2020 10: 38 New
    -6
    https://news.rambler.ru/tech/44598184-finansirovanie-roskosmosa-hotyat-urezat-na-desyatki-milliardov-rubley/ --Финансирование «Роскосмоса» хотят урезать на десятки миллиардов рублей Об этом сообщает "Рамблер". Вот будущее наших космических программ... И науки.
  33. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 29 August 2020 23: 37 New
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    how many not smart people, how nits got started on VO