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"It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

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Today the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko will address the citizens with an appeal. This upcoming address of the Belarusian leader attracts attention not only in Belarus and Russia, but also in a number of foreign countries. In fact, Alyaksandr Lukashenka himself fueled this interest in the appeal and in future elections. Warmed up by the detention of Russian citizens, who are now accused of "preparing provocations and riots during the election campaign."


The German newspaper Die Welt writes that the Belarusian president "demands explanations from Putin after the arrest of Russian mercenaries." German journalists relish the statement of Lukashenka, who actually accused Russia of "dirty intentions". But the same publication notes that the video recordings of the detention of Russians in a Minsk sanatorium look silly. The statement of the political scientist is cited that “if 33 Wagnerians were really going to start riots, they would definitely not move around Belarus in camouflage uniforms, in T-shirts with the inscription“ Russia ”and certainly would not stop in a large group in one place”.

They even comment on the situation in the Japanese press. Asahi Shimbun writes that "candidate housewives in Belarus have decided to throw the last dictator of Europe out of his seat." At the same time, to explain to his readers what kind of country Belarus is, the Japanese author uses the phrase "a small state to the west of Russia."

The Japanese author writes that “initially Lukashenka was elected by the will of the people, as he talked about building a socially just state”.

From the material:

The problem is that Lukashenka kept his administration, reproducing the stereotypes of the 1990s, but not adapting to the requirements of the new era, and as a result, Belarus's development potential was lost.

At the same time, the author attributes to Lukashenka's merits that Belarus “avoided the upheavals of neighboring Ukraine”.

Now, as the Japanese press writes, Lukashenka is facing "problems" before the elections. In particular, it is noted that modern Belarus economically completely depends on Russia. At the same time, the article notes that Lukashenka considers "Russia is ready to destabilize the situation in the republic." But even a Japanese author writes about this:

It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today. Indeed, for Russia, Belarus’s transition to a pro-Western course is the worst option, since it sees this in Ukraine.

The French media are openly bewildered why Minsk needed to spoil relations with Moscow, which is in fact the main ally of Belarus. French experts believe that this is how Lukashenko, perhaps, "demonstrates that he is independent - from anyone, including Russia."
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 August 2020 08: 39 New
    11
    The daddy's roof seems to be leaking!
    Or a cool setup.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 4 August 2020 08: 47 New
      16
      Quote: Victor_B
      Or a cool setup.

      "Подстава" она везде одна и та же. Вопрос только в способности власти купировать её.

      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 4 August 2020 09: 00 New
        16
        Виктор Петрович! Какая "подстава", если бы была подстава, то Лукашенко уже на следующее утро позвонил бы Путину со словами. Володя, не обижайся, тут мои напортачили, извини, я буду их "перэтрахивать". Лукашенко же полон энергии. Он всем показал, что вступил на тропу войны с РФ. Ну, ну. А ситуация с Януковичем ничего не подсказывает?
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 August 2020 09: 08 New
          21
          It seems that there is something that we do not know, so there is no logic in their actions, for us ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 29 New
            +4
            I see no other explanation. hi
            1. NIKN
              NIKN 4 August 2020 09: 49 New
              +7
              It looks like conspiracy theories are simpler here. Playing the card of Russia in any situation is a win-win. Russia will not go anywhere, but you will raise the rating, and maybe some money will be thrown into the defense of democracy and the West will not put a spoke in the wheels. After all, the west is not particularly delighted with Lukashenka .... So that everything is logical and everything is according to plan. In another version, the Maidan will suit the West, they have been swallowing saliva for a long time ... So, somehow everything is so
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 52 New
                +3
                It looks like conspiracy theories are simpler here. Playing the card of Russia in any situation is a win-win. Russia will not go anywhere

                Russia has already disappeared. This has been decided finally. IMHO.
                The question is how events will develop further.
                1. NIKN
                  NIKN 4 August 2020 10: 00 New
                  +6
                  Will squeeze the maximum out of the situation, the bits are eaten. It is not seen in the horse food will be, but schizophrenia in the stage of relapse, it's scary. How to stop the question. what
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 August 2020 12: 02 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alex777
                    The question is how events will develop further.

                    А так и будут развиваться, как с "майданутой" Украиной!

                    Washington doesn't need Lukashenko ANYTHING! And any agreements between Lukashenka and Washington are worthless in practice, because anyway they will be directed against himself and the peoples of R. Bclarus.
                    Washington always needs only full CAPITULATION of a country previously sovereignly independent from the United States!
                    It is noteworthy that the opposition protests in Belarus began shortly after the reopening of the US Embassy in Belarus - almost on the second day of its work.
              2. bayard
                bayard 4 August 2020 14: 48 New
                +2
                Quote: NIKNN
                It looks like conspiracy is simpler here

                And if you bring together a few facts?
                - Belarus has abandoned Russian oil and is now importing Azerbaijani oil via the Black Sea and through Ukraine via a pipeline. And also the American one through the Baltic states.
                - Belarus has restored diplomatic relations with the United States, a temporary attorney came to them before the arrival of Ch. And P. Ambassador (arrived a few days before the arrest of our guys).
                - Lukashenka asked the US for help against Russia.
                - in Belarus, mobilization began (training of reservists for 25 days. For comparison, in 2014, in Ukraine, mobilization began with training for 10 days).
                - Lukashenko's statements are militant and aggressive (against Russia).
                - в США озвучены планы создания в Восточной Европе "младоНАТО" из стран Прибалтики , Польши , Украины , Румынии , Болгарии ... и вероятно Белоруссии , после её выхода из ОДКБ .
                Incredible?
                Why?
                А.Г.Лукашенко известный поклонник Адольфа Гитлера , его дифирамбы двойного толкования иметь не могут . Его лживые заверения о "братских" намерениях давно дезавуированы . От строительства Единого Государства с Россией он ОТКАЗАЛСЯ .
                And here's another ...
                It is still unknown WHO HIS FATHER.
                Thinking a trifle?
                Not at all!
                And here's an example.
                By the start of the Korean War, our agents in British intelligence reported that MI6 had an agent in the Politburo.
                Member of the Politburo !!!
                Stalin put counterintelligence on his ears, checked everyone ... and could not find ...
                And it turned out to be the one who was least thought of - Khrushchev.
                belay Khrushchev?
                Этот "селянин в косоворотке" ? belay
                Yes . yes
                And all because no one knew the REAL father of this vampire Trotskyist.
                And his dad was ... a Polish aristocrat ... who lived in London at that time.
                И вот это - родословная сего члена Политбюро , была той "рукой в железной перчатке" , которая кррепко сжимала гениталии Никиты Сергеевича .
                Therefore, he killed Stalin.
                After that, he defeated the entire Stalinist personnel apparatus, ABOLISHED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USSR (!!!), introducing direct party leadership, through the local economic councils ... He surrendered Indonesia, Port Arthur, our naval base on the islands near the Danish straits ... a lot .. a lot of things this ghoul has done ...
                ... Now look at Lukashenka.
                On his affairs.
                In retrospect.
                The illegitimate son of a lonely country woman ...
                FATHER UNKNOWN.
                Но по жизни его кто-то постоянно "двигал" ...
                Despite the quarrelsome and eccentric character ...
                Несмотря на ОЧЕНЬ ЧАСТЫЕ переводы с одной работы на другую ... но всегда "блатные" , связанные с ... балабольством ...
                И вот когда на роль руководителя запланированного "Советского Заповедника" открылась вакансия ... тадамм fellow he jumped out like a devil from a snuffbox ...
                They even promised to make him tsar / president of All Russia ... lol yes ... And he sacredly believed in it ... And he prepared ... And even the Heir ... lol
                But it did not grow together. request
                Papa Kolya did not grow together ...
                And sucking in three throats at the Mother of Russia ... also does not work out ...
                And they do not allow to sell oil ...
                And debts are no longer written off ...
                And you will have to pay for the new nuclear power plant ... although it was built on credit ...
                And the order from the curators came ...

                Transformation of consciousness?
                Not .
                He has always been that way.
                And it's a shame for the brothers Belarusians ...
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 36 New
            -8
            Quote: cniza
            It seems that there is something that we do not know, so there is no logic in their actions, for us ...

            there is logic: to embroil VVP and Lukashenka. This medal has 2 sides. They succeeded, relations between VVP and Lukashenka are extremely hostile. Valery Solovey claims that the group was sent and turned over to Lukashenka from Moscow.
            Very interesting videos, I recommend, although after watching them there are even more questions request


            The same Nightingale said that players appeared in the Kremlin who wanted to discredit the GDP in all areas of its activities. request
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 4 August 2020 10: 08 New
              11
              Guard in his old age survived from his mind.
              Кириенко Росатом на таком высоком уровне поддерживал, все время до перехода в АП, что говорить, что он был не у власти, или что он - "экономический дефолт" может только полностью выживший из ума.
              And Petrel, and the Coalition, and much more, for the defense of the country, was done at Rosatom under Kiriyenko. I know firsthand. yes
              And yes, Kiriyenko is not a communist.
              А ВВП не такой "доверчивый" каким его хочет видеть Караулов. bully
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 4 August 2020 12: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: Alex777
                Kiriyenko Rosatom has supported at such a high level

                так же Кириенко получил звание "Герой России"...
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 4 August 2020 13: 46 New
                  0
                  так же Кириенко получил звание "Герой России"...

                  Yes, I forgot about Peresvet. From what can be said. wink
            2. cniza
              cniza 4 August 2020 12: 22 New
              +1
              But this is exactly from the series that you described ...
        2. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 4 August 2020 09: 23 New
          +1
          Apparently he decided to bargain the US with a little anti-Russian position.
          Well Yanukovych. It's the Ukrainians. And he thinks that he will be able to eat the fish and not wash the frying pan.
        3. snucerist
          snucerist 4 August 2020 09: 38 New
          -10
          The situation with Yanukovych suggests absolutely nothing. These are completely different situations. Yanukovych was tame, he traveled to Sochi at the snap of his fingers, defiantly refused to join the EU, for which he received the Maidan.
          The old man, however, is clearly erepenic and shows character.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 4 August 2020 12: 36 New
            +1
            Yanukovych was tame, traveled to Sochi at the snap of his fingers

            Are you broadcasting here from a parallel universe?
            you are probably a would-be oppositionist with your beckoning little world
            или великий укроарий, у вас так "модно" думать.
        4. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 4 August 2020 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: mikh-korsakov

          Виктор Петрович! Какая "подстава", если бы была подстава, то Лукашенко уже на следующее утро позвонил бы Путину со словами. Володя, не

          And Volodya, in order to keep Belarus for himself, could have called himself and said - Sanya, calm down, your displacement is not included in our plans.
          А он как всегда "держит паузу". Зачем?
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 4 August 2020 13: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            А он как всегда "держит паузу". Зачем?

            these are the unwritten rules of diplomatic etiquette.
            if Luka has questions to VVP, then he should call.
            GDP has no questions to bow (the detention of fighters is not the level of GDP), employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and consular offices in the Republic of Belarus work to arrest the fighters.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 4 August 2020 13: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: NEOZ
              these are the unwritten rules of diplomatic etiquette.

              Why are these rules between brothers?
      2. ender
        ender 4 August 2020 09: 15 New
        -14
        and Soros raised his fist ..

      3. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 4 August 2020 09: 21 New
        -6
        "It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

        Я всё больше утверждаюсь во мнении, что происходящее в Беларуси, это шахматная партия Путина и Лукашенко. И не важно, кто здесь играет белыми - важно кто выиграет партию. А партию похоже выиграет Россия и Беларусь, оставшись по прежнему союзным государством. Этой партией Путин и Лукашенко оставили не у дел белорусскую оппозицию - сплотив электорат вокруг белорусского президента. И сплотила их именно, как бы, борьба Лукашенко со "злобными русскими диверсантами". Оппозиции остаётся только стоять в сторонке со своими жёнами-кандидатками. Теперь нет сомнений, что выборы выиграет Лукашенко, а значит и Россия!
        Eh, you are my cons, cons ...! smile
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 34 New
          14
          И сплотила их именно, как бы, борьба Лукашенко со "злобными русскими диверсантами".
          Now there is no doubt that the elections will be won by Lukashenka, and hence Russia!

          Вы все это серьезно написали или так "толсто прикалываетесь"? wink
          Это по-вашему отношения "братских народов" (частей одного народа)?
          There are no words to see Russia's victory in arresting its citizens.
          1. demo
            demo 4 August 2020 09: 54 New
            -2
            Реинкарнация "хитрого плана Путина".
            Do not find?
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 4 August 2020 10: 43 New
              +2
              There is no exact information. And guessing is useless.
              For example, I know for sure that Furgal is a killer.
              It so happened that there is first-hand information.
              And how the events in Khabarovsk will end, I don't know.
              As no one knew that Crimea would return to Russia.
              1. demo
                demo 4 August 2020 11: 07 New
                0
                For example, I know for sure that Furgal is a killer.
                An assassin is someone who personally killed someone.
                Maybe the customer of the murder?
                This doesn't make much of a difference, but there is a definite difference.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 4 August 2020 11: 52 New
                  +5
                  My fingers will fall off if I write everything about Furgal.
                  How he behaved before Khoroshavin's arrest and how after.
                  How he prepared this popular support in case of arrest.
                  An assassin is someone who personally killed someone.

                  Not this way. The contractor would not have gone and killed without a customer.
                  The customer at least knows, and as a rule, contains the performers.
                  The customer is the main killer. yes
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 40 New
          -5
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          this is the chess game of Putin and Lukashenko.

          therefore, for conspiracy, yesterday's telephone conversation was in a raised voice and shouts? I don’t think so. In this situation, they are not players, they were used. But who? request
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 4 August 2020 10: 20 New
            +3
            Did you sit on a parallel phone and listen?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 4 August 2020 10: 30 New
              -5
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Did you sit on a parallel phone and listen?

              can you read, listen and search for information? laughing
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 4 August 2020 10: 36 New
                +6
                well, of course, right from Putin's personal account, all the information on the Internet at once ... well, but your main source is YouTube ... everything, if it's on YouTube, you know it is ... you don't have to answer, it makes no sense, you and I have radically different views
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 4 August 2020 12: 30 New
                +2
                Quote: Silvestr

                can you read, listen and search for information? laughing

                Главное в наше время не "читать, слушать и искать", а точно знать КТО выложил информацию в свободный доступ и с какой целью.
          2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 10: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Silvestr
            therefore, for conspiracy, yesterday's telephone conversation was in a raised voice and shouts?

            Where can you listen to this conversation?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 4 August 2020 11: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Where can you listen to this conversation?

              Valery Solovey
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 11: 11 New
                +3
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Where can you listen to this conversation?

                Valery Solovey

                Can you guarantee that the recording is genuine? Or did this Nightingale swear by his mother that everything was so, as he says?
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 4 August 2020 14: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Or did this Nightingale swear by his mother that everything was so, as he says?

                  open his channel a year ago and compare with today. Matches request
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 14: 15 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    open his channel a year ago and compare with today. Matches

                    Come on. In hindsight, anything can match.
                    Vaughn, diagonally gifted in the quatrains of Nostradamus, manage to find confirmation of events that have already happened. I won't even talk about Wang.

                    What kind of analytics can there be?
                    "Через год будут выборы в Белоруссии. Возможны провокации как со стороны власти, так и со стороны оппозиции."
                    Mystic! ... He knew in advance!
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 4 August 2020 11: 57 New
                0
                Valery Solovey

                This is the enemy of GDP. It's strange to trust him.
                Он же прямо заявил на вражьем "Эхо", что его имя в списке тех, кого будут прессовать если что. wink
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 4 August 2020 14: 08 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex777
                  This is the enemy of GDP. It's strange to trust him.

                  "враги нам лучшие друзья, они премудрости нас учат"
        3. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 4 August 2020 10: 22 New
          -2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          With this party, Putin and Lukashenko left the Belarusian opposition out of business - rallying the electorate around the Belarusian president.

          +1
          I won't be surprised. if Lukashenko himself paid our men. Say, you will sit here neatly, expensively, while I decide my affairs. They will treat you politely, they will feed you well, our products are all natural.
          Minus are stupid people who, apart from the direct text, see nothing. Now these couch generalissimo and throw me. ))
        4. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 4 August 2020 11: 14 New
          +2
          Alexander! Games are games, and the fate of 33 chopovtsy is so a game? After all, the guys, since they were published, clearly became restricted to leave Russia, if they certainly manage to get there. And then Lukashenka, after another portion of wild animals, will give them to Ukraine, then they will rot before the exchange. No, no matter how you feel about Putin, this is not his style. As for the nonsense of Karaulov. I will change Professor Preobrazhensky. Do not read Karaulov - never, never, he is the worst of all.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 4 August 2020 11: 26 New
            -1
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Alexander! Games are games, and the fate of 33 chopovtsy is so a game?

            Если я прав, то судьбе 33 чоповцев ничего не угрожает! А может быть(как написал в комментарии выше Al_lexx), эти бойцы могут получить не хилое вознаграждение за полученные "неудобства". Украина пусть и дальше пускает слюни: никто им наших ребят не отдаст! Потому что никто и не собирался этого делать.
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  2. Pereira
    Pereira 4 August 2020 08: 39 New
    0
    I also doubt it will shake it up. Apparently, the Ukrainian scenario suits Belarus quite well.
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  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 4 August 2020 08: 42 New
    +5
    In T-shirts with the words "Russia" ..

    Сразу уж с шевронами "ЧВК Вагнер..."
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 09: 12 New
      -8
      PMCs

      Considering that private military companies are prohibited in our country .. and there cannot be them by definition .. It turns out that this is the GosVK .. (you can not accept this, but it really is)
      And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 11: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Roman123567
        Considering that private military companies are prohibited in our country .. and there cannot be them by definition .. It turns out that this is the GosVK .. (you can not accept this, but it really is)
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))

        Reasoning in style:
        Since someone, somewhere, saw something similar to a flying saucer, it means that aliens exist already on Earth.
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..
      2. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 4 August 2020 11: 15 New
        +2
        Novel! But we are allowed private security companies, and PMCs are the phraseological unit of sales scribblers.
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 4 August 2020 12: 40 New
        -1
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))

        I read every post of this offended and nullified oppositionist - and I see how he wants the Russian woman well.
        You draw very few emoticons, your miraculous jokes will come in better when you draw a series of larger brackets.

        Sad life)
  5. smel
    smel 4 August 2020 08: 50 New
    +5
    Stupid move But father. Very stupid.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 4 August 2020 08: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: smel
      Stupid move But father. Very stupid.

      А вы не думали, что это подстава "наших", мягко говоря про западно настроенных граждан, в отношении союзного государства. Удар направлен как на Белоруссию, так и на нас.
      1. Flamberg
        Flamberg 4 August 2020 08: 58 New
        0
        How do you imagine that? Has the gypsy sent the turbidity to dad?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 4 August 2020 09: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Flamberg
          How do you imagine that? Has the gypsy sent the turbidity to dad?
          Quote: Livonetc
          What do you mean by organizing a setup?

          You are a false idea that the president is a king, and everyone, at the wave of his right little finger on his left foot, falls down, takes off his trousers and backs up with a jar of petroleum jelly outstretched in his hand, they say choose me, choose me - knock it back.

          Then you will understand that:
          "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

          Both we and they in different elites have different ideas about the structure of the country. When some elites have the same views here and here, they unite.
          1. Flamberg
            Flamberg 4 August 2020 09: 06 New
            0
            A lot of letters and everything is out of topic. Well, let's say we tied it by mistake, but then why is the dad playing this card? Or do you think these are really provocateurs?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 4 August 2020 09: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Flamberg
              A lot of letters and everything is out of topic.

              I'm used to answering questions. I sympathize with you. Clip thinking does not allow you to perceive even not very large texts.

              Quote: Flamberg
              Or do you think these are really provocateurs?

              The men themselves could have been used in the dark, but the one who sent them there seemed to be in the know.
              1. Flamberg
                Flamberg 4 August 2020 09: 19 New
                -2
                That is, in your opinion, are they really provocateurs? And daddy is driving you to Moscow correctly?
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 4 August 2020 09: 28 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  That is, in your opinion, are they really provocateurs? And daddy is driving you to Moscow correctly?

                  The answer to your question is a video to help you (you have difficulties with the perception of text information, perhaps with a video it is normal).

                  1. Flamberg
                    Flamberg 4 August 2020 09: 45 New
                    +1
                    Nonsense. No facts, only reflections on how to draw the United States into this situation.
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 38 New
                0
                I'm used to answering questions.

                Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?
                1. halpat
                  halpat 4 August 2020 10: 34 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex777
                  I'm used to answering questions.

                  Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                  Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?

                  As far as I understand, this was the usual traffic of employees of the chop / private military company - through Belarus. This is not the first group.
                  The mustachioed bulb was well aware of this traffic.
                  And he decided to stop one of the groups, and at first he was prompted / advised how it should work. So everything was done in "sound mind and memory." Another thing is that "sound mind" in this case is just a figure of speech. Deliberately made it shorter.

                  And I liked this:
                  ... the president is the king, and everyone, at the wave of his right little finger on his left foot, falls down, takes off his trousers and backs up with a jar of petroleum jelly outstretched in his hand, they say choose me, choose me ...

                  very accurate smile
                  although used by the author of the quote in a completely different, negative connotation :))
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 4 August 2020 11: 42 New
                    0
                    As far as I understand, this was the usual traffic of employees of the chop / private military company - through Belarus. This is not the first group.

                    Taking into account the fact that they were not allowed to pass at our border for a long time, options are possible. To the extent that they were late for the flight due to this delay.
                    There is no real information yet.
                    Why they sent those departing from the hotel to the sanatorium is also unclear.
                    1. halpat
                      halpat 4 August 2020 12: 42 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alex777
                      Why they sent those departing from the hotel to the sanatorium is also unclear.

                      I think it was much more comfortable to knit there.
                      The trade union chief in charge of this sanatorium was there a day before "operation Y" and made sure that everything was ready. He reported to the mustachioed Bulba and went to engage in other pre-election matters.
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 August 2020 13: 48 New
                        0
                        It is a possible option.
                        Lured, robbed ... Ugh ... Sheltered, warmed ...
                2. Boris55
                  Boris55 4 August 2020 11: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                  Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?

                  Watch the video. There are answers to all your questions.
              3. New Year day
                New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: Boris55
                The men themselves could have been used in the dark, but the one who sent them there seemed to be in the know.

                exactly.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 45 New
              -4
              Quote: Flamberg
              Well, let's say we tied it by mistake, but then why is the dad playing this card?

              wool the vastness of the Internet. The Americans obtained 80% of classified information from open sources.
              The answer to your question: Old Man was knocked from Moscow that a group according to his soul had left, consisting of 2 snipers. Old Man believes in Moscow. You believe her too, don't you?
              And what was Lukashenka supposed to do with such info? Flowers and a cake?
              1. Flamberg
                Flamberg 4 August 2020 09: 48 New
                +4
                Well, why didn't they take it on the hot? Why did they take them with bare butts? Where is the dirt and evidence against them?
                Indeed, in such cases, surveillance is established, and at the decisive moment people are taken so that no one has any doubts left.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 57 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  Well, why didn't they take it on the hot?

                  on Lukashenka's corpse? laughing Crime prevention!
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  Indeed, in such cases, surveillance is established.

                  Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes
                  1. Flamberg
                    Flamberg 4 August 2020 10: 00 New
                    +2
                    on Lukashenka's corpse? laughing Crime Prevention!

                    На этапе подготовки со "снайперской винтовкой", а не с голым задом.
                    Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes

                    So maybe you need to sit better on YouTube, while avoiding paranoid people whose ears of the State Department grow from each bush.
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 4 August 2020 10: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Flamberg
                      in which from each bush the ears of the State Department grow.

                      want to say that this is the machinations of the State Department? laughing
                      1. Flamberg
                        Flamberg 4 August 2020 10: 35 New
                        +1
                        Where did I hint at this?
                    2. Alex777
                      Alex777 4 August 2020 13: 51 New
                      0
                      На этапе подготовки со "снайперской винтовкой", а не с голым задом.

                      The person is not familiar with the basics of operational activities.
                      His source is the Internet. What do you want from him? request
                  2. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 4 August 2020 12: 46 New
                    -1
                    Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes


                    laughing I think you're pretending to be an adult. Well, you can't write it all that you write here - seriously.
                    You don't need to watch YouTube videos about politics until lunchtime, otherwise you will soon build a miracle of analytics based on dislikes / likes. I have already chosen Grudinin as president by watching videos on YouTube and analyzing likes

                    want to say that this is the machinations of the State Department?


                    it's funny to read jokes about the State Department from such characters. With such jokes, the characters seem to be actively hinting that the State Department is not an enemy. The enemy you know who.

                    Well, okay, I won't comment on you more today. We must quickly evacuate this dialogue. Disgusted
      2. bar
        bar 4 August 2020 09: 00 New
        +5
        What is the setup? The fact that 30 people settled in a camp site?
      3. Livonetc
        Livonetc 4 August 2020 09: 02 New
        +5
        Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?
        They sent the Wagnerites to Belarus?
        Or did they set up the KGB of Belarus by slipping disinformation into them?
        What do you mean by organizing a setup?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Livonetc
          Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?

          Некоторые наши очень-очень богатые "патриоты" уже обращались с службам США за получением индульгенции на жизнь после Путина (на март следующего года , возможно, уже будут назначены досрочные президентские выборы).
          They were taken away: you support him, what guarantees can there be? And THERE is ALL!
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 11: 08 New
            -1
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Livonetc
            Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?

            Некоторые наши очень-очень богатые "патриоты" уже обращались с службам США за получением индульгенции на жизнь после Путина (на март следующего года , возможно, уже будут назначены досрочные президентские выборы).

            Where did you get this information? Source please.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 4 August 2020 13: 32 New
              -1
              Where did you get this information? Source please.


              are you laughing? This is the oppositionist from the Crimea Sylvester and his mii
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 13: 35 New
                0
                This is the oppositionist from the Crimea Sylvester and his mii

                That is, an eccentric and windbag.
                It is strange that he did not claim that the earth was flat. What he also saw on YouTube.
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 4 August 2020 13: 39 New
                  -1
                  That is, an eccentric and windbag.


                  and I have no other opposition for you wassat Only such sylvesters and daisies123. Nulls)

                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 August 2020 13: 41 New
                    0
                    Well, and praise to Ahura-Mazda.
      4. Roman123567
        Roman123567 4 August 2020 09: 13 New
        -7
        It may well be .. The article seems to hint at this ..
      5. New Year day
        New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 41 New
        -1
        Quote: Boris55
        А вы не думали, что это подстава "наших", мягко говоря про западно настроенных граждан, в отношении союзного государства.

        for the first time I agree with Boris! hi
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 August 2020 08: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: smel
      Stupid move But father. Very stupid.

      Ну, Вам же в прессе написали, что "независимый он", но не дописали в скобках (от здравого смысла)
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 4 August 2020 09: 17 New
        +4
        Plus 100500! hi
  6. Moskovit
    Moskovit 4 August 2020 08: 50 New
    12
    Self-reliance is very costly. Russia is a relatively independent country and how much resources it has to spend on it. And Lukashenka thinks that there will be enough small provocations and flirting with the United States. The West never fulfills its obligations.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 4 August 2020 08: 54 New
      +4
      The West encourages this flirtation. So far, everything is going according to their plan.
      But where does Luka plan to run? Where are they waiting for him? Vilnius? Warsaw?
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 August 2020 09: 05 New
        +3
        He excludes such an option for himself, but such a plan should be ...
      2. Moskovit
        Moskovit 4 August 2020 10: 15 New
        +1
        Его ждёт гаагский трибунал. Как только он куда-нибудь сбежит, то сразу же нарисуется уголовное дело о преследованиях оппозиции. Чтобы не было повадно другим "диктаторам".
        It's like two and two. But Alexander Grigorievich thinks to deceive everyone.
  7. bar
    bar 4 August 2020 08: 51 New
    +3
    The French media are frankly perplexed why Minsk needed to spoil relations with Moscow

    Недоумевают не только французкие СМИ. Поведение "последнего диктатора", кроме как съехавшей крышей, объяснить невозможно. Сейчас Россия наезжать на него поостережётся, чтоб совсем не угробить его переизбрание, которое он и сам без нас успешно гробит. Но если после "законного переизбрания" Путин жостко не поставит бацьку в стойло, буду сильно удивлён. Придётся бацьке "платить и каяться". what
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 4 August 2020 08: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: bar
      Придётся бацьке "платить и каяться"

      Коллеги, уж давайте подождём сегодняшнее обращение Лукашенко к белорусскому народу и Национальному собранию, надеюсь "ВО" оперативно отреагирует на это, вот тогда и порассуждаем о ситуации, до выборов в РБ всего четыре дня.
      1. bar
        bar 4 August 2020 09: 03 New
        +5
        There is hardly anything new in today's address. But father is too late to rush, even if he entered his mind. Now he needs to continue to bend his crooked line, otherwise he will finally lose face before the elections.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 4 August 2020 09: 11 New
        +4
        Yes, this appeal has only two scenarios) in fact, he will either start to pretend to be the savior of the nation from Russia or will introduce martial law. there are simply no other scenarios. today everyone will see the final of the union state finally.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 August 2020 09: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: bar
      Придётся бацьке "платить и каяться".

      While he will repent, the guys, if they are given to Ukraine, will be killed !!!! And here no repentance will help. Personally, this worries me the most.
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 August 2020 09: 04 New
        +2
        It is unlikely that he will decide on this, but anything can be ...
      2. bar
        bar 4 August 2020 09: 06 New
        +3
        No need for hysterics. Nobody will give anyone anywhere. And the screams of Ukrainians and accusations of terrorism on Russia cannot be avoided, it has already happened. And, I hope, father will pay for it in full angry
        1. Tzar
          Tzar 4 August 2020 09: 20 New
          +1
          Я бы не был так уверен... Если на Украине от Батьки прячется какой-нибудь белорус, то он вполне может выменять его на парочку "боевиков". Вопрос в том, есть ли у РФ способы отбить у него такое желание на корню?..
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 43 New
            +1
            It is clinging now in Ukraine. yes
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: bar
          Nobody will give anyone anywhere.

          in the same way as Russia itself gives those who fought to Ukraine. You don't know that. Everything will depend on Lukashenka's choice, not on our desires
          Quote: bar
          But father will pay for it in full

          we, too. If he does, consider a completely different story begins
      3. prior
        prior 4 August 2020 13: 08 New
        -1
        On the issue of extradition
        Try to ask yourself the question: How did the Russians, who, according to the version flying through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day? About this, what is written in the passport? Or do the special services of Belarus have full information from our OVIR?
        Then what does Lukashenka have to do with it? And why is Putin so meaningfully silent?
        1. bar
          bar 4 August 2020 13: 26 New
          0
          Try to ask yourself the question: How did the Russians, who, according to the version flying through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day? About this, what is written in the passport? Or do the special services of Belarus have full information from our OVIR?

          Попробую ответить на этот вопрос. Наверняка все данные по "украинским гражданам", а по другому - по жителям ДНР/ЛНР, воевавшим с ВСУ, были у службы Авакова. И Аваков тут же поднял их как только ему от бацьки поступили списки задержанных. И плевать ему было на второе-третье-четвёртое гражданство задержанных. Ничего сверхъестественного. И именно передавший эти списки Лукашенко тут как раз и при чём.
          А что касается "почему молчит Путин", я написал выше, ты видимо не дочитал. Повторю - сейчас давить на Лукашенку опасно с т.з. возможности его переизбрания. Тот и так обгадился по полной и со своими закидонами подставил свои "перевыборы" под большой вопрос. А вот когда это бодяга закончится, и его наконец "законно переизберут", бацька, надеюсь, огребёт по полной.
          1. prior
            prior 4 August 2020 13: 34 New
            0
            You, too, apparently do not know that the special services do not give any information until the end of the investigation under the article on terrorism. And the lists could get into the press from journalists who took them from the registration books of a hotel or airport. Again the question arises: what does Lukashenka have to do with the alleged transfer of the lists to Avakov personally?
            Doesn't fit.
        2. Tzar
          Tzar 4 August 2020 13: 58 New
          0
          Quote: prior
          How did the Russians, who, according to the version of those who flew through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day?

          So there was information that all the information came through the NSA-SBU-KGB. The first in this chain has extensive information mining capabilities, hence the efficiency.
          1. prior
            prior 4 August 2020 14: 10 New
            0
            So I say that we are being held for lovers of hanging noodles on our ears, but there is no credibility.
            But emotions over the edge ...
    3. Livonetc
      Livonetc 4 August 2020 09: 06 New
      +3
      If the inhabitants of Belarus want to turn their country into a kind of ruin or Georgia, the flag is in their hands.
      Everyone chooses for himself.
    4. Roman123567
      Roman123567 4 August 2020 09: 14 New
      -11
      Но если после "законного переизбрания Путин жостко не поставит"

      Весь этот цирк Путиным и направлен на его "законное переизбрание"..
      As one of the options ..
  8. cniza
    cniza 4 August 2020 09: 03 New
    +6
    It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today. Indeed, for Russia, Belarus’s transition to a pro-Western course is the worst option, since it sees this in Ukraine.


    Even the Japanese guessed that this was not beneficial to Russia ...
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      that it is not beneficial for Russia ...

      from the word ALL!
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 August 2020 12: 24 New
        +2
        And not only from the word ..., I hope everything will clear up soon.
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 4 August 2020 09: 04 New
    +4
    We simply will never know what Lukashenka is saying to Putin, and there can be a very amusing conversation. In the meantime, these are all the insinuations of the Belarusian media about the coup.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 4 August 2020 09: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      We simply will never know what Lukashenka says to Putin, and there can be a very interesting conversation

      the conversation was very difficult, turning into shouts and abuse. These are the news from the network.
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 August 2020 12: 25 New
        +1
        Were you personally given to listen to the recording of their conversation? lol
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 4 August 2020 13: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        These are the news from the network.
        laughing laughing laughing И без малейшего осмысления, сразу "клац-клац-клац!!!". fellow wassat
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 4 August 2020 14: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          И без малейшего осмысления, сразу "клац-клац-клац!!!".

          just realized, it is you collectively emotionally. What you read in VO, you chew
  10. Roman123567
    Roman123567 4 August 2020 09: 09 New
    -8
    the Belarusian president "demands an explanation from Putin after the arrest of Russian mercenaries"
    Well, everything .. after such a victory is guaranteed ..))

    would not move around Belarus in camouflage, in T-shirts with the inscription "Russia" and certainly would not stop in a large group in one place


    People just wanted to see the spire ..
    There is a spire in Belarus, right ??
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 4 August 2020 09: 56 New
      0
      Кто ж не знает магазина ,,под шпилем"
  11. nobody111body
    nobody111body 4 August 2020 09: 11 New
    +3
    вот у нашего Владимира с Лукашенко "все плохо" а вот у штатовского трампа и некоего президента израильского нетаньяхо вроде-так вот у них "все хорошо" сми и писатели из тель-авива
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 4 August 2020 09: 29 New
      +3
      There are many more demonstrations and they are more numerous. But then I don't see any statements from our opposition that Trump should leave. Or Macron and Merkel should leave. Especially after the violent dispersal of the demonstrators. The fact that Trump, Merkel and Macron have no moral right to remain in office after they dispersed the protesters.
      A. Yes. I remembered. It's completely different. And they only care about what is happening in our country.
  12. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 4 August 2020 09: 33 New
    +2
    A strange story. Why throw a subversive group in such a way. It is a single group, it is to the sanatorium where documents are needed for settling. And everyone is dressed in military style. An anecdote comes to mind about Stirlitz walking along the corridors of the SS in Budenovka.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 4 August 2020 09: 46 New
      +2
      How do you like the employment contracts with the Belarusian PMC? wink
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 4 August 2020 12: 00 New
        +1
        By the way, I forgot to mention this. laughing
  13. Irek
    Irek 4 August 2020 09: 44 New
    -1
    The collective farmer will repeat the fate of Janek, but we will not evacuate him to Rostov.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 4 August 2020 10: 11 New
    0
    События "идут своим чередом".
    We will see everything, but will everything be clear, this is a big question ???
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 August 2020 10: 52 New
    +1
    German journalists savor ...
    Еще бы, хотя справедливости ради добавляют, что все выглядит глупо. Лукашенко конечно рассчитывал на другую реакцию запада - полную поддержку и обвинения в адрес России. Тогда можно было бы сказать своему лекторату, что весь "цивилизованный" мир и все "прогрессивное" человечество поддерживает меня, что по задумке увеличило шансы победы в первом туре. Но советчики оказались хреновые, да и постановка плохо срежиссирована.
  16. yfast
    yfast 4 August 2020 11: 02 New
    0
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    Does the situation with Yanukovych suggest anything?

    Where will Mr. Lukashenko run, if anything, to Ukraine?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 August 2020 11: 13 New
      0
      Quote: yfast
      Where will Mr. Lukashenko run, if anything, to Ukraine?

      Aha! It will soap itself into the prazydents of Ukraine.
  17. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 4 August 2020 11: 16 New
    +1
    I wonder what Rygorych will say? NOBODY in their right mind understands his actions! Have you really gone completely crazy? Nice little business!
  18. Alsur
    Alsur 4 August 2020 11: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Roman123567
    Но если после "законного переизбрания Путин жостко не поставит"

    Весь этот цирк Путиным и направлен на его "законное переизбрание"..
    As one of the options ..

    Putin is now the god of Belarus, also almighty, and everything that is done in Belarus is the work of his hands.
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 August 2020 13: 40 New
    0
    laughing Путину вообще начхать на этого удельного князька живущего и"строящего социализм" за счет русского мужика,даже если завтра его башкой будут играть футбол на площади его окружение laughing laughing
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 August 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    "It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

    Я всё больше утверждаюсь во мнении, что происходящее в Беларуси, это шахматная партия Путина и Лукашенко. И не важно, кто здесь играет белыми - важно кто выиграет партию. А партию похоже выиграет Россия и Беларусь, оставшись по прежнему союзным государством. Этой партией Путин и Лукашенко оставили не у дел белорусскую оппозицию - сплотив электорат вокруг белорусского президента. И сплотила их именно, как бы, борьба Лукашенко со "злобными русскими диверсантами". Оппозиции остаётся только стоять в сторонке со своими жёнами-кандидатками. Теперь нет сомнений, что выборы выиграет Лукашенко, а значит и Россия!
    Eh, you are my cons, cons ...! smile

    Comrade laughing I.V. STALIN (Dzhugashvili) would have shot this deviator first. laughing
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  22. Adimius38
    Adimius38 4 August 2020 13: 49 New
    +1
    there is nothing surprising, for many years it was possible to see how a wedge was being driven between Russia and Belarus. Who is doing this and what forces inside and outside the country is a big question. But the goal is obvious - to embroil and wrest Belarus from the Russian zone of influence. For years, a negative attitude of Russian citizens has been formed in relation to Belarus through various corrupt media. And I want to say they succeed. The point is not Bat'ka at all, but whether Russia is capable of preserving its ally Belarus in the future, or all the same, those unknown forces will win and Belarus will turn its back on us, become for us such as Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, but no more.
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 August 2020 13: 51 New
    0
    Well nothing. Luka has a cap-airfield of gigantic proportions, Pinochet envies in the other world.

    The bow will cover all the misdirected villains with one of his caps. laughing
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 August 2020 13: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Adimius38
    there is nothing surprising, for many years it was possible to see how a wedge was being driven between Russia and Belarus. Who is doing this and what forces inside and outside the country is a big question. But the goal is obvious - to embroil and wrest Belarus from the Russian zone of influence. For years, a negative attitude of Russian citizens has been formed in relation to Belarus through various corrupt media. And I want to say they succeed. The point is not Bat'ka at all, but whether Russia is capable of preserving its ally Belarus in the future, or all the same, those unknown forces will win and Belarus will turn its back on us, become for us such as Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, but no more.

    Who are those villains laughing Maybe you should take a closer look at your surroundings? JV Stalin did just that, the fish starts to rot from the head. laughing
  25. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 August 2020 14: 44 New
    0
    Why would Putin shake Lukashenko up? Daddy and family will shake it up. But what this shake-up will lead to is dark and incomprehensible.
  26. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 4 August 2020 18: 16 New
    +1
    And it is not necessary to shake it up - but to introduce a good package of sanctions. Because this swoop-bite-run tactic is not allied at all. And if we do not want Lukas to maneuver like Yanuca in his time, we must teach him, but not with carrot.
  27. sleeve
    sleeve 5 August 2020 07: 35 New
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    Из областей темного бреда. Предположим мы знаем,что будет майдан после выборов. Предположим мы знаем, что "веселые ребята" с той стороны уже на месте. И так же мы знаем,что на месте они с подачи и при содействии части элиты,в и.ч. силовиков,что делает невозможным взаимодействие официально. Мы знаем "центры силы", примерный сценарий,и график (условно). Сил резидентуры не хватает на противодействие. А в случае его успешного проведения "майдан" оборачивается просто в митинг (нет крови и сокральных жертв), а то и показательным предъявлением провокаторов. Наличие наших силовиков там-бред и нереальность. А вот "бдительные патриоты" это да. Но вот дальше... Дальше только "крот" льющий этот сценарий кому следует. А так же вполне реально случайные ребята с совпадающими "приметами",которых "нехорошие/не пробеларусские" силовики начали контриграть в надежде и снести сценарий и прикрыть провокацией собственный предстоящий "гешефт", да ещё и по случаю вбить клин между нами. Тут уж Григорич и вправду может не в курсе быть. Смотря как ему за вышесказанное "расскажут". Тогда,мне кажется, появляются некоторые ответы на вопросы.
    1. sleeve
      sleeve 5 August 2020 07: 36 New
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      Although where did the residency in Belarus come from? Then it's even clearer.
  28. Tota
    Tota 5 August 2020 19: 38 New
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    After the elections to the Republic of Belarus, Europe and the West will impose sanctions against Belarus, since the West will not want to take Belarus with Lukashenka at the helm. The West needs a purely Western president, and Lukashenko. Note, all Western and European media call this character the last dector of Europe, and no one will talk to the dektor. Then he will have to turn to Russia and then he will have to crawl on his knees.