"It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

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Today the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko will address the citizens with an appeal. This upcoming address of the Belarusian leader attracts attention not only in Belarus and Russia, but also in a number of foreign countries. In fact, Alyaksandr Lukashenka himself fueled this interest in the appeal and in future elections. Warmed up by the detention of Russian citizens, who are now accused of "preparing provocations and riots during the election campaign."

The German newspaper Die Welt writes that the Belarusian president "demands explanations from Putin after the arrest of Russian mercenaries." German journalists relish the statement of Lukashenka, who actually accused Russia of "dirty intentions". But the same publication notes that the video recordings of the detention of Russians in a Minsk sanatorium look silly. The statement of the political scientist is cited that “if 33 Wagnerians were really going to start riots, they would definitely not move around Belarus in camouflage uniforms, in T-shirts with the inscription“ Russia ”and certainly would not stop in a large group in one place”.



They even comment on the situation in the Japanese press. Asahi Shimbun writes that "candidate housewives in Belarus have decided to throw the last dictator of Europe out of his seat." At the same time, to explain to his readers what kind of country Belarus is, the Japanese author uses the phrase "a small state to the west of Russia."

The Japanese author writes that “initially Lukashenka was elected by the will of the people, as he talked about building a socially just state”.

From the material:

The problem is that Lukashenka kept his administration, reproducing the stereotypes of the 1990s, but not adapting to the requirements of the new era, and as a result, Belarus's development potential was lost.

At the same time, the author attributes to Lukashenka's merits that Belarus “avoided the upheavals of neighboring Ukraine”.

Now, as the Japanese press writes, Lukashenka is facing "problems" before the elections. In particular, it is noted that modern Belarus economically completely depends on Russia. At the same time, the article notes that Lukashenka considers "Russia is ready to destabilize the situation in the republic." But even a Japanese author writes about this:

It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today. Indeed, for Russia, Belarus’s transition to a pro-Western course is the worst option, since it sees this in Ukraine.

The French media are openly bewildered why Minsk needed to spoil relations with Moscow, which is in fact the main ally of Belarus. French experts believe that this is how Lukashenko, perhaps, "demonstrates that he is independent - from anyone, including Russia."
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  1. +11
    4 August 2020 08: 39
    The daddy's roof seems to be leaking!
    Or a cool setup.
    1. +16
      4 August 2020 08: 47
      Quote: Victor_B
      Or a cool setup.

      "Substitute" it is the same everywhere. The only question is the ability of the authorities to stop it.

      1. +16
        4 August 2020 09: 00
        Victor Petrovich! What a "setup", if there was a setup, then Lukashenko would have called Putin the next morning with the words. Volodya, do not be offended, here they screwed up mine, sorry, I will "screw up" them. Lukashenka is full of energy. He showed everyone that he had entered the warpath with the Russian Federation. Oh well. Does the situation with Yanukovych suggest anything?
        1. +21
          4 August 2020 09: 08
          It seems that there is something that we do not know, so there is no logic in their actions, for us ...
          1. +4
            4 August 2020 09: 29
            I see no other explanation. hi
            1. +7
              4 August 2020 09: 49
              It looks like conspiracy theories are simpler here. Playing the card of Russia in any situation is a win-win. Russia will not go anywhere, but you will raise the rating, and maybe some money will be thrown into the defense of democracy and the West will not put a spoke in the wheels. After all, the west is not particularly delighted with Lukashenka .... So that everything is logical and everything is according to plan. In another version, the Maidan will suit the West, they have been swallowing saliva for a long time ... So, somehow everything is so
              1. +3
                4 August 2020 09: 52
                It looks like conspiracy theories are simpler here. Playing the card of Russia in any situation is a win-win. Russia will not go anywhere

                Russia has already disappeared. This has been decided finally. IMHO.
                The question is how events will develop further.
                1. +6
                  4 August 2020 10: 00
                  Will squeeze the maximum out of the situation, the bits are eaten. It is not seen in the horse food will be, but schizophrenia in the stage of relapse, it's scary. How to stop the question. what
                  1. +1
                    4 August 2020 12: 02
                    Quote: Alex777
                    The question is how events will develop further.

                    And so they will develop, as with the "maydanut" Ukraine!

                    Washington doesn't need Lukashenko ANYTHING! And any agreements between Lukashenka and Washington are worthless in practice, because anyway they will be directed against himself and the peoples of R. Bclarus.
                    Washington always needs only full CAPITULATION of a country previously sovereignly independent from the United States!
                    It is noteworthy that the opposition protests in Belarus began shortly after the reopening of the US Embassy in Belarus - almost on the second day of its work.
              2. +2
                4 August 2020 14: 48
                Quote: NIKNN
                It looks like conspiracy is simpler here

                And if you bring together a few facts?
                - Belarus has abandoned Russian oil and is now importing Azerbaijani oil via the Black Sea and through Ukraine via a pipeline. And also the American one through the Baltic states.
                - Belarus has restored diplomatic relations with the United States, a temporary attorney came to them before the arrival of Ch. And P. Ambassador (arrived a few days before the arrest of our guys).
                - Lukashenka asked the US for help against Russia.
                - in Belarus, mobilization began (training of reservists for 25 days. For comparison, in 2014, in Ukraine, mobilization began with training for 10 days).
                - Lukashenko's statements are militant and aggressive (against Russia).
                - in the United States announced plans to create in Eastern Europe "Young NATO" from the Baltic countries, Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria ... and probably Belarus, after its withdrawal from the CSTO.
                Incredible?
                Why?
                A.G. Lukashenko is a well-known admirer of Adolf Hitler, his praises of a double interpretation cannot have. His false assurances of "brotherly" intentions have long been disavowed. He REFUSED to build a single state with Russia.
                And here's another ...
                It is still unknown WHO HIS FATHER.
                Thinking a trifle?
                Not at all!
                And here's an example.
                By the start of the Korean War, our agents in British intelligence reported that MI6 had an agent in the Politburo.
                Member of the Politburo !!!
                Stalin put counterintelligence on his ears, checked everyone ... and could not find ...
                And it turned out to be the one who was least thought of - Khrushchev.
                belay Khrushchev?
                This "peasant in a kosovorotka"? belay
                Yes . Yes
                And all because no one knew the REAL father of this vampire Trotskyist.
                And his dad was ... a Polish aristocrat ... who lived in London at that time.
                And this is the pedigree of this member of the Politburo, it was that "hand in an iron glove" that tightly squeezed the genitals of Nikita Sergeevich.
                Therefore, he killed Stalin.
                After that, he defeated the entire Stalinist personnel apparatus, ABOLISHED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USSR (!!!), introducing direct party leadership, through the local economic councils ... He surrendered Indonesia, Port Arthur, our naval base on the islands near the Danish straits ... a lot .. a lot of things this ghoul has done ...
                ... Now look at Lukashenka.
                On his affairs.
                In retrospect.
                The illegitimate son of a lonely country woman ...
                FATHER UNKNOWN.
                But in his life someone was constantly "moving" ...
                Despite the quarrelsome and eccentric character ...
                Despite the VERY FREQUENT transfers from one job to another ... but always "thieves" associated with ... jabbering ...
                And when a vacancy was opened for the role of the head of the planned "Soviet Reserve" ... tadamm fellow he jumped out like a devil from a snuffbox ...
                They even promised to make him tsar / president of All Russia ... lol Yes ... And he sacredly believed in it ... And he prepared ... And even the Heir ... lol
                But it did not grow together. request
                Papa Kolya did not grow together ...
                And sucking in three throats at the Mother of Russia ... also does not work out ...
                And they do not allow to sell oil ...
                And debts are no longer written off ...
                And you will have to pay for the new nuclear power plant ... although it was built on credit ...
                And the order from the curators came ...

                Transformation of consciousness?
                Not .
                He has always been that way.
                And it's a shame for the brothers Belarusians ...
          2. -8
            4 August 2020 09: 36
            Quote: cniza
            It seems that there is something that we do not know, so there is no logic in their actions, for us ...

            there is logic: to embroil VVP and Lukashenka. This medal has 2 sides. They succeeded, relations between VVP and Lukashenka are extremely hostile. Valery Solovey claims that the group was sent and turned over to Lukashenka from Moscow.
            Very interesting videos, I recommend, although after watching them there are even more questions request


            The same Nightingale said that players appeared in the Kremlin who wanted to discredit the GDP in all areas of its activities. request
            1. +11
              4 August 2020 10: 08
              Guard in his old age survived from his mind.
              Rosatom maintained Kiriyenko at such a high level, all the time prior to the transition to the Presidential Administration, that it can only be said that he was not in power, or that he was an "economic default".
              And Petrel, and the Coalition, and much more, for the defense of the country, was done at Rosatom under Kiriyenko. I know firsthand. Yes
              And yes, Kiriyenko is not a communist.
              And VVP is not as "gullible" as Karaulov wants to see it. bully
              1. +1
                4 August 2020 12: 57
                Quote: Alex777
                Kiriyenko Rosatom has supported at such a high level

                also Kiriyenko received the title "Hero of Russia" ...
                1. 0
                  4 August 2020 13: 46
                  also Kiriyenko received the title "Hero of Russia" ...

                  Yes, I forgot about Peresvet. From what can be said. wink
            2. +1
              4 August 2020 12: 22
              But this is exactly from the series that you described ...
        2. +1
          4 August 2020 09: 23
          Apparently he decided to bargain the US with a little anti-Russian position.
          Well Yanukovych. It's the Ukrainians. And he thinks that he will be able to eat the fish and not wash the frying pan.
        3. -10
          4 August 2020 09: 38
          The situation with Yanukovych suggests absolutely nothing. These are completely different situations. Yanukovych was tame, he traveled to Sochi at the snap of his fingers, defiantly refused to join the EU, for which he received the Maidan.
          The old man, however, is clearly erepenic and shows character.
          1. +1
            4 August 2020 12: 36
            Yanukovych was tame, traveled to Sochi at the snap of his fingers

            Are you broadcasting here from a parallel universe?
            you are probably a would-be oppositionist with your beckoning little world
            or great ukroariy, you have so "fashionable" to think.
        4. +1
          4 August 2020 12: 23
          Quote: mikh-korsakov

          Victor Petrovich! What a "setup", if there was a setup, then Lukashenko would have called Putin the next morning with the words. Volodya, not

          And Volodya, in order to keep Belarus for himself, could have called himself and said - Sanya, calm down, your displacement is not included in our plans.
          And he, as always, "pauses." What for?
          1. +1
            4 August 2020 13: 02
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            And he, as always, "pauses." What for?

            these are the unwritten rules of diplomatic etiquette.
            if Luka has questions to VVP, then he should call.
            GDP has no questions to bow (the detention of fighters is not the level of GDP), employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and consular offices in the Republic of Belarus work to arrest the fighters.
            1. +1
              4 August 2020 13: 19
              Quote: NEOZ
              these are the unwritten rules of diplomatic etiquette.

              Why are these rules between brothers?
      2. -14
        4 August 2020 09: 15
        and Soros raised his fist ..

      3. -6
        4 August 2020 09: 21
        "It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

        I am becoming more and more convinced that what is happening in Belarus is a chess game between Putin and Lukashenko. And it doesn't matter who plays white here - it matters who wins the game. And the party seems to be won by Russia and Belarus, remaining still a union state. With this party, Putin and Lukashenko left the Belarusian opposition out of business - rallying the electorate around the Belarusian president. And it was, as it were, the struggle of Lukashenka with "evil Russian saboteurs" that united them. The opposition can only stand on the sidelines with their candidate wives. Now there is no doubt that the elections will be won by Lukashenka, and hence Russia!
        Eh, you are my cons, cons ...! smile
        1. +14
          4 August 2020 09: 34
          And it was, as it were, the struggle of Lukashenka with "evil Russian saboteurs" that united them.
          Now there is no doubt that the elections will be won by Lukashenka, and hence Russia!

          Did you write all this seriously or are you making fun of it? wink
          Do you think this is the relationship of "fraternal peoples" (parts of one people)?
          There are no words to see Russia's victory in arresting its citizens.
          1. -2
            4 August 2020 09: 54
            Reincarnation of "Putin's cunning plan".
            Do not find?
            1. +2
              4 August 2020 10: 43
              There is no exact information. And guessing is useless.
              For example, I know for sure that Furgal is a killer.
              It so happened that there is first-hand information.
              And how the events in Khabarovsk will end, I don't know.
              As no one knew that Crimea would return to Russia.
              1. 0
                4 August 2020 11: 07
                For example, I know for sure that Furgal is a killer.
                An assassin is someone who personally killed someone.
                Maybe the customer of the murder?
                This doesn't make much of a difference, but there is a definite difference.
                1. +5
                  4 August 2020 11: 52
                  My fingers will fall off if I write everything about Furgal.
                  How he behaved before Khoroshavin's arrest and how after.
                  How he prepared this popular support in case of arrest.
                  An assassin is someone who personally killed someone.

                  Not this way. The contractor would not have gone and killed without a customer.
                  The customer at least knows, and as a rule, contains the performers.
                  The customer is the main killer. Yes
        2. -5
          4 August 2020 09: 40
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          this is the chess game of Putin and Lukashenko.

          therefore, for conspiracy, yesterday's telephone conversation was in a raised voice and shouts? I don’t think so. In this situation, they are not players, they were used. But who? request
          1. +3
            4 August 2020 10: 20
            Did you sit on a parallel phone and listen?
            1. -5
              4 August 2020 10: 30
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Did you sit on a parallel phone and listen?

              can you read, listen and search for information? laughing
              1. +6
                4 August 2020 10: 36
                well, of course, right from Putin's personal account, all the information on the Internet at once ... well, but your main source is YouTube ... everything, if it's on YouTube, you know it is ... you don't have to answer, it makes no sense, you and I have radically different views
              2. +2
                4 August 2020 12: 30
                Quote: Silvestr

                can you read, listen and search for information? laughing

                The main thing in our time is not "to read, listen and search", but to know exactly WHO has posted the information in free access and for what purpose.
          2. +1
            4 August 2020 10: 56
            Quote: Silvestr
            therefore, for conspiracy, yesterday's telephone conversation was in a raised voice and shouts?

            Where can you listen to this conversation?
            1. +3
              4 August 2020 11: 09
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Where can you listen to this conversation?

              Valery Solovey
              1. +3
                4 August 2020 11: 11
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Where can you listen to this conversation?

                Valery Solovey

                Can you guarantee that the recording is genuine? Or did this Nightingale swear by his mother that everything was so, as he says?
                1. +1
                  4 August 2020 14: 09
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Or did this Nightingale swear by his mother that everything was so, as he says?

                  open his channel a year ago and compare with today. Matches request
                  1. -1
                    4 August 2020 14: 15
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    open his channel a year ago and compare with today. Matches

                    Come on. In hindsight, anything can match.
                    Vaughn, diagonally gifted in the quatrains of Nostradamus, manage to find confirmation of events that have already happened. I won't even talk about Wang.

                    What kind of analytics can there be?
                    "In a year, there will be elections in Belarus. Provocations are possible both from the authorities and from the opposition."
                    Mystic! ... He knew in advance!
              2. 0
                4 August 2020 11: 57
                Valery Solovey

                This is the enemy of GDP. It's strange to trust him.
                He directly stated on the enemy's "Echo" that his name is on the list of those who will be pressed if anything. wink
                1. +1
                  4 August 2020 14: 08
                  Quote: Alex777
                  This is the enemy of GDP. It's strange to trust him.

                  "enemies are our best friends, they teach us wisdom"
        3. -2
          4 August 2020 10: 22
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          With this party, Putin and Lukashenko left the Belarusian opposition out of business - rallying the electorate around the Belarusian president.

          +1
          I won't be surprised. if Lukashenko himself paid our men. Say, you will sit here neatly, expensively, while I decide my affairs. They will treat you politely, they will feed you well, our products are all natural.
          Minus are stupid people who, apart from the direct text, see nothing. Now these couch generalissimo and throw me. ))
        4. +2
          4 August 2020 11: 14
          Alexander! Games are games, and the fate of 33 chopovtsy is so a game? After all, the guys, since they were published, clearly became restricted to leave Russia, if they certainly manage to get there. And then Lukashenka, after another portion of wild animals, will give them to Ukraine, then they will rot before the exchange. No, no matter how you feel about Putin, this is not his style. As for the nonsense of Karaulov. I will change Professor Preobrazhensky. Do not read Karaulov - never, never, he is the worst of all.
          1. -1
            4 August 2020 11: 26
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Alexander! Games are games, and the fate of 33 chopovtsy is so a game?

            If I am right, then nothing threatens the fate of 33 Chopovites! Or maybe (as Al_lexx wrote in the comment above), these fighters can receive a not feeble reward for the "inconvenience" received. Let Ukraine continue to drool: no one will give them our guys! Because nobody was going to do it.
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  2. 0
    4 August 2020 08: 39
    I also doubt it will shake it up. Apparently, the Ukrainian scenario suits Belarus quite well.
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  4. +5
    4 August 2020 08: 42
    In T-shirts with the words "Russia" ..

    Immediately with the chevrons "PMC Wagner ..."
    1. -8
      4 August 2020 09: 12
      PMCs

      Considering that private military companies are prohibited in our country .. and there cannot be them by definition .. It turns out that this is the GosVK .. (you can not accept this, but it really is)
      And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))
      1. 0
        4 August 2020 11: 02
        Quote: Roman123567
        Considering that private military companies are prohibited in our country .. and there cannot be them by definition .. It turns out that this is the GosVK .. (you can not accept this, but it really is)
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))

        Reasoning in style:
        Since someone, somewhere, saw something similar to a flying saucer, it means that aliens exist already on Earth.
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..
      2. +2
        4 August 2020 11: 15
        Novel! But we are allowed private security companies, and PMCs are the phraseological unit of sales scribblers.
      3. -1
        4 August 2020 12: 40
        And in that case .. it's practically an invasion ..))

        I read every post of this offended and nullified oppositionist - and I see how he wants the Russian woman well.
        You draw very few emoticons, your miraculous jokes will come in better when you draw a series of larger brackets.

        Sad life)
  5. +5
    4 August 2020 08: 50
    Stupid move But father. Very stupid.
    1. +4
      4 August 2020 08: 55
      Quote: smel
      Stupid move But father. Very stupid.

      And you did not think that this was a set-up of "ours," to put it mildly about Western-minded citizens, in relation to the union state. The blow is aimed at both Belarus and us.
      1. 0
        4 August 2020 08: 58
        How do you imagine that? Has the gypsy sent the turbidity to dad?
        1. +1
          4 August 2020 09: 04
          Quote: Flamberg
          How do you imagine that? Has the gypsy sent the turbidity to dad?
          Quote: Livonetc
          What do you mean by organizing a setup?

          You are a false idea that the president is a king, and everyone, at the wave of his right little finger on his left foot, falls down, takes off his trousers and backs up with a jar of petroleum jelly outstretched in his hand, they say choose me, choose me - knock it back.

          Then you will understand that:
          "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

          Both we and they in different elites have different ideas about the structure of the country. When some elites have the same views here and here, they unite.
          1. 0
            4 August 2020 09: 06
            A lot of letters and everything is out of topic. Well, let's say we tied it by mistake, but then why is the dad playing this card? Or do you think these are really provocateurs?
            1. 0
              4 August 2020 09: 16
              Quote: Flamberg
              A lot of letters and everything is out of topic.

              I'm used to answering questions. I sympathize with you. Clip thinking does not allow you to perceive even not very large texts.

              Quote: Flamberg
              Or do you think these are really provocateurs?

              The men themselves could have been used in the dark, but the one who sent them there seemed to be in the know.
              1. -2
                4 August 2020 09: 19
                That is, in your opinion, are they really provocateurs? And daddy is driving you to Moscow correctly?
                1. -2
                  4 August 2020 09: 28
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  That is, in your opinion, are they really provocateurs? And daddy is driving you to Moscow correctly?

                  The answer to your question is a video to help you (you have difficulties with the perception of text information, perhaps with a video it is normal).

                  1. +1
                    4 August 2020 09: 45
                    Nonsense. No facts, only reflections on how to draw the United States into this situation.
              2. 0
                4 August 2020 09: 38
                I'm used to answering questions.

                Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?
                1. +1
                  4 August 2020 10: 34
                  Quote: Alex777
                  I'm used to answering questions.

                  Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                  Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?

                  As far as I understand, this was the usual traffic of employees of the chop / private military company - through Belarus. This is not the first group.
                  The mustachioed bulb was well aware of this traffic.
                  And he decided to stop one of the groups, and at first he was prompted / advised how it should work. So everything was done in "sound mind and memory." Another thing is that "sound mind" in this case is just a figure of speech. Deliberately made it shorter.

                  And I liked this:
                  ... the president is the king, and everyone, at the wave of his right little finger on his left foot, falls down, takes off his trousers and backs up with a jar of petroleum jelly outstretched in his hand, they say choose me, choose me ...

                  very accurate smile
                  although used by the author of the quote in a completely different, negative connotation :))
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2020 11: 42
                    As far as I understand, this was the usual traffic of employees of the chop / private military company - through Belarus. This is not the first group.

                    Taking into account the fact that they were not allowed to pass at our border for a long time, options are possible. To the extent that they were late for the flight due to this delay.
                    There is no real information yet.
                    Why they sent those departing from the hotel to the sanatorium is also unclear.
                    1. 0
                      4 August 2020 12: 42
                      Quote: Alex777
                      Why they sent those departing from the hotel to the sanatorium is also unclear.

                      I think it was much more comfortable to knit there.
                      The trade union chief in charge of this sanatorium was there a day before "operation Y" and made sure that everything was ready. He reported to the mustachioed Bulba and went to engage in other pre-election matters.
                      1. 0
                        4 August 2020 13: 48
                        It is a possible option.
                        Lured, robbed ... Ugh ... Sheltered, warmed ...
                2. +1
                  4 August 2020 11: 01
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Here are some questions for you: how did these guys end up in Belarus?
                  Who deliberately sent them into a trap in your opinion?

                  Watch the video. There are answers to all your questions.
              3. +2
                4 August 2020 09: 46
                Quote: Boris55
                The men themselves could have been used in the dark, but the one who sent them there seemed to be in the know.

                exactly.
            2. -4
              4 August 2020 09: 45
              Quote: Flamberg
              Well, let's say we tied it by mistake, but then why is the dad playing this card?

              wool the vastness of the Internet. The Americans obtained 80% of classified information from open sources.
              The answer to your question: Old Man was knocked from Moscow that a group according to his soul had left, consisting of 2 snipers. Old Man believes in Moscow. You believe her too, don't you?
              And what was Lukashenka supposed to do with such info? Flowers and a cake?
              1. +4
                4 August 2020 09: 48
                Well, why didn't they take it on the hot? Why did they take them with bare butts? Where is the dirt and evidence against them?
                Indeed, in such cases, surveillance is established, and at the decisive moment people are taken so that no one has any doubts left.
                1. -2
                  4 August 2020 09: 57
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  Well, why didn't they take it on the hot?

                  on Lukashenka's corpse? laughing Crime prevention!
                  Quote: Flamberg
                  Indeed, in such cases, surveillance is established.

                  Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes
                  1. +2
                    4 August 2020 10: 00
                    on Lukashenka's corpse? laughing Crime Prevention!

                    At the stage of preparation with a "sniper rifle", and not with a bare bottom.
                    Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes

                    So maybe you need to sit better on YouTube, while avoiding paranoid people whose ears of the State Department grow from each bush.
                    1. 0
                      4 August 2020 10: 32
                      Quote: Flamberg
                      in which from each bush the ears of the State Department grow.

                      want to say that this is the machinations of the State Department? laughing
                      1. +1
                        4 August 2020 10: 35
                        Where did I hint at this?
                    2. 0
                      4 August 2020 13: 51
                      At the stage of preparation with a "sniper rifle", and not with a bare bottom.

                      The person is not familiar with the basics of operational activities.
                      His source is the Internet. What do you want from him? request
                  2. -1
                    4 August 2020 12: 46
                    Well, what's stopping you from sitting on YouTube? There, witnesses and participants in the action told everything in minutes


                    laughing I think you're pretending to be an adult. Well, you can't write it all that you write here - seriously.
                    You don't need to watch YouTube videos about politics until lunchtime, otherwise you will soon build a miracle of analytics based on dislikes / likes. I have already chosen Grudinin as president by watching videos on YouTube and analyzing likes

                    want to say that this is the machinations of the State Department?


                    it's funny to read jokes about the State Department from such characters. With such jokes, the characters seem to be actively hinting that the State Department is not an enemy. The enemy you know who.

                    Well, okay, I won't comment on you more today. We must quickly evacuate this dialogue. Disgusted
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        +5
        4 August 2020 09: 00
        What is the setup? The fact that 30 people settled in a camp site?
      3. +5
        4 August 2020 09: 02
        Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?
        They sent the Wagnerites to Belarus?
        Or did they set up the KGB of Belarus by slipping disinformation into them?
        What do you mean by organizing a setup?
        1. +1
          4 August 2020 09: 50
          Quote: Livonetc
          Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?

          Some of our very, very rich "patriots" have already applied to the US services for an indulgence for life after Putin (early presidential elections may already be scheduled for March next year).
          They were taken away: you support him, what guarantees can there be? And THERE is ALL!
          1. -1
            4 August 2020 11: 08
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Livonetc
            Explain who these pro-Western citizens are?

            Some of our very, very rich "patriots" have already applied to the US services for an indulgence for life after Putin (early presidential elections may already be scheduled for March next year).

            Where did you get this information? Source please.
            1. -1
              4 August 2020 13: 32
              Where did you get this information? Source please.


              are you laughing? This is the oppositionist from the Crimea Sylvester and his mii
              1. 0
                4 August 2020 13: 35
                This is the oppositionist from the Crimea Sylvester and his mii

                That is, an eccentric and windbag.
                It is strange that he did not claim that the earth was flat. What he also saw on YouTube.
                1. -1
                  4 August 2020 13: 39
                  That is, an eccentric and windbag.


                  and I have no other opposition for you wassat Only such sylvesters and daisies123. Nulls)

                  1. 0
                    4 August 2020 13: 41
                    Well, and praise to Ahura-Mazda.
      4. -7
        4 August 2020 09: 13
        It may well be .. The article seems to hint at this ..
      5. -1
        4 August 2020 09: 41
        Quote: Boris55
        And you did not think that this was a set-up of "ours," to put it mildly about Western-minded citizens, in relation to the union state.

        for the first time I agree with Boris! hi
    2. +5
      4 August 2020 08: 58
      Quote: smel
      Stupid move But father. Very stupid.

      Well, the press wrote to you that he was "independent", but did not add it in brackets (from common sense)
      1. +4
        4 August 2020 09: 17
        Plus 100500! hi
  6. +12
    4 August 2020 08: 50
    Self-reliance is very costly. Russia is a relatively independent country and how much resources it has to spend on it. And Lukashenka thinks that there will be enough small provocations and flirting with the United States. The West never fulfills its obligations.
    1. +4
      4 August 2020 08: 54
      The West encourages this flirtation. So far, everything is going according to their plan.
      But where does Luka plan to run? Where are they waiting for him? Vilnius? Warsaw?
      1. +3
        4 August 2020 09: 05
        He excludes such an option for himself, but such a plan should be ...
      2. +1
        4 August 2020 10: 15
        The Hague Tribunal awaits him. As soon as he escapes somewhere, a criminal case on the persecution of the opposition will immediately be drawn. So that it was not common for other "dictators".
        It's like two and two. But Alexander Grigorievich thinks to deceive everyone.
  7. bar
    +3
    4 August 2020 08: 51
    The French media are frankly perplexed why Minsk needed to spoil relations with Moscow

    Not only the French media are perplexed. It is impossible to explain the behavior of the "last dictator" other than a roof that has come down. Now Russia will be careful not to run into him, so as not to ruin his re-election, which he himself is successfully ruining without us. But if after the "legal re-election" Putin does not put his father in a stall, I will be very surprised. But father will have to "pay and repent". what
    1. +2
      4 August 2020 08: 59
      Quote: bar
      But father will have to "pay and repent"

      Colleagues, let’s wait for Lukashenka’s today's appeal to the Belarusian people and the National Assembly, I hope VO will promptly respond to this, and then we’ll speculate about the situation, before the elections in Belarus there are only four days.
      1. bar
        +5
        4 August 2020 09: 03
        There is hardly anything new in today's address. But father is too late to rush, even if he entered his mind. Now he needs to continue to bend his crooked line, otherwise he will finally lose face before the elections.
      2. +4
        4 August 2020 09: 11
        Yes, this appeal has only two scenarios) in fact, he will either start to pretend to be the savior of the nation from Russia or will introduce martial law. there are simply no other scenarios. today everyone will see the final of the union state finally.
    2. +2
      4 August 2020 09: 00
      Quote: bar
      But father will have to "pay and repent".

      While he will repent, the guys, if they are given to Ukraine, will be killed !!!! And here no repentance will help. Personally, this worries me the most.
      1. +2
        4 August 2020 09: 04
        It is unlikely that he will decide on this, but anything can be ...
      2. bar
        +3
        4 August 2020 09: 06
        No need for hysterics. Nobody will give anyone anywhere. And the screams of Ukrainians and accusations of terrorism on Russia cannot be avoided, it has already happened. And, I hope, father will pay for it in full angry
        1. +1
          4 August 2020 09: 20
          I would not be so sure ... If a Belarusian is hiding from Batka in Ukraine, he may well exchange him for a couple of "militants". The question is, does the Russian Federation have ways to discourage such a desire in the bud? ..
          1. +1
            4 August 2020 09: 43
            It is clinging now in Ukraine. Yes
        2. +2
          4 August 2020 09: 52
          Quote: bar
          Nobody will give anyone anywhere.

          in the same way as Russia itself gives those who fought to Ukraine. You don't know that. Everything will depend on Lukashenka's choice, not on our desires
          Quote: bar
          But father will pay for it in full

          we, too. If he does, consider a completely different story begins
      3. -1
        4 August 2020 13: 08
        On the issue of extradition
        Try to ask yourself the question: How did the Russians, who, according to the version flying through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day? About this, what is written in the passport? Or do the special services of Belarus have full information from our OVIR?
        Then what does Lukashenka have to do with it? And why is Putin so meaningfully silent?
        1. bar
          0
          4 August 2020 13: 26
          Try to ask yourself the question: How did the Russians, who, according to the version flying through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day? About this, what is written in the passport? Or do the special services of Belarus have full information from our OVIR?

          I will try to answer this question. Surely all the data on "Ukrainian citizens", and in another way - on residents of the DPR / LPR who fought with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, were at the service of Avakov. And Avakov immediately picked them up as soon as he received the lists of the detainees from his father. And he didn't care about the second, third or fourth citizenship of the detainees. Nothing supernatural. And it is precisely Lukashenka, who passed these lists, to do with it.
          As for "why Putin is silent," I wrote above, you probably did not finish reading. I repeat - now it is dangerous to put pressure on Lukashenka because the possibility of his re-election. The latter got rid of it in full and with his quirks put his "re-elections" into a big question. But when this idiot is over, and he is finally "legally re-elected," but father, I hope, will get rid of it in full.
          1. 0
            4 August 2020 13: 34
            You, too, apparently do not know that the special services do not give any information until the end of the investigation under the article on terrorism. And the lists could get into the press from journalists who took them from the registration books of a hotel or airport. Again the question arises: what does Lukashenka have to do with the alleged transfer of the lists to Avakov personally?
            Doesn't fit.
        2. 0
          4 August 2020 13: 58
          Quote: prior
          How did the Russians, who, according to the version of those who flew through Belarus to a third country, and probably had Russian passports in their hands, found a second citizenship, moreover, the citizenship of Ukraine, and the next day?

          So there was information that all the information came through the NSA-SBU-KGB. The first in this chain has extensive information mining capabilities, hence the efficiency.
          1. 0
            4 August 2020 14: 10
            So I say that we are being held for lovers of hanging noodles on our ears, but there is no credibility.
            But emotions over the edge ...
    3. +3
      4 August 2020 09: 06
      If the inhabitants of Belarus want to turn their country into a kind of ruin or Georgia, the flag is in their hands.
      Everyone chooses for himself.
    4. -11
      4 August 2020 09: 14
      But if, after "legal re-election, Putin does not give

      This whole circus is directed by Putin and is aimed at his "lawful re-election" ..
      As one of the options ..
  8. +6
    4 August 2020 09: 03
    It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today. Indeed, for Russia, Belarus’s transition to a pro-Western course is the worst option, since it sees this in Ukraine.


    Even the Japanese guessed that this was not beneficial to Russia ...
    1. +1
      4 August 2020 09: 53
      Quote: cniza
      that it is not beneficial for Russia ...

      from the word ALL!
      1. +2
        4 August 2020 12: 24
        And not only from the word ..., I hope everything will clear up soon.
  9. +4
    4 August 2020 09: 04
    We simply will never know what Lukashenka is saying to Putin, and there can be a very amusing conversation. In the meantime, these are all the insinuations of the Belarusian media about the coup.
    1. +1
      4 August 2020 09: 54
      Quote: APASUS
      We simply will never know what Lukashenka says to Putin, and there can be a very interesting conversation

      the conversation was very difficult, turning into shouts and abuse. These are the news from the network.
      1. +1
        4 August 2020 12: 25
        Were you personally given to listen to the recording of their conversation? lol
      2. 0
        4 August 2020 13: 06
        Quote: Silvestr
        These are the news from the network.
        laughing laughing laughing And without the slightest comprehension, just "click-click-click !!!". fellow wassat
        1. +2
          4 August 2020 14: 02
          Quote: Paranoid50
          And without the slightest comprehension, just "click-click-click !!!".

          just realized, it is you collectively emotionally. What you read in VO, you chew
  10. -8
    4 August 2020 09: 09
    the Belarusian president "demands an explanation from Putin after the arrest of Russian mercenaries"
    Well, everything .. after such a victory is guaranteed ..))

    would not move around Belarus in camouflage, in T-shirts with the inscription "Russia" and certainly would not stop in a large group in one place


    People just wanted to see the spire ..
    There is a spire in Belarus, right ??
    1. 0
      4 August 2020 09: 56
      Who doesn't know the store under the spire?
  11. +3
    4 August 2020 09: 11
    our Vladimir and Lukashenko are "all bad", but the US Trump and a certain Israeli President Netanyaho seem to be "all right" media and writers from Tel Aviv
    1. +3
      4 August 2020 09: 29
      There are many more demonstrations and they are more numerous. But then I don't see any statements from our opposition that Trump should leave. Or Macron and Merkel should leave. Especially after the violent dispersal of the demonstrators. The fact that Trump, Merkel and Macron have no moral right to remain in office after they dispersed the protesters.
      A. Yes. I remembered. It's completely different. And they only care about what is happening in our country.
  12. +2
    4 August 2020 09: 33
    A strange story. Why throw a subversive group in such a way. It is a single group, it is to the sanatorium where documents are needed for settling. And everyone is dressed in military style. An anecdote comes to mind about Stirlitz walking along the corridors of the SS in Budenovka.
    1. +2
      4 August 2020 09: 46
      How do you like the employment contracts with the Belarusian PMC? wink
      1. +1
        4 August 2020 12: 00
        By the way, I forgot to mention this. laughing
  13. -1
    4 August 2020 09: 44
    The collective farmer will repeat the fate of Janek, but we will not evacuate him to Rostov.
  14. 0
    4 August 2020 10: 11
    Events "take their course".
    We will see everything, but will everything be clear, this is a big question ???
  15. +1
    4 August 2020 10: 52
    German journalists savor ...
    Still, although in fairness they add that everything looks stupid. Lukashenko, of course, counted on a different reaction from the West - full support and accusations against Russia. Then I could tell my readership that the entire "civilized" world and all "progressive" humanity support me, which, by design, increased the chances of winning the first round. But the advisers turned out to be worthless, and the production was poorly directed.
  16. 0
    4 August 2020 11: 02
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    Does the situation with Yanukovych suggest anything?

    Where will Mr. Lukashenko run, if anything, to Ukraine?
    1. 0
      4 August 2020 11: 13
      Quote: yfast
      Where will Mr. Lukashenko run, if anything, to Ukraine?

      Aha! It will soap itself into the prazydents of Ukraine.
  17. +1
    4 August 2020 11: 16
    I wonder what Rygorych will say? NOBODY in their right mind understands his actions! Have you really gone completely crazy? Nice little business!
  18. +1
    4 August 2020 11: 49
    Quote: Roman123567
    But if, after "legal re-election, Putin does not give

    This whole circus is directed by Putin and is aimed at his "lawful re-election" ..
    As one of the options ..

    Putin is now the god of Belarus, also almighty, and everything that is done in Belarus is the work of his hands.
  19. 0
    4 August 2020 13: 40
    laughing Putin generally spit on this particular prince who lives and "builds socialism" at the expense of the Russian peasant, even if tomorrow his head will play football in the square, his entourage laughing laughing
  20. 0
    4 August 2020 13: 44
    Quote: SRC P-15
    "It is unlikely that Putin is going to shake Lukashenko today" - foreign press on the situation in Belarus

    I am becoming more and more convinced that what is happening in Belarus is a chess game between Putin and Lukashenko. And it doesn't matter who plays white here - it matters who wins the game. And the party seems to be won by Russia and Belarus, remaining still a union state. With this party, Putin and Lukashenko left the Belarusian opposition out of business - rallying the electorate around the Belarusian president. And it was, as it were, the struggle of Lukashenka with "evil Russian saboteurs" that united them. The opposition can only stand on the sidelines with their candidate wives. Now there is no doubt that the elections will be won by Lukashenka, and hence Russia!
    Eh, you are my cons, cons ...! smile

    Comrade laughing I.V. STALIN (Dzhugashvili) would have shot this deviator first. laughing
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  22. +1
    4 August 2020 13: 49
    there is nothing surprising, for many years it was possible to see how a wedge was being driven between Russia and Belarus. Who is doing this and what forces inside and outside the country is a big question. But the goal is obvious - to embroil and wrest Belarus from the Russian zone of influence. For years, a negative attitude of Russian citizens has been formed in relation to Belarus through various corrupt media. And I want to say they succeed. The point is not Bat'ka at all, but whether Russia is capable of preserving its ally Belarus in the future, or all the same, those unknown forces will win and Belarus will turn its back on us, become for us such as Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, but no more.
  23. 0
    4 August 2020 13: 51
    Well nothing. Luka has a cap-airfield of gigantic proportions, Pinochet envies in the other world.

    The bow will cover all the misdirected villains with one of his caps. laughing
  24. +1
    4 August 2020 13: 55
    Quote: Adimius38
    there is nothing surprising, for many years it was possible to see how a wedge was being driven between Russia and Belarus. Who is doing this and what forces inside and outside the country is a big question. But the goal is obvious - to embroil and wrest Belarus from the Russian zone of influence. For years, a negative attitude of Russian citizens has been formed in relation to Belarus through various corrupt media. And I want to say they succeed. The point is not Bat'ka at all, but whether Russia is capable of preserving its ally Belarus in the future, or all the same, those unknown forces will win and Belarus will turn its back on us, become for us such as Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, but no more.

    Who are those villains laughing Maybe you should take a closer look at your surroundings? JV Stalin did just that, the fish starts to rot from the head. laughing
  25. 0
    4 August 2020 14: 44
    Why would Putin shake Lukashenko up? Daddy and family will shake it up. But what this shake-up will lead to is dark and incomprehensible.
  26. +1
    4 August 2020 18: 16
    And it is not necessary to shake it up - but to introduce a good package of sanctions. Because this swoop-bite-run tactic is not allied at all. And if we do not want Lukas to maneuver like Yanuca in his time, we must teach him, but not with carrot.
  27. 0
    5 August 2020 07: 35
    From areas of dark delirium. Suppose we know that there will be a Maidan after the elections. Suppose we know that the "funny guys" on the other side are already in place. And we also know that on the spot they are at the suggestion and with the assistance of a part of the elite, in Ich. security officials, which makes it impossible to officially interact. We know the "centers of power", an example scenario, and a schedule (conventionally). Resident forces are not enough to counter. And if it is successful, the "Maidan" simply turns into a rally (there is no blood and sacral victims), or even an indicative presentation of provocateurs. The presence of our security officials there is nonsense and unreality. But "vigilant patriots" yes. But then ... Then only the "mole" pouring this scenario to whoever follows. And also quite really random guys with coinciding "signs", whom the "bad / not pro-Belarusian" security forces began to counterplay in the hope and demolish the script and cover up their own upcoming "gesheft" with provocation, and even on the occasion to drive a wedge between us. At this point, Grigorich really may not be in the know. It depends on how he is "told" for the above. Then, it seems to me, some answers to the questions appear.
    1. 0
      5 August 2020 07: 36
      Although where did the residency in Belarus come from? Then it's even clearer.
  28. 0
    5 August 2020 19: 38
    After the elections to the Republic of Belarus, Europe and the West will impose sanctions against Belarus, since the West will not want to take Belarus with Lukashenka at the helm. The West needs a purely Western president, and Lukashenko. Note, all Western and European media call this character the last dector of Europe, and no one will talk to the dektor. Then he will have to turn to Russia and then he will have to crawl on his knees.

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