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"Shield and sword" of the Soviet intelligence. Alexander Svyatogorov

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One of the partisan detachments during the Great Patriotic War


Many citizens who were born in the USSR, and those who were born after the collapse of the Land of the Soviets, watched the feature film "Shield and Sword". The four-part feature film was shot in 1968 and played very well at the box office. More than 135 million people watched the picture. Then none of the audience of the film knew that the prototype of the intelligence officer Alexander Belov was Alexander Panteleimonovich Svyatogorov, one of the outstanding Soviet intelligence officers during the Great Patriotic War and the first post-war years.

How a Zaporizhstal employee became a Chekist


Alexander Svyatogorov was born on December 15, 1913 in an ordinary working-class family in the city of Kharkov. In his hometown, the future intelligence officer first graduated from school, and then from a technical school, after which he worked for a long time at the Zaporizhstal plant. Since 1932, Alexander Svyatogorov worked at the enterprise, first as a foreman, then as a shift supervisor and at the end as a shop manager, having managed to build a rather successful working career. According to the recollections of his son, during the years of work he was both a leader in production and a Stakhanovite, and even came up with one technical innovation that allowed him to optimize the work process: one person could do the work of four workers on the conveyor.

The son also recalled that Alexander Svyatogorov was fond of sports, although he never differed in his heroic physique, height - 175 cm, shoe size - 42. At the same time, Svyatogorov had an excellent reaction and a good sense of humor. A civilian with a technical education who built a good career in manufacturing, he never studied the art of intelligence, but ended up in the ranks of the NKVD. It happened in the late 1930s.

At the same time, Alexander Svyatogorov himself recalled that he witnessed the repressions unfolding during these years, when every now and then not only the heads of the shops, but also ordinary workers disappeared from the plant. They summoned Svyatogorov to the NKVD and asked him to testify against a worker from Zaporizhstal named Melnichuk, who, under torture, confessed that he was a Japanese spy. In turn, Alexander Svyatogorov knew him exclusively as a decent and honest person, an ordinary hard worker from the countryside. During interrogation as a witness, Svyatogorov refused to slander an innocent person and recognize him as an enemy of the people. As a result, Melnichuk was still released, and Svyatogorov, most likely, was remembered as a person who did not shy away and did not testify against an innocent person.


Perhaps this история also played a role when Svyatogorov was invited to work in the state security agencies in 1939. The NKVD needed new cadres, competent and well-educated specialists. By that time, the organs themselves had been cleansed. Yezhov and many of the employees who took part in the great terror were shot, it was necessary to renew the staff. So Svyatogorov, quite unexpectedly for himself, became a Chekist. Among other things, he was engaged in the consideration of cases of previously arrested people, prepared his conclusions on various cases. Thanks to this, some of the arrested were released. At the same time, Svyatogorov studied foreign languages ​​and studied the basics of operational work, all these skills will be useful to him already during the Great Patriotic War.

Liquidation of the chief of the Kharkiv garrison


Alexander Panteleimonovich met the beginning of the war in Zaporozhye, where he continued to work almost until the surrender of the city. At this time, NKVD officers were involved in operations to search for German saboteurs and paratroopers, restore order in the rear of the Red Army troops, mine and prepare for the explosion of important urban industrial and infrastructure facilities. In addition to saboteurs, the Chekists had to fight with looters. Once they managed to detain the head of the savings bank, who was trying to escape with the bags full of money that he took from work.

After mining strategic objects in Zaporozhye, Svyatogorov left at the disposal of the captain of state security Leonov, who took over as head of the 1st Directorate (intelligence) of the NKVD of the Ukrainian SSR. This department was responsible for the creation of an agent network on the territory occupied by the Germans, and also oversaw the preparation of reconnaissance and sabotage groups and their transfer over the front line to the rear of the enemy. The administration was especially active in the regions of Kharkov and Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk). Only on the territory of the Zaporozhye region, with the participation of the 1st Directorate of the NKVD of the Ukrainian SSR, 59 partisan detachments were created with a total number of more than 2600 people. All of them were transferred to the rear of the enemy and were active in the occupied territory.

It is believed that with the participation of Alexander Svyatogorov, an agent network was organized in Kharkov, as well as mining of important objects: bridges, factories and individual buildings was carried out. Among other things, the Khrushchev House was also mined. A solid brick mansion in which Nikita Khrushchev, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine, lived in the pre-war years. The building was mined by saboteurs under the leadership of the well-known mine explosives expert Ilya Starinov. The calculation of the Soviet side fully justified itself; the high German authorities chose the mansion for their accommodation. The headquarters of the commander of the 68th Infantry Division of the Wehrmacht, Major General Georg Braun, was located in the building.

"Shield and sword" of the Soviet intelligence. Alexander Svyatogorov
Alexander Svyatogorov in the first years of service

Taught by the bitter experience of Kiev, the Germans examined all the buildings that were going to occupy. But in the mansion they found only the bait left by the Soviet miners, a powerful land mine in the basement. At the same time, a real radio-controlled mine was located deeper, its German sappers safely overlooked. The agents left in the city followed the movement of Brown, who was the head of the Kharkov garrison. When the general drove into the mansion and arranged a reception, information about this became known to Svyatogorov, who passed it on to Starinov, who activated an explosive device with a capacity of at least 350 kg in TNT equivalent. The activation was carried out using a radio signal, which was transmitted to the city from Voronezh. As a result of a terrible explosion, the mansion was destroyed, General Georg Brown himself, two officers of the division headquarters, as well as 10 privates and non-commissioned officers of the headquarters (almost all clerks) were killed under the rubble. There were also seriously wounded, among them the chief of the reconnaissance department of the 68th Infantry Division.

In February 1942, when Leonov died, his adjutant Svyatogorov actually continued the work he had begun. He himself studied hard and was engaged in the further preparation of saboteurs for throwing into the German rear. Alexander Svyatogorov was engaged in this work until the liberation of Kiev by Soviet troops in November 1943. After that, he himself was appointed commander of a reconnaissance and sabotage group, which was transferred to Poland in the Lublin Voivodeship.

Liquidation of the Lublin intelligence school of the Abwehr


In the Lublin Voivodeship, Svyatogorov's sabotage and reconnaissance group got used to it quickly enough, choosing one of the partisan detachments operating on the territory as its base. On the territory of Poland, the group trained intelligence officers, invented various legends for them and supplied them with German documents, which were prepared by a separate specialist. Svyatogorov sent trained agents to various enemy services, where they obtained intelligence, sabotaged and killed high-ranking German officials.

From 1944 to 1945 he took part in reconnaissance and sabotage activities in Poland and Slovakia. The scouts' success was the defeat of the 14th SS Grenadier Division "Galicia", which was recruited from Ukrainian volunteers. The division was not so much noted in the battles at the front as it stained itself in numerous war crimes against civilians in various European countries. In battles with the Red Army, it was defeated in July 1944 near Brody. The remnants of the division, including numerous deserters, fled west. Some of these fighters reached the partisan detachment, which included Svyatogorov.

Some of them managed to be recruited and introduced into the Lublin Intelligence School, thanks to which Soviet intelligence received a lot of useful information. Including personal photos of saboteurs trained at the school. At the same time, Svyatogorov himself appeared several times in Lublin in the form of a German officer, but was not at the school itself, carrying out general management and coordination of operations. When the scout learned that the head of the Lublin Gestapo, Akkardt, was attending the school, he decided to conduct a raid, which was successful. The intelligence school was defeated, and Akkardt was killed. At the same time, the scouts got valuable documents that were transferred to Moscow and helped to neutralize some of the saboteurs already transported across the front line. Around the same time, Svyatogorov began to act under the pseudonym Major Zorich, which he retained during operations in Slovakia. The pseudonym was taken in honor of the deceased Serbian friend Svyatogorov, who saved his life.


Alexander Svyatogorov

Another famous operation organized by Svyatogorov was the capture of Walter Feilengauer, assistant chief of the Abwehr, personal representative of Admiral Canaris. Hauptmann Feilengauer was taken to Lublin, where he arrived with his mistress and personal secretary, Sofia Sontag. At this time, a scout from Svyatogorov's detachment, Pole Stanislav Rokich, who was fluent in German, was already operating in the city. He was in the city as the Hauptmann of the German army with documents in the name of Friedrich Krause. In Lublin, he met the German translator and typist Taisia ​​Brook, who turned out to be Sontag's longtime friend. When this became known, Alexander Svyatogorov decided to implement a daring plan. In a short time, Krause's wedding with Brook was played out, to which Sontag was invited.

Knowing that Feilengauer was jealous, the scouts hoped that he would also come to the solemn event, and so it happened. As a result, Canaris' personal representative was taken alive at a rigged wedding, on which Soviet intelligence officers spent several thousand zlotys. But the event paid off completely, since the information received from Feilengauer was invaluable.

Later, Alexander Svyatogorov carried out sabotage and intelligence activities on the territory of Slovakia, was engaged in the release of Czechoslovak communists from prison, and participated in the organization of the Slovak national uprising. He acted in the area of ​​Banská Bystrica, where he landed as part of a sabotage detachment of 12 people on October 16, 1944. The detachment joined with the partisans of Alexei Yegorov and acted under the name "Foreign". Alexander Svyatogorov celebrated Victory Day in Slovakia, in Bratislava.

Post-war service of Alexander Svyatogorov


After the war, as a person who knew the Slovak language well, Svyatogorov, after an internship, ended up in Bratislava as vice consul of the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which was only a legal cover for intelligence work. From 1948 he worked in Berlin. Here he acted under the legend of the "defector", supervising operational activities. Svyatogorov carried out general management of the local station until 1961, after which he was recalled to Moscow. This was largely due to the fact that the KGB agent, the direct executor of the murder of Stepan Bandera, Bogdan Stashinsky, fled to West Berlin.


Alexander Svyatogorov in the form of a diplomatic officer

This was a serious blunder for Soviet intelligence, which affected the fate of many security officers working in the GDR. So Svyatogorov actually ended his career. He even managed to sit in Lefortovo, but was acquitted and released. At the same time, the head of the KGB of Ukraine found a position for Alexander Panteleimonovich at the Institute of Cybernetics of the National Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR, where Svyatogorov worked for a long time, overseeing the creation of codes and ciphers, as well as carrying out counterintelligence support for these activities. The famous Soviet intelligence officer died on June 22, 2008, six months before his 95th birthday. He was buried in Kiev at the memorial Baikovo cemetery.
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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 4 August 2020 06: 42 New
    +5
    An extraordinary and courageous person: to operate successfully on the territory of Poland, where not only Hitlerites, but also, in many ways, Poles, not everyone would have succeeded.

    But, judging by the photo, Alexander was not spoiled with orders.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 4 August 2020 08: 42 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      judging by the photo, Alexander was not spoiled with orders.

      Hi Andrey! Yes, I agree. Order of the Red Star, Order of the Patriotic War (I don’t know what degree), badge of Honorary State Security Officer. He was nominated for the title of Hero, but ... it seems that Stalin personally did not approve.
    2. Petrik66
      Petrik66 21 September 2020 11: 50 New
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      If you look closely, then: Two Orders of the Red Star, Two Medals, or For Courage or For Military Merit. That's all for the war. The badge of the Honorary State Security Officer - since 1957, the second - the jubilee badge of 50 or 60 years of the Cheka - KGB. I agree that an award-winning person is not spoiled.
  2. Kwas
    Kwas 4 August 2020 07: 29 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    But, judging by the photo, Alexander was not spoiled with orders.

    Well, I don’t know, not enough - not little, for such a heap of feats. I counted 36, including obviously foreign ones, plus medals with badges.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 4 August 2020 11: 27 New
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      Quote: Kwas
      Well, I don’t know, not enough - not little, for such a heap of feats. Counted 36, including clearly foreign ones, plus medals with badges.

      belay
      For all the deeds he received in the war-one single order of KZ... -cm. "Memory of the People"

      Another Order of OV in 1985 (everyone was given).

      Yes, and also the ZBZ medal.

      That's it!

      That's strange ...
  3. Phil77
    Phil77 4 August 2020 08: 18 New
    +5
    Good morning, the distinguished author did not mention the 1953 operation in Prague, when secret codes were stolen from the second secretary of the Israeli mission. Alexander Panteleimonovich was also the head of this operation. hi
  4. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 4 August 2020 09: 13 New
    +2
    In Soviet times, there was the Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR, without the adjective "national". But this is so, a small remark. The material is very interesting.
  5. Astra wild
    Astra wild 4 August 2020 12: 09 New
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    Colleagues, I am not an expert, but Soviet diplomats had no uniform. In the photo Svyatogorov in a form similar to the SS
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 4 August 2020 12: 29 New
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      Quote: Astra wild
      In the photo Svyatogorov in a form similar to the SS

      Vera, you won't believe it, but ... according to the decree of 7.10.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX, a uniform for employees was also introduced in the NKID. Yes, yes, and the dagger was also present! soldier
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 4 August 2020 12: 41 New
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        Sergei, actually I heard that so beloved Vladkub, by the way where he disappeared, Stalin introduced the form to almost everyone. But I could not imagine that she resembles an SS
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 13: 01 New
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          But I could not imagine that she resembles an SS

          Vera, by the way, during the SS war, the black uniform was no longer worn. All were dressed in "fieldgrau". Rings on caps and stripes differed, of course. Camouflage was widely used.
          An interesting fact: the 12th SS division "Hitler Youth" after 1943 sported in Italian camouflage - from the captured warehouses of the Italian army. There is such a camouflage - Figure # 2.

          1. SS Unterscharführer of the 1st Company of the 501st SS Panzer Battalion. 2. SS Standartenfuehrer Kurt Meyer, commander of the 12th SS Panzer Division "Hitler Youth". 3. SS Unterscharfuehrer of the infantry unit of the 12th SS Panzer Division "Hitler Youth". 4. Soldier of the infantry unit of the 12th SS Panzer Division "Hitler Youth".
          http://fastmarksman.ru/1_t/4_ss_15.php
          And only movie characters wore black uniforms! hi
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 4 August 2020 13: 31 New
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            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            And only movie characters wore black uniforms!

            That's right Nikolai! Since 1935, the SS had a dark gray uniform, including a ceremonial one.
          2. Astra wild
            Astra wild 4 August 2020 13: 55 New
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            Nikolay, do you think women are naive hens? I will disappoint you that the Waffen SS, and the 12th TD "Hitler Youth" is the Waffen SS, wore the general army uniform, I know. But the buttonholes resemble SS.
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 13: 58 New
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              Dear colleagues Astra and Phil, I recommend the book by Viktor Shunkov "Soldiers of Destruction" in the SS form. drinks

              here is the link:
              https://readli.net/soldatyi-razrusheniya-organizatsiya-podgotovka-vooruzhenie-i-uniforma-vaffen-ss/
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 4 August 2020 15: 21 New
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                Nikolay, hello! soldier
                Several heroes from your favorite TV series.
                Walter in the form of an Oberforer, which means a pre-war photo, then this rank was eliminated. I could not find a single photo in the brigadeführer uniform. It is not in black either.

                Heinrich, who was the Gestapo-Müller, in the uniform of a Gruppenführer, in black uniform did not find a single photo either.

                But at the end of the war, only our Stirlitz sported in a black uniform.
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 15: 26 New
                  +1
                  But at the end of the war, only our Stirlitz sported in a black uniform.

                  Not only. There are also other heroes of the series. laughing drinks
                  They say that the Schellenberg family really liked Tabakov who played him. I can't vouch for the truth, from the wiki: Relatives, in particular Schellenberg's beloved niece, after watching the film even sent a letter to Tabakov expressing the highest satisfaction from his work. They also used the Soviet film as a visual aid, so that the younger members of the family also remember and know their “genius” relative: “Thank you for being kind, like Uncle Walter, and for giving you the opportunity to look at him again!”. Actor and bard Yuri Vizbor, who played the role of Martin Bormann in the film, liked to tell the story of this letter at his creative evenings (audio recordings of the story have been preserved).
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 August 2020 15: 55 New
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                    Well, I'm not sure about the letter from the "niece", I suppose this is just another acting story. A couple of times I attended Visbor's "creative evenings" in KSPeshnie clubs and he never stuttered about it there, apparently everything depended on the amount taken by the collar. wink
                    As for Tabakov, with his puffy "woman's face", in the role of a refined Master of Arts and Bachelor of Laws, he somehow did not pull it at least outwardly. In my opinion, at least.
                    And about the film I remembered the anecdote of those times:

                    Phone call from Müller - Stirlitz:

                    - Buddy Stirlitz, how much will be twice or two?

                    Disturbing music and Kopelyan's voice-over:

                    "Stirlitz did not know how many would be twice or two, but he also did not know if Mueller knew about it ..."

                    In short, the whole plot of the film is in this phrase. laughing But, all the same, I watched with pleasure, a talented fairy tale. drinks
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 16: 00 New
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                      But, all the same, I watched with pleasure, a talented fairy tale.

                      The whole country ran to watch TV! good
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 4 August 2020 16: 10 New
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                        Don't misinform the public! The whole country ran to the TV to watch and listen to the programmatic speeches of the General Secretary of the CPSU, dear comrade Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev! They were afraid to miss the word! And at the same time on the phones there was a discussion of another brilliant pearl "beloved and only". laughing
                        I think that even today, such performances are not long left. bully
                      2. Astra wild
                        Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 34 New
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                        "It is not long before such performances" will not work: desire and reality do not always coincide. However, I will not argue: we will wait and see
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 4 August 2020 19: 37 New
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                        The fact of the matter is that the existing reality does not evoke any desires besides very unreal ones. Although ... who knows.
                        "If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans." smile
                      4. Astra wild
                        Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 59 New
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                        I agree with the latter.
                        These are the words of Grudinin. At least I heard them from him
              2. Phil77
                Phil77 4 August 2020 16: 50 New
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                Quote: Sea Cat
                "Stirlitz did not know how many would be twice or two, but he also did not know if Mueller knew about it ..."

                Yeah !!!!!
                * -And these fingers, Stirlitz, we found on the suitcase of a Russian * pianist *.
                -Gruppenfuehrer, I'm a Soviet intelligence officer.
                - Yes, even American! Why without gloves?!?! Do you want to infect us all ???? *
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 4 August 2020 16: 52 New
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                  * Stirlitz climbed onto the telegraph pole and, in order not to attract attention, opened the newspaper. * wink
                2. Phil77
                  Phil77 4 August 2020 16: 56 New
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                  * Stirlitz has been sending the same radiogram to the center for three months already:
                  2532 5632 5412 1893
                  1143 5437 9808 5421.
                  But in vain, none of these cards received a penny of salary. *
                3. Catfish
                  Catfish 4 August 2020 18: 18 New
                  +3
                  "Once, walking in the Teutoburg forest, Stirlitz came across a branch ... They spent the night." soldier
                4. Phil77
                  Phil77 4 August 2020 18: 23 New
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                  * At the bar, a man in an OZK suit was concentrating on stirring chemicals in a flask.
                  - * Newbie. * - thought Stirlitz.
                5. Phil77
                  Phil77 4 August 2020 18: 26 New
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                  Stirlitz walked past the cinema, but noticed a poster * Alien vs. Predator *.
                  - My God, how tired of these elections! - thought the scout.
                6. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 19: 01 New
                  +3
                  Once, walking in the Teutoburg forest

                  Once, walking through the Teutoburg forest, Publius Quintilius Varus lost the best legions of the emperor Augustus, and at the same time, his head. And Caesar then beat his head against the wall and muttered to himself: "Var ... Var! Give me back my legions!" wassat
                7. Catfish
                  Catfish 4 August 2020 20: 00 New
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                  Well ... "Someone loses, and someone finds." (from) smile
        2. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 17: 43 New
          +2
          - Yes, even American! Why without gloves?!?! Do you want to infect us all ???? *

          in the topic of infection. Vital ... wink
        3. Phil77
          Phil77 4 August 2020 17: 52 New
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          Oh, Nikolai! In Moscow again this masquerade of reindeer breeding has begun! And laughter, and sin! It can be seen about the dough sucks in the state, so at least they want to raise the budget on fines! am
        4. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 17: 54 New
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          Oh, Nikolai! In Moscow again this masquerade of reindeer breeding has begun! And laughter, and sin! It can be seen about the dough sucks in the state, so at least they want to raise the budget on fines!

          it's quiet here. Finally, the parks were opened. In stores, rarely where masks are required.
          We went to Pskov on weekends. The two best cafes (not networked) are closed, one more has turned into an ordinary shaver shop! And how they fed there ... recourse
        5. Phil77
          Phil77 4 August 2020 17: 57 New
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          Your happiness that you do not have this bardyur-mask shobla !!!!
          This shot does not evoke any feelings other than disgust and hatred!
        6. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 18: 19 New
          +2
          This frame

          each city has its own staff. You have yours. we have our own, and one Good Doctor in Siberia has his own. And censored words are not always enough ... drinks
        7. Phil77
          Phil77 4 August 2020 18: 29 New
          +2
          Nikolai, with all due respect, but .... He is absolutely not ours! That was Luzhkov, yes, ours! Therefore, he still looks like a win compared to this ....... He is not ours! He's them! From their co-op.
        8. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 18: 32 New
          +2
          From their co-op.

          - The government lives on another planet, dear! (film "Kin-Dza-Dza"). What a true phrase ... what
        9. Phil77
          Phil77 4 August 2020 19: 06 New
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          Quote: Pane Kohanku
          What a true phrase ...

          Alas, alas, for all of us! The film turned out to be prophetic!
        10. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 19: 07 New
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          Alas, alas, for all of us! The film turned out to be prophetic!

          and since we have neither yellow, nor, moreover, crimson pants, all that remains is to insert a bell in your nose! laughing
  6. Astra wild
    Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 35 New
    +2
    Sergei, I heard with the option: "yes at least Chinese."
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 44 New
    +2
    Konstantin, I heard about Tabakov's letter from Schellenberg's niece on TV (according to Tabakov himself), but it said that Tabakov was not outwardly similar, but with his intelligence. And these are different things.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 4 August 2020 20: 05 New
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      Is this Tabakov intelligent? Don't tell my slippers! Although, you can play anything you want, and then suddenly an afront like Ephraim.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 5 August 2020 18: 18 New
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      Efremov has been "leavening" for a long time, just look at his face: only a blind man will not see, and such chicks cannot be allowed to the car
    3. Catfish
      Catfish 5 August 2020 18: 48 New
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      And where is this u r about d?
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 August 2020 17: 04 New
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    The choice of the black color of the form was probably due to the fact that the film is black and white, not color.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 4 August 2020 18: 12 New
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      Rather, because the black "modestly elegant CC uniform" looks advantageous.
      1. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 4 August 2020 18: 29 New
        +2
        The film SHIELD AND SWORD is also black and white, but there in the 4th episode Weiss and Heinrich periodically wear SS uniforms in khaki.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 August 2020 18: 50 New
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          Quote: sibiryouk
          The film SHIELD AND SWORD is also black and white, but there in the 4th episode Weiss and Heinrich periodically wear SS uniforms in khaki.

          Well, for all the directors you can't guess why it is this way and not otherwise. Cinema, after all, is artistic, it does not pretend to be documentary.
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 4 August 2020 19: 09 New
          +1
          Yes, they dress on the "field", nevertheless closer to the realities.
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 4 August 2020 18: 49 New
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        Quote: Sea Cat
        Rather, because the black "modestly elegant CC uniform" looks advantageous.

        I don't think Lioznova thought so. Rather, it is the contrast - black and white.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 4 August 2020 19: 10 New
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          And what about "white"? Stirlitz is also in black uniform.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 August 2020 19: 14 New
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          Quote: Sea Cat
          And what about "white"? Stirlitz is also in black uniform.

          It's not about Stirlitz, but about the fact that Nazism is black. How old are you, I wonder?
        3. Catfish
          Catfish 4 August 2020 19: 25 New
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          Actually, Nazism was called the brown plague of the twentieth century, so your analogy is a little strained. Our diplomats, military sailors and marines also wore black uniforms, how would you like to perceive, also by analogy?
          And age does not really matter if the client was late for the distribution of brains in due time. Surely now there are enough young people with a natural mind and at the same time quite educated and well-read.
          Why the question, do you want to bite? Well, not the first time.
        4. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 August 2020 20: 09 New
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          Quote: Sea Cat
          Actually, Nazism was called the brown plague of the twentieth century, so your analogy is a little strained. Our diplomats, military sailors and marines also wore black uniforms, how would you like to perceive, also by analogy?
          And age does not really matter if the client was late for the distribution of brains in due time. Surely now there are enough young people with a natural mind and at the same time quite educated and well-read.
          Why the question, do you want to bite? Well, not the first time.

          No, I'm not a bite lover. As one Master said: the best fight is the one that didn't take place. drinks But you primitively transfer the artistic meaning to reality, this usually happens with people with insufficient life experience, which is much broader than professional. As it was written in my profile, I am not sober here; if you want to discuss it soberly, you are welcome - in the morning. But by morning, I hope you will be enlightened laughing drinks
        5. Catfish
          Catfish 4 August 2020 20: 31 New
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          But by morning, I hope you will be enlightened

          Well, about enlightenment - it's more for you to yourself. wink drinks
          By the way, I did not talk about the "artistic sense" of this film, nor, God forbid, about the realities. Only about the entourage.
          As for "I beg you - in the morning", that's how it will turn out: insomnia, sometimes I sit up to the first roosters, sometimes not. We'll see how it goes. request
          PS You are a happy person, because of antibiotics, I can't drink a damn thing, and sometimes oh, how I want ... drinks
        6. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 August 2020 20: 54 New
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          Quote: Sea Cat
          But by morning, I hope you will be enlightened

          Well, about enlightenment - it's more for you to yourself. wink drinks
          By the way, I did not talk about the "artistic sense" of this film, nor, God forbid, about the realities. Only about the entourage.
          As for "I beg you - in the morning", that's how it will turn out: insomnia, sometimes I sit up to the first roosters, sometimes not. We'll see how it goes. request
          PS You are a happy person, because of antibiotics, I can't drink a damn thing, and sometimes oh, how I want ... drinks

          So, damn it, in the details of the entourage lies a fair part of the artistic meaning! And Lioznova did it superbly. The black-lacquered fascists cannot do anything with a simple Soviet intelligence officer, who, in their opinion, did not grow out of bast shoes. Anyway, this is how I see it. And you get well, then we'll have a glass together! laughing
        7. Catfish
          Catfish 4 August 2020 21: 05 New
          +1
          Thank you for the wish, a glass - we are always happy. smile drinks
          Only I think that by the time of the film, the Nazis had already forgotten to think about "bast shoes", retrained them by that time.
        8. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 11: 13 New
          +1
          Thank you for the wish, a glass - we are always happy.

          Uncle Kostya, you really decide whether you can or not, but how "not adhered" drinks The Finns have a wonderful expression:

          Here, and remake it like "to relax culturally on the pond in sheets with beautiful villagers, without planning to go anywhere on an ATV " good drinks
        9. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 12: 55 New
          +2
          I will finish drinking a course of antibiotics and drink my pension. You will deal with the villagers yourself when you arrive, and I am faithful to my wife. laughing drinks
        10. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 13: 14 New
          +2
          You will deal with the villagers yourself when you arrive, and I am faithful to my wife.

          Uncle Kostya, you are convincingly convincing me to sin! wink drinks it will come to the point that we will begin to read Lev Gumilyov aloud! laughing
        11. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 13: 47 New
          +1
          They, rural young ladies, do not care about Gumilyov, they need a tough man, and what would he do less, and do more, and Gumilev to you and my Masher will read according to your mood. smile
          And on the pond sometimes it is very interesting. fellow
        12. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 13: 52 New
          +2
          And on the pond sometimes it is very interesting.

          ah, mister captain, this is my favorite color ... favorite size ... winked villagers .... (and licked his lips like the Emperor Bokassa on "sugar pork") wink
          Gumilev and completely to the light

          that is, lasciviously humming Severyanin to them is useless? what
        13. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 14: 06 New
          +1
          "Eh, a troika with a whistle, a binge with the captain ..." (c) laughing

          True, if they ate my rank in the cavalry, then I would rather be a sergeant-major. soldier
        14. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 14: 07 New
          +2
          True, if they ate my rank in the cavalry, then I would rather be a sergeant-major.

          in spirit - a captain, no less! drinks
        15. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 14: 10 New
          +1
          Then that's the only way! fellow
        16. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 14: 45 New
          +1
          Then that's the only way!

          in response to requests for "captain" the cover of the book surfaced. wassat Apparently, about the "hitman" is now very fashionable. negative In the background is an English Lanchester armored car. Twenty of these machines, and used ones, were purchased by Russia in 1915.
        17. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 15: 01 New
          +1
          The gefreitor treats the filter marshal somehow disrespectfully. He, by chance, did not grab Hindenburg here?

          Chess with all the Entente, opposite Nikolai Nikolaevich. drinks
        18. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 15: 12 New
          +2
          He, by chance, did not grab Hindenburg here?

          God knows. Hindenburg wore a mustache differently.

          Chess with all the Entente, opposite Nikolai Nikolaevich.

          uh huh. They profited from the war, friends-relatives, and then the country ... with millions of victims ... negative
        19. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 15: 32 New
          +1
          They have profiled the revolution, they are morons! If it weren't for her, then there were no problems with the Dyrdanels, and with many others. But ... if only, if only ... request
        20. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 15: 35 New
          +2
          If it weren't for her, then there were no problems with the Dyrdanels, and with many others. But ... if only, if only ...

          that's why there is a genre - how would it happen if ... But I'm not very interested in it, Uncle Kostya! There were no nobles in my family ... wink
        21. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 15: 42 New
          +1
          The nobles have nothing to do with it, it is a shame for the State.
          And the genre "if" I am also not very good, if only in unscientific fiction. hi
        22. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 16: 05 New
          +2
          The nobles have nothing to do with it, it is a shame for the State.

          if this power did not have big and unresolved problems, it would not have collapsed ... what Sorry for people, Uncle Kostya! This is who you feel sorry for .... and the time of troubles is always the same - mass terror from all sides, bestial cruelty, and it ends with the arrival of a strong dictator.
        23. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 16: 50 New
          +2
          People are also different, others and in the cradle would not hurt to strangle.

          Well, and some more for the company. wink
        24. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 16: 52 New
          +2
          People are also different, others and in the cradle would not hurt to strangle.

          well, so if you know in advance who will grow up ... and this is impossible. Yes, and in the cradles only Nazis and press, and other moral scum.
          Do you remember how in the movie Come and See? the hero didn't shoot children's portrait of hitler ...
        25. Catfish
          Catfish 5 August 2020 17: 03 New
          +2
          Of course I remember that the film made a huge impression, although I had read Ales Adamovich's "The Punishers" before. I read that Kravchenko had a nervous breakdown after filming, how could he not be with the boy after this.
        26. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 17: 07 New
          +2
          I read that Kravchenko had a nervous breakdown after filming, how could he not be with the boy after this.

          yeah, for sure ... In the film, for the invaders "half of the work" our "well-wishers" do ... But it was, probably ... There are many traitors who put their hand, I think.
        27. Phil77
          Phil77 5 August 2020 17: 13 New
          +2
          Do you know, gentlemen, that during the filming of this film a psychologist was supposed to work with Alexey? But ... Kravchenko was absolutely not subject to hypnosis!
          This is where the breakdown is, a very scary film.
        28. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 17: 17 New
          +2
          This is where the breakdown is, a very scary film.

          it is scary for an adult to watch. For the invaders and those who joined them, it was a routine exercise.
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 5 August 2020 17: 22 New
        +1
        Honor A. Adamovich "The Punishers", he is also the scriptwriter of this film.
      4. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 17: 41 New
        +2
        Honor A. Adamovich "The Punishers", he is also the scriptwriter of this film.

        On weekends, we went to Pskov, and there, on the border of the Leningrad and Pskov regions, there is the village of Andromer. And I remember that the Germans carried out a massacre there, and someone else published an article about this on VO at the time. I also remember that eight scoundrels in the uniform of the color "fieldgrau" were then hanged in Leningrad in 1946.
        Here, from the court, about the last of them:
        Ore-freighter Skotki Erwin - participated in the execution of 150 people in Luga, burned 50 houses there. He participated in the burning of the villages of Bukino, Borki, Troshkino, Novoselye, Podborovye, Milyutino. He personally burned 200 houses. He took part in the liquidation of the villages of Rostkovo, Moromerka, and the Andromer state farm.
        What a talking surname - "cattle". Eight German reptiles were convicted and hanged for these crimes.
        and here is the interrogation of the animal in court:
        http://www1.lib.ru/PROZA/LOUKNITSKIY_P/leningrad3.txt_Piece100.14
        Scottish smiles. Noise in the hall.
        .......
        Cattle remembers the names. The accuser wipes his forehead with a handkerchief. Cattle
        pronounces:
        "Housewarming. Pokino. Andromer"

        here is the full version:
        https://litresp.ru/chitat/ru/%D0%9B/luknickij-pavel-nikolaevich/leningrad-dejstvuet-kniga-3/27
        here is Izvestia:
        https://histrf.ru/uploads/media/default/0001/24/0b446a18939a0fa044289a19d50778e5c698fc4c.pdf
        here's the process:
        https://sdamzavas.net/4-28122.html
        here with a photo:
        http://artyushenkooleg.ru/wp-oleg/archives/2450

        Simply - ordinary Nazism ...
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 5 August 2020 18: 42 New
    +2
    Konstantin, I don’t know (I wasn’t interested, but it seems that the old-fashioned analogue will be for you: an adjutant general or an infantry general?
  • Catfish
    Catfish 5 August 2020 18: 57 New
    +1
    Mercy for Compliman, Vera love , but we are modest people and only in the rank of senior sergeant, or non-commissioned officer of the tsarist army and navy and, at most, sergeant-major of the cavalry. It was Nikolai, out of the kindness of his soul, that he promoted me to the rank of captain, to the major in the present way. What kind of generals are there ...
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 5 August 2020 19: 08 New
    +2
    And I tried to translate your "paper" shoulder straps in that way
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 19: 10 New
    +2
    It was Nikolai, out of the kindness of his soul, that he promoted me to the rank of captain, to the major in the present way.

    Uncle Kostya, whoever I "made" you into ... you will always remain a wonderful person and a real Sea Cat.good drinks with all due!
  • Catfish
    Catfish 5 August 2020 19: 22 New
    +1
    Thank you, Kolya, I'm already sitting and purring. smile
  • Catfish
    Catfish 5 August 2020 19: 05 New
    +1
    Yes, you can sing anything you want, but I can't guarantee the result. drinks And life is beautiful!
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 19: 12 New
    +2
    And life is beautiful!

    .... said the Sea Cat, photographing the laughing odalisques in his own pond, and posting on the VO ... wink Uncle Kostya - I envy good white envy! good guys, thank you all for today. Good, good, sincerely chatted. Have a nice evening everyone! drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 5 August 2020 19: 17 New
    +1
    And you are happy, good friend! smile drinks
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 6 August 2020 14: 15 New
    +2
    Nikolay, you were + wittily told. It turns out that Constantine has a pond and odalisques. cool
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 14: 27 New
    +2
    Nikolay, you were + wittily told. It turns out that Constantine has a pond and odalisques. cool

    Vera, did you not know? In the 18th century, a chic Turkish Pasha with its own harem and palace would emerge from Constantine. good
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 14: 37 New
    +2
    laughing Hello Nikolai! Ha! And again, Ha! A bad landowner who did not have his own * harem * of local beauties. The owner of the land here! And I think I didn’t have to force anyone, everything was voluntary. bully
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 14: 42 New
    +2
    A bad landowner who did not have his own * harem * of local beauties. The owner of the land here! And I think I didn't have to force anyone, everything was by voluntary consent.

    yes, you will look at you and Uncle Kostya, and you imagine both in a landowner's image with a pipe and cheerful villagers! good drinks let's go to discuss the pedigree of today's Valery (with the Cossacks)! drinks
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 14: 44 New
    +2
    Why discuss it? Let the Cossacks discuss it, but I have never been a Cossack, and there were none in my family. yes
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 14: 53 New
    +2
    Why discuss it? Let the Cossacks discuss it, but I have never been a Cossack, and there were none in my family.

    I am not a Cossack either, but Albert turned out to be a quarter Cossack. You don't have to be a Cossack to discuss anything in good company. drinks
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 14: 57 New
    +2
    Come on, these Cossacks! They are all chubate. They have lamps, checkers, orders full of chest and below the navel. And the whip is also an argument! No, I won't go! angry
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 14: 52 New
    +2
    If only about pirates! Filibusters! Corsairs! About white-white sand, about palm trees, about rum! About a tank from around the corner !!!!! laughing good laughing
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 14: 54 New
    +2
    If only about pirates! Filibusters! Corsairs! About white-white sand, about palm trees, about rum! About a tank from around the corner !!!!!

    "Tank" said he would look in the evening. A lot of work. soldier
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 14: 59 New
    +2
    Look, maybe Astra-Vera will go? tongue laughing
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 15: 13 New
    +2
    Look, maybe Astra-Vera will go?

    You can view. Valery himself actively participates in the discussion there. drinks
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 15: 16 New
    +2
    I was, I saw, I checked in. bully
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 15: 17 New
    +2
    I was, I saw, I checked in.

    ... I realized that our cheerful company should already pay me extra ... wink
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 15: 19 New
    +2
    And if we add chronology, eh? good
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 15: 43 New
    +2
    And if we add chronology, eh?

    Chronology of which of you owes what and when? what Then you will have to hire Albert as an accountant - he is better at counting! drinks
  • Phil77
    Phil77 6 August 2020 15: 03 New
    +2
    Nikolay! But the question is in essence! How can I download illustrations to a comment from my phone? I can't do a damn thing! fool
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 15: 15 New
    +2
    How can I download illustrations to a comment from my phone?

    Sergei! I have a push-button phone 2014! laughing so I'm on VO with a computer at work, basically. Yesterday a picture was sent to my phone, so I had to delete half of the memory. fellow
  • Catfish
    Catfish 6 August 2020 16: 04 New
    +2
    You will laugh, but if you believe the tales of my late daddy, then another Turk has entered our Ukrainian relatives, they say, some great-grandmother sinned with him. laughing
    So a harem is probably hereditary. request
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 6 August 2020 16: 20 New
    +1
    So a harem is probably hereditary.

    Uncle Kostya, for some reason I never doubted it ... wink good
  • Catfish
    Catfish 6 August 2020 16: 38 New
    +2
    "But we have a different law, we don't have polygamy,
    And I live with my wife alone, as Mohammed ordered ... "(c) smile
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 6 August 2020 14: 11 New
    +2
    Konstantin, thanks for your illustration. You are not alien to the beautiful
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 5 August 2020 18: 36 New
    +2
    Konstantin, in general, the villagers did not really like to publicly demonstrate their charms (as a child, I visited the village). As I do not know now, I live in a new neighborhood
    R.
    S
    This is not Kustodiev, but who is the author?
  • Catfish
    Catfish 5 August 2020 18: 58 New
    +1
    Times are different now, and the villagers ... they are very different. smile
    And the work is not Kustodiev, someone from modern, I do not remember the name, but still a good painting.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 5 August 2020 18: 24 New
    +2
    Konstantin "cat", for "faithful to his wife" to you +. Women appreciate it.
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 4 August 2020 14: 27 New
    +2
    Nikolay, do you think women are naive hens?

    no, I think you can't live without them, no. wink And further in the text.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 4 August 2020 17: 00 New
      +2
      * Husband and wife argue for a long time. Finally, the husband says:
      -Okay! Be yours.
      -Late. I've already changed my mind. * bully
  • Phil77
    Phil77 4 August 2020 13: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: Astra wild
    Stalin introduced the form to almost everyone

    The uniform was introduced long before Comrade Stalin. The department of foreign affairs began to wear it somewhere from the end of the 18th century. The SS uniform? Well, a bit like of course ...
  • Catfish
    Catfish 4 August 2020 14: 24 New
    +2
    Stalin introduced the form to almost everyone

    That's right, they introduced a uniform to railroad workers and even tram drivers and conductors. with cardboard epaulets, it looked pretty shabby.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 4 August 2020 15: 55 New
      +2
      Konstantin "Cat," I didn't know that. In x / f about that period, I don’t remember that
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 4 August 2020 15: 59 New
        +3
        Apparently they did not pay attention, but in general, for the most part, looking for something realistic in various film-making is a thankless task. Otherwise, you can decide that the Germans in that war were armed with Kalashnikovs and T-55 tanks. love
        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 03 New
          0
          I don’t know I didn’t see T-55 tanks and I don’t care.
          According to the films, the Wehrmacht is completely PP Schmeisser, and Zhuk writes that rifles predominated among them
          1. sibiryouk
            sibiryouk 4 August 2020 19: 13 New
            0
            Not only Zhuk, simple statistics of the industrial production of the Reich - the production of small arms, PP-only 1 with a trifle of a million pieces, I don't remember exactly about 12 million rifles. pieces
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 August 2020 20: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Astra wild
    resembles SS

    Do not invent.
    The SS has a single-breasted jacket with wide short lapels and trousers like a golife.
    Svyatogorov in the photo in a double-breasted jacket with narrower and longer lapels, in wide trousers (almost flared). It looks more like the uniform of our sailors.
  • Serg koma
    Serg koma 4 August 2020 15: 35 New
    +3
    Quote: Astra wild
    but the Soviet diplomats had no uniform

    By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR from 28 May 1943 city for diplomatic workers of the People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs personal diplomatic ranks were established: Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, Ambassadors Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of 1 and 2 classes, advisers of 1 and 2 classes, first secretaries of 1 and 2 classes, second secretaries of 1 and 2 classes, third secretaries and attachés ... IN On the same day, by the Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, ceremonial and everyday uniforms were introduced for diplomatic employees of the People's Commissariat, as well as for diplomatic employees of embassies and missions abroad.

    Black dress and gray casual uniforms included a coat, uniform or jacket, trousers, shirt, tie, vest, boots, gloves, and a cap. The dress uniform, which was made of more expensive materials with gold embroidery, was accompanied by a dagger “in a black leather sheath with gilded metal trim”. On the front side of the scabbard of the diplomatic dagger, the image of the Coat of Arms of the USSR was given, and on the back side there was an emblem, a traditional symbol of peaceful intentions: two palm branches of gilded metal crossed and tied with a ribbon.
    [img]hhttp://www.sammler.ru/uploads/monthly_12_2018/post-11600-0-57623700-1545656478.jpgttp://[/img]
  • Captain45
    Captain45 4 August 2020 12: 46 New
    +4
    They summoned Svyatogorov to the NKVD and asked him to testify against a worker from Zaporizhstal by the last name Melnichuk, who, under torture, confessed to being a Japanese spy. In turn, Alexander Svyatogorov knew him exclusively as a decent and honest person, an ordinary hard worker from the countryside. Under interrogation as a witness Svyatogorov refused to slander an innocent person and recognize him as an enemy of the people. As a result, Melnichuk was still released, and Svyatogorov, most likely, was remembered as a person who did not shy away and did not begin to testify against an innocent person.(C)
    Question: why did they not beat Svyatogorov on the kidneys and knock out testimony, which prevented the "bloody NKVDeshniks" from treating Svyatogorov as with Melnichuk? After all, two exposed enemies are more than one! the author does not grow together in the issue of repression.
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 4 August 2020 15: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Captain45
      Something about the author does not grow together in the issue of repression.

      It happened in the late 1930s.

      On November 25, 1938, Beria was appointed People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR.
      Different methods, different goals ...
      As a version: Melnichuk was arrested under Yezhov, the case was continued (with the involvement of the witness Svyatogorov) under Beria. Next is Svyatogorov
      . dealt with cases of previously arrested people, prepared his opinions on various cases. Thanks to this, some of the arrested were released.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 4 August 2020 13: 05 New
    +3
    "Admiral Canaris' personal representative" I may be wrong, but Wilhelm Canaris was retired from February 1944, and in the spring of 1945 he was hanged. So in the spring-summer of 1944 Feilengauer could not have been a representative of Canaris?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 4 August 2020 19: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Astra wild
      So in the spring-summer of 1944 Feilengauer could not have been Canaris' representative?

      So he was a representative of the General Directorate of Imperial Security. By the specified time.
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 4 August 2020 19: 51 New
        0
        That is, a representative of Kaltenbrunner?
  • Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 4 August 2020 13: 31 New
    +4
    The famous Soviet intelligence officer died on June 22, 2008, six months before his 95th birthday. He was buried in Kiev at the memorial Baikovo cemetery.

    God saved us to live until 2014. For such a person to live in the country of victorious Nazism and see with his own eyes all this nightmare, against which he fought, not sparing himself ... It would be scary.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 4 August 2020 13: 44 New
      +1
      Oh! Well, he still caught some moments, for the heroization of * heroes * began long before 2008.
  • sibiryouk
    sibiryouk 4 August 2020 14: 29 New
    +3
    But what is the connection with the hero of the movie Shield and Sword? The film has a completely different plot, and the fate of the hero was different.
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 4 August 2020 18: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: sibiryouk
      But what is the connection with the hero of the movie Shield and Sword?

      I join the question., Hope that the author will shed light on this.
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 4 August 2020 18: 10 New
      +2
      But what is the connection with the hero of the movie Shield and Sword?

      No connection. Towards the end of the series, Weiss-Lyubshin, in his free time from working for the Wehrmacht, attacks a German concentration camp (on the territory of Germany!) And frees the actress V. Titova. Stirlitz saved his radio operator more plausibly, but also in a fabulous way.
      1. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 4 August 2020 18: 21 New
        +2
        Valentina Titova - played another heroine, in the Abwehr school she was according to legend - the daughter of a repressed general, and Weiss allegedly recruited her by order of his superiors, then she helped him in intelligence. He freed another heroine from the camp, a gymnast who worked with Zubov and who came to him to contact the Center, I do not remember the artist's surname.
        1. VIP
          VIP 4 August 2020 18: 47 New
          +1
          I also remember the episode, but I don’t remember the artists, except for Lyubshin. It will be necessary to revise, as well as the film “The Way to Saturn” and the sequel, when it ended up in the “department of Gehlen,” remember? In my opinion, he is more suited to Svyatogorov. Perhaps the author confused the firms?
          1. sibiryouk
            sibiryouk 4 August 2020 18: 54 New
            0
            In the beginning, the WAY TO SATURN, some real story of Soviet intelligence and the hero Krylov has a real prototype, but I just don't know what happened to him after the war.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 4 August 2020 19: 50 New
              +1
              hero - Krylov has a real prototype

              I agree with this, in general the films about "Saturn" are much more realistic than "Shield and Sword".
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 4 August 2020 19: 54 New
              +1
              In the beginning - "Saturn is almost invisible", then "the way to Saturn", then "The End of Saturn"
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 4 August 2020 18: 51 New
          +1
          Anyway, let him save the one whom the scriptwriter ordered. I mean, at the beginning the film is quite real, but then, towards the end, fantasy begins. Only the beginning of the film approaches our real illegal. Moreover, before the film, Rudolph Abel (William Fischer) speaks for a couple of minutes.
  • VIP
    VIP 4 August 2020 14: 53 New
    +3
    "Svyatogorov, most likely, he remembered as a person who did not shy away and did not begin to testify against the innocent" author, here it is completely different: "methods of physical pressure" were used against Melnichuk, but simply bludgeoned, Svyatogorov was not touched and then released Most likely Yezhov was dismissed, and the regional leadership did not "drive the horses" fig knows him suddenly LP Beria does not need a plan for executions?
    "the organs themselves were purged" that is, which "remembered" themselves turned out to be "enemies of the people." Svyatogorov ended up in the NKVD through a "partner recruitment". Then the NKVD recruited people with a "good profile" and at least a little cultured. They realized that "class flair" will not replace education. And Svyatogorov graduated from high school and technical school for the 30s, but very well.
    You need to know your history better
  • VIP
    VIP 4 August 2020 15: 47 New
    +1
    If not mistaken, then "Svyatogorov in the first years of service" senior sergeant of state security is an analogue of senior lieutenant.
    Recently I watched the film "Green Chains" where the major of state security has insignia that do not correspond to his rank. 2 "sleepers" - senior lieutenant or rather captain
    1. sibiryouk
      sibiryouk 4 August 2020 18: 13 New
      +1
      2 sleepers - senior lieutenant of GB corresponds to arm. major, the captain of the GB corresponds to the arm. lieutenant colonel-3 sleepers, this is until 1943.
      1. VIP
        VIP 4 August 2020 18: 39 New
        +1
        So I remember correctly
      2. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 11: 36 New
        +1
        2 sleepers - senior lieutenant of GB corresponds to arm. major, the captain of the GB corresponds to the arm. lieutenant colonel-3 sleepers, this is until 1943.

        colleagues, enlighten me on "cubes"! drinks
        If you remember the series "The Master and Margarita", a representative of the NKVD has four cubes in his buttonholes. At first I thought it was a mistake of filmmakers, but there is information that such a form really was. hi
        A series of orders of the GPU-OGPU of the period 1924-1934. The categories of positions for state security officers were introduced: in the twenties there were 17, in the early thirties - 13. In fact, it was a hidden transition to personal special ranks.
        VI Assistant to the commandant on duty of the OGPU - 4 cubes

        http://www.fssb.su/history-state-security/2104-forma-i-znaki-razlichiya-v-organah-gosbezopasnosti-1922-1945-gg.html
        Interestingly, the military also had four cubes until 1935.
        4 squares - Commander of a separate company, commander of a training company, commander of a tank company, assistant commander of a battalion and their peers.

        http://saper.isnet.ru/uniform/rkka-24-35-a.html
        That is, it was? But before 1935, right? drinks
        1. VIP
          VIP 5 August 2020 11: 53 New
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          And hell knows. How was it before 1935? I used to understand from 1935 to 1943, maybe someone knows more? I noticed that the "twelfth" knows a lot, perhaps, and here he is in the know?
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 12: 11 New
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            And hell knows. How was it before 1935?

            everything was also interesting there, as far as I understand. Given the fact that there were no titles, but, in fact. there were posts.
            I noticed that the "twelfth" knows a lot

            His name is Viktor Nikolaevich, and he will find what he does not know. wink Please love and respect! drinks With respect, Nicholai
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              VIP 5 August 2020 14: 35 New
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              Vladimir. thank
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 14: 38 New
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                Vladimir. thank

                Pleased to meet you! yes
                1. VIP
                  VIP 5 August 2020 15: 24 New
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                  I think we hit it off
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 15: 35 New
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                    I think we hit it off

                    I'm sure that two people will always get along, if you do not quarrel over trifles! drinks
                    1. VIP
                      VIP 5 August 2020 16: 01 New
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                      And if you don't swear, it's boring.
                      I laugh
                      1. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 5 August 2020 16: 07 New
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                        And if you don't swear, it's boring.

                        nope, in fig. laughing I already swore mine. Now I chat quietly about everything, including the abstract and humorous.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 4 August 2020 20: 34 New
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    Perhaps this is my perception, but the film "Shield and Sword" is inferior in all respects: "Seventeen Moments of Spring".
    I heard the song ahead: "Where does the Motherland begin" (they taught at school) I saw the poster and really wanted to see it (then YouTube was not there), when I saw it I was disappointed: a good movie, but ... I expected more.
    Around that period, I watched: "Calling fire on ourselves", then I specifically looked to read about Anya Morozova, "Five from the sky" and he somehow got lost among them.
    I adore Lioznova's series and watch it in black and white, and my son loved the color version. And my "baby" loves more: "Adjutant of His Excellency" and "Sacred Relic" (often revises on YouTube)