Experts questioned the high export potential of the Ukrainian system of protection of armored vehicles "Acoustic"

The Ukrainian authorities say that one of the areas where sustainable economic growth could be achieved is related to the export of "modern Ukrainian products." In particular, questions are being raised about the need to expand sales markets for Ukrainian arms and military equipment. The possible expansion of cooperation on complexes for the protection of armored vehicles is indicated as specific examples. We are talking about the "Acoustic" protection complex.

Consider why Ukraine proposes to expand the export part of the military-industrial complex.

In fact, we are talking about an additional booking complex.

This complex allows you to increase the level of protection of lightly armored vehicles from armor-piercing ammunition and fragments of relatively low kinetic energy. An important component, which the Ukrainian manufacturer declares, trying to attract the attention of potential foreign buyers, is associated with a decrease in the negative effect of a sound (acoustic) wave, which occurs, for example, during an explosion. Such a wave can shock the crew members of an armored vehicle or airborne soldiers that it is transporting.

The multi-layer "Acoustics" provides this kind of protection. According to data from open sources, the complex of acoustic ballistic protection (KABZ) is capable of withstanding armor-piercing bullets with a shell of steel or similor (brass in a combination of copper from 88 to 97 percent and zinc to 10 percent). Usually we are talking about maximum protection against bullets of the B-32 type - a caliber of 12,7x108 mm and an initial speed of about 840 m / s at a distance of 300-350 m. Closer - the protection in question no longer helps.

The composition of the "Acoustic" protection system: screen, air gap, main body armor, Kevlar plate, aluminum inserts, foam insert.

Several shots with the results of the Acoustics tests (shooting from a distance of 150 m with a 7,62 mm caliber):

When a bullet (fragment) passes through the main screen, the initial destruction of the striking element begins. In this case, the acoustic wave begins to be absorbed with the further movement of the bullet (fragment), then the main armor plate finally delays the striking element, and the acoustic effect from its impact on the body of the armored vehicle is minimized by the above-mentioned additional layers.

Installed on BTR-3E, BTR-70 and BTR-80 APU. Earlier it was reported about plans to equip Polish armored personnel carriers Rosomak with "Acoustic".

According to experts, the Ukrainian "Acoustics" has no high chances for wide export, as its characteristics are very modest. If the armored complex is not able to effectively protect against the same DShK from a distance of less than 300 m, then it is really very arrogant to rely on such protection, especially with an eye to international markets.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

To begin with, thanks to the authors, I have never heard of this system before.
Secondly ... I agree - the sound effect is not the most important at the moment of defeat.

[Avior]

This system of the early 2000s to strengthen armored vehicles used in police operations, therefore, has specific characteristics.
Protection of the crew from shell shock during close detonations of various semi-improvised explosive devices in such operations is just relevant, and the attacker is not expected to have heavy weapons.
Niche product for specific purposes, and little-known, moreover.

[newcomer]

Speaking of police operations. In Kiev, another territorial act. By the way, the terrorist has just been neutralized.

[Avior]

I read that this is a citizen of Uzbekistan with mental problems

[newcomer]

Yes, sort of. But they are all crazy. They do not want to admit that they have a mess with government agencies.

[Avior]

He seized the bank and demanded one and a half thousand dollars.
The Uzbeks have their own view of the value of money :) ...

[newcomer]

Maybe ... But people who see the whole inside out of the hopelessness of the state bodies of Ukrlenda say that this is a staging of the security forces themselves.

[Avior]

Past in Poltava was shot
Nothing so dramatization.

[newcomer]

This is a single case from a whole series. The poor sniper has an internal investigation now.

[Avior]

Everything has already ended, as I understand it.
Four police officers were awarded.

[newcomer]

Then you can rejoice for them, although, literally today, closer to lunchtime, Ukrkanal broadcast in support of the sniper under investigation.

[Avior]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/interfax.com.ua/news/general/678633-amp.html
Awarded just today, it turns out

[newcomer]

Well, that's what they decided.

[cat Rusich]

Sergey, there were only hryvnias in the bank, I had to seize the bank and demand $

[Avior]

This I translated into dollars for clarity, he demanded 40 thousand hryvnia. Then would the exchanger go to grab it for exchange for dollars? :)

[Prisoner]

It is strange that he is not a Russian with an ID card of a GRU employee. Maybe the neighbors are slowly "letting go"?

[orionvitt]

Quote: Avior

this is a citizen of Uzbekistan with mental problems

What's the difference. The question is that in Ukraine it is part of the routine. Everything goes to the fact that soon there will be not a day without a terrorist attack, or a high-profile crime. As they say, what they fought for, they ran into it. On Ukrainian channels, a live broadcast "from the scene" was conducted for three hours, so they did not even evacuate nearby establishments (in the same building). People are sitting in a cafe across the street, watching this mess live, cunning journalists interview them, everything is fine. Just think, another terrorist, whom you will surprise with this now in Ukraine.

[Avior]

Unfortunately, terrorists have become not a gimmick not only in Ukraine :(
Messages almost every day - they were detained there, killed there during the arrest, blown up there or something like that ...

[Cristall]

Quote: orionvitt

The question is that in Ukraine it is part of the routine. Everything goes to the fact that soon there will be not a day without a terrorist attack, or a high-profile crime.

the country is small, there are few people - these are events against the background of the crisis of 2020, of course, in full view.
Of course, if this attracts attention, it seems that the situation is getting out of control.
Although, according to statistics, this is more common in our eastern neighbors. But in Ukraine it is louder because there is more attention.
A mess in the living because there is no habit of running and hiding. After all, there were no loud explosions or suicide bombers.
On the contrary, it is not a symbol of lack of surprise. And the fact that there were no terrible terrorist attacks.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Cristall

small country, few people

Is Ukraine not a big country? Compared to Russia, the United States, or Canada, yes. And by European standards, one of the largest. And the population is still quite large. And if in a country like Ukraine, and even close to Russia, there is such a glove box, this is far from good. The problem of Ukraine is the disease of society, which is called "Svidomo Ukrainianship."

[Insurgent]

Quote: newbie

In Kiev, another territorial act. By the way, the terrorist has just been neutralized.

Aha ...
And they also wanted to label us terrorists, and they themselves, besides being a global terrorist state, also bred the same "small fry" ...

[newcomer]

This is how their "experts" with a Nazi flavor usually say: "These are the machinations of Moscow." After all, this episode is the next, in a series of recent events in Ukrland.

[Insurgent]

Quote: newbie

This is how their "experts" with a Nazi flavor usually say: "These are the machinations of Moscow."

I wrote not about the Russian Federation, but the DPR and LPR, it was us, back in 2014, the ex-Ukraine wanted to appoint as terrorist organizations ...

[newcomer]

I understand you perfectly, I'm talking about the current moment, when for 7/8 days there is a whole series of terrorist attacks, the authorities have nothing to say, the authorities are hiding behind the backs of talking heads.

[Insurgent]

Quote: newbie

I'm talking about the current moment, when for 7/8 days a whole series of terrorist attacks, the authorities have nothing to say, the authorities are hiding behind the backs of talking heads.

Well, the staged story with the "Lutsk terrorist attack" made a lot of noise, even scared some (photo):

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Insurgent

it was us, back in 2014, the ex-Ukraine wanted to appoint as terrorist organizations ...

When I asked to name at least one terrorist attack committed by the militia on the territory of Ukraine, the dialogue immediately stopped

[Boris Chernikov]

Well, as practice has shown, kevlar packages on the BTR-82A work .. it makes sense to make inserts in add. no booking, but we need space, we are waiting for the promised kits for btr-82 and bmp-3/2

[vVvAD]

In fact, a pure screwdriver assembly - no developments in materials science, ballistics, etc. They just bought ready-made materials, combined them, tested them, were satisfied with the result, and shouted about a breakthrough.

[Mouse]

According to experts, the Ukrainian "Acoustics" has no high chances for wide export, as its characteristics are very modest.

experts, they are, of course, such experts ... but in this matter, I agree ... then I am also an expert !!!

[Lipchanin]

... If the armored complex is not able to effectively protect against the same DShK from a distance of less than 300 m, then it is really very arrogant to rely on such protection, especially with an eye to international markets.

And they already have such a trick. At the beginning they bake loudly, and then quietly crawl away into the bushes

[KVU-NSVD]

When someone sniffs at you from the DShK, then you think about the effects of sound waves at the very last moment ... if the doji comes to this last line ...

[credo]

"... The Ukrainian authorities say that one of the areas where sustainable economic growth could be achieved is related to the export of 'modern Ukrainian products' ..."

He died so died and there is nothing to talk about.
I am not even talking here about the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, which in fact can no longer produce good ships, planes, missiles, tanks and other products, since even the repair of such products is ordered in third countries.
Already the usual (civil) industry of Ukraine in the corral and clearance is not yet expected, but here we are talking about developments that are possible with decent funding from research institutes and laboratories.
All these loud statements in Ukraine about modern and super-cool military products are designed only to maintain the confidence in the local population that the military-industrial complex is working day and night on new products, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces will soon become the most invincible army in the world.
Meanwhile, politicians and "businessmen" of the local spill are slowly sawing the budget and foaming at the mouth, agitating ordinary people to defend themselves against the aggressor, utilizing in such a not cunning way the surplus of crazy Nazis and pan-headed simpletons.

[Russ]

I generally doubt that such a country as a land exists, so the gasket between Russia and the states ...

[Dmitry Makarov]

Ukrainian military-industrial complex products?
Yes bullshit that's all. Remember at least the vaunted Oplot tank, which has been advertised for 10 years, they say, a super-duper aerobatics of tank building.
It turned out that these "Oplots" were made of old used T-80 hulls, guns for them were generally produced at the sewer pipes and fittings plant, devices for aiming roofing felts from Chinese video peepholes for an intercom, or something like that.

[prior]

If a lightly armored vehicle is surrounded by pieces of bacon, the effect of such acoustic protection will surpass the effect of "Acoustics".
Or maybe this is the Ukrainian "Acoustic"?

[Operator]

And why does the last photo show a bullet hitting the armor from the inside of an armored personnel carrier - the Outskirts do not know how to use embrasures and are killed by an acoustic wave?

[Prisoner]

Zipper and silence. It only seems to me that the main component in this protection will be the air gap indicated in the diagram.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Lochly is an anecdote

[Shuttle]

It would be better to call it not "Acoustic", but "for the bush". In the sense that it is very similar in terms of protection.