Instead of the S-400 air defense system, Serbia purchased the Chinese FK-3 air defense systems

The Serbian armed forces will be replenished with Chinese FK-3 anti-aircraft missile systems. According to local media reports, the country's Ministry of Defense has purchased an export version of the Chinese HQ-22 air defense system.

According to available information, Serbia has acquired three batteries of the FK-3 air defense system, which is an export version of the Chinese latest generation HQ-22 medium-range air defense system. The complex was first shown at an exhibition in Zhuhai in 2016. The HQ-22 air defense system replaces the obsolete HQ-2 air defense systems in the PLA.

Unlike the basic HQ-22 system, which has a radius of damage of up to 150-170 km and a height of damage from 50 m to 27 km, the export version of the FK-3 has a kill zone of up to 100 km in range, the altitude parameters of damage are the same.

Serbia is reported to have become the first known buyer of the Chinese FK-3 air defense system.

Earlier it was reported that the Serbian Defense Ministry purchased the Russian Pantsir-S air defense missile system and was eager to purchase the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system, the work of which the Serbian military observed on its territory during the joint air defense exercises of the two countries held in Serbia. However, according to the country's president, Alexander Vucic, "there is no money now," but Serbia "will save".

Comments

[rocket757]

The question of the price / the price of the question .... all the "friendly pats" are for the goof x chiddlers !!!

[Uncle lee]

Instead of the S-400 air defense system, Serbia purchased the Chinese FK-3 air defense systems

But the Turks have agreed! And they bought it, on credit ... She's NATO, partners, damn it!

[The leader of the Redskins]

Nothing ... We will give them BRDM 2 again, with a body kit and a bell of fraternal help ...
And if something goes wrong, then we will declare perjurers and non-brothers! Look, Ukrainians and Belarusians ... That's it! Traitors!

[St Petrov]

Ukrainians and Belarusians ... Everyone! Traitors!

You grimace in such a way - so that you, a Ukrainian Svidomo, would not feel offended - you decided one size fits all - it will be easier to realize that I am not the only one, there are many of us. And Natsiks and Khatastrains and Belarusians and Ukrainians from the south and from the west. Not all traitors - but there are many of you - there are more in Ukraine than in Belarus (anyone can check it in the chat roulette). Raguli you are called in Ukraine, and in Belarus - zmagars - your Svidomo tribe is called.

Go to the Natsiks, throw them in the barn for which you drown, otherwise you like to ask here on the forum: "And what about us ?!" and stand up for the offended Ukrainians. For the fact that you are here on the forum poke at your fellow tribesmen who have gone.

For that, your hut and your brothers-in-arms are on the edge. That's why you listen here. For that scho Svidomo-for independence you drown the Ukrainian and Belarusian-for this and listen.

And you will continue to listen. I will not pass by.

[St Petrov]

I have a claim to Svidomit Square. So it's nothing personal. You are a sad legion. But you have disadvantages and challenges. Not everything is lost)

[The leader of the Redskins]

Oh, I beg you!
Don't tell me what to do, and I won't tell you where to go!

[The leader of the Redskins]

But I just don't understand one thing ...
While everyone is rowing on themselves, you are like that chicken - from yourself!
And what's the fat?
Don't ... Maybe you are a sadomasaist, then there are no questions ... Shout to yourself in the square with your pants off and expect that you will either be hurt or pleasant ... But warn the people in advance, he did not look stupid with misunderstandings!

[St Petrov]

I say - pot head - everything for your sad tribe

Shout to yourself in the square with your pants off and wait

you again confused the galloping tribe and our people. This is your joke - to jump to a state until you are left with a bare bottom - and then also look for the culprit behind the cordon.

These are the pan-heads jumping in the squares and screaming. When will it reach you and your brothers?

Only slaves go out to yell in the squares of their cities, under the command from behind the cordon.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I, of course, do not know what YOUR people are, but the fact that they do not differ in intelligence is YES!
But we, Russians, have seen not such provocateurs as YOU, so ... All the best to you ...

[St Petrov]

And here we are, Russians

show me a Russian who will drown for the independence of Belarus and Ukraine.
What Russian are you? Don't make me laugh, Storyteller. there are such "Russians" ...

You're Svidomo. Standard and such.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I will tell you a secret in a big secret ...
Only you - to anyone!
We are Russians, always for independence! Moreover, not only in Russia, but also in fraternal countries.
But with you, I don't even know what to do ...

[St Petrov]

But with you, I don't even know what to do ...

and what, square raguli can do something?

We are Russians, always for independence!

you nerus, which beguiled the coast. Moderators, I hope the word "nerus" is not an insult?

You are substituting concepts and meanings. Yulish, like Svidomo too.

Russian people will never drown Belarusians and Ukrainians for independence from Russia. So it's time for you to stop deceiving everyone here - pretending to be Russian.

Why are Svidomye so shy?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Not. If I call me that, half-breed, I won't even be offended ... I don't know about others ...
It's a shame that you, with your posters and comments, expose the nation as not smart people ... After all, there are also foreigners. Jews, Bulgarians, Belarusians, the same Ukraine ...
And here you are, with your pearls and assumptions ... Well, what will Intourists think of us, looking at you?

[St Petrov]

the nation

tell me about the great Ukrainian NATION

[The leader of the Redskins]

I don't even know where to start ...
Hardworking. The whole sea was dug up.
They have a history. Gogol recognized and illuminated, and after him we too ...
They know how to build - an example is Moscow and the Moscow region, there is enough of this nation ...
They love to cook. Borsch, dumplings, potato pancakes, lard in various forms ...
Combat. The Cossacks and the GSS are recognition of this ...
Independent ... Maidan.
In general, like the rest of the nation! Do you have any comments?

[St Petrov]

if you are interested in my opinion-then you are just a great ukroariy.

Do you have any comments?

in what year was this nation bred and formalized? in what great battles was the greatness of the Ukrainian nation forged?

Did the enemies know that you were Ukrainians in these battles?

[The leader of the Redskins]

How, how everything is neglected ...
In what year was this nation bred ...
Are we talking about people or the breed of dogs? Then name the date of the "withdrawal" of the Germans, British, French ... We, Russians, in the end! Maybe public holidays are celebrated on this occasion?
You must be ashamed!
Yes, I understand that now your accomplices will come flying in and make me "minuses", but your approach is the approach in Auschwitz !!!
Aha! A little different from others? So into the oven! And hair for mattresses, and things for others, and ashes for fertilization!
Sorry, but I am sending a complaint!

[St Petrov]

Then name the date of the "withdrawal" of the Germans, British, French

everything can be traced. and about the "British" and about the "Germans". I'm asking about great Ukrainians

[The leader of the Redskins]

Byzantine poets talked about
Great Englishmen, Germans, Frenchmen, Koreans? ...
Develop the theme! You haven't answered my little counter-question!

[St Petrov]

About the British:
there were Celtic tribes (Britons, etc.), then Germanic tribes - Angles, Saxons, Jutes - moved to the islands from the mainland. They partly assimilated the Celts, partly drove them into the mountains of Scotland, Wales and Cornwall.

And what about the Ukrainians?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, tell me where our country is Kkltia ... Julia ...
Yes, any "savvy" Ukrainian will twist the story about the tribes to you, that you will feel like a homeless mongrel!
Live realities!

[St Petrov]

Live realities!

this is your bill across the Crimea. And in reality - he is ours
And Kharkov is also ours, but in reality it will be a little later

We took on a lot - and you won't carry everything, guys)

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well! Go ahead! What works were mentioned? Especially Koreans ...

[St Petrov]

I'm asking you about the Ukrainian nation. tell about your rulers and victories and glorious past

Where did you mention it? The Byzantines were supposed to know and write.

Who was the ruler of the Ukrainians during the time of Ivan the Terrible? Did you know about the Ukrainian nation at that time?

[The leader of the Redskins]

To begin with, not mine. This is a factor.
Secondly, I am not a history teacher for you, so that I am ignorant to answer questions! It's just not my profile, I'm a techie!
Thirdly, unlike you, I did not disdain to get into Wikipedia. The Byzantine Empire ended its existence in 14 ... year, the Russian one began its existence in 17 ...
Feel the difference?
Ukraine, as a state, was in 1918 and since 1991.
Few? You still need to respect. Like dozens of other, newly formed countries.
And I remind you - you and I didn't drink half a liter, so that everyone would poke me around!

[St Petrov]

Few? You still need to respect. Like dozens of other, newly formed countries.

why should I respect? you didn’t come up with a new nation - you called the Russian people Ukrainians

do I need to respect mankurism? Who formalized the state for you and in consequence of what?

You took someone else's and use it, and it is natural that you do not like what I am writing here. Complaining won't help. The RF Armed Forces will re-register everything .. And will not respect it.

[The leader of the Redskins]

As O. Bender said:
- I have no more questions ...
All the best to you in your great chauvinism

[St Petrov]

Your great chauvinism

great power chauvinism.
I do not respect mankurt. I respect the people of our state living on the territory called Ukraine - I do not even respect - and I do not share with myself - that is, I love them as much as I love myself.
But mankurt, not the people. Only a certain part of the Mankurt lives there.

PS A lot of people live on the territory of your newly formed state, who consider the border between our states to be a rudiment of the 90s.

If you knew how much, you would whine a little along with your independence. They are waiting for the Russian army in Odessa and in Kharkov and in Mariupol

Our dear ones are waiting for Russia to take them back. And we Russians in Russia are waiting for a window of opportunity, as with the Crimea. Judging by what is happening in the barn, it won't take long

PS it was you who believed that you were Ukrainian - holding a blue book with a pitchfork in your hands. There are such people, but you are not the majority in the South and East.

[Cristall]

Quote: s-t Petrov

They are waiting for the Russian army in Odessa

Quote: s-t Petrov

Our dear ones are waiting for Russia to take them back.

Wow...
You have not confused 2014 until a certain point and today ..
Because there was such a period. True, he swam. Moreover, he left the most unpleasant aftertaste and a huge lesson in the form of gray areas in CADLO for those who like to wait and hope.

[Asad]

Are you one hundred percent sure that you do not have Ukrainian or Polish blood? And what an insult, Ukrainian?

[St Petrov]

My grandfather was born in Odessa - and when he was born - the concept of Ukrainian was just entering into everyday life

[Asad]

In short, a pure Aryan.

[St Petrov]

but what were the Ukrainians called in the Empire? Ukrainians?
It was just after the Empire that this great Nation began to be forged.
Brought out artificially.

The same Ukrainian nation as Odessa and Kharkov are Ukrainian cities.
Temporary misunderstanding.

[Cristall]

Quote: s-t Petrov

but what were the Ukrainians called in the Empire? Ukrainians?

In the Empire, they began to be called officially (as they lowered them from above) - Little Russians, Little Russians. After the destruction of the ZS and the establishment of the MK by Peter, it was impossible otherwise.
and so they were "Ruska", "Ruska" Rusyns, Orthodox (which modern Ukraine does not refuse)
Initially, the Ukrainians were Polish subjects at the border. And only Vyhovsky extended it to residents and Cossacks, not Poles.

[Cristall]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Russian began her at 17 ...
Feel the difference?
Ukraine, as a state, was in 1918 and since 1991.

Duc RFSR is similar.
True subjectivity is all the same from the Russian kingdom.
However, if both countries suddenly declare subjectivity with the CD, then both will have a huge history. However, even without this, both countries trace their history back to the 9th century.
Fiercely competing for a common history and pulling the blanket over themselves.

[postum]

Strange as it may seem, but Ukrainians are fighting against such "Petrovs" in the ATO

[St Petrov]

Strange as it may seem, but Ukrainians are fighting against such "Petrovs" in the ATO

and sho, it turns out?

And why does it seem to me that you will merge after the question about the ownership of Crimea? Or are you a brave Ukrainian and get along with reality?

PS I know exactly why you are not fighting for the Great Ukraine. Because such is the quality of the material. But don’t hang your nose, you are not the only Ukrainian patriot. There are no others here Yes, Chief?

[postum]

Well, I became a Ukrainian from Perm, business. Although I saw your adequacy and confirmed my words

[St Petrov]

according to the rules of Permian writing, you decided to write Ukrainians with a capital letter?
Probably you have recently become a Perm, so you write about Ukrainians with a big letter
Perm Dmitry, whose Crimea?

[postum]

There are no rules for Permian writing, but there is a Permian script. I wrote it with great because it is a bad habit that came from English. Crimea Russian. Believe it or not, I don't care, but I'm Perm

You can, of course, look for such photos in Yandex, but you won't find the problem

[The leader of the Redskins]

No, dear! Independence is not only on the scale of Belarusians or ukrov from Russia or the United States! She is in everything! In the country, in everyday life, in the family, after all! For a henpecked person, independence is to go out for a beer with friends! And since you have independence in your concept, then excuse me ... Thank God there is another consciousness ...

[St Petrov]

No, dear! Independence is not only on the scale of Belarusians or ukrov from Russia or the United States! She is in everything! In the country, in everyday life, in the family, after all! For a henpecked person, independence is to go out for a beer with friends! And since you have independence in your concept, then I'm sorry ...

let's use human language now - why Crimea, Odessa and Nikolaev with Kharkov - should be independent from Russia and dependent on a country with a pitchfork on the coat of arms or some other, fictional with the same fictional nation inhabiting these tangible lands.

These "muesli" yours need to be formalized now with examples

[Ramon Mercader]

Announce the entire list please (s)
Why is it so modest?

[St Petrov]

can you answer? another warrior of independence

[Ramon Mercader]

First, learn not to poke at strangers, Vasechkin.

[St Petrov]

on the merits of the question is there something?

[Ramon Mercader]

24 regional centers, it is essentially

[St Petrov]

24 regional centers, it is essentially

Do you still consider Crimea a region of Ukraine, sick?
Wake up and sing
24 this was in the past. Now there will be a countdown. You don't even have to memorize the new number of areas yet and don't buy a new map yet.

[St Petrov]

24 regional centers, it is essentially

how many of you do you think there are such diseases here on the site, who considers Crimea to be Ukraine?)
Will you recruit a platoon of soldiers?

First, learn not to poke at strangers, Vasechkin.

Svidomo Nezalezhnik from Ukraine gives advice on behavior. But I just wanted to "you". Common sense does not allow me to "vykat" Svidomo

PS Why are you, a Ukrainian, not ready to give your life for Ukraine, but are ready to work under the nickname "Hans Velikoukrainsky" on the forum, defending the integrity of the ridiculous state formation?)

Where is your pride, Patriots? Really in pressing the "-" button? Where is the Cossack spirit that is sung in your sad hymn?

[Ramon Mercader]

Slu, you remind me so of Trotsky ...
"And sho is I so in love with you?" (C)

[St Petrov]

whose Crimea, the accountant of the Ukrainian regions?
Now we will correct your Ukrainian, Svidomo arithmetic

[Ramon Mercader]

Vasechkin. Well, you assassinated Cossack that! Here we, Svidomites, with the same question, pester decent people. Accordingly, I conclude - you are undercover Svidomo. You even put Zimbabwe at registration, and the manner of communication gives you out with giblets.
Usyk correctly said - Crimeans.
I’ll just add on my own, certainly not yours, Vasechkin.
Well, the spitting image of Trotsky !!!

[St Petrov]

)) so how many areas in the wonderful country of Ukraine, Svidomo Ukrainian?

Show your Ukrainian arithmetic

Do not be shy, get used to it.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Here I agree with RAMONOM.
First, you need to clarify the coordinate system. As for me - 1991. Were there any complaints? Voiced them?
And why should you wave your fists now?
How is Japan's mother with the Kuriles? so don't touch? Like Kherson and Kharkov, then give it back!
As soon as there is a piece of paper, you need to dance from it. There is a piece of paper for these regions. And because of this paper, Crimea is not recognized by the world either. Yes, what the world is there - go, find Sberbank on the peninsula!

[St Petrov]

As soon as there is a piece of paper, you need to dance from it.

Well, you and dance with a piece of paper. And we are not jumping with Crimea, we are concentrating. The sea is ahead of the work, "Zaliv" in Kerch is already loaded

[Ramon Mercader]

Vasechkin, are you ready to give your life for the Motherland?
If yes - lick the outlet, make this world cleaner and kinder.

[St Petrov]

Vasechkin, are you ready to give your life for the Motherland?
If yes - lick the outlet, make this world cleaner and kinder.

I feel offended in your post, great Ukrainian
The little ones only dissolve in your anthem by themselves
You have to do something.
You need to protect your barn.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: c-Petrov

Vasechkin, are you ready to give your life for the Motherland?
If yes - lick the outlet, make this world cleaner and kinder.

I feel offended in your post, great Ukrainian
The little ones only dissolve in your anthem by themselves
You have to do something.
You need to protect your barn.

Leave alone from Ukraine, let them live as they want, and from Belarus too. The Russian Empire was pissed off in 1918

[St Petrov]

Leave Ukraine alone, let them live as they want.

I will do as I want. How do you like this answer?)

[Pilat2009]

Quote: s-t Petrov

I will do as I want. How do you like this answer?)

That there are few problems in Russia?

[Cristall]

Quote: s-t Petrov

why Crimea, Odessa and Nikolaev and Kharkov - should be independent from Russia and dependent on a country with a pitchfork on the coat of arms or some other fictional nation with the same fictional nation inhabiting these tangible lands.

maybe because the Russian Federation itself wanted it. Did it. It approved and contributed, though not only by the Russian Federation. And the historical and cultural process itself.
Once upon a time there was almost nothing in this place. And once there were generally ancient Roman and Greek colonies. Can he also make a claim ... Greece and Italy are not making claims to us *?
Turkey may, for example, Hajibey demand back .. And the entire Crimean Khanate .. to annul the QC peace if it has not yet been canceled.
In short, this is a dispute to nowhere.
Some Russians have more complaints about Ukraine than any country in the world. No country has so many claims. Both geographically and culturally and materially.

[Cristall]

Quote: s-t Petrov

show me a Russian who will drown for the independence of Belarus and Ukraine

I have been proved many times that independent republics are better. They are freeloaders and Russia develops much better without freeloaders.
So independent Belarus and Ukraine are a direct benefit. Buffer, sales market, lack of "freeloaders".
True, this is all given the absence of territorial wars, for without them it is a zone of Russian capital and influence.
So the interests of Russian Russians are in the independence of Ukraine and Belarus.

[St Petrov]

So the interests of Russian Russians are in the independence of Ukraine and Belarus.

This is for you, Nezalezhnik, so you want it but it won't be

[Vlad.by]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I, of course, do not know what YOUR people are, but the fact that they do not differ in intelligence is YES!
And here we are, Russians ...

Monya, tell us where you were sent, sho, did you come right here?

[kris_67]

How you "Hurray patriots" spat :). Now you will become a Bendera, fascist, right-wing sector, and you will learn a lot more about yourself.

[Simfy]

the cost of the S-400 also includes a "package of sanctions", and Serbia certainly will not pull them (

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Simfy

the cost of the S-400 also includes a "package of sanctions", and Serbia certainly will not pull them (

That is, if there was an opportunity for the United States to profitably sell its system / and subsequently profitably use all the combat capabilities of this air defense /, then they would use the sanctions mechanism to assert their competitive advantage.
And even then they would have thought 100 times, tk. The EU and NATO are trying to actively draw Serbia into their orbits. And such sanctions would strengthen the position of the pro-Russian forces inside Serbia.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Instead of the S-400 air defense system, Serbia purchased the Chinese FK-3 air defense systems

But the Turks have agreed! And they bought it, on credit ... She's NATO, partners, damn it!

So you can't save enough for all the loans, and you don't need palm oil in such quantities either.

[vVvAD]

Well, you also compared
22 Türkiye 173.900 190.400 −16.500 2017
75 Serbia 16.250 16.930 −1.060 2017
These are, as it were, budgets of $ million, from Wikipedia - and to hell with it: is the order of the numbers clear?

[Orange bigg]

So soon, Chinese MRBMs may appear in Serbia. In the center of Europe. Washington will be unhappy. So Serbia may be attacked again.

[The leader of the Redskins]

MRBM what is it?
BMP
BMD
BRDM
And there are many more abbreviations, but I do not know what you said.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

MRBM what is it?
BMP
BMD
BRDM
And there are many more abbreviations, but I do not know what you said.

Medium Range Ballistic Missiles.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Thank. Although you explained the abbreviation. And about the cons, I'm not offended ...

[Revival]

Think ballistic medium range missile

[Vend]

Quote: rocket757

The question of the price / the price of the question .... all the "friendly pats" are for the goof x chiddlers !!!

This is a market, so there is nothing supernatural here.

[rocket757]

Yes to me that sho?
Illusions have been dispelled a long time ago, wait a bit and it will be half a century.
Life, service, it teaches everything well, if / when you use your head for its intended purpose and for memory it is a sin to complain.
I have always been exactly the same about the Serbs, but about their rulers ... well, mostly there are expressions.
Their affairs, let them themselves, themselves ...

[orionvitt]

I repeat the old adage:
If there is a lot of money, then they buy German weapons.
If there is not enough money, then they buy Chinese weapons.
If they want to fuck on kickbacks, they buy American weapons.
But if they are going to really fight, then they buy Russian.

[rocket757]

Not everything is so obvious, but they like to say so.

[orionvitt]

And what's not obvious here? Serbia has once again confirmed this.

[Vlad.by]

You might not be in time.
Even if you have money.

[smart ass]

People just live within their means

[rocket757]

So be it, no problem.

[kenig1]

Should Serbia Have One Friend?

[rocket757]

If a friend was suddenly .... Chinese, for example. What problems?

[bald]

Victor, I went through a lot - faith.
And moreover, everything is for the worse - he certainly raised (not he, he is a puppet) well, people are in the ass. Stick and think - Putin is a protege of the former USSR ..

[rocket757]

The former from the USSR, who are the upper ones, have concocted such a system, they are not Soviet in spirit, in deeds. Nothing connects them with that past, they are on their own, for themselves, for themselves.

[bald]

This idiot that is now going on in the politician, Victor, Vitya, I want my AKM and destroy injustice, who are they !? Yes, those who are now doing politics. If I'm wrong, compare and interpret the years.

[bald]

No faith, n to whom.

[bald]

We do not have and did not have, and you know that very well. I was a military man and stayed, I have not forgotten anything - I was called up in 1980 - I was not allowed to enter Afghan, although in the programs ...

[bald]

Good afternoon, Victor! I’m all in the garden - the cherry went crazy, as a politician, there was no such thing, about 89.

[rocket757]

Hi Vladimir
This year is another, but special. There was no winter, the pests overwintered smartly, so the harvest cannot even be shared with them. I don’t want to poison myself with chemistry, so the pests we have with a devastating score !!! There is a bit to eat, but no more shisha.

[PSih2097]

Quote: rocket757

Price issue / issue price

And what did you want - the HQ-22 is almost completely copied by the S-300PMU2 air defense system + more advanced electronics from the Chinese, and the most interesting thing is that it is interfaced with our C300 and S400 launchers.

[rocket757]

The question is not for me.
Well I wrote that the question is precisely the price.
It is clear to me why others think that they should buy only from us, this is their business.
The quality issue ..... is covered by the price.
That's all.

[prior]

Russia has no time to wipe itself of spitting in its direction. Including from the spitting of allies and "brothers".
Yeah. There is no longer a smell of the former greatness of the country.

[Graz]

okay to post garbage, well, they bought their right from others, but not very pleasant, but as it is written, the matter is in the price

[bayard]

Well, what can you do, we could not show some flexibility. The Serbs have no money, the S-400 are expensive ... But it was possible to offer the S-300 from the availability (as to Syria) - a couple of divisions, it is much cheaper. And after digging, they would buy a regimental set of S-400. All this fits very well into a single ACS, and they would have a modern air defense system.
And the Chinese apparently offered a loan and surprised at the price.
Free market relations.
And it is not known how the brothers will lead themselves further, they can join NATO ... over time.

[Vlad.by]

There is that Serbia for one and a half regimental sets of S-300s, especially if with Shells in cover. Of course, if you cover tightly, then you can place three or four regiments, and even saturate the old 125 skyscrapers.
NATO members will be very happy.
And so, the Chinese "three batteries" will not be enough in any case.

[smart ass]

Maybe it's all about a crooked foreign policy?

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Here you have to be more careful with terms, prior.
Russia is a country with a thousand-year history. And the stupid state that now "rules" on its territory, let's call it - RK - "Capitalist Russia" - is completely different. He doesn't care about his people. What is there to ask about fraternal assistance to Serbia? Who to ask? With the huckster? "The river is running - my river, the tanga is flowing - my tanga ..." - that's the x paradigm. The most powerful long-term doyka of Russia.
For spiritual meanness, God deprives x of reason. Where do you see a meaningful, coherent foreign policy? Some kind of turbidity, half measures and outright nonsense in Syria, Libya. They didn't really decide anything in Syria, they got into Libya. For years, they cannot cover the sky of Syria. Israel is just making fun of the Syrian air defense and the curators. Was that how the air defense of North Vietnam worked at one time? So did the curators from the Union work? The US Air Force was easy to build. ,, Superfortresses ,, in bundles poured down from heaven ... And these, ,, figures ,, （such and such）, （such and such） F-16 of the Israeli Air Force to shoot down zz, then, after the kick in Russia, at home, even in the kibbutz for cucumbers will not take）. By the way, there was information that Syria wants to buy Chinese air defense systems. In order to control your own sky without kludges curators.
For six （!） Years they have not decided anything about Donbass, they climb into Belarus. Where? Why? To quarrel the Slavic peoples?
There will be a serious state on the territory of Russia - everything will return. And a meaningful policy, domestic and foreign, and respect for fraternal peoples. And the ability to produce unique products, and the desire of the countries of the world to purchase it

[Arpad]

Quote: evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru

Russia is a country with a thousand-year history

The history of Russia as a state is less than 400 years old

Quote: evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru

And the stupid state that now "rules" on its territory, let's call it - RK - "Capitalist Russia" - is completely different. He doesn't care about his people

If we go back to your thesis about a thousand years of history - so most of these years Russia was either feudal or capitalist, and not an understandable entity called the USSR, existed for 70 years and has sunk into oblivion.
It's just nothing, even against the background of Russia's not-so-long existence.

[prior]

I will not object to your arguments with a single word. But as Vereshchagin said: "... I feel sorry for the state."

[paul3390]

In fact, for our Serb brothers, they could have dropped a little from the price ... Serbs are perhaps the only ones who never betrayed us .. But we, in 1999, alas ..

[Amin_vivec]

Throw off with this, throw off others ... So they brought up "non-brothers" on their heads - while the "freebies" are smiling at 32 teeth. And what is not in their language - so "damned Russian occupants."
They want Chinese and cheaper - their right)))

[bayard]

What do you know about relations between the USSR and Yugoslavia?
Perhaps no one stood further from us in Eastern Europe.
Now Serbia is under very strong pressure to join NATO, it is surrounded by hostile states, there is no access to the sea ... So it can join ... And it will be like with Yugoslavia ... or worse.
It was necessary to sell the S-300 from the presence of the MO - it would have turned out much cheaper, it would have been possible to give an installment plan for payment, and the Serbs would get themselves a long / medium-range air defense system. And later they would buy themselves an S-400.
But the Chinese turned out to be quicker - they have a lot of money, they are not tight.

[Vesista]

Thanks from Serbia.
As one of our professors said, .., if the English consider us to be "little Russian" and then help us! Do not pay for a gift s-400, ... we will pay, but not everything at once, ... it is impossible! could help us in the 90s, ... let us in, ... help now! Is it strong or not? Give the systems so that they can be protected ... we have enough of those from the west that we are not threatened with sanctions if we buy it or UTB. We want them to be told, "Well, that's enough already !!. Now I'll try to send a fighter to us! or force us and yes, to impose sanctions there, Russia."
Russians, Serbia are under pressure because of you, and you are nowhere! Do you have any baals-of-steel dates NOW SUPPORT OF Serbia, when from Washington they threaten us with sanctions if we buy something from you, and to say, YES, they will buy, and that's it! And they won't buy it, but we'll give it to them! "And so Serbia replied, .." Of course, WE WILL BUY! "And that's enough more!
The West divides itself a strong man into one maјenkoј of Serbia! What does not threaten some more mosque country ?!

[Livonetc]

Serbia's GDP is growing and not bad.
At the moment, a little less than Belarus.

[dmi3x]

radius of destruction up to 150-170 km

So the S-400 is a completely different level and different prices.
It's like comparing the budget Noname Chinese phone to the top-end iPhone.

[ivanec]

The top iPhone is also Chinese

[Pessimist22]

My Redmi Note 8 Pro has a better camera than Apple, why pay more?

[voyaka uh]

It's right. The Chinese almost caught up with Apple in mobile telephony

[3danimal]

Better than 11 pro ??
You are wrong, you have to fork out for a Chinese flagship, not radically cheaper than the last iPhone
By the way, your processor is Qualcomm.

[DominickS]

On Note 8, Mediatek is worth, not Qualcomm. And this is a minus, yes.

[3danimal]

I agree about the minus. My daughter has a Mi Max 2 tablet there Snapdragon (junior). The colleague Mi 10 pro has a top-end Dragon.

[Pessimist22]

You are wrong, the liquid-cooled MediaTek Helio G90T processor came out in September 2019.
The chipset is manufactured using a 12 nanometer technological process. The bit capacity of the central processor is 64 bits. The chipset is 8-core, the cores are distributed according to the 2 + 6 principle:

2x Cortex-A76 @ 2,05 GHz;
6x Cortex-A55 @ 2GHz.
This is MediaTek's first platform with Cortex-A76 cores.

The graphics subsystem is represented by the Arm Mali-G76MC4 video accelerator, operating at a frequency of up to 800 MHz.

Helio G90T from MediaTek features such technical solutions as:

Support for cameras with a resolution of 64 megapixels;
Support for screens with a scanning frequency of 90 Hz;
NFC module support;
Supports Quick Charge 4+ fast charging.

[3danimal]

I have Mi 9 pro, here is Snapdragon 855 plus. Everything works very well.

[Hermit21]

The Note 8 Pro Mediatek Helio G90T. Mediatek Chinese firm

[gorecc]

it's not so to put it mildly .. no matter how much the apple is scolded for their markups for the brand, etc. But these are still some of the best smartphones on the market, if not the best. And he already takes pictures, and even more so he takes pictures on his head better than any xiaomi.
In terms of cameras, only top-end huawei and samsung can compete with aple, well, there are already similar price tags ..

[3danimal]

That's right, where there are comparable characteristics - comparable prices.
In this case, claims to the owners of iPhones as "pontores" should also apply to the owners of flagships of Chinese and Korean brands.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Gorecc

and even more so it shoots better than any xiaomi.

This is yes, but you must admit the speed with which xiaomi is advancing is worthy of respect, and yes, in another two or three years Xiaomi will catch up with the iPhone ... for example, I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 64GB + 256 gb card, the only thing that is bad is android, the Chinese need to make their own system.

[DominickS]

It's just that Xiaomi too quickly decided to join the big uncles, without preparing special ground for this. With the price of the new Mi 10 Pro, I didn’t care much - it’s better to buy an iPhone, although I don’t want to support the American left with money.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Gorecc

no matter how the apple is scolded for their markups for the brand, etc. But these are still some of the best smartphones on the market, if not the best.

it is the best not because of the hardware, but because of the OS (and the only thing that annoys it is defending the interests of the owners of intellectual property, even books to read, you need to spend somewhere an hour searching and installing programs). For the iPad Pro 11 itself, so I know what I'm talking about, plus my wife's MacBook.

[Free wind]

What's better? The cheapest camera with optics still takes better pictures than just with an electronic zoom, they stuffed their face, neither the police nor an ambulance can be called, the phone will not recognize you. All these applications are everywhere, memory, insert it yourself. In short show-off. In general, I use a clamshell, well, it is shockproof, I need it, and the sensor does not work in the cold. on my hooks. Everything goes forward, everything is correct, but I use what I need.

[3danimal]

You need to greatly disfigure your face so that the iPhone does not recognize you. Samsung and others have a more primitive recognition system. Therefore, they are duplicated with a fingerprint scanner.

[orionvitt]

Quote: dmi3x

Chinese phone and top-end iPhone.

A top iPhone, it's just an expensive fish for pontorers. Stupidly overpaying for a bitten apple on the logo. What can you do, there is money, no mind is needed.

[3danimal]

See reviews of cameras and processors. At the time of release, 11pro is the fastest. The cameras shoot very well. The downside is the brand markup. But - its own ecosystem, its pluses.

[Pessimist22]

According to AntuTu, Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 has more points than Apple A13 Bionic, 578973 points against 500549 points.

[3danimal]

Only 11pro was introduced in September 2019, and the 865th in December of the same year. So there is no mistake.

[bar]

Another "ally" brother ...

[3danimal]

They never were. And the weight categories of the economy / industry are too different. Superpower Candidate # 2.

[Nikolaevich I]

FK-3? But then it turns out that the guidance of missiles is similar to the guidance of the 5V55 missiles of the S-300PT / PS complex ... S-400 is a weapon of a higher level ... What can you do .... "poor people" buy cheap things! If only it did not work out, as in that expression: Miser pays twice!

[Herman 4223]

I wonder how much the Chinese complex is cheaper than ours? Looks like the difference is not frail.

[Eldorado]

These are completely different complexes. The Chinese is of medium range, and the S-400 is long-range. Of course, the price tag is completely different.

[Herman 4223]

The S-400 has two missiles in the arsenal, one with a range of 400 km, and the other with 75. These are essentially the same class, but the Chinese do not have a long-range missile or they do not sell it.

[Amin_vivec]

Rafale for India was also initially "cheaper" than SU-35)))))

[Kosh]

Actually, in China, the HQ-22 was created as a much cheaper system in comparison with their own HQ-9B, since even the PLA budget did not pull the quick replacement of the remaining old HQ-2 with HQ-9 on the principle of division for division, which they adhere to.

[Alien From]

So think now where are friends and comrades ...

[jncnfdybr]

Serbia got nothing to be surprised at by the principle of "cheap and cheerful".

[Crabong]

So much for your brothers ...!

[bald]

I don’t understand at all, the West has become complete, why is there armaments for the West at all !?, for the fact that the states are replenishing their interest - Europe is down, everything was and is. But not everything lasts forever.

[Wolf]

There is no question here, but the most important thing! Radius 100km !!! Moreover, NATO considers it a threat to itself and correctly believes that today the S400 is the most frightening of air defense missile defense systems in the world. They threatened Serbia with total sanctions, but what can poor Vucic do then? But I have a question why the Beech M3 was not chosen ??? The radius of 70 km is not so big a difference, and 36 objects can simultaneously hit. Does anyone know the value of the Buk M3 for the same time on FC3 (XK 22) and the delivery time?
Od S400 weight NATO General Staff gets a heart problem and serious, and when they came to Serbia for training, they started to fall out of their chairs! S400 from Serbia has the capture of both the Adriatic and Rumunia, and Greece with NATO bases, and Albania, and Bulgaria and Italy, which means complete control of the BALKAN !!! For this, Vucic was probably PROHIBITED TO BUY S400 UNDER THREAT. If Russia came to Serbia for a long-term exercise with the S400, how can you find dengue to pay long-term rent and crew accommodation in Serbia, for a minimum of 10 years!
Live were
God forbid!

[Wolf]

And the crews can take Zhenya and the children with them, the climate is good, the food is normal, good luck, and the attitude towards the Rus is even good!

[yfast]

Quote: voyaka uh

It's right. The Chinese almost caught up with Apple in mobile telephony

The price, as it were, also caught up, but what is the point then in expensive China?

[Imperial Technocrat]

Vucic is from the co-operative / Stalinist clan, and after the assassination of Stalin in 1953, the clan's headquarters moved from the USSR to China (the Rockefellers seized power in the USSR). This clan is friendly to the Putin-Patrushev Imperials, but the main patron is still Xi Jingping https://t.me/dvaplustwo

[Vasyan1971]

However, according to the country's President Aleksandar Vucic, "there is no money now," but Serbia "will save".

A familiar trick. There is no money for a normal instrument, you buy a Chinese shnyaga hoping for the best. Hope dies first ...

[Kapkan]

For Serbia, it is desirable to begin by banning the logistics of NATO troops through their country.

[Cristall]

interesting topic.
Everything was, and Ukraine (where without her - Petrov tried)
We discussed Mobile phones and discussed the technique with the Chinese progress.
And even about the SAM itself, there were a couple of good comments.
Thanks to them. They just explained the choice of the Serbs.

[Magmax]

FK 3 is probably much cheaper but it is probably no match for S 400

[Al Asad]

Therefore, the Serbs need to sell the S-350 with an installment plan or a discount

[Siberian54]

competition!