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"We will shoot at iron": continuous firing from the AKS-74U until the muzzle brake breaks

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Experimenters in the field of small arms are not extinct in the world weapons... One of the areas for experimenting with weapons is testing them for "endurance", up to destruction. On the one hand, this is such a destructive fun, on the other, experiments have a very real practical meaning for both manufacturers and operators. This "experimental" shooting allows you to show what resource a particular weapon has, what firing mode it can support for a certain time of almost continuous use.


On the Kalashnikov channel, at the request of viewers, a video has been published, which presents an experiment on continuous firing from weapons such as the AKS-74U 5,45 mm caliber.

The experimenters use the old VAZ "six" as a target for shooting. As the shooter himself, a specialist of the concern Georgy Gubich, says: "We will shoot at the iron."

Six, seven, eight - the magazines replace each other almost continuously, while the firing in bursts continues, the machine behaves quite reliably.

But on the 10th store the muzzle brake burns out, it was simply torn apart.

Georgy Gubich on the 292nd in a row in a row with continuous shooting:

He will no longer be able to shoot, because when the "muzzle" broke, the barrel bent. The music did not last long.


Full video with the experiment from the Kalashnikov concern:

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  1. svp67
    svp67 2 August 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    To be honest, I expected something like this from this "kid" ... Although the fact that its shorter barrel bent was still a surprise ...
    It is a pity that they will not be able to subject the RPK-16 or any of the AEK assault rifles to such tests ...
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 2 August 2020 17: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      It is a pity that they will not be able to subject the RPK-16 or any of the AEK assault rifles to such tests ...

      If I'm not mistaken, the samples you designated were also "killed" on this channel. now, unfortunately, I cannot go to clarify.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 August 2020 18: 19 New
      +3
      "We will shoot at iron": continuous firing from the AKS-74U until the muzzle brake breaks

      Too lazy to understand the manuals, but the AKS-74U does not have a muzzle brake, but a flame-extinguisher! Which twists with incomplete disassembly of the latter.
    3. Alexga
      Alexga 2 August 2020 18: 30 New
      +1
      something like this from this "kid" and expected ..

      Well, as a weapon of combat, it can be called a stretch. I had 9 AKS-74Us in my regiment according to the report card. With the commander, they almost broke their heads, who to arm them. Armed driver mechanics of the TN of the artillery battalion control. True, local military leaders decided to arm the AKS-74 tank crews. So it turned out 4 AKS for three members with one attachment point in the tank. And in the RF Armed Forces who are armed with AKS-74U, if not a secret. In the good old days, it was planned to arm it with the numbers of the AGS-17 calculation. But only the infantry.
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 August 2020 19: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: AlexGa
        And in the RF Armed Forces who are armed with AKS-74U, if not a secret.

        But earlier, it was the weapons of officers for the war period, crews of combat vehicles, in tanks, at the commander and mechanic, at the AKS gunner, signalmen ... grenade launchers. In short, he occupied the niche of a submachine gun.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 2 August 2020 19: 23 New
          +1
          In short, he occupied the niche of a submachine gun.

          In my opinion, most likely a replacement for the APS. But there is nowhere to put them in the tank. Only in the rear turret spare parts for the T-72. If you remember the 0035 order on ammunition, there was an attempt to settle this issue. But then, after the meeting of Humpbacked with Reagan in Vladivostok in 86, a complete mess began in the army. In my opinion so.
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 August 2020 20: 13 New
            0
            Quote: AlexGa
            In my opinion so.

            Agree
            Quote: AlexGa
            But there is nowhere to put them in the tank.

            This is generally a sore subject. Why has always been a supporter of arming the crew members with compact pistol machine guns, I really liked the "Bizon" with a screw magazine.
            And so, in the same Chechnya, the crew often kept their submachine guns not inside, but outside, which is not good ... but allowed the crew to quickly leave the car, if necessary
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 2 August 2020 20: 38 New
              +1
              "Bizon" is also not small, it can interfere with the work of the crew. And in general, if it came to small arms for a tanker, then things are bad. I looked through the information on the Internet, it turns out that it is not intended for mere mortals in the army. Yes, and PMovsky cartridge is somehow not very good for such a weapon. True, I shot at 50 meters from the APS, which seems to be quite normal, but to be honest, my favorite pistol is a PKM with a 250-round tape, equipped with LPS-T 48 -LPS, etc. My father served in Germany in the 50s, they had the APS in their arsenal among the officers of the command line.
              1. svp67
                svp67 2 August 2020 21: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: AlexGa
                "Bizon" is also not small, it can interfere with the crew's work.

                It can be worn on the chest and the store itself makes working with this PP inside a combat vehicle more convenient
                Quote: AlexGa
                And in general, if it came to small arms for a tanker, then things are bad.

                I agree. The same "Bizon" has a magazine for 64 rounds, which somehow increases the chance.
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 2 August 2020 21: 17 New
                  +2
                  The same "Bizon" has a magazine for 64 rounds, which somehow increases the chance.

                  I absolutely agree with you!
                2. Nehist
                  Nehist 4 August 2020 10: 21 New
                  0
                  Bison !!! Moreover, complete !!! Even a dumped PM that has not been cleaned in the mud does not have so many refusals on the shooter. Here Bison becomes this,
              2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 August 2020 21: 35 New
                +1
                In a bison with a screw magazine, in contrast to a carob, it does not bulge, does not cling to anything. The truth is a little harder.
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 2 August 2020 21: 52 New
                  +1
                  In such cases, this is more important than weight.
            2. sg7s
              sg7s 2 August 2020 21: 53 New
              +1
              With two !! Meters tried to get into a maple about forty centimeters thick .... Bagram. 88, it didn't work out, the battalion commander rushed, to me - to mug ... you, they say. and I have a shooting category ... 93 did it out of small things ... that I would not have hit it - there is just a spread ...
    4. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 2 August 2020 18: 35 New
      -1
      Why are these tests?
      Only the thing was spoiled
    5. would
      would 4 August 2020 14: 08 New
      0
      AK-12 was subjected to a natural result, the burst of the barrel in the place of the forging. RPK-16 design differs slightly.

      AEK will not be able to test it because it is made by the Degtyarevites, but the video is being shot by Kalashnikov.
      1. would
        would 4 August 2020 15: 54 New
        0
        Mistaken AK-12 tore in another place, but there is also a stress concentrator.
  2. Catfish
    Catfish 2 August 2020 16: 18 New
    11
    And why all this? An old joke about a Japanese sawmill and a crowbar immediately comes to mind. Those. foolishly you can and ... you know what to break. request stop
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 2 August 2020 16: 30 New
      0
      I also never understood these experiments ... After all, in war, in battle, this will never happen.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 2 August 2020 17: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I also never understood these experiments ... After all, in war, in battle, this will never happen.

        This is advertising!
      2. svp67
        svp67 2 August 2020 21: 16 New
        -1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        ... Indeed, in war, in battle, this will never happen.

        So in battle, no one will drag a weapon behind a car in dust and dirt for an hour ... but there is such a thing as a "test", when you need to create the most unbearable conditions for the weapon in order to understand its capabilities. Then they brought the weapon to the brink ...
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 4 August 2020 10: 25 New
          0
          Complete nonsense !!! You do not carry crap as a solid colonel !!!
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 August 2020 11: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Nehist
            You do not carry crap as a solid colonel !!!

            I am not going to help you in this matter, bear it yourself ...
    2. Archon
      Archon 2 August 2020 19: 17 New
      +1
      In general, it's not too bad, because this is not a new weapon at all and now there should be something more modern.
  3. sabakina
    sabakina 2 August 2020 16: 19 New
    +3
    ! They would have screwed the tape from "Maxim" to the APS!
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 2 August 2020 16: 34 New
      +7
      A good idea laughing , You advise them, otherwise, poor fellows, they don't even know how to show off. wink
  4. paco.soto
    paco.soto 2 August 2020 16: 23 New
    0
    It was interesting to see! I even remembered the smell with a smile. He does not use hearing protection, now it is a must in Geyrope, smiled.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 2 August 2020 16: 36 New
      +6
      Does not use hearing protection ...

      But in a cool outfit, as if going to war ... Dudes, I could take shops from the table, and not pull out from the unloading. laughing
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 2 August 2020 16: 40 New
        +1
        But in a cool outfit, ©
        I agree with you. But this is necessary in such reckless tests. Even his hands are not very protected, just in case.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 2 August 2020 16: 43 New
          +5
          I'm not talking about protection, it's really necessary, I'm talking about the rest of the military camouflage outfit. In childhood, we also dabbled in all kinds of "pyrotechnics" on what was found in the trenches, but no one dressed in full dress. smile
          1. paco.soto
            paco.soto 2 August 2020 16: 55 New
            +2
            I'm not talking about protection, it's really necessary, I'm talking about the rest of the military camouflage outfit. In childhood, we also dabbled in all kinds of "pyrotechnics" on what was found in the trenches, but no one dressed in full dress. smile ©
            Neutral opinion: on the first part - well, he's supposedly a blogger and his own director. For teenagers, his video is very cool (for old people like me too)
            According to the second, chewing his beard: in his old age, some amazing structure of memory appeared. So ya seriously can not understand how and why ya took and lived to see my years! He smiled.
            Regards to you.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 2 August 2020 17: 03 New
              +4
              So ya seriously can not understand how and why ya took and lived to see my years! He smiled.

              I smiled too. smile Everything is the same, which is surprising. drinks
              1. paco.soto
                paco.soto 2 August 2020 17: 15 New
                +2
                smiled too. smile Everything is the same, which is surprising. ©
                No, what's serious about you? Now I take it and analyze it very calmly and began not to "believe in the theory of probability Lla" for my years ya should have died "a hundred thousand times", and now, thanks to my Son, I have already become a grandfather and I dream that Daughters would be quicker to "play Russian" here.
                Thank you for your reply. Best regards to you. With smile
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 2 August 2020 17: 19 New
                  +2
                  ... now, thanks to my Son, I have already become a grandfather ...

                  A happy man, and mine are not yet in a hurry to make me a grandfather, but I do not urge them on, the people are already grown up, they decide for themselves. good
                  Good luck and health! Was glad to meet you. drinks
                  1. paco.soto
                    paco.soto 2 August 2020 17: 29 New
                    +2
                    mine are not yet in a hurry to make me a grandfather, but I don't push them, ©
                    I understood: "the old man will not peck out the eyes of the old man!" ™ ®
                    I apologize for the familiarity! Best regards to you. And everything that you want. Children now, unfortunately, really everything
                    more removed from the sweet nostalgic "house building of the USSR".
                    Regards to you!
              2. Alexander Drobyshev
                Alexander Drobyshev 3 August 2020 15: 32 New
                +3
                Good afternoon, no matter how funny it looks, but at the heart of it he has a bulletproof vest, which, in general, is necessary for such tests, since his trunks burst several times, well, you are right, for videos they often use excessive entourage

                in the photo there are early videos, there he has a regular army 6B23
    2. Alexander Drobyshev
      Alexander Drobyshev 3 August 2020 15: 25 New
      +2
      What does Gayrope have to do with it? These tests are done at the Kalashnikov concern, they tested the AK-74M, AK-12, AK-103 (as many as 2 times, but they could not break the barrel)
      , RPD, RPK, PPSh-41 (most not killed)
  5. Trevis
    Trevis 2 August 2020 16: 45 New
    +1
    Sadiugi damn it!
  6. Avior
    Avior 2 August 2020 16: 50 New
    +4
    The meaning of such destruction of weapons in situations that are unrealistic for real use is not clear
    It's another matter, they would check the accuracy of the shortened version at intense fire, this is an important parameter and there is a lot of controversy about this, it would be interesting to see
    As for the spit that the presenter said in the video, the holes were not counted, it is impossible to conclude how many bullets hit the car, how many not, the firing range is also not entirely clear.
    To pierce two cans a little thicker than a can is not a big task for a cartridge, but even in this case they did not really show how much actually came out from that side, only in passing.
    In general, not the video that would be viewed informatively, and that would remove any questions about the use of a shortened version in real conditions, unfortunately
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 August 2020 21: 46 New
      -1
      From practical experience.
      There are 6 assault rifles for 700-900 people at the test site, each with 6 rounds. Plus then completing the remainder of about 1000 rounds per barrel per day. 16 divisions + 2 regiments and 2 battalions. Approximately 6000 rounds per barrel. All is well, but then they took 4 more fresh zinc pieces to finish the zinc, since after 6-7 hundred Ksyusha began to spit.
      The murder of the gun on the video is sickening, respectfully Kote!
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 4 August 2020 10: 32 New
        -1
        Gg two Ksenia 3500 rounds ate and did not choke.
  7. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 2 August 2020 16: 52 New
    0
    Everything is expected, 5.45 and a short barrel cannot produce long-term continuous fire, in this regard 7.62x39 roll. But Ksenia is good for her goals.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 2 August 2020 18: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: ssergey1978
      But Ksenia is good for her goals.

      That's it!
  8. Undecim
    Undecim 2 August 2020 17: 31 New
    +2
    С On the one hand, this is such destructive fun, on the other, experiments have a very real practical meaning for both manufacturers and operators.
    For manufacturers and operators, these exercises have no meaning at all.
  9. V1er
    V1er 2 August 2020 17: 37 New
    +1
    This video is much more interesting.
  10. zenion
    zenion 2 August 2020 18: 29 New
    +1
    There are also extremators!
  11. Suslin
    Suslin 2 August 2020 19: 09 New
    +1
    Something I don't understand this hype. There are instructions for using this weapon! If you have not read it, then there is nothing to break a comedy. Go teach materiel!
    1. Alexander Drobyshev
      Alexander Drobyshev 3 August 2020 15: 41 New
      +1
      In general, this video was a response to comments like "AKSU starts to spit at the feet after the second store," and "yes, we loaded ten stores from the PKK out of it and even henna", and this is not a matter of instructions, at the Kalashnikov concern there are no such fools
  12. Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 2 August 2020 21: 28 New
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY8iNt064sE&list=LLXoVwXYzcQ7DeGZNFlslpCw&index=80

    The M4 from the Adams Arms company with a gas-piston system, by the way, is MUCH cheaper than the XK416, before the barrel was bent to hell (exactly in the place where the barrel is thin on the M4, in the army, fasteners to the M203 go to the M569, civilians do not go there, but still, many want "like in the army. So. The gas-piston system WASN'T WORKED OUT. The barrel bent, predictably, in the thinnest place. XNUMX shots almost continuously. And this is given the fact that the barrel is NOT CHROMED but" nitrided ".

    By the way, in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cr9e3N6HEw a cheap M4, even without the "nitride" barrel coating, withstood 440 shots at a continuous pace. Not bad. On the same channel, they also mocked the Kalash.
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 2 August 2020 22: 12 New
      0
      From "simple" experience - not a weapon, not a machine gun, not a pistol - in any way ... I shot (happened) from everything - from m-16 to tar and stinger, Boers, Mauser, and so on. I have not seen anything more useless ... The meaning of this large volley with NO, no aiming ... TRASH ...
  13. sergo1914
    sergo1914 2 August 2020 23: 35 New
    +1
    Brainy guys work in the Kalashnikov concern. It's stressful and frustrating at the same time.
  14. dgonni
    dgonni 5 August 2020 22: 31 New
    0
    It's a pity for the car and so cool video. In general, we will know that for a long and happy life, a short man larger than three stores cannot be shot at a wild pace :)
  15. Charik
    Charik 5 September 2020 11: 18 New
    0
    Demonstrate also on Aurus with armor laughing