"We will shoot at iron": continuous firing from the AKS-74U until the muzzle brake breaks

Experimenters in the field of small arms are not extinct in the world weapons... One of the areas for experimenting with weapons is testing them for "endurance", up to destruction. On the one hand, this is such a destructive fun, on the other, experiments have a very real practical meaning for both manufacturers and operators. This "experimental" shooting allows you to show what resource a particular weapon has, what firing mode it can support for a certain time of almost continuous use.

On the Kalashnikov channel, at the request of viewers, a video has been published, which presents an experiment on continuous firing from weapons such as the AKS-74U 5,45 mm caliber.

The experimenters use the old VAZ "six" as a target for shooting. As the shooter himself, a specialist of the concern Georgy Gubich, says: "We will shoot at the iron."

Six, seven, eight - the magazines replace each other almost continuously, while the firing in bursts continues, the machine behaves quite reliably.

But on the 10th store the muzzle brake burns out, it was simply torn apart.

Georgy Gubich on the 292nd in a row in a row with continuous shooting:

He will no longer be able to shoot, because when the "muzzle" broke, the barrel bent. The music did not last long.

Full video with the experiment from the Kalashnikov concern:

Comments

[svp67]

To be honest, I expected something like this from this "kid" ... Although the fact that his shorter barrel bent was still a surprise ...
It is a pity that they will not be able to subject the RPK-16 or any of the AEK assault rifles to such tests ...

[Malyuta]

Quote: svp67

It is a pity that they will not be able to subject the RPK-16 or any of the AEK assault rifles to such tests ...

If I'm not mistaken, the samples you designated were also "killed" on this channel. now, unfortunately, I cannot go to clarify.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

"We will shoot at iron": continuous firing from the AKS-74U until the muzzle brake breaks

Too lazy to understand the manuals, but the AKS-74U does not have a muzzle brake, but a flame-extinguisher! Which twists with incomplete disassembly of the latter.

[Alexga]

something like this from this "kid" and expected ..

Well, as a weapon of combat, it can be called a stretch. I had 9 AKS-74Us in my regiment according to the report card. With the commander, they almost broke their heads, who to arm them. Armed driver mechanics of the TN of the artillery battalion control. True, local military leaders decided to arm the AKS-74 tank crews. So it turned out 4 AKS for three members with one attachment point in the tank. And in the RF Armed Forces who are armed with AKS-74U, if not a secret. In the good old days, it was planned to arm it with the numbers of the AGS-17 calculation. But only the infantry.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

And in the RF Armed Forces who are armed with AKS-74U, if not a secret.

But earlier, it was the weapons of officers for the war period, crews of combat vehicles, in tanks, at the commander and mechanic, at the AKS gunner, signalmen ... grenade launchers. In short, he occupied the niche of a submachine gun.

[Alexga]

In short, he occupied the niche of a submachine gun.

In my opinion, most likely a replacement for the APS. But there is nowhere to put them in the tank. Only in the rear turret spare parts for the T-72. If you remember the 0035 order on ammunition, there was an attempt to settle this issue. But then, after the meeting of Humpbacked with Reagan in Vladivostok in 86, a complete mess began in the army. In my opinion so.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

In my opinion so.

Agree

Quote: AlexGa

But there is nowhere to put them in the tank.

This is generally a sore subject. Why I have always been a supporter of arming crew members with compact pistol machine guns, I really liked the "Bison" with a screw magazine.
And so, in the same Chechnya, the crew often kept their submachine guns not inside, but outside, which is not good ... but allowed the crew to quickly leave the car, if necessary

[Alexga]

"Bizon" is also not small, it can interfere with the work of the crew. And in general, if it came to small arms for a tanker, then things are bad. I looked through the information on the Internet, it turns out that it is not intended for mere mortals in the army. Yes, and PMovsky cartridge is somehow not very good for such a weapon. True, I shot at 50 meters from the APS, which seems to be quite normal, but to be honest, my favorite pistol is a PKM with a 250-round tape, equipped with an LPS-T 48 -LPS, etc. Father in the 50s served in Germany, they were armed with the officers of the command line were precisely the APS.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

"Bizon" is also not small, it can interfere with the work of the crew.

It can be worn on the chest and the store itself makes working with this PP inside a combat vehicle more convenient

Quote: AlexGa

And in general, if it came to small arms for a tanker, then things are bad.

I agree. The same "Bison" has a magazine for 64 rounds, which somehow increases the chance.

[Alexga]

The same "Bison" has a magazine for 64 rounds, which somehow increases the chance.

I absolutely agree with you!

[Nehist]

Bison !!! Moreover, complete !!! Even a dumped PM that has not been cleaned in the mud does not have so many refusals on the shooter. Here Bison becomes this,

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

In a bison with a screw magazine, in contrast to a carob, it does not bulge, does not cling to anything. The truth is a little harder.

[Alexga]

In such cases, this is more important than weight.

[sg7s]

With two !! Meters tried to get into a maple about forty centimeters thick .... Bagram. 88, it didn't work out, the battalion commander rushed, to me - to mug ... you, they say. and I have a shooting category ... 93 did it out of small things ... that I would not have hit it - there is just a spread ...

[Uncle Izya]

Why are these tests?
Only the thing was spoiled

[would]

AK-12 was subjected to a natural result, the burst of the barrel in the place of the forging. RPK-16 design differs slightly.

AEK will not be able to test it because it is made by the Degtyarevites, but the video is being shot by Kalashnikov.

[would]

Mistaken AK-12 tore in another place, but there is also a stress concentrator.

[Catfish]

And why all this? An old joke about a Japanese sawmill and a crowbar immediately comes to mind. Those. foolishly you can and ... you know what to break.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I also never understood these experiments ... After all, in war, in battle, this will never happen.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I also never understood these experiments ... After all, in war, in battle, this will never happen.

This is advertising!

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

... Indeed, in war, in battle, this will never happen.

So in battle, no one will carry a weapon behind a car in dust and dirt for an hour ... but there is such a thing as a "test", when you need to create the most unbearable conditions for the weapon in order to understand its capabilities. Then they brought the weapon to the brink ...

[Nehist]

Complete nonsense !!! You do not carry crap as a solid colonel !!!

[svp67]

Quote: Nehist

You do not carry crap as a solid colonel !!!

I am not going to help you in this matter, bear it yourself ...

[Archon]

In general, it's not too bad, because this is not a new weapon at all and now there should be something more modern.

[sabakina]

! They would have screwed the tape from "Maxim" to the APS!

[Catfish]

A good idea , You advise them, otherwise, poor fellows, they don't even know how to show off.

[paco.soto]

It was interesting to see! I even remembered the smell with a smile. He does not use hearing protection, now it is a must in Geyrope, smiled.

[Catfish]

Does not use hearing protection ...

But in a cool outfit, as if going to war ... Dudes, I could take shops from the table, and not pull out from the unloading.

[paco.soto]

But in a cool outfit, ©
I agree with you. But this is necessary in such reckless tests. Even his hands are not very protected, just in case.

[Catfish]

I'm not talking about protection, it's really necessary, I'm talking about the rest of the military camouflage outfit. In childhood, we also dabbled in all kinds of "pyrotechnics" on those found in the trenches, but no one dressed in full dress.

[paco.soto]

I'm not talking about protection, it's really necessary, I'm talking about the rest of the military camouflage outfit. In childhood, we also dabbled in all kinds of "pyrotechnics" found in the trenches, but no one dressed in full dress. smile ©
Neutral opinion: on the first part - well, he's supposedly a blogger and his own director. For teenagers, his video is very cool (for old people like me too)
According to the second, chewing his beard: in his old age, some amazing structure of memory appeared. So ya seriously can not understand how and why ya took and lived to see my years! He smiled.
Regards to you.

[Catfish]

So ya seriously can not understand how and why ya took and lived to see my years! He smiled.

I smiled too. Everything is the same, which is surprising.

[paco.soto]

smiled too. smile Everything is the same, which is surprising. ©
No, what's serious about you? Now I take it and analyze it very calmly and began not to "believe in the theory of probability Lla" for my years ya should have perished "a hundred thousand times", and now, thanks to my Son, I have already become a grandfather and I dream that Dachi will be here faster "to break down in Russian".
Thank you for your reply. Best regards to you. With smile

[Catfish]

... now, thanks to my Son, I have already become a grandfather ...

A happy man, and mine are not yet in a hurry to make me a grandfather, but I do not urge them on, the people are already grown up, they decide for themselves.
Good luck and health! Was glad to meet you.

[paco.soto]

mine are not yet in a hurry to make me a grandfather, but I don't push them, ©
I understood: "the old man will not peck out the eyes of the old man!" ™ ®
I apologize for the familiarity! Best regards to you. And everything that you want. Children now, unfortunately, really everything
more removed from the sweet nostalgic "house building of the USSR".
Regards to you!

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Good afternoon, no matter how funny it looks, but at the heart of it he has a bulletproof vest, which, in general, is necessary for such tests, since his trunks burst several times, well, you are right, for videos they often use excessive entourage

in the photo there are early videos, there he has a regular army 6B23

[Alexander Drobyshev]

What has Gayrope to do with it? These tests are done at the Kalashnikov concern, they tested the AK-74M, AK-12, AK-103 (already 2 times, but they could not break the barrel)

, RPD, RPK, PPSh-41 (most not killed)

[Trevis]

Sadiugi damn it!

[Avior]

The meaning of such destruction of weapons in situations that are unrealistic for real use is not clear
It's another matter, they would check the accuracy of the shortened version at intense fire, this is an important parameter and there is a lot of controversy about this, it would be interesting to see
As for the spit that the presenter said in the video, the holes were not counted, it is impossible to conclude how many bullets hit the car, how many not, the firing range is also not entirely clear.
To pierce two cans a little thicker than a can is not a big task for a cartridge, but even in this case they did not really show how much actually came out from that side, only in passing.
In general, not the video that would be viewed informatively, and that would remove any questions about the use of a shortened version in real conditions, unfortunately

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

From practical experience.
There are 6 assault rifles for 700-900 people at the test site, each with 6 rounds. Plus then completing the remainder of about 1000 rounds per barrel per day. 16 divisions + 2 regiments and 2 battalions. Approximately 6000 rounds per barrel. All is well, but then they took 4 more fresh zinc pieces to finish the zinc, since after 6-7 hundred Ksyusha began to spit.
The murder of the gun on the video is sickening, respectfully Kote!

[Nehist]

Gg two Ksenia 3500 rounds ate and did not choke.

[Biggi_2006]

Shoot boldly. The regular BC Ksenia will digest without consequences. And if you shoot wisely, you will digest everything that you are able to carry on yourself.

[ssergey1978]

Everything is expected, 5.45 and a short barrel cannot produce long-term continuous fire, in this regard 7.62x39 roll. But Ksenia is good for her goals.

[mat-vey]

Quote: ssergey1978

But Ksenia is good for her goals.

That's it!

[Undecim]

С On the one hand, this is such destructive fun, on the other, experiments have a very real practical meaning for both manufacturers and operators.
For manufacturers and operators, these exercises have no meaning at all.

[V1er]

This video is much more interesting.

[zenion]

There are also extremators!

[Suslin]

Something I don't understand this hype. There are instructions for using this weapon! If you have not read it, then there is nothing to break a comedy. Go teach materiel!

[Alexander Drobyshev]

In general, this video was a response to comments like "AKSU starts to spit at the feet after the second Magazine" and "Yes, we loaded ten magazines from the PKK out of it and at least henna", and this is not a matter of instructions, at the Kalashnikov concern there are no such fools

[Baron pardus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY8iNt064sE&list=LLXoVwXYzcQ7DeGZNFlslpCw&index=80

M4 from the Adams Arms company with a gas-piston system, by the way, MUCH cheaper than the XK416, before the barrel was bent to hell (exactly in the place where the barrel is thin on the M4, in the army, fasteners to the M203 go there for civilians to thin the barrel, but still many want "like in the army."

By the way, in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cr9e3N6HEw the cheap M4, even without the "nitride" barrel coating, withstood 440 shots at a continuous pace. Not bad. On the same channel, they also mocked the Kalash.

[sg7s]

From "simple" experience - not a weapon, not a machine gun, not a pistol - no way ... I shot (happened) from everything - from m-16 to tar and stinger, Boers, Mauser, and so on. I have not seen anything more useless ... The meaning is in this large volley with NO, no aiming ... TRASH ...

[sergo1914]

Brainy guys work in the Kalashnikov concern. It's stressful and frustrating at the same time.

[dgonni]

It's a pity for the car and so cool video. In general, we will know that for a long and happy life, a short man larger than three stores cannot be shot at a wild pace :)

[Biggi_2006]

In real life, no one will give you more than 4 stores. Therefore, what is shown is rather a demonstration of possibilities and a refutation of myths.

[Charik]

Demonstrate also on Aurus with armor

[Biggi_2006]

292 rounds of uninterrupted fire? The resource is closer to the machine gun, given that according to the NSD, light machine guns have the same limit without cooling. In real conditions, such ammunition is not something that is not shot from the AKS-74U with continuous fire, they are not even worn. An excellent refutation of the screams that the AKS-74U is overheating and starts to spit after the very first store. So Ksenia will shoot his 90-120 regular cartridges without any problems in any mode. And with competent shooting, in single or in bursts of no more than 5 shots each, it is virtually impossible to bring it to critical overheating.