Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass

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The head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Minsk Contact Group, Leonid Kravchuk, believes that with the participation of the United States, the settlement of the conflict in Donbas would become more effective. It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.

This idea was expressed by the first Ukrainian president yesterday on the air of the Ukraine 24 TV channel.



Kravchuk notes that the negotiations of the Trilateral Contact Group in the existing format are at an impasse. And to get out of it, in the opinion of the Ukrainian politician, can only be connected to the process of Washington.

Of course, now the Americans have no time for Ukraine, they have enough other problems. This is the coronavirus pandemic, a wave of protests and unrest in the country, and the upcoming presidential elections. But in the future, Kravchuk is considering involving the United States in the negotiation process. He believes that the involvement of the most powerful and influential country in the world in the negotiations should certainly accelerate the onset of peace in Donbas.

True, practice shows that the involvement of the United States in various conflicts around the globe most often worsened the situation, and did not solve the problem.

Earlier, the idea of ​​expanding the format of the Trilateral Contact Group was also expressed by the Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine for the reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories Aleksey Reznikov. He proposed to include the USA and Great Britain in its structure.
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    1. +27
      2 August 2020 11: 23
      One was removed, another senile was replaced. laughing Zero multiplied by any number will always be zero.
      1. +12
        2 August 2020 11: 39
        Quote: aszzz888
        One was removed, another senile was replaced.

        The only thought remained, to ask those who carried out an armed coup on the outskirts to bring the matter to an end.
        1. +9
          2 August 2020 11: 54
          Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass

          If you connect the USA, a short circuit will occur. Russia needs to talk to the United States separately "face to face," without outsiders - the stakes are too high to let third parties into this. And only then, if these negotiations happen with a positive effect, you can involve the rest of the actors!
          1. +4
            2 August 2020 12: 21
            If you connect the US, a short circuit will occur. Russia needs to talk to the US separately "face to face"
            So they are already connected laughing kravchuk their mouthpiece, where to connect? The slot is busy.
            1. +2
              2 August 2020 20: 50
              Yes, any erysipelas connected from chubatiya is connected from the Fashington regional committee. It has no options. And the Kuchma and Kravchuk, therefore, first of all, whine about the introduction of the United States, because for this they are being squeezed there.
          2. +2
            2 August 2020 14: 49
            Before proposing to "connect the USA", one should probably ask them if the USA wants to be "connected" somewhere there. Especially in all sorts of muddy sharashka, led by the hero of Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
            1. +1
              2 August 2020 21: 27
              They are already connected and wanted it from the start. I suppose you are waiting for the green light when there are no cars for a kilometer in either direction. Do you need official confirmation? Rhetorical question hi
              1. 0
                4 August 2020 19: 17
                I didn't understand what the green light was for, but personally I - yes, I'm waiting for the green one. In addition, I am driving through intersections to green, looking in both directions, slowing down and ready to apply the brake.
                1. 0
                  4 August 2020 20: 18
                  It is commendable that you are waiting for green, I am also waiting, but when there is 200% certainty that it is not necessary to wait for it, it makes no sense to wait. This metaphor, which you did not understand, I have brought just to compare your point of view with mine. I do not have to wait for officialdom about who is behind Ukraine, and I will not "ask" anyone, as many on this resource are 200% sure that the FSA is responsible for all negotiations with the outskirts.
                  1. 0
                    5 August 2020 16: 10
                    Something seems to me that you greatly exaggerate the role of the United States in these processes.
                    If they wanted - already everything that they need to achieve. They have resources, both material and power and political.
                    1. 0
                      5 August 2020 16: 23
                      It seems to you wink but I'm sure that you have greatly exaggerated the possibilities of stitching laughing
          3. +2
            2 August 2020 21: 48
            Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass

            If you connect the USA, a short circuit will occur. Russia needs to talk to the United States separately "face to face," b
            In theory, for the Belovezhskaya agreements, Kravchuk should be connected either to an electric chair or to a dropper with sulfuric acid ........
            1. 0
              4 August 2020 19: 20
              Quote: 72jora72
              need to be plugged in or to an electric chair

              Here's another chair for him. Will cost. Directly into a power outlet without any chairs.
        2. +4
          2 August 2020 12: 24
          Quote: figvam
          The only thought remained, to ask those who carried out an armed coup on the outskirts to bring the matter to an end.

          Suicide?

        3. +1
          2 August 2020 12: 56
          Yes, Ukrainians just ran out of American livers and they want to eat!
          1. +11
            2 August 2020 22: 54
            You won't be full of cookies ...
        4. +1
          2 August 2020 13: 53
          It is a good idea to involve the US in this, but it is premature !!! First, let Kravchuk involve Russia in the process of restoring the rights and freedoms of Indians and African Americans in the United States, and then further ...
      2. +15
        2 August 2020 11: 39
        Quote: aszzz888
        One was removed, another was replaced by a senile


        Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass

        First things first, let the dry brain fix Yes And myself, and mad "Ukrainian national".


        "Connector" laughing On such, we have a cunning Donetsk-Luhansk Switch...
        1. +5
          2 August 2020 11: 42
          Insurgent Today, 11:39
          0
          Quote: aszzz888
          One was removed, another was replaced by a senile


          Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass

          First things first,let the brain correct yes And myself, and the enraged "Ukrainian national". Laughing
          So it has long dried up and rotted there! And the "enraged" Ukrainian nation, I think you can guess what methods should be used. wink
          1. +9
            2 August 2020 11: 44
            Quote: aszzz888
            And the "enraged" Ukrainian nation, I think you can guess what methods should be used.

            Given all the indications, it seems that only lobotomy Yes , with a complete correction of the psyche recourse ...
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              1. +8
                2 August 2020 12: 29
                Quote: Observer2014
                Prilepin kept the defense far from you? laughing I really can't laughing wassat

                I do not know where exactly the "Prilepinsky" volunteer battalion was located, we were standing in the Avdiivsko-Yasinovatsky direction, covering Donetsk from the North.

                Count from the airport, to the very best, to the outskirts ...

                Laughter for no reason is a symptom if not a diagnosis. Yes
            2. -2
              2 August 2020 23: 17
              Quote: Insurgent
              For skakuas

              Quote: Insurgent
              And don't be rude to me ...

              two mutually exclusive things
              please do not be rude with rudeness for the interlocutor.
              Or the site rules allow you to use this word, as well as distortion of many others for rudeness?
        3. +12
          2 August 2020 22: 56
          Quote: Insurgent
          First things first, let the dry brain fix

          Do you think he has something left of the dried up brain?)))
      3. -1
        2 August 2020 13: 08
        Dumb, dumber, rebellion of the dumb.
      4. Maz
        0
        2 August 2020 14: 16
        it's like connecting Gorbachev or Khodorkovsky
    2. +1
      2 August 2020 11: 23
      Or maybe more aliens should be connected?
      1. +1
        2 August 2020 11: 25
        Poettizzaugla (Sergey) Today, 11:23
        0
        Or maybe more aliens should be connected?
        Yes, there and so that no clown is either a Natsik, or from Mars, jumping off without a parachute. wink laughing
        1. +2
          2 August 2020 11: 32
          It is clear what they are driving at. Deaf cleanup of Donbass according to the Croatian scenario.
          1. +1
            2 August 2020 11: 39
            Poettizzaugla (Sergey) Today, 11:32
            +1
            It is clear what they are driving at. Deaf cleanup of Donbass according to the Croatian scenario.
            This is how they sleep and see this scenario. In no case should they allow such a development of events. I suppose in the LDNR and Russia there is someone to think about it.
            1. 0
              2 August 2020 11: 41
              I hope there are people like that. The enemies are already in our hallway.
              1. -3
                2 August 2020 12: 14
                Quote: Poetiszaugla
                I hope there are people like that. The enemies are already in our hallway.

                Yes, the Kremlin does not care about the enemies, especially since they are "partners and friends." The fifth year Donbass is an object of bargaining.
      2. -1
        2 August 2020 14: 10
        Yes, it is problematic, but the penguins of Madagascar are possible.
    3. +5
      2 August 2020 11: 25
      for this creature ... the stake is crying, for him and for Shushkevich, the third has already gone to Hell, so that the devils would give him a hotter frying pan ...
    4. +8
      2 August 2020 11: 28
      It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.
      An old senile man, bragging about the collapse of the USSR, got out, cast a dull, old eye over the playground and decided that he could not cope without the Americans. Kravchuk only has a little left - to force Merkel and Macron to do as he wants, since Russian representatives will not even talk to him on this topic. The tactics of the Ukrainians are clear - to chatter dancing the hopak behind their backs and at the same time not doing anything, and then how lucky.
      1. 0
        2 August 2020 14: 08
        You forgot to add that he is a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, head of the ideological department ... There were good ideologists in the Communist Party ... I wonder if he was already sitting on the pot, became a Judas and a traitor, how can you fight yourself and your cause all your life? Who is he ? No such word has been invented for him yet ...
    5. BAI
      +5
      2 August 2020 11: 30
      It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.

      In principle, he is right. The Americans have muddied everything in Ukraine, they are in command of Ukraine - it is impossible without them. All the same, Ukraine will do as the US orders.
      The United States should be included in the process, and Ukraine should be excluded. Negotiators are not needed.
      1. +1
        2 August 2020 11: 34
        Quote: BAI
        In principle, he is right. The Americans have muddied everything in Ukraine, they are in command of Ukraine - it is impossible without them. All the same, Ukraine will do as the US orders.

        Yes! And what a wonderful excuse for Ze and Co! This is not me, these are our partner leaders! And how the Natsiks will "think". It is possible to act, but who will pay them money? So it will not do without the United States.
        1. -1
          2 August 2020 11: 45
          Fidget (Elena) Today, 11: 34
          +1
          Quote: BAI
          In principle, he is right. The Americans have muddied everything in Ukraine, they are in command of Ukraine - it is impossible without them. All the same, Ukraine will do as the US orders.

          Yes! And what a wonderful excuse will be for Ze and Co! This is not me, these are our partner leaders!
          Helen, hi . Translate arrows on the other / others it is the swan song of the Ukronazis. And if they also pay extra at the same time, in extreme cases to steal, then in general there will be a gilded Through the Looking Glass! bully
      2. +6
        2 August 2020 12: 06
        Quote: BAI
        The United States should be included in the process, and Ukraine should be excluded. Negotiators are not needed

        The fact of the matter is that the United States is always making a mess, and it is up to others to disentangle and rake the guano after them. So the United States, on the contrary, should be excluded from all processes, then maybe things will go smoothly and go. Moreover, what can be negotiated with a party that does not keep its word at all. I generally keep quiet about Ukraine, nobody actually asks her opinions, they decide for her. The "nezalezhniki" were domaydanis, grabbed themselves "independence".
        1. 0
          2 August 2020 20: 39
          Quote: orionvitt
          The United States is always making a mess, and it is up to others to disentangle and rake the guano after them.

          And they are now up to "the country of the enraged by-ydla"? Over 150 people died from the virus there, and this is not the end. And the pre-election "control room" is in full swing.
          And I regard the replacement of one talking head with another as a procrastination with a long-term calculation for the coming to power in the United States of the people they need.
      3. +12
        2 August 2020 22: 59
        I agree with you. Nothing is done in Ukraine without the Americans.
    6. +2
      2 August 2020 11: 31
      Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in the negotiations on the Donbass.

      And also: Gorbachev, Shushkevich and, from the other world - Yeltsin.
      And at the head - Bill Clinton.
      It already happened - Kravchuk plays the guitar, and Yeltsin is drunkenly dancing happily fool
    7. +1
      2 August 2020 11: 32
      We also need to connect the Chinese. Without them, nothing will come of it. tongue
      1. 0
        2 August 2020 12: 42
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        We also need to connect the Chinese. Without them, nothing will come of it. tongue

        China should not be exposed. They are quietly buying up everything they can in Ukraine.
        https://nk.org.ua/ekonomika/kitay-tihoy-sapoy-skupaet-ukrainu-87368
        1. +2
          2 August 2020 12: 44
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          China should not be exposed. They are quietly buying everything they can in Ukraine

          Oh, they shouldn't do it. BHA is not sure of anything. They will take this property, and the debts will not be paid.
          1. +2
            2 August 2020 12: 50
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            China should not be exposed. They are quietly buying everything they can in Ukraine

            Oh, they shouldn't do it. BHA is not sure of anything. They will take this property, and the debts will not be paid.

            Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the Chinese are acting in Ukraine, including in the interests of Russia. The main thing is not to fall into the hands of "partners".
          2. +3
            2 August 2020 20: 46
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            They will take this property, and the debts will not be paid.

            China is not a kind and compassionate Russia. Those will pull their own from the throat through the opposite side. In the 13th year, China paid the Chubaks money to buy grain, but the Chubaks, out of habit, decided to throw it. I will not "spread my mind along the tree", I will say briefly - it was not possible! And Russia is still being dragged around the courts because of 3 billion ...
    8. +3
      2 August 2020 11: 40
      It seems to me that first of all, representatives of the DPR and LPR need to be involved there. and not fake personalities from Kiev. Then the case may move forward.
      A US connection. yes even Mars, nothing but demagoguery will add.
    9. +6
      2 August 2020 11: 42
      USA? To plug?! Danunafig! I would exclude Ukraine from the negotiations, completely exclude it, to the border with Hungary and Romanians laughing
    10. +1
      2 August 2020 11: 44
      The Americans, by the way, very much welcomed the federalization of Ukraine and do not see anything bad here, because they themselves live like that.
      1. +7
        2 August 2020 11: 49
        Quote: Zaurbek
        The Americans, by the way, very much welcomed the federalization of Ukraine and do not see anything bad here, because they themselves live like that.

        Oh, oh, oh ... Just don't say that the United States strongly suggested that the Maydauns go along the path of federalization, that is, it would agree to our initial (before the war) demands ... But they disobeyed the Americans, and did it their own way ...

        Do you yourself believe in what you wrote?
      2. 0
        2 August 2020 11: 59
        It is in words.
        But in reality, they are well aware that in this case, the first thing Ukraine will fall apart into East and West, and the second - and there and there the South will separate.
        And it will become more difficult to plunder, and it will not be possible to steal your old army junk at an exorbitant price on such a scale.
        1. -1
          2 August 2020 12: 02
          Here, how to look ... it may be cheaper
      3. 0
        2 August 2020 12: 15
        If the Americans see nothing wrong with something, it is alarming. The events of the last decades have taught us the iron rule. If America praises something, then we must boldly go into denial, and if it scolds, then there is a good deal, we need to do it. In addition, I give my hand to cut off, that if the statesmen are engaged in the federalization of Ukraine, according to their own recipes, then another back seat will turn out. According to the principle "we wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
        nothing bad because they themselves live like that.
        Not true. How they live and how they allow others to live, given the common declared "values", these are two very big differences. "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull."
    11. +1
      2 August 2020 11: 48
      It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.
      I agree, only then France, Germany and Ukraine should be removed from the solution of this issue, why do we need intermediaries if the "Big White Boss" himself decided to come out of the shadows
      1. +2
        2 August 2020 16: 11
        It looks like everything is going to this ...
    12. 0
      2 August 2020 11: 48
      For productivity in love and negotiations, strength is needed, and what this one can conceive there. He is older than Kuchma, this is some kind of parade of over-aged impotent.
    13. +1
      2 August 2020 11: 55
      Since Ukraine is under the external control of the Americans, it makes no sense to involve the Americans. They are already connected through Ukraine.
      In the SBU building, an entire floor is occupied by the CIA.
      ... Minsk-2, Minsk-2 ... Minsk At ... Twoaaa ... At ... Two
      Do you smell ....? And the fingers, here they are ...
      1. +2
        2 August 2020 16: 10
        Naturally, without their go-ahead, Ukraine does nothing ...
        1. 0
          2 August 2020 17: 32
          Victor, greetings, two representatives from the United States (Ukraine and the United States) in the contact group is already too much. And if you take the still occupied Germany, then already three ... It will be too much ...
          1. 0
            2 August 2020 18: 38
            Good time Ruslan! hi

            The United States and Russia will still negotiate, the rest of the extras ...
    14. +2
      2 August 2020 12: 01
      Connect the Yankees to the negotiations, only to say the phrase from the immortal movie:

      - Well, get out of here!
      - Exactly. Kanai. And let him channel from here, otherwise I'll kick his horns, tear his mouth, gouge out the blinkers! You will work for medicines all your life !!! Sausage, sausage, radish, Nebuchadnezzar! Rooster Hamburg !!!

      movie "Gentlemen of Fortune"
    15. +3
      2 August 2020 12: 03
      Figasebe, Kravchuk near Minsk is also going to destroy the United States ... We must stop him!
    16. +1
      2 August 2020 12: 08
      Translating into the language of an ordinary person: he wants to sell the United States or the Britons assets that do not belong to him in Donbas. It's stupid to have money as a pad.
      1. 0
        2 August 2020 12: 17
        Izotovp (Pavel) Today, 12:08
        0
        Translating into the language of an ordinary person: he wants to sell the United States or the Britons assets that do not belong to him in Donbas. It's stupid to have money as a pad.
        Yes. Here the other day on TV at "60 min." he is already probing us, Russia, to dissolve a few tens of trillion. greens for the mines in which there were supposed to be missiles. Simple, damn it, like laundry soap! wink So let him exercise better with the Merikatos on this issue, he will breed his curators for loot. laughing
    17. 0
      2 August 2020 12: 10
      You never know what he wants.
      Not the fact that the Americans will want to get in.
    18. +1
      2 August 2020 12: 16
      It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.

      Found oil in Ukraine? what Otherwise, why would amers have these problems?
      They are quite happy with this situation. Selling loans and written off equipment for the laws adopted in their favor, at the same time arranging minor hemorrhoids in Russia. And so it was intended. Why change something? negative
    19. +2
      2 August 2020 12: 18
      Maybe it's better to disconnect Ukraine from negotiations on Donbass? And then some kind of negotiations with a non-existent country ... A farce of some kind.
      1. 0
        2 August 2020 12: 38
        Stock Stroybat (Ivan) Today, 12: 18
        +2
        Maybe it's better to disconnect Ukraine from negotiations on Donbass? And then some kind of negotiations with a non-existent country ... A farce of some kind.
        What? This is something! wink
      2. +1
        2 August 2020 12: 50
        As far as I understand, Donbass is capitalized, and Ukraine is capitalized not because of ignorance of spelling. Greetings from Donetsk.
        1. -1
          2 August 2020 13: 05
          People live in Donbass, but in Ukraine the fascists are ruling the ball. Respectfully and letter.
          1. -2
            2 August 2020 23: 22
            Quote: Stroibat stock
            People live in Donbass, but in Ukraine the fascists are ruling the ball. Respectfully and letter.

            well, you can also change it towards the Russian Federation. However, countries are capitalized. Regardless of sympathy. Emotions are just emotions. And the mind requires correctness.
            Or are there some emotional teenagers = not reasonable people?
    20. -1
      2 August 2020 12: 42
      Something with Kravchuk’s history is a little tough. If the United States gets involved in the negotiation process, everything for Ukraine will end miserably. With a mess and a lot of Ukrainian blood. I always remember the scene with Ostap Bender: the West will help us! angry
    21. +2
      2 August 2020 12: 43
      I would like to connect the "LM" trademark to 6000 volts. I studied in the Soviet Union, worked in a mine, I can. The USA on "lyubasik" needs to be connected. Where is "no crap". They have freed themselves, let them settle. I can endlessly look at the "star-striped" flags meeting "Cargo200" from Donbass. And there were precedents. Small "salamchik" Canada. Estland and other limitrophes. Whoever comes to us with a sword will receive "tabla".
      1. +3
        2 August 2020 12: 49
        Quote: German Titov
        I would like to connect the "LM" trademark to 6000 volts. I studied in the Union, worked in a mine, I can.

        From KRUV Yes ("cells"), earth!
    22. +1
      2 August 2020 12: 57
      "...Kravchuk wants to involve the United States in negotiations on Donbass..."
      ======
      Spin around like .... spit in a frying pan. Everyone is looking for something to come up with so as not to fulfill the Minsk agreements signed by them! am
    23. Ham
      +2
      2 August 2020 13: 16
      all the more, this issue will never be resolved with the Americans ...
      KravChuk is the brother of KravGek ...
    24. +1
      2 August 2020 13: 41
      An old, smelly, disgusting, crazy rat. Let's also give Verka Serduchka. Will be in tune with the current Ukrainian government.
    25. wow
      +1
      2 August 2020 14: 17
      Yeah - the USA, small Britain, as well as Estonia and Lithuania. And you can also add Poland.
    26. +2
      2 August 2020 14: 20
      And this is the former 1st Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine! Famously he "changed the suit"! negative
      1. DPN
        -2
        2 August 2020 15: 39
        We also have almost all the exes, and why?
        1. 0
          2 August 2020 16: 40
          And really ALL are also former 1st secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine ?! lol
      2. +1
        2 August 2020 16: 38
        I don't even want to talk about this misery.
        1. +1
          2 August 2020 16: 42
          "Absolutely accurate definition!" good drinks
    27. DPN
      +1
      2 August 2020 15: 37
      ... It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans. Kravchuk is probably right, he has experience in the collapse of the USSR with the assistance of the United States. He still hopes for this today.
      1. +1
        2 August 2020 16: 08
        That is to say, put an end to Ukraine faster ...
    28. +1
      2 August 2020 15: 58
      These will help with negotiations. Will put out the fire with a gasoline tank
    29. +1
      2 August 2020 16: 07
      Leonid Kravchuk believes that with the participation of the United States, the settlement of the conflict in Donbas would become more effective. It is almost impossible to resolve this issue without the Americans.


      Doesn't he know that?

      True, practice shows that the involvement of the United States in various conflicts around the globe most often worsened the situation, and did not solve the problem.
    30. 0
      2 August 2020 18: 14
      The faithful Bandera communist crawled on his knees to his masters from the Washington Reich Chancellery))))
    31. 0
      2 August 2020 19: 34
      Great Britain and the United States want to join the Minsk Group in order to be able to bring the American contingent to Dombass under the guise of peacekeepers. To date, a well-grounded contingent of peacekeepers can only be from France, Germany, and Russia. Kiev is not satisfied with the policy dictated by these states. They talked about the presence of the United States from the very beginning of the Minsk format.
      Well, Lukashenka probably decided to play ahead of the curve, the arrest of 33 people just plays into his hands:
      - Will push the Americans and the British - he is in trend.
      - They won't push through - there will be an investigation that will acquit those arrested. Lukashenka may even publicly apologize.
    32. +1
      2 August 2020 20: 39
      The old Bandera henchman is ready to lick and shit Russia to his eternal masters at any post.
    33. +1
      2 August 2020 21: 07
      Connect already this old nit to a constant pressure pepper enema ...
    34. 0
      3 August 2020 05: 07
      "Experience" of the collapse is -hana negotiations !!!
    35. 0
      3 August 2020 13: 56
      If the representatives of the Russian Federation enter into negotiations with Kravchuk, this will be a sign.
    36. 0
      3 August 2020 14: 31
      One verbiage replaced the other. And the promotion of the old “dynamo” began anew with renewed vigor! negative

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