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Ukrainian factories have made a final decision: the Tirex tank will not be produced

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Ukraine refused to create a tank, which was supposedly to surpass the Russian T-14 Armata in its parameters. As it turned out, this technique is more dangerous for itself and its crew than for the enemy. There was confirmation that the Ukrainian factories finally refused to implement the "development" of "Azov" (* an extremist organization banned in Russia).


For the first time information about the project of creating a new Ukrainian tank "Tirex" became known to the general public in 2016, when several Ukrainian media outlets solemnly reported about it.

In Kiev, they said that this "miracle of technology" will change all ideas about tank building, making a real revolution in this industry.


The basis for the new tank was to be the Soviet T-64. Like the Russian Armata, the new tank was supposed to be equipped with an uninhabited turret. They even thought to go further and consider the possibility of creating an unmanned version of this armored vehicle.

As a result, not even a prototype was created, and the project remained on paper. The reason was a whole complex of gross mistakes made in the development of a combat vehicle. At the same time, Azov * continued to assert that the project would be finalized and put into production.

The 39-ton tank was supposed to fire high-powered shells from a 125 mm cannon. At the same time, as it turned out, problems with the stability of this armored vehicle could arise even when firing from a spot, not to mention firing on the move. Simple calculations, as it turns out, showed a possible rupture of the tank barrel when fired again (a short time after the first) in battle. The reason - in the steel grade, which was supposed to be used for high-energy ammunition.

Firing in motion would also lead to excessive loads on the rear of the turret and the transfer of impulse to the ammunition, which could detonate.

The design of the tower also raised questions. If it was hit from behind by a shell, even tangentially, it could come off.

And then in Ukraine they decided that they did not need such a tank yet. Now the Ukrainian factories have put an end to the question of the possible production of "Tirex": the tank will not be produced.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 2 August 2020 09: 42 New
    13
    The ruin was not built to create anything, but to destroy.
    In particular, original technical ideas and projects in the military-industrial complex.
    The West does not need competitors.
    We need hawalniks.
    1. Finches
      Finches 2 August 2020 09: 44 New
      +4
      "Tirex" - this is not the monster of the Ukrainian tank building, which looks like an inverted poultry? laughing
      1. zenion
        zenion 2 August 2020 19: 20 New
        0
        And where are four hundred-watt speakers for quad music. They will participate in the battle without the hopak. The tank still has to, at least a little, but sit down. As far as it is clear, the crew will run after the tank, they will be carried in baby carriages, or they have to push the tank. I thought and understood - the tankers would be midgets.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 2 August 2020 09: 48 New
      +5
      I remember they had an epic when the crazy ideas of children were extolled as a breakthrough in the development of weapons. The whole Ukraine discussed.
      1. uralant
        uralant 2 August 2020 13: 54 New
        +3
        So this little boy "Azov" and took to himself as the chief designer, since Kharkov got out of him.
      2. major147
        major147 2 August 2020 20: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        I remember they had an epic when the crazy ideas of children were extolled as a breakthrough in the development of weapons. The whole Ukraine discussed.

        As the saying goes: "All the steam went into the whistle!" (from)
    3. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 2 August 2020 09: 59 New
      12
      "In Kiev, they said that this" miracle of technology "will turn all ideas about tank building, making a real revolution in this industry."
      -so ... there won't be a movie ?? Is the film out of the studio?)
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 2 August 2020 15: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        -so ... there won't be a movie ?? Is the film out of the studio?)

        Some cartoons from ukraYna soap. And we drove to Putin, de cartoons show .. ...
    4. halpat
      halpat 2 August 2020 12: 12 New
      +2
      And then in Ukraine they decided that they did not need such a tank yet. Now the Ukrainian factories have put an end to the question of the possible production of "Tirex": the tank will not be produced.

      tse golimaya zrada !!
      What is the solution to the problem?
      put it in a smitty tank and pour green paint!
      laughing
      "By a simple way"
      laughing
      1. zenion
        zenion 2 August 2020 18: 01 New
        +1
        It's funny to you, but the people were afraid of him. This Tirex chased goats through the gardens. They didn't feed him and he was always hungry. Something reminds me of how Ilya grabbed and dragged the three-headed monster to Kiev and locked it in the basement. I went to the prince and reported. The prince became interested and decided to look at the monster. It’s okay, he said. And what does this animal eat, the prince asked Ilyusha? Exclusively virgins. Prince, sorry for the little animal, because he will die of hunger. So the Tirex threw away his hooves, because they did not feed, and there are no goats in Kiev.
        1. major147
          major147 2 August 2020 20: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: zenion
          and there are no goats in Kiev.

          In fact, "Maidan Nezalezhnosti" was previously called "Goat Swamp" yes
          This is the tendency, first goats and their milk from "vna" disappeared, then pigs with lard .... Who is next? recourse
    5. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 2 August 2020 13: 10 New
      +2
      I looked at the video, they are already discussing there when the columns of Tirexes will go to the Kremlin lol
    6. avg
      avg 3 August 2020 15: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Livonetc
      The ruin was not built to create anything, but to destroy.
      In particular, original technical ideas and projects in the military-industrial complex.

      All the same, as I read "the factories refused", my soul felt better. Otherwise, they could have put Hammer mortars on Tirex. That beast would come out. belay Yes, I'm ashamed to ask how many factories have refused, a lot, is it really all?
  2. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 2 August 2020 09: 45 New
    +5
    Yes, throw the dust in your eyes. No one there made any calculations and did not draw anything. From the hand they drew their dreams by force. Incomprehensible discussions of fantasies of incomprehensible persons about tanks.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 2 August 2020 09: 58 New
      +9
      In vain they refused the development of Rostik Abramov, it was a fatal mistake



      laughing
      1. zenion
        zenion 2 August 2020 18: 08 New
        +2
        Fatalistic superfatal hyperfatal fatalistic error. These tanks are sold in the children's world. Already finished, you only need to increase it 300 times and make it from a very strong plastic. It can then be transported by dogs. This is great. Dogs will cut off enemy infantry from enemy tanks, and those sitting in tanks will throw rakes under the tracks of enemy tanks. They will run into a rake and a rake will kill hostile tanks with a blow to the forehead, breaking them in half.
    2. svp67
      svp67 2 August 2020 10: 43 New
      -3
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      .No one there made any calculations and did not draw anything. They drew their dreams by hand.

      If in the case of "Terex", then there were drawings, and computer and, accordingly, calculations, since one of the former designers from the Malyshev plant was behind its development ...

      1. KCA
        KCA 2 August 2020 10: 55 New
        +6
        A designer cannot be engaged in the development of a tank, he is the chief designer, but he develops a design bureau, there are much more than 100 people, then a mockup department and a couple of hundred technologists, I don't even talk about the number of workers, and I can't even count all the subcontractors
        1. svp67
          svp67 2 August 2020 11: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: KCA
          A tank designer cannot be engaged in

          So he was not alone, there he still had a "handful" of "young, patriotic enthusiasts"
          Quote: KCA
          from the layout department and a couple of hundred technologists, I don't even talk about the number of workers, and I can't even count all the subcontractors

          This is the whole problem, nobody needs other people's projects ... they would shove their own, but in this case, the alteration of the T-64 tank is quite significant and expensive, the question is, who will pay for all this?
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 2 August 2020 11: 22 New
            -1
            Let's be frank. But the "DRAWINGS" are "cool" yes And who drew them in tanks understands Now it is clear that I will hit the jackpot of "people's love" laughing But this project would be viable. yes Take these drawings to a really specialist and he will say the same thing.
            1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
              Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 August 2020 19: 29 New
              0
              No respected, not viable this project, not to cram such a new tank into the old body of the T-64, even if they were recruiting a crew of Lilliputians, the hull both in width and in length would have to be increased, but it would not be t- 64, ask a really specialist, he will confirm!
            2. Urs
              Urs 2 August 2020 23: 38 New
              +2
              These drawings are 20 years old, and indeed this is a conceptual development of the Kharkov design bureau, at that time still very cheerful and full of ideas and youthful enthusiasm fellow
              There were two options for the Nizhny Tagil "Oryol" and this project, also a very similar project of the plant named after Kirov, there were even rumors that Petersburgers and Kharkovites worked in close contact, with one difference the St. we did not have overall capacity, of course they were not allowed over the hill behind them stop.With the necessary motors, then the question arose with the engines
              with the required dimensions and a power of more than 1500hp, the version with an X-shaped diesel engine was the sweetest, but the work on it, which began in the mid-80s, was very sickly and hard.
              I myself saw an engineer using this motor in Chelyabinsk, but this is not the same topic.
              So the Ukrainian brothers are again bragging about the past from the USSR, this is not theirs. IT IS OURS.
        2. halpat
          halpat 2 August 2020 15: 05 New
          -1
          Quote: KCA
          A designer cannot be engaged in the development of a tank, he is the chief designer, but he develops a design bureau, there are much more than 100 people, then a mockup department and a couple of hundred technologists, I don't even talk about the number of workers, and I can't even count all the subcontractors

          The 404 can!
          Well ... exactly until the moment when you need to show something more substantial than a computer clip and loud, aggressive and stupid statements.
      2. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 2 August 2020 11: 26 New
        0
        Aha drawings, and the ejector in the unguided tower calculated the same? A picture on a computer is not a blueprint.
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        2. svp67
          svp67 2 August 2020 11: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          Aha drawings, and the ejector in the unguided tower calculated the same?

          Are you familiar with the design of the T-64? If so, then you should see what is taken from him as much as possible. I do not exclude that in this tank there was an opportunity, in case of failure of the automation, to move the gunner and commander to the tower. For some reason, you were not surprised by the armored shields around the tower hatch and the ZPU
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          A picture on a computer is not a blueprint.

          They released a whole video about this project, there is a moment when a part of the drawing is visible on the monitor ...
          1. Katanikotael
            Katanikotael 2 August 2020 17: 34 New
            +1
            The fact that from 64 they took the most is understandable, it is not clear how an armored capsule was shoved there for three
            1. svp67
              svp67 2 August 2020 17: 37 New
              0
              Quote: Katanikotael
              The fact that from 64 they took the most is understandable, it is not clear how an armored capsule was shoved there for three

              Instead of storage tank and battery pack
              1. Katanikotael
                Katanikotael 2 August 2020 17: 43 New
                +1
                they do not take up so much space, the capsule in the same T-14 is quite voluminous due to all the equipment inside, but still cramped.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 2 August 2020 17: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Katanikotael
                  they do not take up so much space,.

                  Yes, just two more crew members can be planted
                  Quote: Katanikotael
                  but still closely

                  In crowded but not mad
                2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                  Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 August 2020 19: 35 New
                  0
                  See the root good
            2. zenion
              zenion 2 August 2020 18: 14 New
              -1
              Armored capsule - instead of a motor. There three strong Cossacks will drive, and dogs will pull. In the same place, the tracks move on children's bicycle wheels, which means the tank will turn out to be light. The trouble is that when it runs out of ammunition, it can be blown away by the wind, the designer did not think about it. And I thought for a whole second and immediately realized that you need to put a bag of sand on the end of the barrel, and then the volatility will decrease. Then it will be possible to tie him to a gilyak, or to hammer a stake, as for a goat. Let him fly around the stake, the main thing is that he does not run away.
          2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 August 2020 19: 33 New
            0
            "if the automation fails, the gunner and commander are moved to the turret."

            Forgive me, but did you see this tower? the crew would have to be the size of an inch to move there, and apparently by teleportation, no other way!
      3. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 2 August 2020 12: 14 New
        +3
        The tank in the diagram and the tank in the video are completely different designs. In this (as shown in the diagram) the ammo rack is standard, while the one in the video has the ammo rack behind the turret, etc.
        Which one is Terex?
        1. svp67
          svp67 2 August 2020 12: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Bad_gr
          The tank in the diagram and the tank in the video are completely different designs.

          Yes, it's a fact. There is generally a different project, with a front engine and a turret-mounted MZ ... Maybe different options, as we had with Armata before ... I can't say.
          Although .. "Tirex" is in the picture, and in the video already "Gaydamak"
      4. loft79
        loft79 2 August 2020 17: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        If in the case of "Tereks", then there were drawings, and computer and, accordingly, calculations

        Greetings. Why "Correspondingly calculations". You can just model 3D, and there + - a centimeter you don't have to look at. T-64 and so the tank of "extreme characteristics" there such modernization will not go. hi
        1. svp67
          svp67 2 August 2020 17: 09 New
          0
          hi
          Quote: loft79
          T-64 and so the tank of "extreme characteristics" there such modernization will not go.

          They changed the chassis there, adding a seventh roller, that is, the "limit" of characteristics became higher
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 August 2020 19: 40 New
            0
            Maybe in some other project they changed the chassis?
            Tirex, it seems, is on the old 6 roller chassis!
          2. loft79
            loft79 2 August 2020 23: 26 New
            0
            Well, that means it's not 64. Then everything must be recounted.
        2. zenion
          zenion 2 August 2020 18: 17 New
          -1
          And it can be renamed. He will not know that he is 64, but will think that he is 34, and there was a base for modernization there. Instead of a heavy tower, you can throw a bath tank and go backwards.
  3. Poetry
    Poetry 2 August 2020 09: 47 New
    -1
    This is what is called: DEGRADATION.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 August 2020 09: 48 New
    -3
    Strange presentation of information.
    I try to closely follow the news of BTWT in the world.
    About "Tirex" ONLY media and reported in due time. Moreover, it was just an information surge. There was no question of mass construction at the PLANTS. And the banned "Azov" only had a workshop in the long-destroyed "atek" plant, which once produced excavators.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 2 August 2020 09: 59 New
      +4
      By the way, where did this miracle "breakthrough in the world production of infantry fighting vehicles go, which used video cameras from Chinese front doors to apartments for all-round cameras?" bully
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 2 August 2020 10: 04 New
        -4
        If I am not mistaken, this miracle - a wunder - waffle was seized by the Ministry of Internal Affairs from the specified plant and its trace was lost. Only not an infantry fighting vehicle, but a tank for battles in the city. It seems on the T - 64 chassis.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 2 August 2020 10: 11 New
          +1
          Clearly Avakov passed on metal.
    2. zenion
      zenion 2 August 2020 18: 22 New
      -2
      You read something wrong. A large number of them were made in a week, but even more fled and got to the island, attacked the Americans there. So they threw off a nuclear volcano on the island, it was shown in the movie.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 August 2020 10: 08 New
    -1
    Let the start of the mass production of the Tirex2 tank, a distinctive feature of which is the use of containers for garbage as the basis for the hull, a kind of tank-transformer lol
  6. Eldorado
    Eldorado 2 August 2020 10: 15 New
    0
    Whatever the child would entertain ...
  7. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 2 August 2020 10: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Strange presentation of information.
    I try to closely follow the news of BTWT in the world.
    About "Tirex" ONLY media and reported in due time. Moreover, it was just an information surge. There was no question of mass construction at the PLANTS. And the banned "Azov" only had a workshop in the long-destroyed "atek" plant, which once produced excavators.

    It was a media duck
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 2 August 2020 21: 19 New
      +1
      So the discussed article is a duck: "Ukrainian factories have made a decision." How is it. The factories did not receive the corresponding government order and funding for it. But the "factories" themselves do not solve anything like that. No money has been allocated.
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 2 August 2020 10: 32 New
    -1
    The opinion of the amateur.
    Fencing MBT from scratch is a little guts. Plus "it must be NATO-style" ....
    Who does the trunks for sim projects? Tower chase?
    Do Malyshevites hammer trunks?
    If I were blocking a tank, I would start to whisper 88mm. German trunks. From here I would have danced.
  9. Clear
    Clear 2 August 2020 10: 32 New
    +5
    Ukrainian factories have made a final decision: the Tirex tank will not be produced

    It turns out that the brains of the leadership of the factories are working, in contrast to the leaders of the country.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 2 August 2020 12: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: Clear
      It turns out that the brains of the leadership of the factories are working, in contrast to the leaders of the country.

      The fact of the matter is that in Ukraine, not only the mythical "Tirex", but soon nothing at all will be produced. You don't need a lot of brains here. Rather, in order to ruin everything, they are not needed at all.
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 August 2020 16: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: orionvitt
        The fact of the matter is that in Ukraine, not only the mythical "Tirex", but soon nothing at all will be produced.

        Vitaly, they just have a cool name. Walking, Tirex (Tyrannosaurus) is not established who he was, an active predator or is it a scavenger?
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 2 August 2020 18: 16 New
          0
          If you take the movie, then the tirex was a predator, but zoologists are more inclined to think that it was a scavenger. Let's stick to a scientific point of view.
    2. zenion
      zenion 2 August 2020 18: 25 New
      0
      They won't do anything without me. Only I know how to do it, but I have no interest. Both palms itch, but nemae interest!
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 August 2020 21: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: zenion
        Both palms itch ...

        It happens
  10. gallop
    gallop 2 August 2020 10: 36 New
    +1
    Hmm, uninhabited. And why, then, in the "uninhabited" tower in the video at 5.50, they insert the gunner's sights with foreheads and eyepieces, and at 6.30, the commander's sight also with a forehead and an eyecup on the eyepiece, then stick the turret rotation mechanism with the flywheel handle? Whose eyes will look into the scope, whose hands are going to turn the turret turn wheel? In short, this is some kind of profanity video or just a computer cartoon.
  11. Karaul73
    Karaul73 2 August 2020 11: 03 New
    -2
    The Modeler's Club for Middle School Children has been closed. Contributions paid will not be refunded. Thank you for understanding.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 August 2020 11: 04 New
    -1
    As it turned out, this technique is more dangerous for itself and its crew than for the enemy.
    "And the third, the bastard in his bullets!" (from) laughing
  13. Avior
    Avior 2 August 2020 11: 15 New
    +2
    ... There was confirmation that the Ukrainian factories finally refused to implement "development"

    No matter how I read the article, I did not find any confirmation that some factories were going to implement, and no confirmation that they refused. What kind of factories, what kind of confirmation?
    All the same, VO is a specialized resource, one could write an article more seriously.
  14. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 2 August 2020 11: 25 New
    -1
    The money wasted, plundered, painted a picture, now you can come up with another sawing project.
  15. awdrgy
    awdrgy 2 August 2020 11: 32 New
    -1
    But the name was formidable
  16. vladimych
    vladimych 2 August 2020 11: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: Senka Naughty
    In vain they refused the development of Rostik Abramov, it was a fatal mistake



    laughing

    The faces of the engineers, this is something.
  17. Sergey Obraztsov
    Sergey Obraztsov 2 August 2020 11: 37 New
    0
    "Tank weighing 39 tons"
    Of course, I am never a specialist, but it seems to me that it is no longer possible to create a combat vehicle with relevant and even more promising protection within a given mass ...
  18. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 2 August 2020 11: 42 New
    -1
    Nobody will make a new tank with the needs for Ukrainian items. The Swedes, Swiss, Finns, Poles showed it. Although there are all the technical possibilities for this. Plus, in Eastern Europe, stocks of different T72 versions have not yet run out (there are also T90 ++ levels). And they will be happy to sell them, for inexpensive, to Ukraine.
  19. Constanty
    Constanty 2 August 2020 11: 55 New
    +1
    Tirex is a fight.
    Ukraine has many real tank designs, developed back in the USSR, which could serve as a starting point for a new generation of tanks. For example, my favorite "Rebel" - vol. 490A, or "Nota".

    The problem is that Ukraine has completely lost the ability to build new tanks, even Oplot, so this is a purely academic question.
  20. 5-9
    5-9 2 August 2020 12: 02 New
    -2
    And someone without a lethal dose of alcohol or drugs in their blood thought otherwise?
    But thanks, this shushpanzer amused us well ...
  21. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 2 August 2020 12: 17 New
    -2
    Lived, some gang of sick fascists developed a tank for the "country".
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 2 August 2020 19: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Incvizitor
      Lived, some gang of sick fascists developed a tank for the "country".

      This is not a tank, but a vehicle to the churchyard. In order not to linger in the morgue.
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 August 2020 12: 23 New
    0
    You can buy Polish tanks.
  23. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 2 August 2020 12: 45 New
    0
    In Kiev, they said that this "miracle of technology" will change all ideas about tank building, making a real revolution in this industry.

  24. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 2 August 2020 13: 07 New
    0
    Hey, what about that fifth-grader Svidomo who invented his own tank? Is it a forest too? wink
  25. Fidel
    Fidel 2 August 2020 13: 46 New
    -3
    Wai me! Is that bad ???! But I still thought sho to sleep YOU REKHSAMI usyu Universe))))
  26. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 2 August 2020 14: 03 New
    -1
    I am a person far from design bureaus and brainy engineers ..... But nevertheless, I was always interested in all kinds of different developments. I noticed long ago that in the capitalist world nothing comes of anything. In the sense that the result is possible only where there is not only KB (brains) but also money (in this context, a lot of money). At the expense of Tirex, I saw loud statements))))) smart faces with rolling eyes and the absence of any funding. Well, in the end, and came out rolling eyes with a meaningful look. Indeed, in fact, at the moment we already have even the embodiment of Ukrainian tank building (so much praised by them as the best MBT) in metal ..... for Thailand and we do not have it in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ....... and as far as I remember it was accompanied with the words DEAR RICH for the APU, we will modernize a dozen T-64s for one tank with these grandmothers ... and if we look at the speed of tank deliveries to Thailand (probably / in fact), then the organizational conclusions suggest that tank building is in a lumpy ass .. ..... but we are actually reading something similar to the obituary of the Ukrainian tank building
  27. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 2 August 2020 16: 11 New
    0
    Most likely, they could not reproduce the technology for manufacturing tank barrels. And without a barrel, a tank is just a tractor on tracks ...
  28. blackbird
    blackbird 2 August 2020 17: 38 New
    -1
    "Denying the problem, accepting the problem, resigning to the problem." I'm not surprised that the Ukrainian griefs are crazy, they threw another project of a combat unit. And even if they put it into production, it would be made on the basis of the still existing Soviet tanks. T.K. Painfully familiar appearance of the case.
  29. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 2 August 2020 17: 39 New
    -1
    From grief! ... Trouble, chagrin ...
  30. Gato
    Gato 2 August 2020 17: 48 New
    0
    Manure will produce tanks even without factories. By dendrofecal technology.
  31. zenion
    zenion 2 August 2020 17: 52 New
    -2
    If they called him a bicycle raptor, he would fly, like the most common bird that almost ate China. Put two on the pedals, two to spin the impenetrable turret, two to control the barrel, two to the Maxim machine gun and two to twist the steering wheel and so that you can turn. And he can shoot with stone cannonballs, which can still be found along the river banks.
  32. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 2 August 2020 18: 36 New
    -1
    Yes, nothing will come of them, they ruined everything, there are no frames
    1. Afotin
      Afotin 3 August 2020 10: 01 New
      0
      The issue of personnel training is completely resolvable if there is funding and political will. You don't have to go too far for an example. After the Civil War, the situation was much more sad, but the Soviet Union was able to train personnel and industrialize at an accelerated pace. But the country 404 is overlaid with debts over its head and the local government has absolutely no desire to rectify the situation.
  33. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 2 August 2020 18: 39 New
    +1
    When developing, they forgot that this tank is for themselves, not for export. It is to Iraq that they can send armored personnel carriers with cracks.
    Metallurgy of Ukraine ordered to live long. Now they do not need to make weapons, but tractors in order to restore the country.
  34. awg75
    awg75 2 August 2020 18: 47 New
    0
    a strange decision ... to produce something that cannot be produced, since there is not the slightest technical possibility ... when there is not the slightest military-technical thought ... and this is in the country of the descendants of the great Sumerians, whose ancestors dug the Black Sea ... To be honest, I refuse to believe it. Categorically))))
  35. SPQR
    SPQR 2 August 2020 18: 58 New
    +1
    Maybe the weapon was forgotten not only in the picture for the article, but also on the project documentation)))
    They realized late that the super tank was left without a gun. Therefore, the project had to be rolled up loosely)))
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 August 2020 19: 01 New
    0
    Resources and brains are dumb ... laughing
  37. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 2 August 2020 20: 08 New
    +1
    Wunderwaffle failed ...
  38. LAUGH
    LAUGH 2 August 2020 20: 11 New
    -1
    It is a pity that they did not.
  39. LAUGH
    LAUGH 2 August 2020 20: 15 New
    -1
    And yes.
    1) I am a citizen of the Russian Federation;
    2) Art. reserve lieutenant.
    Why in vain? We have no competition among schools, but here ...
  40. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 2 August 2020 22: 08 New
    0
    In vain they abandoned Tirex - how much $ (hryvnia) could spend on its development ... bully However, "Great construction" has begun in Ukraine, a lot of $ will be spent ("sawn") bully , then maybe "Tirex" will be remembered when Rostik Abramov fellow "experience" will be gained.
  41. APASUS
    APASUS 2 August 2020 22: 45 New
    0
    I'm not an expert on tanks, but I found a dozen of such engineering problems there that it turns out that rabbits should be recruited into the Tirex crew, with such an arrangement.
  42. tank64rus
    tank64rus 3 August 2020 07: 56 New
    +1
    It was clear from the very beginning; it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about production and common sense.
  43. Ham
    Ham 3 August 2020 09: 27 New
    +1
    another epic sumerian wunderwolf went to the trash heap ...
    but adequate people immediately said that it was a chimera ...
  44. Afotin
    Afotin 3 August 2020 09: 51 New
    0
    This is not surprising at all. You can draw and draw anything you want, but without a developed industry in the modern world, nothing technically complex can be produced.
  45. AleBors
    AleBors 3 August 2020 09: 59 New
    +1
    Are you out of plywood?
  46. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 3 August 2020 12: 23 New
    0
    In order to produce something, you need to restore factories. And this requires money. Who will invest the money? The state does not.
  47. Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 3 August 2020 12: 50 New
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    бгг)) 30 years of Ukrainian absurdity made themselves felt
    I think they can't even make a skating rink from such a tank
  48. Vavan Kharlamov_2
    Vavan Kharlamov_2 3 August 2020 13: 20 New
    0
    They make carts from Carpathian pine.
  49. papas-57
    papas-57 3 August 2020 18: 28 New
    0
    Thank God you can sleep well.
  50. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 4 August 2020 08: 21 New
    0
    I remember they had an epic when the crazy ideas of children were extolled as a breakthrough in the development of weapons. The whole Ukraine discussed.
    [i] [/ i] I can imagine how the gray-haired, honored designer felt, listening to the ravings of a 13-year-old patriot. I wonder how many people wanted to roll his chicken neck and hide from this shame?
    1. Kuzmitsky
      4 August 2020 19: 46 New
      0
      Some of them left the country. I think there are many. And, most likely, the majority of Russian enterprises work who are not yet retired.