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“We need to deal with those who sent them here”: Lukashenka spoke about the detention of Russians

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“We need to deal with those who sent them here”: Lukashenka spoke about the detention of Russians

The network discusses the statements made by the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko during a conversation with the head of the interim administration of Belgazprombank, Nadezhda Yermakova. Lukashenko thanked Ermakova for the work she is doing to "save the bank" and added literally the following:


If Gazprom refuses it, God be with them. You can't ruin a bank.

Lukashenka said that “he sees no particular interest in preserving Belgazprombank from Gazprom.

Ermakova, answering Lukashenko, said that the Russian owners of the bank did not contact her. After that, she added that the bank "may not be as big as it was before."

On the same day, the President of Belarus heard a report from the heads of the Investigative Committee and the KGB of the republic. The report was devoted to the detention of 33 Russians, who are called "militants of Wagner PMC".

Lukashenko said that many facts are "interesting":

I see our older brothers are silent. They no longer shout that they sent these guys to Istanbul. There was no Istanbul and could not be, as it turned out in practice.

According to Lukashenko, this group had other goals, and now the task of the Belarusian special services is to clarify these goals.

At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

Lukashenka about the detainees:

They are soldiers. They were ordered - they went. It is necessary to deal with those who sent them here.

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 2 August 2020 06: 47 New
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    "Deal with those who sent them here": Lukashenko spoke about the detention of Russians
    You better figure out who advised you to get into this guano. Dangerous strategist. Return the guys HOME better. Very quickly. Every day of delay, this is another nail in your political coffin lid.
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      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 August 2020 07: 21 New
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        Quote: apro
        Quote: Observer2014
        You better return the guys HOME.

        Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
        Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

        My guys are far from being saints! And far from being earthly angels. But there is one thing! And I do not care about their "angels" They are my brothers in blood. Dukhu. They are the same hostages of circumstances as I am. Yes, you can list why until tomorrow.
        Bring the guys home to Russia. As long as the wind is without big knots. am
        1. apro
          apro 2 August 2020 07: 24 New
          -60
          Quote: Observer2014
          They are the same hostages of circumstances as I am.

          This is their choice.
          1. figwam
            figwam 2 August 2020 08: 03 New
            25
            And where are the other 170 private security companies? Are they still hiding or weren't there?
            The real overthrow from the West has long been paid for and is ready. A victory sign, a fist, a heart and drugs for the protesters must have been delivered, free tea and soup on the square will be available to everyone.

            1. gurzuf
              gurzuf 2 August 2020 10: 50 New
              -1
              With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget laughing
              1. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 2 August 2020 11: 10 New
                -3
                Quote: gurzuf
                With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget laughing

                Didn't the adults explain to you that you can't offend children and women?
                1. gurzuf
                  gurzuf 2 August 2020 11: 16 New
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                  Did the adults explain to you that there are no women and children in politics? When this is forgotten, they get a phrase like - the stink of the baby and as a result someone's blood is shed.
                  1. mdsr
                    mdsr 2 August 2020 11: 32 New
                    +4
                    Quote: gurzuf
                    Did the adults explain to you that there are no women and children in politics?

                    Frau Merkel's pantaloons will burst from laughing at you, and an iron lady named Margaret has repeatedly killed many men with ya ... mi.
                    1. Slavs
                      Slavs 2 August 2020 11: 47 New
                      +9
                      Quote: mdsr
                      iron lady named Margaret

                      Do you associate it with a woman ??? Like Merkel ???
                      1. Hermit
                        Hermit 2 August 2020 23: 05 New
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                        In any case, their names are definitely female. And whether they are women or men, only their husbands know yes lol
                      2. Slavs
                        Slavs 3 August 2020 08: 52 New
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                        Quote: Hermit
                        known only to their husbands

                        And they were (are) these husbands? )) Or only nominally? ))
                  2. gurzuf
                    gurzuf 2 August 2020 13: 38 New
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                    Exactly! And how Tymoshenko Yulia will laugh!
            2. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 2 August 2020 11: 34 New
              0
              Quote: gurzuf
              With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget laughing

              Hero, we were left with no choice, but a kiss to Luka in the hollow ...
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              2. gurzuf
                gurzuf 2 August 2020 13: 39 New
                -2
                Ugly dad? And even ... where, where are you used to kissing?
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              4. I AM BELARUSIAN
                I AM BELARUSIAN 2 August 2020 13: 47 New
                -4
                Yes, you are not a skalendarka, you are just an ordinary hamlo.
                1. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka 2 August 2020 16: 10 New
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                  Quote: I am BELARUS
                  Yes, you are not a skalendarka, you are just an ordinary hamlo.

                  Where did I go?
          2. nakhtigalsif
            nakhtigalsif 2 August 2020 11: 37 New
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            Quote: figvam
            And where are the other 170 private security companies? Are they still hiding or weren't there?
            The real overthrow from the West has long been paid for and is ready. A victory sign, a fist, a heart and drugs for the protesters must have been delivered, free tea and soup on the square will be available to everyone.


            ...rock Paper Scissors?
          3. Mikhail Alexandrov
            Mikhail Alexandrov 2 August 2020 19: 08 New
            0
            Well, with them Belarus will trample up the hill! wink
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 06 New
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          choice of what? to go to work calmly and what would they be dragged into the political showdown of the transit country in general? can you hear yourself? I don't like mercenaries. at all. but in this situation I am completely on their side. because I see all the insanity of the situation. Well, they don't go to special operations in droves. do not settle in hotels with their passports. to organize an hour of work for them at the open border. normal. rent a house on dummy 20 minutes on the Internet. I do not understand for whom all this is designed and who can believe in it. full downs without brains?
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 2 August 2020 09: 14 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            choice of what? to go to work calmly and what would they be dragged into the political showdown of the transit country in general? can you hear yourself? I don't like mercenaries. at all. but in this situation I am completely on their side. because I see all the insanity of the situation. Well, they don't go to special operations in droves. do not settle in hotels with their passports. to organize an hour of work for them at the open border. normal. rent a house on dummy 20 minutes on the Internet. I do not understand for whom all this is designed and who can believe in it. full downs without brains?

            So the cover allegedly was - a flight to Turkey, but no one flew, by the way, why? And we moved from the hotel to a sanatorium
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 2 August 2020 09: 19 New
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              missed the flight. said many times already. waited for another opportunity. and then conjectures and conspiracy theories begin. as if they were not going to fly and this is a cover and similar nonsense.
              1. mdsr
                mdsr 2 August 2020 11: 34 New
                -1
                Quote: carstorm 11
                missed the flight. waited for another opportunity

              2. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 2 August 2020 12: 10 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                missed the flight. said many times already. waited for another opportunity. and then conjectures and conspiracy theories begin. as if they were not going to fly and this is a cover and similar nonsense.

                It sounds as if Gagarin was late for the rocket))
                A group of PMC fighters missed the plane ahahaha)))) I don't even know which would be better, true or not
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 2 August 2020 12: 35 New
                  +3
                  what's so funny? Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? there breakdowns are common. not. Well, you want to believe that a crowd of people came to Minsk and began to shine their passports everywhere. to move around in a crowd to disrupt your case) and that the only one who benefits from Lukashenka himself is so epic.
                  1. Vol4ara
                    Vol4ara 2 August 2020 13: 49 New
                    -3
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    what's so funny? Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? there breakdowns are common. not. Well, you want to believe that a crowd of people came to Minsk and began to shine their passports everywhere. to move around in a crowd to disrupt your case) and that the only one who benefits from Lukashenka himself is so epic.

                    How does it benefit him? Break off relations with the Russian Federation, get gas and oil at average European prices, lose the sales market for cx products? profitable ... apparently the hat closes the eyes. Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? It is very difficult to get on the bus and get to the airport, this requires special education
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 15: 09 New
                      +2
                      provided and many times. including RB. and goods and people. work like that. though last year we have refused this but for our own reasons. what does oil and everything else have to do with it? we are talking about elections and this situation. an attempt to disrupt the elections of what were these people accused of who is most important? who will remain in power if they fail?)
                    2. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 2 August 2020 16: 50 New
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                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      provided and many times. including RB. and goods and people. work like that. though last year we have refused this but for our own reasons. what does oil and everything else have to do with it? we are talking about elections and this situation. an attempt to disrupt the elections of what were these people accused of who is most important? who will remain in power if they fail?)

                      Lukashenka, and if Lukashenka is in power, I see no reason to reinvent the bicycle. So that Lukashenka is the last one who needs all this. And oil and gas have a lot to do with it, and if you don't try to pull the owl onto the globe, but turn on your head, then oil and gas will go nuts here. Quarrels with the Russian Federation are generally not profitable for Belarus
                    3. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 17: 07 New
                      +1
                      exactly. in fact, it turns out if all this is to believe him and they came to help))) the idiocy of the situation eludes you along the way?) profitable. if interests only win elections and there the grass does not grow.
            2. Pissarro
              Pissarro 2 August 2020 14: 12 New
              +4
              Doubt about the ability of the special services to organize a late flight? Should you punch the bus wheel or put the traffic cop on the way?)
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 2 August 2020 14: 25 New
                -4
                Quote: Pissarro
                Doubt about the ability of the special services to organize a late flight? Should you punch the bus wheel or put the traffic cop on the way?)

                And they punctured the wheel and put a traffic cop?
                1. Pissarro
                  Pissarro 2 August 2020 14: 27 New
                  +2
                  How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent. But the record will remain in the KGB archives. In 50 years, maybe they will publish)
                2. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 2 August 2020 14: 40 New
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                  Quote: Pissarro
                  How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent. But the record will remain in the KGB archives. In 50 years, maybe they will publish)

                  So let them tell themselves? And they tell, only they get confused in the testimony. The secret services must have planted psychedelics in their borscht
                3. Pissarro
                  Pissarro 2 August 2020 14: 44 New
                  +5
                  The fact that they are confused in the testimony we know only from the directors of a cheap performance, so cheap that even in the West they laugh at the production, and I am not talking about Belarusians.
                  Here the hostages come out, let's listen to the direct speech
                4. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 2 August 2020 16: 43 New
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                  Quote: Pissarro
                  The fact that they are confused in the testimony we know only from the directors of a cheap performance, so cheap that even in the West they laugh at the production, and I am not talking about Belarusians.
                  Here the hostages come out, let's listen to the direct speech

                  Who is laughing in the West? I haven't heard any laugh
              2. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 2 August 2020 15: 13 New
                +4
                what are they confused about? Did you take evidence from them? they don't have to prove anything at all. they are confused in the testimony) if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.
              3. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 2 August 2020 16: 48 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                what are they confused about? Did you take evidence from them? they don't have to prove anything at all. they are confused in the testimony) if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.

                And if there was truth, then you don't need to strain, tell the truth and that's it - where you can get confused. And they usually get confused when they try to hide something.
              4. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 2 August 2020 17: 03 New
                +4
                okay?) Seriously?) I understand that the belief in universal idiocy is cool) 200 people are preparing for power specialties. omit it is not clear why. to hell with him. they go in a crowd through a Belarusian company because they need a contract for work to cross the border (they could just go as they did everything through taxi drivers all the months, but okay). come. settle in a hotel under their passports (to rent a cottage through third parties or something else, apparently, their religion does not allow them). then they move to the recreation center under their own passports. move in a crowd. conspiracy level 90. do not bother anyone. do not drink. they don't hang around women. discipline is observed. are polite. take 33 people. and where are the other 170 people then?) where at least their signs and search? why do not all TV countries of the country show orientation towards these dangerous people?) 170 is more than 33 and much more dangerous) we have three militants being chased by all the special services. until destroyed. up to military operations. and here 170))) to believe in something like this is epic insanity)))
              5. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 2 August 2020 17: 07 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                okay?) Seriously?) I understand that the belief in universal idiocy is cool) 200 people are preparing for power specialties. omit it is not clear why. to hell with him. they go in a crowd through a Belarusian company because they need a contract for work to cross the border (they could just go as they did everything through taxi drivers all the months, but okay). come. settle in a hotel under their passports (to rent a cottage through third parties or something else, apparently, their religion does not allow them). then they move to the recreation center under their own passports. move in a crowd. conspiracy level 90. do not bother anyone. do not drink. they don't hang around women. discipline is observed. are polite. take 33 people. and where are the other 170 people then?) where at least their signs and search? why do not all TV countries of the country show orientation towards these dangerous people?) 170 is more than 33 and much more dangerous) we have three militants being chased by all the special services. until destroyed. up to military operations. and here 170))) to believe in something like this is epic insanity)))

                It is logical, but also to believe that "missed the plane." too like myself
              6. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 2 August 2020 17: 18 New
                0
                it is better, of course, to believe that 200 people arrived and 170 were lost) and 33 people about whose movement every dog ​​knew came to arrange a revolution) but to be late on the plane is of course out of the ordinary) I somehow flew from Moscow to Khabarovsk. I calculated everything. went from Tsaritsyno to Domodedovo. called a taxi. fit in time as it should. but the taxi driver turned out to be from the series, but show the way) and I arrived when the registration desk was already closed in the end) and hello) well, that's it, so that you would understand how it happens)
              7. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 2 August 2020 18: 24 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                it is better, of course, to believe that 200 people arrived and 170 were lost) and 33 people about whose movement every dog ​​knew came to arrange a revolution) but to be late on the plane is of course out of the ordinary) I somehow flew from Moscow to Khabarovsk. I calculated everything. went from Tsaritsyno to Domodedovo. called a taxi. fit in time as it should. but the taxi driver turned out to be from the series, but show the way) and I arrived when the registration desk was already closed in the end) and hello) well, that's it, so that you would understand how it happens)

                Riding a group of fighters to the war in the Middle East and taking a taxi by plane to have a rest or for work are slightly different levels of organization and responsibility
              8. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 2 August 2020 18: 32 New
                +1
                can break down for a bunch of reasons. even the most commonplace) okay. believe about the revolutionaries, your business. I personally am not going to believe in this nonsense)
    2. New
      New Year day 2 August 2020 17: 47 New
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.

      So the group flew to 3 points at once? laughing
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 18: 01 New
      +1
      what difference does it make to how they split after Turkey? and what they will do in general is also irrelevant. Turkey is now a place from where almost all the hot spots of that region get. why can't it be that they can separate? there can be many contracts. the rotation has not been canceled. this is their business. again, they are not required to disclose trade secrets because they may be bound by nondisclosure contracts. there is a specific Turkey to which they were going and a specific Minsk through which they flew. which has been doing hundreds of people all these months. Seafarers or other employees working overseas. called. ordered a taxi. there are a lot of villages and roads. go is not a problem. a whole business has been organized there in these months. and no one was interested in these people) and others like them also traveled more than once) and to believe an engaged investigator is such a thing. his task is to pull the owl onto the globe.
    4. New
      New Year day 2 August 2020 18: 22 New
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      what's the difference how they split after Turkey

      Turn on your head! They checked into a hotel before their flight. They were not going to fly. And after their flight, they could fly away on the next 4. How can this be explained?
    5. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 18: 39 New
      +2
      waiting, for example, a few more people) the unwillingness of the receiving party. I can throw in a dozen more reasons) you are digging into the fact that in general it has nothing to do with the case) there is a fact of the detention of a group of unarmed people under the article terrorism. people with all the documents on hand. not breaking any laws. if there was a suspicion, then normal operatives would first of all work out their connections. to conduct surveillance. collect evidence. and seek out indirect ones. there is no problem to expose the outside tightly. keep the capture group operational. wait for at least a reconnaissance on the ground. studying plans and streets. at least some signs of preparation for action. at least minimal.
    6. New
      New Year day 2 August 2020 19: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: carstorm 11
      you are delving into what has nothing to do with the case at all

      The devil is in the little things, and in such a muddy business there can be no little things. I personally just want to understand the situation, but without understanding there is no opinion
    7. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 19: 20 New
      +1
      I gave you as many details as you like. the group, instead of preparing for what they are charged with doing what is resting) is sleeping. is eating. operatives instead of normal work and identifying preparation (which is done in the first place) stupidly takes them sleeping in a sanatorium. proofs are trying to blind from not even circumstantial evidence but stupid speculation. they shine with their passports. official documents are drawn up. the terrain is not being studied. weapons are not prepared. do not meet with messengers. instructions are not received) in short, not specialists, but a kindergarten second group.
    8. New
      New Year day 2 August 2020 19: 22 New
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      I gave you details

      I tell you, the group did not fly anywhere, Minsk is the final destination. The group was expected in Minsk. Lukashenka was drained from Moscow
    9. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 19: 33 New
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      clear) well, I will not argue. believe in this delirium-your will.
    10. New
      New Year day 2 August 2020 19: 43 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      believe in this delirium-your will.

      This nonsense has been proven in Minsk.
    11. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 19: 48 New
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      boldly) proved how?) even their officials do not say a single word about proven) well, of course you know) okay. I'm tired . I am a bit more an officer and I know very well what training is. I know what the signs of a crime are. in general, everything that is not there even in hints. there is only a statement by the investigator that there is someone who is confused in something. who apparently does not even understand what the collection of evidence is.
  2. nerd.su
    nerd.su 3 August 2020 12: 27 New
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    Quote: Silvestr
    I tell you, the group did not fly anywhere, Minsk is the final destination.

    on what basis do you say this?
  3. nerd.su
    nerd.su 3 August 2020 12: 24 New
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    Quote: Silvestr
    Turn on your head! They checked into a hotel before their flight. They were not going to fly.

    Hello, we arrived. It was by Russian business trip standards that they were not going to fly, because they settled in the hotel. So I worked as something in a normal joint office, albeit with Russian participation. So in the morning I flew to Moscow and 8 hours before the next flight you don't hang out at the airport, but they take you to the hotel at public expense, sleep until the evening because you still have a lot to fly, not up to the Moscow beauties, then you are taken to the airport. And along the way, a lot can prevent you from arriving on time. Traffic jams, the breakdown of a public bus and the greed of organizers who do not want to urgently charter another bus, but are trying to get by on their own until the end. And still the darkness of reasons. Considering that the chop or PMC, but not the point, the organization, in general, has an international swing, then they were taken to the hotel, especially if there is still a long flight ahead with waiting in Istanbul.
    Quote: Silvestr
    And after their flight, they could fly away on the next 4. How can this be explained?

    It’s easy to explain, you need to find connecting flights more comfortable, which, given the nature of the activity, can be difficult. Up to the point that somewhere in an intermediate or final point, the right person must replace him.
  4. nerd.su
    nerd.su 3 August 2020 12: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    what difference does it make to how they split after Turkey? and what they will do in general is also irrelevant.

    Well, don't tell me. Erdogan is now probably nervously smoking on the balcony of his residence. No sooner had the main Orthodox church turned into a mosque again, but a group of Wagner was already flying towards it! ...
  5. New
    New Year day 2 August 2020 17: 45 New
    -1
    Quote: Pissarro
    How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent

    Read an interview with the driver who drove them to the airport: halfway through the route, the fighters changed their route and drove them to the shelter
  6. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 2 August 2020 18: 06 New
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    and what?) I hope they explained to him in detail why they did it?) where to read it? I can't find something
  7. New
    New Year day 2 August 2020 18: 19 New
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    where to read it? I can't find something

    Look on Belarusian sites, there is a lot written there. The Russian border guards did not release the group until a special call, screenshots of phone sms were posted. Informative
  8. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 2 August 2020 18: 30 New
    +1
    not anywhere) maybe you read it in blogs?)
  9. New
    New Year day 2 August 2020 19: 24 New
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    not anywhere) maybe you read it in blogs?)

    No, tonight in the newspaper. Now at the dacha with a phone - I can't give a link
  • Mikhail Alexandrov
    Mikhail Alexandrov 2 August 2020 19: 10 New
    +2
    The question is that THEY violated in Belarus ????????
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 2 August 2020 10: 54 New
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    Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 2 August 2020 12: 09 New
      -10
      Quote: gurzuf
      Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you.

      So from the point of view of the Old Man, they did not have time to commit an illegal act. It is not necessary to slaughter someone to be detained.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 2 August 2020 12: 36 New
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        Prove intent. tell me who benefits from disrupting the elections from all candidates?)))
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 2 August 2020 13: 52 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          Prove intent. tell me who benefits from disrupting the elections from all candidates?)))

          Definitely not Lukash, he has 70% according to polls
          1. Vlad Pervovich
            Vlad Pervovich 2 August 2020 14: 24 New
            +2
            like they wrote ... 3%
          2. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 2 August 2020 16: 55 New
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            Quote: Vlad Pervovich
            like they wrote ... 3%

            So they wrote about 70, too, the devil himself will not understand them, everyone makes his own poll and writes his rating, counting votes in all cases is absolutely not important
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 August 2020 15: 22 New
          +5
          you know. I didn’t always mind Lukashenka before. even defended him in his time. but my mother's huge family has 3 sisters and a brother. their kids. husbands and wives of their children. no one for him. zero. I understand that this is just a private opinion, but very indicative for me.
      2. New
        New Year day 2 August 2020 17: 50 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        prove intent

        Where are you in a hurry? As Furgala is unfounded to accuse, so please, but here, "prove it." People are specially trained for this. No need for 2 standards!
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 2 August 2020 14: 08 New
      +2
      You must at least have a knife to detain you on the way to stabbing)
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 2 August 2020 14: 26 New
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        Quote: Pissarro
        You must at least have a knife to detain you on the way to stabbing)

        All eggs in one basket are kept only by fools
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 2 August 2020 14: 38 New
          +1
          No question, please provide a second basket)
          Knitting people just because they could theoretically commit a crime was stopped already during the transition from the Neolithic, when any unarmed person could enter a pre-Sumerian or ancient Egyptian city without the risk of being tied just like that)
  • Slavs
    Slavs 2 August 2020 11: 44 New
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    Quote: apro
    This is their choice.

    Sometimes life puts you in such a position that there is no choice ... You probably did not.
    Not from a good life ...
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    1. gurzuf
      gurzuf 2 August 2020 10: 55 New
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      Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you. If this is not the case, do not put the specified substance on the fan.
      1. Shooter22
        Shooter22 2 August 2020 12: 55 New
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        I saw the filming of this detention on the central Belarusian channels: heavily armed KGB special forces with the support of riot policemen broke down the doors to hotel rooms, broke in, "poked" unarmed people with their noses on the floor like cattle and dragged them into police wagons. Laughter! Was it really impossible to hold the event less pompous, especially since no one was going to resist the Belarusian security forces there? It's just a "show" for internal consumption, as well as an extraordinary meeting of Luka's Security Council with his honey-drinkers (I would call it differently, but the censorship will not let it through) on the topic: Russia wants to arrange a Maidan with us. Nauseous already. At the same time, the announcers of all channels, as if on command, call the detained Russians "militants", not bothering themselves with any arguments or even hints at the available evidence of their guilt or the grounds for their detention. This is a clear overkill on the part of the Luka clan.
    2. Slavs
      Slavs 2 August 2020 11: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      They are not fighting for the Motherland, they are fighting for those who pay them.

      How do you know? ...
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 13: 53 New
        12
        Quote: Slavs
        Quote: aleksejkabanets

        They are not fighting for the Motherland, they are fighting for those who pay them.

        How do you know? ...

        Those who seek to fight for their homeland go to the army.
        Moreover, it can achieve to be sent to one of the hot spots.

        PS In civil wars, each side is at war for the Motherland, but their understanding of what the Motherland should be is mortally different.
        1. Slavs
          Slavs 2 August 2020 15: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Those who seek to fight for their homeland go to the army.

          Thank you in the know ...
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 2 August 2020 12: 46 New
      +9
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      And the Belarusian people are not brothers? Why are you trying to oppose Russians to Belarusians.

      That Russians, that Belarusians are good people and brothers.
      Only, not those, not others in their countries are not masters, for a long time.
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 2 August 2020 09: 06 New
    20
    By the way, an interesting version appeared in Tg:

    ⚡️Chinese companies could have ordered the detention of the "Wagnerites" in Minsk

    As it became known to the @wargonzo project from sources in the special services of the Republic of Bashkortostan, it was Chinese companies competing with the Russian Federation in Africa and Venezuela that asked Lukashenka to break the logistics scheme for supplying Russian specialists to these regions. We will provide you with detailed details and a full breakdown soon.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 August 2020 11: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: K-612-O
      asked Lukashenka to break the logistic scheme of supplying Russian specialists to these regions.

      Nothing to say! If this is true ... then the conclusion follows:
      Well, our government's allies and partners are good!
      Damn, again - ONE WARRIOR IN THE FIELD !!!
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 11: 09 New
    -6
    Quote: Observer2014
    My guys are far from being saints! And far from being earthly angels. But there is one thing! And I do not care about their "angel" They are my brothers by blood. Spirit. They are the same hostages of circumstances

    Yes, the guys seem to be set up and got stuck, so Lukashenka orders to treat them without harshness and to identify the person who ordered the incident.
    And the question is: Are you sure that if they are transferred to Russia, they will not face a harsh disassembly of the flight, landing, or even extradition to Ukraine? They "flew" to Libya for money and under a contract with a party,
    with which Russia seems to be opposing.
    There is more and more evidence that the detained Russians are fighters of another PMC, Mar, who signed a contract with the Government of National Accord Faiz Saraj to protect the oil infrastructure in Libya.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 2 August 2020 11: 57 New
      +7
      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
      They "flew" to Libya for money and under a contract with a party,
      with which Russia seems to be opposing.

      Why don't you quote to the end ??
      There is a version that PNS signed "Mar" for the protection of the refinery, and the contractor bears full responsibility for the safety of the infrastructure. But in the aftermath, as an option, to capture and expose as "Wagner", proving the presence of Russia in Libya, naturally without mentioning the contract with "Mar".
      So ... who and by whose order detained the guys is a question ...
      But perhaps they have kept their heads ... And dad is playing in his own interests .... Kozlins.
      Perhaps they wanted to use them in the manner of Shugalei ... And their curators (PNS) are good, with experience ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 3 August 2020 10: 36 New
    -1
    Home needs to be returned without controversy, but there is one thing? why not publicize who they work for? Or why, as you “say brothers by blood,” do not put things in order in their house, Russia? or are they patriots only where more green bills are paid?
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 23 New
    39
    And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way? And by the way, all these quirks ended badly for Belarus, that Uralkali, that MZKT, which had to be nationalized, so that it would not go wild and as a result, our army goes to BAZ, and about the bank in general, beauty, took and squeezed. But the Russians are to blame.
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 07: 29 New
      -59
      Quote: K-612-O
      And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

      Because you have to deal with Russians ...
      But he kept the factories and production ...
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 33 New
        38
        With MZKT and MAZ it is very noticeable, MAZ finally fell under the Germans, MZKT lost orders a lot, plus the technology and CD were handed over to the Chinese for a penny, prices for agricultural products increased.
        And what is the result for citizens?
        Something income there from this has not grown much.
        1. apro
          apro 2 August 2020 07: 38 New
          -38
          Quote: K-612-O
          And what is the result for citizens?

          Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????
          1. unhappy
            unhappy 2 August 2020 07: 45 New
            32
            You go on, we understood your message.
            You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they do not have democracy ...
            1. apro
              apro 2 August 2020 07: 51 New
              -22
              Quote: unhappy
              You go on, we understood your message.
              You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they do not have democracy ...

              For me, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, one people, one state, has always been and will be ...
              1. unhappy
                unhappy 2 August 2020 08: 01 New
                15
                And also the brothers of the Slavs, remember the type of Bulgarians. How much blood they lost with the Turks ...
                1. Postum
                  Postum 2 August 2020 08: 56 New
                  -29
                  And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count
                  1. Sklendarka
                    Sklendarka 2 August 2020 11: 12 New
                    0
                    Quote: Postum
                    And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count

                    Yes, and during the presidency, they did not stain
                  2. Postum
                    Postum 2 August 2020 11: 15 New
                    -5
                    I wonder why they minus, for the truth, which does not agree with the worldview of the "patriots", well, excuse me, people have always been a consumable for solving the goals of state managers, often at odds with the goals of the people ...
                  3. Slavs
                    Slavs 2 August 2020 12: 00 New
                    0
                    Quote: Postum
                    I wonder why they minus, for the truth,

                    Take care of yourself, patriot ... God forbid you suffer for the Motherland, truth-lover ...))))
                  4. Postum
                    Postum 2 August 2020 12: 44 New
                    +2
                    So what, you have something to argue with NATO that the people have always been a consumable?
                  5. Slavs
                    Slavs 2 August 2020 15: 38 New
                    -1
                    You won't get into the consumable, don't worry ...
            2. MMX
              MMX 2 August 2020 18: 35 New
              0
              Quote: Postum
              And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count


              No, well, in other countries they die solely of their own free will while performing a feat to defend the country and without the knowledge of the country's leadership (noble humanistic, of course).
              And only in Mordor / Russia orders to fight (die) are given by the bloodthirsty rulers of the state ...
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 09 New
          19
          You just explain it to Butler, otherwise he has forgotten it for 10 years already.
          1. apro
            apro 2 August 2020 08: 21 New
            -44
            Who would explain to zero ...
            1. Andr_38
              Andr_38 2 August 2020 11: 24 New
              16
              Quote: apro
              Who would explain to zero ...

              The difference is that Putin ("zeroed out" in your podzabornaya jargon) does not take the Belarusians who have come to Russia as part of the pre-election PR as hostages, and Lukashenka has already sunk to this point.
            2. apro
              apro 2 August 2020 11: 28 New
              -10
              Quote: Andr_38
              does not take Belarusians who have come to Russia as part of the pre-election PR hostage

              And what were the Belarusian mercenaries there?
            3. Andr_38
              Andr_38 2 August 2020 11: 45 New
              +6
              Quote: apro

              And what were the Belarusian mercenaries there?

              Whoever was there, but to take hostage a crowd of arrived Belarusians is nonsense for Russia, absolutely impossible. And in Belarus it is already in the order of things.
        3. bayard
          bayard 2 August 2020 13: 01 New
          10
          Is it a shame that they have removed the subsidies?
          Oil was not allowed to sell?
          Do not give as before in three throats as a heifer to suck the uterus?
          Everything for yourself, nothing in return?

          Who gave a generous hand to the fascist Ukraine with oil products, spare parts for military equipment and everything necessary for terror in Donbas?
          Who is with her - the fascist Ukraine, conducting joint projects in rocketry? Financing terrorists?
          Your Bulbo-Banderaites are "dad".
          The enemy of Russian unity, the Russian World, the enemy of the union state of Russia and Belarus.
          The one who imprisoned Belarusian volunteers returning from Donbass.
          Anyone who is now looking for "protection from Russia" from the United States ... fool

          The only thing that can be envied is how he keeps his ministers and the entire vertical.
          But for how long, is it left for him, with such a policy ...
        4. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 3 August 2020 11: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: bayard
          Who gave a generous hand to the fascist Ukraine with oil products, spare parts for military equipment and everything necessary for terror in Donbas?

          Well, this is fraternal Ukraine. leading the war of independence:
          We got independence very cheaply: all peoples fought, today our fraternal Ukraine is fighting.
          © From the statement of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko on January 26 at the ceremony of presenting doctoral diplomas and professor's certificates to scientific and pedagogical workers.
        5. bayard
          bayard 3 August 2020 11: 44 New
          +1
          So he himself declared himself a fan of Hitler - extensively substantiated how good this figure was for HIS people ... National Socialism ... he is.
          And whose son he is - is unknown ... a bastard ... Perhaps the father's genes are walking - policemen, Bandera.
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 2 August 2020 11: 01 New
    +7
    Strongly noticeable. Probably from this you write in one sentence the name of the countries "Russia and Ukraine" in different ways. The truth is not in this discussion. I wonder why?
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 11: 03 New
      -13
      Quote: gurzuf
      I wonder why?

      The key phrase is not in this discussion.
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 2 August 2020 11: 06 New
        +5
        Strong position! Like - I remember here, I don't remember here. laughing Even for children. the garden does not pull.
      2. apro
        apro 2 August 2020 11: 15 New
        -15
        The inconsistent position of Russia is because the presence of a clear goal-setting is two, and its subordinate position in relation to the financial imperialists, genocide of the Russian people.
      3. gurzuf
        gurzuf 2 August 2020 11: 21 New
        10
        And for this you write "russia" in comparison with "Ukraine" with a small letter !!! ??? I say, in kindergarten the contingent is more serious!
      4. apro
        apro 2 August 2020 11: 31 New
        -19
        There is a lot of talk here about the greatness. The power of Russia. But in fact it’s pshik. Ukraine. Belarus is just a territory from which Russia refused with its own hands. Today it wants to prove something.
      5. gurzuf
        gurzuf 2 August 2020 13: 44 New
        +4
        Here! As soon as you start poking your nose into yours, all the camouflage will fly off you. And then - "The key phrase is not in this discussion."
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 19 New
    -25
    Quote: unhappy
    You go on, we understood your message.
    You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they do not have democracy ...

    Oh, how wonderful it is to throw a known substance at the fan.
    1. unhappy
      unhappy 2 August 2020 08: 23 New
      +7
      What are you dissatisfied with? Gamno does not smell of roses, really do not like life?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 27 New
        -19
        Quote: unhappy
        What are you dissatisfied with? Gamno does not smell of roses, really do not like life?

        Describing the truth of life and throwing "gamna" at the fan are somewhat different things.
        1. unhappy
          unhappy 2 August 2020 08: 49 New
          19
          It was you who raised the subject of substance, not me.
          The truth of life is that we, Russians, are constantly blamed for the fact that we live badly and we do not have democracy (and the "Europeans" are all in white), I noted this hit, and you accused me of throwing Mr.
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 55 New
          -2
          Quote: unhappy
          It was you who raised the subject of substance, not me.
          The truth of life is that we, Russians, are constantly blamed for the fact that we live badly and we do not have democracy (and the "Europeans" are all in white), I noted this hit, and you accused me of throwing Mr.

          The truth of life is that the Minsk turner Roman has nothing to share with the Novgorod plumber, Uncle Vasya. They both do not care about democracy, they need a just welfare state. And the endless opposition of Russians and Belarusians only plays into the hands of both our external enemies and internal ones.
        3. unhappy
          unhappy 2 August 2020 09: 16 New
          24

          Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

          I write the word "Russia" with a capital letter.
          An adult must realize that there was no justice, there is no and there will not be (a just state is Campanella's mythical "city-sun"). We must work and not engage in revolutions. Who raised the storm in Ukraine? Not Uncle Vasya or Roma, but local oligarchs-Nazis. Bucha in Belarus - the local "elite" also wants to steer ...

          .
        4. apro
          apro 2 August 2020 09: 19 New
          -43
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          The truth of life is that the Minsk turner Roman has nothing to share with the Novgorod plumber, Uncle Vasya.

          Alexei don't explain the obvious to the Russians ... their master is still better ...
        5. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 09: 47 New
          -14
          Quote: apro
          Alexei don't explain the obvious to the Russians ... their master is still better ...

          Not Russians, but Russians. But seriously, you have your own guards, and we have our own, but they have the same goals. It is necessary that the slaves serve their bars faithfully and do not open their mouths. And the fact that nationalism is kindled, so do not care.
        6. Ramon Merkader
          Ramon Merkader 2 August 2020 14: 33 New
          +2
          Of course I'm sorry, but you, my friend, are apparently not Russian. In my childhood, this word was a dirty word, synonymous with "slow-witted" and "brakes"
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 46 New
    19
    Interestingly, do our enterprises receive raw materials and energy for free? How long does the Arab League pull rubber from the common market so that the income from the export of petroleum products and the import of sanctions is not lost? And excuse me how much non-refundable money was given out at the first request, and do not forget that the supply of oil and gas partially goes towards the supply of agricultural products. And the standard of living is comparable to the standard of living in the regions neighboring Belarus.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 2 August 2020 07: 53 New
    11
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And what is the result for citizens?

    Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

    And how does this affect this filth? Return the couples to Russia. All that is required of you. fool You amaze ("Pasha" is not about you personally hi I'm talking about the official Minsk) You yourself exposed your Fabergés under attack. Probably you are pleased? laughing
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 07: 57 New
      -31
      Quote: Observer2014
      And how does this affect this filth?

      Management efficiency.
      They will return to work ... someone else's not necessary ... your own is enough.
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      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 11 New
        25
        What do you say if 28 people are handed over to the Sumerians? Understood means?
        1. apro
          apro 2 August 2020 08: 28 New
          -42
          Quote: K-612-O
          What do you say if 28 people are handed over to the Sumerians? Understood means?

          There will be a new surrender ... there will be a new game ...
          Do not think out for others ...
          1. Slavs
            Slavs 2 August 2020 12: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: apro
            There will be a new surrender ... there will be a new game ...

            Eh, Olezhka, I would like to hand you over to someone ... And we would play the game here for you ...
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 2 August 2020 08: 03 New
    31
    Quote: apro
    there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ... and the average standard of living of Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of Russian

    The main income from the refining of Russian oil and living in debt.
    Take an interest in how there is with the debts at the father.
    As for the silly complaints about the lack of oil and gas, then Belarus and others like it do not have to bear huge defense costs, there are no frosty Siberian winters and northern remote territories that need to be provided, there is a convenient location for transit, etc.
    Everyone has their own advantages and their own problems, and the art of managing the economy is not in asking for a loan, but in ensuring that enterprises operate efficiently, make a profit, and not be saved through state subsidies, i.e., through the same debts.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 23 New
      -29
      Quote: Alekseev
      Take an interest in how there is with the debts at the father.

      Ask how we are with corporate debt, and then climb to the neighbors.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 2 August 2020 08: 55 New
        +9
        Do not mix one with the other. It is different, like horseradish and a finger.
        Corporations do not give subsidies for food, and, often, their debt is formed from the need to make investments in production and there will be no serious sanctions against a corporation that has a large debt to Western banks, otherwise who will pay off the debts?
        That ee Gazprom borrowed 25 billion in China and did not distribute it "to support the pants", but built the Power of Siberia and a gas processing plant in the Amur Region. Do not hesitate, the loan will pay off.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 2 August 2020 09: 57 New
          -12
          And why did you build the Power of Siberia ?, where is it needed ???
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 2 August 2020 12: 23 New
            -1
            Quote: Skalendarka
            where is it needed ???

            And forgive the Chinese? the other day we continued to build its continuation - "Eastern Route", in the amount of 5100 km. The northern section is ready, midway from Jilin Province to Hebei Province, to be launched by the end of 2020, to Shanghai by June 2025.
          2. muham
            muham 2 August 2020 19: 11 New
            -1
            Quote: BrTurin
            the other day we continued to build its continuation - "Eastern Route", in the amount of 5100 km. The northern section is ready, midway from Jilin Province to Hebei Province, to be launched by the end of 2020, to Shanghai by June 2025.
            But what about
            Quote: K-612-O
            ⚡️Chinese companies could have ordered the detention of the "Wagnerites" in Minsk
          3. Brturin
            Brturin 2 August 2020 19: 17 New
            0
            Quote: muham
            But what about
            Quote: K-612-O
            ⚡️Chinese companies could have ordered the detention of the "Wagnerites" in Minsk

            And before that, that this is a Libyan setup ... they wanted to lure and hand over ... versions and conspiracy theories above the roof, there are facts ...
          4. muham
            muham 2 August 2020 19: 41 New
            0
            Quote: BrTurin
            And before that, that this is a Libyan setup ... they wanted to lure and hand over ... versions and conspiracy theories above the roof, there are facts.
            Duck versions of the wagon and trolley to boot. One thing is strange to me, Prilepin would not have sung without notes. I do not believe that his song is amateur performance. So the ball is tangled here ...
          5. Brturin
            Brturin 2 August 2020 20: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: muham
            Prilepin would not have sung without notes.

            Notes, not notes, but I don't think it will affect the construction of the Eastern Route or the Chinese stadium in Minsk. The ball ... now there are too many emotions and few facts (and those that are interpreted this way and that). ... the ball will not unravel the Moebius loop ...
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 10: 15 New
    -4
    Quote: Alekseev
    Do not mix one with the other. It is different, like horseradish and a finger.

    Different, then different, but if you have not noticed, corporations from the state budget to cover the debts of subsidies are different.
    Quote: Alekseev
    and built the Power of Siberia and a gas processing plant in the Amur region. Do not hesitate, the loan will pay off.

    We do not "fail" to pay off. "It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time
    You won't have to - neither me nor you. "Nekrasov N.A.
  • almen1
    almen1 2 August 2020 17: 35 New
    0
    And who needs all this?
  • mark2
    mark2 2 August 2020 08: 58 New
    18
    Ask how we have a corporate debt, and then climb to neighbors


    And you are an excellent student in the study of State Department manuals, I'm looking. Compare the state debt of Belarus with the corporate debt of Russian companies. Why not compare public debts or only corporate ones?

    Well, let's imagine what? Russia will pay its debt itself, and dad will ask for a loan again
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 10: 16 New
      -5
      Quote: mark2
      Well, let's imagine what? Russia will pay its debt itself, and dad will ask for a loan again

      Will he ask you?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 10: 34 New
      -7
      Quote: mark2
      And you are an excellent student in the study of State Department manuals, I'm looking. Compare the state debt of Belarus with the corporate debt of Russian companies. Why not compare public debts or only corporate ones?

      That is why
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Different, then different, but if you have not noticed, corporations from the state budget to cover the debts of subsidies are different.
  • Brturin
    Brturin 2 August 2020 11: 11 New
    -2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Ask how we are with corporate debt, and then climb the neighbors

    He asked - "The debts of Russian companies in 2019 increased by 4,5% and amounted to 42 trillion rubles. This was announced by the Central Bank of Russia on its website on Monday," February 10. https://iz.ru/974562/2020-02-10/tcb-podschital-dolgi-rossiiskikh-kompanii At the same time, Russia's GDP in 2019 amounted to 109 billion rubles. With 109 debt 42.
    Belarus - With GDP in 2019 - 132 billion rubles - debt 123 ....
    At the beginning of 2014, the total debts of large and medium-sized enterprises amounted to BYN 53 billion. A year later, they increased to 66,3 billion BYN, by 2016 - up to 92,1 billion BYN, by 2017 - up to 98,9 billion BYN, by 2018 - up to 111,7 billion BYN, by 2019 - up to 123,6 billion BYN.
    https://banki24.by/news/4277-dolgi-belorusskih-predpriyatiy-prevysili.
    The growth of liabilities continued in 2020: at the beginning of the year, debts reached BYN 132,8 billion, by June 1 - BYN 145,7 billion.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 2 August 2020 12: 50 New
      +2
      Russia's GDP is only 109 billion rubles ?? Fix
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 2 August 2020 14: 43 New
        0
        Editing time is limited, so ...
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 2 August 2020 14: 37 New
    +2
    You are confusing corporate debt with government debt. In the first case, the corporation is bankrupt, in the second - the state. The difference is obvious.
  • Ilshat
    Ilshat 2 August 2020 08: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Alekseev
    and northern remote areas that need to be provided

    In practice, exactly the opposite.
    Russia exists practically only at the expense of the northern remote territories, which provide all of it.
    Ask where we have oil, gas, gold ...
    Or aluminum plants ...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 11: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Ilshat
      Ask where we have oil, gas, gold ...
      Or aluminum plants ...

      Everything is where it was ... but aluminum plants are no longer with us,
      providing them with an energy complex created soviet the state - also not with us.
      Oil, gas, gold are in question.
      Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 2 August 2020 12: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.

        In this regard, I fully agree with you.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 21: 44 New
        0
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.

        I could have put 10 pluses.
  • apro
    apro 2 August 2020 09: 21 New
    -25
    Quote: Alekseev
    but to ensure that enterprises operate effectively

    Here is who would explain this to the Russian rulers ...
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 2 August 2020 12: 51 New
      +3
      Don't be a plug in every hole. Your daddy is notoriously obscene and does not know what to do next
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 10 New
    +1
    in general it is very different. factor of. you can screw it to those who do not go there.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
      +4
      With the Smolensk region, yes, but not at times, but with the Lipetsk region it is about the same
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 33 New
        0
        this is said by my relatives who moved here. the standard of living is not only about prices in stores.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 09: 47 New
          +1
          Well, it's hard to argue with that. Here you are right hi
  • Ilshat
    Ilshat 2 August 2020 08: 18 New
    +5
    Quote: apro
    the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian

    Laughed.
    Oha, with an average salary of less than 20 thousand for our ...
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 08: 26 New
      -22
      Quote: Ilshat
      Laughed.
      Oha, with an average salary of less than 20 thousand for our ...

      And in small Russian towns, how much? And the level of prices? I'll laugh too ...
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 2 August 2020 08: 28 New
        +1
        No idea.
        We don't have small Russian towns here.
        But you should not compare the minimum and average.
        1. apro
          apro 2 August 2020 08: 30 New
          -18
          Quote: Ilshat
          But you should not compare the minimum and average.

          But people live on this money, support families ...
          1. Ilshat
            Ilshat 2 August 2020 08: 32 New
            11
            So the Bantustans somehow live on the minimum wage.
            What are you for?
            Minimum and average are different concepts, comparing them is a mistake!
            What's not clear here?
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 23: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: Ilshat
          No idea.
          We don't have small Russian towns here.
          But you should not compare the minimum and average.

          It makes sense to compare the minimum and average, but taking into account the decile coefficients.
          From January 2020 the minimum wage:
          Belarus - 375 RUB RB = 11359 RUB RF,
          Russia - 12130 RUB RF.
          The difference is not great.
          Average salary:
          Belarus - 1119.1 rubles RB = 33898 rubles RF
          Russia - ~ 50000 RUB RF.
          The difference is already greater.
          And here are the decile coefficients of wage differentiation:
          Belarus - ~ 4.1,
          Russia - from 9 (HSE) to 17 (the range is associated with the turbidity of the Russian economy).

          PS It is considered that the political instability of countries occurs when the decile coefficient exceeds 7 times the level.
          Draw your own conclusions about the natural or artificial nature of the crisis of power in Belarus. hi
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
    -26
    Quote: apro
    the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why ????

    Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 08: 25 New
      -21
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

      And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 29 New
        -17
        Quote: apro
        And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...

        And I do not speak for the Russians, I speak for the state.
      2. uladzimir.surko
        uladzimir.surko 2 August 2020 08: 44 New
        17
        And when did Minsk live within its means, in the USSR? If I’m Minsky from Grushevka!
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 23: 39 New
        0
        Quote: apro
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

        And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...

        And there and within our means. Average (like t 'across the hospital yes )
        For some reason, everyone bypasses the decile issues and the comparison of the volumes of export and offshorization of capital.
    2. Inorus
      Inorus 2 August 2020 08: 58 New
      11
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Quote: apro
      the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why ????

      Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

      Of course ... which Russia takes))
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    4. cmax
      cmax 2 August 2020 10: 39 New
      +5
      The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all! It is not necessary to live and eat up credit money.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 10: 44 New
        -5
        Quote: cmax
        The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all!

        You better write how effective our Russian economy is.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 23: 42 New
        -2
        Quote: cmax
        The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all! It is not necessary to live and eat up credit money.

        Give, PLZ, an example of a committed and not returned loan.
  • bar
    bar 2 August 2020 08: 30 New
    21
    Belarus, unlike Russia, has no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average Russian ... that's why ????

    Well, first of all, it's still different. And secondly, precisely because oil and gas, and bad loans with subsidies to support your pants, you get exactly from the Russian bastards. And you sell the products of your remaining factories to them.
    How old are you when you have to explain such basic things?
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 2 August 2020 23: 53 New
      -1
      "-" for this already:
      Quote: bar
      small factories
      .
      BelAZ working for export (one of three in the world) - a factory?
      Talking about others, I sense, is useless - blinkers will interfere with perception. hi
    2. o Fortuna
      o Fortuna 3 August 2020 10: 59 New
      0
      For help and dislike
  • Gost2012
    Gost2012 2 August 2020 08: 49 New
    +5
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And what is the result for citizens?

    Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

    about the middle level - a lie or a stream of faith?
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  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 2 August 2020 10: 32 New
    +8
    Because Russia constantly provides loans, and discounts for gas and oil. The debt to Russia is over 9 billion with a GDP of just over 16 billion. And they are forgiven regularly.
  • Terrible
    Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 10: 44 New
    +6
    Quote: apro
    Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is neither gas nor oil

    There is a lot of oil. It is hard to get and not very good, but it is.

    Quote: apro
    not large deposits of minerals

    At least the largest reserves of potash fertilizers on the planet. Within the limits of 5 leaders for sure.

    Quote: apro
    and the average standard of living of the Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why

    Because the collective farm Fuhrer ruined everything. Even oil refining has become unprofitable for him. OIL. Our factories producing alcohol and alcohol have become unprofitable. WE HAVE. During a pandemic, when alcohol is also needed for an antiseptic!

    Now he got into the banking sector and kills her with her collective farm demands and undermining her reputation!

    Quote: K-612-O
    MAZ finally fell under the Germans

    He dies out of his mouth, the Germans don't need him. In debt as in silk.
  • nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 2 August 2020 11: 17 New
    +3
    in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ... and the average standard of living of Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of Russian

    Yes, therefore, my dear .... that Russia sells these resources to Bulbostan at low prices .... how long do you think the old man will sit in the armchair if (hypothetically) Russia banned Belarus in all directions? ...
  • Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 2 August 2020 11: 19 New
    +7
    Quote: apro
    in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ..

    Exactly! There are no ICBMs, no nuclear weapons, no APCR and submarines, no cosmodromes and launches of LV and AES, no GLONAS - nothing!
    Therefore, about useful and not very minerals - better shut up. And about the standard of living too. When Russia paid the external debt of the Union for all the union fraternity, Ukraine and Belarus flourished ...
    Then everyone was fine, except us. But now everyone suddenly wanted to use our bowels for free ...
    Not a bad idea, and all the habits are like those of the brothers, not brothers!
  • Andr_38
    Andr_38 2 August 2020 11: 21 New
    +6
    Quote: apro

    Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia

    "Russia" with a lowercase letter - is it a typo, or are you simply illiterate, or is it a principled position?
    1. Inorus
      Inorus 2 August 2020 11: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: Andr_38
      Quote: apro

      Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia

      "Russia" with a lowercase letter - is it a typo, or are you simply illiterate, or is it a principled position?

      This is not a misprint, in all his comments Russia is with a small letter. But ukroina with a big ... it's just a Russophobe
      1. Andr_38
        Andr_38 2 August 2020 11: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Inorus

        This is not a misprint, in all his comments Russia is with a small letter. But ukroina with a big ... it's just a Russophobe

        I agree with the characteristics. This is confirmed by all his writings.
  • d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 3 August 2020 10: 40 New
    0
    Are you pretending or what? In Russia, most of the people are neither directly nor indirectly related to oil and gas or minerals. How else should they live?
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 3 August 2020 10: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: apro
    Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

    There is a deposit of money in Belarus. smile
    ... from 2000 to 2010, the level of annual financial support of Belarus or the shortfall of income of the Russian Federation in our economic relations ranged from hundreds of millions of dollars to 2-3 billion, and now it is 5-6 billion per year
    © Interview with Russian Ambassador to Belarus Mikhail Babich to RIA Novosti on March 14, 2019.
  • Ilshat
    Ilshat 2 August 2020 07: 45 New
    13
    For many years I have not seen MAZs on the roads ...
    And how many once was ...
    And they were praised!
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 54 New
      +5
      There are MANs who assemble there, but MAZs themselves and, in principle, do less.
  • Zeev
    Zeev zeev 2 August 2020 07: 52 New
    22
    I come from an industrial city in Belarus. I can tell you exactly how "Father" has kept the factories and production. Food industry enterprises were sold to foreign investors, a garment factory was closed, leaving one atelier for custom tailoring from production, a mirror factory and a weighing plant were closed, the river port and ship repair workshops were closed, the machine-building plant is breathing in incense from a three-day working week, the rubber products factory is breathing in incense with a three-day workweek, a tire mill (where my brother works) is currently undergoing massive layoffs, throwing people on unpaid leave, and shutting down several production lines. Belarusian factories and manufactures are absolutely uncompetitive due to low quality of products and high prices for products, they can exist only due to state subsidies, and the Belarusian economy is in a stable deep peak.
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 07: 59 New
      -12
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      I come from an industrial city in Belarus.

      Nice to hear. I have the same town ... but nothing that remains from Soviet times. not left. from the word at all ... even the foundation blocks were pulled out ..
      1. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov 2 August 2020 09: 45 New
        10
        Well, what kind of gag are you barking on Russians? The Russians did that too, right?
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 03 New
      18
      Here, some of you will not understand at all how much Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises, which would bring results in terms of quality and volume of products, but no, he cut it all off. And then he flirted with the Chinese who do not need Belarusian competitiveness in their grave. But the Russians are to blame
      1. apro
        apro 2 August 2020 08: 12 New
        -23
        Quote: K-612-O
        how many Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises,

        Dear ... how old are you ... and where do you live and what do you do ...
        Effective Russian managers ... well, well, market conditions ... I have no other words other than abusive ones. With my memory, several construction companies have successfully gone bankrupt, and now they are milking another enterprise ... eternal bankruptcies ... except to withdraw money can do nothing.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 33 New
          10
          Only bankruptcy began as soon as But father squeezed out Russian companies. Why?
          1. apro
            apro 2 August 2020 08: 51 New
            -25
            Quote: K-612-O
            Only the bankruptcy began

            I'm talking about Russia ... about my town.
            1. Inorus
              Inorus 2 August 2020 09: 08 New
              13
              Quote: apro
              Quote: K-612-O
              Only the bankruptcy began

              I'm talking about Russia ... about my town.
              but why do you write Russia with a small letter .... then?
              1. Slavs
                Slavs 2 August 2020 12: 06 New
                0
                Quote: Inorus
                but why do you write Russia with a small letter .... then?

                Yes, he is from Ukraine ... Out of habit he writes ..))
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              3. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 21: 52 New
                +2
                Quote: apro
                I know ... why ... and because of this I have a persistent aversion to the Russian bourgeois ...

                The bourgeois has no nationality.
            3. K-612-O
              K-612-O 2 August 2020 10: 02 New
              0
              You can’t tell more precisely
          2. K-612-O
            K-612-O 2 August 2020 09: 50 New
            +4
            And talking about Belarus, you here from the sect of witnesses of communism stand up for Butler
            1. apro
              apro 2 August 2020 09: 57 New
              -17
              Quote: K-612-O
              And talking about Belarus, you here from the sect of witnesses of communism stand up for Butler

              And what does it change? We will have to shed blood because of these monsters, as in Ukraine, and kill our brothers Belarusians
            2. K-612-O
              K-612-O 2 August 2020 10: 01 New
              10
              Shit, how interesting, have you already gathered to kill the Belarusians ?!
              I wonder why it would be? How is it in Ukraine? Oh well. The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.
              Now it is clear why Russia write with a small letter, the saucepan does not press your head?
            3. apro
              apro 2 August 2020 10: 03 New
              -16
              Quote: K-612-O
              The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.

              Well done ... I moved in ... just it is not clear what these fighters were doing on the territory of Belarus. The Russians say they were passing through ... but I don't believe ...
              It grows older again ... fix it ..
            4. K-612-O
              K-612-O 2 August 2020 10: 06 New
              +6
              Everything is clear with you. Forward to a bright European future to the Poles as laborers and Lithuanians in the Untermensch.
            5. apro
              apro 2 August 2020 10: 08 New
              -16
              Quote: K-612-O
              Everything is clear with you. Forward to a bright European future to the Poles as laborers and Lithuanians in the Untermensch.

              The bright Soviet future will suit me, and you Russians are definitely striving to become a farm laborer for a good master ...
          3. Inorus
            Inorus 2 August 2020 11: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: apro
            Quote: K-612-O
            The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.

            Well done ... I moved in ... just it is not clear what these fighters were doing on the territory of Belarus. The Russians say they were passing through ... but I don't believe ...
            It grows older again ... fix it ..

            You my friend for the censor, what did you forget at VO)))
          4. Igor Golov
            Igor Golov 2 August 2020 11: 35 New
            +1
            What's the point in lying about these people? And the meaning of the coups in Belarus to arrange?
        2. New
          New Year day 2 August 2020 18: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: K-612-O
          Belarusians should deal with their father themselves

          They will figure it out, do not hesitate. It will be like in Ukraine. You will still regret
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 3 August 2020 00: 07 New
    -2
    Quote: K-612-O
    Here, some of you will not understand at all how much Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises, which would bring results in terms of quality and volume of products, but no, he cut it all off.

    This is the front of the gingerbread; the reverse of which they are silent - cutting off the social sector, throwing it into unemployment and exporting capital to offshore.
    Correctly chopped off.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 2 August 2020 11: 25 New
    +6
    I can tell you specifically how I "kept the factories and production"

    What a horror, what a nightmare! And tell you, for example, what happened to the production in my hometown in Ukraine? Well, that you would at least understand a little what you are writing about.
    In general, nothing at all remained from the sewing enterprises and the Progress shoe factory. The Kineskop plant - 10 thousand jobs - was closed in the mid-90s, now its territory is being built up. Factory "Electron" (made TVs) - this one is still "alive". Has some kind of production site outside the city, has produced pieces of 4 trams for the city .. over the past 15 years, probably.
    The bus plant is also 10 thousand workers - it closed in the mid-decade, eked out some kind of existence until the mid-2000s, produced a couple of trolleybuses for the city. Now its territory is already fully built up.
    The Polaron plant - producing semiconductor technology - was closed in the 90s, the territory is being built up (the place was far from the center, because only now)
    A bunch of factories producing electronics - Lorta, NiRti, 237 plants - have been closed since the 90s and built up.
    The auto-loader plant is closed, built up.
    The plant "Selmash" - closed in the 90s is now being built up.

    The only working plant - "spark", made light bulbs .. somewhere outside the city.

    In general, everything was closed 25 years ago. For non-effectiveness. And in Belarus, your brother is still working at some plant there .. This is what is called keeping production. The fact is that if it exists at least in some form, then it can still be reformed and made somewhat modern and profitable and fit into the modern economy. But this is only if it is still there.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 08 New
    14
    don't be bullshit. all these quirks began with the fact that he wanted more. saved MAZ? no one saves production by losing the main client and ruining production three times. Russians bought it all. for money. much money. Why are you posting this illiterate pathos?
  • bar
    bar 2 August 2020 08: 26 New
    23
    Because you have to deal with Russians ...

    Soon you will have to deal not with evil Russians, but with kind and fluffy striped ones. You will be asking them for loans and subsidies to support your pants. But it is unlikely that it will work out, you have nothing to give them in return, Ukrainians and Poles supply them with russophobia in abundance, and you have nothing else, unlike the same Ukraine.

    But he kept the factories and production ...

    It's not for long. Without your own raw materials, you will not produce anything. And you cannot sell what you have produced. Other than the evil Russians, the products of your saved factories are of no use to anyone. And in Russia it is already quite "import substituted" thanks to the bangs of your father. Will you pick strawberries in Poland if the Ukrainians, who have been working there for a long time, will allow you.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 08: 46 New
    -2
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

    Because you have to deal with Russians ...
    But he kept the factories and production ...

    Not at all because he is dealing with Russians. But because the Belarusian bourgeoisie have constant conflicts of interest with the Russian bourgeoisie. As for me, these creatures (Chubais, Potanins and the like) have no nationality at all. I am sincerely convinced that the Belarusian people do not and cannot have claims against the Russian people and vice versa.
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 2 August 2020 08: 49 New
      +9
      Belarusian bourgeoisie are Lukashenka's nomenclature. Relatives, friends, friends of friends. There is practically no independent business.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 09: 50 New
        -2
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        Belarusian bourgeoisie are Lukashenka's nomenclature. Relatives, friends, friends of friends. There is practically no independent business.

        Do you think we have in Russia? "Peripheral capitalism" is the same everywhere.
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 2 August 2020 10: 17 New
          +2
          You still have an independent business. Not large, there are also "not random" people, but medium and small still remain. And in Belarus only small firms remained
      2. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 2 August 2020 18: 42 New
        0
        You say about Israel the apartheid state. Clannishness Russian-speaking in general are slaves and they are all afraid to say that they pissed their lives having arrived in Israel. A man if not a Jew cannot marry in the country. If you remind Israel that he is a totalitarian state, then immediately the Holocaust, the Holocaust. it was not then, but most of the inhabitants are Arabs and immigrants from North Africa who did not hear about the Holocaust
    2. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 08: 53 New
      -12
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      I am sincerely convinced that the Belarusian people do not and cannot have claims against the Russian people and vice versa.

      I absolutely agree with you, the national bourgeoisie will sell for grandmother and own mother ...
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 08: 56 New
      10
      The peoples do not, I myself have relatives living in Gomel. But there have been a lot of questions about bam lately.
      By the way, for some reason, the Chinese bourgeoisie for some reason does not interfere with welcoming ours instead of ours, despite the fact that everything where China invests becomes Chinese.
      1. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov 2 August 2020 09: 50 New
        +5
        Do the peoples have? We may not have. And many in Belarus sincerely believe that the Russians, who support him, are to blame for the election of Lukashenko. Those who say so are no longer Belarusians?
        1. Terrible
          Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 16: 28 New
          0
          Quote: Igor Golov
          And many in Belarus sincerely believe that the Russians, who support him, are to blame for the election of Lukashenko.

          No, they sincerely believe that without the support of the Russian Federation, he would have flown out of the chair after a long time ago. The protests of the dissatisfied are one thing, but the riot caused by the complete collapse of the economy is another, this one cannot be dispersed. And so he was on huge loans and pulled to the last. Now the Chinese are fluttering a bit, but it's even worse. They will take away Kaliyka for non-payment
        2. Uncle Izya
          Uncle Izya 2 August 2020 18: 43 New
          -1
          They don’t think there’s anything, but what to do, the security forces will roll it into the asphalt
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 2 August 2020 10: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: K-612-O
        The peoples do not, I myself have relatives living in Gomel. But there have been a lot of questions about bam lately.
        By the way, for some reason, the Chinese bourgeoisie for some reason does not interfere with welcoming ours instead of ours, despite the fact that everything where China invests becomes Chinese.

        I really do not like the fact that in many posts, in topics about Belarus, ethnic strife between Russians and Belarusians is kindled. If you look back, you can remember similar srachs between Russians and Ukrainians.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 10: 44 New
          +4
          And where are the peoples and tricks of the bulb with a mustache? I myself have relatives in Belarus and many acquaintances. Here the question is that bam right now confronts Russians with Belarusians and not for the first time.
          Especially if he gives the guys out to the Sumerians.
  • Gost2012
    Gost2012 2 August 2020 08: 47 New
    +8
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

    Because you have to deal with Russians ...
    But he kept the factories and production ...

    mantras and rituals about preserved factories give out the possession of information at the level of intuitive clairvoyance.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 2 August 2020 09: 15 New
    +4
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

    Because you have to deal with Russians ...
    But he kept the factories and production ...

    So let him deal with the Israelis .. He kept the factories and production for himself beloved ... But father of the Byalorians .. Father of peoples, of all times and peoples.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 2 August 2020 09: 43 New
    +5
    Quote: apro
    Because you have to deal with Russians ...

    Are you not Russian? What then keeps (and for a long time) on the damned Russian forum winked
  • APASUS
    APASUS 2 August 2020 10: 24 New
    +7
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

    Because you have to deal with Russians ...
    But he kept the factories and production ...

    Now in Ukraine, Russians are not honored, more and more Americans and Europeans rule! People ride in oil, they don't come out of resorts, not life, but raspberries !!!
  • maykl8
    maykl8 2 August 2020 07: 26 New
    14
    Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
    Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

    What did they do? Lived in a sanatorium, did not drink vodka, behaved politely? Working for a PMC is not a crime. It is possible to detain them for rape, because they also have genitals, IMHO.
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 07: 30 New
      -31
      Quote: maykl8
      What did they do?

      A great excuse ... how many years and everything works ... why are we, we are not ...
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
        11
        Quote: apro
        A great excuse ... how many years and everything works ... why are we, we are not ...

        And when else was this "excuse" used?

        Since they acted so calmly, it can be assumed that they used Belarus as a transshipment base not for the first time, but before where and why they were flying, nobody was interested. And now "no Istanbul, the elder brother is silent."
        Where is the evidence that it was the elder brother who sent the men to Belarus? Continuous thinking up. Very European.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 34 New
        +9
        so they are exactly what no che) no che) name at least one of their actions that gives you the opportunity to talk about some kind of their fault? anyone?
    2. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 2 August 2020 08: 50 New
      -5
      It's a crime to work for a PMC. Both under Russian and Belarusian laws, mercenary activity is a criminal offense.
      1. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov 2 August 2020 09: 51 New
        +7
        And this was not a PMC. And the name was generally published in the Western PRESS. Work your way up professionalism!
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 2 August 2020 12: 53 New
          -1
          Well, yes, Belarus is in the West from Russia, so the Belarusian press is WESTERN.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 2 August 2020 09: 53 New
        +6
        Only in Russia there are no PMCs, there are private security companies, some of which provide a very wide range of services, including abroad, guarding the same tankers.
    3. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 2 August 2020 09: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: maykl8
      Working for a PMC is not a crime.

      Actually a crime. There are no PMCs in the Russian Federation, but there are state structures and organized criminal groups. Our laws are like that. Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. From 3 to 15, all PMC members. From three years old to private, and up to fifteen organizers. Yeah.
      Actually, the whole problem is due to the fact that in Russia laws are not binding on everyone. If I decide to go somewhere to kill for money, they will jail me. If I decide to send others, then they will again go to prison, but the term will be much more solid. Well, if caught naturally. But if there are certain connections, then why not?
      If the Russian Federation had normal legislation on PMCs, then a company representative with a bunch of documents would have been in Minsk long ago. With contracts and customer coordinates, contracts with employees, route, etc. etc. And Lukash now would not be pompously speaking from the rostrum, but would scratch his turnips wondering how not to be included in the lists of international terrorists involved in mass kidnappings.
      And since we do not live according to laws, but according to personal instructions and permissions, the guys are now in such a position that they cannot even say directly where and why they are going. For they automatically turn into criminals, even according to our laws, according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and according to international laws, if they do not fall on the same level with terrorists, then they are very close to them.
      And if you get to the root of the problem, then the main fault lies with those who began to have fun with PMCs, without bothering at least some kind of legislative framework. For when hundreds of militants (yes, this is the official status of the Wagnerites) cut across Asia and Africa, there is no question at all whether they will be accepted or not. The only question is who, when and where will decide to play on this topic, and nothing more. We drove ourselves into this situation, yeah.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 2 August 2020 10: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Actually, the whole problem is due to the fact that in Russia laws are not obligatory for everyone.
        "Nicely" lying, as always.

        Quote: Lannan Shi
        If I decide to send others, then they will again go to prison, but the term will be much more solid. Well, if caught naturally.
        Don't worry, anonymized nicknames will be canceled and you will definitely be caught. Be patient a little.

        Quote: Lannan Shi
        If I decide to go somewhere to kill for money, they will jail me.
        Again all "beautifully" are mistaken winked . For if I decide not will give, and if it's real where to kill for money, do not worry either - corpses are not planted no

        Quote: Lannan Shi
        We drove ourselves into this situation, yeah.
        yeah. And when did your family have a different conclusion? It is not difficult to guess what is the name of the culprit and, of course, with a capital letter, вyou will write crying
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 2 August 2020 08: 47 New
    -4
    You should have covered these three, not 33 ... Wrong in numbers
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 2 August 2020 10: 59 New
      -1
      MINSK, July 27 - RIA Novosti. The candidate for the presidency of Belarus Svetlana Tikhanovskaya answered the question about the ownership of Crimea.
      “This is a very painful question. This issue divides people and pushes their heads together when they start discussing it. Can I say, as is customary to say, as is customary in our country and according to international law, that Crimea is legally Ukrainian, but in fact Russian? And don't torture me anymore, "said Tikhanovskaya on the air.
      1. New
        New Year day 2 August 2020 18: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Tank jacket
        to the question about the ownership of Crimea

        How did Gref answer?
    2. Alexga
      Alexga 2 August 2020 11: 19 New
      +3
      These must be protected and protected. According to the scenario of "color" revolutions, there must be a sacred sacrifice to show the bloody regime. No matter how any of them become this victim.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 2 August 2020 11: 44 New
        -3
        These three litters pose a serious threat to the sovereignty of Belarus and Russia. As for the sacred sacrifice, I agree.
  • Igor Golov
    Igor Golov 2 August 2020 09: 44 New
    +8
    Who proved that the coup was being prepared by the Russians? This is still only the speculation of a person who has gone out of his mind as the permanent Bulbofuehrer of Belarus.
  • Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 2 August 2020 13: 06 New
    +1
    AHL behaves with Russia as the Russian leadership allows itself to behave.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 2 August 2020 16: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: apro
    Quote: Observer2014
    You better return the guys HOME.

    Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
    Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

    Oleg, do you know:
    The Russian Foreign Ministry reported that the detainees were in transit through Minsk to Istanbul and had all the necessary documents in their hands. The logistics were provided by a Belarusian company... The interpretation of the situation by the Belarusian side does not stand up to criticism, the Foreign Ministry added.

    Whether Lukashenka was aware of this setup, or was it the work of his image-makers before the elections, it doesn't matter anymore. The farce ended with a clumsy clown. It will not work to live off cheap Russian oil and gas. Eat American LNG, just don't let American biolaboratories visit you, you will make money like the Chinese, Kazakhs and many others. A free Russian vaccine saved Africa, and after the epidemic of fever, the dirty biological laboratory quickly collapsed, everyone dropped and flew away.
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha 2 August 2020 07: 09 New
    24
    After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

    And this is what? PMC employees do not seem to belong to the military. Or is he talking about "little green men"? So they don't seem to ask permission laughing
  • Baloo
    Baloo 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
    +6
    After a symmetrical answer at the customs office of Lukashenka and the shock from the GDP, an epiphany came. Deal with, deal with those who got you into this quarrel. 50/50 that Lukashenka needed it to strengthen the regime before the elections. Afraid of being rolled. I do not think that the Maidan of the Belarusian spill will happen again, but .... Think dad, think. A neighbor is closer to a relative, as the Tatars say.
  • il-z
    il-z 2 August 2020 10: 16 New
    0
    Most likely this farce was an idea of ​​Kolya's half-brother, who heads the republican KGB. If it is true infa that the detainees had to fly to Libya through Turkey to protect the oil infrastructure facilities of the PNS, then they considered that the Russian government would not stand up for them, because supports Haftar.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 2 August 2020 12: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: il-z
      Most likely this farce was an idea of ​​Kolya's half-brother, who heads the republican KGB. If it is true infa that the detainees had to fly to Libya through Turkey to protect the oil infrastructure facilities of the PNS, then they considered that the Russian government would not stand up for them, because supports Haftar.

      Brother Kolya has neither ear nor snout to the KGB ...
  • mavrus
    mavrus 2 August 2020 14: 28 New
    +1
    Who was this idiotic demarche designed for before the elections?
    To the west? It did not work that way, the rhetoric did not change at all, for them ... as it was, it remains - "The last dictator of Europe."
    Money and cookies have already been invested in the "Maidan" after his "re-election" and no one is going to call them back.
    For Belarusians? So there they all decided for a long time ... Whoever is with Old Man, he is with Old Man. And the opposition believes that all this clowning was started only in order to further tie the security officials with a common crime, before the upcoming (after the "elections") protest actions.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 3 August 2020 11: 09 New
    -1
    Why such hysteria? Personal interests hurt?
    After all, they are paid for, which means that the interest is private and not state
  • svp67
    svp67 2 August 2020 06: 48 New
    27
    Lukashenko said that many facts are "interesting":
    I see our older brothers are silent. They no longer shout that they sent these guys to Istanbul. There was no Istanbul and could not be, as it turned out in practice.

    And the statements of the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia Naryshkin and Putin at our Security Council, he FIRSTLY does not want to hear? Maybe it's time to rest ...
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 06: 52 New
      29
      First he wins the bank, then he screws up our citizens and everyone is to blame for him.
      We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 August 2020 06: 53 New
        21
        Quote: K-612-O
        We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

        Until the border has been closed ... it will not work, they will still wind up ...
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 06: 55 New
          15
          Lukashenka's oak was cut down
          And the roof leaked then -
          KGB targets got
          And it began in a madhouse in the country.
          Pompeo calls - the song starts,
          And in the Kremlin - he says a fairy tale.
          There are miracles: there Wagner wanders,
          The mercenary sits on the branches.
          There on unknown paths
          Traces of unseen zmagars,
          Enemies around on chicken legs -
          There is pre-election PR.
          There a glitch and a share of visions are full,
          Waves on the Belarusian Sea.
          And thirty-three from PMCs
          They come out of the line
          On the sandy shore by Thursday.
          Their uncle is with them - Shoigu.
          There Kolya Korolyovitch
          Accompanies the formidable king.
          There in the clouds before the people
          Through forests, across the seas
          The basin covers the ruble.
          There are shrimps in the dungeon,
          And sprats serve them roughly.
          There is a barge with Kostroma naphtha
          It goes, floats by itself -
          Do not leave your cousin:
          "Let's paddle Ukraine!"
          He will conduct exercises with NATO
          After all, he believes in the USA sacredly.
          “Well, what are the debts?
          Who should - all enemies!
          Vova, Putin, pamagi! "
          He will sit on three chairs
          Will avoid punishment.
          This is what he originally thought
          But the sad end came ...
          Our Luka wastes over the bulb
          Though Belarus ... but Russia smells!
          And I was there, and I drank honey;
          Luka could not stand the somersault,
          Before him is a broken trough ...
          He told me his tales. [Max Chepay]
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 2 August 2020 07: 05 New
            0
            К-612-О (Andrey) Thanks to Max Chapay hi . What is all so allegorical. And no specifics. Probably wants to be a predictor? laughing Well, let this Max speak on literary sites. Chtoli. It’s immediately obvious that such a literary talent is lost. Under A.S. Pushkin, this kind of talent is needed to mow down. yes :
            1. K-612-O
              K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 18 New
              +5
              Don't you understand the sarcasm and irony? And what does the poet's innuendo and talent have to do with it?
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: K-612-O
        We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

        And the faster the better
        He rushes to the elections more and more
        1. halpat
          halpat 2 August 2020 08: 09 New
          12
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: K-612-O
          We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

          And the faster the better
          He rushes to the elections more and more

          He is pissing and hysterical, and this makes him “brave” like a cornered rat. Hence the actions beyond adequacy.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 2 August 2020 08: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Halpat
            He pisses and hysteria

            For ten years already.
            But now he understands that the kirdyk comes to his power and therefore it already reaches recklessness
      3. Kisa
        Kisa 2 August 2020 07: 39 New
        +3
        hmm and who will be worse from this? Pompeo or Bolton who are frequent visitors to Minsk? or the American consul who returned to Minsk that year for the first time since 2008 ..... ???
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 49 New
          +9
          No one is better not worse. We must toughly protect our citizens, and not wipe off after every quirk of the potato dad
        2. Igor Golov
          Igor Golov 2 August 2020 10: 05 New
          +4
          It will be worse for Belarus and Belarusians. Lukashenko fulfills the demands of the Americans.
    2. vavilon
      vavilon 3 August 2020 13: 15 New
      0
      If we are going to retire so only together with ours.
  • Dave36
    Dave36 2 August 2020 06: 50 New
    -8
    Ah ah and we will not know the truth ... everyone lies.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 August 2020 06: 50 New
    +9
    After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.
    What a goof! They are private individuals, albeit with a specific military. preparation.
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 August 2020 06: 54 New
      12
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What a goof! They are private individuals, albeit with a specific military. preparation.

      He doesn't care anymore, he is at such a height that he hears only himself ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 August 2020 06: 56 New
        +8
        Quote: svp67
        He doesn't care anymore, he is at such a height that he hears only himself ...
        Capercaillie on the current. request
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 2 August 2020 07: 35 New
          +6
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Capercaillie on the current.

          So this is how the wood grouses are beaten!
      2. The comment was deleted.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 17 New
      -5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

      He has nothing else to do how to give permission?
      Let him sort out the potatoes !!!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 August 2020 06: 52 New
    +8
    At the daddy's roof specifically "drove off" ... He will play out in conspiracy theories. Guys clearly have nothing to do with it. Why did he start all this? He will not answer himself ... at first he was scared, but now he fusses, does not know how to keep his face.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 August 2020 07: 11 New
      +3
      Mountain shooter (Eugene) Today, 06:52 NEW
      0
      At the daddy's roof specifically "drove off" ... He will play out in conspiracy theories. Guys clearly have nothing to do with it. Why did he start all this? Will not answer myself... at first he was scared, but now he fusses, does not know how to save his face.
      Lukashenka has elections on his nose - 09.08.20/XNUMX/XNUMX Full post below.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... Why did he start all this? FROM

      ELECTIONS,
      Russia intervened
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 2 August 2020 06: 54 New
    +5
    Old Man decided to deal with Russia in an adult way, like: Did you want to remove me? I became very bad smile
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 22 New
      -1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Became completely bad

      How many years the power strikes in the head
      Yes, and it's time to attach a son to his place
  • Nikolai Kotsofana
    Nikolai Kotsofana 2 August 2020 06: 55 New
    +7
    You have made porridge now and you are getting out. Prove that they are aimed at destabilizing the pre-election environment.
  • Ilshat
    Ilshat 2 August 2020 06: 55 New
    -3
    Honestly, I don't really catch up with the meaning of this strange story ...
    And what do we care about potato bantustan?
    And I suppose this madman will not dare to plant ours ...
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 2 August 2020 07: 00 New
      +8
      If he doesn’t put him in prison, he’ll give it out, he’ll start with it, and then, as always, he will face it with a brick.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Ilshat
      And to plant ours, I guess this crazy one does not dare

      He himself will not dare, he will give it to Ukraine
  • Dikson
    Dikson 2 August 2020 07: 01 New
    +6
    Do they have it written on their foreheads that they are military personnel? Although why am I .. Prilepin told who they are and where they are fighting .. Trees-winders .. Are our serious offices really so stupid that it is so stupid to plunge out of the blue into such a political guano ..
    1. magnate
      magnate 2 August 2020 07: 53 New
      0
      Rather not "offices", but some "prominent political figures"
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 3 August 2020 13: 20 New
        -1
        it is our oligarchs who support them and primarily protect their interests and not the state
    2. Igor Golov
      Igor Golov 2 August 2020 10: 00 New
      +3
      Your offices are under Lukashenka's close relatives.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 2 August 2020 07: 06 New
    0
    Get the guys back. Put it where it was.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 August 2020 07: 08 New
    +9
    According to Lukashenka, this group had other goals,
    And then why should he listen to his entire nomenclature? Either Lukashenka will be blown away, because he is gaining points for himself before the elections, or the consequences will be fraught with the entire RB.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 2 August 2020 07: 12 New
    +6
    At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

    Has the guilt been proven?
    At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

    What is ???????
    After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

    They entered the military ID ????
    How did he determine that they were military ???
  • codetalker
    codetalker 2 August 2020 07: 13 New
    21
    He's got Soros trying to twist the Maidan, and the eccentric decided to spoil the relationship with his only ally ... Well, this strategist, but the local security forces think where to run when / if the time for "lustration" comes? In Russia? And who will let them in now?
    1. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 11: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: codetalker
      He's got sorrows trying to turn the Maidan

      Do you have anything without Soros / Navalny / Maidan? Completely brainwashed? fool
      Come and see how good life is with an irreplaceable "leader", "father of the nation".

      When in Minsk, without Luka's knowledge, they are afraid to even INFORM people for more than a day that you shouldn't drink water! They assure that everything is fine. For a minute, half of the capital was left without water, and they could not even report that.
      Where people are denied deaths from the screens and ridiculed by doctors, where his proxies answer the same doctors about their salaries "everything suits me, I work well, and you go to work 2, 3, pick berries in the forest there." And you think it's all paid for?

      Of course you think you only have black and white. From the heights of their skyscrapers, MSCs do not see anything.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 2 August 2020 12: 13 New
        0
        Well, in naivety then stop playing ... How does one interfere with the other?
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 07: 15 New
    -29
    The more our corrupt officials scream about Batka's innocence and madness, the less doubts the Kremlin has become obsessed with steering the elections in Belarus. Now Old Man is not sickly inoculated from the Kremlin's desire to steer the elections in Belarus, 28 out of 33 fought in DONBASS and Ukrov is drooling to get them for show trials. It is unlikely that Old Man will drain such a guarantee of non-interference, but the Kremlin has another real chance to dunk its face in the mud. I don’t support, but I don’t condemn Old Man, be in alliance with wolves, howl like a wolf ...
    1. Ilshat
      Ilshat 2 August 2020 07: 22 New
      +2
      The Kremlin is absolutely in that tunnels ?!
      33 (okay, 200 ...) people are going to mess up something in the country under 10 million?
      This is not serious and strange ...
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 August 2020 08: 14 New
      +2
      God ... this is how far one must be to write something like that ... what nafig elections to steer? what is the profit? to bring to power Tikhanovskaya who wants to destroy decades of work? are you out of your mind?
  • demo
    demo 2 August 2020 07: 22 New
    21
    All Luke's words, after the committed actions, are nothing more than the need to play to the end a losing game.
    Having bound himself with such actions, he definitely crossed all permissible limits.
    All he has to do is "raise the stakes in the game."
    But it is obvious to everyone that he does not have the necessary proof of guilt or the presence of intent on the part of the guys who were detained.
    Luke is a bunch of the most base desires and actions aimed at only one thing - to sit "on a chair."
    The country, the people are empty for him.
    The main thing is that, as the parrot of Prince Florisei said, "The State is Me".
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 07: 42 New
    -8
    Quote: demo
    All Luke's words, after the committed actions, are nothing more than the need to play to the end a losing game.
    Having bound himself with such actions, he definitely crossed all permissible limits.
    All he has to do is "raise the stakes in the game."
    But it is obvious to everyone that he does not have the necessary proof of guilt or the presence of intent on the part of the guys who were detained.


    I think you are mistaken about the losing game ... There are chances. Pay attention to the behavior of Old Man during the pseudo-epidemic, compare with the extraordinary unanimity of other preziks - the conclusion: HE DID NOT LISTEN !!! Refused to bankrupt his country and participate in the surrogate replacement of the 3rd World War. It is not difficult to assume that he will not receive the green light in the next elections. And who will be made responsible for removing him? So he has a trump card that neutralizes any attempts by the Kremlin and may well win this game and continue to disobey the owners ...

    Quote: demo
    Luke is a bunch of the most base desires and actions aimed at only one thing - to sit "on a chair." The country, the people are empty for him. The main thing is that, as the parrot of Prince Florisei said, "The State is Me".
    Wah! Show me a prezik who doesn't dream of sitting on his potty forever? Maybe (I'm afraid to say it out loud) The great robber of pensioners and the main Nulland of all times and peoples ??? Dad is a kindergarten bully compared to him, no more ...
    1. apro
      apro 2 August 2020 07: 48 New
      -15
      Quote: Enky
      Pay attention to the behavior of the Old Man during the pseudo-epidemic,

      You can't argue with that. State guy.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 2 August 2020 11: 51 New
        0
        State-owned, state-owned, but their morbidity statistics are one of the worst in Europe.
        1. Terrible
          Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 16: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: alexmach
          only their incidence statistics are one of the worst in Europe.

          And I will note that even according to government statistics, we are the worst, and no one will know the true figures.

          What are the local facts? Even the first-level students stopped doing tests a long time ago. There is no question of the rest.

          Or, as in Poland, with 40.000 infected, there were 900 deaths, and we have 20. And the Russian journalist was thrown out of the country as he showed how many died in one town. More than across the country.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 August 2020 19: 46 New
            -1
            Well, on the other hand, I live in Tallinn, my relatives are in Ukraine, for at least one quarantine month the only flight that flew daily from our airport was Belavia to Minsk. He continued to fly to Kiev, and for quite reasonable money and was almost the only international transport available at that time. Conveniently.

            In addition, the statistics are bad in the neighboring Russia and Poland. Despite the fact that there were quarantine measures in Russia.
    2. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 11: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: Enky
      HE DIDN'T LISTEN !!! Refused to bankrupt his country and participate in the surrogate replacement of the 3rd world

      fool
      Tell this to all those who died from unimposed restrictive measures. Why are there measures, at least official recommendations and a mask regime. And not according to our underestimated statistics, oh not according to her.
      By the way, they worked when the others were standing and you know what? National debt grew by 17% good We celebrate with the whole country that they produced guano that is not needed by anyone, which lies in warehouses.

      Quote: Enky
      Show me a prezik who doesn't dream of sitting on his potty forever?

      That's why there are LAWS. But not with us. We all see what it has led to. We disentangle with full. Another default is on the doorstep.
  • magnate
    magnate 2 August 2020 07: 42 New
    -10
    As the classic said: - vague doubts gnaw at me about the non-involvement of some interested parties laughing

    https://www.belta.by/society/view/sledstvie-obraschaet-vnimanie-na-nestykovki-v-pokazanijah-zaderzhannyh-v-belarusi-rossijan-iz-chvk-400961-2020/
    Wouldn't daddy talk about the involvement of "older brothers"
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 07: 46 New
    -11
    Quote: Ilshat
    The Kremlin is absolutely in that tunnels ?!
    33 (okay, 200 ...) people are going to mess up something in the country under 10 million?
    This is not serious and strange ...

    With proper preparation, they may well stir up, look at Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, with 54 fighters he muddied a third of the country, it is clear that there was an appropriate background and training, but in Ukropland, after all, not 10 million
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 2 August 2020 08: 00 New
      +8
      You asked the question yourself and answered it yourself. In Belarus, everything is completely different. Strelkov would have been packed there in 15 minutes.
    2. Ilshat
      Ilshat 2 August 2020 08: 25 New
      +4
      Not a third, not even close.
      And the atmosphere was extremely favorable.
      I don't see anything like that in a potato gulag.
      As long as the lukashka has a strong terrorist organization, how many of his opponents have "disappeared", etc.
      Other forces are needed here.
      And preparation.
      At least shut off the oil beforehand.
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 2 August 2020 07: 48 New
    +5
    they are the same "Russians" like me Mexican-Jews are furious that Lukashenko kept his KGB agents and we immediately dropped the monument to Dzerzhinsky and almost the entire Eltsin network handed over the country and began to tear the country to pieces who are not too lazy, now there are articles like this
    1. Enky
      Enky 2 August 2020 07: 57 New
      -9
      Here you are hot, only the word Jews should be replaced with Zionists, the difference is very significant ...
      1. nobody111body
        nobody111body 2 August 2020 08: 09 New
        +2
        according to the administration of this site, the word "Jew" belongs to the nation - the word "Zionist" is an insult; although the Jews here constantly insult many with the word "anti-Semite" which they consider literary
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 2 August 2020 07: 58 New
    29
    Anyone who knows a little bit about the Belarusian realities will laugh at the version that 33 heroes came to overthrow Lukashenka. As the President of Belarus correctly noted, these are soldiers. And to overthrow Lukashenka, political strategists and professional revolutionaries are needed. Liver givers and officers' daughters. This is the domain of the USA and its allies.
    My wife's uncle died in Belarus. His relatives sent his wife 300 euros from Germany. She had to go to the KGB and report where and why the money came from. This is an example of control.
    So really the special services of Belarus did not know who these guys were and why they were here. Minsk became a Russian transshipment hub during the pandemic. Is this news for Lukashenka too? If anything, he can only run to Russia. He will still be issued from other places.
  • uladzimir.surko
    uladzimir.surko 2 August 2020 08: 01 New
    +3
    So the question arose to change this to us in Belarus for something !!! ??
    1. Igor Golov
      Igor Golov 2 August 2020 10: 12 New
      +4
      It's your problems. And there is no need for provocations. Just choose the one whom you consider necessary for yourself.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 2 August 2020 08: 08 New
    -10
    Quote: unhappy
    You go on, we understood your message.
    You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they do not have democracy ...

    Congratulations! Have you learned the truth?
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 08: 09 New
    -10
    Quote: Moskovit
    You asked the question yourself and answered it yourself. In Belarus, everything is completely different. Strelkov would have been packed there in 15 minutes.

    Strelkov, with his methods ... I do not argue that Belarus is not Ukroplandia, there is no real split in society, but ... there are always "other" methods ... Whole brigades of hired professional agitators, organizers of demonstrations are rolling around the countries ... Why should we do not send your own? The fighters from DONBASS, it is clear that they are not, but there is always a division of labor and specialization of groups, some ignite the crowd, others wait in ambush - if the agitators are doing well, combat groups are involved. Remember Beitar 93m in Moscow.
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 2 August 2020 08: 10 New
    0
    Belarusian Cart reports. Lukashenka suffered a heart attack a few days ago.
    The press service is silent and hastily looking for old video footage to show the president's activity. All events with his participation were canceled.
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 08: 13 New
    -7
    Quote: codetalker
    He's got the Soros trying to twist the Maidan, and the eccentric decided to spoil relations with his only ally ...

    Hmm, don't you think that in this case "Sorosyats" and "The only ally" are synonymous?
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 08: 16 New
    -6
    Quote: nobody
    according to the administration of this site, the word "Jew" belongs to the nation - the word "Zionist" is an insult; although the Jews here constantly insult many with the word "anti-Semite" which they consider literary

    Damn, you are more to the right of the right ... It’s even strange to me that we haven’t been bombarded with garbage yet - on this site there is usually one independent comment, 2 from trolls.
    1. mag nit
      mag nit 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
      +4
      Even trolls are at a crossroads.
      1. Terrible
        Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 11: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: mag nit
        Even trolls are at a crossroads.

        It was especially funny to compare the comments of the two articles. One about his rating, where “Old Man” was licked from head to toe, and the second, 30 minutes later, about the detention of the same Russians.

        I haven't seen such a quick change of shoes for a long time lol
  • certero
    certero 2 August 2020 08: 20 New
    0
    Let's just say that without Russia Lukashenko will devour the West in a couple of years.
    But this is already clear on. But what the hell is going on with us, I do not understand. The impression is that some kind of power struggle is going on within the establishment, hence all sorts of incomprehensible actions.
  • north 2
    north 2 2 August 2020 08: 23 New
    +6
    Russia lost a lot of time to return Belarus to the Russian Empire. AND
    signals that Lukashenko was against the revival of the new formation of the Russian Empire was full. These are only signals that are visible to everyone. This is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to Russia's actions saving the peoples of Abkhazia and Ossetia from genocide, this is not the recognition of Abkhazia and Ossetia by Belarus as independent
    states, this is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to the actions of Russia saving the Russian world from genocide in
    Crimea, this is the non-recognition of Crimea by Belarus as part of the Russian Federation, after, with the help of a democratic referendum, the inhabitants of Crimea returned these lands and themselves to the new formation of the Russian Empire. So these are just those geopolitical signals that Lukashenka is against the revival
    Russia, which is in plain sight. And how many more are his hidden actions, about which neither
    Putin, neither the Russian Foreign Ministry, nor the news portals. And this is only in geopolitics. How much more in the economy
    and in the financial sphere, how much more in defense, where Lukashenka is trying to twirl everything so that Russia
    it was as difficult as possible or so that Russia would be expensive
    And what will happen if under Lukashenka or without Lukashenka, the United States and NATO scrape together several trillion
    dollars to lure Belarus into NATO. Belarus is not that big in terms of population
    so that the US and NATO do not find these trillions. And this is not the Baltics. For such a foothold
    as the territory of Belarus, NATO will go to any expenses. Only it is necessary that from Belarus they hinted. Of course, then the US and EU will take off their last pants from Belarusians, but who will care,
    the main thing is that next to Smolensk and Bryansk, on the NATO bridgehead in Belarus, there will be
    US troops and missiles. Moreover, the same is true in Ukraine. So Russia lost a lot of time to start acting really returning its lands to the new formation of the Russian Empire, because it saw that Kuchma and Yushchenko and Yanukovych and Poroshenko and Zelensky in Ukraine and Lukashenko in Belarus
    there is against Russia and against the Russian world.
    Already yesterday, during an interview with opposition members during the demonstration, all who gave the interview spoke mostly Belarusian or English. So the grains hostile to Russia
    whom Lukashenka planted there, will already bear fruit, regardless of who will be in power. The same Lukashenka or the opposition candidate. Russia must take effective steps. But only what steps will be effective ...
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 2 August 2020 09: 03 New
      -9
      Dear, Sever / 2. Writing seems to be correct, but without thinking. I understand that we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot , and you get in touch in a fight, well, we'll see.
      You don’t like our language. The question is, why? We also want ... people ... "You know, Sever / 2, I learned to write and read at matchynay move. And if our language is a pernicious grain for Russia, then ... what can we talk about.
      People who go to rallies (permitted by the Law) are oppa for you. And that these are just ordinary people whom Sasha got 3% and in which for 26 years of steering the country, no ways of rapprochement with Russia were found.
      You, all of you stand up for the Russian Empire, and so I tell you, as an imperialist, don't open a stream for someone else's piece.
      And with 33 heroes, I'm sure they will figure it out, no one will tell us the truth, and of course I would not like to hear - ... it's okay, women are still giving birth ... ''
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 2 August 2020 09: 14 New
        -1
        But not at all Russian and I don't care about your mentality.
        But since you live at our expense (yes, not 100%, but enough) so be so kind as to do what we need.
        And do not get out.
        Whoever dines a girl is her and dances.
        If we don’t want it, we don’t get it - pay.
        And they tolerate you for too long.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 2 August 2020 10: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Ilshat
          But not at all Russian and I don't care about your mentality.
          But since you live at our expense (yes, not 100%, but enough) so be so kind as to do what we need.
          And do not get out.
          Whoever dines a girl is her and dances.
          If we don’t want it, we don’t get it - pay.
          And they tolerate you for too long.

          I'm already scared, I'm all ddddrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzhzhzhzhzhzhzhuuuu ...
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    3. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 2 August 2020 16: 38 New
      -3
      Quote: North 2
      to lure Belarus into NATO

      NATO has to pay from 2% of GDP. The Republic of Belarus has no money to pay all the salaries of collective farms, and you mean NATO. Yeah
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 08: 26 New
    -9
    Quote: Leapold
    According to Lukashenko, this group had other goals, and now the task of the Belarusian special services is to clarify these goals.

    I watched the video, these guys have many tattoos, and this speaks about their views ..
    PMCs could at least hire someone with a lot of money .. Here is the goal, to embroil Russia with Belarus. That's the catch! Especially if the liberal media and then, as if on command, raised such a howl .. Father is not stupid enough to detain "Russian citizens" before the elections ..

    Those who are right are kicked more painfully ;-) That's right, Old Man is not as stupid as the liberals IMPASSED us, but there is still a chance that the "Only Ally" was given the go-ahead to replace Old Man ...
  • cniza
    cniza 2 August 2020 08: 26 New
    +4
    At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.


    And what are they to blame, what was the investigation, the court?
  • krops777
    krops777 2 August 2020 08: 27 New
    +1
    Lukashenka said that “he sees no particular interest in preserving Belgazprombank from Gazprom.


    Well, it is understandable always when it comes to money, the AHL has quirks, the only thing that worries me is that the quirks are becoming more and more inadequate, and is everything normal with the psyche of the AHL.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 2 August 2020 08: 33 New
    +3
    There is no point in discussing the route of Belarusian politics ... we just state the TOTAL!
    And for those who planned the route of the "transit of the private security company" there is a big minus. You have to think with your head, and not with something else.
    OUR, now a specific task, our people must be returned HOME !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 August 2020 08: 39 New
      +3
      We will return the people, but what about Belarus? Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 August 2020 09: 07 New
        +6
        Welcome soldier
        The car had to be done even YESTERDAY !!!
        I had to do my own country !!!
        When "our clever guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their own .... Wishlist, and at home we are not as good as it should be !!! WE will always be in flight! After all, examples, consequences around are already in bulk!
        Smart people have already determined and expressed for a long time that flirting "our elite" with other "elites" is obviously a losing option !!! Because the external plays, our enemies, a lot of experienced, RICHER and in the means of influence are not limited in any way and never !!!
        What was the only chance of maintaining good relations ??? No matter how trite it sounds, this is FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES, OUR GREAT COMMON HISTORY !!!
        But for this it was necessary / there was remained an ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE!
        The question is - what, in fact, are we attractive, an example to which the former can seek to join ???
        And I have NO POSITIVE ANSWER!
        That's it!
        For a long time you can talk on this topic, I just don't want to, I'm tired of smearing the obvious on a plate ..... it's obvious to me that at this rate, WE WILL STAY ALONE, surrounded by no friends, at least.
        1. New
          New Year day 2 August 2020 11: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          I had to do my own country !!!
          When "our smart guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their .... Wishlist

          Quote: rocket757
          flirting "our elite" with other "elite", this is obviously a losing option !!!

          gold words! I said this a year or two ago, but the example of Ukraine did not teach the authorities anything. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 August 2020 11: 31 New
            +2
            If you delve into history, it turns out that this is exactly what different wise people said.
            As well as similar events happened before and more than once!
            Nothing fundamental in human society has changed, it's just that events began to happen faster due to the increase in the speed of dissemination of ideas, information ... an age of high speeds, that's the whole difference! soldier
    2. mag nit
      mag nit 2 August 2020 08: 46 New
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      people must be returned HOME !!!
      Reply

      Why go home? They also went to guard something in Turkey, Sudan, Libya. Let Luke let them go and tell them to be met there. As if they did not get lost again.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 August 2020 09: 10 New
        +1
        No difference. This is their choice. If here, at home, there are no official claims to them !!! They must be released and go wherever they want.
        I hope such issues will be resolved according to the law, and not in the way someone wanted.
    3. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 2 August 2020 12: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      There is no point in discussing the route of Belarusian politics ... we just state the TOTAL!
      And for those who planned the route of the "transit of the private security company" there is a big minus. You have to think with your head, and not with something else.
      OUR, now a specific task, our people must be returned HOME !!!

      YOURS have already divided the prepayment, and HOME had to pull them out before the LOGO ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 August 2020 13: 39 New
        0
        High-quality work, high-quality provocation, not diligent workers.
        Remember, shake it on a mustache, how it grit ... if there is someone who has a mustache.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 2 August 2020 08: 36 New
    +3
    I'd like to see how the father will deal with the one who sent them, and then how they will deal with the father.
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 08: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: North 2
    And there were a lot of signals that Lukashenka was against the revival of the new formation of the Russian Empire ... this is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to Russia's actions saving the Russian world in Crimea from genocide, this is the non-recognition of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation by Belarus, after the residents Crimea, these lands and themselves returned to the new formation of the Russian Empire. So these are only those geopolitical signals that Lukashenko is against the revival of Russia, which are in full view of everyone. And how many more are his hidden actions, about which neither
    Putin, no Russian Foreign Ministry, no news portals

    If the Russian world had to be saved where it was, so obviously not in Crimea and not in DONBASS, but in Kiev, does anyone really believe that the preparation for the Maidan was a surprise for the FSB? Then what were they waiting for, they allowed the entire power elite of Ukraine to be recruited and paralyzed ... So they expected to squeeze Crimea against the background of the turmoil ... The revival of the Russian world is not even the last in line, it was not even allowed into this line.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 2 August 2020 08: 45 New
    -2
    Ha. All climb in the comments in front of the daddy into hell.

    I remember the Goblin here, with his eternal "investigation will show" to such a thing.
  • 1536
    1536 2 August 2020 08: 46 New
    +2
    "Here he (the old man) goes to the blue sea,
    He sees a black storm on the sea:
    And the angry waves swelled
    So they walk, so howl and howl.
    He began to click the goldfish.
    A fish came to him, asked:
    "What do you need, older?"
    Her old man with a bow replies:
    “Have mercy, Empress fish!
    What should I do with the damned woman?
    She doesn’t want to be the queen,
    He wants to be the mistress of the sea;
    To live in the Sea of ​​Okiyan,
    That you yourself served her
    And I would have been on her premises. ”
    The fish said nothing
    Just a tail splashed across the water
    And went into the deep sea.
    For a long time by the sea he was waiting for an answer,
    I didn’t wait, I turned back to the old woman -
    Look: again, before him is a dugout;
    On the threshold sits his old woman,
    And before her a broken trough. "
    (A.S. Pushkin, Russian poet)
  • Inorus
    Inorus 2 August 2020 08: 49 New
    +2
    "I see, our older brothers fell silent
    "-You are not a brother to me AHL!
  • Operator
    Operator 2 August 2020 09: 10 New
    -2
    Hike, Rygorych crap in full and turned on the reverse speed.
  • antishefff
    antishefff 2 August 2020 09: 16 New
    13
    Yes, everything is on the surface, Georgia is flourishing without damned Russians, the Baltic jackals are flourishing, now Ukraine has been showing economic miracles for 6 years already, so But Father looks and also wants, for ... Bali these Russians, everyone will be better without them)) )
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 09: 17 New
    -3
    Quote: Moskovit
    So really the special services of Belarus did not know who these guys were and why they were here. Minsk became a Russian transshipment hub during the pandemic. Is this news for Lukashenka too?

    You did not carefully study the course of events or deliberately distort information for those who are not aware of the details. In any state, military transit countries receive close attention from the special services, so there is no need to distort, this particular group aroused keen interest with its non-standard behavior: problems with leaving the Russian Federation at the Russian (NOT Belarusian) border, purchased plane tickets with departure upon arrival at airport and immediately booked hotel rooms, departure of the plane without a group, the group will not fly for another 3 days and check out of the hotel with an attempt to inject misinformation about the final departure and at the same time check into a sanatorium ... About discrepancies during interrogation and data from them phones about the arrival of other groups and there is nothing to say ... The people are surprised as if they had never heard of snipers on the Maidan and Beitar in Moscow in 93 ...
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 2 August 2020 19: 13 New
      +1
      Well, many here have convulsions from the fact that Lukashenka got angry with the subject "Belarus is not a front yard!" How dare he! Ramsey beguiled! Immediately such a screaming crowd of commentators with a disconnected brain. Now, if it turns out that the movement of the groups was coordinated, and Lukashenka made a somersault "out of course," then yell with good obscenities. In the meantime, there is nothing to shout about.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 2 August 2020 09: 23 New
    +3
    A well-conducted provocation, and so on time !!! Yes, how many of them at once !!!
    This is how the flimsy alliances based on agreements between the "elites" are being destroyed!
    This is how ties are broken, faith, memory, brotherly peoples are earned in the mud !!! After all, the generation that remembers and believes is LEAVING !!! And it is being replaced, prepared, received, completely different and with different ideas ... they are also our people, only with completely knocked down landmarks.
    ... We rode at a pace
    We raced in battles
    And "Yablochko" -song
    Kept in the teeth.
    Ah, this song
    Still stores
    Young grass -
    Steppe malachite.

    But the song is different
    About the far land
    Drove my friend
    With him in the saddle.
    He sang, looking around
    Native land:
    "Grenada, Grenada,
    My Granada! ”

    He is this song
    Told by heart ...
    Where did the lad
    Spanish sadness?
    Answer, Aleksandrovsk,
    And Kharkov, answer:
    Long time in spanish
    Did you start singing

    Tell me, Ukraine
    Isn't this rye
    Taras Shevchenko
    Is the daddy lying?
    Where are you from, buddy?
    Your song:
    "Grenada, Grenada,
    My Grenada? ”

    He hesitates with an answer,
    Dreamer Ukrainian:
    - Brother! Grenada
    I found in the book.
    Beautiful name,
    High honor -
    Grenada parish
    In Spain there is!

    I left the hut
    I went to fight
    To land in Grenada
    Peasants give.
    Farewell, dear!
    Goodbye family!
    "Grenada, Grenada,
    My Granada! ”

    We raced dreaming
    Comprehend as soon as possible
    Grammar of the battle -
    Battery language.
    Sunrise rose
    And fell again
    And the horse is tired
    Jump in the steppes.

    But "Bullseye" is a song
    Played squadron
    Bows of suffering
    On the violins of the times ...
    Where, buddy
    Your song:
    "Grenada, Grenada,
    My Grenada? ”

    Pierced body
    The ground has slipped
    Comrade for the first time
    Left the saddle.
    I saw: over the corpse
    The moon has declined
    And dead lips
    They whispered: "Grena ..."

    Yes. To a faraway area
    To the sky-high reach
    My friend left
    And he took the song.
    Since then not heard
    Native land:
    "Grenada, Grenada,
    My Granada! ”

    The detachment did not notice
    Fighter losses
    And "Yablochko" -song
    Finished to the end.
    Only the sky is quiet
    Sliding after a while
    To the sunset velvet
    A tear of rain ...

    New songs
    Invented life ...
    No need guys
    To poke the song
    Don't, don't,
    No, friends ...
    Grenada, Grenada,
    Granada is mine!

    Wonderful song, wonderful words! What would our ancestors say, looking at US? WHAT ARE WE MAKING?
  • Enky
    Enky 2 August 2020 09: 37 New
    -2
    https://www.belta.by/society/view/sledstvie-obraschaet-vnimanie-na-nestykovki-v-pokazanijah-zaderzhannyh-v-belarusi-rossijan-iz-chvk-400961-2020/

    Quote: antishefff
    Yes, everything is on the surface, Georgia is flourishing without damned Russians, the Baltic jackals are flourishing, now Ukraine has been showing economic miracles for 6 years already, so But Father looks and also wants, for ... Bali these Russians, everyone will be better without them)) )

    So I see, and Russia, mother, without damned Georgians, dastardly ukrov and jackals of the Baltic states, is also flourishing - the price of oil collapsed, and we once raised the price of gasoline, schools and hospitals have already closed 50%, when all smart and healthy they are not needed , the retirement age has been raised, I feel immortality is already close, it remains to get rid of Belarus, THEN WE WILL LIVE ...
    1. antishefff
      antishefff 2 August 2020 09: 45 New
      -1
      My dear, nothing will change from your distortions, even if you say at least write on the fence))), how many things have opened and closed, I myself can see very well and all the infa is in the public domain))), speech about the decline is for Pepsiplov, I traveled all over the Southern Federal District and definitely the dynamics are positive, but not because everyone wants everything and immediately does not do a fucking thing, but nevertheless.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 2 August 2020 19: 07 New
        0
        So go on Kruzak drove, or something like that. It's shitty to see through the tint, and to lower the glass - the air conditioner plowed in vain. Are the dynamics positive? - well, if the dynamics of acceleration of the car, yes.
  • Igor Golov
    Igor Golov 2 August 2020 09: 41 New
    +3
    There was a hope that he was healthy and he was ill. The spectacle is generally sad - the Americans make a piece of killed shit out of it on the air.
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 2 August 2020 09: 44 New
    +6
    Quote: rocket757
    Welcome soldier
    The car had to be done even YESTERDAY !!!
    I had to do my own country !!!
    When "our clever guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their own .... Wishlist, and at home we are not as good as it should be !!! WE will always be in flight! After all, examples, consequences around are already in bulk!
    Smart people have already determined and expressed for a long time that flirting "our elite" with other "elites" is obviously a losing option !!! Because the external plays, our enemies, a lot of experienced, RICHER and in the means of influence are not limited in any way and never !!!
    What was the only chance of maintaining good relations ??? No matter how trite it sounds, this is FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES, OUR GREAT COMMON HISTORY !!!
    But for this it was necessary / there was remained an ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE!
    The question is - what, in fact, are we attractive, an example to which the former can seek to join ???
    And I have NO POSITIVE ANSWER!
    That's it!
    For a long time you can talk on this topic, I just don't want to, I'm tired of smearing the obvious on a plate ..... it's obvious to me that at this rate, WE WILL STAY ALONE, surrounded by no friends, at least.

    Let me argue with you ...
    Friends are, were and will be. It's just that many people want that we could not play in the same sandbox.
  • Erema
    Erema 2 August 2020 10: 11 New
    -2
    There is no need to think out too much, I don’t think that Luka is "shaking and rushing about," read "our" media less, he is not that much ""
  • Igor Golov
    Igor Golov 2 August 2020 10: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: Skalendarka
    You understand, we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot, and you will be contacted in a fight, well, we'll see.

    Just like with Lukashenka, yes. Chosen for the promise of a Union State with Russia. When he threw you off with election promises, you chose him again. And then he liked it. You are so careful.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 2 August 2020 11: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Igor Golov
      Quote: Skalendarka
      You understand, we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot, and you will be contacted in a fight, well, we'll see.

      Just like with Lukashenka, yes. Chosen for the promise of a Union State with Russia. When he threw you off with election promises, you chose him again. And then he liked it. You are so careful.

      Those people who chose him in 94 have long since died. Well, and then it was the following: referendums, reworking the Constitution and other crap ... but what can I tell you, you have the same vagabond.
      But now 26 years have passed and suddenly they say to him, Sasha, move over, we want another master, and you play with your grandchildren there, grow watermelons with cybuli, well, smoke a hookah ...
      No, says the tsar Shklovsky, I want more, more, more and ... more and shtob all on the parcels ...
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 2 August 2020 10: 19 New
    -1
    When God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his reason.
    We have an illustrative example.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 August 2020 10: 43 New
    +1
    "Although the details of the case are investigative secrets, Noskevich shared some information. Investigators found inconsistencies in the testimonies of the detainees. Intending to fly to Istanbul via Minsk, the group for some reason drove past the airport and checked into the IBB hotel in Minsk, and then to the Belorusochka sanatorium in Zhdanovichi, where the seats were pre-booked. At the same time, the administration of the hotel, the Russians allegedly said that they were going to the airport. more groups from Russia. "
    I'm also wondering who sent them and for what purpose? The main thing is that Lukashenka does not give them to Ukraine!
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 2 August 2020 10: 53 New
    0
    "We need to deal with those who sent them here ..."
    "Razbiralovka" is too small to wave it against Russia!
    I would drink valerian with vodka in silence and wait for August 9th.
  • Inorus
    Inorus 2 August 2020 11: 27 New
    -1
    Quote: Leapold
    Quote: Inorus
    Ha ... then it's time to drive tanks or something like in Hungary and Czechoslovakia?)))))

    I would lead a tank brigade (after art and missile processing) .. Reading people like you here! What do you think your time has come? You obviously underestimate Russia and Russians ..
    These are the things in the Ural tank divisions .. soldier
    PS The USA will set you up and then there will be no one to whine .. Think about it! hi

    You really tell me pliz to the wretched-you got together in Belarus with a tank brigade? Or how?