“We need to deal with those who sent them here”: Lukashenka spoke about the detention of Russians

The network discusses the statements made by the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko during a conversation with the head of the interim administration of Belgazprombank, Nadezhda Yermakova. Lukashenko thanked Ermakova for the work she is doing to "save the bank" and added literally the following:

If Gazprom refuses it, God be with them. You can't ruin a bank.

Lukashenka said that “he sees no particular interest in preserving Belgazprombank from Gazprom.

Ermakova, answering Lukashenko, said that the Russian owners of the bank did not contact her. After that, she added that the bank "may not be as big as it was before."

On the same day, the President of Belarus heard a report from the heads of the Investigative Committee and the KGB of the republic. The report was devoted to the detention of 33 Russians, who are called "militants of Wagner PMC".

Lukashenko said that many facts are "interesting":

I see our older brothers are silent. They no longer shout that they sent these guys to Istanbul. There was no Istanbul and could not be, as it turned out in practice.

According to Lukashenko, this group had other goals, and now the task of the Belarusian special services is to clarify these goals.

At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

Lukashenka about the detainees:

They are soldiers. They were ordered - they went. It is necessary to deal with those who sent them here.

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

Comments

[Observer2014]

"Deal with those who sent them here": Lukashenko spoke about the detention of Russians

You better figure out who advised you to get into this guano. Dangerous strategist. Return the guys HOME better. Very quickly. Every day of delay, this is another nail in your political coffin lid.

[Observer2014]

Quote: apro

Quote: Observer2014

You better return the guys HOME.

Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

My guys are far from being saints! And far from earthly angels. But there is one thing! And I do not care about their "angels". They are my brothers in blood. Dukhu. They are the same hostages of circumstances as I am. Yes, you can list at least until tomorrow why.
Bring the guys home to Russia. As long as the wind is without big knots.

[apro]

Quote: Observer2014

They are the same hostages of circumstances as I am.

This is their choice.

[figwam]

And where are the other 170 private security companies? Are they still hiding or weren't there?
The real overthrow from the West has long been paid for and is ready. A victory sign, a fist, a heart and drugs for the protesters must have been delivered, free tea and soup on the square will be available to everyone.

[gurzuf]

With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget

[Sklendarka]

Quote: gurzuf

With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget

Didn't the adults explain to you that you can't offend children and women?

[gurzuf]

Did the adults explain to you that there are no women and children in politics? When this is forgotten, they get a phrase like - the stink of the baby and as a result someone's blood is shed.

[mdsr]

Quote: gurzuf

Did the adults explain to you that there are no women and children in politics?

Frau Merkel's pantaloons will burst from laughing at you, and an iron lady named Margaret has repeatedly killed many men with ya ... mi.

[Slavs]

Quote: mdsr

iron lady named Margaret

Do you associate it with a woman ??? Like Merkel ???

[Hermit]

In any case, their names are definitely female. And whether they are women or men, only their husbands know

[Slavs]

Quote: Hermit

known only to their husbands

And they were (are) these husbands? )) Or only nominally? ))

[gurzuf]

Exactly! And how Tymoshenko Yulia will laugh!

[Sklendarka]

Quote: gurzuf

With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget

Hero, we were left with no choice, but a kiss to Luka in the hollow ...

[gurzuf]

Ugly dad? And even ... where, where are you used to kissing?

[I AM BELARUSIAN]

Yes, you are not a skalendarka, you are just an ordinary hamlo.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: I am BELARUS

Yes, you are not a skalendarka, you are just an ordinary hamlo.

Where did I go?

[nakhtigalsif]

Quote: figvam

And where are the other 170 private security companies? Are they still hiding or weren't there?
The real overthrow from the West has long been paid for and is ready. A victory sign, a fist, a heart and drugs for the protesters must have been delivered, free tea and soup on the square will be available to everyone.

...rock Paper Scissors?

[Mikhail Alexandrov]

Well, with them Belarus will trample up the hill!

[carstorm 11]

choice of what? to go to work calmly and what would they be dragged into the political showdown of the transit country in general? can you hear yourself? I don't like mercenaries. at all. but in this situation I am completely on their side. because I see all the insanity of the situation. Well, they don't go to special operations in droves. do not settle in hotels with their passports. to organize an hour of work for them at the open border. normal. rent a house on dummy 20 minutes on the Internet. I do not understand for whom all this is designed and who can believe in it. full downs without brains?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

choice of what? to go to work calmly and what would they be dragged into the political showdown of the transit country in general? can you hear yourself? I don't like mercenaries. at all. but in this situation I am completely on their side. because I see all the insanity of the situation. Well, they don't go to special operations in droves. do not settle in hotels with their passports. to organize an hour of work for them at the open border. normal. rent a house on dummy 20 minutes on the Internet. I do not understand for whom all this is designed and who can believe in it. full downs without brains?

So the cover allegedly was - a flight to Turkey, but no one flew, by the way, why? And we moved from the hotel to a sanatorium

[carstorm 11]

missed the flight. said many times already. waited for another opportunity. and then conjectures and conspiracy theories begin. as if they were not going to fly and this is a cover and similar nonsense.

[mdsr]

Quote: carstorm 11

missed the flight. waited for another opportunity

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

missed the flight. said many times already. waited for another opportunity. and then conjectures and conspiracy theories begin. as if they were not going to fly and this is a cover and similar nonsense.

It sounds as if Gagarin was late for the rocket))
A group of PMC fighters missed the plane ahahaha)))) I don't even know which would be better, true or not

[carstorm 11]

what's so funny? Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? there breakdowns are common. not. Well, you want to believe that a crowd of people came to Minsk and began to shine their passports everywhere. to move around in a crowd to disrupt your case) and that the only one who benefits from Lukashenka himself is so epic.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

what's so funny? Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? there breakdowns are common. not. Well, you want to believe that a crowd of people came to Minsk and began to shine their passports everywhere. to move around in a crowd to disrupt your case) and that the only one who benefits from Lukashenka himself is so epic.

How does it benefit him? Break off relations with the Russian Federation, get gas and oil at average European prices, lose the sales market for cx products? profitable ... apparently the hat closes the eyes. Have you provided logistics through a transit country at least once? It is very difficult to get on the bus and get to the airport, this requires special education

[carstorm 11]

provided and many times. including RB. and goods and people. work like that. though last year we have refused this but for our own reasons. what does oil and everything else have to do with it? we are talking about elections and this situation. an attempt to disrupt the elections of what were these people accused of who is most important? who will remain in power if they fail?)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

provided and many times. including RB. and goods and people. work like that. though last year we have refused this but for our own reasons. what does oil and everything else have to do with it? we are talking about elections and this situation. an attempt to disrupt the elections of what were these people accused of who is most important? who will remain in power if they fail?)

Lukashenka, and if Lukashenka is in power, I see no reason to reinvent the bicycle. So that Lukashenka is the last one who needs all this. And oil and gas have a lot to do with it, and if you don't try to pull the owl onto the globe, but turn on your head, then oil and gas will go nuts here. Quarrels with the Russian Federation are generally not profitable for Belarus

[carstorm 11]

exactly. in fact, it turns out if all this is to believe him and they came to help))) the idiocy of the situation eludes you along the way?) profitable. if interests only win elections and there the grass does not grow.

[Pissarro]

Doubt about the ability of the special services to organize a late flight? Should you punch the bus wheel or put the traffic cop on the way?)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pissarro

Doubt about the ability of the special services to organize a late flight? Should you punch the bus wheel or put the traffic cop on the way?)

And they punctured the wheel and put a traffic cop?

[Pissarro]

How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent. But the record will remain in the KGB archives. In 50 years, maybe they will publish)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pissarro

How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent. But the record will remain in the KGB archives. In 50 years, maybe they will publish)

So let them tell themselves? And they tell, only they get confused in the testimony. The secret services must have planted psychedelics in their borscht

[Pissarro]

The fact that they are confused in the testimony we know only from the directors of a cheap performance, so cheap that even in the West they laugh at the production, and I am not talking about Belarusians.
Here the hostages come out, let's listen to the direct speech

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pissarro

The fact that they are confused in the testimony we know only from the directors of a cheap performance, so cheap that even in the West they laugh at the production, and I am not talking about Belarusians.
Here the hostages come out, let's listen to the direct speech

Who is laughing in the West? I haven't heard any laugh

[carstorm 11]

what are they confused about? Did you take evidence from them? they don't have to prove anything at all. they are confused in the testimony) if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

what are they confused about? Did you take evidence from them? they don't have to prove anything at all. they are confused in the testimony) if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.

And if there was truth, then you don't need to strain, tell the truth and that's it - where you can get confused. And they usually get confused when they try to hide something.

[carstorm 11]

okay?) Seriously?) I understand that the belief in universal idiocy is cool) 200 people are preparing for power specialties. omit it is not clear why. to hell with him. they go in a crowd through a Belarusian company because they need a contract for work to cross the border (they could just go as they did everything through taxi drivers all the months, but okay). come. settle in a hotel under their passports (to rent a cottage through third parties or something else, apparently, their religion does not allow them). then they move to the recreation center under their own passports. move in a crowd. conspiracy level 90. do not bother anyone. do not drink. they don't hang around women. discipline is observed. are polite. take 33 people. and where are the other 170 people then?) where at least their signs and search? why do not all TV countries of the country show orientation towards these dangerous people?) 170 is more than 33 and much more dangerous) we have three militants being chased by all the special services. until destroyed. up to military operations. and here 170))) to believe in something like this is epic insanity)))

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

okay?) Seriously?) I understand that the belief in universal idiocy is cool) 200 people are preparing for power specialties. omit it is not clear why. to hell with him. they go in a crowd through a Belarusian company because they need a contract for work to cross the border (they could just go as they did everything through taxi drivers all the months, but okay). come. settle in a hotel under their passports (to rent a cottage through third parties or something else, apparently, their religion does not allow them). then they move to the recreation center under their own passports. move in a crowd. conspiracy level 90. do not bother anyone. do not drink. they don't hang around women. discipline is observed. are polite. take 33 people. and where are the other 170 people then?) where at least their signs and search? why do not all TV countries of the country show orientation towards these dangerous people?) 170 is more than 33 and much more dangerous) we have three militants being chased by all the special services. until destroyed. up to military operations. and here 170))) to believe in something like this is epic insanity)))

It is logical, but also to believe that "missed the plane." too like myself

[carstorm 11]

it is better, of course, to believe that 200 people arrived and 170 were lost) and 33 people about whose movement every dog ​​knew came to arrange a revolution) but to be late on the plane is of course out of the ordinary) I somehow flew from Moscow to Khabarovsk. I calculated everything. went from Tsaritsyno to Domodedovo. called a taxi. fit in time as it should. but the taxi driver turned out to be from the series, but show the way) and I arrived when the registration desk was already closed in the end) and hello) well, that's it, so that you would understand how it happens)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

it is better, of course, to believe that 200 people arrived and 170 were lost) and 33 people about whose movement every dog ​​knew came to arrange a revolution) but to be late on the plane is of course out of the ordinary) I somehow flew from Moscow to Khabarovsk. I calculated everything. went from Tsaritsyno to Domodedovo. called a taxi. fit in time as it should. but the taxi driver turned out to be from the series, but show the way) and I arrived when the registration desk was already closed in the end) and hello) well, that's it, so that you would understand how it happens)

Riding a group of fighters to the war in the Middle East and taking a taxi by plane to have a rest or for work are slightly different levels of organization and responsibility

[carstorm 11]

can break down for a bunch of reasons. even the most commonplace) okay. believe about the revolutionaries, your business. I personally am not going to believe in this nonsense)

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

if they had a legend, they would have said one text word for word at all.

So the group flew to 3 points at once?

[carstorm 11]

what difference does it make to how they split after Turkey? and what they will do in general is also irrelevant. Turkey is now a place from where almost all the hot spots of that region get. why can't it be that they can separate? there can be many contracts. the rotation has not been canceled. this is their business. again, they are not required to disclose trade secrets because they may be bound by nondisclosure contracts. there is a specific Turkey to which they were going and a specific Minsk through which they flew. which has been doing hundreds of people all these months. Seafarers or other employees working overseas. called. ordered a taxi. there are a lot of villages and roads. go is not a problem. a whole business has been organized there in these months. and no one was interested in these people) and others like them also traveled more than once) and to believe an engaged investigator is such a thing. his task is to pull the owl onto the globe.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

what's the difference how they split after Turkey

Turn on your head! They checked into a hotel before their flight. They were not going to fly. And after their flight, they could fly away on the next 4. How can this be explained?

[carstorm 11]

waiting, for example, a few more people) the unwillingness of the receiving party. I can throw in a dozen more reasons) you are digging into the fact that in general it has nothing to do with the case) there is a fact of the detention of a group of unarmed people under the article terrorism. people with all the documents on hand. not breaking any laws. if there was a suspicion, then normal operatives would first of all work out their connections. to conduct surveillance. collect evidence. and seek out indirect ones. there is no problem to expose the outside tightly. keep the capture group operational. wait for at least a reconnaissance on the ground. studying plans and streets. at least some signs of preparation for action. at least minimal.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

you are delving into what has nothing to do with the case at all

The devil is in the little things, and in such a muddy business there can be no little things. I personally just want to understand the situation, but without understanding there is no opinion

[carstorm 11]

I gave you as many details as you like. the group, instead of preparing for what they are charged with doing what is resting) is sleeping. is eating. operatives instead of normal work and identifying preparation (which is done in the first place) stupidly takes them sleeping in a sanatorium. proofs are trying to blind from not even circumstantial evidence but stupid speculation. they shine with their passports. official documents are drawn up. the terrain is not being studied. weapons are not prepared. do not meet with messengers. instructions are not received) in short, not specialists, but a kindergarten second group.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

I gave you details

I tell you, the group did not fly anywhere, Minsk is the final destination. The group was expected in Minsk. Lukashenka was drained from Moscow

[carstorm 11]

clear) well, I will not argue. believe in this delirium-your will.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

believe in this delirium-your will.

This nonsense has been proven in Minsk.

[carstorm 11]

boldly) proved how?) even their officials do not say a single word about proven) well, of course you know) okay. I'm tired . I am a bit more an officer and I know very well what training is. I know what the signs of a crime are. in general, everything that is not there even in hints. there is only a statement by the investigator that there is someone who is confused in something. who apparently does not even understand what the collection of evidence is.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Silvestr

I tell you, the group did not fly anywhere, Minsk is the final destination.

on what basis do you say this?

[nerd.su]

Quote: Silvestr

Turn on your head! They checked into a hotel before their flight. They were not going to fly.

Hello, we arrived. It was by Russian business trip standards that they were not going to fly, because they settled in the hotel. So I worked as something in a normal joint office, albeit with Russian participation. So in the morning I flew to Moscow and 8 hours before the next flight you don't hang out at the airport, but they take you to the hotel at public expense, sleep until the evening because you still have a lot to fly, not up to the Moscow beauties, then you are taken to the airport. And along the way, a lot can prevent you from arriving on time. Traffic jams, the breakdown of a public bus and the greed of organizers who do not want to urgently charter another bus, but are trying to get by on their own until the end. And still the darkness of reasons. Considering that the chop or PMC, but not the point, the organization, in general, has an international swing, then they were taken to the hotel, especially if there is still a long flight ahead with waiting in Istanbul.

Quote: Silvestr

And after their flight, they could fly away on the next 4. How can this be explained?

It’s easy to explain, you need to find connecting flights more comfortable, which, given the nature of the activity, can be difficult. Up to the point that somewhere in an intermediate or final point, the right person must replace him.

[nerd.su]

Quote: carstorm 11

what difference does it make to how they split after Turkey? and what they will do in general is also irrelevant.

Well, don't tell me. Erdogan is now probably nervously smoking on the balcony of his residence. No sooner had the main Orthodox church turned into a mosque again, but a group of Wagner was already flying towards it! ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Pissarro

How they were helped to miss their flight history is silent

Read an interview with the driver who drove them to the airport: halfway through the route, the fighters changed their route and drove them to the shelter

[carstorm 11]

and what?) I hope they explained to him in detail why they did it?) where to read it? I can't find something

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

where to read it? I can't find something

Look on Belarusian sites, there is a lot written there. The Russian border guards did not release the group until a special call, screenshots of phone sms were posted. Informative

[carstorm 11]

not anywhere) maybe you read it in blogs?)

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

not anywhere) maybe you read it in blogs?)

No, tonight in the newspaper. Now at the dacha with a phone - I can't give a link

[Mikhail Alexandrov]

The question is that THEY violated in Belarus ????????

[gurzuf]

Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: gurzuf

Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you.

So from the point of view of the Old Man, they did not have time to commit an illegal act. It is not necessary to slaughter someone to be detained.

[carstorm 11]

Prove intent. tell me who benefits from disrupting the elections from all candidates?)))

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

Prove intent. tell me who benefits from disrupting the elections from all candidates?)))

Definitely not Lukash, he has 70% according to polls

[Vlad Pervovich]

like they wrote ... 3%

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Vlad Pervovich

like they wrote ... 3%

So they wrote about 70, too, the devil himself will not understand them, everyone makes his own poll and writes his rating, counting votes in all cases is absolutely not important

[carstorm 11]

you know. I didn’t always mind Lukashenka before. even defended him in his time. but my mother's huge family has 3 sisters and a brother. their kids. husbands and wives of their children. no one for him. zero. I understand that this is just a private opinion, but very indicative for me.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

prove intent

Where are you in a hurry? As Furgala is unfounded to accuse, so please, and then, "prove." People are specially trained for this. No need for 2 standards!

[Pissarro]

You must at least have a knife to detain you on the way to stabbing)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Pissarro

You must at least have a knife to detain you on the way to stabbing)

All eggs in one basket are kept only by fools

[Pissarro]

No question, please provide a second basket)
Knitting people just because they could theoretically commit a crime was stopped already during the transition from the Neolithic, when any unarmed person could enter a pre-Sumerian or ancient Egyptian city without the risk of being tied just like that)

[Slavs]

Quote: apro

This is their choice.

Sometimes life puts you in such a position that there is no choice ... You probably did not.
Not from a good life ...

[gurzuf]

Name at least one illegal act of these guys on the territory of the country where the president is a disgusting dad and I agree with you. If this is not the case, do not put the specified substance on the fan.

[Shooter22]

I saw the filming of this detention on the central Belarusian channels: heavily armed KGB special forces, with the support of riot policemen, broke down the doors to hotel rooms, broke in, "poked" unarmed people with their noses on the floor like cattle and dragged them into paddy wagons. Laughter! Was it really impossible to hold the event less pompous, especially since no one was going to resist the Belarusian security forces there? It's just a "show" for domestic consumption, as well as an extraordinary meeting of Luka's Security Council with his honey-drinkers (I would call it differently, but the censorship will not let it through) on the topic: Russia wants to arrange a Maidan with us. Nauseous already. At the same time, the announcers of all channels, as on command, call the detained Russians "militants", not bothering themselves with any arguments or even hints at the available evidence of their guilt or grounds for detention. This is a clear overkill on the part of the Luka clan.

[Slavs]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

They are not fighting for the Motherland, they are fighting for those who pay them.

How do you know? ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Slavs

Quote: aleksejkabanets

They are not fighting for the Motherland, they are fighting for those who pay them.

How do you know? ...

Those who seek to fight for their homeland go to the army.
Moreover, it can achieve to be sent to one of the hot spots.

PS In civil wars, each side is at war for the Motherland, but their understanding of what the Motherland should be is mortally different.

[Slavs]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Those who seek to fight for their homeland go to the army.

Thank you in the know ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And the Belarusian people are not brothers? Why are you trying to oppose Russians to Belarusians.

That Russians, that Belarusians are good people and brothers.
Only, not those, not others in their countries are not masters, for a long time.

[K-612-O]

By the way, an interesting version appeared in Tg:

⚡️The detention of "Wagnerites" in Minsk could have been ordered by Chinese companies⚡️

As it became known to the @wargonzo project from sources in the special services of the Republic of Bashkortostan, it was Chinese companies competing with the Russian Federation in Africa and Venezuela that asked Lukashenka to break the logistics scheme for supplying Russian specialists to these regions. We will provide you with detailed details and a full breakdown soon.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: K-612-O

asked Lukashenka to break the logistic scheme of supplying Russian specialists to these regions.

Nothing to say! If this is true ... then the conclusion follows:
Well, our government's allies and partners are good!
Damn, again - ONE WARRIOR IN THE FIELD !!!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Observer2014

My guys are far from being saints! And far from earthly angels. But there is one thing! And I do not care about their "angel" They are my brothers by blood. Spirit. They are the same hostages of circumstances

Yes, the guys seem to be set up and got stuck, so Lukashenka orders to treat them without harshness and to identify the person who ordered the incident.
And the question is: Are you sure that if they are transferred to Russia, they will not face a harsh disassembly of the flight, landing, or even extradition to Ukraine? They "flew" to Libya for money and under a contract with a party,
with which Russia seems to be opposing.

There is more and more evidence that the detained Russians are fighters of another PMC, Mar, who signed a contract with the Government of National Accord Faiz Saraj to protect the oil infrastructure in Libya.

[Slavs]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

They "flew" to Libya for money and under a contract with a party,
with which Russia seems to be opposing.

Why don't you quote to the end ??
There is a version that PNS signed "Mar" for the protection of the refinery, and the contractor bears full responsibility for the safety of the infrastructure. But in the aftermath, as an option, to capture and expose as "Wagner", proving the presence of Russia in Libya, naturally without mentioning the contract with "Mar".
So ... who and by whose order detained the guys is a question ...
But perhaps they have kept their heads ... And dad is playing in his own interests .... Kozlins.
Perhaps they wanted to use them in the manner of Shugalei ... And their curators (PNS) are good, with experience ...

[babylon]

Home needs to be returned without controversy, but there is one thing? why not publicize who they work for? Or why, as you “say brothers by blood,” do not put things in order in their house, Russia? or are they patriots only where more green bills are paid?

[K-612-O]

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way? And by the way, all these quirks ended badly for Belarus, that Uralkali, that MZKT, which had to be nationalized, so that it would not go wild and as a result, our army goes to BAZ, and about the bank in general, beauty, took and squeezed. But the Russians are to blame.

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

Because you have to deal with Russians ...
But he kept the factories and production ...

[K-612-O]

With MZKT and MAZ it is very noticeable, MAZ finally fell under the Germans, MZKT lost orders a lot, plus the technology and CD were handed over to the Chinese for a penny, prices for agricultural products increased.
And what is the result for citizens?
Something income there from this has not grown much.

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

And what is the result for citizens?

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

[unhappy]

You go on, we understood your message.
You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they have no democracy ...

[apro]

Quote: unhappy

You go on, we understood your message.
You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they have no democracy ...

For me, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, one people, one state, has always been and will be ...

[unhappy]

And also the brothers of the Slavs, remember the type of Bulgarians. How much blood they lost with the Turks ...

[postum]

And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Postum

And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count

Yes, and during the presidency, they did not stain

[postum]

I wonder why they minus, for the truth, which does not agree with the worldview of the "patriots", well, excuse me, people have always been consumables for solving the goals of the governing state, often at odds with the goals of the people ...

[Slavs]

Quote: Postum

I wonder why they minus, for the truth,

Take care of yourself, patriot ... God forbid you suffer for the Motherland, truth-lover ...))))

[postum]

So what, you have something to argue with NATO that the people have always been a consumable?

[Slavs]

You won't get into the consumable, don't worry ...

[MMX]

Quote: Postum

And how much blood was lost because of the kings, emperors, members of the Politburo, and in general it is impossible to count

No, well, in other countries they die solely of their own free will while performing a feat to defend the country and without the knowledge of the country's leadership (noble humanistic, of course).
And only in Mordor / Russia orders to fight (die) are given by the bloodthirsty rulers of the state ...

[K-612-O]

You just explain it to Butler, otherwise he has forgotten it for 10 years already.

[apro]

Who would explain to zero ...

[Andr_38]

Quote: apro

Who would explain to zero ...

The difference is that Putin ("nullified" in your podzabornaya jargon) does not take the Belarusians who have arrived in Russia in the framework of pre-election PR as hostages, while Lukashenka has already sunk to this point.

[apro]

Quote: Andr_38

does not take Belarusians who have come to Russia as part of the pre-election PR hostage

And what were the Belarusian mercenaries there?

[Andr_38]

Quote: apro

And what were the Belarusian mercenaries there?

Whoever was there, but to take hostage a crowd of arrived Belarusians is nonsense for Russia, absolutely impossible. And in Belarus it is already in the order of things.

[bayard]

Is it a shame that they have removed the subsidies?
Oil was not allowed to sell?
Do not give as before in three throats as a heifer to suck the uterus?
Everything for yourself, nothing in return?

Who gave a generous hand to the fascist Ukraine with oil products, spare parts for military equipment and everything necessary for terror in Donbas?
Who is with her - the fascist Ukraine, conducting joint projects in rocketry? Financing terrorists?
Your Bulbo-Banderaites are "dad".
The enemy of Russian unity, the Russian World, the enemy of the union state of Russia and Belarus.
The one who imprisoned Belarusian volunteers returning from Donbass.
Anyone who is now looking for "protection from Russia" from the United States ...

The only thing that can be envied is how he keeps his ministers and the entire vertical.
But for how long, is it left for him, with such a policy ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: bayard

Who gave a generous hand to the fascist Ukraine with oil products, spare parts for military equipment and everything necessary for terror in Donbas?

Well, this is fraternal Ukraine. leading the war of independence:

We got independence very cheaply: all peoples fought, today our fraternal Ukraine is fighting.

© From the statement of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko on January 26 at the ceremony of presenting doctoral diplomas and professor's certificates to scientific and pedagogical workers.

[bayard]

So he himself declared himself a fan of Hitler - extensively substantiated how good this figure was for HIS people ... National Socialism ... he is.
And whose son he is - is unknown ... a bastard ... Perhaps the father's genes are walking - policemen, Bandera.

[gurzuf]

Strongly noticeable. Probably from this you write in one sentence the name of the countries "Russia and Ukraine" in different ways. The truth is not in this discussion. I wonder why?

[apro]

Quote: gurzuf

I wonder why?

The key phrase is not in this discussion.

[gurzuf]

Strong position! Like - I remember here, I don't remember here. Even for children. the garden does not pull.

[apro]

The inconsistent position of Russia is because the presence of a clear goal-setting is two, and its subordinate position in relation to the financial imperialists, genocide of the Russian people.

[gurzuf]

And for this you write "russia" in comparison with "Ukraine" with a small letter !!! ??? I say, in kindergarten the contingent is more serious!

[apro]

There is a lot of talk here about the greatness. The power of Russia. But in fact it’s pshik. Ukraine. Belarus is just a territory from which Russia refused with its own hands. Today it wants to prove something.

[gurzuf]

Here! As soon as you start poking your nose into yours, the whole camouflage will fly off you. And then - "The key phrase is not in this discussion."

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: unhappy

You go on, we understood your message.
You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they have no democracy ...

Oh, how wonderful it is to throw a known substance at the fan.

[unhappy]

What are you dissatisfied with? Gamno does not smell of roses, really do not like life?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: unhappy

What are you dissatisfied with? Gamno does not smell of roses, really do not like life?

Describing the truth of life and throwing "gamna" at the fan are somewhat different things.

[unhappy]

It was you who raised the subject of substance, not me.
The truth of life is that we, Russians, are constantly blamed for the fact that we live poorly and we do not have democracy (and the "Europeans" are all in white), I noted this hit, and you accused me of throwing Mr.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: unhappy

It was you who raised the subject of substance, not me.
The truth of life is that we, Russians, are constantly blamed for the fact that we live poorly and we do not have democracy (and the "Europeans" are all in white), I noted this hit, and you accused me of throwing Mr.

The truth of life is that the Minsk turner Roman has nothing to share with the Novgorod plumber, Uncle Vasya. They both do not care about democracy, they need a just welfare state. And the endless opposition of Russians and Belarusians only plays into the hands of both our external enemies and internal ones.

[unhappy]

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

I write the word "Russia" with a capital letter.
An adult must realize that there was no justice, there is no and there will not be (a just state is Campanella's mythical "city-sun"). We must work and not engage in revolutions. Who raised the storm in Ukraine? Not Uncle Vasya or Roma, but local oligarchs-Nazis. Bucha in Belarus - the local "elite" also wants to steer ...

.

[apro]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

The truth of life is that the Minsk turner Roman has nothing to share with the Novgorod plumber, Uncle Vasya.

Alexei don't explain the obvious to the Russians ... their master is still better ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: apro

Alexei don't explain the obvious to the Russians ... their master is still better ...

Not Russians, but Russians. But seriously, you have your own guards, and we have our own, but they have the same goals. It is necessary that the slaves serve their bars faithfully and do not open their mouths. And the fact that nationalism is kindled, so do not care.

[Ramon Mercader]

Of course I'm sorry, but you, my friend, are apparently not Russian. In my childhood, this word was a dirty word, synonymous with "slow-witted" and "brakes"

[K-612-O]

Interestingly, do our enterprises receive raw materials and energy for free? How long does the Arab League pull rubber from the common market so that the income from the export of petroleum products and the import of sanctions is not lost? And excuse me how much non-refundable money was given out at the first request, and do not forget that the supply of oil and gas partially goes towards the supply of agricultural products. And the standard of living is comparable to the standard of living in the regions neighboring Belarus.

[Observer2014]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And what is the result for citizens?

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

And how does this affect this filth? Return the couples to Russia. All that is required of you. You amaze ("Pasha" is not about you personally I'm talking about the official Minsk) You yourself exposed your Fabergés under attack. Probably you are pleased?

[apro]

Quote: Observer2014

And how does this affect this filth?

Management efficiency.
They will return to work ... someone else's not necessary ... your own is enough.

[K-612-O]

What do you say if 28 people are handed over to the Sumerians? Understood means?

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

What do you say if 28 people are handed over to the Sumerians? Understood means?

There will be a new surrender ... there will be a new game ...
Do not think out for others ...

[Slavs]

Quote: apro

There will be a new surrender ... there will be a new game ...

Eh, Olezhka, I would like to hand you over to someone ... And we would play the game here for you ...

[Alekseev]

Quote: apro

there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ... and the average standard of living of Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of Russian

The main income from the refining of Russian oil and living in debt.
Take an interest in how there is with the debts at the father.
As for the silly complaints about the lack of oil and gas, then Belarus and others like it do not have to bear huge defense costs, there are no frosty Siberian winters and northern remote territories that need to be provided, there is a convenient location for transit, etc.
Everyone has their own advantages and their own problems, and the art of managing the economy is not in asking for a loan, but in ensuring that enterprises operate efficiently, make a profit, and not be saved through state subsidies, i.e., through the same debts.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alekseev

Take an interest in how there is with the debts at the father.

Ask how we are with corporate debt, and then climb to the neighbors.

[Alekseev]

Do not mix one with the other. It is different, like horseradish and a finger.
Corporations do not give subsidies for food, and, often, their debt is formed from the need to make investments in production and there will be no serious sanctions against a corporation that has a large debt to Western banks, otherwise who will pay off the debts?
That ee Gazprom borrowed 25 billion in China and did not distribute it "to support the pants", but built the Power of Siberia and a gas processing plant in the Amur Region. Do not hesitate, the loan will pay off.

[Sklendarka]

And why did you build the Power of Siberia ?, where is it needed ???

[Brturin]

Quote: Skalendarka

where is it needed ???

And forgive the Chinese? the other day we continued to build its continuation - "Eastern Route", in the amount of 5100 km. The northern section is ready, midway from Jilin Province to Hebei Province, to be launched by the end of 2020, to Shanghai by June 2025.

[muham]

Quote: BrTurin

the other day we continued to build its continuation - "Eastern Route", in the amount of 5100 km. The northern section is ready, midway from Jilin Province to Hebei Province, to be launched by the end of 2020, to Shanghai by June 2025.

But what about

Quote: K-612-O

⚡️The detention of "Wagnerites" in Minsk could have been ordered by Chinese companies⚡️

[Brturin]

Quote: muham

But what about

Quote: K-612-O

⚡️The detention of "Wagnerites" in Minsk could have been ordered by Chinese companies⚡️

And before that, that this is a Libyan setup ... they wanted to lure and hand over ... versions and conspiracy theories above the roof, there are facts ...

[muham]

Quote: BrTurin

And before that, that this is a Libyan setup ... they wanted to lure and hand over ... versions and conspiracy theories above the roof, there are facts.

Duck versions of the wagon and trolley to boot. One thing is strange to me, Prilepin would not have sung without notes. I do not believe that his song is amateur performance. So the ball is tangled here ...

[Brturin]

Quote: muham

Prilepin would not have sung without notes.

Notes, not notes, but I don't think it will affect the construction of the Eastern Route or the Chinese stadium in Minsk. The ball ... now there are too many emotions and few facts (and those that are interpreted this way and that). ... the ball will not unravel the Moebius loop ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Alekseev

Do not mix one with the other. It is different, like horseradish and a finger.

Different, then different, but if you have not noticed, corporations from the state budget to cover the debts of subsidies are different.

Quote: Alekseev

and built the Power of Siberia and a gas processing plant in the Amur region. Do not hesitate, the loan will pay off.

We do not "fail" to pay off. "It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time
You won't have to - neither me nor you. "Nekrasov N.A.

[almen1]

And who needs all this?

[mark2]

Ask how we have a corporate debt, and then climb to neighbors

And you are an excellent student in the study of State Department manuals, I'm looking. Compare the state debt of Belarus with the corporate debt of Russian companies. Why not compare public debts or only corporate ones?

Well, let's imagine what? Russia will pay its debt itself, and dad will ask for a loan again

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: mark2

Well, let's imagine what? Russia will pay its debt itself, and dad will ask for a loan again

Will he ask you?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: mark2

And you are an excellent student in the study of State Department manuals, I'm looking. Compare the state debt of Belarus with the corporate debt of Russian companies. Why not compare public debts or only corporate ones?

That is why

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Different, then different, but if you have not noticed, corporations from the state budget to cover the debts of subsidies are different.

[Brturin]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Ask how we are with corporate debt, and then climb the neighbors

He asked - "The debts of Russian companies in 2019 increased by 4,5% and amounted to 42 trillion rubles. The Central Bank of Russia announced this on its website on Monday," February 10. https://iz.ru/974562/2020-02-10/tcb-podschital-dolgi-rossiiskikh-kompanii At the same time, Russia's GDP in 2019 amounted to 109 billion rubles. At 109, debt is 42.
Belarus - With GDP in 2019 - 132 billion rubles - debt 123 ....
At the beginning of 2014, the total debts of large and medium-sized enterprises amounted to BYN 53 billion. A year later, they increased to 66,3 billion BYN, by 2016 - up to 92,1 billion BYN, by 2017 - up to 98,9 billion BYN, by 2018 - up to 111,7 billion BYN, by 2019 - up to 123,6 billion BYN.
https://banki24.by/news/4277-dolgi-belorusskih-predpriyatiy-prevysili.
The growth of liabilities continued in 2020: at the beginning of the year, debts reached BYN 132,8 billion, by June 1 - BYN 145,7 billion.

[Dangerous]

Russia's GDP is only 109 billion rubles ?? Fix

[Brturin]

Editing time is limited, so ...

[Junior Private]

You are confusing corporate debt with government debt. In the first case, the corporation is bankrupt, in the second - the state. The difference is obvious.

[Ilshat]

Quote: Alekseev

and northern remote areas that need to be provided

In practice, exactly the opposite.
Russia exists practically only at the expense of the northern remote territories, which provide all of it.
Ask where we have oil, gas, gold ...
Or aluminum plants ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ilshat

Ask where we have oil, gas, gold ...
Or aluminum plants ...

Everything is where it was ... but aluminum plants are no longer with us,
providing them with an energy complex created soviet the state - also not with us.
Oil, gas, gold are in question.
Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.

[Ilshat]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.

In this regard, I fully agree with you.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Read the history and reasons for the Lena execution - and it is clear that the turn of history goes on in the next circle.

I could have put 10 pluses.

[apro]

Quote: Alekseev

but to ensure that enterprises operate effectively

Here is who would explain this to the Russian rulers ...

[Dangerous]

Don't be a plug in every hole. Your daddy is notoriously obscene and does not know what to do next

[carstorm 11]

in general it is very different. factor of. you can screw it to those who do not go there.

[K-612-O]

With the Smolensk region, yes, but not at times, but with the Lipetsk region it is about the same

[carstorm 11]

this is said by my relatives who moved here. the standard of living is not only about prices in stores.

[K-612-O]

Well, it's hard to argue with that. Here you are right

[Ilshat]

Quote: apro

the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian

Laughed.
Oha, with an average salary of less than 20 thousand for our ...

[apro]

Quote: Ilshat

Laughed.
Oha, with an average salary of less than 20 thousand for our ...

And in small Russian towns, how much? And the level of prices? I'll laugh too ...

[Ilshat]

No idea.
We don't have small Russian towns here.
But you should not compare the minimum and average.

[apro]

Quote: Ilshat

But you should not compare the minimum and average.

But people live on this money, support families ...

[Ilshat]

So the Bantustans somehow live on the minimum wage.
What are you for?
Minimum and average are different concepts, comparing them is a mistake!
What's not clear here?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ilshat

No idea.
We don't have small Russian towns here.
But you should not compare the minimum and average.

It makes sense to compare the minimum and average, but taking into account the decile coefficients.
From January 2020 the minimum wage:
Belarus - 375 RUB RB = 11359 RUB RF,
Russia - 12130 RUB RF.
The difference is not great.
Average salary:
Belarus - 1119.1 rubles RB = 33898 rubles RF
Russia - ~ 50000 RUB RF.
The difference is already greater.
And here are the decile coefficients of wage differentiation:
Belarus - ~ 4.1,
Russia - from 9 (HSE) to 17 (the range is associated with the turbidity of the Russian economy).

PS It is considered that the political instability of countries occurs when the decile coefficient exceeds 7 times the level.
Draw your own conclusions about the natural or artificial nature of the crisis of power in Belarus.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: apro

the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why ????

Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

[apro]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: apro

And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...

And I do not speak for the Russians, I speak for the state.

[uladzimir.surko]

And when did Minsk live within its means, in the USSR? If I’m Minsky from Grushevka!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: apro

Quote: aleksejkabanets
Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

And the Russians are beyond their means? This is something with something ...

And there and within our means. Average (like t 'across the hospital )
For some reason, everyone bypasses the decile issues and the comparison of the volumes of export and offshorization of capital.

[Inorus]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: apro

the average standard of living among Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why ????

Because the Belarusian state lives within its means.

Of course ... which Russia takes))

[cmax]

The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all! It is not necessary to live and eat up credit money.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: cmax

The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all!

You better write how effective our Russian economy is.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: cmax

The economy of the Belarusian state is not effective at all! It is not necessary to live and eat up credit money.

Give, PLZ, an example of a committed and not returned loan.

[bar]

Belarus, unlike Russia, has no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average Russian ... that's why ????

Well, first of all, it's still different. And secondly, precisely because oil and gas, and bad loans with subsidies to support your pants, you get exactly from the Russian bastards. And you sell the products of your remaining factories to them.
How old are you when you have to explain such basic things?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

"-" for this already:

Quote: bar

small factories

.
BelAZ working for export (one of three in the world) - a factory?
Talking about others, I sense, is useless - blinkers will interfere with perception.

[o Fortuna]

For help and dislike

[gost2012]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And what is the result for citizens?

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

about the middle level - a lie or a stream of faith?

[Rostislav]

Because Russia constantly provides loans, and discounts for gas and oil. The debt to Russia is over 9 billion with a GDP of just over 16 billion. And they are forgiven regularly.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: apro

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is neither gas nor oil

There is a lot of oil. It is hard to get and not very good, but it is.

Quote: apro

not large deposits of minerals

At least the largest reserves of potash fertilizers on the planet. Within the limits of 5 leaders for sure.

Quote: apro

and the average standard of living of the Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of the Russian ... that's why

Because the collective farm Fuhrer ruined everything. Even oil refining has become unprofitable for him. OIL. Our factories producing alcohol and alcohol have become unprofitable. WE HAVE. During a pandemic, when alcohol is also needed for an antiseptic!

Now he got into the banking sector and kills her with her collective farm demands and undermining her reputation!

Quote: K-612-O

MAZ finally fell under the Germans

He dies out of his mouth, the Germans don't need him. In debt as in silk.

[nPuBaTuP]

in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ... and the average standard of living of Belarusians does not differ much from the average level of Russian

Yes, therefore, my dear .... that Russia sells these resources to Bulbostan at low prices .... how long do you think the old man will sit in the armchair if (hypothetically) Russia banned Belarus in all directions? ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: apro

in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals ..

Exactly! There are no ICBMs, no nuclear weapons, no APCR and submarines, no cosmodromes and launches of LV and AES, no GLONAS - nothing!
Therefore, about useful and not very minerals - better shut up. And about the standard of living too. When Russia paid the external debt of the Union for all the union fraternity, Ukraine and Belarus flourished ...
Then everyone was fine, except us. But now everyone suddenly wanted to use our bowels for free ...
Not a bad idea, and all the habits are like those of the brothers, not brothers!

[Andr_38]

Quote: apro

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia

"Russia" with a lowercase letter - is it a typo, or are you simply illiterate, or is it a principled position?

[Inorus]

Quote: Andr_38

Quote: apro

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia

"Russia" with a lowercase letter - is it a typo, or are you simply illiterate, or is it a principled position?

This is not a misprint, in all his comments Russia is with a small letter. But ukroina with a big ... it's just a Russophobe

[Andr_38]

Quote: Inorus

This is not a misprint, in all his comments Russia is with a small letter. But ukroina with a big ... it's just a Russophobe

I agree with the characteristics. This is confirmed by all his writings.

[d4rkmesa]

Are you pretending or what? In Russia, most of the people are neither directly nor indirectly related to oil and gas or minerals. How else should they live?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: apro

Dear in Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no gas, no oil, no large deposits of minerals .. and the average standard of living of Belarusians is not very different from the average level of Russian ... that's why ????

There is a deposit of money in Belarus.

... from 2000 to 2010, the level of annual financial support of Belarus or the shortfall of income of the Russian Federation in our economic relations ranged from hundreds of millions of dollars to 2-3 billion, and now it is 5-6 billion per year

© Interview with Russian Ambassador to Belarus Mikhail Babich to RIA Novosti on March 14, 2019.

[Ilshat]

For many years I have not seen MAZs on the roads ...
And how many once was ...
And they were praised!

[K-612-O]

There are MANs who assemble there, but MAZs themselves and, in principle, do less.

[Zeev zeev]

I come from an industrial city in Belarus. I can specifically tell you how "Father" has kept the factories and production facilities. Food industry enterprises were sold to foreign investors, a garment factory was closed, leaving one atelier for custom tailoring from production, a mirror factory and a weighing plant were closed, the river port and ship repair shops were closed, the machine-building plant is breathing in incense from a three-day working week, the rubber products plant is breathing in incense with a three-day workweek, a tire mill (where my brother works) is currently undergoing massive layoffs, throwing people on unpaid leave, and shutting down several production lines. Belarusian factories and manufactures are absolutely uncompetitive due to the low quality of products and high prices for products, they can exist only due to state subsidies, and the Belarusian economy is in a stable deep peak.

[apro]

Quote: ZeevZeev

I come from an industrial city in Belarus.

Nice to hear. I have the same town ... but nothing that remains from Soviet times. not left. from the word at all ... even the foundation blocks were pulled out ..

[Igor Golov]

Well, what kind of gag are you barking on Russians? The Russians did that too, right?

[K-612-O]

Here, some of you will not understand at all how much Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises, which would bring results in terms of quality and volume of products, but no, he cut it all off. And then he flirted with the Chinese who do not need Belarusian competitiveness in their grave. But the Russians are to blame

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

how many Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises,

Dear ... how old are you ... and where do you live and what do you do ...
Effective Russian managers ... well, well, market conditions ... I have no other words other than abusive ones. With my memory, several construction companies have successfully gone bankrupt, and now they are milking another enterprise ... eternal bankruptcies ... except to withdraw money can do nothing.

[K-612-O]

Only bankruptcy began as soon as But father squeezed out Russian companies. Why?

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

Only the bankruptcy began

I'm talking about Russia ... about my town.

[Inorus]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

Only the bankruptcy began

I'm talking about Russia ... about my town.

but why do you write Russia with a small letter .... then?

[Slavs]

Quote: Inorus

but why do you write Russia with a small letter .... then?

Yes, he is from Ukraine ... Out of habit he writes ..))

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: apro

I know ... why ... and because of this I have a persistent aversion to the Russian bourgeois ...

The bourgeois has no nationality.

[K-612-O]

You can’t tell more precisely

[K-612-O]

And talking about Belarus, you here from the sect of witnesses of communism stand up for Butler

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

And talking about Belarus, you here from the sect of witnesses of communism stand up for Butler

And what does it change? We will have to shed blood because of these monsters, as in Ukraine, and kill our brothers Belarusians

[K-612-O]

Shit, how interesting, have you already gathered to kill the Belarusians ?!
I wonder why it would be? How is it in Ukraine? Oh well. The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.
Now it is clear why Russia write with a small letter, the saucepan does not press your head?

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.

Well done ... I moved in ... just it is not clear what these fighters were doing on the territory of Belarus. The Russians say they were passing through ... but I don't believe ...
It grows older again ... fix it ..

[K-612-O]

Everything is clear with you. Forward to a bright European future to the Poles as laborers and Lithuanians in the Untermensch.

[apro]

Quote: K-612-O

Everything is clear with you. Forward to a bright European future to the Poles as laborers and Lithuanians in the Untermensch.

The bright Soviet future will suit me, and you Russians are definitely striving to become a farm laborer for a good master ...

[Inorus]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

The Belarusians themselves should deal with the batskoy.

Well done ... I moved in ... just it is not clear what these fighters were doing on the territory of Belarus. The Russians say they were passing through ... but I don't believe ...
It grows older again ... fix it ..

You my friend for the censor, what did you forget at VO)))

[Igor Golov]

What's the point in lying about these people? And the meaning of the coups in Belarus to arrange?

[New Year day]

Quote: K-612-O

Belarusians should deal with their father themselves

They will figure it out, do not hesitate. It will be like in Ukraine. You will still regret

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: K-612-O

Here, some of you will not understand at all how much Russian companies offered investments and entry into enterprises, which would bring results in terms of quality and volume of products, but no, he cut it all off.

This is the front of the gingerbread; the reverse of which they are silent - cutting off the social sector, throwing it into unemployment and exporting capital to offshore.
Correctly chopped off.

[alexmach]

I can specifically tell you how I "kept the factories and production"

What a horror, what a nightmare! And tell you, for example, what happened to the production in my hometown in Ukraine? Well, that you would at least understand a little what you are writing about.
In general, nothing at all was left of the sewing enterprises and the Progress shoe factory. The Kinescope plant - 10 thousand jobs - was closed back in the mid-90s, now its territory is being built up. Factory "Electron" (made TVs) - this one is still "alive". Has some kind of production site outside the city, has produced pieces of 4 trams for the city .. over the past 15 years, probably.
The bus plant is also 10 thousand workers - it closed in the mid-decade, eked out some kind of existence until the mid-2000s, produced a couple of trolleybuses for the city. Now its territory is already fully built up.
The Polaron plant, which produced semiconductor technology, was closed in the 90s, the territory is being built up (the place was far from the center, because only now)
A bunch of factories producing electronics - Lorta, NiRti, 237 plants - have been closed since the 90s and built up.
The auto-loader plant is closed, built up.
The plant "Selmash" - closed in the 90s is now being built up.

The only working plant - "spark", made light bulbs .. somewhere outside the city.

In general, everything was closed 25 years ago. For non-effectiveness. And in Belarus, your brother is still working at some plant there .. This is what is called keeping production. The fact is that if it exists at least in some form, then it can still be reformed and made somewhat modern and profitable and fit into the modern economy. But this is only if it is still there.

[carstorm 11]

don't be bullshit. all these quirks began with the fact that he wanted more. saved MAZ? no one saves production by losing the main client and ruining production three times. Russians bought it all. for money. much money. Why are you posting this illiterate pathos?

[bar]

Because you have to deal with Russians ...

Soon you will have to deal not with evil Russians, but with kind and fluffy striped ones. You will be asking them for loans and subsidies to support your pants. But it is unlikely that it will work out, you have nothing to give them in return, Ukrainians and Poles supply them with russophobia in abundance, and you have nothing else, unlike the same Ukraine.

But he kept the factories and production ...

It's not for long. Without your own raw materials, you will not produce anything. And you cannot sell what you have produced. Other than the vicious Russians, the products of your saved factories are of no use to anyone. And in Russia it is already quite "import substituted" thanks to the bangs of your father. Will you pick strawberries in Poland if the Ukrainians, who have been working there for a long time, will allow you.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

Because you have to deal with Russians ...
But he kept the factories and production ...

Not at all because he is dealing with Russians. But because the Belarusian bourgeoisie have constant conflicts of interest with the Russian bourgeoisie. As for me, these creatures (Chubais, Potanins and the like) have no nationality at all. I am sincerely convinced that the Belarusian people do not and cannot have claims against the Russian people and vice versa.

[Zeev zeev]

Belarusian bourgeoisie are Lukashenka's nomenclature. Relatives, friends, friends of friends. There is practically no independent business.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Belarusian bourgeoisie are Lukashenka's nomenclature. Relatives, friends, friends of friends. There is practically no independent business.

Do you think we have in Russia? "Peripheral capitalism" is the same everywhere.

[Zeev zeev]

You still have an independent business. Not large, there are also "not random" people, but medium and small still remain. And in Belarus only small firms remained

[Uncle Izya]

You say about Israel the apartheid state. Clannishness Russian-speaking in general are slaves and they are all afraid to say that they pissed their lives having arrived in Israel. A man if not a Jew cannot marry in the country. If you remind Israel that he is a totalitarian state, then immediately the Holocaust, the Holocaust. it was not then, but most of the inhabitants are Arabs and immigrants from North Africa who did not hear about the Holocaust

[apro]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

I am sincerely convinced that the Belarusian people do not and cannot have claims against the Russian people and vice versa.

I absolutely agree with you, the national bourgeoisie will sell for grandmother and own mother ...

[K-612-O]

The peoples do not, I myself have relatives living in Gomel. But there have been a lot of questions about bam lately.
By the way, for some reason, the Chinese bourgeoisie for some reason does not interfere with welcoming ours instead of ours, despite the fact that everything where China invests becomes Chinese.

[Igor Golov]

Do the peoples have? We may not have. And many in Belarus sincerely believe that the Russians, who support him, are to blame for the election of Lukashenko. Those who say so are no longer Belarusians?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Igor Golov

And many in Belarus sincerely believe that the Russians, who support him, are to blame for the election of Lukashenko.

No, they sincerely believe that without the support of the Russian Federation, he would have flown out of the chair after a long time ago. The protests of the dissatisfied are one thing, but the riot caused by the complete collapse of the economy is another, this one cannot be dispersed. And so he was on huge loans and pulled to the last. Now the Chinese are fluttering a bit, but it's even worse. They will take away Kaliyka for non-payment

[Uncle Izya]

They don’t think there’s anything, but what to do, the security forces will roll it into the asphalt

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: K-612-O

The peoples do not, I myself have relatives living in Gomel. But there have been a lot of questions about bam lately.
By the way, for some reason, the Chinese bourgeoisie for some reason does not interfere with welcoming ours instead of ours, despite the fact that everything where China invests becomes Chinese.

I really do not like the fact that in many posts, in topics about Belarus, ethnic strife between Russians and Belarusians is kindled. If you look back, you can remember similar srachs between Russians and Ukrainians.

[K-612-O]

And where are the peoples and tricks of the bulb with a mustache? I myself have relatives in Belarus and many acquaintances. Here the question is that bam right now confronts Russians with Belarusians and not for the first time.
Especially if he gives the guys out to the Sumerians.

[gost2012]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

Because you have to deal with Russians ...
But he kept the factories and production ...

mantras and rituals about preserved factories give out the possession of information at the level of intuitive clairvoyance.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

Because you have to deal with Russians ...
But he kept the factories and production ...

So let him deal with the Israelis .. He kept the factories and production for himself beloved ... But father of the Byalorians .. Father of peoples, of all times and peoples.

[Terenin]

Quote: apro

Because you have to deal with Russians ...

Are you not Russian? What then keeps (and for a long time) on the damned Russian forum

[APASUS]

Quote: apro

Quote: K-612-O

And why is it interesting that Butler always turns out this way?

Because you have to deal with Russians ...
But he kept the factories and production ...

Now in Ukraine, Russians are not honored, more and more Americans and Europeans rule! People ride in oil, they don't come out of resorts, not life, but raspberries !!!

[maykl8]

Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

What did they do? Lived in a sanatorium, did not drink vodka, behaved politely? Working for a PMC is not a crime. It is possible to detain them for rape, because they also have genitals, IMHO.

[apro]

Quote: maykl8

What did they do?

A great excuse ... how many years and everything works ... why are we, we are not ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: apro

A great excuse ... how many years and everything works ... why are we, we are not ...

And when else was this "excuse" used?

Since they acted so calmly, it can be assumed that they used Belarus as a transshipment base not for the first time, but before where and why they were flying, nobody was interested. And now "no Istanbul, the elder brother is silent."
Where is the evidence that it was the elder brother who sent the men to Belarus? Continuous thinking up. Very European.

[carstorm 11]

so they are exactly what no che) no che) name at least one of their actions that gives you the opportunity to talk about some kind of their fault? anyone?

[Zeev zeev]

It's a crime to work for a PMC. Both under Russian and Belarusian laws, mercenary activity is a criminal offense.

[Igor Golov]

And this was not a PMC. And the name was generally published in the Western PRESS. Work your way up professionalism!

[Zeev zeev]

Well, yes, Belarus is in the West from Russia, so the Belarusian press is WESTERN.

[K-612-O]

Only in Russia there are no PMCs, there are private security companies, some of which provide a very wide range of services, including abroad, guarding the same tankers.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: maykl8

Working for a PMC is not a crime.

Actually a crime. There are no PMCs in the Russian Federation, but there are state structures and organized criminal groups. Our laws are like that. Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. From 3 to 15, all PMC members. From three years old to private, and up to fifteen organizers. Yeah.
Actually, the whole problem is due to the fact that in Russia laws are not binding on everyone. If I decide to go somewhere to kill for money, they will jail me. If I decide to send others, then they will again go to prison, but the term will be much more solid. Well, if caught naturally. But if there are certain connections, then why not?
If the Russian Federation had normal legislation on PMCs, then a company representative with a bunch of documents would have been in Minsk long ago. With contracts and customer coordinates, contracts with employees, route, etc. etc. And Lukash now would not be pompously speaking from the rostrum, but would scratch his turnips wondering how not to be included in the lists of international terrorists involved in mass kidnappings.
And since we do not live according to laws, but according to personal instructions and permissions, the guys are now in such a position that they cannot even say directly where and why they are going. For they automatically turn into criminals, even according to our laws, according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and according to international laws, if they do not fall on the same level with terrorists, then they are very close to them.
And if you get to the root of the problem, then the main fault lies with those who began to have fun with PMCs, without bothering at least some kind of legislative framework. For when hundreds of militants (yes, this is the official status of the Wagnerites) cut across Asia and Africa, there is no question at all whether they will be accepted or not. The only question is who, when and where will decide to play on this topic, and nothing more. We drove ourselves into this situation, yeah.

[Terenin]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Actually, the whole problem is due to the fact that in Russia laws are not obligatory for everyone.

"Nicely" lying, as always.

Quote: Lannan Shi

If I decide to send others, then they will again go to prison, but the term will be much more solid. Well, if caught naturally.

Don't worry, anonymized nicknames will be canceled and you will definitely be caught. Be patient a little.

Quote: Lannan Shi

If I decide to go somewhere to kill for money, they will jail me.

Again all "beautifully" are mistaken . For if I decide not will give, and if it's real where to kill for money, do not worry either - corpses are not planted

Quote: Lannan Shi

We drove ourselves into this situation, yeah.

yeah. And when did your family have a different conclusion? It is not difficult to guess what is the name of the culprit and, of course, with a capital letter, вyou will write

[Tank jacket]

You should have covered these three, not 33 ... Wrong in numbers

[Tank jacket]

MINSK, July 27 - RIA Novosti. The candidate for the presidency of Belarus Svetlana Tikhanovskaya answered the question about the ownership of Crimea.
“This is a very painful question. This issue divides people and pushes their heads together when they start discussing it. Can I say, as is customary to say, as is customary in our country and according to international law, that Crimea is legally Ukrainian, but in fact Russian? And don't torture me anymore, "said Tikhanovskaya on the air.

[New Year day]

Quote: Tank jacket

to the question about the ownership of Crimea

How did Gref answer?

[Alexga]

These must be protected and protected. According to the scenario of "color" revolutions, there must be a sacred sacrifice to show the bloody regime. No matter how any of them become this victim.

[Tank jacket]

These three litters pose a serious threat to the sovereignty of Belarus and Russia. As for the sacred sacrifice, I agree.

[Igor Golov]

Who proved that the coup was being prepared by the Russians? This is still only the speculation of a person who has gone out of his mind as the permanent Bulbofuehrer of Belarus.

[Greg Miller]

AHL behaves with Russia as the Russian leadership allows itself to behave.

[Baloo]

Quote: apro

Quote: Observer2014

You better return the guys HOME.

Oh are your guys holy? And if they are your guys. is it an indulgence from crime?
Any confrontation between AGLukashenko and the Russians leads to ambiguous conclusions. Recall Uralkali.Maz KAMAZ.MKTZ.Dairy Wars.Belgazbank. make the Russian side look unsightly. in all cases the Russian side is either swindlers or invaders ...

Oleg, do you know:

The Russian Foreign Ministry reported that the detainees were in transit through Minsk to Istanbul and had all the necessary documents in their hands. The logistics were provided by a Belarusian company... The interpretation of the situation by the Belarusian side does not stand up to criticism, the Foreign Ministry added.

Whether Lukashenka was aware of this setup, or was it the work of his image-makers before the elections, it doesn't matter anymore. The farce ended with a clumsy clown. It will not work to live off cheap Russian oil and gas. Eat American LNG, just don't let American biolaboratories visit you, you will make money like the Chinese, Kazakhs and many others. A free Russian vaccine saved Africa, and after the epidemic of fever, the dirty biological laboratory quickly collapsed, everyone dropped and flew away.

[mitroha]

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

And this is what? PMC employees do not seem to belong to the military. Or is he talking about "little green men"? So they don't seem to ask permission

[Baloo]

After a symmetrical answer at the customs office of Lukashenka and the shock from the GDP, an epiphany came. Deal with, deal with those who got you into this quarrel. 50/50 that Lukashenka needed it to strengthen the regime before the elections. Afraid of being rolled. I do not think that the Maidan of the Belarusian spill will happen again, but .... Think dad, think. A neighbor is closer to a relative, as the Tatars say.

[il-z]

Most likely this farce was an idea of ​​Kolya's half-brother, who heads the republican KGB. If it is true infa that the detainees had to fly to Libya through Turkey to protect the oil infrastructure facilities of the PNS, then they considered that the Russian government would not stand up for them, because supports Haftar.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: il-z

Most likely this farce was an idea of ​​Kolya's half-brother, who heads the republican KGB. If it is true infa that the detainees had to fly to Libya through Turkey to protect the oil infrastructure facilities of the PNS, then they considered that the Russian government would not stand up for them, because supports Haftar.

Brother Kolya has neither ear nor snout to the KGB ...

[mavrus]

Who was this idiotic demarche designed for before the elections?
To the west? It did not work that way, the rhetoric did not change at all, for them ... as it was, it remains - "The last dictator of Europe."
Money and cookies have already been invested in the "Maidan" after his "re-election" and no one is going to call them back.
For Belarusians? So there they all made up their minds long ago ... Whoever is with the Old Man is already with the Old Man. And the opposition believes that all this clowning was started only in order to further tie the security officials with a common crime, before the upcoming (after the "elections") protest actions.

[babylon]

Why such hysteria? Personal interests hurt?
After all, they are paid for, which means that the interest is private and not state

[svp67]

Lukashenko said that many facts are "interesting":
I see our older brothers are silent. They no longer shout that they sent these guys to Istanbul. There was no Istanbul and could not be, as it turned out in practice.

And the statements of the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia Naryshkin and Putin at our Security Council, he FIRSTLY does not want to hear? Maybe it's time to rest ...

[K-612-O]

First he wins the bank, then he screws up our citizens and everyone is to blame for him.
We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

[svp67]

Quote: K-612-O

We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

Until the border has been closed ... it will not work, they will still wind up ...

[K-612-O]

Lukashenka's oak was cut down
And the roof leaked then -
KGB targets got
And it began in a madhouse in the country.
Pompeo calls - the song starts,
And in the Kremlin - he says a fairy tale.
There are miracles: there Wagner wanders,
The mercenary sits on the branches.
There on unknown paths
Traces of unseen zmagars,
Enemies around on chicken legs -
There is pre-election PR.
There a glitch and a share of visions are full,
Waves on the Belarusian Sea.
And thirty-three from PMCs
They come out of the line
On the sandy shore by Thursday.
Their uncle is with them - Shoigu.
There Kolya Korolyovitch
Accompanies the formidable king.
There in the clouds before the people
Through forests, across the seas
The basin covers the ruble.
There are shrimps in the dungeon,
And sprats serve them roughly.
There is a barge with Kostroma naphtha
It goes, floats by itself -
Do not leave your cousin:
"Let's paddle Ukraine!"
He will conduct exercises with NATO
After all, he believes in the USA sacredly.
“Well, what are the debts?
Who should - all enemies!
Vova, Putin, pamagi! "
He will sit on three chairs
Will avoid punishment.
This is what he originally thought
But the sad end came ...
Our Luka wastes over the bulb
Though Belarus ... but Russia smells!
And I was there, and I drank honey;
Luka could not stand the somersault,
Before him is a broken trough ...
He told me his tales. [Max Chepay]

[Observer2014]

К-612-О (Andrey) Thanks to Max Chapay . What is all so allegorical. And no specifics. Probably wants to be a predictor? Well, let this Max speak on literary sites. Chtoli. It’s immediately obvious that such a literary talent is lost. Under A.S. Pushkin, this kind of talent is needed to mow down. :

[K-612-O]

Don't you understand the sarcasm and irony? And what does the poet's innuendo and talent have to do with it?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: K-612-O

We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

And the faster the better
He rushes to the elections more and more

[halpat]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: K-612-O

We ought to recall our ambassador, and expel the Belarusian

And the faster the better
He rushes to the elections more and more

He is pissing and hysterical, and this makes him “brave” like a cornered rat. Hence the actions beyond adequacy.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Halpat

He pisses and hysteria

For ten years already.
But now he understands that the kirdyk comes to his power and therefore it already reaches recklessness

[Kisa]

hmm and who will be worse from this? Pompeo or Bolton who are frequent visitors to Minsk? or the American consul who returned to Minsk that year for the first time since 2008 ..... ???

[K-612-O]

No one is better not worse. We must toughly protect our citizens, and not wipe off after every quirk of the potato dad

[Igor Golov]

It will be worse for Belarus and Belarusians. Lukashenko fulfills the demands of the Americans.

[babylon]

If we are going to retire so only together with ours.

[Dave36]

Ah ah and we will not know the truth ... everyone lies.

[Mavrikiy]

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

What a goof! They are private individuals, albeit with a specific military. preparation.

[svp67]

Quote: Mavrikiy

What a goof! They are private individuals, albeit with a specific military. preparation.

He doesn't care anymore, he is at such a height that he hears only himself ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: svp67

He doesn't care anymore, he is at such a height that he hears only himself ...

Capercaillie on the current.

[Egoza]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Capercaillie on the current.

So this is how the wood grouses are beaten!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mavrikiy

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

He has nothing else to do how to give permission?
Let him sort out the potatoes !!!

[Mountain shooter]

At the daddy's roof specifically "drove off" ... He will play out in conspiracy theories. Guys clearly have nothing to do with it. Why did he start all this? He himself will not answer ... at first he was scared, but now he fusses, does not know how to keep his face.

[aszzz888]

Mountain shooter (Eugene) Today, 06:52 NEW
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At daddy's roof specifically "drove off" ... He will play out in conspiracy theories. Guys clearly have nothing to do with it. Why did he start all this? Will not answer myself... at first he was scared, but now he fusses, does not know how to save his face.

Lukashenka has elections on his nose - 09.08.20/XNUMX/XNUMX Full post below.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

... Why did he start all this? FROM

ELECTIONS,
Russia intervened

[Pessimist22]

Old Man decided to deal with Russia in an adult way, like: Did you want to remove me? I became very bad

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pessimist22

Became completely bad

How many years the power strikes in the head
Yes, and it's time to attach a son to his place

[Nikolai Kotsofana]

You have made porridge now and you are getting out. Prove that they are aimed at destabilizing the pre-election environment.

[Ilshat]

Honestly, I don't really catch up with the meaning of this strange story ...
And what do we care about potato bantustan?
And I suppose this madman will not dare to plant ours ...

[K-612-O]

If he doesn’t put him in prison, he’ll give it out, he’ll start with it, and then, as always, he will face it with a brick.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ilshat

And to plant ours, I guess this crazy one does not dare

He himself will not dare, he will give it to Ukraine

[Dikson]

Do they have it written on their foreheads that they are military personnel? Although why am I .. Prilepin told who they are and where they are fighting .. Trees-winders .. Are our serious offices really so stupid that it is so stupid to plunge out of the blue into such a political guano ..

[magnate]

Rather not "offices", but some "prominent politicians"

[babylon]

it is our oligarchs who support them and primarily protect their interests and not the state

[Igor Golov]

Your offices are under Lukashenka's close relatives.

[Tank jacket]

Get the guys back. Put it where it was.

[aszzz888]

According to Lukashenka, this group had other goals,

And then why should he listen to his entire nomenclature? Either Lukashenka will be blown away, because he is gaining points for himself before the elections, or the consequences will be fraught with the entire RB.

[Lipchanin]

At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

Has the guilt been proven?

At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

What is ???????

After Lukashenka added that only the president can give permission for servicemen to enter Belarus.

They entered the military ID ????
How did he determine that they were military ???

[codetalker]

He's got Soros trying to twist the Maidan, and the eccentric decided to spoil the relationship with his only ally ... Well, this strategist, but the local security forces think where to run when / if the time for "lustration" comes? In Russia? And who will let them in now?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: codetalker

He's got sorrows trying to turn the Maidan

Do you have anything without Soros / Navalny / Maidan? Completely brainwashed?
Come and see how good life is with an irreplaceable "leader", "father of the nation".

When in Minsk, without Luka's knowledge, they are afraid to even INFORM people for more than a day that you shouldn't drink water! They assure that everything is fine. For a minute, half of the capital was left without water, and they could not even report that.
Where the screens deny the death of people and ridicule the doctors, where his proxies answer the same doctors about their salaries, "everything suits me, I work well, and you go to work 2, 3, pick berries in the forest there." And you think it's all paid for?

Of course you think you only have black and white. From the heights of their skyscrapers, MSCs do not see anything.

[codetalker]

Well, in naivety then stop playing ... How does one interfere with the other?

[enky]

The more our corrupt officials scream about Batka's innocence and madness, the less doubts the Kremlin has become obsessed with steering the elections in Belarus. Now Old Man is not sickly inoculated from the Kremlin's desire to steer the elections in Belarus, 28 out of 33 fought in DONBASS and Ukrov is drooling to get them for show trials. It is unlikely that Old Man will drain such a guarantee of non-interference, but the Kremlin has another real chance to dunk its face in the mud. I don’t support, but I don’t condemn Old Man, be in alliance with wolves, howl like a wolf ...

[Ilshat]

The Kremlin is absolutely in that tunnels ?!
33 (okay, 200 ...) people are going to mess up something in the country under 10 million?
This is not serious and strange ...

[carstorm 11]

God ... this is how far one must be to write something like that ... what nafig elections to steer? what is the profit? to bring to power Tikhanovskaya who wants to destroy decades of work? are you out of your mind?

[demo]

All Luke's words, after the committed actions, are nothing more than the need to play to the end a losing game.
Having bound himself with such actions, he definitely crossed all permissible limits.
All he has to do is "raise the stakes in the game."
But it is obvious to everyone that he does not have the necessary proof of guilt or the presence of intent on the part of the guys who were detained.
Luke is a bunch of the most base desires and actions aimed at only one thing - to sit "on a chair."
The country, the people are empty for him.
The main thing is that, as the parrot of Prince Florisei said, "The State is Me".

[enky]

Quote: demo

All Luke's words, after the committed actions, are nothing more than the need to play to the end a losing game.
Having bound himself with such actions, he definitely crossed all permissible limits.
All he has to do is "raise the stakes in the game."
But it is obvious to everyone that he does not have the necessary proof of guilt or the presence of intent on the part of the guys who were detained.

I think you are mistaken about the losing game ... There are chances. Pay attention to the behavior of Old Man during the pseudo-epidemic, compare with the extraordinary unanimity of other preziks - the conclusion: HE DID NOT LISTEN !!! Refused to bankrupt his country and participate in the surrogate replacement of the 3rd World War. It is not difficult to assume that he will not receive the green light in the next elections. And who will be made responsible for removing him? So he has a trump card that neutralizes any attempts by the Kremlin and may well win this game and continue to disobey the owners ...

Quote: demo

Luke is a bunch of the most base desires and actions aimed at only one thing - to sit "on a chair." The country, the people are empty for him. The main thing is that, as the parrot of Prince Florisei said, "The State is Me".

Wah! Show me a prezik who doesn't dream of sitting on his potty forever? Maybe (I'm afraid to say it out loud) The great robber of pensioners and the main Nulland of all times and peoples ??? Dad is a kindergarten bully compared to him, no more ...

[apro]

Quote: Enky

Pay attention to the behavior of the Old Man during the pseudo-epidemic,

You can't argue with that. State guy.

[alexmach]

State-owned, state-owned, but their morbidity statistics are one of the worst in Europe.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: alexmach

only their incidence statistics are one of the worst in Europe.

And I will note that even according to government statistics, we are the worst, and no one will know the true figures.

What are the local facts? Even the first-level students stopped doing tests a long time ago. There is no question of the rest.

Or, as in Poland, with 40.000 infected, there were 900 deaths, and we have 20. And the Russian journalist was thrown out of the country as he showed how many died in one town. More than across the country.

[alexmach]

Well, on the other hand, I live in Tallinn, my relatives are in Ukraine, for at least one quarantine month the only flight that flew daily from our airport was Belavia to Minsk. He continued to fly to Kiev, and for quite reasonable money and was almost the only international transport available at that time. Conveniently.

In addition, the statistics are bad in the neighboring Russia and Poland. Despite the fact that there were quarantine measures in Russia.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Enky

HE DIDN'T LISTEN !!! Refused to bankrupt his country and participate in the surrogate replacement of the 3rd world

Tell this to all those who died from unimposed restrictive measures. Why are there measures, at least official recommendations and a mask regime. And not according to our underestimated statistics, oh not according to her.
By the way, they worked when the others were standing and you know what? National debt grew by 17% We celebrate with the whole country that they produced guano that is not needed by anyone, which lies in warehouses.

Quote: Enky

Show me a prezik who doesn't dream of sitting on his potty forever?

That's why there are LAWS. But not with us. We all see what it has led to. We disentangle with full. Another default is on the doorstep.

[magnate]

As the classic said: - vague doubts gnaw at me about the non-involvement of some interested parties

https://www.belta.by/society/view/sledstvie-obraschaet-vnimanie-na-nestykovki-v-pokazanijah-zaderzhannyh-v-belarusi-rossijan-iz-chvk-400961-2020/
Wouldn't daddy talk about the involvement of "older brothers"

[enky]

Quote: Ilshat

The Kremlin is absolutely in that tunnels ?!
33 (okay, 200 ...) people are going to mess up something in the country under 10 million?
This is not serious and strange ...

With proper preparation, they may well stir up, look at Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, with 54 fighters he muddied a third of the country, it is clear that there was an appropriate background and training, but in Ukropland, after all, not 10 million

[Moskovit]

You asked the question yourself and answered it yourself. In Belarus, everything is completely different. Strelkov would have been packed there in 15 minutes.

[Ilshat]

Not a third, not even close.
And the atmosphere was extremely favorable.
I don't see anything like that in a potato gulag.
As long as the lukashka has a strong terrorist organization, how many of his opponents have "disappeared", etc.
Other forces are needed here.
And preparation.
At least shut off the oil beforehand.

[nobody111body]

they are the same "Russians" like me Mexican-Jews are furious that Lukashenko kept his KGB agents and we immediately dropped the monument to Dzerzhinsky and almost the entire Eltsin network handed over the country and began to tear the country to pieces who are not too lazy, now the articles are

[enky]

Here you are hot, only the word Jews should be replaced with Zionists, the difference is very significant ...

[nobody111body]

in the opinion of the administration of this site, the word "Jew" belongs to the nation - the word "Zionist" is an insult; although the Jews here constantly insult many with the word "anti-Semite" which they consider to be literary

[Moskovit]

Anyone who knows a little bit about the Belarusian realities will laugh at the version that 33 heroes came to overthrow Lukashenka. As the President of Belarus correctly noted, these are soldiers. And to overthrow Lukashenka, political strategists and professional revolutionaries are needed. Liver givers and officers' daughters. This is the domain of the USA and its allies.
My wife's uncle died in Belarus. His relatives sent his wife 300 euros from Germany. She had to go to the KGB and report where and why the money came from. This is an example of control.
So really the special services of Belarus did not know who these guys were and why they were here. Minsk became a Russian transshipment hub during the pandemic. Is this news for Lukashenka too? If anything, he can only run to Russia. He will still be issued from other places.

[uladzimir.surko]

So the question arose to change this to us in Belarus for something !!! ??

[Igor Golov]

It's your problems. And there is no need for provocations. Just choose the one whom you consider necessary for yourself.

[Karaul73]

Quote: unhappy

You go on, we understood your message.
You are "Europeans" and Russians are Asians and they have no democracy ...

Congratulations! Have you learned the truth?

[enky]

Quote: Moskovit

You asked the question yourself and answered it yourself. In Belarus, everything is completely different. Strelkov would have been packed there in 15 minutes.

Strelkov, with his methods ... I do not argue that Belarus is not Ukroplandia, there is no real split in society, but ... there are always "other" methods ... Whole brigades of hired professional agitators, organizers of demonstrations are rolling around countries ... Why should we do not send your own? The fighters from DONBASS, it is clear that they are not, but there is always a division of labor and specialization of groups, some ignite the crowd, others wait in ambush - if the agitators are doing well, battle groups are involved. Remember Beitar 93m in Moscow.

[Guards turn]

Belarusian Cart reports. Lukashenka suffered a heart attack a few days ago.
The press service is silent and hastily looking for old video footage to show the president's activity. All events with his participation were canceled.

[enky]

Quote: codetalker

He's got the Soros trying to twist the Maidan, and the eccentric decided to spoil relations with his only ally ...

Hmm, don't you think that in this case "Sorosyats" and "The only ally" are synonyms?

[enky]

Quote: nobody

in the opinion of the administration of this site, the word "Jew" belongs to the nation - the word "Zionist" is an insult; although the Jews here constantly insult many with the word "anti-Semite" which they consider to be literary

Damn, you are more to the right of the right ... It’s even strange to me that we haven’t been bombarded with garbage yet - on this site there is usually one independent comment, 2 from trolls.

[mag nit]

Even trolls are at a crossroads.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: mag nit

Even trolls are at a crossroads.

It was especially funny to compare the comments of the two articles. One about his rating, where “Old Man” was licked from head to toe, and the second, 30 minutes later, about the detention of the same Russians.

I haven't seen such a quick change of shoes for a long time

[certero]

Let's just say that without Russia Lukashenko will devour the West in a couple of years.
But this is already clear on. But what the hell is going on with us, I do not understand. The impression is that some kind of power struggle is going on within the establishment, hence all sorts of incomprehensible actions.

[north 2]

Russia lost a lot of time to return Belarus to the Russian Empire. AND
signals that Lukashenko was against the revival of the new formation of the Russian Empire was full. These are only signals that are visible to everyone. This is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to Russia's actions saving the peoples of Abkhazia and Ossetia from genocide, this is not the recognition of Abkhazia and Ossetia by Belarus as independent
states, this is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to the actions of Russia saving the Russian world from genocide in
Crimea, this is the non-recognition of Crimea by Belarus as part of the Russian Federation, after, with the help of a democratic referendum, the inhabitants of Crimea returned these lands and themselves to the new formation of the Russian Empire. So these are just those geopolitical signals that Lukashenka is against the revival
Russia, which is in plain sight. And how many more are his hidden actions, about which neither
Putin, neither the Russian Foreign Ministry, nor the news portals. And this is only in geopolitics. How much more in the economy
and in the financial sphere, how much more in defense, where Lukashenka is trying to twirl everything so that Russia
it was as difficult as possible or so that Russia would be expensive
And what will happen if under Lukashenka or without Lukashenka, the United States and NATO scrape together several trillion
dollars to lure Belarus into NATO. Belarus is not that big in terms of population
so that the US and NATO do not find these trillions. And this is not the Baltics. For such a foothold
as the territory of Belarus, NATO will go to any expenses. Only it is necessary that from Belarus they hinted. Of course, then the US and EU will take off their last pants from Belarusians, but who will care,
the main thing is that next to Smolensk and Bryansk, on the NATO bridgehead in Belarus, there will be
US troops and missiles. Moreover, the same is true in Ukraine. So Russia lost a lot of time to start acting really returning its lands to the new formation of the Russian Empire, because it saw that Kuchma and Yushchenko and Yanukovych and Poroshenko and Zelensky in Ukraine and Lukashenko in Belarus
there is against Russia and against the Russian world.
Already yesterday, during an interview with opposition members during the demonstration, all who gave the interview spoke mostly Belarusian or English. So the grains hostile to Russia
whom Lukashenka planted there, will already bear fruit, regardless of who will be in power. The same Lukashenka or the opposition candidate. Russia must take effective steps. But only what steps will be effective ...

[Sklendarka]

Dear, Sever / 2. Writing seems to be correct, but without thinking. I understand that we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot , and you get in touch in a fight, well, we'll see.
You don’t like our language. The question is, why? We also want, ... people zvatstsa ... "You know, Sever / 2, I’ve learned to write and read. our language is a pernicious seed for Russia, then ... what can we talk about.
People who go to rallies (permitted by the Law) are oppa for you. And that these are just ordinary people whom Sasha got 3% and in which for 26 years of steering the country, no ways of rapprochement with Russia were found.
You, all of you stand up for the Russian Empire, and so I tell you, as an imperialist, don't open a stream for someone else's piece.
And with 33 heroes, I'm sure they will figure it out, no one will tell us the truth, and of course I would not like to hear - ... it's okay, women are still giving birth ... ''

[Ilshat]

But not at all Russian and I don't care about your mentality.
But since you live at our expense (yes, not 100%, but enough) so be so kind as to do what we need.
And do not get out.
Whoever dines a girl is her and dances.
If we don’t want it, we don’t get it - pay.
And they tolerate you for too long.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Ilshat

But not at all Russian and I don't care about your mentality.
But since you live at our expense (yes, not 100%, but enough) so be so kind as to do what we need.
And do not get out.
Whoever dines a girl is her and dances.
If we don’t want it, we don’t get it - pay.
And they tolerate you for too long.

I'm already scared, I'm all ddddrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzhzhzhzhzhzhzhuuuu ...

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: north 2

to lure Belarus into NATO

NATO has to pay from 2% of GDP. The Republic of Belarus has no money to pay all the salaries of collective farms, and you mean NATO. Yeah

[enky]

Quote: Leapold

According to Lukashenko, this group had other goals, and now the task of the Belarusian special services is to clarify these goals.

I watched the video, these guys have many tattoos, and this speaks about their views ..
A PMC could at least hire someone with a lot of money .. Here is the goal, to embroil Russia with Belarus. That's the catch! Especially if the liberal media and then, as if on command, raised such a howl .. Father is not stupid enough to detain "Russian citizens" before the elections ..

Those who are right are kicked more painfully ;-) That's right, Old Man is not as stupid as the liberals IMAGE us, but there is still a chance that the "Only Ally" was given the go-ahead to replace Old Man ...

[cniza]

At the same time, the President of the Republic of Belarus declared that the detainees should be treated "carefully." He stated that they were “to blame, but not so much that harsh measures were taken.

And what are they to blame, what was the investigation, the court?

[krops777]

Lukashenka said that “he sees no particular interest in preserving Belgazprombank from Gazprom.

Well, it is understandable always when it comes to money, the AHL has quirks, the only thing that worries me is that the quirks are becoming more and more inadequate, and is everything normal with the psyche of the AHL.

[rocket757]

There is no point in discussing the route of Belarusian politics ... we just state the TOTAL!
And for those who planned the route of the "transit of the private security company" there is a big minus. You have to think with your head, and not with something else.
OUR, now a specific task, our people must be returned HOME !!!

[cniza]

We will return the people, but what about Belarus? Greetings!

[rocket757]

Welcome
The car had to be done even YESTERDAY !!!
I had to do my own country !!!
When "our clever guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their own .... Wishlist, and at home we are not as good as it should be !!! WE will always be in flight! After all, examples, consequences around are already in bulk!
Smart people have long ago identified and expressed that the flirting of "our elite" with other "elite" is obviously a losing option !!! Because the external plays, our enemies, a lot of experienced, RICHER and in the means of influence are not limited in any way and never !!!
What was the only chance of maintaining good relations ??? No matter how trite it sounds, this is FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES, OUR GREAT COMMON HISTORY !!!
But for this it was necessary / there was remained an ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE!
The question is - what, in fact, are we attractive, an example to which the former can seek to join ???
And I have NO POSITIVE ANSWER!
That's it!
For a long time you can talk on this topic, I just don't want to, I'm tired of smearing the obvious on a plate ..... it's obvious to me that at this rate, WE WILL STAY ALONE, surrounded by no friends, at least.

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

I had to do my own country !!!
When "our smart guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their .... Wishlist

Quote: rocket757

flirting "our elite" with other "elite", this is obviously a losing option !!!

gold words! I said this a year or two ago, but the example of Ukraine did not teach the authorities anything.

[rocket757]

If you delve into history, it turns out that this is exactly what different wise people said.
As well as similar events happened before and more than once!
Nothing fundamental in human society has changed, it's just that events began to happen faster due to the increase in the speed of dissemination of ideas, information ... an age of high speeds, that's the whole difference!

[mag nit]

Quote: rocket757

people must be returned HOME !!!
Reply

Why go home? They also went to guard something in Turkey, Sudan, Libya. Let Luke let them go and tell them to be met there. As if they did not get lost again.

[rocket757]

No difference. This is their choice. If here, at home, there are no official claims to them !!! They must be released and go wherever they want.
I hope such issues will be resolved according to the law, and not in the way someone wanted.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: rocket757

There is no point in discussing the route of Belarusian politics ... we just state the TOTAL!
And for those who planned the route of the "transit of the private security company" there is a big minus. You have to think with your head, and not with something else.
OUR, now a specific task, our people must be returned HOME !!!

YOURS have already divided the prepayment, and HOME had to pull them out before the LOGO ...

[rocket757]

High-quality work, high-quality provocation, not diligent workers.
Remember, shake it on a mustache, how it grit ... if there is someone who has a mustache.

[7,62x54]

I'd like to see how the father will deal with the one who sent them, and then how they will deal with the father.

[enky]

Quote: North 2

And there were a lot of signals that Lukashenka was against the revival of the new formation of the Russian Empire ... this is also Lukashenka's strange reaction to Russia's actions saving the Russian world in Crimea from genocide, this is the non-recognition of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation by Belarus, after the residents Crimea, these lands and themselves returned to the new formation of the Russian Empire. So these are only those geopolitical signals that Lukashenko is against the revival of Russia, which are in full view of everyone. And how many more are his hidden actions, about which neither
Putin, no Russian Foreign Ministry, no news portals

If the Russian world had to be saved where it was, so obviously not in Crimea and not in DONBASS, but in Kiev, does anyone really believe that the preparation for the Maidan was a surprise for the FSB? Then what were they waiting for, they allowed the entire power elite of Ukraine to be recruited and paralyzed ... So they expected to squeeze Crimea against the background of the turmoil ... The revival of the Russian world is not even the last in line, it was not even allowed into this line.

[Aleks2000]

Ha. All climb in the comments in front of the daddy into hell.

I remember here the Goblin, with his eternal "investigation will show" to such a thing.

[1536]

"Here he (the old man) goes to the blue sea,
He sees a black storm on the sea:
And the angry waves swelled
So they walk, so howl and howl.
He began to click the goldfish.
A fish came to him, asked:
"What do you need, older?"
Her old man with a bow replies:
“Have mercy, Empress fish!
What should I do with the damned woman?
She doesn’t want to be the queen,
He wants to be the mistress of the sea;
To live in the Sea of ​​Okiyan,
That you yourself served her
And I would have been on her premises. ”
The fish said nothing
Just a tail splashed across the water
And went into the deep sea.
For a long time by the sea he was waiting for an answer,
I didn’t wait, I turned back to the old woman -
Look: again, before him is a dugout;
On the threshold sits his old woman,
And before her a broken trough. "
(A.S. Pushkin, Russian poet)

[Inorus]

"I see our older brothers fell silent
"-You are not a brother to me AHL!

[Operator]

Hike, Rygorych crap in full and turned on the reverse speed.

[antishefff]

Yes, everything is on the surface, Georgia is flourishing without damned Russians, the Baltic jackals are flourishing, now Ukraine has been showing economic miracles for 6 years already, so But Father looks and also wants, for ... Bali these Russians, everyone will be better without them)) )

[enky]

Quote: Moskovit

So really the special services of Belarus did not know who these guys were and why they were here. Minsk became a Russian transshipment hub during the pandemic. Is this news for Lukashenka too?

You did not carefully study the course of events or deliberately distort information for those who are not aware of the details. In any state, military transit countries receive close attention from the special services, so there is no need to distort, this particular group aroused keen interest with its non-standard behavior: problems with leaving the Russian Federation at the Russian (NOT Belarusian) border, purchased plane tickets with departure upon arrival at airport and immediately booked hotel rooms, departure of the plane without a group, the group will not fly for another 3 days and check out of the hotel with an attempt to inject misinformation about the final departure and at the same time check into a sanatorium ... About discrepancies during interrogation and data from them phones about the arrival of other groups and there is nothing to say ... The people are surprised as if they had never heard of snipers on the Maidan and Beitar in Moscow in 93 ...

[andrew42]

Well, many here have convulsions from the fact that Lukashenka got angry with the subject "Belarus is not a front yard!" How dare he! Ramsey beguiled! Immediately such a screaming crowd of commentators with a disconnected brain. Now, if it turns out that the movement of the groups was coordinated, and Lukashenka made a somersault "out of course", then yell with good obscenities. In the meantime, there is nothing to shout about.

[rocket757]

A well-conducted provocation, and so on time !!! Yes, how many of them at once !!!
This is how the flimsy alliances based on agreements between the "elites" are being destroyed!
This is how ties are broken, faith, memory, brotherly peoples are earned in the mud !!! After all, the generation that remembers and believes is LEAVING !!! And it is being replaced, prepared, received, completely different and with different ideas ... they are also our people, only with completely knocked down landmarks.

... We rode at a pace
We raced in battles
And "Yablochko" -song
Kept in the teeth.
Ah, this song
Still stores
Young grass -
Steppe malachite.

But the song is different
About the far land
Drove my friend
With him in the saddle.
He sang, looking around
Native land:
"Grenada, Grenada,
My Granada! ”

He is this song
Told by heart ...
Where did the lad
Spanish sadness?
Answer, Aleksandrovsk,
And Kharkov, answer:
Long time in spanish
Did you start singing

Tell me, Ukraine
Isn't this rye
Taras Shevchenko
Is the daddy lying?
Where are you from, buddy?
Your song:
"Grenada, Grenada,
My Grenada? ”

He hesitates with an answer,
Dreamer Ukrainian:
- Brother! Grenada
I found in the book.
Beautiful name,
High honor -
Grenada parish
In Spain there is!

I left the hut
I went to fight
To land in Grenada
Peasants give.
Farewell, dear!
Goodbye family!
"Grenada, Grenada,
My Granada! ”

We raced dreaming
Comprehend as soon as possible
Grammar of the battle -
Battery language.
Sunrise rose
And fell again
And the horse is tired
Jump in the steppes.

But "Bullseye" is a song
Played squadron
Bows of suffering
On the violins of the times ...
Where, buddy
Your song:
"Grenada, Grenada,
My Grenada? ”

Pierced body
The ground has slipped
Comrade for the first time
Left the saddle.
I saw: over the corpse
The moon has declined
And dead lips
They whispered: "Grena ..."

Yes. To a faraway area
To the sky-high reach
My friend left
And he took the song.
Since then not heard
Native land:
"Grenada, Grenada,
My Granada! ”

The detachment did not notice
Fighter losses
And "Yablochko" -song
Finished to the end.
Only the sky is quiet
Sliding after a while
To the sunset velvet
A tear of rain ...

New songs
Invented life ...
No need guys
To poke the song
Don't, don't,
No, friends ...
Grenada, Grenada,
Granada is mine!

Wonderful song, wonderful words! What would our ancestors say, looking at US? WHAT ARE WE MAKING?

[enky]

https://www.belta.by/society/view/sledstvie-obraschaet-vnimanie-na-nestykovki-v-pokazanijah-zaderzhannyh-v-belarusi-rossijan-iz-chvk-400961-2020/

Quote: antishefff

Yes, everything is on the surface, Georgia is flourishing without damned Russians, the Baltic jackals are flourishing, now Ukraine has been showing economic miracles for 6 years already, so But Father looks and also wants, for ... Bali these Russians, everyone will be better without them)) )

So I see, and Russia, mother, without damned Georgians, dastardly ukrov and jackals of the Baltic states, is also flourishing - the price of oil collapsed, and we once raised the price of gasoline, schools and hospitals have already closed 50%, when all smart and healthy they are not needed , the retirement age has been raised, I feel immortality is already close, it remains to get rid of Belarus, THEN WE WILL LIVE ...

[antishefff]

My dear, nothing will change from your distortions, even if you say at least write on the fence))), how many things have opened and closed, I myself can see very well and all the infa is in the public domain))), speech about the decline is for Pepsiplov, I traveled all over the Southern Federal District and definitely the dynamics are positive, but not because everyone wants everything and immediately does not do a fucking thing, but nevertheless.

[andrew42]

So go on Kruzak drove, or something like that. It's shitty to see through the tint, and to lower the glass - the air conditioner plowed in vain. Are the dynamics positive? - well, if the dynamics of acceleration of the car, yes.

[Igor Golov]

There was a hope that he was healthy and he was ill. The spectacle is generally sad - the Americans make a piece of killed shit out of it on the air.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: rocket757

Welcome
The car had to be done even YESTERDAY !!!
I had to do my own country !!!
When "our clever guys" climb, climb, somewhere with their own .... Wishlist, and at home we are not as good as it should be !!! WE will always be in flight! After all, examples, consequences around are already in bulk!
Smart people have long ago identified and expressed that the flirting of "our elite" with other "elite" is obviously a losing option !!! Because the external plays, our enemies, a lot of experienced, RICHER and in the means of influence are not limited in any way and never !!!
What was the only chance of maintaining good relations ??? No matter how trite it sounds, this is FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES, OUR GREAT COMMON HISTORY !!!
But for this it was necessary / there was remained an ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE!
The question is - what, in fact, are we attractive, an example to which the former can seek to join ???
And I have NO POSITIVE ANSWER!
That's it!
For a long time you can talk on this topic, I just don't want to, I'm tired of smearing the obvious on a plate ..... it's obvious to me that at this rate, WE WILL STAY ALONE, surrounded by no friends, at least.

Let me argue with you ...
Friends are, were and will be. It's just that many people want that we could not play in the same sandbox.

[Erema]

You don’t need to think too much, I don’t think Luka is "shaking and rushing about," read "our" media less, he is not that much "

[Igor Golov]

Quote: Skalendarka

You understand, we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot, and you will be contacted in a fight, well, we'll see.

Just like with Lukashenka, yes. Chosen for the promise of a Union State with Russia. When he threw you off with election promises, you chose him again. And then he liked it. You are so careful.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Igor Golov

Quote: Skalendarka

You understand, we are Russians (although I consider myself Russian) a little different mentality. In order to take the next step, we (Belarusians) will see where we will put our foot, and you will be contacted in a fight, well, we'll see.

Just like with Lukashenka, yes. Chosen for the promise of a Union State with Russia. When he threw you off with election promises, you chose him again. And then he liked it. You are so careful.

Those people who chose him in 94 have long since died. Well, and then it was the following: referendums, reworking the Constitution and other crap ... but what can I tell you, you have the same vagabond.
But now 26 years have passed and suddenly they say to him, Sasha, move over, we want another master, and you play with your grandchildren there, grow watermelons with cybuli, well, smoke a hookah ...
No, says the tsar Shklovsky, I want more, more, more and ... more and shtob all on the parcels ...

[Rostislav]

When God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his reason.
We have an illustrative example.

[steelmaker]

"Although the details of the case are investigative secrets, Noskevich shared some information. Investigators found inconsistencies in the testimonies of the detainees. Intending to fly to Istanbul via Minsk, the group for some reason drove past the airport and checked into the IBB hotel in Minsk, and then to the Belorusochka sanatorium in Zhdanovichi, where the seats were pre-booked. At the same time, the administration of the hotel, the Russians allegedly said that they were going to the airport. more groups from Russia. "
I'm also wondering who sent them and for what purpose? The main thing is that Lukashenka does not give them to Ukraine!

[Sibguest]

"We need to deal with those who sent them here ..."
"Razbiralovka" is too small to wave it against Russia!
I would drink valerian with vodka in silence and wait for August 9th.

[Inorus]

Quote: Leapold

Quote: Inorus

Ha ... then it's time to drive tanks or something like in Hungary and Czechoslovakia?)))))

I would lead a tank brigade (after art and missile processing) .. Reading people like you here! What do you think your time has come? You obviously underestimate Russia and Russians ..
These are the things in the Ural tank divisions ..
PS The USA will set you up and then there will be no one to whine .. Think about it!

You really tell me pliz to the wretched-you got together in Belarus with a tank brigade? Or how?

[Guards turn]

Vladimir Vysotsky - Song About a Friend. If a friend suddenly turns out to be
And not a friend, and not an enemy - but so...
If you do not understand right away,
Is he good or bad
Pull the guy to the mountains - take a risk! -
Do not leave him alone,
Let him be in connection with you -
There you will understand who it is.

If a guy in the mountains - not ah,
If you immediately become limp - and down,
Stepped onto the glacier - and wilted,
I stumbled and screamed
So next to you is a stranger,
Don't scold him, drive him away,
They don’t take those up, and here
They don't sing about people like that...

[Andr_38]

Most likely, Lukashenko’s regime is living its last days; August 9 is not long left. And I don’t feel sorry for this fool at all, that’s what I fought for, and that’s what I ran into. For the West, he will never become one of his own, because he is “the last dictator of Europe,” and he is actively destroying bridges with Russia with his own hands. He can’t even be accepted into Rostov, there’s no reason for him to do there, let him go to North Korea for permanent residence!

[123456789]

Quote: figvam

And where are the other 170 private security companies? Are they still hiding or weren't there?
The real overthrow from the West has long been paid for and is ready. A victory sign, a fist, a heart and drugs for the protesters must have been delivered, free tea and soup on the square will be available to everyone.

Quote: gurzuf

With these persons - on a bypass to earn a budget

Tahiti, Tahiti! We have never been to Tahiti, and they feed us well here too."

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Eh, Rygorych, Rygorych... He got completely overplayed, threatened, got confused... But no one is to blame for this except you!!! You will win, of course, these elections without a choice. What next???

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

What next???

History develops in a spiral, after the elections, Lukashenko’s Tonton Macoutes suppress protests, throw the organizers into prison, detained Russians are expelled, Kolka’s dad declares himself the savior of the Belarusian state and the defender of independence from encroachments from both the West and the East, and then, as always, begs for a meeting with Putin, the promise of the Union State, the opening of the Belarusian nuclear power plant, long bargaining on the unification of legislation, on a single currency... In short, until the next elections Maybe I'm wrong, time will tell

[Vladimir Mashkov]

All this is predictable and expected. I’m just not at all convinced that the Russian government will continue to play the role of a fool in an endless series with an arrogant blackmailer.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I’m just not at all convinced that the Russian government will continue to play the role of a fool in an endless series with an arrogant blackmailer.

I agree, Russian goodies for Lukashenko’s table will be significantly reduced, but we have Putin’s stability, there are the same hari (oh faces) around, with their cockroaches in their heads, why change anything in old age and there are already enough problems

[Sasha Minakov]

The mustachioed cockroach is our main ally. Don't forget guys. :-)

[Andr_38]

Quote: Sasha Minakov

The mustachioed cockroach is our main ally. Don't forget guys. :-)

With such allies there is no need for enemies.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_pictures/2993843/52628134-1596354147521/orig

[Polente the Wanderer]

Belgazprombank is practically the property of Gazprom. The controlling stake in Gazprom is owned by the state. It turns out that Lukash took money from Russia...

[Brturin]

It’s not entirely clear there yet... almost a week ago - Head of the National Bank Pavel Kallaur “Now the parties are thinking about how to proceed in this situation. We are waiting for proposals from the Russian side to update the board... after certain discussions with the owner, we could jointly decide on the future fate of the bank.” But it looks like there was an answer - AHL "You see that some countries, including the Russians, have limited external limits for Belarusian banks... Each banker must personally answer what kind of money he attracted from foreign markets and on what best terms. Sitting "You can't do this in the office of the National Bank. You must have extensive contacts. And not only with Russians, but also in Europe, America, China, and other places in order to attract financial resources." And here, in addition to enterprises, people are buying foreign currency...Belarusians in the first half of the year bought $658,2 million more foreign currency than they sold

[Pandiurin]

Anecdote:

One classmate invites another:

- come, we’ll relax in nature, barbecue, fish, you know what kind of nature we have here in Belarus, just take clothes for relaxation, like camouflage, ankle boots.

- no, no, it’s better if you come to us, we have a forest plantation next to a multi-storey forest where dogs can be walked, you can look for mushrooms, the nature is so-so, but there won’t be any bloody hell.

[Courier]

Crushes the fifth column and the damned liberals, well done

[Gunter prereen]

Yesterday I met a group of Belarusians at the gardener's. Everyone looked suspicious, dirty, unwashed, armed with axes and bottles of alcohol mixture. Called the police. We are waiting for an attempt to revolutionize gardening.

[Local from the Volga]

That's Luke's whole idea!!!

[andrew42]

Nothing is clear yet. For how much foam there is on the lips of those commenting! Some are for “Old Man is right,” although Old Man got into trouble many times with his quirks. Others "Bring back the Russian guys!" - what Russian guys? Those who were hired by someone who knows not where, but for money? Like the basileus from that cartoon, I’ll ask the question: “Where are the Russians here? Are these or something?” I wonder since when did contract mercenaries become “Russian guys”?! They went to protect us, your mother/sister? Some kind of nonsense, a complete displacement of normal concepts. It’s a no-brainer that Luka has spouted some kind of nonsense, and moreover, it’s nonsense in form, in fact - it’s not yet clear. And the fact that Lukashenko does not hand over Belarus to the Moscow oligarchs is a good thing for him!!! These creatures have already dried up all of Russia like a roach. In the end, the AHL has the right to distribute to its home-grown bigwigs - the same as Putin - no more / no less. Of course, in my life I am for the unification of Belarus and Russia, but not with this Capitalist Russia. God forbid Belarusians to have such happiness. Three dozen “effective managers” will be integrated. the rest will then howl “Where are you, Father?!”

[Old26]

Quote: Shooter22

they call the detained Russians

They are already saying in the Russian media that they are now not detained, but arrested. And what for any evidence when there was a team...

Quote: Vol4ara

So, from Old Man’s point of view, they did not have time to commit an illegal act. You don't have to kill someone to be detained.

You wrote it correctly. You don't have to stab someone to be detained. But then there must be concrete evidence against you that would allow for preventive detention. The knife must be sharpened, or at worst a knitting needle. And if this evidence is not there, any lawyer will prove that the case is a dead giveaway. Which is essentially what happened. Apparently, the investigation has no evidence, if only speculation, and the “opinions” sitting at the top that they are guilty.
This is very reminiscent of the old joke when a man is tried for moonshine only because a moonshine still was found in his house. In response to the remark that look, it’s all covered in dust, in cobwebs, and I didn’t use it, the prosecutor remarks: “So what, it’s a device.”
To which the man asks to be tried for rape as well. In response to the prosecutor’s response, “You didn’t rape anyone,” the defendant modestly declares: “Well, there is a device.”
Something similar is in Minsk. The command was carried out, but there was no evidence, and the “inventions” began on the part of the investigation...

Quote: K-612-O

that the MZKT, which had to be nationalized, so that it would not give up and as a result our army is moving to BASES

The main consumers of MZKT were the Strategic Missile Forces. Air defense has long since moved to BASES. And the replacement of MZKT is KAMAZ and its “Platform” project

Quote: apro

But he kept the factories and production ...

Saved. Really, who will need the same MZKT chassis if Russia abandons them? Will they sell to China? So they have been cooperating with them for a long time and the Chinese are unlikely to buy them in commercial quantities. They’ll buy 5 pieces for reengineering - and that’s it. There will only be one buyer left - the DPRK... With volumes of 3-4 chassis per year.... That's it. that the plant saved, but the market lost

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Old26

The main consumers of MZKT were the Strategic Missile Forces. Air defense has long since moved to BASES.

Not that long ago. Almakh-Antey bought BAZ only in December 2015. While the plant was being restored, while production was being established... in general, at first only tractors from the same S-400 were able to be transferred to a domestic chassis. And only recently did BAZs begin to replace the remaining heavy chassis of the complex.

[enky]

Quote: Rostislav

When God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his reason.
We have an illustrative example.

This is true, but clearly not about Lukashenko. Yesterday I monitored the news, forums and in general the picture is very clear - just like in the elections, just like in the Skripal case, and in any situations requiring crowd control, standard propaganda mechanisms are included: First - in the opinion of a non-specialist Paradoxical, the Kremlin is united holding hands with Navalny, Novosti Superpower and other oppositionists, they unanimously spit on Old Man; The second mechanism is Ridicule, a lower level, but it works flawlessly on the crowd - here the Kremlin trolls, hand in hand with victims of propaganda, witnesses of the arrival of the coronavirus and TV news addicts, are ridiculing Lukashenko and Belarusians in general with all their might... A systemic go-ahead has been given to kill Lukashenko at all levels and Ridicule here is the main sign that makes it possible to understand who they are trying to deprive of reason (and not God at all) - such systematicity allows us to unmistakably assume that after Lukashenko’s willfulness regarding Covid with his refusal to wet his economy, his days are numbered and the Kremlin received the “go-ahead” to replace the master of Belarus. By the way, this site is like a litmus test, since it is completely orchestrated by Internet trolls, so that, God forbid, the stratum of the population with military training does not start thinking and paying attention to the inconsistencies of official propaganda... A golden field for NLP psychologists, I suspect they are dissertations in batches from this site scribbling ;-)

[enky]

Quote: rocket757

A well-conducted provocation, and so on time !!! Yes, how many of them at once !!!
This is how the flimsy alliances based on agreements between the "elites" are being destroyed!
This is how ties are broken, faith, memory, brotherly peoples are earned in the mud !!! After all, the generation that remembers and believes is LEAVING !!! And it is being replaced, prepared, received, completely different and with different ideas ... they are also our people, only with completely knocked down landmarks.
What would our ancestors say when they look at US? WHAT ARE WE DOING?

You are absolutely right here, I don’t remember someone, one of the enemies said: In order to defeat the Russians, it is necessary to tear the Ukrainians away from them... They have already torn everyone away from us and with our help, only the Belarusians remained, but it’s okay, we will help them break away and from this moment on, the prelude to the Harvard-Houston plan to dismember Russia will end and we will begin to divide ourselves, turning into oil and banana plantations of the West. Therefore, if there are non-trolls here laughing at Belarusians, think if you can, are you laughing at yourself?

[enky]

Quote: alexmach

State-owned, state-owned, but their morbidity statistics are one of the worst in Europe.

But this is a lie, as a doctor working with respiratory patients, I have not a shadow of a doubt, all the data on Covid is falsified and twisted in any favorable direction. Take Belgium and Sweden, 10 million people each, Sweden did not introduce quarantine, wah-wah 3 thousand dead, what a horror... And Belgium injected itself with everything it could into all natural and unnatural orifices and 5 thousand died. How so? In my city, on March 22, there were 2 new Covid cases on the day, and after 2 months of isolation, muzzles and gloves there are already 170 of them per day, and after another 2 sunny weeks, during which the transmission of respiratory viruses stops, there are already 190 new cases per day... Does this statistic remind you of anything? Reminds me of "Visiting a Fairy Tale". So there is no point in blaming the Belarusians if they have a crooked face... Better read professors Gundarov, Filatov, Zverev, you’ll see at least some of the propaganda will fade out of your head.

[Camrad]

The population density in Sweden is approximately 20 times less than the population density in Belgium.

[babylon]

Belarusians are lucky to have Lukashenko; in Russia, we would have such a business executive president that our snickering oligarchy would be put in its place and show them their place

[babylon]

Let him make it public what kind of oligarchs they are sitting on, then it will become clearer what they were doing in Belarus

[Pacifist]

hmm... he was the chairman of the collective farm, and remains so. The whistle is empty. The older brothers answered you right away and don’t see the point in repeating it stupidly. A small-town prince sits and clings to power, demonstratively craps under the doors of those who fed him, in order to show a seemingly united Europe how independent he is. Disgusting.

[Orjo79]

I have a question for the Russian government: why don’t we legalize PMCs? What kind of freedom is this among the pocket armies of the oligarchs? This is not the first time that PMCs are dragging us into a scandal, all at the expense of Russia’s authority. The article of the Criminal Code of mercenarism has not been repealed. The state is either a cross... or cowards... Or does the Criminal Code only work against protesters?
Belarus is not closed and the PMC is covering itself by launching from Minsk. But not everyone is waiting for PMCs in Africa with flowers, perhaps Old Man is already being blamed, but we are indignant - where do American weapons come from in Donbass. And the personnel is even cooler. Why does Belarus need to cover Russian PMCs? The position of some VO users is surprising; they are also indignant at how they weren’t allowed to fly! So fly from Russia, or do you want to again between the trickles of rain? Look, the plane of Svetlana Medvedeva, and not only her, flies around the world despite the pandemic. Our people are shyly hiding behind private security companies, who will believe that private security companies were going to Africa? There are enough guards there. But not everyone will climb under bullets.
Yes, they (PMCs) do not have a flag, but they are still identified with Russia. Because of them, we have already suffered shame. I myself fought 3 times and I will say that without the flag of the Motherland I would not have gone into battle. I have no right to judge fighters for their choice, although the excuse that “life is like this” is in favor of the poor. It’s clear who earns money for the operation of a mother (sister, brother, child). Who can give his wife a good car... Among PMCs, not all of them, but there are such rubbish, expelled from the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are even criminals. Well, God bless them, they are interested in something else. Why do their leaders, the Prigozhins, drag us into conflicts? Most likely, our “Prigozhins” came to an agreement with the Belarusian “Prigozhins”, and they highlighted this to Old Man. Did he have the right to be offended? Of course I did. After all, it was not Belarusians who were found in Russia, but Russians in Belarus. I pray to God that the PMC’s target was Africa, and not the Republic of Belarus, otherwise we will wash ourselves in shame again.
PS It is apparently very profitable for our authorities not to legitimize the “ichtamnets”, we want everything between trickles. You know whose style this is.
The bottom line is that the leadership of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the special services have once again screwed up and spoiled Russia.
Maybe that’s enough? It’s indecent to behave like that abroad, and even more so in the fraternal Republic of Belarus.
And to the “clip bearers” personally, minus or minus, you will still see...You are few, but there are many of us, true patriots.

[Berg berg]

We need to deal with you, who were in the know and decided to hand over the names to Western curators, ruining their Western trip. They promised a lot at meetings with the baidans, but the brothers, brothers, got so fired up!

[Nikolai Korovin]

Old Man has been trying to sit on two chairs for a long time. And the chairs are slowly moving apart, moving apart... He needs to decide which one will be more comfortable. Otherwise, he seems to think that if he quickly jumps from one chair to another, then no one will notice, and each of the chair owners will think that he is sitting on his chair. He also puts an ottoman on the side just in case. But the ottoman definitely doesn’t work here.

[slavatvp]

A collective farm rat, let's see what he sings a little later.

[enky]

Quote: carstorm 11

can break down for a bunch of reasons. even the most commonplace) okay. believe about the revolutionaries, your business. I personally am not going to believe in this nonsense)

In 1993, people like you also didn’t believe in Beitar working in Moscow, and what did we get in the end?

[enky]

Quote: Ilshat

No idea.
We don't have small Russian towns here.
But you should not compare the minimum and average.

Have you tried lowering the tinted glass of your Cruiser and looking out into the world? I recommend. At the same time, it’s worth remembering the classic’s quote: “They are terribly far from the people.”

[enky]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Tell this to all those who died from unimposed restrictive measures. Why are there measures, at least official recommendations and a mask regime. And not according to our underestimated statistics, oh not according to her.

Well, you don’t treat doctors... I work with respiratory patients and have been consulting at an infectious diseases hospital for 5 years, so your belief in the mask regime does not evoke any emotions other than laughter and condolences. Natural, annual mortality statistics are announced to all of you with the corresponding gasps and sighs, and this is enough for the herd’s brain to turn off and the wits are no longer enough to listen not to TV, but for example to professor epidemiologist Gundarov (quote: mortality from pneumonia this year is the lowest in 20 years ), director of the Institute of Vaccines and Serums Zverev, his deputy Filatov, monitor the research of Norwegian and German virologists, data from the Los Angeles Institute... oh well, yes, for this we need to think, but why, if the TV thinks for us? Continue to wear muzzles as a herd, but don’t be surprised when you see a sign above the gate that says “Meat Processing Plant”