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The last exit to the sea: the Lun ekranoplan will become the main exhibit of the Patriot park

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The last exit to the sea: the Lun ekranoplan will become the main exhibit of the Patriot park

The world's only ekranoplan will no longer rust in its eternal parking lot in Kaspiysk. "Lun" in the last stories once went to the Caspian Sea for towing to Derbent, where he will become the main exhibit of the Patriot park under construction. According to the Ministry of Defense, the operation to transport the ekranoplan across the Caspian Sea took 14 hours.


The Russian military moved the only ekranoplan "Lun" from Kaspiysk to Derbent. The towing, which involved three tugs, three escort boats and forty servicemen, took 14 hours. The ekranoplan itself was supported on the water using rubber pontoons and pulled by tugs. Excavation work was required to bring the missile carrier ashore.

The incredible dimensions and technical characteristics of the ekranoplan made it a modern legend. "Lun" will become the center of the future "Patriot" park, where open history lessons, rallies of the "Youth Army" and other youth events will take place

- said the head of Derbent Khizri Abakarov.


Recall that the Lun ekranoplan was built in 1986, modifications and various types of tests took place until 1989, the ekranoplan was listed in the 236th battalion of the Caspian ekranoplane ships flotilla, however, since the beginning of the 90s, he did not make more flights, he was on the territory of the Dagdizel plant in Kaspiysk, where he rusted in the open air.

The length of the car is 73 meters, the wingspan is 44 meters. The speed reached 500 km / h, and the cruising range - up to 2000 km. The maximum take-off weight was 380 tons. Eight gas turbine engines NK-8 helped the flight. It is armed with six Soviet Moskit anti-ship missiles.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 1 August 2020 07: 57 New
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    The last exit to the sea: the Lun ekranoplan will become the main exhibit of the Patriot park
    soldier "What else to say? Farewell to the symbol of the power of the bygone era!" hiAlthough not for scrap they handed over. It's already good.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 August 2020 17: 41 New
      +1
      One of the remains of a highly developed civilization
  2. Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 1 August 2020 08: 01 New
    +6
    Ruins and remains of a highly developed civilization ... Galoshes ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 1 August 2020 09: 35 New
      +5
      An impact ekranoplan requires infrastructure.
      This is a specially designed floating dock. And there was Lun.
      Lunyu, plus to the floating dock of a special building, you need:
      1. Tugs for dragging the floating dock.
      2. Railway tracks and a special berth for transportation from the floating dock to the shore, to the repair area.
      3. An icebreaker to ensure take-off in winter.
      4. Ice collector to clean the ice that has been chopped up by the icebreaker.
      5. All radio equipment that is at the airfield and which is necessary for flight support, drives, radar, radio communications, etc.
      6. Fuel infrastructure.
      7. Rembaza, because it is impossible to overtake it like an airplane to some aircraft repair plant, it will not be done at the shipyard either, a special floating dock is needed, so do not drag it there.
      8. As soon as there are several Lunes, in order not to buy a floating dock for everyone, special berths will be needed. In a storm-protected harbor, with breakwaters or breakwaters.
      And all this if there is an airfield nearby, 5 km away, which ALREADY IS.
      What will all this fuss give in return for something that is not now? Nothing + Lun size with MRK and can be destroyed without problems.
      1. Taoist
        Taoist 1 August 2020 09: 59 New
        +9
        Well, why the heck is the icebreaker in the south not clear? Well, why does he need a floating dock? In general, all these machines used slips safely. Regarding the rembase, they also hung up ... The usual ARZ served them on the engines and the inspection and current repair of the hull was carried out on the same slip ... At one time I wanted to transfer to these machines by a technician - so I know how they are serviced. While afloat, they are refueled from an ordinary tanker. On land from standard TK. They did not require any specific infrastructure. The same VTOL aircraft were more difficult to service ...
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 1 August 2020 10: 07 New
          +1
          Just thinking aloud about the thesis of some universality of a large (medium) ekranoplan.
          Which, in fact, can only be based on a base specially equipped for it. For example, an ekranoplan flew to Sevastopol. Until they drag him into the Sevastopol Bay, until they put him somewhere to the pier (where?), The tugboats will "caress" him and attach him to the pier that he will go back disassembled. And so everywhere except the native Kaspiysk! A special dock for Lunya is the most complex infrastructure. AND
          were there sloping concrete slips everywhere? The ekranoplan arrived and sat down. And then the storm! It is generally better to leave Novorossiysk during Bora for example.
          And how to save him? Yes, and cover the ekranoplan going at a speed of 360 km / h with fighters, which have an optimal cruise of more than 700 km / h.
          Moreover, fighters can now solve the problem without an ekranoplan cheaper, farther and faster. They are armed with anti-ship missiles.
          The capabilities of ekranoplanes have been studied along and across, no one in the world has invested in them like that.
        2. tlauicol
          tlauicol 1 August 2020 10: 08 New
          +4
          Caspian. On the shore and at sea.


          (C) "All these machines have been using slips safely" - okay? And they were dragged up the Volga to repair them. On a barge, not under its own power, but
          1. Taoist
            Taoist 1 August 2020 13: 35 New
            +3
            It is clear that since they were built in Nizhny, they were sent there to the plant.
            As for the slips, do you know that we also had hydroaviation? In Sevastopol, I would have sat on the same Donuzlav without any problems. The eaglet, in general, did without slips ...
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 1 August 2020 15: 27 New
              0
              You argue about shock EP. The eaglet is not a shock EP. Hydroaviation and from the airfield can, moreover, faster and further, incl. and over the mountains. But give Lunya a dock. Well, why the heck is he needed there? To dock for a few hours? Instead of immediately launching a rocket from the Bastion or raising aircraft.
              Yes, and on the Donuzlav spit there are structures and power lines, but it cannot be an airplane - it will have to be taken out into the sea and land in the sea, and then into the Donuzlav passage. Weather permitting. Why is this all? Long and expensive?
              1. Taoist
                Taoist 2 August 2020 15: 19 New
                0
                Yes, Lun did not need a dock ... The fact that it was used for the experimental machine for convenience does not mean that he needed it. Equipping a slip is not a problem at all.
                Yes, there are enough of them.
                Lun was no different from the MRK except in speed and high-speed range - which made it easier to maneuver forces. They are even comparable in size and armament. There were IRAs on hydrofoils, there were IRAs "skegovye" - Lun is an IRA with a "dynamic air cushion" - everyone has their own advantages and disadvantages. This is not a wunderwaffe (it does not exist by definition), but an original and quite powerful combat vehicle.
                For some reason, there is no dispute about the advisability of having RTOs.
            2. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 1 August 2020 20: 20 New
              0
              In Sevastopol, I would have sat on the same Donuzlav and without any problems ....... along the way you beguiled. Donuzlav is almost 180 km from Sevas ... well, in general, Dzheyrans and a couple of Bison were based near Novoozernoye, (and our 7th Search and Rescue Brigade), and so a little closer to the boom gate in Mirny Be-shki were based. with everything you need on the wall, in principle there is no problem to base yourself there, another thing. but why ... if the coastal complexes more than cover everything and everyone from the Crimea
              1. Taoist
                Taoist 2 August 2020 15: 20 New
                0
                Well, the coastal complexes are not omnipotent and not all-seeing ... MRK why did they build the same ... And their radius of action is less than that of Lun. The best defense is still active ...
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 2 August 2020 15: 30 New
                  +1
                  RTOs why did they build the same ....... the coolest RTOs are Bora and Samum skegs directly for the Black Sea. ... and while the screen is heating up, it may already be on the adjacent territory. ... that is, skegs are needed ..... like that about 6 years ago I printed that fig udk did not give a shit, we need icebreakers blood from our nose. Well, now a pleasant result ..... but as for the screens ..... well, as if the transport would not be bad. but as a combat unit ... here the PRICE-EFFICIENCY estimate is important, ... but here the screens lose to the skegs completely
      2. frei67
        frei67 1 August 2020 15: 58 New
        +3
        I've seen this device live
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 1 August 2020 08: 08 New
    -1
    By the way, about the prospects of such "birds". Well, it is clear that there are no prospects without funding. But if you dream up like that. New electronics is understandable. Plus new missiles. Plus engines. Does this class of technology really have no prospects? In the form of a shock ekranoplan.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 August 2020 08: 34 New
      -2
      If his seaworthiness were increased by the roughness of the sea, the Hull is like a trimaran. Variant?
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 1 August 2020 08: 49 New
        +4
        Parameters "Eaglet" - about seaworthiness Wingspan - 31,50 m.
        Length - 58,10 m.
        Height - 16,30 m.
        The wing area is 600,00 m2.
        Weight:
        empty aircraft - 100 kg;
        maximum takeoff - 140 kg.
        Type of engines - 2 x NK-8-4K; 1 x NK-12MK; APU 1 x TA-6A.
        Link:
        starting: 2 x 10 500 kgf;
        traction: 1 x 13 465 liters. from.
        Maximum speed - 400 km / h.
        Cruising speed - 360 km / h.
        Practical range - 1500 km.
        The flight height on the screen is 2-10 m.
        Flight altitude in airplane mode - up to 3000 m (effective up to 2000 m).
        Seaworthiness - 5 points.
        Crew - 6 - 9 people.
        Cargo capacity: up to 200 infantrymen or up to 28 kg of cargo or 000-1 armored personnel carriers.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 1 August 2020 08: 55 New
          +3
          In the North Atlantic, a 10-meter wave is an ordinary thing. You can say almost good weather. There are waves and higher. Probably the ekranoplane effect depends on the sea waves? hi
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 1 August 2020 09: 01 New
            +2
            Kind Andrey. I am not a waterfowl, but the excitement of 5 points seems to be also not small. Screen-planes would be useful in the Far East for operational transfer to the islands. We have pinnipeds, so I would hear their opinion.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 1 August 2020 09: 06 New
              +3
              The aircraft carrier also has restrictions on the operation of aviation. So, in good weather, the ekranoplan jumped out of the base, approached the missile launch distance, and went home. At least it does not need to be afraid of threats from under the water.
              1. tlauicol
                tlauicol 1 August 2020 09: 28 New
                -1
                "jumped out of the base"? yes yes, he will only dock for two hours. Yes, the dock is still to be taken out by tugs .. And yes, no 5 points for such an operation!
        2. tlauicol
          tlauicol 1 August 2020 09: 30 New
          +2
          but there is at least one shot of the Eaglet flying 2 km? Or at least "Eaglet goes to sea with 5 points"?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 1 August 2020 09: 36 New
            0
            Eaglet, Lunya did not see the shots with good excitement. Only with "water as in a swamp" And I didn’t think about basing in the dock.
          2. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 1 August 2020 10: 02 New
            0
            Dobrogo Ivan. A series of screens consisted in the division of supervision between sailors and flyers. Even now, not all materials are open to users. Once information was posted, then tests were carried out (I agree that it can be plus or minus a tram stop) But the Orioles are sold, you can on your fingers estimate in scale-Ivolga EK-12:
            Characteristics: Value:
            Maximum takeoff / takeoff weight (kg) 3900
            Crew / passengers (people) 1-2 / 12
            Payload (kg) Up to 1200
            Flight range with one refueling at an altitude of 0,3 / 0,8 m (km) 1500/1300
            Flight duration with one refueling at an altitude of 0,8 m (hour) 6
            Cruising speed / maximum (km / h) 185/220
            Flight altitude ("jump") (m) Up to 3 (100)
            Engines type / qty x power (hp) Automotive Chevrolet LS-3/2 x 430
            Fuel brand / fuel capacity (kg) Аи-95/270
            Seaworthiness (points) / wave height (m) 3 / 1,25
            Draft when drifting on water (m) 0,5
            Length x Wingspan x Height (m) 15,6 x 13,0 x 3,7
            Fuel per 1 ton of cargo per 1 km (kg / t.km) 0,15
            Fuel per 1 ton of cargo per 1 km (kg / t.km) for aircraft of analogues 0,45 - 0,8
            Fuel mass in internal tanks (kg) 250
            Possible modes of movement flight, planing, swimming, gliding
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 1 August 2020 10: 24 New
              0
              video with Orioles in the network a dime a dozen. but with sea trials of 3 points none. This project has been driven for 15 years from China to America, from America to Yakutia - what's the point? Either they send it right away, or they fly into the pipe.
              In addition, with such an engine (and even smaller), any truck will deliver you a bunch of cargo from entrance to entrance (and faster, otherwise you will have to order one ES and two trucks for delivery).
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 August 2020 08: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      In the form of a shock ekranoplan.

      We will return to the topic of impact ekranoplanes, just the thought of a Soviet design engineer, for modern bureaucrats, comes decades later.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 1 August 2020 16: 53 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        We will return to the topic of impact ekranoplanes.

        Let's take a look. Two years ago - According to Yuri Borisov, the new State Armaments Program, designed for 2018-2027, includes experimental design work to create a promising ekranoplan. The project bears the working designation "Orlan". https://topwar.ru/145185-proekt-orlan-vozvraschenie-boevyh-ekranoplanov.html
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 1 August 2020 09: 33 New
      -1
      By the way, about the prospects of such "birds". Well, it is clear that there are no prospects without funding. But if you dream up like that. New electronics is understandable. Plus new missiles. Plus engines. Does this class of technology really have no prospects? In the form of a shock ekranoplan.

      Discussed here. Castrated plane.

      https://topwar.ru/18422-v-rossii-vozrozhdayut-ideyu-kaspiyskih-monstrov-gigantskih-ekranoplanov-pugavshih-nato.html

      Extreme phrase:

      The website of the Russian Air Force draws a disappointing conclusion: after the collapse of the USSR and the changing situation in the world, the EE was used as a burden for the military - “it’s not clear to ships and aircraft, and it’s not clear what to do with them”. As a result, there is only one thing left - to send them to the scrap.
    4. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 1 August 2020 09: 50 New
      +1
      No.
      A useless and expensive toy.
      Who should he fight in the Caspian Sea? And How?
      He stupidly stands up on the screen and eats several tens of tons of fuel, and the radius of a banal turn is about twenty kilometers on a calm sea, and in a storm he will not fly, he will be killed by the waves.

      6 pieces of anti-ship missiles, good. And how can he fight off aviation? Even the propeller-driven scout will catch up with him and slam, let alone the jet.

      Dead end.
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 1 August 2020 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Really, this class of technology has no prospects?

      There is. Freight and passenger transportation, Emergencies Ministry, river patrol ...
    6. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 1 August 2020 10: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      By the way, about the prospects of such "birds". Well, it is clear that there are no prospects without funding. But if you dream up like that. New electronics is understandable. Plus new missiles. Plus engines. Does this class of technology really have no prospects? In the form of a shock ekranoplan.

      He has no prospects. What kind of combat resistance? Struggle for strength (sea all the same) with weight (should fly). But such a huge machine is flying into the attack, and across the sea on its way pillars of ruptures rise.
      And he crashes into this water at a speed of 500 km / h. Plus to this, the extremely low resource of the turbojet engine in the constant salt fog of shaving flight over the sea. Something like this.
    7. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 1 August 2020 12: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Really, this class of technology has no prospects?

      No.
      A very complex and expensive machine to operate with dubious combat effectiveness.
  4. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 1 August 2020 08: 17 New
    +6
    The world's only ekranoplan will no longer rust in its eternal parking lot in Kaspiysk.

    He's not the only one.
    If only to write, "pysaki". = _ =
  5. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 1 August 2020 08: 23 New
    +5
    We had a great era. Handsome man
  6. U-58
    U-58 1 August 2020 08: 25 New
    -2
    A rusty monument of a great era ...
    Eh, if I were the "director" ...
    1 combat unit in the Caspian and the Black Sea, 2 each in the Baltic, the North and 3 in the Pacific Ocean, 1 unit in the "rescue" variant for each fleet and a plus for the "Search and Rescue" spacecraft for the Vostochny cosmodrome based in North Korea ..
    1. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 1 August 2020 10: 05 New
      +3
      It is not suitable for the ocean.
      And - whom and how will he save?
      1. U-58
        U-58 1 August 2020 10: 48 New
        -2
        Submarine Komsomolets ....
        1. AllBiBek
          AllBiBek 1 August 2020 10: 55 New
          +2
          In a storm, he will not stand up on the screen, nor will he hold out against the waves. Will deploy and break.

          He also flies like those crocodiles from the anecdote, close and low.

          Well, he flew to a nuclear submarine in distress in the open ocean. What's next?
          1. U-58
            U-58 1 August 2020 12: 00 New
            -5
            And then - according to the situation.
            We lift the crew on board. We launch the device on coaming, raise people.
            And why only the Premier League?
            And what about the passenger steamer Nakhimov or some kind of Tratatanik thread?
            1. U-58
              U-58 1 August 2020 12: 13 New
              0

              Or meet a far-field lifeguard and drive people to the shore
            2. AllBiBek
              AllBiBek 1 August 2020 13: 58 New
              +4
              Raising - how? It won't fit right next to the board. Carry by boat? Well, we raised as much as we could. A couple hundred maximum. And the rest - what? Wait until it takes one shipment, refuel, and comes again? While he will wander back and forth, a normal rescue vessel will have time to approach.

              An ekranoplan is a very specific transport, for a very narrow range of tasks, and in this size it is also useless.

              All they could think of was an anti-ship missile carrier, but the trouble is that it is disposable. There was no defensive armament against the air strike, the speed was not enough to get away. At least put Zircons on it - is it meaningful? They can be placed anywhere, the distance is not critical there.

              At the exit, there is a terribly expensive, difficult to maintain, and extremely gluttonous toy. Which carries 8 engines on the nose just to enter the running mode, and then they are ballast. Maneuverability - consider that not, any sea except the Caspian is contraindicated, in the ocean it will be killed by waves very quickly. In a storm, it's useless.

              And what, besides the museum, is it good for in such situations?
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 1 August 2020 08: 32 New
    +5
    Another symbol of the achievements of Soviet scientists and the ship / aircraft builders !!!
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 August 2020 08: 44 New
    +3
    1988 The plans for the development of the Murmansk Trawl Fleet raised the issue of using ekranoplanes to change crews in the Faroese zone. The speed and carrying capacity were right for us. Balls! request
  9. mark2
    mark2 1 August 2020 08: 46 New
    0
    Eh, if I were the "director" ...



    Yeah .... It's a pity that you are not the "Director" of All Russia.
    1. U-58
      U-58 1 August 2020 09: 19 New
      +1
      Oh yes. Forgive me, I forgot that in a country with a total of 146 million population, only one deserves to be a director ...))))
  10. Klingon
    Klingon 1 August 2020 08: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: Leapold
    Buran became a restaurant .. Now Lun too .. Such a country was destroyed.

    Buran became a restaurant? is this a joke or what? (sorry, not in the know)
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 August 2020 08: 59 New
      +2
      One Buran is definitely in Sochi in Sirius. Definitely not a restaurant. I see it every three days. Yesterday I was there.
  11. Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 August 2020 09: 05 New
    0
    Everything, the Kremlin ekranoplanes as a military component have written off for scrap? ??
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 1 August 2020 19: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Everything, the Kremlin ekranoplanes as a military component have written off for scrap? ??

      The Kremlin is in a hurry to write off everything Soviet for scrap in order to erase from people's memory.
  12. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 1 August 2020 09: 12 New
    +3
    It's good that so. Indeed a monument.
    The experiment failed, but left a good memory.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 1 August 2020 09: 33 New
      +3
      Well, what about failed, it's debatable .. China already produces small ones and wants to do intercontinental ones .. Where does the technology come from?
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 1 August 2020 10: 08 New
        +2
        Small walking and the States were mass-produced back in the 60-70s.

        After playing enough, and abandoned.
      2. Aleks2000
        Aleks2000 2 August 2020 23: 23 New
        0
        Our Ministry of Defense officially stopped research around 2010 (like, they wrote here in articles)
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 1 August 2020 10: 23 New
    0
    I was so delighted with the news, and then after listening to it I realized that this is just an exhibit for the park.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 August 2020 12: 54 New
      +1
      Ekranoplanes are just experimental machines, no more than seaplanes, ekranoplanes are a more realistic direction in operation and application.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 1 August 2020 21: 36 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Ekranoplanes are just experimental machines, no more than seaplanes, ekranoplanes are a more realistic direction in operation and application.

        Once the helicopters were experimental, but now there is such an opportunity to become the ancestor of a whole type of transport, military and civilian. Otherwise, we will add billions of dollars into a product (Buran) and make a cafe in it!
  14. Naughty
    Naughty 1 August 2020 13: 03 New
    +2
    and will many people see him in Derbent? It was necessary to go to Nizhny Novgorod. To the homeland of the designer. But it is not destiny, apparently.
  15. Old26
    Old26 1 August 2020 13: 08 New
    +5
    Quote: Observer2014
    Does this class of technology really have no prospects? In the form of a shock ekranoplan.

    Not. Its tasks are solved either by aviation (if we are talking about speed) or by conventional ships if we are talking about seaworthiness. Any of these options solves problems more efficiently than an ekranoplan

    Quote: Tlauicol
    but there is at least one shot of the Eaglet flying 2 km? Or at least "Eaglet goes to sea with 5 points"?

    Not. In fact, such a height is possible for an ekranoplan, but not for an ekranoplan. And if he could make such a vertical jump, then a very short-term kmk ... At least not a single photograph confirms this ...

    Quote: Kuroneko
    The world's only ekranoplan will no longer rust in its eternal parking lot in Kaspiysk.

    He's not the only one.
    If only to write, "pysaki". = _ =

    From the fighting - the only one. One EMNIP eaglet is at the Khimki reservoir.

    Quote: U-58
    Submarine Komsomolets ....

    With the excitement that was at the death of "Komsomolets" it was meaningless. I would hardly have sat down, but if I had, I would hardly have taken off. A lifeguard is needed most often in bad weather, strong excitement. And in such cases, nothing has yet been invented better than a displacement spassudna ...

    Quote: tralflot1832
    One Buran is definitely in Sochi in Sirius. Definitely not a restaurant. I see it every three days. Yesterday I was there.

    Actually, this is not Buran, but one of its layouts. The fate of only one of the flight copies of "Buran" is unknown - product 2.01 (the third flight or the first flight of the second series). At one time I was on the embankment in Moscow, I don’t know what the quality is. No. 3 and 4 - disassembled, No. 1 (flying) - died at Baikonur when the roof of the workshop collapsed, No. 2 - in museums in Baikonur.
    All the rest, which were used for museums and so on - only mock samples of "Buran" ...

    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Well, what about failed, it's debatable .. China already produces small ones and wants to do intercontinental ones .. Where does the technology come from?

    Small ones can still be beneficial and find applications. Combat sized as "Lun" is a dead end. As well as transport of the same dimensions.
    And the experiment "Eaglet-Harrier", alas, failed.

    Quote: APASUS
    I was so delighted with the news, and then after listening to it I realized that this is just an exhibit for the park.

    Would you prefer it to be an expensive but useless "toy" in the Navy ?? So it seems that sailors and aviators spoke about him unequivocally ...
  16. Klingon
    Klingon 1 August 2020 14: 01 New
    +1
    Some yoLokh put a minus for the fact that I asked the usual question "is it not a joke that one of the Burans was made a restaurant" what kind of Murzilki is there on the site? you at least give a reason ...
    although I do not care about the minusers, the impulse of the product is just interesting
  17. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 1 August 2020 14: 07 New
    -1
    It's a pity, we could have restored it. And I would drive tourists across the Caspian Sea at a speed of 500 km / h.
  18. Old26
    Old26 1 August 2020 14: 21 New
    +4
    Quote: Vzdrincher
    and will many people see him in Derbent? It was necessary to go to Nizhny Novgorod. To the homeland of the designer. But it is not destiny, apparently.

    In Nizhny, EMNIP, the unfinished "Rescuer" still remains at the plant.

    Quote: Klingon
    you at least give a reason ...
    although I do not care about the minusers, the impulse of the product is just interesting

    Do not pay attention. There will always be those who will put a minus for any question, since they themselves consider themselves "experts"
    On a parallel topic (about the new Buyans-m, answering the question about the range of the Caliber, I wrote that in open sources, the Caliber with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead was positioned as a product with a flight range of 1500, and with a nuclear one - 2500 km. And he asked the question, where will these calibers get if they shoot from the Volga or Don. And whether they will hit at all - for which I got a minus, because the minusors do not care what kind of navigation and guidance system there is. I encroached on "holy" - on "CALIBR".
  19. Old26
    Old26 1 August 2020 14: 23 New
    +4
    Quote: panzerfaust
    It's a pity, we could have restored it. And I would drive tourists across the Caspian Sea at a speed of 500 km / h.

    There is such a building that many tourists cannot be shoved there. This is not the corps of the transport "Eaglet", capable of taking on board the marines. Search the net. There are pictures of "Lunya", incl. and its "insides"
  20. VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 1 August 2020 15: 15 New
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    Ashore was not shown :(
  21. Doliva63
    Doliva63 1 August 2020 18: 56 New
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    "Imperial bomb carrier", or what was the Strugatskys'? In general, the power! laughing drinks
  22. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 1 August 2020 19: 02 New
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    Sad news of the gopoda, comrades.
    As far as I know, a workshop was built at my plant for serial production. We were preparing cadres to work on them.
    I personally studied for three years ... It was not useful.
    We rolled the Zubr DKVP onto a slip - they would also pull it by a tug to a certain monument.
    Sadly, these are all gentlemen ...
    Well, at least they won't cut it. And thank you for that.
    Watching how your labors are being destroyed is painful to see the shipbuilding. In fact. Each vessel is like a child repeat .
    1. Aag
      Aag 2 August 2020 07: 57 New
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      Quote: Benzorez
      Sad news of the gopoda, comrades.
      As far as I know, a workshop was built at my plant for serial production. We were preparing cadres to work on them.
      I personally studied for three years ... It was not useful.
      We rolled the Zubr DKVP onto a slip - they would also pull it by a tug to a certain monument.
      Sadly, these are all gentlemen ...
      Well, at least they won't cut it. And thank you for that.
      Watching how your labors are being destroyed is painful to see the shipbuilding. In fact. Each vessel is like a child repeat .

      I wonder who and why wrote you a minus. Probably the guardians of economic efficiency (I invested a ruble today, tomorrow I had two, otherwise life does not make sense!), And, for what you did "galoshes" ... hi drinks
      Here they have already tried to remind the history of helicopter construction as an example. You can remember cell phones, and much more ...
  23. I AM BELARUSIAN
    I AM BELARUSIAN 2 August 2020 09: 02 New
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    And I would have restored it to the service!
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  24. BETEP
    BETEP 2 August 2020 10: 52 New
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    At the same time, somewhere in the world, where no plans for military superiority are made ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFEFekPzDM&app=desktop&persist_app=1
  25. Old26
    Old26 2 August 2020 12: 30 New
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    Quote: I am BELARUS
    And I would have restored it to the service!

    What for? What will it give. Dead-end branch of development. It makes no sense to have such a "monster" because he will lose to everyone. Both the fleet and aviation. Even as a rescuer, it is problematic to use it in the North or the Pacific. It turns out to be a paradox. Even "river-sea" class ships of the "Buyan-M" type in terms of efficiency may turn out to be more efficient than this "monster"

    Quote: AAG
    I wonder who, and why wrote you a minus.

    Alexander! This is a great secret. They can get confused for a simple question that has no technical or political implications. Well, a person doesn't know something (it's impossible to know everything). He asks a question and, in addition to an answer, also receives a minus from the "anonymous". Moreover, they have already repeatedly appealed to the administration so that the disadvantages are not "nameless", only when arguing, but so far things are still there. There is always a certain contingent, which sometimes minuses contrary to logic (they do not have it)
  26. wow
    wow 2 August 2020 14: 13 New
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    And when this "tagged Misha" has already left to spit on his grave ...?
  27. Old26
    Old26 2 August 2020 16: 05 New
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    Quote: yo-mine
    And when this "tagged Misha" has already left to spit on his grave ...?

    The link between the dead end in the development of ekranoplanes, its current use in the Patriot Park and "Misha Marked" is not entirely clear?
  28. Old26
    Old26 2 August 2020 19: 40 New
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    Quote: Taoist
    Yes, Lun did not need a dock ... The fact that it was used for the experimental machine for convenience does not mean that he needed it. Equipping a slip is not a problem at all.

    It is really not a problem to equip a concrete slip. You are right here. But the slip was used exclusively for the "Eaglet", which had a wheeled chassis. And which on this slip could be lifted to land. On its chassis. And "Lunya" has a wheeled chassis DID NOT HAVE... There were only skis. And to drag this unit along a concrete slip - to wash the ski in a couple of "dragging". Therefore, "Lun" was driven into the dock. Without him, he could not be on land.
  29. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 4 August 2020 02: 12 New
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    Quote: Old26
    Actually, this is not Buran, but one of its layouts. The fate of only one of the flight copies of "Buran" is unknown - product 2.01 (the third flight or the first flight of the second series). At one time I was on the embankment in Moscow, I don’t know what the quality is.

    There was a scientific and educational attraction, now it is at VDNKh and there is an interactive museum complex in it, you can even control the landing at Baikonur.