The Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine demanded the arrest and extradition of 28 detained Russians

Ukraine and Belarus discussed the detention of Russians near Minsk, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba expressed gratitude to his colleague from Belarus Vladimir Makei for the lists of detainees presented. This was reported on the website of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry.

The Ukrainian Foreign Minister assured his Belarusian counterpart that the country's law enforcement agencies are carefully working out the list.

The two countries are not just partners, but also neighbors and friends. Kiev supports Belarus in protecting its sovereignty and economic security

- he said.

Earlier, the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine demanded from Belarus the arrest of 28 of the 33 detained Russians on "suspicion of participation in a terrorist organization." In Kiev, they said that they are preparing documents for the extradition of the detainees, but noted that this issue will be decided by the Belarusian competent authorities.

28 persons, of whom nine are citizens of Ukraine, have been declared suspicious of their participation in a terrorist organization (Art. 258-3 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). Thus, the Ukrainian side expressed its intention to demand the extradition of these persons to Ukraine in order to bring them to justice for crimes related to illegal participation in the armed conflict in Donbass.

- said in the message of the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Minsk has already come up with a version of why the detainees had tickets for a flight to Istanbul. According to the investigation, it was a "cover operation", in fact, no one was going to fly anywhere.

It is obvious that in the organized preparation of the crime, the attackers prepared an alibi for themselves. A similar situation took place with the detention of 33 citizens of the Russian Federation, who had tickets to fly to Istanbul on 25 July. However, as it turned out, they did not intend to fly there.

- stated in the Investigative Committee of Belarus.

A spokesman for the UK said that the detainees were "managed according to military standards," and a group was created in the WhatsApp messenger "to manage personnel."

Comments

[newcomer]

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

[carstorm 11]

he has already signed it. he was clearly told yesterday from the Kremlin that they were waiting for the release of Russian citizens.

[mitroha]

All the same, I hope Lukashenka is smart enough not to extradite the guys, because it will be just a cynical murder. Cross out the lives of 33 men.
And yes, the Russians should definitely not go to Belarus in the near future from the Foreign Ministry.
What provocations can still be no one can predict

[Hunter 2]

I also recommend to Russian citizens not to use watsap - in the opinion of the Belarusian Investigative Committee, he controls all of us, and on a command from the “center” - from pensioners, pioneers, middle-aged men ... Will make Saboteurs and other military experts!

[carstorm 11]

and everyone starts to thump urgently !!!

[gsev]

Quote: Mitroha

All the same, I hope Lukashenka is smart enough not to extradite the guys

It looks like it is necessary to stop the supply of oil and gas to Belarus, and from it to Russia and through Russia of agricultural products. The explanation that terrorists are preparing to use these goods to destabilize the situation in Belarus and Russia is more plausible than Lukashenka's accusations against the arrested Russians. In the end, even Saakashvili was not allowed to enter the United States by the United States. Lukashenka’s fate will be even sadder after his forced resignation. If he manages to betray at least one Russian citizen to the Ukrainians, there will be no number among the Russian Furgalovites to play the role of Yanukovych.

[Greg Miller]

Quote: carstorm 11

he has already signed it. he was clearly told yesterday from the Kremlin that they were waiting for the release of Russian citizens.

They are waiting, just waiting ... But you need to demand immediate release! And in order to think faster in Minsk, it is necessary to immediately ban the import of any agricultural products from Belarus until the release of the captured Russians. Otherwise, the Russian leadership will wait for 28 people out of 33 to end up in SBU prisons ...

[carstorm 11]

there is such a concept, incommensurable losses. dad, although he finally went with his head, he will not go for it. completely collapse the economy of Belarus can be literally in one day. and then he will lose all elections for sure. now in my opinion there is some kind of bargaining with us.

[Greg Miller]

Old Man is an elderly man, as he will be presented, so it will be ... But his entourage, wants to take him to the Maidan and overthrow, just not in favor of some Babarik and others, but in their own favor, in order to carry out privatization in Belarus themselves ... So Makei and the company are not sleeping ...

[carstorm 11]

quite possibly that too. not enough information. very little for conclusions ..

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

and then he will lose all elections for sure

why are you sure? He can cancel them and appoint himself.

Quote: carstorm 11

now in my opinion there is some kind of bargaining with us.

he has been going for a long time, only Lukashenka does not want to go to bed with Putin and that's it
And what a trick he will do only he knows.

[carstorm 11]

who asked him to go to bed? I don’t remember that.

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

I don’t remember that.

i.e. to surrender the post of President of Belarus and stand in the moisture of nothing decisive parliament - is this an upward advance for Lukashenka's personality? It's like sending Putin to the State Duma now

[carstorm 11]

maybe))) what is in his head, I don't know either)

[New Year day]

Quote: carstorm 11

maybe))) what is in his head, I don't know either)

psychology

[carstorm 11]

well, in his case, how sad, in my opinion, is already psychiatry ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: carstorm 11

he has already signed it. he was clearly told yesterday from the Kremlin that they were waiting for the release of Russian citizens.

But he has not yet cut off the "umbilical cord" and has not given them to the "sumeria", although he has sent the lists and data. Let's wait, how all this crap will end, then we will draw final conclusions. Most likely, "dad" after the elections will sharply turn on the "back". Again Putin will be friend-comrade-brother, there will be an endless idiot about the "union state" ... Who will feed him with loans? Well, if only lies entirely to the west.

[Sergei 777]

I think it has already been signed.

[Kisa]

yes, but still Peskov could think of something more convincing, how can 30 people make a flight? and you can not overregister ?? just sober ???))))) so-so explanation. something that someone does not finish ...

[newcomer]

Have you ever gone as a "gang" somewhere? Some part of the group could go on a spree, or come later. As an option.

[Kisa]

yes, as options, I and a couple of dozen can throw any reasons)))))) I fly on a steamer every couple of months all my life from here and was surprised - right now, all the airports are empty for inspection, there is no one, there are no planes empty ..... lack of information gives rise to all sorts of speculation . if everything is in white then it is easy to track.

[carstorm 11]

but there is a difference how they missed the flight? there are even tickets to Turkey. did not violate anything. just waited. since when did it become illegal?

[Kisa]

Dima, yes, what illegal it is - yes, at least they met the Martians. 30 tickets for 500 bucks, I understand large-scale people, but why not transfer to another flight? ...

[newcomer]

There is a version that it was a "game" of our two special services, from which Lukashenka decided to "jump". Ours then insured themselves: tickets, that's why the press of Belarusians looks ridiculous.

[carstorm 11]

and who said that they did not outplay? they said it seemed like they were waiting for another.

[Kisa]

Yes, I really blame anyone)))) I argue as logically simple mortals as we do in such cases - it did not work for this flight, re-register for another online, all this is easily tracked - why the tracker in the parallel branch says that no one is going anywhere from the beginning I was not going to fly ... well, you want to believe in your plot and health))

[New Year day]

Quote: kitty

I argue as logically simple mortals as we do in such cases

why fly from Moscow somewhere through Minsk, if the same flights exist from Moscow. Turkey, Lebanon - everything flies

[carstorm 11]

in general, it was only from August 1, which means that international flights were opened today.
Russia will open international flights with Turkey, Great Britain and Tanzania on August 1, but those Russians who are in a hurry to get abroad in early August will have to overpay significantly. Recall that first it will be possible to fly to Istanbul, Ankara, London and Zanzibar (Tanzania), and flights will be available only from Moscow, St. Petersburg and Rostov-on-Don. From August 10, it will also be possible to go directly to the most popular Turkish resorts: Antalya, Bodrum and Dalaman.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: carstorm 11

there are even tickets to Turkey. did not violate anything. just waited. since when did it become illegal?

I also think that the guys did not violate anything, but only they could not fly to Turkey. Here the question immediately arises "why". Many of us were late for our flight, especially abroad. Some people say it happened, but 30 people were late, this is what brings everyone to thought. Although there is still no clarity.

[DV-B]

Read the Belarusian press about this, they themselves do not understand what is happening with Lukashenka.

[gsev]

Quote: DV-B

They themselves do not understand what is happening with Lukashenka.

Lukashenka has the same Avakov in the secret services as Yanukovych had before 2014. And the Belarusian Avakov was tasked with preventing the flight of the old man to Russia from the prospect of repeating the fate of Gaddafi or Hussein.

[Egoza]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

Moreover, let him not later hope that the elections will be in his favor.

[newcomer]

I think this time Lukashenka played too much and outplayed himself. The more Russia went to meet him, the more he found. The same story as with Ukrland.

[mdsr]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

Moreover, let him not later hope that the elections will be in his favor.

Russia has long been determined about Lukashenka. It was decided to replace him in the current presidential elections. There are many reasons for this, and cockroach miscarriages are not the main ones among them. He understood this perfectly, therefore, we observe all these passions around the elections.

[newcomer]

So naturally, the last episode with the PMC is just a critical drop that broke the dam of patience. Although the very content of this "drop" the arrest of citizens of the Union State out of arrogance is immeasurable. Lukashenka just drove himself into a dead end with the desire to rise above the GDP.

[Observer2014]

Quote: newbie

So naturally, the last episode with the PMC is just a critical drop that broke the dam of patience. Although the very content of this "drop" the arrest of citizens of the Union State out of arrogance is immeasurable. Lukashenka just drove himself into a dead end with the desire to rise above the GDP.

Well, at the expense of PMCs, you do not get excited. “PMCs” in brackets need to be written about this. These are only Belarusian wishlist so that they are PMCs.
As for the rest, yes, it was himself who created the problem. As Zakhar Prilepin said the other day, it is.
What kind of strategists Lukashenka has in such "garbage" they have thrust him into. And I repeat myself. Better to send the guys to Russia as soon as possible.

[newcomer]

Okay, let there be a private security company "MAR". Otherwise, I agree.

[nickname7]

... Zakhar Prilepin said so the other day.

In vain Zakhar got out with the tongue.

[Observer2014]

Quote: nickname7

... Zakhar Prilepin said so the other day.

In vain Zakhar got out with the tongue.

So what's in vain? It immediately became clear to everyone that the guys had Russian citizenship. And these are former militants. This means that any negotiations with Ukraine will be like an aspen stake. And there can be no "Lukashenko's need to understand". The guys should be returned to Russia. Tochka.

[DV-B]

And for whom is Moscow exchanging Lukashenko? Rather, Lukashenko decided to exchange Russia. I wonder for what or for whom ???

[gurzuf]

Your version is interesting, just specify which of the candidates of the Russian Federation has made a bet in the upcoming elections?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: gurzuf

Which of the candidates has the Russian Federation made a bet on in the upcoming elections?

On Luka. Otherwise, they would normally react to the seizure and ruin of your bank. And then there is silence on all fronts

[New Year day]

Quote: gurzuf

Which of the candidates has the Russian Federation made a bet on in the upcoming elections?

Lukashenka - no
Tikhanovskaya - no.
There are no more others

[gurzuf]

Here I am about it. And all the same, this time you will have to bet on the ugly dad.

[Gardamir]

Moreover, let him not hope later,

The main thing is not to confuse, for the oligarchs or for Russia. And then somehow the Union of the Oligarchs of Russia, when they need to quickly expose themselves as patriots, but keep the money in America. The Chinese don't need the power of Siberia for nothing, so let the price of gas for the people of Russia go up. They say that in Syria at the request and to help Assad, but negotiations are being conducted only with Erdogan. They said about Libya that there were only "ichtamnets", and now someone is being detained in Belarus.
If the authorities in Russia lie like they breathe, then why all of a sudden everyone believed. At least below you correctly said "you can look like this" We do not abandon our own "". but on the other hand it is naive. For the oligarchs, theirs are the same as them.

[Observer2014]

Gardamir

If the authorities in Russia lie like they breathe, then why all of a sudden everyone believed. At least below you correctly said "you can look like this" We do not abandon our own "". but on the other hand it is naive. For the oligarchs, theirs are the same as them.

.Only there is one but. They detained their guys and drove them to procrastinate about "giving to Ukraine." The politician should have foreseen this. I doubt it.
What is a bunch of ridiculous excuses? And stories about Russian capitalism and all that. In comparison, it is simple and understandable that ours were detained there. And judging by the flurry in the media, they want to give them back to Ukraine.

[Gardamir]

there is one but

I agree, but let's try not to rush to conclusions, because

What's a bunch of ridiculous excuses worth?

here everything is voiced by the Kremlin, but what about the reality? Do you believe the Kremlin? Let's remember their merits, for the murder of our pilot Erdogan the Kremlin is the best partner, for slaves a tale about tomatoes, about raising the retirement age and pursuing the endless growth of gasoline ...
And by the way, nobody thinks it strange that the authorities in the country have merit. no, they churn out enemies. all around the enemies, Ukrainians, Lukashenko, by the way why the silence Poles destroyed the monument to Rokossovsky on July 30, but silence.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

The main thing is not to confuse, for the oligarchs or for Russia. And then somehow the Union of the Oligarchs of Russia, when they need to quickly expose themselves as patriots, but keep the money in America. The Chinese don't need the power of Siberia for nothing, so let the price of gas for the people of Russia go up. They say that in Syria at the request and to help Assad, but negotiations are being conducted only with Erdogan. They said about Libya that there were only "ichtamnets", and now someone is being detained in Belarus.
If the authorities in Russia lie like they breathe, then why all of a sudden everyone believed. At least below you correctly said "you can look like this" We do not abandon our own "". but on the other hand it is naive. For the oligarchs, theirs are the same as them.

In, twisted, I'm delighted!
You would make an exemplary bureaucrat-clerk, you can bury anyone in demagoguery!
Yes! And besides, I think Carthage must be destroyed.
How many comments do you have without mentioning the corruption of the authorities, oligarchs, oil and gas, money and children abroad? I think ten percent maximum.

[Gardamir]

without mentioning the corruption of the authorities, oligarchs, oil and gas, money and children abroad?

isn't that so?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

isn't that so?

So far nothing has been documented, this is a matter of faith, i.e. a kind of religion. And religion does not need facts, it operates with dogmas. Here is the dogma for you, all of the above. You don't need any proof or confirmation, you just believe. Accordingly, anyone who doubts this faith and its dogmas is a heretic and an enemy for you.

[New Year day]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Carthage must be destroyed.

those. do you interfere in the affairs of a foreign state? What kind of response do you expect?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Silvestr

those. do you interfere in the affairs of a foreign state? What kind of response do you expect?

Read about Cato the Elder.

[Semyon Vasilievich]

So with this "game" he hopes to turn those who are against him to himself. Like, look, I am independent from the Kremlin and I do what I want!

[Observer2014]

Quote: Semyon Vasilievich

So with this "game" he hopes to turn those who are against him to himself. Like, look, I am independent from the Kremlin and I do what I want!

In general, I don't care what he wanted. And what or who prompted him or encouraged him. I say. There is a simple fact as five kopecks. The authorities of Belarus have detained our people and want to give them back to Ukraine. Everything. You can at least continue to write what he wanted there. And about the evil Russian capital. Explain and fantasize in the media. Clever speeches to push in justifying Lukashenko. Philosophizing about the intricacies of his character and his tension before the elections. You can think of anything. Even that this is a specially planned action of Minsk and Moscow to strengthen the faith of right. Or a special operation of the Ukrainian special services, hired through third parties by private security companies from the republics ...
But the fact is the fact. It is better for Lukashenka to give the guys to Russia as soon as possible.

[alexmach]

I will add. Even if there really were terrorists-saboteurs sent by the "bloody gebnya" it could have been done quite differently. They could be taken quietly without unnecessary dust and then slowly sort it out. And this noise in the press, the threat of transferring people to Ukraine, this is just an indicative slap in the face, and nothing more.

[Observer2014]

Quote: alexmach

I will add. Even if there really were terrorists-saboteurs sent by the "bloody gebnya" it could have been done quite differently. They could be taken quietly without unnecessary dust and then slowly sort it out. And this noise in the press, the threat of transferring people to Ukraine, this is just an indicative slap in the face, and nothing more.

Well, who will now call him smart? How now all this is within the framework of even "He kept the enterprises there" He is a fine fellow there and all that. How can he be perceived now? So we see what we see. The best option for Lukashenka I say again. All the guys very quickly to the border with the Russian Federation. Accompanied by "flashing lights."

[alexmach]

How now all this is within the framework of even "He kept the enterprises there" He is a fine fellow there and all that. How can you perceive him now?

Hmm ... and I also wrote something similar about his past achievements ...
Well, let's see how it all ends.

[vVvAD]

It will no longer matter - the conversation with him will be at the level of Poroshenko.
If he wants - let him slurp a full spoon.

[Evil543]

And where will he run? The road to Smolensk is closed to him.

[newcomer]

To Kiev probably.

[Evil543]

Will not be in time, so "hang out at the bulb"

[askort154]

Evil543 ....And where will he run? The road to Smolensk is closed to him.

He has 6 acres, where he exponentially grew a bulb. There he prepared a "cache" for two - himself and Kolya.

[svp67]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

He seems to have already signed it for himself, while he and his special services are chasing two hundred imaginary "Russian terrorists", his opponents are gathering tens of thousands of people to their meetings at his side.

[newcomer]

I say: deja vu.

[Olgovich]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them away

How can you even give those who allegedly committed a "crime" in Belarus ... to a third party?

[newcomer]

Type of "extradition" with further "investigation" and punishment "at home".

[antivirus]

the verdict was read out - when Luka asked to reduce payments for the nuclear power plant (in Sberbank B?) and he was refused. to ally at the request of the debtor was refused even then .... (+ revision of gas prices was not carried out)

It turned out to be more difficult to pay for independence than to simply borrow money on the terms of the IMF.
"suvyarinite" - art accessible to the elite

[newcomer]

Apparently we learned the lessons from Ukrland.

[alexmach]

Apparently we learned the lessons from Ukrland.

Oh, here I would not rush to conclusions ...
The fact that Lukashenka is clearly off the rails (I don’t know, maybe he’s really sick, or maybe just extravagantly demonstrates the results of some undercover conflicts) is obvious. And it is obvious that he will lead Belarus somewhere along the path of Ukraine. But what is not clear is whether the Kremlin will be able to achieve a more advantageous situation for itself in Belarus.

[newcomer]

This is the lesson that would not let Belarus kneel before the West. And how, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Chekists have enough tools. I hope, I really hope that the Union State will remain so.

[vVvAD]

Tried to blackmail with BAZs - they refused, having created Platform O in advance, by the Naval communications center in Vileika and the Volga early warning radar station in Baranovichi - they refused, creating new ones, understanding what kind of "ally" we are talking about.
But the actual hostage-taking is not answered with economic and military-technical measures - this is the work of the MTR and the GRU. Doesn't he understand that from his level - a petty sharper, like Poroshenko - it is better not to butt with a world power?

[antivirus]

a petty sharper like Poroshenko - is it better not to butt with a world power?

-Luka has not yet traveled Russia to Vanino, in a carriage, slowly, with a meal according to the schedule. does not know the scale?

[Eragon]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

Well, brothers, Russians, do you still like the AHL? Yesterday or the day before yesterday, almost the same thing was written on all the branches of the forum - there is no better candidate for the presidency of Belarus than him. So this is what you saw and heard, and we live in it. Daily.

[newcomer]

Janek is not an angel either, he was. As you know, we choose the lesser of two evils.

[alexmach]

As you know: choose the lesser of two evils

So-so choice to be honest.

[Eragon]

Quote: newbie

Janek is not an angel either, he was. As you know, we choose the lesser of two evils.

But the Russians did not have enough to live well and did not immediately declare terrorists. AHL, remaining in power, will immediately declare Russia an "evil empire". No one is alarmed that both the US and Europe are silent, not a word about human rights violations, about a dictator? So, they threw a couple of quiet replicas on duty and said nothing. In my opinion, Belarus has already sold AHL. And not Russia.

[newcomer]

So colleagues: "Janek was not an angel either." It does not mean that they are twins with Lukashenka in habits. Janek also rushed here and there. And the choice was certainly not so hot: one turned out to be a coward, the second tyrant, but there was no alternative.

[Eragon]

Quote: newbie

So colleagues: "Janek was not an angel either." It does not mean that they are twins with Lukashenka in habits. Janek also rushed here and there. And the choice was certainly not so hot: one turned out to be a coward, the second tyrant, but there was no alternative.

No, not twins. Yanukovych was a protégé (no matter whose: Kuchma, oligarchs, or someone else), that is, a hired worker, a dependent figure. Lukashenka works only for himself (not for the country), that is, he is an independent figure and, therefore, is responsible for everything. It was useless to negotiate with Yanukovych. Lukashenka could be bought (in the union state he demanded a second printing press in Minsk), but the deal did not take place, he asked too much. Now, I think, he has already sold Belarus (not Russia), we need to work it out, but suddenly the people began to rise. Not for one of the candidates, but against Lukashenko. If Tikhanovskaya wins, then you can talk and negotiate with Babariko or Tsepkalo. With Lukashenka it is already impossible.

[newcomer]

It is the same: that with the oligarch that Ukrlenda, that with Lukashenka it is necessary to negotiate directly, that is, preferences. Now, the people of Belarus are unlikely to be able to keep the level of the republic against Lukashenka, as an example to you Ukraine. The Kremlin, of course, has a kondidat, but it is hardly one of the three.

[gsev]

Quote: Eragon

No, not twins. Yanukovych was a protege

On the territory of the former USSR, any president is a completely independent figure. In the first 2 years of his rule, Putin did not look more independent than Yanukovych. Yes, and Medvedev until August 2008 had every chance to replace Vladimir Vladimirovich. Lukashenka has shown outstanding intelligence while maintaining the high sovereignty of Belarus. But it is difficult for a country like Belarus to be self-sufficient when China, the United States, Europe, India and Brazil are fighting for a place in the sun. Chinese manufacturers have worn out the assembly shop of the CIS-Belarus. And even the Belarusian managers do not want to moderate their ambitions, trying to squeeze the latter out of the Russians. Now it looks like Belarus will follow the path of de-industrialization of Ukraine. Soon Belarusians will not eat 38 kg of lard, 30% more Russians and 90% more Ukrainians.

[Sklendarka]

And there’s nothing to add ...

[vVvAD]

Dmitry, it is.
It is not clear for what reason, but until the last moment, Old Man was considered as a negotiable partner. Although his eternal swing, posturing, ostentatious emotionality, uselessness as an ally, inability to ensure the prosperity of his own economy, and at the same time reluctance to deepen integration between our countries (and, as far as I remember, support among the citizens of your country does not drop 60%) due to their own power ambition is visible to the naked eye, as is the unwillingness to even prepare a successor, let alone transfer power through democratic procedures.
And in our country not everything is going smoothly, but we can only sympathize with you.
If only he did not bring the country to the state of galloping neighbors.

[Terenin]

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba expressed gratitude to his colleague from Belarus Vladimir Makei for the lists of detainees presented.

I think our panels will be fine.
In my opinion, the best incident, about the "one-sided game", and it was difficult to come up with ...
Well, does this fact, showing the real attitude of the leadership of Belarus towards Russia, our "oaks" from politics at least show something or not?
It remains only Lukashenka to give the command - to detain half of the leadership of Russia (and better all!) and send for potatoes. There will be more benefit from them.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

Like Yatsenyuk or Gunpowder?

[gsev]

Quote: Vol4ara

Like Yatsenyuk or Gunpowder?

If the Russians were handed over to the Ukrainians, I would not have regretted a pair of gauges for my father.

[Terenin]

Quote: newbie

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.

Don't know Lukashenka !? Yes, it will. Where will he go.
Moreover, he will present everything as his personal victory over the vicious (invisible) enemies of Russian-Belarusian relations ...

[vVvAD]

Meanwhile, Minsk has already come up with a version of why the detainees had tickets for a flight to Istanbul. According to the investigation, it was a "cover operation", in fact, no one was going to fly anywhere.

A spokesman for the UK said that the detainees were "managed according to military standards," and a group was created in the WhatsApp messenger "to manage personnel."

Delirium of pure water. Even to me, not an expert, it is clear that tickets are an extremely short-term "alibi", and only Bantustans transmit orders through WatsApp.

Lukashenka should be made very painful in advance, so that the thought of giving out to the maydanuts does not arise.

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine and Belarus discussed the detention of Russians near Minsk ... Kiev supports Belarus in protecting its sovereignty and economic security

One gets the impression that the provocation was developed jointly. The joy and bustle of Kiev are understandable - even if they are not extradited (which is unlikely, since Lukashenka, though with bells and whistles, but understands how it can end), but Moscow's nerves will fray.

[newcomer]

It is very likely, if you consider that Minsk is a transshipment site for PMCs, this was known both in Minsk itself and in Kiev.

[Terenin]

Quote: newbie

One gets the impression that the provocation was developed jointly.

Old Man does not understand, but with him, whoever needs it, they work against Russia, tk. all this is included in the list of tasks of the Anglo-Saxons - not to let Russia raise its head, this is daily binding it with sanctions, far-fetched accusations, provocations, information attacks ...

Brzezinski

"Ukraine for us is an outpost of the West ... against Russia ..."

[Antifreeze]

So let's see if our leadership has any influence over Lukashenka.

[Egoza]

Quote: Antifreeze

So let's see if our leadership has any influence over Lukashenka.

Well, you can still see how it is "We do not abandon our own"

[Grandfather]

Quote: Egoza

Well, you can still see how it is "We do not abandon our own"
Reply

saying this, Putin meant his cooperative ...

[Evil543]

While the reaction of ours resembles the Balts, it is very slow and slow

[carstorm 11]

what does the influence on him have to do with it? he went all-in with this step. he doesn't care about anything. he raised the stakes so much that either victory or defeat. in such a situation, influence does nothing at all. in fact, he is now the same mouse that has been driven into a corner and which will even rush to a cat to survive.

[Egoza]

Quote: carstorm 11

he raised the stakes so much that either victory or defeat.

I beg you .... Yaytsenyuk also said "either a victory, or a cool head on." And nothing, lives, and lives well.

[carstorm 11]

what does it have to do with it? it's about political stakes. and victories or defeats.

[alexmach]

But who drove him into a corner if not himself?

[Thrifty]

Antifreeze -Vitaly, there is influence, but will the Kremlin want to use this influence, or will it let everything go by itself? ??

[kind]

Minsk has already come up with a version of why the detainees had tickets for a flight to Istanbul. According to the investigation, it was a "cover operation"

I have nothing against the Belarusian people, but Lukashenka shot himself in the head. Those. Belarus is an unreliable country for transit.

[Thrifty]

The moment of truth is both for the Kremlin, to show that the government is capable of anything, and for Lukashenka, to understand that the throne can collapse under them in an instant, and no one will give a helping hand!

[Ded_Mazay]

From dad's side, this whole story is of course level 80 meanness.
I wonder what the local Lukashenka fan club will tell us after this disgusting story ends? I wouldn't be surprised if they prefer to forget how it was.

[Evil543]

Yes, they will not say anything, his only opportunity to hold out is the army, if they do not support it, it will not have time to escape.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Evil543

his only way to hold out is the army, if not supported,

I would not say that the army. Use recruits for dispersal? No, there guys 18-20 years old also ate life in a "country for life." But the huge staff of the Internal Troops, OMON / MVD / KGB / KGK and other structures - yes. They do not feel pangs of conscience at all.

[Genak]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Quote: Evil543

his only way to hold out is the army, if not supported,

I would not say that the army. Use recruits for dispersal? No, there guys 18-20 years old also ate life in a "country for life." But the huge staff of the Internal Troops, OMON / MVD / KGB / KGK and other structures - yes. They do not feel pangs of conscience at all.

The cadets were returned to military schools, and are being trained, put up against the OMON and the Airborne Forces. On military equipment, numbers are changed to internal troops.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Genak

The cadets were returned to military schools, and are being trained

Is the information reliable? I saw something similar but about the rank and file of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the district police, which are trained on a massive scale for dispersal.
Well, and reports about "caches of militants" who will certainly find "valiant law enforcement officers" in the style of iron on glass.

[yuliatreb]

Well, in general, the ward number 6, dibile and you can not imagine, insane people and then such nonsense can not bear. To see the consequences of such arbitrariness, not just partners, but also neighbors and friends simply do not care, which speaks of their complete incapacity, I recall the famous words of Lavrov .........

[Poor]

well, all around are dabils but some words come to my mind, I don't remember who said - "... if you decided that you are the smartest, then you got a piz ... c."

[1536]

Apparently, Russia cannot exert any influence on what is not happening in Belarus. If it did, then the arrival of the Charge d'Affaires of the United States to Belarus literally on the eve of the provocation destroyed the remnants of this influence.
And most importantly, this provocation is not against the republic. No. She is against Russia and Russian citizens who will never be able to feel calm and free abroad, as events show that they can seize and imprison anyone who does not like them or, by the standards of local guardsmen, behaves strangely. It is just right to say “thank you” to Belarusians for science.

[carstorm 11]

exactly. a sense of security in Belarus, which was always at one point turned into dust. for the ambition of one person. For the last year he has behaved like an elephant in a china shop, but this cannot be called whims. Nobody believed him at all. even the western media write almost without exception that this is a setup with it made on the knee. In fact, he now has one way out - the security forces in front of crowds to hit on the head and blame everything on them. but then they will definitely not support him if the buzz starts. Zugzwang in every sense.

[nickname7]

The Republic of Belarus had the status of a neutral territory, negotiations were held there, and was also a transit country, which gave them a lot of money. But Lukashenko, for the sake of momentary interests, equated the status of the Republic of Belarus with from abiding by the laws to pirate Somalia. They are no longer a neutral and transit country.

[Thrifty]

1536 - it's just that the Kremlin does not want, as always, to bother itself with solving the problem, letting everything go by itself. After all, these are not those "friends", with a bunch of dough, for which you can fit in, having fucked with this gesheft. ...

[carstorm 11]

why do you think so? They even gathered the Security Council yesterday on this matter. it's just that everything is done by diplomatic means, for the time being, with the reservation of a union state. for them fit in at all levels.

[PSih2097]

Quote: carstorm 11

for them fit in at all levels.

I wonder what the "states" (USA) would do in such a situation?

[carstorm 11]

would also try to agree first. there, though all repulsed, but these are the basics.

[PSih2097]

Quote: carstorm 11

would also try to agree first. there, though all repulsed, but these are the basics.

I mean, after the failed negotiations (the fact that no one in Minsk is listening and not going to listen is a proven fact) ...

[carstorm 11]

we'll see. I do not remember such cases if in truth. that would be so many people at once ... now mostly specialists are trying to solve the issues. our connections and theirs are very tight. they won't tell us about it anyway.

[PSih2097]

Quote: carstorm 11

I do not remember such cases if in truth.

the main thing is that it would not be like in Iran in 1980 ... And the dad will wait for a repeat of Operation Storm 333 in 1979 in a new way ...

[carstorm 11]

let's see ... for me this whole situation is completely wild. and sheer surprise.

[A.TOR]

Really?
It’s strange to read about the unexpected, while observing, let's say, Russia's strained relations with almost all of its neighbors. To that was going

[carstorm 11]

with which neighbors? 404 and Tribals? everything is super with China. there are no problems with Mongolia either. do we have problems with the Kazakhs too? and maybe with the DPRK? do not pull the owl on the globe.

[alexmach]

just everything is done diplomatically

Here I will also support. Lukashenko clearly works for the public and looks more spectacular while he looks. We'll see how it will look in a week. Nobody knows what and how the Kremlin is doing, they are probably just quietly working on the issue, well, only Peskov calmly voiced his official position, I really want to hope so.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: 1536

Apparently, Russia cannot exert any influence on what is not happening in Belarus.

Well, Russia can still economically influence Lukashenka. The overwhelming amount of Belarusian food is sent to Russia, primarily milk, and here the Rosselkhoznadzor once again finds prohibited substances in Belarusian products and prohibits imports. Thousands of trucks stand on the Russian border with Belarusian products, cows continue to be milked, all dairy warehouses are crammed with milk, processing stops, there are no receipts to the Belarusian budget, salaries are delayed, only security officials are paid from the reserves. Soon the bulb will ripen, apples ... The Belarusian economy is just getting up, collective farmers are sharpening their pitchforks, state employees are demanding wages, Lukashenka is no longer able to blame Russia, no one believes him ... Well, that's enough, this is just my scenario, but what will Putin I do not know

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Anatol Klim

The Belarusian economy just stands up

It seems to be already ... in less than six months, the national debt grew by 17% to $ 52 billion. And this is just the beginning.

Quote: Anatol Klim

there are no receipts to the Belarusian budget, salaries are delayed,

There are no receipts, they turned on the "machine" and urgently increased the salary for all state employees before the elections. Even pensions were raised and paid ahead of schedule. Just an addition.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: 1536

If it was, then the arrival of the Charge d'Affaires of the United States

It's very simple. Captured a citizen under the protection of a dip. passports and are already sewing him a case of "militants" and the so-called "Tikhanovsky case". And this is not the first time in recent days.

[New Year day]

Quote: 1536

Apparently, Russia cannot exert any influence on what is not happening in Belarus.

1.For the first time, Lukashenka made a choice without the information and financial support of the Kremlin
2.Earlier Lukashenka has repeatedly stated about the interference of the Russian Federation in the affairs of Belarus
3. America is interested in the involvement of the Russian Federation in Belarus and at the same time warned about new sanctions in this case
4.More or less pro-Russian candidates are excluded from the electoral process
As a result, neither Lukashenka nor Tikhanovskaya are pro-Russian. If the dissatisfaction with nationalists is saddled, it may well be the Maidan. In this case, Lukashenka may well lead this movement. I believe that certain agreements between the EU and Lukashenka exist. Lukashenko is not the politician who puts all his eggs in one basket

[Brturin]

Quote: Silvestr

I believe that certain agreements between the EU and Lukashenka exist.

if they exist, then political, and for me, the main issue in the economy, they doubt that political issues could bring so many people to the streets ... the root of all dissatisfaction is the state of the economy and its prospects, and then are the EU and the states ready to support the economy of Belarus so that preserve what the AHL is proud of or pay for support with reforms, which is for it ....

[vVvAD]

There may be agreements. But where are the agreements with Yanukovych now?
In the West, nobody needs Lukashenka. Well, perhaps only as a transit figure for the transfer of power to their people.
Throw, as usual, pretending that they are not in business - it somehow itself ...

[Poor]

five points, amendments in action, and then international law.

[Li17]

All this is understandable, that's just a shame for the guys! I remember the first Chechen war, how they dumped ours ... And here the daddy put on a show, and very illogical and unwise!

[Poetry]

Lukashenka went over to the side of the fascists? It was their grandfathers who burned Khatyn. This is called betrayal.

[501 Legion]

Lukash is a woodpecker, with such actions he will definitely dig a hole for himself

[Ingvar 72]

Again as a source of UkroMID and UkroSMI.

[Coconut]

Ukraine country 404 ... no comments

[Olgovich]

It is obvious that in the organized preparation of the crime, the attackers prepared an alibi for themselves. A similar situation took place with the detention of 33 citizens of the Russian Federation, who had tickets to fly to Istanbul on 25 July.

Alibi is provided with valid documents.
Expired air tickets cannot serve.

If the Investigative Committee talks about a "crime" on the territory of Belarus, then how can we talk about ... the extradition of someone somewhere? What kind of game?

In general, they left the reels ...

[rocket757]

Question .... and this president is framed as the one who then fled to Rostov ???
Like, "their faithful" reported to him about the insidious plans of the neighbors .... or did he really break into the lead and finally chose his SIDE ???

[Reptiloid]

Greetings, Victor! How many years have passed since the Belarusians voted for unification with Russia. And --- nothing .... And now it's like that at all

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
We look at the development of events, then we draw conclusions!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Hi Dmitry
We look at the development of events, then we draw conclusions!

We look with hope, .....
I was always glad that Belarus celebrated November 7th ..... What are the red flags.
and now it is

[rocket757]

We do not make hasty conclusions ... the time is nervous, too many, they want to curry favor!
Nothing fundamentally new is happening.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

We do not make hasty conclusions ... the time is nervous, too many, they want to curry favor!
Nothing fundamentally new is happening.

In confirmation of our conversation about Belarus --- the tablet sent right now an advertisement for canned food made in Belarus --- cod caviar, called.

[rocket757]

Nothing personal, just business.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Nothing personal, just business.

Well, yes, a business based on the fact that someone else was stopped by Russia. examples
enough. It is hard to think that this business can disappear at once.
The tablet also demonstrates some caviar, did not have time to read it. ...

[rocket757]

Let's just wait. The elections will be held, any question will be resolved ..... in which direction, it is difficult to guess.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Reptiloid

How many years have passed since the Belarusians voted for unification with Russia. And --- nothing .... And now it's like that at all

How many years have passed since the citizens of the USSR voted to preserve the union. "And --- nothing .... And now it's like that at all "(c) Reptiloid

[Reptiloid]

This is exactly the case when our innocence does not please. But during the vote for the USSR --- I don't remember about it, I was too small. But when the Belarusians --- I already remember.

Quote: PSih2097

Quote: Reptiloid

How many years have passed since the Belarusians voted for unification with Russia. And --- nothing .... And now it's like that at all

How many years have passed since the citizens of the USSR voted to preserve the union. "And --- nothing .... And now it's like that at all "(c) Reptiloid

[askort154]

The tyrant fell into the trap of Yanukovych. But unlike Yanyk, Luca 8 will introduce a "special" position in the country to prevent "Russian interference" in the elections, which was prepared by an abandoned special group of 33 specialists, posing as fighters from "Wagner". But the West will outplay him, like Yanyka. The capital of the "Maidan" will not be Minsk, but Grodno. Luka dragged Belarus onto the Ukrainian rake.

[New Year day]

Quote: askort154

Luka dragged Belarus onto the Ukrainian rake.

very possible

[sleeve]

What's happening? Again, "expressing concern?" I can still understand when our people are kidnapped from Liberia, there is a direct enemy, well, or Thailand is "squeezed" to snot about extradition. What's this going on? CSTO club of interests? Well, the point is tight with the Crimea, Abkhazia, Ossetia. Here is why it "unclenched"? Or is that all, a map of Russia is a doormat map? Yes nifiga this is not for the election of Lukashenka. Just another kick in Russia, and personally in GDP. I do not care about the legality of actions and their open provocativeness. Nothing will happen to us, that's their motto.

[aszzz888]

sleeve (maxim) Today, 08:01 NEW
+4
What's happening? Again, "expressing concern?" I can still understand when our people are kidnapped from Liberia, there is a direct enemy, well, or Thailand is "squeezed" to snot about extradition. What's this going on? CSTO hobby club? ....

But father's intolerance towards Russia has become evident lately. Although he in words, and even then in Moscow, swears loyalty, but something tells me that not everything is so cloudless with him. Holds a pebble in his bosom, definitely!

[magnate]

The head of the investigation group Agafonov gave an interview to ONT https://ont.by/news/novye-podrobnosti-v-dele-zaderzhaniya-pod-minskom-bojcov-chastnoj-voennoj-kompanii-kuda-na-samom-dele-ehali-turisty -iz-rossii
If you believe the article, then oh!

[Zaurbek]

Now the illegal detention will turn into a "legitimate" request for extradition at the Ukrainian request.

[HAM]

Lukashenka has already "bit the bit", you can expect anything from him ....
But, this is still just the beginning. The saddest events will begin in a week, I believe that Lukashenko will do anything ... Pompeo clearly promised him something (most likely to keep the chair, despite the Western rhetoric, or maybe a dacha in California) .. . for this it is customary to pay with Russophobia ... only it ends in tears ... for the people.

[cniza]

Quote: HAM

.only it ends in tears ... for the people.

It will end even worse for him ...

[HAM]

Victor, I don't think it will end worse for him ... he cares about Kolya, and he doesn't forget himself, and the dacha in California is quite an acceptable price for Belarus ...

[alexmach]

Interestingly, everyone remembers Kolya all the time, but somehow they forgot about Luka's two eldest sons.

[cniza]

And probably there are grandchildren, so everything is very muddy ...

[cniza]

Quote: HAM

Victor, I don't think it will end worse for him ... he cares about Kolya, and he doesn't forget himself, and the dacha in California is quite an acceptable price for Belarus ...

Of course, everything can be, but the United States has never kept its promises ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Quote: HAM

.only it ends in tears ... for the people.

It will end even worse for him ...

Not, let him train our "for the teeth". Everything does not reach them.

[cniza]

They dance on a rake, and then wonder ...

[cniza]

A spokesman for the UK said that the detainees were "managed according to military standards," and a group was created in the WhatsApp messenger "to manage personnel."

Someone went to the police ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

A spokesman for the UK said that the detainees were "managed according to military standards," and a group was created in the WhatsApp messenger "to manage personnel."

Someone went to the police ...

About "somebody"you said well

Greetings Victor

[cniza]

Greetings

There is too much we do not know to concretize, but complete carelessness ...

[Alexander X]

Sometimes I cannot understand the meaning of the actions of the rulers. So, until now I do not understand why the pension reform was carried out. I did not understand the meaning of the actions to arrest the Russians. Both foolish decisions nullified public confidence in the government. At the same time, no dividends were brought. The only thing that comes to mind is: someone purposefully gives advice (?) To the leaders of states to create their anti-rating ... IMHO ...
If he gives the guys kaklam, it will become an enemy in the eyes of the Russians ... And even if "spoons are found," then the sediment will remain ...

[muham]

And since when did the mulberries begin to confess?

According to Prilepin

something wrong.

[ximkim]

I think that Belarus will most likely transfer the detained people to Ukraine

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Lukashenka lost his mind and decided to commit suicide? The onset of dementia and insanity, provoked by a "friendly" environment, can be seen, of course. But have they reached critical importance? I don’t think so. Rather, some VERY cunning, in Lukashenka's opinion, game is going on, in which he must become a winner. But I absolutely DO NOT like its course! And I see Lukashenka only as losers !!!

[aszzz888]

Vladimir Mashkov (Vladimir Mashkov) Today, 10:27 am NEW
+1
Lukashenka lost his mind and decided to commit suicide? The onset of dementia and insanity, provoked by a "friendly" environment, can be seen, of course. But have they reached critical importance? I don’t think so. Rather, there is some kind of VERY cunning, according to Lukashenka, a game in which he must be the winner. But I absolutely DO NOT like its course! And I see Lukashenka only as losers !!!

Maybe he wants to siphon off any preferences, such as discounts on gas, fuels and lubricants to a price of a few kopecks? He is very dissatisfied with the real prices, and even the Nazis have become a little tough to promote fuel and lubricants into unnecessary ones.

[APASUS]

Looks like Lukashenko took the same advisers as Poroshenko? I don't know how it will taxi now

[Nikolay1]

Everything is quite simple ... Lukashenka was betrayed from his entourage ... Putin, at Father's request, sent specialists to prevent provocations, and the special service of the Republic of Belarus, on a tip from outside, tied everyone up, now Father is twisting so as not to lose face, but he is now being checked for lice and devotion to the west, forced to give Ross. specialists to Ukraine ... And then Lukashenka got into trouble, how he will get out x / s

[Yarik]

If the father's services prove that they were not going to fly anywhere, then they should be tried on the territory of Belarus. And not to give anyone to anyone until the deadline is complete.

[Tamparu]

Quote: Yarik

If the father's services prove that they were not going to fly anywhere, then they should be tried on the territory of Belarus. And not to give anyone to anyone until the deadline is complete.

Good. If they prove that they were not going to fly anywhere? It is a crime? Need to judge? Maybe they changed their mind and decided to go fishing, or maybe go hunting? Or maybe just a break from family life or banal everyday life? Now, if they prove that they wanted to commit illegal actions, then yes, we must judge!
Sincerely,

[aszzz888]

Meanwhile, Minsk has already come up with a version,

Do not bring it, Lord! if in Minsk they make a deal with an unnecessary one !!! It will be - I can't even imagine the consequences of such steps !!!!! "!" !!. Reason, and take Minsk officials away from sin, Lord!

[Sergey red]

If Lukashenka gives them back, he will sign his own verdict.
And maybe someone will think that "rest" on the territory of another country in times of troubles is fraught with ... even, according to documents, like "hammers"? Or so, have left for the country? Belarus has recently been very ... brotherly pat on the shoulder ... just got it with their "manners"!

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Greg Miller

Old Man is an elderly man, as he will be presented, so it will be ... But his entourage, wants to take him to the Maidan and overthrow, just not in favor of some Babarik and others, but in their own favor, in order to carry out privatization in Belarus themselves ... So Makei and the company are not sleeping ...

let this old man remember that there is also a family behind him and let him remember ... otherwise when he runs from the border he will receive a kickback, or maybe the whole family will be given back ... they not only spit into the well, but it still happens and they try to drink

[Ovsigovets]

of course everything is clear and our reaction is clear. BUT I would like to hear experts on this "legal procedure" and relations precisely in terms of the possibility of extraditing Russian citizens to third countries .... we have a lot of different agreements signed with Belarus and in this context, too, most likely a bunch ... and I for some reason I am confident that the Republic of Belarus has undertaken not to extradite Russian citizens to third countries. And so in fact - will hand over the citizens of the Russian Federation - cut off the head of this old fool and throw the dogs

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Yarik

If the father's services prove that they were not going to fly anywhere, then they should be tried on the territory of Belarus. And not to give anyone to anyone until the deadline is complete.

you can judge having a criminal offense or intent thereof - proven ...... So - and for what will we judge?

[Ovsigovets]

I sit thinking .... but I wonder ...... if Grygorych moves to the west - does he really expect that Western democracies will leave him in power ??? Here the answer seems to be known to everyone. And if he doesn't move, what does he do ??? Does he really expect that his cunning ass after such freaks (if he gives it to Ukraine) will be covered by someone ??? Or will someone continue to sponsor his great economy ??? I don't understand a nikher - who is there what is there and what is thinking

[Ivan Ivanov_6]

Quote: Yarik

If the father's services prove that they were not going to fly anywhere, then they should be tried on the territory of Belarus. And not to give anyone to anyone until the deadline is complete.

Batka has no terms for terrorism, for this there is a tower at once !!!

[aiden]

There are several questions:
1. Why fly to Turkey through Belarus? They could be sent by a military aircraft.
2. Among the representatives of PMCs there are a lot of nationalities and frostbites. They were also seen in Donbass. Are they trying to drain them?
3. Why did Peskov instantly react to zadrezhny? Usually he scratches his ass for a week and tries to give birth, what to say
4. And not deliberate is the drain of these guys. Several years ago I said that they would gain experience and overthrow power in the Russian Federation. Moreover, in addition to the Donbass, they have many forest training camps. Wars will end sooner or later, and they can do nothing but kill. And they want power and money.
But these questions are pertinent if they are indeed PMCs. Which is most likely true, if there were ordinary guys, then no one would have remembered them here