Moscow wins strategic victory in Transcaucasia

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The joint military exercises of Ankara and Baku, during which the Turkish army entered the territory of Azerbaijan, raised an information wave in the media. A number of publications, especially Ukrainian ones, claim that Erdogan has beaten Putin in this way, "crushing" the Transcaucasus.

At the same time, for some reason, few people remember that the Turkish-Azerbaijani maneuvers are not taking place for the first time. Before that, they were held last summer, although they were not so large-scale.



In addition, the Russian Federation recently conducted a surprise check in the Southern Military District, in which Russian units stationed in Armenia also participated. In this regard, no panic was observed either in Azerbaijan or Turkey. However, as well as regarding the upcoming large-scale maneuvers "Kavkaz-2020", which involves the military personnel of Armenia, which is a member of the CSTO.

Of course, it should not be denied that the entry of troops by Ankara into Azerbaijan is a warning signal for both Armenia and Russia. Erdogan does not even try to hide his unconditional support for Baku. And it could not be otherwise, because these two countries are connected both religiously and ethnically. Turks and Azerbaijanis speak practically the same language. In addition, they have common Turkic roots.

But this does not mean that Ankara will push Baku to war with Yerevan. The destabilization of the situation in this region is extremely disadvantageous for the Turks. Do not forget that the route of the Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline TANAP runs here. In addition, the Russian military is located in Armenia, and Erdogan cannot quarrel with Russia.

Actually, Putin is also not eager to go into conflict with Ankara, with which quite good partnerships have been developing recently and several joint projects are being implemented. In addition, the escalation of hostilities between Yerevan and Baku is extremely unprofitable for Russia. After all, both Armenia and Azerbaijan, despite their mutual hostility, are on good terms with Moscow. Both of these Transcaucasian states are involved in trade with Russia, including in the military-industrial sphere.

Neither Putin nor Erdogan is interested in fomenting a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Both presidents voiced this position during a telephone conversation that took place between them recently.

At the moment, even the introduction of Turkish troops into Azerbaijan in the presence of a Russian contingent in Armenia is beneficial to Moscow. Is it strange? Not at all. Thus, Russia and Turkey will be able to cool the "hot heads" in Baku and Yerevan and prevent the start of full-scale hostilities between them. At the same time, Moscow will not have to get involved in this conflict and take sides in it, even politically. And as a result, this fact can be considered a strategic victory of Moscow in the Transcaucasus - the Turkish troops will definitely leave the territory of Azerbaijan after the exercises, Yerevan and Baku by that time will have to cool down anyway, everyone will remain "with their own", and the outbreak of conflict is extinguished in the mode of telephone negotiations Moscow. The main thing is to consolidate the peace process, which is important for all countries in the region.
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  1. +6
    31 July 2020 16: 20
    This is exactly the sandbox where others were certainly not invited. As long as the Saxons don’t brazenly rule there, everything can be agreed upon.
    By the way, it was in Armenia that the Saxons brazenly built their nest thoroughly, this should not be forgotten....
    They are the next ones who imagined that having quarreled with Russia they would have better luck right now....
    Well, well, we should look around, carefully. Maybe some thoughts will arise out of nowhere.
    1. +7
      31 July 2020 16: 29
      It was in Armenia that the Saxons brazenly built their nest thoroughly, this should not be forgotten...

      And they just claim that Turkey beat Russia in Azerbaijan... in general, as always... the main thing for them is to quarrel with everyone else and skim the cream off these quarrels.
      1. +3
        31 July 2020 16: 41
        To suspect minke whales of some kind of “subtle game”, you have to work hard. They press like a roller, according to the same pattern.
        You can’t say that they can’t do anything, they have great resources... and it’s difficult to directly counteract them. We wasted a lot of time before we realized that this was not an accident!
        That’s how you need to mind your own business, for the good of your country and people!!! The former will then reach out to us, because on the other hand, only chaos and ruin await them.
    2. +3
      31 July 2020 16: 46
      So this situation is beneficial for them too. They are very fond of smoldering regional conflicts.
      1. -1
        31 July 2020 19: 16
        What is beneficial is something that can be at least loudly announced in order to draw attention to the “victories” of the current administration! What benefit for later, for the special services and others, is NOT presented to the voter. He insists that they won’t waste money. They will get by with the obligation and small handouts.
        1. 0
          1 August 2020 01: 01
          These problems are not specifically beneficial for the Turks, although they take away a good amount of concentration here, they have to tinker themselves, there are interested parties who do not need to work here, but only need to put a burden on the opponent on the track. The only problem with these smart guys is that on other tracks they reinforce their competitors with a lesson, like a dead coach chasing students through the mountains, hoping that they will die there, getting their own nightmare at the end.
          1. +1
            1 August 2020 02: 41
            Such a night philosophy... in the morning the sun will rise and everything will look different.
    3. +36
      31 July 2020 16: 52
      DEAR AUTHOR! your title is not entirely clear to me... could you please detail where and how “Moscow wins a strategic victory in Transcaucasia” and over whom?? your article and title are dissonant.
      1. -5
        31 July 2020 19: 28
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        Could you please detail where and how “Moscow wins a strategic victory in Transcaucasia”

        Don't get involved in this stupid mess.
        And this is already a victory.
        Awesome.

        Just imagine, your neighbors come to you with an offer to rob a bank. With a virtually guaranteed bullet to the head in the process. And you managed to kick them off, almost without spoiling your relationship with them.
        Is this a victory or not?
      2. +3
        1 August 2020 05: 06
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        your article and title are dissonant.

        good
        Yes, many people have spoken about this dissonance more than once. With such strict moderators who can recognize swearing in prepositions and flood in clarifications, one can only wonder how articles with headlines from the yellow press (even with interesting content) continue to spoil the site’s reputation, turning its materials into some kind of libelous feuilletons. It’s time to point out to authors the inadmissibility of inventing advertising titles for articles that do not reflect the essence of the creation itself.
    4. +2
      31 July 2020 17: 02
      It’s suspicious, of course, that all this runs next to a gas pipeline...
    5. +4
      31 July 2020 18: 30
      Quote: rocket757
      This is exactly the sandbox where others were certainly not invited

      They were not called, but in Yerevan there is more spirit of thousands of SGA “diplomats” with cash!? So decide whose sandbox this is, even without taking into account the Soros gang, which bought up the entire top of Semi-Armenia!
      1. +2
        31 July 2020 19: 13
        Georgia, Armenia, this is poof. They can only be kept by the Cardinal, and even then, for him such past examples are not further than the threshold.
        Azerbaijan is already serious if it treats this neighbor attentively.
        Of course, we had to take everyone who was there seriously, BUT, at this moment in time we need to raise our own and build at such a level that the neighbors, the peoples, would have a real interest, and not appease them with handouts!
        For any plans of the enemy, there must be a clear, real plan and not rush around as if undermined.
        1. +2
          31 July 2020 19: 33
          The Russian Federation cannot take Azerbaijan lightly, these are close people, and they are not against being reconciled by the Russian Federation with Armenia. They want an honest solution with Karabakh, there is no other way, and honestly there is no other way without the Russian Federation, it is necessary to propose a compromise method, it is foolish to keep moving away.
          1. -4
            31 July 2020 19: 44
            Empty. They won’t really listen there, they have others blowing in their ears.
            When they decide that they themselves have a mustache, let them prove that they grew or put on a mustache for a reason.
            Let THEY PROVE TO US that we need to reconcile them!!!
            Couple do only what WE NEED!
            1. +1
              31 July 2020 21: 05
              No proof is required; if not to reconcile, then to conquer Azerbaijan in the CSTO is an extremely undesirable path.
            2. +1
              31 July 2020 21: 09
              The fact is that we need their stability.
              1. -3
                31 July 2020 21: 23
                WE need OUR stability. They wanted to make a fuss there, let them sort it out THEMSELVES. WE DO NOT OWE ANYTHING TO ANYONE!
                The dispute is over. "themselves with a mustache."
                1. +1
                  1 August 2020 01: 21
                  The stability of the Russian Federation is inseparable from the stability of the CSTO; if the CSTO is covered with a copper basin, then the qualitative transition of our stability, surrounded by unstable neighbors, will be towards degradation. Or towards North Korea.
                  1. 0
                    1 August 2020 02: 44
                    The stability of Russia is the stability of its components. Those. government structures, economy and prosperity of the people. Everything else will be added by definition, according to the law of the universe!
                    Everything else is empty verbiage.
                  2. +2
                    1 August 2020 05: 17
                    Quote: Andrey.AN
                    The stability of the Russian Federation is inseparable from the stability of the CSTO, if the CSTO is covered with a copper basin...

                    Let's make a clarification: the stability of the CSTO is based on the power of the Russian Armed Forces. If the RF Armed Forces begin to degrade, then the treaty itself and collective security will be of a formal nature.
                    Collective security is possible in a group of countries that have common political, economic foundations and cultural ties. Sorry, but making Russia a security structure is wrong.
                    It is easier to conclude bilateral agreements on economic cooperation and mutual non-aggression pacts, rather than sticking Russian soldiers into the fire of interethnic conflicts and waving them around like a flail. These are, first of all, citizens of Russia, sons and daughters of our Fatherland.
          2. +3
            31 July 2020 22: 00
            It is difficult to persuade them to compromise. An Azerbaijani writes here that all Azerbaijanis were evicted from Armenia. I ask him a question: how many Armenians are left in Baku? He doesn’t understand the question and begins to specify how many Azerbaijanis were evicted from which region.
            1. +3
              31 July 2020 22: 21
              Quote: Nikolai Korovin
              I ask him a question: how many Armenians are left in Baku?

              I can answer this question for you. About 20 thousand Armenians remained in Azerbaijan. International marriages, mostly women, took the surnames of their husbands. They live and work.. Until 94, a family lived in our entrance. The man is pure Russian, the wife too. Well, he was adopted by an Armenian woman. The surname is Armenian, they themselves are purely Slavic. And his stepmother lived with them. Everyone knew, no one touched. After 94, the man changed his last name, changed his apartment and moved to another part of the city. We met about 10 years ago by chance. He pretended as if he didn’t recognize him. We sat and drank a little. We remembered the old things and laughed we chatted. Well, tell me, what is his fault? He might not have changed his last name. And so it was clear who he was. There are many like him throughout the former Union.
              1. +3
                1 August 2020 05: 30
                Quote: lonely
                Well, tell me, what is his fault? He might not have changed his last name. And so it was clear who he was. There are many like him throughout the former Union.

                The problematic situation here is that a large number of natives from the Union republics remained on the territory of the Russian Federation (for many reasons), BUT!!! stop Can you name at least one example when “occupiers, foreigners, foreigners, people of other faiths” were driven out of Russia, taking away their property and depriving them of housing? Personally, I don't remember.
                I wonder why it happened that the Russians were persecuted and forced to leave the newly formed independent states? Maybe just because before that we often went ahead with our charter into other people's mosques and monasteries?
                Adults who consider themselves smart and literate should be responsible for their affairs and actions independently.
            2. -1
              1 August 2020 11: 54
              According to official statistics alone, about 40 thousand Armenians live in Azerbaijan. And these are not only mixed marriages, but also purely Armenian families.
              1. -4
                1 August 2020 12: 58
                Quote: KURT330
                According to official statistics alone, about 40 thousand Armenians live in Azerbaijan. And these are not only mixed marriages, but also purely Armenian families.

                And here comes our great Turk. Calm down Natsik. You won't fool anyone here with your stupid nonsense. Jews also lived well for the time being in the Third Reich.
                1. 0
                  1 August 2020 14: 11
                  I've never met you dumber wink And we also know who erects monuments to the allies of the 3rd Reich laughing Well, you yourself are a Nazi. Once you sober up, we'll talk.
                  1. -1
                    1 August 2020 14: 17
                    Quote: KURT330
                    I've never met you dumber

                    Very strange. You see him in the mirror every day. Is it really worse there than I thought? It’s sad, I can only sympathize with the Azerbaijani people. laughing
                    Quote: KURT330
                    Once you sober up, we'll talk.

                    About how the Turks invented the wheel and built the pyramids?
                    1. -1
                      1 August 2020 14: 20
                      We don't need your rotten sympathies. And spit it out already, or you’ll suffocate wink
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2020 14: 26
                        Quote: KURT330
                        We don't need your rotten sympathies. And spit it out already, or you’ll suffocate

                        Needed. Still so necessary. Who else will feel sorry for you when you get rid of the Armenians once again? Turkey? Yes, they will gladly give you hundreds of dollars for some Turkish stream. laughing If Russia puts a bolt on you, this will be the end of Azerbaijan. By the way, how is IT in your village? laughing
                      2. -1
                        1 August 2020 14: 39
                        You'd rather put the bolt on yourself wink How are your bolters in Belarus? Are they still putting the bolts in? There were no special ceremonies with us, like with your Armenian brothers, so if anyone gets merged, it will be them. Well, Luka will soon drain the flock of “lost sheep” that the Belarusians grabbed wink So don't slow down, crimson suits you wink
                      3. 0
                        1 August 2020 14: 48
                        Quote: KURT330
                        There were no special ceremonies with us like with your Armenian brothers

                        Yes, you really are a completely stupid aul geopolitical lunatic. Do you think Aliyev wants to be a vassal of Turkey and Erdogan’s errand boy? You don’t understand how the bolt fits at all. Because he is also small and snotty.
                        Quote: KURT330
                        How are your bolters in Belarus? Are they still putting the bolts in? There were no special ceremonies with us, like with your Armenian brothers, so if anyone gets merged, it will be them. Well, Luka will soon drain the flock of “lost sheep” that the Belarusians grabbed

                        And what did you want to say? Is an Azernatsik village schoolboy discovering geopolitics? laughing
                        So what about the Azerbaijani IT sector and the water supply in your village? laughing
              2. 0
                1 August 2020 18: 39
                According to official statistics alone, about 40 thousand Armenians live in Azerbaijan.
                - Come on, this is bullshit and a lie...
      2. -1
        31 July 2020 21: 13
        Quote: Tol100v
        but in Yerevan there is more spirit of thousands of SGA “diplomats” with cash!
        -Dear Igor, I see you are well aware of the number of “diplomats” of the SGA. Either you are one of them, or you are conducting anti-Armenian propaganda with the finances of the same Soros gang.
    6. +3
      1 August 2020 08: 25
      Good day, Victor! hi hi Throughout the ENTIRE 19th century, England intrigued against Russia at these borders in one way or another. She tried to decide in her favor, Even then it was her area of ​​interest
      It was then, in 1829, that the Russian Ambassador Griboyedov was killed as a result of their provocations.
      And the British came up with the term ---big game
      1. +2
        1 August 2020 08: 40
        Dmitry, now is a different time, and the island lion has long been eaten by moths....
        Now they are stupidly buying up the top people and all the business. and the herd is fed chewing gum, which, in principle, has not changed since those times... perhaps the color has changed slightly and that’s all.
        1. +2
          1 August 2020 09: 08
          You see, Victor, they retained the direction and experience of their policy, although, yes, their colonial empire after the war greatly decreased and weakened... But they retained their influence on the former colonies.
          1. +2
            1 August 2020 09: 18
            Local politicians act the way they were raised also because the systematics are set up, it is so beneficial for them. As soon as contradictions appear, especially financial ones, it will immediately become clear what is what.
            1. +2
              1 August 2020 09: 37
              Once they start a topic, they don’t abandon it, they continue no matter what.
              Remember how WW1 began, its results and prerequisites, preparations for WW2.
              1. +2
                1 August 2020 09: 48
                Stubborn. We are simply stating that this was the case... it is not necessary that it will always be this way, as the ethnic group rapidly mixes. The process is underway!
                1. +2
                  1 August 2020 10: 25
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Stubborn. We are simply stating that this was the case... it is not necessary that it will always be this way, as the ethnic group rapidly mixes. The process is underway!

                  Victor, can you explain? If we look at post-Soviet diplomacy, what do we see? Can it be compared with the Soviet one? Maybe I missed something? What I don’t know? True, I didn’t read all the comments.
                  1. +2
                    1 August 2020 11: 38
                    Dmitry, let's coat look at things. The Britons could do a lot, but not everything, and as their empire decrepit, their capabilities shrank to the size of a dirty trick and no longer the largest.
                    To be honest, I don’t care about them and are not at all interested. It will never be the same as it was before, but the new, what is and can be, is in principle the same, but the methods are changing. This is nothing new for me...
                    And then they began to shout that the world is changing, something like that... but in fact, it is still a struggle for influence, power, resources, etc.
                    Everything as usual. We need to track and stop...
                    It’s just that there’s no one in particular to stop it! Because the struggle is not principled, just a division between some heroes, against others!
                    When there are no idialogical differences, everything becomes like a jar of spiders. Like this.
                    1. +1
                      1 August 2020 13: 19
                      ......that the world is changing.... the struggle for power, influence, resources... Everything is as always,......
                      Which is what angers me, Victor. The USSR included the union republics and created the Warsaw bloc, capable of resisting NATO. Where is all the property? So what now? Relations with all republics are deteriorating, what place does our country occupy on the world stage.
                      .....no one to stop......
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2020 16: 53
                        Dmitry, you need to respect yourself, you need to respect your people, you need to look after your interests!!!
                        And the rest must deserve respect! You won't earn anything with handouts and huckstering habits! And you will lose your strength when things are not going well within the country!
                        We must start with ourselves!
    7. +1
      1 August 2020 11: 02
      This is interesting! (For those who like this interesting thing)
      Recently I watched a certain BBC film dedicated to the nature of Azerbaijan. So, Azerbaijan, the Caspian Sea is the Middle Eastern region, and not “Russia, which we lost.”
    8. 0
      1 August 2020 20: 23
      They would have already formed some Transcaucasian Federal Republic with the capital in Nagorno-Karabakh and lived in peace.
  2. BAI
    +10
    31 July 2020 16: 20
    the entry of Turkish troops into Azerbaijan in the presence of a Russian contingent in Armenia is beneficial to Moscow.

    What's the benefit here? The armies of the Russian Federation and Turkey (a NATO member) may be drawn into the conflict. With all the ensuing consequences. A banal fight near a border village could escalate into the 3rd World War.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 17: 05
      It’s very interesting where our people can come into conflict with the Turks in Transcaucasia? The fight across the Caucasus ridge is interesting. We have a base in Gyumri and there is no land connection. Or do you think the Turks will rush north from Baku? It is unlikely, however, that this event looks dran nach Nord performed by the Janissaries.
  3. +2
    31 July 2020 16: 21
    But this does not mean that Ankara will push Baku towards war with Yerevan.
    Here, in general, it became unclear what the author wanted to say...
    Either the capitals are the only ones fighting, or Baku has separated from Azerbaijan request
  4. +2
    31 July 2020 16: 22
    This conflict, in theory, should cool the hotheaded Armenians. Who shouted about the withdrawal of Russian troops from Armenia. The directors of this conflict hoped that Russia would rush to resolve it. And the Russian leadership practically remained neutral. So, everything is in our favor, we just feel sorry for the dead.
  5. +5
    31 July 2020 16: 33
    Somehow I didn’t understand what Russia’s victory was...
    The fact that Türkiye sent in troops?
    Not funny.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 16: 37
      Quote: Ilshat
      Not funny

      Are you one of those who would find it funny if people continued to die on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan? Really not funny.
      1. +6
        31 July 2020 16: 43
        So which side is Russia?
        Türkiye sent troops...
        What did Russia do?
        But nothing!
        That is absolutely nothing.
      2. 0
        1 August 2020 13: 04
        Quote: Volodin
        Are you one of those who would find it funny if people continued to die on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan? Really not funny.

        Maybe we can call NATO again? But what am I talking about? Türkiye has been in NATO for a long time. Such “victories” are akin to the victories of the Khokhlonatsiks. We decided to beat them in the bottom-breaking competition?
    2. +2
      31 July 2020 20: 35
      Not quite clear! According to the Treaty of Kars, does Türkiye have the right to send troops to Nakhichevan? She has a permanent group there even without training! Türkiye and the Russian Federation have equal responsibility for Nakhichevan!
      1. 0
        31 July 2020 21: 24
        According to the Treaty of Kars, does Türkiye have the right to send troops to Nakhichevan? She has a permanent group there even without training! Türkiye and the Russian Federation have equal responsibility for Nakhichevan!
        !!!
        I noticed exactly hi
      2. +1
        31 July 2020 22: 27
        Quote: finish
        Even without training there is a permanent group there!

        There is no group there. Why send troops where you have a group? There is a border with Turkey. According to the constitution of Azerbaijan, it is prohibited to place military bases of another country in the country.
  6. +5
    31 July 2020 17: 01
    What kind of victory are we talking about? Has Nagorno-Karabakh ceased to be a cause of dispute? We shared our influence with Turkey.
    1. 0
      31 July 2020 22: 45
      What kind of victory are we talking about? Has Nagorno-Karabakh ceased to be a cause of dispute? We shared our influence with Turkey.
      Everything is natural, if it has left somewhere, it means it has arrived somewhere. There is no “Union”, the sphere of influence has become smaller. The only thing I don’t agree with is the “division of influence”, we are just maintaining balance as much as possible, an open conflict on our border is clearly not beneficial to us. We need to keep the situation under control, which we can do so far. And there is a pure calculation of the required combination in a given game.
  7. -2
    31 July 2020 17: 18
    The Turks sent the army for exercises in Azerbaijan with the consent of Moscow. In order to show Russophobic Armenia what will happen if Russia leaves.
    1. -2
      1 August 2020 13: 08
      Quote: uran
      The Turks sent the army for exercises in Azerbaijan with the consent of Moscow. In order to show Russophobic Armenia what will happen if Russia leaves

      Do not make me laugh. Maybe you can also tell us about the Russophile Azerbaijan, the Azernazi?
      1. -1
        1 August 2020 13: 49
        Judging by your comments, your level of communication leaves much to be desired. all the best
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  8. +6
    31 July 2020 17: 19
    – Do you see the victory?
    - No.
    - I don’t see it either. And she is.
    1. +8
      31 July 2020 17: 27
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Do you see the victory?

      The author is handsome.... he put everything together into one mess and in the end, somewhere over the horizon, he still achieved a strategic victory.
      P.S. I remembered the great Bulgakov. “You professor are up to something awkward. They will make fun of you!”
      1. -1
        1 August 2020 13: 10
        Quote: lonely
        The author is handsome.... he put everything together into one mess and in the end, somewhere over the horizon, he still achieved a strategic victory.

        This is how states probably decline. When you are presented with defeat in the rank of victory.
  9. 0
    31 July 2020 17: 34
    Thus, Russia and Turkey will be able to cool down the “hot heads” in Baku and Yerevan and prevent the outbreak of full-scale hostilities between them.


    There is something in this, but believe Erdogan...
  10. +11
    31 July 2020 17: 35
    If Moscow (Putin) has victories, they are exclusively strategic.
    But a strange thing is that none of these victories brought anything practically tangible to the Russian people....
    1. -4
      31 July 2020 19: 22
      Quote: U-58
      But a strange thing is that none of these victories brought anything practically tangible to the Russian people....

      Are soldiers not killed “almost palpable” or not?
      1. +2
        31 July 2020 19: 45
        I’m embarrassed to ask, whose unkilled soldiers are they? Armenians and Azerbaijanis were killed exactly.
        Russia is not a party to the conflict.
        So what's the point of notation?
        1. -1
          31 July 2020 19: 52
          Quote: U-58
          I’m embarrassed to ask, whose unkilled soldiers are they?

          Russian.
          Do not hesitate to ask.

          Quote: U-58
          Russia is not a party to the conflict.

          Russia is a member of the CSTO. With all the consequences. Including obligations to enter the war on the side of Armenia in the event of an act of aggression against it.
          For example, if during the war for Karabakh Azerbaijan is forced to strike military targets on the territory of Armenia.

          So don’t assume that “Russia is not a party to the conflict”
          1. +2
            31 July 2020 20: 53
            As I understand it, the key phrase is forced. It is possible that Armenia will provoke Azerbaijan in order to involve Russia; it already tried to do this on July 12. Thank God, Baku understood what Armenia was provoking. In any case, Armenia will leave the orbit of Russian influence, at least everything is heading towards this.
            1. 0
              31 July 2020 21: 09
              Quote: uran
              As I understand it, the key phrase is forced.

              Well, yes.
              Because it is not in the interests of Azerbaijan for Russia to intervene in the conflict, and it will try with all its might to prevent attacks on the territory of Armenia itself. Which Armenians will definitely take advantage of.

              Quote: uran
              It is possible that Armenia will provoke Azerbaijan in order to involve Russia; it already tried to do this on July 12.

              Aggressive Azerbaijan attacks Armenia precisely at the moment when Turkey and Russia have problems among themselves... And when Turkey is limited in its ability to help or try to stop Russia from interfering. This is the second time. And something doesn’t add up here. Well, Azerbaijanis shouldn't be so stupid.

              Quote: uran
              In any case, Armenia will leave the orbit of Russian influence, at least everything is heading towards this.

              Nothing is going anywhere.
              The United States and the European Union do not want to give Armenia guarantees that Karabakh and other occupied territories will remain its property.
              Therefore, Armenia simply has nowhere to go; Russia is the only guarantor of its security.
              1. 0
                31 July 2020 22: 09
                Quote: Spade
                Aggressive Azerbaijan attacks Armenia precisely at the moment when Turkey and Russia have problems among themselves... And when Turkey is limited in its ability to help or try to stop Russia from interfering. This is the second time. And something doesn’t add up here. Well, Azerbaijanis shouldn't be so stupid.

                The only one who benefits from the strained relations between the Russian Federation and Turkey in this region is Armenia. She will try to drag Russia into this conflict.
                Quote: Spade
                Nothing is going anywhere.
                The United States and the European Union do not want to give Armenia guarantees that Karabakh and other occupied territories will remain its property.
                Therefore, Armenia simply has nowhere to go; Russia is the only guarantor of its security.

                Russia has enough problems of its own. Armenia is trying to move towards the West and is therefore trying to spark a conflict with Azerbaijan. If the Russian Federation refuses assistance, it will have a reason to leave the Russian Federation’s orbit. Fortunately, the ground has been prepared for a long time, right up to the closure of Russian TV channels.
                1. 0
                  31 July 2020 22: 22
                  Quote: uran
                  The only one who benefits from the strained relations between the Russian Federation and Turkey in this region is Armenia.

                  No, Armenia has nothing to do with it. Russia and Türkiye are doing quite well themselves. Armenia is simply, apparently, actively trying to take advantage of the latest disagreements.
                  Because twice is no longer a “coincidence”.

                  Quote: uran
                  If the Russian Federation refuses assistance, it will have a reason to leave the Russian Federation’s orbit

                  So yes... But the price will be Karabakh. But the Armenian political elites are not yet ready to sacrifice them.
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2020 00: 50
                    Quote: Spade
                    So yes... But the price will be Karabakh. But the Armenian political elites are not yet ready to sacrifice them.

                    The Armenians do not need Karabakh; they achieved nothing by occupying Karabakh. For a long time they have had an anti-Russian vector, only the narrow-minded man in the street considers Armenia an ally.
          2. +1
            1 August 2020 13: 16
            Quote: Spade
            Russia is a member of the CSTO. With all the consequences. Including obligations to enter the war on the side of Armenia in the event of an act of aggression against it.
            For example, if during the war for Karabakh Azerbaijan is forced to strike military targets on the territory of Armenia.

            So don’t assume that “Russia is not a party to the conflict”

            Well, we have Calibers, Su-57 and other terrible things. Is it really necessary to send in infantry to help Armenia in the fight against the aggressor? Is the Azerbaijani army really such a serious opponent for our mighty army equipped with the latest weapons? And why are those dying in Syria worse?
            1. 0
              1 August 2020 15: 06
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Is it really to help Armenia in the fight against the aggressor?

              Aggressor?
              Come on.....
            2. -1
              1 August 2020 22: 43
              You are an Armenian fox wearing the skin of a bear. But it is clear that the size is not the same, it is heavier, and it is becoming more and more difficult to wear. Don’t try in vain, there are experienced hunters here.
      2. 0
        1 August 2020 13: 11
        Quote: Spade
        Are soldiers not killed “almost palpable” or not?

        Yes. He will receive both war and shame. It's a question of time.
        1. -1
          1 August 2020 15: 05
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Yes. He will receive both war and shame. It's a question of time.

          Isn't it easier to calm Armenia down? No war, no shame?
          1. -1
            1 August 2020 22: 46
            Say inappropriate things, and so the Armenian fox in bearskin retreated.
  11. +2
    31 July 2020 17: 36
    And in the end, this fact can be considered a strategic victory for Moscow in the Transcaucasus - Turkish troops will definitely leave the territory of Azerbaijan after the exercises
    ...Leave and leave military advisers..It’s not clear what the victory will be if the Turks leave anyway?
  12. +9
    31 July 2020 17: 45
    And what is the strategically won victory??? Everything is in their own interests, 100 pounds and nothing else... no one really wants a big Mochilovo. Where is the victory? Lantern header.
  13. +2
    31 July 2020 18: 08
    A neighbor's chicken was killed yesterday, and the arrogant Saxon apparently made his way to Siberia. Maybe we need to build normal relations with countries, and not with some Zimbabs.
    1. +1
      31 July 2020 19: 24
      Quote: Free Wind
      Maybe we need to build normal relationships

      Ask “what do you want” and repent, repent, repent?
      I’m afraid that this will not be enough for those who have designated themselves as “normal countries”; they will be asked to commit suicide.
    2. 0
      1 August 2020 13: 59
      Quote: Free Wind
      Maybe we need to build normal relations with countries, and not with some Zimbabs.

      And in general it’s impossible to live. No thanks, we already went through this in the 80s and 90s.
  14. 0
    31 July 2020 18: 11
    On a good note. Maneuvers in the regions and ex-republics should be the same. Russian-Azerov for example. Russian-Armenian, Russian-Uzbek, Russian-Ukrainian, Russian-Singapore... Well, etc. and so on.
  15. +5
    31 July 2020 18: 23
    Finally, we won everyone. Türkiye announces its intentions to invite Americans to study the S-400 complexes. Hello everyone.
  16. -4
    31 July 2020 18: 33
    Haftar needs to send troops to help Armenia. Then there will be victory.
  17. +3
    31 July 2020 20: 43
    HaHaHa. Such arguments can be used to justify anything, anywhere.
    The Turks entered - this is a victory for Moscow. The Turks did not enter - also a victory for Moscow.

    By the way, it’s true, there are a lot of articles, perhaps here, with conclusions exactly the opposite
    1. +2
      31 July 2020 21: 05
      The Turkish military visits Azerbaijan regularly. Last year they attended exercises - no one noticed. This is where we went - everything was lost, the Turks were seizing the Caucasus and pushing Russia back. Guard!

      Moscow’s victory here is that so far everything remains within the framework of local border clashes and has not escalated to a full-scale war. By the way, this is a victory not only for Moscow, but also for Ankara, Baku and even Yerevan. And there is no contradiction in this - a bad peace is almost always better than a good war.
      1. +2
        31 July 2020 21: 21
        Quote: Kuzmitsky
        Turkish military personnel visit Azerbaijan regularly

        I mentioned the “Budapest pacification” above...
        Safarov.
        He entered the military lyceum at the age of 15. A year later, in 92, he was sent to study in Turkey. Military lyceum, military school, internship in the Turkish Armed Forces. And he returned to his homeland to serve in 2001, that is, at the age of 24.

        Thanks to Yeltsin and his entourage, everything has been done to ensure that Azerbaijan enters Turkey’s orbit. Seriously and for a long time.
        1. +1
          31 July 2020 22: 32
          Quote: Spade
          Thanks to Yeltsin and his entourage, everything has been done to ensure that Azerbaijan enters Turkey’s orbit. Seriously and for a long time.

          Yes..You are right..This is the most important reason.
          1. 0
            1 August 2020 13: 28
            Quote: lonely
            Yes..You are right..This is the most important reason.

            So Yeltsin is the only one to blame? And those 293-odd million fools who allowed all this to happen through their inaction, or even outright support, have nothing to do with them? It is very easy to shift your responsibility for everything that happened to an individual.
            1. +1
              1 August 2020 14: 25
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Is Yeltsin alone to blame? And those 293-odd million fools who allowed all this to happen through their inaction, or even outright support, have nothing to do with it

              What does 293 million have to do with it, if we are talking about what happened after the collapse of the USSR? The conflict began under the USSR. and Yeltsin and his team are to blame for the fact that with their political actions in the Transcaucasus they lost a very promising ally. Yes, given the current realities, this ally in the region would definitely not hurt Russia
      2. 0
        1 August 2020 09: 07
        Everyone goes everywhere regularly.
        The question is in the details - quantity, business connections, money.

        They didn't start shooting big - victory.
        They started shooting - they will also write “Victory” - Armenia will tighten the screws and take money and weapons from Russia, military specialists - volunteers will gain experience.
        They will continue to shoot - there will also be “Victory” - they will establish a buffer zone, weapons will be sold, consumables will be sold, screws will be tightened, an external enemy will appear.
        If they stop, what a “victory!”

        Etc.
      3. 0
        1 August 2020 13: 18
        Quote: Kuzmitsky
        And there is no contradiction in this - a bad peace is almost always better than a good war.

        I would say a reprieve for a good war.
  18. -3
    31 July 2020 20: 59
    It’s just that Moscow is demonstrating something of its capabilities to Azerbaijan, which is not a member of the CSTO, namely the ability to beat enemies.
  19. +3
    31 July 2020 21: 26
    With this logic, one can see the victory of Moscow, Beijing, Washington in all situations...
  20. 0
    31 July 2020 21: 51
    DOSAAF is a voluntary society for assistance to Andropov, Aliyev, Fedorchuk. Dad didn’t finish watching... he relaxed...
  21. 0
    31 July 2020 22: 51
    Deja vu.
    “Whoever hinders us will help us.”
    “A very correct decision. Comrade Shurik, we need help: the bride has long dreamed of being kidnapped.”
  22. +2
    31 July 2020 23: 07
    Of course, if Erdogan were a Russian pre-retirement man, then we wouldn’t think twice about his knee, “Gripping!” - for the benefit of Russia. But that's not true. And so we have to once again put on a good face on a mediocre game. And we win our next “strategic victory.”
  23. 0
    31 July 2020 23: 17
    Turkish troops will definitely leave the territory of Azerbaijan after the exercises
    -
    the presence of Turkish troops and instructors in Azerbaijan has always been and will be, especially in the Nakhichevan region.
    As for the exercises, this is another demonstration of the influence and strength of the Turks in Transcaucasia... A step forward... and the “Turkish gambit”. Ankara has a well-founded (very carefully disguised ethno-political) intention for this - the Turan project.
    The military confrontation between Russia and the Ottoman Empire ended long ago, but this topic is still actively used in Russian political science. Turkey is still perceived as a country eager to become an empire and dominate, if not the entire former imperial space, then at least within the borders of states with a related Turkic culture.
    With the collapse of the USSR, Turkish politicians began to fulfill their long-standing dream of creating a new empire - New Turan, a unified state of all Turkic peoples from the Balkans to Siberia, which is gaining more and more supporters in Turkey. The issue of creating a unified state of all Turks is often and widely discussed in television programs and in Internet forums.
    Today, very often on the streets of Turkish cities you can meet young people with leaflets addressed to the Turkic peoples: “We appeal to all Turks who have lost their goal,” says one of them. - Having taken everything that was taken by force, we will restore justice! We, as one Turk, must be represented on the future map of the world!"
    You will ask, what does Turan have to do with it, the role of Russia and Armenia, or in general the interests of states in Transcaucasia....?
    I see there are enough strategists and analysts here, well then, gentlemen, analysts, reason.
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    5. -2
      1 August 2020 02: 04
      Another set of typical Armenian horror stories and fantasies about “terrible” plans about the mythical Turan with some whiff of denunciation, or something. Moreover, this is an inspired, aspirated Armenian whisper, abruptly turning into shouts of “guard,” only for the Russian audience. With their people on the forums they discuss how (help from the Russian army by default) captures Nakhichevan and almost half of Azerbaijan to the left bank of the Kura, their appetites are not bad) They don’t even mention this fabulous Turan.
      1. -1
        1 August 2020 12: 21
        This Ashot even put on the CSTO emblem laughing
        1. -3
          1 August 2020 13: 38
          It won't help him or you. Kill each other Nazis.
          1. -1
            1 August 2020 14: 00
            The saying is about nothing at all! I don't need anyone's help at all! But we won’t kill ourselves to spite you, we’ll figure it out ourselves wink
            1. 0
              1 August 2020 14: 03
              Quote: KURT330
              But we won’t kill ourselves to spite you, we’ll figure it out ourselves

              So figure it out. But remember, Azerbaijani Nazis, that if your showdowns contradict the interests of Russia, Azerbaijani interests will turn into a pumpkin.
              1. 0
                1 August 2020 14: 12
                Yah?! Only a pumpkin head would think that way. The cucumber is in your hands, go for it laughing
                1. 0
                  1 August 2020 14: 24
                  Quote: KURT330
                  Yah?! Only a pumpkin head would think that way. The cucumber is in your hands, go for it

                  You're really funny. The more you puff yourself up, the funnier it becomes. laughing Come on, jump and make me laugh, you great Turk.
                  1. -1
                    1 August 2020 14: 33
                    Funny.. Really? wink Laugh while you have time laughing
      2. 0
        1 August 2020 13: 37
        So you are suggesting that we proceed from the interests of the Azeri people? Have you completely lost your sights on aul geopolitoluks? laughing laughing
        1. -1
          1 August 2020 14: 04
          Just don't kill yourself wink It’s not worth it, sit in your outback and master Western technologies using the example of a computer, but have you already been connected to the Internet? Congratulations!
          1. +1
            1 August 2020 14: 07
            Quote: KURT330
            master Western technologies using a computer as an example, but have you already been connected to the Internet?

            Tell me about the Azerbaijani IT sector. What? There's no such thing? Sadness. All hope is for oil. After all, if it runs out, Azerbaijan has nothing to offer. You'll have to sell yourself into slavery. I'll buy you anyway. I promise not to spank too much.
            PS I have 100 MB Internet. Enough for now. Does your village at least have sewerage and running water?
            1. -1
              1 August 2020 14: 16
              First, buy yourself some pants and buy your wife some flowers for Valentine’s Day! wink
              If we can’t, we will help!
              1. +1
                1 August 2020 14: 18
                Quote: KURT330
                First, buy yourself some pants and buy your wife some flowers for Valentine’s Day!

                Is this the ultimate dream for a wild Turk? How low you fell after the destruction of the USSR. Well, it’s your own fault, this is your punishment for wild Russophobia and cave nationalism.
              2. 0
                1 August 2020 22: 55
                He's just another Armenian fox in bearskin :) Apparently, there's a plug in every hole.
      3. +1
        1 August 2020 19: 42
        Erdogan began to implement the “Red Project” - the creation of an empire (purely specifically).
    6. 0
      1 August 2020 13: 35
      Quote: ashot1973
      With the collapse of the USSR, Turkish politicians set out to fulfill their long-standing dream of creating a new empire - New Turan

      That there is nonsense and pure utopia. Especially now when the global economic crisis is gaining momentum.
  24. -5
    31 July 2020 23: 53
    As a result, it will end with the 12th Red Army entering Transcaucasia. He'll hit everyone in the neck. And he will establish his power. Don't talk too much. This is how it will be in the end.
    1. +1
      1 August 2020 00: 40
      As a result, it will end with the 12th Red Army entering Transcaucasia. He'll hit everyone in the neck. And he will establish his power. Don't talk too much. This is how it will be in the end.©
      Don't comment here again when you're dead drunk.
  25. 0
    1 August 2020 01: 10
    Moscow wins strategic victory in Transcaucasia
    Come on - our tanks have reached the line: Astara - Goradiz - Julfa - Yerevan???!!! wassat
  26. 0
    1 August 2020 01: 14
    Quote: paco.soto
    As a result, it will end with the 12th Red Army entering Transcaucasia. He'll hit everyone in the neck. And he will establish his power. Don't talk too much. This is how it will be in the end.©
    Don't comment here again when you're dead drunk.

    In the last century, the 11th Army was part of... . lol hi
    1. +1
      1 August 2020 02: 05
      This was the Last Century. This will no longer happen, the locals will not accept it (the ideology of Bolshevism-communism and its bearers are practically non-existent) and they will not allow it abroad. We must be friends, cooperate, like good neighbors. There will be fewer problems and hassles in this case, for everyone.
      1. 0
        1 August 2020 13: 41
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        This will no longer happen, the locals will not accept it (there are practically no ideologies of Bolshevism-communism and its bearers) and they will not allow it abroad.

        Well, you idiots have now fallen back into feudalism. good So win. laughing
  27. 0
    1 August 2020 02: 08
    Quote: Fon Elia
    As a result, it will end with the 12th Red Army entering Transcaucasia. He'll hit everyone in the neck. And he will establish his power. Don't talk too much. This is how it will be in the end.

    Last century was the 11th century, this century the 12th? good hi
  28. 0
    1 August 2020 02: 10
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    It was the Last Century. This won’t happen anymore, the locals won’t accept it...

    What kind of locals are those who have “business” in Moscow? winked
    1. -1
      1 August 2020 16: 55
      “those who have a “business” in Moscow?” They are already your locals, inside and out. Little will change their opinions in their homeland. If they don’t suit you, send them to their historical homeland. For 30 years, another generation has grown up in Azerbaijan, in a country without foreign bases and “governors”. It’s time to get used to the idea that we are your neighbors, and not your garden. It will be easier for both you and us. And when will you take off the general’s greatcoats and take care of your country. After all, you live to this day on the legacy of the USSR, you literally eat what’s left of it. Look around, look at the houses in which people live, look at the roads they drive on, look at ground and underground communications. On everything or The expiration date has expired, or is about to dry up. 95% of this is all left over from the USSR. And you “patriots” are still sending 11-12-13-18-36 armies to others. Why do you need this? Why? Will you really live better after that?
  29. -1
    1 August 2020 11: 35
    The title with the article doesn’t stick at all, and the last paragraph completely killed it laughing
  30. +1
    1 August 2020 12: 09
    Quote: Spade
    The United States and the European Union do not want to give Armenia guarantees that Karabakh and other occupied territories will remain its property.
    Therefore, Armenia simply has nowhere to go; Russia is the only guarantor of its security.

    Does Russia give such guarantees? You guarantee Armenia that Karabakh and other occupied territories will remain its property?))
    1. -1
      1 August 2020 13: 45
      Quote: KURT330
      Does Russia give such guarantees? Do you guarantee Armenia that Karabakh and other occupied territories will remain its property?))

      We guarantee that the Azeri people will get a slap in the face if they imagine themselves to be great warriors and try to organize a drang nach Karabach. laughing And no Türkiye will save you.
      1. 0
        1 August 2020 14: 08
        And in whose person? In your? Will you go build "Great Armenia?" laughing Who will receive it and from whom, only time will tell. So shut up and shut up wink
      2. 0
        1 August 2020 14: 34
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        We guarantee that

        Are you the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces?
        Why make such loud and stupid statements? Sitting on the sofa, feeling like a commander in chief is very amusing
  31. +1
    1 August 2020 14: 22
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    sympathize

    ....and learn to write correctly wink sympathetic hero laughing
  32. 0
    1 August 2020 17: 09
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    “those who have a “business” in Moscow?” They are already your locals, inside and out. Little will change their opinions in their homeland. If they don’t suit you, send them to their historical homeland. For 30 years, another generation has grown up in Azerbaijan, in a country without foreign bases and “governors”. It’s time to get used to the idea that we are your neighbors, and not your garden. It will be easier for both you and us. And when will you take off the general’s greatcoats and take care of your country. After all, you live to this day on the legacy of the USSR, you literally eat what’s left of it. Look around, look at the houses in which people live, look at the roads they drive on, look at ground and underground communications. On everything or The expiration date has expired, or is about to dry up. 95% of this is all left over from the USSR. And you “patriots” are still sending 11-12-13-18-36 armies to others. Why do you need this? Why? Will you really live better after that?

    I can agree on some things, but as for sending armies, tell that to your Turkish neighbors! lol
  33. 0
    1 August 2020 23: 50
    Neither Putin nor Erdogan are interested in sparking a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    The author forgets that there is a third party that desperately needs this conflict! And you don’t really need to do much, just a couple of sabotages in cities or on an oil pipeline and that’s it.............
  34. 0
    2 August 2020 02: 13
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    “those who have a “business” in Moscow?” They are already your locals, inside and out. Little will change their opinions in their homeland. If they don’t suit you, send them to their historical homeland. For 30 years, another generation has grown up in Azerbaijan, in a country without foreign bases and “governors”. It’s time to get used to the idea that we are your neighbors, and not your garden. It will be easier for both you and us. And when will you take off the general’s greatcoats and take care of your country. After all, you live to this day on the legacy of the USSR, you literally eat what’s left of it. Look around, look at the houses in which people live, look at the roads they drive on, look at ground and underground communications. On everything or The expiration date has expired, or is about to dry up. 95% of this is all left over from the USSR. And you “patriots” are still sending 11-12-13-18-36 armies to others. Why do you need this? Why? Will you really live better after that?

    I can agree on some things, but as for sending armies, tell that to your Turkish neighbors! lol

    Here I made a mistake - I forgot that you are a Turk, especially since you understand the considerations of the Russian Federation. Would you like to consider the 21st year contract? I look forward to your answer. hi

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