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The State Duma proposed to start officially supplying weapons to Donbass

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The State Duma proposed to start officially supplying weapons to Donbass

The increase in US military aid to Ukraine to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start deliveries weapons to Donbass. This opinion was expressed by Leonid Kalashnikov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots.


According to Kalashnikov, Washington's plans to increase military aid to Kiev, including the acquisition of lethal weapons, make Russia think about protecting those people against whom these weapons may be directed. In such conditions, the United States gives Russia the right to officially supply weapons and equipment to the people's republics of Donbass.

I believe that the allocation of $ 300 million in the United States for military assistance to Ukraine, on the contrary, opens the door for us to help people at whom they want to shoot with this weapon - the DPR and LPR. If any of the parties, a country supplies weapons, all the more lethal, we have no choice but to protect these people, maybe not with troops, but at least with the supply of weapons. And close this topic - do not hesitate to supply weapons to the DPR and LPR

- he said.

Let us recall that a group of US senators proposed for consideration a bill providing for the allocation of $ 300 million to Ukraine annually, including for lethal weapons.

This bill demonstrates to Ukraine and Russia that the United States will support its friend throughout the democratic transition and protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This bill will strengthen Ukraine's defenses through military training and equipment, as well as strengthen diplomatic support from the United States and Europe.

- stated in the US Senate.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 31 July 2020 11: 35 New
    27
    The increase in US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start supplying weapons to Donbass. This opinion was expressed by Leonid Kalashnikov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots.
    ... It is logical ...
    1. apro
      apro 31 July 2020 11: 55 New
      -86
      Quote: parusnik
      ... It is logical ...

      Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 31 July 2020 12: 00 New
        59
        Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?

        It was Ukraine that declared war on Russia .. only Russia did not appear in the war.
        1. apro
          apro 31 July 2020 12: 01 New
          -67
          Quote: The same Lech
          It was Ukraine that declared war on Russia .. only Russia did not appear in the war.

          Officially???
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 31 July 2020 12: 03 New
            40
            So Russia did not officially declare war on Ukraine ... smile What is the problem then?
            1. apro
              apro 31 July 2020 12: 05 New
              -47
              Quote: The same Lech
              So Russia did not officially declare war on Ukraine ... smile What is the problem then?

              And thank God....
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 31 July 2020 12: 06 New
                10
                And thank God....

                And thank God...hi
              2. Phoenix040
                Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 20 New
                +8
                In other words, the genocide of the Russian people, which Ukraine arranged, its participation in the wars against the Russian Federation in the Caucasus is not a problem for you, but the war with Ukraine is a problem. Can you change your flag and citizenship with your love for a foreign country suffering from Russophobia ?!
                1. apro
                  apro 1 August 2020 05: 52 New
                  -7
                  Quote: Phoenix040
                  In other words, the genocide of the Russian people,

                  It's a good phrase. But if you consider Ukraine a hostile state. Then declare war on it and forward to Kiev ... or is there something wrong? This idiot has been going on for 6 years already and there is no end in sight.
                  Quote: Phoenix040
                  Can you change your flag

                  Soviet suits me ...
          2. Vladimir61
            Vladimir61 31 July 2020 12: 24 New
            16
            Quote: apro
            Officially???

            Have you read the official statements of the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Turchinov and Poroshenko, who later became a president, in 2014? Maybe you haven't read the statements of the Chairmen of the Verkhovna Rada, ministers, representatives of the administration and others? One thing is significant, either you weren't born yet, or you don't know who the officials are!
          3. 72jora72
            72jora72 31 July 2020 13: 39 New
            13
            Officially???
            Yes, Russia is officially declared an aggressor country.
        2. Vilensky
          Vilensky 31 July 2020 14: 29 New
          10
          It was Ukraine that declared war on Russia .. only Russia did not appear in the war.

          Why not? Let me disagree, as Kisa Vorobyaninov used to say. Ukrainians declared that they had been at war with Russia for 6 years, then they added that let only Russia attack, we would show her. ... ...
          It's like from an anecdote about women, in which two incompatible things coexist perfectly: a short girl's memory and I will never forget it.
          tongue
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 31 July 2020 12: 08 New
        +5
        I am sure Russia has been supplying weapons for a long time. Now he can do it legally.
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 31 July 2020 14: 21 New
          -1
          Quote: Alex Justice
          I am sure Russia has been supplying weapons for a long time. Now he can do it legally.

          It won't work legally. The Americans will supply weapons to a country that is a member of the UN, and the LPNR is generally not recognized by anyone. So in order to supply them with weapons, the LDNR will need to be recognized as an international object of law. Otherwise: "Support for separatism in a foreign country and more sanctions, this time from the UN." Therefore, as before, miners will have to find what they need in the "mines". Well, or brought in by the North Wind.
          1. mig29mks
            mig29mks 1 August 2020 06: 03 New
            +3
            Let the UN and then the United States recognize the sponsor of the separatists in Syria !!!
      3. Yura
        Yura 31 July 2020 12: 11 New
        14
        Why, on the contrary, Russia, in solidarity with the United States, will also provide assistance to Ukraine, after all, the Republic for the whole world and the United States including this is Ukraine, isn't it? Casuistry? Yes! But formally authentic.
        1. apro
          apro 31 July 2020 12: 17 New
          -28
          Quote: Jura
          But formally authentic.

          Formally ... Russia recognized the territorial integrity of Ukraine, recognized all the governments of Ukraine, entered into agreements with Ukraine ... declared not to interfere in internal Ukrainian affairs ...
          1. Yura
            Yura 31 July 2020 12: 21 New
            +8
            Quote: apro
            Quote: Jura
            But formally authentic.

            Formally ... Russia recognized the territorial integrity of Ukraine, recognized all the governments of Ukraine, entered into agreements with Ukraine ... declared not to interfere in internal Ukrainian affairs ...

            So Russia recognizes this integrity and does not interfere, where did you get the idea that this is not so?
            1. apro
              apro 31 July 2020 12: 26 New
              -27
              Quote: Jura
              So Russia recognizes this integrity and does not interfere, where did you get the idea that this is not so?

              I believe as myself ... of course you are right.
              1. Yura
                Yura 31 July 2020 12: 29 New
                +4
                Quote: apro
                I believe as myself ... of course you are right.

                Well, you see, we understood each other, by the way, I believe exactly the same as you.)))
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 31 July 2020 12: 29 New
            14
            Quote: apro

            Formally ... Russia recognized the territorial integrity of Ukraine, recognized all the governments of Ukraine, entered into agreements with Ukraine ... declared not to interfere in internal Ukrainian affairs ...
            apro forget the formality. Formality has lost its relevance after the promise of humpback about the non-proliferation of NATO's breadth!
          3. Phoenix040
            Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 27 New
            +3
            All this was done with reservations. 1) Ukraine is a neutral state ... Ukraine, even under Yushchenko, gathered in NATO, violating the agreement with the Russian Federation. 2) Ukraine entered into a friendship treaty with the Russian Federation ... In fact, Ukraine did not even betray to Russia the thieves who fled to Ukraine with the stolen goods from the Russian Federation, let alone the gangs of Korchinsky, Bobrovich, Mazur and the like who fought against the Russian Federation in Chechnya .. For the war against the Russian Federation in Ossetia, in 2008, the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine even received apartments from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. So Russia does not owe anything else, neither to you, nor to Ukraine, nor to your Bandera relatives.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 31 July 2020 12: 22 New
        10
        Quote: apro
        Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?

        And in your opinion, if the United States provides military assistance to Ukraine, is it not the states' declaration of war on Russia?
        1. apro
          apro 31 July 2020 12: 27 New
          -27
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And in your opinion, if the United States provides military assistance to Ukraine, is it not the states' declaration of war on Russia?

          Is Ukraine in a state of war with Russia? Or sga?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 31 July 2020 12: 56 New
            15
            Quote: apro
            Is Ukraine at war with Russia?

            Russia is not at war with Ukraine, and it has the right to provide military assistance to anyone it wants, just like the United States. Or do you think differently?
            1. Kisa
              Kisa 31 July 2020 18: 19 New
              -4
              how do you like the example of Syria? we knock on the chest and have the right to this that Assad is our legally elected friend and we are there officially and everyone else is outlaw ... in Ukraine, Zelya, legally recognized by us, also legally uses the official assistance of the States ...
              here whoever has a broader harya is a peacemaker
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 31 July 2020 20: 38 New
                +2
                Quote: kitty
                in Ukraine, Zelya, legally recognized by us, also legally uses the official assistance of the States.

                Excuse me, but that Russia has recognized the illegal supply of weapons to Ukraine by the states, let alone financial assistance? Likewise, the proposal of the State Duma is legal. I do not understand what your claims to Russia are.
                1. Kisa
                  Kisa 31 July 2020 21: 39 New
                  -1
                  So, again, using the example of Syria, the Turks lupasat the Kurds, the Americans occupied the oil derricks - ours showed them to be legally located, but they all gave up on it. the same Bole less mirrored example with Ukraine-an official proposal to the officially recognized government within the UN ..... What will the State Duma officially present there ??? ... the concept of legality is probably better not to use it ...
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 3 August 2020 00: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: kitty
                    ours presented on the legality of their finding, but they all scored on it. the same less mirrored example with Ukraine - an official proposal to the officially recognized government within the UN

                    you yourself are not confused? If it is mirror-like in Syria, then Russia should have been arming the republics for a long time, isn't it? The US is arming the "moderate opposition". by the way, this happened even before Russia's intervention in the conflict in Syria.
                    What do you want to say? that the United States has the right to provide military support to anyone though, but Russia does not? for good reason, we have the right to send troops there, well, if it's a mirror with Syria ...
                    1. Kisa
                      Kisa 3 August 2020 00: 18 New
                      +1
                      I'm sorry if it's not clear. all that I wanted to say in current international affairs, the concept of legality must be erased from everyday life. that the states in Syria, that the Russian Federation in Ukraine is outside the UN regulations, but everyone has scored on this
          2. gurzuf
            gurzuf 31 July 2020 14: 15 New
            +3
            I think you should be concerned about the behavior of the blacks with your ally. After all, this directly concerns you.
            1. apro
              apro 31 July 2020 14: 18 New
              -16
              Quote: gurzuf
              I think you should be concerned about the behavior of the blacks with your ally. After all, this directly concerns you.

              You don’t need to tell me what to do, and I won’t tell you where to go ...
              1. gurzuf
                gurzuf 31 July 2020 14: 21 New
                +6
                This is said by a character who knocks on the keyboard for half a day and discusses who and how to live and what to do. laughing I, personally, have already decided where to go ... and with incredible speed hi
      5. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 31 July 2020 13: 21 New
        +7
        Is the US declaring war on Syria? Libya? By supplying weapons to warring parties in these countries? And Iraq? Yugoslavia? After participating in World War II, the United States at least once declared war officially? Gopniks on a global scale do not bother with such a trifle.
      6. Junior Private
        Junior Private 31 July 2020 13: 55 New
        +5
        Russia's supply of arms to countries means a declaration of war against whom are these countries armed? Then, according to your logic, Russia is "at war" with many.
        1. apro
          apro 31 July 2020 14: 21 New
          -11
          Quote: Junior Private
          Then, according to your logic, Russia is "at war" with many.

          Have you read a respected article? The provision of official military assistance to illegal military formations leading military operations with a legitimate government.
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 31 July 2020 14: 43 New
            +1
            Read your answer to the very first post. Military aid = declaration of war?
            1. apro
              apro 31 July 2020 14: 54 New
              -13
              And what confuses you? This is a reason for war ... direct.
              1. Phoenix040
                Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 33 New
                +2
                And as for me, Tymoshenko's statement that Russians should be killed with an atomic bomb is quite enough rudeness to take the toughest measures from the Russian Federation against the mad Bandera dog.
      7. Prisoner
        Prisoner 31 July 2020 14: 43 New
        +2
        And why are they at war for six years, fighting with Russia, and only get bruises from each other? Maybe it's time to come to this six-year war, at least to see what?
        1. apro
          apro 31 July 2020 14: 45 New
          -16
          Once again, Ukraine has declared war on Russia? This is an internal affair of Ukraine.
          1. Phoenix040
            Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 35 New
            +1
            And if Russia begins to press in the Russian Federation non-indigenous population of the Russian Federation at the governmental level, is this an internal affair of the Russian Federation, or will you start whining ?!
      8. Berg berg
        Berg berg 31 July 2020 17: 25 New
        +4
        It is high time to equip the LDNR, until when will we ignore those who love and respect us and fawn on those who do not respect and spit in our back!
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 31 July 2020 18: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Berg Berg
          It is high time to equip the LDNR, until when will we ignore those who love and respect us and fawn on those who do not respect and spit in our back!

          And not only the LDNR needs to be equipped and armed. It would not be bad to add something substantial to Venezuela and Cuba, so that the mattresses have more buzz.
      9. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 July 2020 18: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: apro
        Quote: parusnik
        ... It is logical ...

        Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?

        It is the United States that wants the war in Ukraine to continue indefinitely.
      10. Skif
        Skif 31 July 2020 20: 22 New
        0
        Oops ... You're already at war with us. Or not?
      11. Ether
        Ether 31 July 2020 20: 47 New
        0
        So the Ukrainians have allegedly been at war with Russia for a long time.
      12. NEXUS
        NEXUS 31 July 2020 23: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: apro
        Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?

        Is it okay that since the time of Yushchenko, all the heads of Ukraine have declared that they are at war with the Russian Federation?
      13. BecmepH
        BecmepH 1 August 2020 18: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: apro
        Quote: parusnik
        ... It is logical ...

        Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?

        Nope. Russia is helping Ukraine)) Why are we worse than ov ?. After all, legally Donbass-Ukraine! Is not it? Therefore, we do not stay away from good deeds
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 1 August 2020 18: 53 New
          0
          Quote: BecmepH
          Nope. Russia is helping Ukraine)) Why are we worse than ov ?. After all, legally Donbass-Ukraine! Is not it? Therefore, we do not stay away from good deeds

          And you, by the way, are flirting in vain, the Russian Federation supplies a lot of goods and products to / to Ukraine, as it receives from it, the trade turnover is called, there are also many common interests in the financial and banking spheres, and how closely the oligarchs and law enforcement agencies of both countries are connected (many security officials graduated from the same schools) and needless to say.
          A simple example, the ammonia pipeline (ammonia pipeline) connects Togliatti and Odessa and no one on the territory of Ukraine touches it, and the oligarchs are getting richer.
          And "kaklys'elisnegirey" is for the plebs on both sides of the border.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 1 August 2020 19: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: BecmepH
            Nope. Russia is helping Ukraine)) Why are we worse than ov ?. After all, legally Donbass-Ukraine! Is not it? Therefore, we do not stay away from good deeds

            And you, by the way, are flirting in vain, the Russian Federation supplies a lot of goods and products to / to Ukraine, as it receives from it, the trade turnover is called, there are also many common interests in the financial and banking spheres, and how closely the oligarchs and law enforcement agencies of both countries are connected (many security officials graduated from the same schools) and needless to say.
            A simple example, the ammonia pipeline (ammonia pipeline) connects Togliatti and Odessa and no one on the territory of Ukraine touches it, and the oligarchs are getting richer.
            And "kaklys'elisnegirey" is for the plebs on both sides of the border.

            The topic is different, so ... I'll give you a bunch of similar examples, but the conversation about help of a different kind. We will help as the United States helps. Why are we worse?)))
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 31 July 2020 12: 04 New
      -19
      And then this weapon will rush back across the border of the Russian Federation)
      1. major147
        major147 31 July 2020 12: 19 New
        +7
        Quote: Clever man
        And then this weapon will rush back across the border of the Russian Federation)

        That you apparently do not visit the LPNR. I visit periodically (before the virus). Your fears are unfounded.
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 31 July 2020 12: 23 New
        +6
        It can pour from Ukraine, and this is more likely than from the DPR or LPR, where weapons are needed to deter the enemy in the first place. Ukraine has dozens of times more weapons.
      3. Prisoner
        Prisoner 31 July 2020 14: 43 New
        0
        You do not confuse the militia with the Banderva.
    3. Vita vko
      Vita vko 31 July 2020 12: 17 New
      15
      Quote: parusnik
      .Logically ...

      First, you need to determine the borders of the DPR and LPR, then recognize their independence and only after that take measures to provide military technical assistance. Then it will be logical. And even more logical would be the recognition of the Communist Party in the person of Kalashnikov about the mistake of Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev in the annexation of the primordially Russian lands to Ukraine. Moreover, the presence of these territories contradicts the Ukrainian law "On decommunization".
      1. apro
        apro 31 July 2020 13: 07 New
        -19
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Then it will be logical.

        It would be logical for the Russians then. When they officially declare not recognizing the state of Ukraine. About territorial claims for the entire territory of Ukraine. And stop poking red. They created the USSR. And now you have the Russians an opportunity to create your own Russia ... what are we waiting for ?? ?
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 31 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +2
      so they remembered about the IVS: "do not give in to provocations."
      What is considered a provocation? How will the wise in the 21st century react to an attempt to drag Russia into TRMV?
    5. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 31 July 2020 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      The increase in US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start supplying weapons to Donbass. This opinion was expressed by Leonid Kalashnikov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots.
      ... It is logical ...

      The increase in US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start supplying weapons to Donbass. as a Russian territory of advanced development ... belay
      Generally lethal ...
    6. demo
      demo 1 August 2020 21: 28 New
      0
      Logically, then yes!
      But I'm afraid the Kremlin will not make such a step officially.
  2. Well
    Well done 31 July 2020 11: 36 New
    +2
    You said correctly. His surname matches the words)
  3. Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 31 July 2020 11: 38 New
    -37
    The increase in US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start supplying weapons to Donbass.

    Where is this right spelled out?
    One country is helping another country. What does Russia have to do with it?

    it opens doors for us in order to help people at whom they want to shoot with this weapon - the DPR and LPR.

    Well yes. After all, Ukraine needs weapons only to shoot at the DPR and LPR. Ukraine has no border in the north and in the west. There are no army units in the center of the country. No police.
    1. Flamberg
      Flamberg 31 July 2020 11: 40 New
      10
      Well, you don't have to be a genius to understand why this money is allocated.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 31 July 2020 11: 44 New
      +5
      it is not spelled out, but since someone is equipping one side, why not equip the other in opposition? especially the one in which the civilian population is ironed?
    3. 210ox
      210ox 31 July 2020 11: 46 New
      +4
      Isn't it an option to do it yourself? Or does Zarathustra not allow?
      1. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 31 July 2020 13: 26 New
        +1
        Research by British scientists has shown that the Sumerian sling does not work against a tank.
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 31 July 2020 11: 53 New
      13
      Simon Schempp, when you learn to think, come to our light, let's talk ...
      P.S. but apparently it was not in vain that the Pentagon recruited a group of Russian-speaking ...
      1. seti
        seti 31 July 2020 13: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: sabakina
        Simon Schempp, when you learn to think, come to our light, let's talk ...
        P.S. but apparently it was not in vain that the Pentagon recruited a group of Russian-speaking ...

        It's just a pity our moderators do not ban their accounts forever.
    5. Same lech
      Same lech 31 July 2020 12: 02 New
      17
      Where is this right spelled out?

      The United States declared Guaido President of Venezula smile ... and where was this right registered?
    6. evgen1221
      evgen1221 31 July 2020 12: 02 New
      +6
      And in Donbass you don't have all of the above? - the police, the army, violent neighbors?)))
    7. major147
      major147 31 July 2020 12: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      The increase in US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million gives Russia the right to start supplying weapons to Donbass.

      Where is this right spelled out?
      One country is helping another country. What does Russia have to do with it?

      it opens doors for us in order to help people at whom they want to shoot with this weapon - the DPR and LPR.

      Well yes. After all, Ukraine needs weapons only to shoot at the DPR and LPR. Ukraine has no border in the north and in the west. There are no army units in the center of the country. No police.

      And who said that Russian weapons will be used against Ukraine? Exclusively for self-defense against aggressors, whoever they are ...
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 31 July 2020 11: 38 New
    16
    It is worth recognizing the independence of Donbass and they do not need any weapons.
  5. Dizel200
    Dizel200 31 July 2020 11: 40 New
    0
    hmmm))) "sensible" thinking))) long thought interesting or is it just emotions?
    1. dauria
      dauria 31 July 2020 11: 50 New
      -7
      hmmm))) "sensible" thought)))

      These are the "lawyers" we have in the Duma. Laws are passed. Whole committee chairman. Internationalist. "Dom-2" is resting.
      1. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 31 July 2020 13: 35 New
        +2
        Eeee ... Probably you should have been appointed minister? a consultant? by whom? You will look at VO: there are a lot of spisialists in rocketry, in politics, in economics, in special operations, in obstetrics and gynecology ... In everything ... How are such nuggets, the brain and conscience of a nation and not in the government ?! Oh yes ... we have everything is corrupt and there are no social elevators. Do not think that people are more stupid than a diesel locomotive in specialized departments. Will work. We will see the result.
        1. Mikhail Tynda
          Mikhail Tynda 31 July 2020 13: 44 New
          +1
          Yes. And another request. Bet - or + justify your decision. Maybe you are correct and I am not.
        2. RMT
          RMT 31 July 2020 15: 23 New
          +1
          There is no obstetrics, there is obstetrics. And among the Russian people there are many talented nuggets, and the conscience of the nation is not only in the government, believe me.
  6. Flamberg
    Flamberg 31 July 2020 11: 42 New
    -4
    Increase of US military aid to Ukraine up to $ 300 million

    Well, they will send, with this money, a bunch of instructors who will teach the Armed Forces of Ukraine to march on the NATO model. wassat
  7. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 31 July 2020 11: 46 New
    0
    It has long been necessary to do this.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 July 2020 11: 48 New
    0
    No, I really would not put the question bluntly about the recognition of the DPR and LPR. Why then are we distributing Russian passports? Post the biography of L. Kalashnikov, it will be very interesting.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 31 July 2020 12: 05 New
      -6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      .Why, then, are we distributing Russian passports?

      In order to improve the demography in Russia. What's not clear then ... ??
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 31 July 2020 12: 13 New
      +4
      Why then we are distributing Russian passports

      I think for the critical mass. When the majority becomes Russians, Russia will take the next major step to reclaim the primordially Russian lands with the Russian population.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 31 July 2020 12: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Alex Justice
        I think for the critical mass. When will the majority become Russians

        And you can understand who is who in the Donbass republics.
  9. Ilshat
    Ilshat 31 July 2020 11: 50 New
    -3
    And before that, they did not supply ?!
    How did they fight off the kaklov then?
    And the aggravation in Donbass, I think, is not the right time now - Syria.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 31 July 2020 12: 30 New
      0
      A mobilization reserves from the USSR were not there in your opinion? And what did we fight with if we didn't supply them too?
      Until the official confirmation is not only guesswork or enemy propaganda.
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 31 July 2020 12: 33 New
        -3
        "In 2017, the Russia 1 TV channel compared the military potential of the DPR and Ukraine.
        From the given data, it turned out that the DPR army has more than 700 tanks at its disposal, which is almost three times more than in the Ukrainian armed forces. "- reasonable enough.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 31 July 2020 12: 38 New
          0
          Why 700 and not 7000?
          These are figures from Ukrainian propaganda, I have heard them before. Now, if it was officially announced in the DPR, then maybe yes.
          1. Ilshat
            Ilshat 31 July 2020 12: 42 New
            -3
            Nu-nu, the Russian TV channel is chasing ukropropaganda ...
            You forget that the people who have been there are a wagon and a small cart.
            And they do not hold back their tongues.
            Even in the park, one of us spoke, campaigned ...
            No statements are needed.
            And so everyone knows.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 31 July 2020 13: 02 New
              0
              And why do you think that this TV channel cannot drive American propaganda ????
              All TV channels live on money from advertising, advertising is a business.
              The business is 99% Western
              The state does not have the right to censorship in Russia, there are not many levers of pressure and they are weaker than those of business. The one who pays and calls the tune, folk wisdom.
              1. Ilshat
                Ilshat 31 July 2020 13: 06 New
                -4
                I think because the channels are silent about Khabarovsk.
                Hot topic.
                They are controlled and distribute only and exclusively what is approved by the authorities.
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 31 July 2020 13: 27 New
                  0
                  What are the levers of pressure on TV channels in power? TV channels depend on advertisers and their money, not the country's leadership. Information now flows very well from the Internet. If federal channels distort information or do not finish speaking, people cannot fail to notice. This is part of the information work aimed at discrediting the authorities and the growth of protest moods in society.
                  1. Ilshat
                    Ilshat 31 July 2020 13: 33 New
                    -2
                    I don’t know what levers are, and I don’t care about it, I don’t work on the channel.
                    I notice the result perfectly - the current infa is hushed up, but the adventures of a foul prezik are everywhere ...
                    It's just what it is.
                    No discrediting, but constantly boasting and praising those in power.
                    1. Herman 4223
                      Herman 4223 31 July 2020 13: 46 New
                      0
                      Showy exaltation of a person when everyone knows that everything in the country is ruined and everyone knows about it? Yes, they show you who is to blame and who needs to be blamed.
                      1. Ilshat
                        Ilshat 31 July 2020 13: 50 New
                        -1
                        Possible.
                        There is such a non-zero probability ...
                        But, I suppose - one should not explain by a conspiracy what is explained without it - they are praised because it is so ordered.
                      2. Herman 4223
                        Herman 4223 31 July 2020 14: 00 New
                        0
                        Well, who is this great overlord, and why can't he command popular bloggers from YouTube, for example? After all, what is easier, to block information, people do not recognize inappropriate news and think that they live the best in the world. Do not tell the person that he lives in the well .., he does not even guess. But something is wrong in this life.
                      3. Ilshat
                        Ilshat 31 July 2020 14: 03 New
                        -1
                        Because bloggers do not have a legal entity, but the TV channel does!
                      4. Herman 4223
                        Herman 4223 31 July 2020 14: 12 New
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                        Well, this explains a lot, of course, TV channels are often engaged in financial fraud, drug trafficking, and so on according to the list of illegal actions. They can all be imprisoned for this, and a legal entity can be declared illegal.
  • Glenni
    Glenni 31 July 2020 11: 55 New
    -9
    What other right? The shores are completely beguiled!
  • Courier
    Courier 31 July 2020 11: 56 New
    -11
    It will not happen. Russia is not the United States.
    And then, officially, how is it? Then the independence of the LDNR will have to be recognized.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 31 July 2020 12: 15 New
      +2
      America openly supplied weapons to the rebels, the Taliban, and no one condemned it.
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 31 July 2020 12: 05 New
    +2
    The United States gives Russia the right to officially supply weapons and equipment to the people's republics of Donbass.

    ??
    The author started talking? Or did you sleep badly at night?
  • HAM
    HAM 31 July 2020 12: 10 New
    +2
    Withdrawal from the negotiations of the "Normandy Four" (tired of chattering), the proposal to supply OFFICIALLY weapons - links of the same chain, I believe, not far before recognition ...
  • ultra
    ultra 31 July 2020 12: 16 New
    +1
    To begin with, it is necessary to withdraw from all negotiations on the conflict in Donbass, to recognize the LDNR as independent states within the boundaries of these regions within Ukraine, and to conclude agreements on mutual assistance with them.
  • yfast
    yfast 31 July 2020 12: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: apro
    Russia wants to declare war on Ukraine?
    US wants to declare war on DNR?
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  • iouris
    iouris 31 July 2020 12: 55 New
    0
    Either the question should be posed radically, or there is no sense in demonstrating the inability to resolve the issue radically.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 July 2020 12: 56 New
    0
    It would be nice to throw the "toes" of the VSN.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 July 2020 13: 09 New
    -2
    Take an example from Turkey. We set up the bases and did not ask anyone. And we chew snot. And there would be no shelling.
  • Lebed
    Lebed 31 July 2020 13: 39 New
    13
    If deliveries begin, then Ukraine will go whimpering again to USA UN
  • megadeth
    megadeth 31 July 2020 14: 26 New
    +2
    It is high time to supply both weapons and foodstuffs to the DPR and LPR, and it would be better to be admitted to Russia. But the deputies of the United Russia in the State Duma will be against it, they have no opinion or are afraid to express it. Because if one of the United Russia deputies expresses his point of view, and God forbid, publicly, that does not coincide with the party's line, then his entire deputy will end ... And then the beggarly old age in oblivion. The ruble is collapsing, and inflation of 0% is for you pensioners so that your pension is not indexed ... Glory to the EP! I'll go re-read the results of the 17th United Russia Congress ... and cry!
  • Dikson
    Dikson 31 July 2020 14: 31 New
    -1
    .. "We can't come to an agreement - let them kill each other .." - the title of this article can be translated this way .. The chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs admitted that it was impossible to resolve the issue peacefully. But of course, we will continue to sell gas, oil, etc. to Ukraine .. money is not people ..
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 31 July 2020 14: 43 New
    0
    The decision to supply weapons or not depends on the amount of Ukraine's military contracts, or does it depend on the fact of the death of Donbass residents? However...
  • sav
    sav 31 July 2020 15: 22 New
    13
    Recently, the United States approved an increase in military aid to Ukraine. Here is the answer.
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 31 July 2020 16: 27 New
    +1
    According to Kalashnikov, Washington's plans to increase military aid to Kiev, including the acquisition of lethal weapons, make Russia THINK

    What is there to think. The decision must be made. The sooner the better. soldier
  • And Makarov
    And Makarov 31 July 2020 17: 49 New
    14
    Such a step has been asking for a long time.
    1. iouris
      iouris 31 July 2020 23: 00 New
      0
      Yah? And offer to hold a referendum in five or six months.
      What do you mean "officially"? Deliver for money through gasket firms?
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 1 August 2020 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Berg Berg
    It is high time to equip the LDNR

    Yes? And what do you propose to deliver? Do not hesitate - your detailed plan can be seen.