The West comments on the most massive rally of the Belarusian opposition in Minsk

The largest campaign rally in support of the candidate for the presidency of Belarus Svetlana Tikhanovskaya was held in Minsk. The action was carried out with enhanced security measures.

The Belarusian opposition reports about the "most massive action" held in the Friendship of Peoples Park on Bangalore Square. Data on the number of participants differ, according to the most "modest" estimates, the action gathered 34 thousand participants, human rights activists say about 63 thousand Belarusians who came to the rally. Earlier, the organizers of the action announced their intention to "collect 75 thousand people."

Reportedly, the Belarusian authorities nevertheless fulfilled their threat by turning off the mobile Internet at the place of the rally.

Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, a candidate for the presidency of Belarus, speaking at the rally, emphasized that she is going to the presidency for the sake of her husband and Belarusians and her main goals are the release of political prisoners, the holding of new fair elections and a referendum on returning to the 1994 Constitution.

She summoned the incumbent President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to a one-on-one debate.

The action began at 18:00 and ended at 22:00, no violations were recorded, the meeting was held peacefully. The last unauthorized mass protests took place in the cities of Belarus on July 14 after the decision of the Central Election Commission of the republic to deny registration as presidential candidates to two politicians: ex-head of Belgazprombank Viktor Babariko and ex-head of the Hi-Tech Park administration Valery Tsepkalo. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus, all the protests were initiated from abroad.

The West gives different comments on the situation in Belarus before the presidential elections, although the main topics of publications are still "Lukashenka's dictatorship" and "non-free elections." According to many analysts, Lukashenka will not let other candidates win the presidential elections, somehow removing them from the list of candidates.

According to the Spanish newspaper El País, today the last "serious" opponent of the incumbent President Lukashenko is Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, a "simple housewife" supported by Veronica Tsepkalo and Maria Kolesnikova, the head of the campaign of former banker Viktor Babariko. It is this "trio" that can still "raise the people of Belarus", the rest of the candidates will not compete with the head of the republic.

The German media note that "the mass character of the rally in Minsk is Lukashenka's signal."

Recall that the presidential elections in Belarus are scheduled for August 9, 2020.

Comments

[Maki maki]

They have their own "Swamp"

[Nasrat]

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

for elections:
I'll bet on Grigorich to win!
(Bets are accepted in writing in a personal)

We live in a fun time! The people are busy! - he argues, goes to rallies, elections, Internet fighters strangle each other in their arms ... But before, as it was - they discussed in the kitchen and that's it! There was boredom, now the people take the most direct part in the government !!!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nasr

And before, as it was - discussed in the kitchen and that's it! There was boredom, now the people take the most direct part in the government !!!

Passing sarcasm.

[kepmor]

putting on an onion is like putting on a ride in a train compartment ... the result is known in advance ...

[Senka naughty]

Quote: kepmor

putting on an onion is like putting on a ride in a train compartment ... the result is known in advance ...

Everything is good, you have to bet on a woman without a brain and a backbone, because a lot of people were driven onto her for grandmothers ..

[gost2012]

Quote: Senka Naughty

Quote: kepmor

putting on an onion is like putting on a ride in a train compartment ... the result is known in advance ...

Everything is good, you have to bet on a woman without a brain and a backbone, because a lot of people were driven onto her for grandmothers ..

This woman has a lot more brain and spine than you. About "for grandmothers drove" - ​​a dirty sketch, and you have no idea at all under what pressure it works, and as people, very different people, are tired of the AHL and want to change the government.

[pytar]

I'll bet on Grigorich to win!

This will be a feast "victory"! The beginning of the end of Grigorich ...

[musorg]

No, you can't wait for its long end!

[pytar]

Well, judging by the convulsions and his throwing, the symptoms are very obvious! It is unclear exactly how long it is suffering to continue ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: pytar

Well, judging by the convulsions and his throwing, the symptoms are very obvious! It is only unclear how long it is suffering to continue.

Convulsions are precisely what drives the brains (if any) of Lukashenka's opponents.
Declare

Reportedly, the Belarusian authorities nevertheless fulfilled their threat by turning off the mobile Internet at the place of the rally.

can only those who do not understand that when tens of thousands of people are concentrated on an area, many of whom want to broadcast something from their devices online, any network will "fall". When necessary, mobile BSs from telecom operators or the military are adjusted for such events. Have any of the "advanced" organizers of the rallies applied for a temporary strengthening of communication channels? Maybe he filed it and was refused? Or did they deliberately not filed, hoping to later be accused of jamming?
Based on the "IT-ness" of the protest crowd, only the last option is held.

[Naive]

None of the protesters spoke about jamming the Internet this time. On the contrary, they gave instructions to translate phones into avia mode!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Naive

None of the protesters spoke about jamming the Internet this time. On the contrary, they gave instructions to translate phones into avia mode!

Ok. "+" for the info.
Now it's worth (and the opposition too) to figure out who is throwing misinformation and why.

[demo]

Boyan, hi.
Alive-healthy?
I hope everything is ok with you !?
I will answer you, but it is the same for everyone.

Several years ago, I was on a long business trip in Minsk.
I came for a reason, but at the invitation of one very well-known Belarusian firm - Triple.
Its owner, Yura Chizh, was close to Luka at that moment.
The meaning of his main activity was as follows.
From the Russian Federation to the Republic of Belarus, oil is supplied to two refineries Mozyr and Novopolotsk.
There, oil products are obtained from it.
But according to the documents, it is not gasoline that comes out, but an oil solvent.
If you write that they made gasoline, then you have to pay extra after the sale of the Russian Federation.
And so everything is beautiful.

Then this oil solvent is sent to the Baltic States at a reduced customs rate.
Where it is compounded with additional components and sold like gasoline through the EU retail market.
Famously?
The next question is.
Is it possible to organize such a scheme without the state regulatory authorities not knowing about it?
Obviously not.

One evening, sitting over a second glass of "tea", one of Yura's associates tells the following story.
Luka dragged Chizh on a trip across the republic.
And in one of the cities, at a gathering of the population, Luka heard from the people that he was not enough for the complete happiness of the ice sports palace.
He immediately turned to Chizh and said that it was necessary to build a palace for the people.
Which was done.
Those. Siskin dumped 10-20 million euros out of his own pocket (they did not say exactly).

I have seen quite a lot in my life and, being not quite sober, told the interlocutor that if Luka behaves this way, then he considers Chizha a "cash cow".
But there may come a moment when he will transfer him to the rank of "bull for the slaughter."
The interlocutor began to assure me that everything was "captured". And the company's Security Council is in close contact with the KGB RB.
And one of the leaders of the KGB is the head of the Security Council.
I realized that the guys in the Triple company had never eaten anything "sweeter than carrots" in their lives.
Stupider than what I have heard, I have never heard.
I didn’t even consider it necessary to explain to him what trouble they got into.

Several years later, from that moment, Luka accused Chizh of hiding and evading multimillion-dollar taxes. And he put both him and his son in the SI of the KGB RB.
When Chizh gave away "acquired by back-breaking labor" he was released.

All Chizh's activities were carried out only with the consent of Luka.
Maybe Luke was not in the share.
But the fact that he allowed himself to behave this way characterizes him as a dishonest, unprincipled, absolutely immoral scoundrel.
To indulge in criminal schemes in which state bodies are involved, and then publicly "catch thieves" is not the level of the head of state. This is the level of a district operative who planted drugs to increase the crime detection plan.

[pytar]

Hi Wang! Everything's Alright! I hope you do too!
I'm not surprised at the story you told! My personal impressions during contacts with Belarusians also confirm the extreme unpopularity of Lukashenka! He has done a lot of criminal things, and also - he has a bad attitude even towards those who supported the ego!
Thanks to repression and intimidation, Lukashenka managed to keep power! But with such a management model, sooner or later it reaches a critical point, followed by a loss of control! Everything starts to crumble like a card deck! Even if our "hero" ruled perfectly, after such a long reign, people were tired of him psychologically! This rule applies by the way to all authoritarian leaders, leaders, kings, etc.! You see, who else I'm hinting about ... And here Lukash has a series of gross mistakes, he is clearly panicking, for him all this is unexpected! Of course, there is always "some kind of plan", here is the story of the detention of the Wagnerites! I think this tertiary performance will not help him in any way! You know, you very aptly named him Luca, after the Italian mafia!

[demo]

That is how he, among themselves, was called by those whom I was visiting.
In Russian it sounds like this - What is the pop, so is the parish.

The most interesting thing in this whole story is that today those who stood at the throne and enjoyed the benefits understand that they are a consumable for our character.
He will use anyone (absolutely anyone).
Apart from his family - his sons, he does not trust anyone at all.
In contrast - you know who.
To create such an odious government is a talent you must have!
One against all.
But his days are over.
He can't help it.
Both the Airborne Forces and the Army in Minsk are already agony.

[abrakadabre]

Something is missing for your soul with Book demo conversation. It seems like a lot has been written. And so in confidence at home. And it does not cling. About:

Even if our "hero" ruled perfectly, after such a long reign, people were tired of him psychologically! This rule applies by the way to all authoritarian leaders, leaders, kings, etc.!

PREDATED to you from Ramses the Second Great. Who ruled the Egyptians in the second millennium BC. He lived for over 80 years, of which he was at the helm for about 66 years. At the same time, he was two orders of magnitude more totalitarian and arbitrary than Lukashenka. And any protests, organized or spontaneous, were crushed a little harder than the Belarusian "ghoul and tyrant". However, like all the rulers at that time.

[seregatara1969]

Like everything at the same time: the arrest of alleged saboteurs (the owner of a security office is a minister from some Minsk), an opposition rally and a wild howl of the Western press about this. Oh, I do not envy those from Belarus who muddied the father with Putin to embarrass. Lukashenka will not spare anyone. Will not allow a second Ukrainian scenario

[gost2012]

Quote: seregatara1969

Like everything at the same time: the arrest of alleged saboteurs (the owner of a security office is a minister from some Minsk), an opposition rally and a wild howl of the Western press about this. Oh, I do not envy those from Belarus who muddied the father with Putin to embarrass. Lukashenka will not spare anyone. Will not allow a second Ukrainian scenario

he did it himself, otherwise it is impossible. but the fact that he will not spare anyone - with this I agree.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

Hurry, preparation for the Maidan according to the Ukrainian scenario. Nationalists, though under the "Father" bred much less than (in) Ukraine under Yanukovych, Yushchenko and others like them.

[Nasrat]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

Hurry, preparation for the Maidan according to the Ukrainian scenario. Nationalists, though under the "Father" bred much less than (in) Ukraine under Yanukovych, Yushchenko and others like them.

I hope you are on the side of the protest mood? Re-election of the President of the Russian Federation is coming soon ... it will be even more fun ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nasr

I hope you are on the side of the protest mood?

In Belarus, definitely not. Not that a toad with a viper, but close to that. In spite of everything, Lukashenka retained many state-owned enterprises, and in terms of social welfare they are better than ours (in the broad sense of the word), and they look after their forests.

Quote: Nasr

Re-election of the President of the Russian Federation is coming soon ... it will be even more fun ...

There will be nothing interesting there, the result of these "elections" is known in advance.

[Nasrat]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

There will be nothing interesting there, the result of these "elections" is known in advance.

Well, what about the national festivities at the rallies? nooo rallies will be more fun, definitely !!!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nasr

Well, what about the national festivities at the rallies?

Do you think it is necessary to go to the "public festivities"? It depends on what slogans it will be held under.

[Kart]

It depends on who will pay.
If soros and other funds, then definitely "putin ', and" down with power. "

[Veleslav17]

what social sphere ????? what are you talking about ?? sitting in the Russian Federation and do not know anything. Every fourth man in Belarus does not live up to retirement, a decree on parasitism in the absence of normal jobs. Forests - transported to the EU in trucks one by one. They build harmful factories right near the cities. That the Svetlogorsk Central Control Commission, that Omskkarbon in Mogilev. On the common people and their opinion - the power laid down a bolt and this is so offhand. ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Veleslav17

what social sphere ????? what are you talking about ?? sitting in the Russian Federation and do not know anything. Every fourth man in Belarus does not live up to retirement, a decree on parasitism in the absence of normal jobs. Forests - transported to the EU in trucks one by one. They build harmful factories right near the cities. That the Svetlogorsk Central Control Commission, that Omskkarbon in Mogilev. On the common people and their opinion - the bolt laid down the power and this is so offhand

And how much maneuver there is for the redistribution of property! Mom, do not worry! Whoever comes, so many things can be done! Sorry people ...

[Captain Nemo]

On the territory of Russia, of the newly formed "states and khanates", only Belarus has Slavic power and independence. And how the Old Man deals with the coronavirus - there's a bone in the throat of the globalists. As for the demo, it's just plain funny. Where have you seen fair elections? Kindergarten. If Lukoshenko is overwhelmed, it will be worse for all honest people. Are you not enough of Maskvabad and Khazar Kuyov? RF and Outskirts are examples of desperate degeneration under the control of globalists.
And it was strange for all of Russia
once great and bold
stand up for little White Russia
and believe Lord Save

[minipig79]

If you are in a tank (submarine), then I will explain that the main and only demand of the people is an honest vote count. This is ensured by the uniform composition of the observation commission (the CEC cut off observers not from the authorities to the maximum), video filming of online polling stations (the CEC does not allow), transparent ballot boxes (the CEC said that this is the Stone Age). To a person familiar with logic, it is clear that if the mustachioed were confident in his support, then there is no reason to reject clearly valid measures of control on the part of his people.
You would have believed in the impartiality of the commissions, consisting of EDRA, counting votes for Pu when electing a president, right? Well, everyone who denies logic should be declared nationalist-militants-blue-crazy-bought, right? Because you cannot express anything reasonable in response.

[Kart]

Quote: minipig79

If you are in a tank (submarine), then I will explain that the main and only demand of the people is an honest vote count.

Yes, we know how it works.
Even if the vote is held as honestly as possible, the "people" will still shout that this is a deception.
The one who pays orders.
The task of the sponsors is to dump Lukashenka according to the Ukrainian scenario, to put their puppets there. The main condition is that they fiercely, animal hated Russia and the Russians.
What is promised to the "people" is completely unimportant. But usually, immediate prosperity is promised immediately after the shooting of the "bloody regime".

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Carte

The main condition is that they fiercely, animal hated Russia and the Russians.

This is just secondary. The struggle is simply going for privatization, according to the Russian scenario.
Belarus today, with its state-owned enterprises, is too tasty a morsel, so the Belarusian Chubais are licking their lips.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

The struggle is simply going for privatization, according to the Russian scenario.
Belarus today, with its state-owned enterprises, is too tasty a morsel, so the Belarusian Chubais are licking their lips.

The struggle for privatization by the Russian oligarchy.
The West is helping because I am sure that later the Russian oligarchs will unscrew their legs.
Rusal is a clear example of this.

[Captain Nemo]

This is one of hundreds of battles for global power. And privatization is a reward for the lackeys of globalists for their efforts. And most likely, after privatization, most of these state-owned enterprises will suddenly die. In terms of the common goals of the globalists, the state-owned enterprises of Belarus are an empty place.

[minipig79]

OK. I love Russia as the legal successor of my Motherland (although you are clearly not going there). Well I already wrote why no one offers me money? Why doesn't the headman of my group (Polytech 1997-2002) receive money? Why does a large mass of young programmers go to protest (and their salaries are tied to the currency, they have $ 1500-2500 on average, they don't need left-handed money).
Further. I never heard the answer why I, my wife, my father, my mother, my comrades and acquaintances (85% percent) HAVE NO RIGHT NOT TO LOVE the 26-year-old king? You know better who WE LOVE, right?
Following. Well, admit equal number of observers from each candidate to the commission. Well broadcast online at no. Well, the overwhelming majority will no longer doubt that they are massively falsified! The CEC was offered to buy cameras and install on polling stations for independent donations from citizens. NO YOU CAN NOT.
By God, you are either blessed, or (do not be offended).

[Kart]

Quote: minipig79

Why does a large mass of young programmers go to protest (and their salaries are tied to the currency, they have $ 1500-2500 on average, they don't need left-handed money).

Well, that is, there is enough money, the social sector is good, there is housing and work, but they do not like Lukashenka.
So let's take to the streets, break it all down, put some kind of woman in his place - and what will happen?
More money? The ability to "love" her? Freedom to leave?
"Lacy European panties", the second series.

So I will tell your wealthy young programmers what will happen.
The new, now dearly beloved state by them will gradually curtail support for science and industry. Some of them, the most successful, will go to other countries, because they have to live, and that costs money, it turns out. There they will have to stick their tongue in the opposite place, and plow on the uncle, most likely unloved.
For those who stayed, the new state will no longer distribute jobs and housing, and most likely will not pay a salary of $ 2500, because this is not provided for the colonies in a real capitalist Western economy.
Suddenly, it suddenly turned out that both gas and electricity are strong, several times more expensive than under the "hated Lukashenka".
Can not argue with that. Firstly, they fought just for this, and now everything is fair, and the owners of the colony will not let their hands be dismissed, they will press the brain economically.

[minipig79]

1. The state pays $ 250-300, because the products can be in demand in the post-Soviet space and Zimbabwe. Neither the EU, nor Asia, nor the United States need it, because not competitive (I'm talking about most of it).
2. Programmers work for the world market, so they EARN their salaries.
3. Explain your logical chain "went out into the street to express dissatisfaction with Lukashenka" = "we will break everything." Like Lukashenka pays out of his pocket to all state employees or what?
4. When the understanding that "there is no state money, there is only taxpayers' money" will come to your mind, then you will understand that these very taxpayers have the right to demand from elected officials to do what they were chosen for.
5. The faster the public sector begins to work in accordance with the laws of the economy (including the purchase of energy at market prices), the faster they will begin to count every penny and work more efficiently. As you know, a freebie has never brought anything good at all, except for corruption.

[Kart]

Quote: minipig79

Programmers work for the world market, so they EARN their salaries.

Where do they earn them In a spherical vacuum? Where do they live, who guards them, who gives them education? really the "world market"?
There are a lot of countries where the ability of the world market to pay the citizens of this country is severely limited. And you can.

Quote: minipig79

Explain your logical chain "went out into the street to express dissatisfaction with Lukashenka" = "we will break everything." Like Lukashenka pays out of his pocket to all state employees or what?

So why did you leave? What is the purpose? What should be done for dissatisfied Lukashenka. Raise salaries to the World (what?) Level? No, he "must go"! Well, it is clear that to leave, it means the system must "leave". And she herself will not leave? Well, we'll help her!
This is "destroy everything". This is what the protesters are brainwashed with.
All state employees are paid "from their own pockets" by the state, which is led by him, Lukashenko.

Quote: minipig79

When the understanding that "there is no state money, there is only taxpayers' money,"

Where do taxpayers get them from? Do they print themselves, and the state takes them away?

[minipig79]

... The Hi-Tech Park, which employs all IT companies that pay big money to the budget, was founded by her Tsepkalo, who was shamelessly unregistered by the CEC and whose wife is now from Tikhanovskaya. They do not come out because of low salaries or something else, but for the TRANSPARENT Counting of Voices and against the police arbitrariness!

[Kart]

So tell me, smart guy, where do the taxpayers get the money "which the state takes from them"?
Does the chain print them with his wife?

[Revival]

Why won't the "system" go away by itself? How is it?
Otherwise, it is true that everyone who breaks the law and refuses to leave should help in this difficult matter and help to leave according to the law

[Kart]

Here the problem is who will determine who should leave and who should not.
The people are not suitable, this is only for meetings.
The process is controlled by a specific group of people. And she, as usual, has her own interests.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

5. The faster the public sector begins to work in accordance with the laws of the economy (including the purchase of energy at market prices), the faster they will begin to count every penny and work more efficiently. As you know, a freebie has never brought anything good at all, except for corruption.

We went through this in the 90s, it does not work.

Quote: minipig79

1. The state pays $ 250-300, because the products can be in demand in the post-Soviet space and Zimbabwe. Neither the EU, nor Asia, nor the United States need it, because not competitive (I'm talking about most of it).

Strikes, no? 70% satisfaction. At least you have factories, in larger quantities than we do.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: minipig79

5. The faster the public sector starts to work in accordance with the laws of the economy (including the purchase of energy resources at market prices), the faster they will begin to count every penny and work more efficiently.

Count it or not, and the efficiency of companies with production located in Southeast Asia will still be higher.
So the "market public sector" will quickly die, and trade and procurement will proliferate on its corpse. screwdriver assembly and other secondary organizations. There was a factory - but it became an office center and a source of scrap metal.

[Tank hard]

Quote: minipig79

because the products can be in demand in the post-Soviet space and Zimbabwe. Neither the EU, nor Asia, nor the United States need it, because not competitive (I'm talking about most of it).

Belarus has good products, food products. so in general I constantly acquire. But that. that will not be needed in the EU and others, except for Russia, for example, it is true. But there corporations have already divided everything and they do not need someone else's. This is the fate of any country. who decides to join the EU market, for example, they will poison with all sorts of rubbish, and ruin the good, because there is money. And this must be understood when choosing a path in that direction. Though. someone likes it.

Quote: minipig79

The faster the public sector begins to work in accordance with the laws of the economy (including the purchase of energy resources at market prices), the faster they will begin to count every penny and work more efficiently. As you know, a freebie has never brought anything good at all, except for corruption.

In Russia, at one time, "effective managers" and "young reformers" said similar things, and did, did ... and did.

[Revival]

Are you trying to convey an interesting idea?
Gas and communal apartments, gasoline are getting more expensive here ..
Salaries are small ...
Housing and jobs are not distributed ...
I see ...

[minipig79]

The salary is small when you produce a worthless product (service) that you cannot export to the world market. Is this clear?

[Revival]

I didn’t have a question why this was so.
It's just that the commentator Kart, in his commentary, actively argued how it would become bad in Belarus if Lukashenka was dismissed and cited as if indisputable signs of the country of the colony, and on these universal grounds I came to him and whom he meant, only Belarus ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: minipig79

The salary is small when you produce a worthless product (service) that you cannot export to the world market. Is this clear?

"Chilly" IT-shniki begin to understand that not every product other than the one they produce is worthless only when the market-determined payment for communal services, treatment and education of their children will force them to get into credit bondage. And that's when credit collars cool the urge to "change" better than any police baton.

[Sklendarka]

I agree with you completely, but here's how to convey to the rest that I want a different manager for myself, because I'm tired of the old one ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: minipig79

Well broadcast online at no. Well, the overwhelming majority will no longer doubt that they are massively falsified!

ha ha ha yah? exactly? out in Russia and the ballot boxes are transparent, and webcams on the internet can also be admitted to the supervisory commissions without any problems - look as long as you want, and it is written so that those who wish can review it, and what? every election and every vote, the opposition and Western partners scream that everything is not fair

I would like to ask, for whom are you going to change dad? Well, let's say he zadolbal Belarusians, who instead of him? or while the idea "does not care who, just not dad"?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Sanichsan , in their heads except for "tired" and "get" there is nothing, and this is not their own, but introduced. Even their complete absence of the declared economic and social programs of the "oppositionists" does not make us think.

[Captain Nemo]

Your silly programmers. The acromia of programming know nothing more. No systemic knowledge. They will grow up, they will fill the bumps, they will grow wiser. If you want to force a woman to do something, make it fashionable. (This also applies to young people). There are older familiar programmers - like they follow Lukashenka's mountain.

[Revival]

You still haven't answered that:
Urns are not transparent
Video is not allowed
Observers are limited
What is this all for?

[Kart]

And for nothing.
You have it, in some other countries it is different. Well, there are parades under rainbow flags in lace panties, but you don't.
And there are countries, and there are many, where voting at gunpoint takes place, and nothing.

[Kart]

Calm down, "Belarus".
It is also a question of which of us is from which country.
You don't need her, do you?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: minipig79

So do not thrust your pig's snout into another country, do not push your opinion to the inhabitants of this country how they should live and what to do. Available wrote?

Available expressed themselves.
It is a pity that you failed to understand that you are not on the Belarusian site.
So the mirror is in your hands and "-" in karma.

[Revival]

"What will, what not will, all the same" (c).
Clear..

[Revival]

Something you contradict yourself.
"And there are countries, and there are quite a few of them, where voting takes place at gunpoint."
And why does it pass at gunpoint, also just like that, for nothing?

[Captain Nemo]

There are not enough videos and transparent ballot boxes for fair elections. It is necessary that people make their choice themselves, and not under the zombie influence of other people's uncles and madams. The media and the Internet have their masters with their murky interests. Women, young people are very susceptible to other people's influence and cannot resist this in modern life. We see demonstrations of townspeople, not villagers. And as you know, degenerates, parasites and groups of external influence are concentrated in cities. Compare the rallies in Khabarovsk and Minsk. In Khabarovsk, it is clear that the people spontaneously left - there is no organization, banners made in the same style, decoration, zombie chants, inflated red rubber products. But in Minsk there is a branch of Bolotnaya. Fair elections are possible only in small societies where everyone knows everyone. Only Lukashenka can keep the independence of Belarus. If Lukashenko is overwhelmed, then Belarus will face torn and degeneration. Recently Hungary has rested its feet - we are looking at how the globalists will swallow and digest it.

[abrakadabre]

You still haven't answered that:
Urns are not transparent
Video is not allowed
Observers are limited
What is this all for?

Are you talking about the United States? Then I fully support.

[Revival]

Can you say something more relevant to the topic or just this senseless comment?

[abrakadabre]

Which of the following is not suitable for the US elections? Which, moreover, are not direct, which greatly increases the possibility of manipulation. Specifically, the buying up of electoral votes.

[Revival]

The United States is not a standard for me, the system that you are talking about, upon acquaintance, generally seemed archaic to me, and there are a lot of examples of any archaic in the laws of the United States, especially in everyday matters at the state level.
I did not equal the examples of an endemic nature, I am more interested in modern approaches for comparison.
And the problem, rather, is not in the examples, but in the obvious overt focus that measures such as: "Bins are not transparent
Video is not allowed
Observers are limited "and so on.
In an extreme case, I will understand a more frank approach, like “I will again and again because I have the right (strength)” than for the hypocritical pretense, in this case, of Lukashenka, that everything is democratic.

[fruit_cake]

ukrobots immediately resort to minus all the unwanted, so the question is who takes them seriously?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

If you are in a tank (submarine), then I will explain that the main and only demand of the people is an honest vote count. This is ensured by the uniform composition of the observation commission (the CEC cut off observers not from the authorities to the maximum), video filming of online polling stations (the CEC does not allow), transparent ballot boxes (the CEC said that this is the Stone Age). To a person familiar with logic, it is clear that if the mustachioed were confident in his support, then there is no reason to reject clearly valid measures of control on the part of his people.

You will laugh, but we have about the same claims to the authorities.

Quote: minipig79

You would have believed in the impartiality of the commissions, consisting of EDRA, counting votes for Pu when electing a president, right? Well, everyone who denies logic should be declared nationalist-militants-blue-crazy-bought, right? Because you cannot express anything reasonable in response.

Roughly the same thing is happening in our country, this is called bourgeois democracy in action. Lukashenka really stayed too long, and his fault is that there is no worthy successor.
But is it possible to seriously consider those characters who are leading your protest today? I'm just afraid that the people will be divorced again, and some kind of analogue of Poroshenko will be imprisoned. If you had your own Stalin or Lenin in protest, I would be the first to move to you, to Belarus.

[minipig79]

HA-HA-HA. As much as I do not respect the great I.V. Stalin, it must be admitted that his time (and he himself) forged himself in the furnace and became what he became. Where did Stalin suddenly fall on your head or us? Does he need a bow or poo? What would first of all send the ENTIRE top power to saw cedars with jigsaws in Siberia for 25 years?
And let's not distort that the fault of your king and ours lies in the fact that having done their job (well, in the first years they did a lot of good), they cannot let go of this power. I can't understand how Germany lives without Putin or Lukashenko? How does Switzerland hold up? How did Sweden and Finland not freeze out? Well, how do they live without these geniuses at all ???????
And if you come to live in Belarus, be prepared for lower pensions. Lower salary. Prices for clothes, shoes, food, gasoline are higher than in Moscow. in Minsk 1 sq. housing for about $ 1300. Any militiaman will drag you to court and get a fine (term) if you "suspiciously" stand in line on the street, clap your hands. If somewhere in the net write something disrespectful against a mustachioed prizident, get a deadline (we have such an article).

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

And let's not distort that the fault of your king and ours lies in the fact that having done their job (well, in the first years they did a lot of good), they cannot let go of this power.

You look at the government as a way to satisfy the economic interests of your clan, if there is no successor in the clan, then there will be a struggle between the oligarchic clans, which we observe both in you and us. Although the processes are still very different (we have a strong impact on the loss of a common economic space and regional bourgeoisie, as, for example, in Khabarovsk). How to decide who to root for a toad or a viper?

Quote: minipig79

Any policeman will drag you to court and get a fine (term) if you stand in line "suspiciously" on the street, clap your hands.

Any policeman in our country can easily find white powder, anywhere, or maybe in addition to cartridges and (or) a grenade, if local officials need it.

[Kart]

Quote: minipig79

I can't understand how Germany lives without Putin or Lukashenko? How does Switzerland hold up? How did Sweden and Finland not freeze out? Well, how do they live without these geniuses at all ???????

So you don't understand much at all.
They have their own geniuses.
It's only in the minds of young fighters against the regime that everything is done by itself, the people themselves. Contrary to.

[Revival]

This is not bourgeois democracy, but rather feudalism in disguise

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Lukashenka really stayed too long, and his fault is that there is no worthy successor.

Is it the fault?
"They do not sow successors, do not reap, - they themselves grow." ~ ©

[orionvitt]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Hurry up preparation for the Maidan according to the Ukrainian scenario

Lukashenko, flirting with the Nazis, imagined that he would outwit the whole world. We've already seen one of these in Ukraine. I have a question, do people who have become "big frogs", even in such a "small swamp" as Belarus, lose their minds so much that they seriously think that they are smarter than everyone else? What does the sole authority do with people. In fact, Lukashenka is just a petty intriguer, visible through and through. With whom he was going to play.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: orionvitt

Lukashenko, flirting with the Nazis, imagined that he would outwit the whole world.

There is no need to lie, Lukashenka can be blamed for anything, but not for flirting with the Nazis.

[orionvitt]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

No need to lie

And here to lie? I see you are not quite in the subject. When Lukashenka needs to play political games against Russia, no one disperses the rallies of the Natsiks, and vice versa, they protect them from indignant citizens. And they even organize, with the full consent of the "authorities". At least last summer and autumn.

[gost2012]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: orionvitt

Lukashenko, flirting with the Nazis, imagined that he would outwit the whole world.

There is no need to lie, Lukashenka can be blamed for anything, but not for flirting with the Nazis.

Precisely what he flirted with. Obvious and unambiguous. You are not in the subject at all

[gost2012]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

Hurry, preparation for the Maidan according to the Ukrainian scenario. Nationalists, though under the "Father" bred much less than (in) Ukraine under Yanukovych, Yushchenko and others like them.

Here are not nationalists, here the people.

[Vend]

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

Well, how much they paid, so much came

[minipig79]

Pay me money, oh, I'll go somewhere. Nobody wants to pay for something.

[Kart]

This is called low political responsibility. Well, according to the type of low social among some category of citizens.

[Vend]

Quote: minipig79

Pay me money, oh, I'll go somewhere. Nobody wants to pay for something.

This is how "spontaneous" and political rallies arise.

[minipig79]

So how is it? When boobies blurt out their tongues, for it is really impossible to assume that a person may have any views of his own on the structure of the country in which he lives. And that this person has the right to voice this opinion and not be rammed by riot police (well, think that in some constitution it is allowed). Well, kiss your Chubais-Sechin-Miller and other Rotenbergs in one place, you don't just need to judge another country according to your essence.

[Vend]

Quote: minipig79

So how is it?

When a person does not care what to rally for, if only the money is paid.

Quote: minipig79

Well, kiss your Chubais-Sechin-Miller and other Rotenbergs in one place, you don't just need to judge another country according to your essence.

What did you say about another country?

[minipig79]

There is a difference to me, I am for the change of this indelible. I ask you to bring sponsors to me who will pay for my views and beliefs. Or p * zet - do not roll bags?

[Kart]

Oh, are you for the money?
Well, what was required, well done.

[Vend]

Quote: minipig79

There is a difference to me, I am for the change of this indelible. I ask you to bring sponsors to me who will pay for my views and beliefs. Or p * zet - do not roll bags?

And what does not suit you? There is no war in Belarus, in 2019 the inflation rate was 0,88%, the unemployment rate in Belarus was 0.2% in 2020, utilities, gasoline and prices in stores throughout Belarus are about the same. What do you want to exchange for?

[minipig79]

You put your training manual with "there was no war" to hell. In general, no one in Belarus needs a war, no matter what kind of power there is. What wars were there in Sweden, Finland, Poland? What happens in which Lebanon, Syria is deep for me ..... My country worries me where my retired parents live, my wife and I, my children.
I will judge the inflation rate by the rise in prices for food and consumer goods. I am not interested in your official popular statistics. For the blockhead - write the price in 2019 and 2020, for example, for a pack of kent, for 1 liter. 95th.
About unemployment. 80% of vacancies for salaries up to $ 300. Well, if you are ready to work for bread and water, go. It is impossible to keep a family on these crumbs.

[Vend]

Quote: minipig79

You put your training manual with "there was no war" to hell. In general, no one in Belarus needs a war, no matter what kind of power there is. What wars were there in Sweden, Finland, Poland? What happens in which Lebanon, Syria is deep for me ..... My country worries me where my retired parents live, my wife and I, my children.
I will judge the inflation rate by the rise in prices for food and consumer goods. I am not interested in your official popular statistics. For the blockhead - write the price in 2019 and 2020, for example, for a pack of kent, for 1 liter. 95th.
About unemployment. 80% of vacancies for salaries up to $ 300. Well, if you are ready to work for bread and water, go. It is impossible to keep a family on these crumbs.

A lot of emotions, a boorish appeal to you, although you and I did not drink at brotherhood, and there is no answer to the question. You know, it's not difficult for me to repeat the questions, what does not suit you and what do you want to exchange for? And I will add which country do you want to get in the end?

[Kart]

He is very young in my opinion, and accordingly stupid.
Any cunning logic can only be answered with aggressive stupidity
"Bravery and stupidity"

[Malyuta]

Quote: Wend

When a person does not care what to rally for, if only the money is paid.

Did the Khabarovsk residents also get paid?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

Well, kiss your Chubais-Sechin-Miller and other Rotenbergs in one place, you don't just need to judge another country according to your essence.

It may surprise you, but not everyone is like that.

[Revival]

You are now throwing beads ..
Your opponents already directly write that they absolutely do not accept: "that this person has the right to voice this opinion."
For example, commentator Kart: "And there are countries, and there are many, where voting at gunpoint takes place, and nothing." All the rules, type!

Here! So you're wasting your time

[Kart]

Indeed, in vain.
If the opposition is so irreconcilable, does not accept any objections and doubts, then those loyal to the authorities have every right to do so.
What are you not happy with? Freedom of opinion.

[Veleslav17]

are you not ashamed to write such nonsense ???? Who was paid from 18 year old student to 80 year old grandmother ??? From a worker to a director of a large fimra ??? Sit on this site write nonsense.

[Kart]

For "grandmothers" there are psychological methods. And for a student, why not pay. all the more, many don't give a damn for whom, because of their youth and stupidity, they don't like all the power. They are free, creative, independent and so on.

[Veleslav17]

What were you standing next to when the money was handed out ??? or do you only go to support the candidate who gets paid ??? In Belarus, the people now walk on their own and no one pays anything to anyone. Everyone is already sick of this power.

[Kart]

I repeat once again, basically the people do what propaganda tells them.
If it is strong, numerous, correctly arranged, then the people basically take this bay into their heads as their own thought, decision. Votes with an indignant heart, and the like.
It will be necessary - the people will starve and sleep on bare ground, but in the name of some bright future. This is also the result of well-organized propaganda work. (well, the truth is limited time, you still need to eat something).
In your case, they are breaking a completely prosperous state.
There is no reason to doubt that the authors of color revolutions are competent enough. The technology has been worked out and tested. And we are now watching just her work in another country.
Whatever you write or say here about honesty is a clear, intelligible result of the color revolution technology.
This is me for those who are watching from the side.
Alas, the victims of these technologies cannot be cured by simple methods.

And about the money paid, that's what.
Are they there at rallies and actions, do they eat or drink something? There is no medicine. tents, posters, transport, megaphones, etc.
(see cookies on the Maidan)
This is basically a fee.
Only the organizers are paid with money.

[Veleslav17]

What propaganda ???? You're all assuming that someone wants to take Luka away. You don't even admit that he is tired of the people !!!!!!!!!!! He and his bureaucrats do not consider people for people. There are lies and eyewash all around, like in the worst years of the USSR.

[Incvizitor]

Even in the best years, the USSR was better than when it collapsed.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Incvizitor

Even in the best years, the USSR was better than when it collapsed.

This is yes!

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Incvizitor

Even in the best years, the USSR was better than when it collapsed.

People in the USSR lived amazingly during the 1920s, repression and famine in 1930. Incredible revelations.

[Kart]

What kind of kindergarten? I'm tired of these sweets, I want others.
This is not a criterion for a reasonable person - tired, not tired. It's not an opera house - I'm tired of the soloist, I want something else.
What is not good for the country? Are the crowds hungry in the streets? No work? or what?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Veleslav17

then he is tired of the people !!!!!!!!!!! He and his bureaucrats do not consider people for people. All around lies and eyewash,

I thought that you wrote about the Russian Federation.

[minipig79]

DO NOT drink, do not eat. What the fuck are tents? Wipe your zenki, look at the photo of what you are judging about! People came to the authorized rally for a couple of hours and left. What kind of transport? We also arrived in cars around the city by public transport. What megaphones ??? (in the words of Lelik: Ugh, he is walking! "

[Kart]

And I was there.
Count it up?
So you can plug your keyboard with Lelik's words.
and I will make any pictures for you.

[gost2012]

where you were, in that place you stayed, there you stay.
the authorities drove medicine, and the cops. all. So don't get out of where you are now.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Carte

And for a student, why not pay. all the more so many don't give a damn for whom, because of their youth and stupidity, they don't like all the power. They are free, creative, independent and so on.

I am very sorry, but I have met young people much smarter than mature ones.

[Vend]

Quote: Veleslav17

are you not ashamed to write such nonsense ???? Who was paid from 18 year old student to 80 year old grandmother ??? From a worker to a director of a large fimra ??? Sit on this site write nonsense.

Is it on a weekday? Normal people have a working day. The rally was held from 18:00 to 22:00, and the next day to work. So who could be there? Support group, bums, students, retirees, hired staff.

[Veleslav17]

funny ..... I walk and walk until 12 at night and tomorrow to work. Your argument is so-so ...

[gost2012]

Quote: Wend

Quote: Veleslav17

are you not ashamed to write such nonsense ???? Who was paid from 18 year old student to 80 year old grandmother ??? From a worker to a director of a large fimra ??? Sit on this site write nonsense.

Is it on a weekday? Normal people have a working day. The rally was held from 18:00 to 22:00, and the next day to work. So who could be there? Support group, bums, students, retirees, hired staff.

normal people were there, after work they went. And the staff hiring 30+ thousand people - not too large staff ?!
There will be another meeting on the 6th.

[Vend]

Quote: Gost2012

Quote: Wend

Quote: Veleslav17

are you not ashamed to write such nonsense ???? Who was paid from 18 year old student to 80 year old grandmother ??? From a worker to a director of a large fimra ??? Sit on this site write nonsense.

Is it on a weekday? Normal people have a working day. The rally was held from 18:00 to 22:00, and the next day to work. So who could be there? Support group, bums, students, retirees, hired staff.

normal people were there, after work they went. And the staff hiring 30+ thousand people - not too large staff ?!
There will be another meeting on the 6th.

Here is the answer.
Four-time Olympic champion in biathlon Alexander Tikhonov expressed his opinion about the rallies in support of the opposition in Belarus.

- What can you say about the rallies in Minsk in support of the opposition presidential candidate Svetlana Tikhanovskaya?

- Here I talked with four protesters. They went to the cafe where I was having lunch. We got to talking, I started asking questions. He asked, do you understand why you specifically go out? What would you like? Do you think they answered something intelligible? No, just ooh and ooh.

I tried to explain to them what kind of catastrophe is happening in the United States, what problems are in England, in the countries of the European Union. In Belarus in 1995, all people survived only at the expense of livestock. There were social problems, housing problems ... And look how the country is flourishing now, how many pressing issues have been resolved over the years.

What a well-groomed Minsk, what events are held, what luxurious sports facilities are being built, how agriculture is developing. It is clear that not everything is perfect, but show me a place on earth where there are no problems at all?

Fair elections? And then what? Look at Tikhanovskaya with her blogger husband? They went on stage and yelled something. But do they have a program? Show me what you specifically want to do for the country if you can come to power? I am sure that the people will be much worse.

Now Belarus is the fifth largest producer of dairy products in the world. This year, an amazing harvest of wheat, corn, rapeseed. And the people who work in the field think about how to feed the protesters.

- Why are you so sure?

- Because not a single worker came to these rallies. Neither a tractor driver nor a livestock breeder. Who went? Office plankton, IT people, students who are interested in yelling. True, this should not even be considered seriously, - said Tikhonov.

[gost2012]

Here's another one, also a champion one:
https://sport.tut.by/news/aboutsport/695222.html

[Vend]

Quote: Gost2012

Here's another one, also a champion one:
https://sport.tut.by/news/aboutsport/695222.html

This is not an answer Ostapchuk also said that she never supported the current president.
Read in full: https://sport.tut.by/news/aboutsport/695222.html "She was always against Lukashenka It's like Makarevich in Russia

[gost2012]

Well, that wasn't the answer either - it was a lifelong supporter.
So the conversation won't work. In fact, office plankton and students, in general, can also probably be attributed to the people, not only champions, officials and cops people, agree?
But from within the country I tell you that there were normal people, including hard workers, the level of discontent with the AHL in the country is really high. Such are the things.

[Vend]

Quote: Gost2012

Well, that wasn't the answer either - it was a lifelong supporter.
So the conversation won't work. In fact, office plankton and students, in general, can also probably be attributed to the people, not only champions, officials and cops people, agree?
But from within the country I tell you that there were normal people, including hard workers, the level of discontent with the AHL in the country is really high. Such are the things.

Where did Alexander Tikhonov say that he is a supporter? This was not the case. Well, a dissatisfied citizen of Belarus, what do you want to get in the country in the end? What program does Tikhanovskaya have? I watched her speech at the rally. you know it's funny, it's like a carbon copy, that in Ukraine in 2014, that the Russian liberals, that in Armenia, are talking about the same thing. And everyone is striving for only one place in power. They spat on you and your displeasure

[gost2012]

Who didn’t care about me and my displeasure ...

[Revival]

Primitive as it is, reference

[Malyuta]

Quote: Wend

Well, how much they paid, so much came

I am very sorry, but will you go to rally for Putin for free?

[Vend]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: Wend

Well, how much they paid, so much came

I am very sorry, but will you go to rally for Putin for free?

I voted for him for free, I also voted for free for amendments to the Constitution I'll have to go, because I don't want to go back to the 90s.

[gost2012]

nobody paid anyone. If even one kopeck were found, Tikhanovskaya would be sitting not far from her husband. You can't just imagine our alignment.
This is really people left.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Maki Maki

They have their own "Swamp"

You know, you are almost right. In those distant times when loaves cost 13 kopecks. this place was called the station “Bolotnaya.” So I live here in my seventies.

[Bar1]

ugh, you are a fool, you used Churchile's gesture - Victoria and she hopes to win there?

[Tank jacket]

Davos January 2020
--------
At the forum that ended in Davos, Switzerland, George Soros promised the whole world to give his Open Society (we know it as the Soros Foundation) a billion dollars. To create a “global university on the basis of the existing network”, to cover, so to speak, the entire planet. Because we have to do something about climate change. Well, and "to fight against authoritarian governments."

[pepVvo]

Why swamp at once? Peacefully, without a fight with the police. They have a right.

[svp67]

Strange, but even in the photo presented to the article, I see a man dressed in "military" style and seems to be sober,

but why wasn’t they detained him, he could be a "Russian militant" ...
Oh, they are not looking for "terrorists" there, not there ...

[Zeev zeev]

They didn’t detain him, because he was a "chihar" from the Committee.

[Revival]

What an inconspicuous Chihar))

[novel66]

well, burned ...

[Kuz]

Old school

[NIKN]

Quote: svp67

I see a man dressed in "military" style and looks sober,

I'm not sure, after what happened, they probably won't let sober people go to the rallies, the alcohol detectors must have installed frames. Or maybe he came with a woman.

[Tank jacket]

On the left in the same photo in a black T-shirt is a paid ultras. I tilted my head so as not to light up ...

[minipig79]

Uncover your divine secret. How to identify who is who in the photo?

[Tank jacket]

What do you see in these photos?

[Tank jacket]

In the bottom photo, the same T-shirt, two more are writing something: one in a black T-shirt and the other in a black T-shirt over a T-shirt and they also write ...
In the top photo, all who have their backs are coordinators of the protest commissioners.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tank jacket

In the bottom photo, the same T-shirt, two more are writing something: one in a black T-shirt and the other in a black T-shirt over a T-shirt and also write ... bully
In the top photo, all who have their backs are coordinators of the protest commissioners.

You would have to work for the FSB, you wouldn’t have a price.

[Doliva63]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Tank jacket

In the bottom photo, the same T-shirt, two more are writing something: one in a black T-shirt and the other in a black T-shirt over a T-shirt and also write ... bully
In the top photo, all who have their backs are coordinators of the protest commissioners.

You would have to work for the FSB, you wouldn’t have a price.

And maybe he writes from there. How do we know?

[Revival]

Is there proof of payment? Or, as usual, boltology and like this and so everyone knows?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: svp67

but why wasn’t they detained him, he could be a "Russian militant" ...
Oh, they are not looking for "terrorists" there, not there ...

Want to laugh? There are no Belarusian border guards on the border between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus. That's absolutely.

And there were crowds of Ministry of Internal Affairs without uniform. This is now popular with them.

[Incvizitor]

And this in the photo is by chance not those red-and-white rags of the Belarusian fascists?

[minipig79]

Where did you get this crap from? Show me a real photo, where someone in Belarus will be waving something with a swastika. Historically, the swastika evokes the memory of burned villages and populations. There is no point in even discussing this nonsense.

[Incvizitor]

Here's what you need to know about this rag, very much like a maydaun, a rag of local natsy.

[Revival]

So where is the swastika in the photo?
Or a talker?

[Incvizitor]

This is still an old picture was to show the essence of this "opposition" and it is so. I do not exclude that there are normal people at the rally, only the Nazi creep is hiding behind them, and people should understand this, I didn’t take pictures in “Photoshop” enough for any inquisitive person to google “the flag of the Belarusian Nazis” and everything is visible.

[Revival]

Boltologist, I understand that.
That is, you can not bring photos from the rallies with a swastika?
Can I honestly call you a liar?

[Incvizitor]

Yes, and ss Galitchina are not fascists, a different symbol means a different meaning.
By your attempts to justify the natsy you show who you really are.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Incvizitor

And calling the Belarusian fascists fascists, I do not incite any discord, they are with your Bandera and fascists.

You need to be treated for an advanced stage of "ism". Not patriotism, there is no slip of the tongue.

[Revival]

And here is Galicia and so on. No need to leave the topic.

"Yes, and ss Galichina are not fascists, a different symbol means a different meaning."

The point is not in the symbol, but in the fact that you claimed that such symbolism is used right now, namely:
that rallies of supporters of the opposition, which are held in Minsk, with flags with a swastika.
Pictures were manipulative.
We are waiting for proof.
Where? The whole day has passed ...

If you want to sit down quietly as expected, pretend you don't see the comment and don't reply, otherwise you look stupid.

I repeat: Can I honestly call you a liar? Or is the question mark out of place?
The day has passed, there is no evidence ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

Where did you get this crap from? Show me a real photo, where someone in Belarus will be waving something with a swastika. Historically, the swastika evokes the memory of burned villages and populations. There is no point in even discussing this nonsense.

Do not pay attention, the Zaputin trolls are always trying to kindle interethnic strife, by any means.

[Incvizitor]

You fshatskih trolls not RF not RB will not be able to destroy, no matter how you try to drown for the pro-Western mud.

And calling the Belarusian fascists fascists, I do not incite any discord, they are big friends with your Bandera and Fashington, and normal residents of Belarus should know this.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Incvizitor

You fshatskih trolls not RF not RB will not be able to destroy, no matter how you try to drown for the pro-Western mud.

I do not know who the "fshatskie trolls" are, but yes, I really hope that it will not work. And for the "pro-Western filth" our government, the central bank is drowning, and even the "main Siberian Siberian" affectionately calls them partners. And just imagine, they keep their money, wives, children and mistresses in this most hated Western mud.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: minipig79

Show me a real photo, where someone in Belarus will be waving something with a swastika.

that is, if you remove the SS from the SS Galicia, then all the rules?
but it's good that you were indignant at this moment. it's clear now why you're drowning

[shoroh]

The two-faced Lukashenko is disgusting.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: shoroh

The two-faced Lukashenko is disgusting.

How does he differ from our politicians? Unless he left many enterprises and "collective farms" in state ownership, but the social sector there is better than ours.

[Nemo]

Are you so sure about that? If you lived with us, you would immediately compare social networks.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Nemo

Are you so sure about that?

Come on, all the same "on you", because we are not close friends.

Quote: Nemo

If you lived with us, you would immediately compare social networks.

If you lived with us, you would know what is hidden behind the beautiful screens.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

So you sort it out with your * ram.

The time will come to figure it out.

Quote: minipig79

And do not try to judge those with whom you do not communicate every day and where you do not live. Is that right?

Not right. I, and I think none of my fellow citizens, do not want to see another Ukraine next to my state. And the matter is coming to that.

[minipig79]

If you only have 2 off-on positions in your head, congratulations. Your development is at the level of a teenager 13-16 years old. Let me tell you a secret, there is nothing white or black in the world, everything has 2 sides.
Personally, since 2010, it has been painful for me to see how the heiress of my great Motherland is being plundered with impunity by a bunch of freaks. And that the people (you) do not want to do anything against it. I am disgusted that the state policy of the Russian Federation is aimed at spitting on everything created by the entire people of the USSR. That the heroes on television are not advanced workers-engineers-scientists-inventors, but all sorts of Malakhov-Sobchaks. I am disgusted to see the shameless arguments of the Chubais-seagulls - how they "care" for the country. I am disgusted to see when the colonels find dough apartments. REMOVE THE BALANCE IN YOUR EYE, then teach others.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

If you only have 2 off-on positions in your head, congratulations. Your development is at the level of a teenager 13-16 years old. Let me tell you a secret, there is nothing white or black in the world, everything has 2 sides.

I will not comment on your evaluative opinion.

Quote: minipig79

Personally, since 2010, it has been painful for me to see how the heiress of my great Motherland is being plundered with impunity by a bunch of freaks. And that the people (you) do not want to do anything against it. I am disgusted that the state policy of the Russian Federation is aimed at spitting on everything created by the entire people of the USSR. That the heroes on television are not advanced workers-engineers-scientists-inventors, but all sorts of Malakhov-Sobchaks. I am disgusted to see the shameless arguments of the Chubais-seagulls - how they "care" for the country. I am disgusted to see when the colonels find dough apartments.

Why do you think I like all this? I was born in the USSR, and Belarus, like Ukraine, is the same pieces of my Motherland, especially since I have relatives there and there. On Belarus, I judge from the words of my uncle, a retired colonel of the Soviet Army. I understand that pensioners have their own perception of life, but in my judgments I try to take this into account. I am aware that the president always expresses the will of the ruling class, we have a large resource and financial oligarchy, I don’t know who you have in Belarus, I think it’s industrial capital. But in any case, neither your president, nor ours, did not express the interests of the people, do not express and will never express them. For some kind of radical changes, a change in the socio-economic formation is needed. I know for sure that neither Babariko, nor anyone else, of your inmates, will change the socio-economic formation. And all this will end with the usual redistribution of property.

[minipig79]

For the most part, I agree with you. Naturally, none of the candidates will behave like J.V. Stalin. But now they would simply gobble up this. Today everyone wants to live here and now, the ideals of the past have been trampled underfoot.
The point is not that Babariko or Tsepkalo will tear off their last shirt and give them to the poor. The muzzle is tired of seeing one and the same on TV. Tired of listening to the nonsense of a pensioner who considers himself the most intelligent, honest, far-sighted, fair. I'm ready to see one lipped black criminal on the screen sooner.
The era of Brezhnev's stagnation is characterized by "extra petrodollar rubles" in the country. Stagnation, but everything was enough to do nothing and live in peace.
Lukashenka's stagnation is characterized by an increase in the national debt, increased inflation, constant accusations of some external hurray for their miscalculations (either the Russian Federation, the EU, the USA, or whoever, but not him). A real brain drain. At the moment, I also see my daughters getting higher education somewhere in Germany, so that they could live where they see fit. I, alas, do not speak languages, I will die here.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: minipig79

The muzzle is tired of seeing one and the same on TV.

As I understand you.

Quote: minipig79

A real brain drain. At the moment, I also see my daughters getting higher education somewhere in Germany, so that they could live where they see fit.

I took my children from school for family education. In rural schools and small towns, we no longer have a normal school education. It is not normal for a third-grader to prove to me that God created people, if the school textbook says that Prince Vladimir built hospitals and schools when he was baptized. If, instead of adding a dozen, they force children to learn the addition table. At least your schools are normal, but in the outback (as far as I know, of course). And we build three churches a day, and schools are "optimized".

Quote: minipig79

Lukashenka's stagnation is characterized by an increase in the national debt, increased inflation, constant accusations of some external hurray for their miscalculations (either the Russian Federation, the EU, the USA, or whoever, but not him).

I think this is the case throughout the post-Soviet space.

[Sklendarka]

You are of course right, well, let me share ...

[Sklendarka]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: minipig79

So you sort it out with your * ram.

The time will come to figure it out.

Quote: minipig79

And do not try to judge those with whom you do not communicate every day and where you do not live. Is that right?

Not right. I, and I think none of my fellow citizens, do not want to see another Ukraine next to my state. And the matter is coming to that.

And beyond the Urals, China is this normal ???

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Skalendarka

And beyond the Urals, China is this normal ???

What are you talking about? What did you want to say? China, strictly speaking, is behind the Amur.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Skalendarka

And beyond the Urals, China is this normal ???

What are you talking about? What did you want to say? China, strictly speaking, is behind the Amur.

How divorced you are from life, beyond the Amur, China, and beyond the Urals, China ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Skalendarka

How divorced you are from life, beyond the Amur, China, and beyond the Urals, China ...

What made you come to this conclusion?

[kepmor]

who would doubt it ... of course better ...
I just would like to hear from you at the expense of this banquet ...
and why are Belarusians "from paradise" to us and the Poles in droves to earn money ???? ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: kepmor

who would doubt it ... of course better ...
I just would like to hear from you at the expense of this banquet ...
and why are Belarusians "from paradise" to us and the Poles in droves to earn money ???? ...

I've seen a lot of Ukrainians, Uzbeks, Tajiks, but I haven't seen a single one of Belarusians.
They bring the same things to the European Union in droves, this is especially noticeable in graduates of good universities, with specialties in demand. My classmate's son works in Australia, a Java developer.

[minipig79]

Let me take responsibility for myself and my friends. One of the greens went with his family to the usa (programmer). Everyone else lives here. They apply to the Russian Federation and other countries, because they earn little in the Republic of Belarus (it seems quite clear). Loans are much more expensive than in the Russian Federation even. The wife is currently paying for one place where we live with two children (she took it at 36% per annum). You never dreamed of such interest, right?
What exactly at whose expense? A column lined up at my house on Dzerzhinsky Ave. I also went out and stood. Then the riot police traditionally dispersed them. They just stood on the sidewalk, no one shouted or waved. Such is the silent form of protest forgive the authorities. Are you willing (or someone) to pay me for this?
At the moment, the courts impose fines (and 15 days) with the wording (had the intention of disobeying the police). Do you understand, yes? HAD AN INTENTION. Here is such a court "impartial". Everyone is already sick of this chaos, for which the Belarusians are slower and more patient than the Russians.

[iouris]

Quote: minipig79

what the Belarusians are slower and more patient than Russians.

There is no difference - one people.

[Alex Justice]

The wife is currently paying for one place where we live with two children (she took it at 36% per annum).

I paid 4.2 percent for 30 years.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: kepmor

who would doubt it ... of course better ...
I just would like to hear from you at the expense of this banquet ...
and why are Belarusians "from paradise" to us and the Poles in droves to earn money ???? ...

Go and ZZ hero came to us for dates, and not cut down the babyshka, on the fast. ”They say that they even have contracts for work in Belarus.

[hagen]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

yes social sphere there is better than ours.

And it is possible in the form of a plate comparison on social networks? Then these are no longer just empty words. This is already .. with arguments ..

[Ether]

Let's see how your "mosaic" after the elections differs, let's take a look at the social program.

[Kart]

Quote: shoroh

The two-faced Lukashenko is disgusting.

But for example Zelensky is just an example of honesty.
This is a kindergarten, shouting that someone there is disgusting.
# vote with your heart, yeah.

[newcomer]

I hope that the Belarusian security officers and special officers have studied the methods of the Ukrainian well. Maidan.

[Ilshat]

The KGB of the USSR was much more professional than the small-town potato sharazhniki ...
And where is the USSR?
Will not help...

Everything is determined by the masses, if there is a real mass character - any special service will sit quietly on a broom.

[newcomer]

This is what I chalked up to_ to study countermeasures. And the mass character was different: depending on how to point the camera.
And the task of the special services is to block the sources feeding such a mess, and the militia is fighting the mass.

[Ilshat]

Nope, cameras won't help either
There is a picture and there is not really.
When in reality: study, do not study - but everything is useless.

[newcomer]

On the Maidan, they showed from 200000 to 2000000 people. Experts have proven that it is physically unrealistic to place so many people on the Maidan.

[Ilshat]

What am I talking about?
The picture is not essential.

[newcomer]

Somehow I did not enlighten: so essential in your opinion, Ali how?

[Ilshat]

Oh, if there are problems with reading, I can’t help, alas ...

[newcomer]

It’s clear_ there’s nothing to talk about.

[Ilshat]

Well, of course, look above.

[newcomer]

Continuing your thought _ and?

[minipig79]

The source that feeds the mess is a barbel. Feeding 26 years old.

[Kart]

Well, that is, if the "people" overthrow him, then order and prosperity will immediately come?
Somewhere I recently heard this, in a former country.

[Revival]

That is, according to your logic, for example, no criminal should be punished, since what he has done cannot be corrected, and after him a criminal may still appear?
So?

[Kart]

That is, according to your logic, you can call anyone you want to be a criminal. The main thing is to shout about it loudly and in a crowd.

[Revival]

I gave you an abstract example, not a specific culprit, since you argued that:
"Well, that is, if the 'people' overthrow him, then order and prosperity will immediately come?"
That is, there is no point in changing it, since the only meaning is if "paradise" comes from this, and since this does not happen, then why change.
Here I am asking your second time, and what, for example, according to your logic, a criminal should be judged only if the person killed by him comes to life because of this? And if not, what is the point of judging now?
So?

[Kart]

There is a state. It works. And far from the worst way.
There is no killer "whose victim cannot be resurrected."
But if this state is killed (which you probably want), then indeed, it will be impossible to resurrect it.
It's only by your logic that he is a murderer.
Killer of what? Whom?
I will ask you again - how many% of the population agree with this definition?

[Revival]

You seem to be quite tight with analogies !?, I did not write about him, that is, Lukashenka and the situation in Belarus at all.
The example was abstracted from the specifics in order to highlight the flawed "logic" of your comment.
But judging by the negative increase in the speed of your thinking, such constructions are too complicated for you and even possibly harm your health, therefore, out of the best wishes for you, I have to stop this discussion due to its revealed futility ...

[gost2012]

Quote: Revival

You seem to be quite tight with analogies !?, I did not write about him, that is, Lukashenka and the situation in Belarus at all.
The example was abstracted from the specifics in order to highlight the flawed "logic" of your comment.
But judging by the negative increase in the speed of your thinking, such constructions are too complicated for you and even possibly harm your health, therefore, out of the best wishes for you, I have to stop this discussion due to its revealed futility ...

it's a troll, it's wrong to talk to him

[Revival]

You are absolutely right, I think so myself and wrote about it to others. But now, I could not resist))
And, I can notice that this is a thankless task, more and more highlights the tendency that trolls look more and more helpless and stupid, against the background of the surrounding reality

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Carte

There is a state. It works. And far from the worst way

If you call stable rotting work, then you are right. Everything works nowhere more stable.

I DO NOT want to live in a country where a drunken lawless person kills 4 children and gets 7 years old, where a bureaucrat who killed a comrade on a hunt will not only get back a weapon, a warm place, but also will not serve a single day. will end up in a punishment cell. For clapping your hands. By bike. Where passers-by are kidnapped in broad daylight by people without uniforms. Where from the state office you are immediately packed into a paddy wagon in the courtyard. Look, they dared to go to their will with a complaint.

Where people are consistently called nonentities, they are jailed and beaten for standing in line.
Where billions of dollars are taken annually to pay off old debts and the president's wishes.
Where, during a pandemic, bureaucrats, in addition to lying, also dare to offend deceased doctors, and those who dared to tell the truth about the state of affairs are thrown into the streets.

Is it stable? Of course, we consistently break through the bottom.

[svp67]

Quote: Ilshat

Everything is determined by the masses, if there is a real mass character - any special service will sit quietly on a broom.

Everything is determined by the ability of the elites or their opponents to manage any social process.
The KGB of the USSR, the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, the Armed Forces of the USSR ... these were powerful and completely manageable structures capable of crushing any resistance with adequate leadership, but the latter just did not exist ...

[Ilshat]

Well, of course it wasn't, and it couldn't be!
The secret services do not work with Mujahideen, but careerists!
It's one thing to overclock a dozen, and quite another when there are millions of the same behind thousands ...
Maybe a response can come in the form of a large-scale revolution.
And this is scary.
Therefore, in case large-scale special services are useless, they run and hide.

[svp67]

Quote: Ilshat

Therefore, in the event of large-scale events, the special services are useless, they run and hide.

Oh ... any "large-scale events" are easily choked in the bud ... and the special services have a great experience in this.

[Ilshat]

If it were possible, there would be no disturbances in principle.
Nonsense full.
In principle, no special service is capable of neutralizing the consequences of economic miscalculations.
Remember - there was such a Bobkov, 5th management - sold out to the oligarch.
And it would seem ...

[svp67]

Quote: Ilshat

Remember - there was such a Bobkov, 5th management - sold out to the oligarch.
And it would seem ...

Here ... the keyword is ... SOLD ...

[Ilshat]

That's what I'm talking about - it happens always.

[stalkerwalker]

and the special services have excellent experience in this ...
Maidan showed that there are traitors there too.
If Lukashenko survives this election, I will be very surprised.

[Kart]

If he does not survive, then the state is over.
And yes, this is a dress rehearsal of a script that was developed for ourselves.

[Revival]

And what then is done almost nothing in our country to eradicate the Causes?

[Kart]

Why did you decide that?
It's just that the methods are not at the beginning of the 20th century, so you simply cannot send anyone to 101 kilometers.
So there were no color revolutions then in this form.

[Revival]

So I decided that I did not see.
Where we have dispersed the aligarhs, where we have everything for the people, where we have confiscated yakhi and palaces, and so on.

[Kart]

There is both.
Well, not all of them, really, and I look at the confiscated yachts and palaces not presented.
I'll tell you a secret - and they won't give it to anyone who confiscates it, even the most honest fighter for people's happiness.
They will take everything for themselves.
And then you will sit at your broken trough of the revolution and ask - how did it happen? we are for all the good, sincerely ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Revival

Where we have dispersed the Aligarhs

so there Furgal is attached to the bunk .. no?

Quote: Revival

where we have confiscated yakhi and palaces, and so on.

do not follow what is happening at all. a law has already been passed on the confiscation of property and funds from accounts if their origin cannot be confirmed in the framework of income declarations.

Quote: Revival

where we have everything for people

and this is how to do with the rest?

[minipig79]

Yes, take it to yourself and prosper, got it already!

[Kart]

Why take it? I am on my own, he is on his own, governing the country.
But I won't let any housewives kill him.
Do you need it?

[gost2012]

Quote: stalkerwalker

and the special services have excellent experience in this ...
Maidan showed that there are traitors there too.
If Lukashenko survives this election, I will be very surprised.

Very likely to survive. Because the final figure has already been announced, 72% in the first round, the vote count itself does not affect the results in any way. On August 10, the head of the CEC, Yermoshina, will congratulate AGLA on a victory in the range of 70 ... 80% in the first round.
Then there is only acceleration, if someone takes to the streets, an indicative landing of the Tikhanovskaya team and the most distinguished ones.
And if a lot comes out, Agl is ready to shoot. The troops are drawn to the regional cities and are determined to open fire if the order comes. At least - at the level of senior officers, as the letekhi and majors with regiments see it - no one knows.

[Revival]

That is, according to your logic, everything is under control there?
And what is happening there is not even a "fetus"?

[Servisinzhener]

There are all kinds of people everywhere. But by the time of such unrest, people usually are in power who are only capable of doing nothing.

[Ilshat]

I do not agree.
They are capable of a lot, but they act rationally, in the interests of their own survival and well-being.

[hagen]

Quote: svp67

The KGB of the USSR, the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, the Armed Forces of the USSR ... these were powerful and completely manageable structures capable of crushing any resistance

I don’t think that straightforward pressure determines stability in the state. It is necessary to solve something else from the problems of the people. To begin with, you need to at least see them (problems) and imagine ways to solve them. After all, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB is a significant part of society, living in the same problems as the rest of the population.

[Courier]

Your professional KGB of the USSR profiled the country

[Ilshat]

Wow!
But the former and current employees of his and the successor service are now "new nobility"!
For them, the exchange is just wonderful.

[Nemo]

And you do not admit the thought that the AHL is tired of the people? Even in small towns there were 2-3 thousand people, or were they all paid for?

[Kart]

Like, "again you put this caviar for me!"
Tired of it how? Mug didn't come out, or what?
Do you want something new, like lace European panties?

[Nemo]

We have been stagnant for 26 years, something new is not due to the power, but in spite of it appears

[Kart]

Something itself appears only contrary to common sense in long talkative languages ​​on the Internet.
What do you want new? Real capitalism? So he's not like that at all. as they tell you about it.
Socialism? so you won't be allowed to build it, they won't even start.
Everything that you are promised now is a complete lie. And it is not done for your prosperity.

[Nemo]

We are now also not a welfare state, no matter how much and where they talk about it. I am personally tired of all this window dressing, also when the president climbs where he does not understand. He even calls his people a people. Now, in general, you’re doing power, people came to apply to the KGB, they all riot police packed in a paddy wagon, and some were also slapped 15 days for an unauthorized mass event. Do you think this is normal? If for AHL, as they say, 78%, so why is he so afraid of people.

[Kart]

Not afraid.
How many% went to the rallies there?
This is also not a welfare state, for example, China. There are no pensions at all, and no one gives out free housing with work. (well, that is, they distribute, but you would not agree to live and work like that).

They came to apply.
How did you come, on a visiting day, and a polite line just formed?
Or when they themselves wanted a crowd, with posters and shouts?

[Nemo]

For a long time, no one and no one has given out free housing to us.
They came calmly without shouting, slogans, on the reception day, there was a usual line. And those who were imprisoned in general came when they had already packed everyone. The most interesting thing is that the police are witnesses in the court. Now all millionaires have video recorders and the court refuses to take into account any video recordings in the case.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Carte

and there was just a polite line?

https://news.tut.by/society/694505.html

Enlighten yourself.

[minipig79]

How do you know who is telling me what? I see here a couple of people from the Republic of Belarus who personally know the situation in the country. So who are you to tell the people of the country how to live in it? Do you want me to teach you how and what to do with your wife?

[Kart]

What, undermines?
This is your whole point, "fighters against the regime." Anger, hysteria and narrow-mindedness.
Therefore, you will lose.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Carte

Therefore, you will lose.

and even if Lukashenka loses the election

[anjey]

Syabry, do not follow the example of Khokhlomaidan, the western foreign country will not build paradise for you, well, perhaps a small paradise in exchange for Russophobia

[svp67]

Quote: anjey

Western foreign countries will not build paradise for you, well, perhaps a small paradise in exchange

For those who "stir up" this, this is quite enough ...

[anjey]

Well, yes, for the pro-Western "elite".

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: anjey

well, perhaps a small paradise in exchange for Russophobia

And then only for the very elite ...

[minipig79]

Take this mustachioed miracle for yourself, let the next 26 years lead the economy to the financial institution, collect loans around the world, while explaining that all troubles are to blame for the hurricane.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: minipig79

Take it for yourself

He was offered, but for some reason he did not want to.
True, his name was along with the whole of Belarus ...

[minipig79]

Her. Let's take one of him. I've wanted all my life that RB would eventually become part of the Russian Federation. Brought up on love for Russian (mother from Sergach). But now I don't want to. And comrades who are interested in this topic do not want to either. I don’t want to see a fur store in my country. And I don’t want to read how colonels with huts filled with dough are being arrested. And I'm pro-Russian. You can guess what the inhabitants of the Brest and Grodno regions, who live well, think for the most part. And Mogilev and Vitebsk are traditionally poorer. Any guesses why?

[Kart]

What's wrong with the economy?
Hungry Belarusians blocking roads and banging their hats outside the government house?
Guys, you still don't know what democracy is in the European way. How the capitalist economy works in relation to the colonies.
Your entire social network will be immediately cut down to the root. Ask the Sumerians what it is like.

[minipig79]

I don’t remember that hungry serfs in tsarist Russia would block the roads and knock with their hats. Did you live well? Our paddy wagons quickly rake in the queue of people just standing in the store (oh what violators), what can we say about real protests. How it works and what in Europe, let me judge those who went there, and not by your conjectures and inventions. In the same Poland, elections were now. At the polling stations, votes were counted from ALL CANDIDATES. The current president won with a score of 51%. Those. 49% of Poles did not support him, but everything is fair, everything is calm.
And about the social sphere. My mother worked in the garden for 5 years as a watchman (born 1953), because you can wipe yourself off with your pension.

[Kart]

Quote: minipig79

I don’t remember that hungry serfs in tsarist Russia would block the roads and knock with their hats. Did you live well?

The serfs, not only knocking their hats, could not leave the landowner without permission. Well, if you don't know.
And it was 150+ years ago.
But in Russia in the 90s they were knocking, though not they, but the miners.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: minipig79

I don’t remember that hungry serfs in tsarist Russia would block the roads and knock with their hats.

well this is due to your low level of education otherwise they would have known about the peasant riots. there is not something that knocked and burned all nafig. Pushkin's estate for example. have you heard about Emelyan Pugachev?

[anjey]

And by the way, release the Russian hostages of your dark games, they were not going to overthrow anyone in Belarus, someone well wants to play on the soreness of Russophobia, that's who? Again the West "helped" ???

[Nemo]

The psychosis of one president, not the west

[Poetry]

And dad listens and eats.
The biggest question is: who counts the votes?

[svp67]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

The biggest question is: who counts the votes?

Does anyone even consider them?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: svp67

Does anyone even consider them?

Yes, everything has already been calculated, only the protocols remain to be signed

[Kart]

About how!
Did you really hold a candle while writing?
Or from the Internet "true 100%"?

[gost2012]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Poetiszaugla

The biggest question is: who counts the votes?

Does anyone even consider them?

The most correct question
result - Agl in the first round 70 ... 80% for.
they will count, but this is so, an academic ritual, has nothing to do with the results

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

The biggest question is: who counts the votes?

Well, we know who. In total, the commission is allowed to include up to 12-15 people per site, the need was about 72000 people. Applications - 56000 kopecks.

From the initiatives of "Honest People" and nominees from the people passed ... a dozen. From 10.000 submitted applications.
Now the observers have been slaughtered, the independent will not be allowed in. And they brought in their own even before the date of the official submission of documents for accreditation.

[Alexander X]

Everyone thinks that another owner will come and they will eat and sunbathe in the Bahamas instead of working. But they are wrong! There are no good hosts. The system must be changed from capitalist to socialist. Then only the workers will be under the control of the state ... And it will be to each according to his needs, and from each according to his ability ... And then a woman climbs into power!

[minipig79]

And what about the woman? Or are you a fagot and women are somehow inferior to you? Due to the impossibility of changing the system, we all live today in conditions of wild capitalism. Well then, worship the talented male managers in the person of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. I also hear the current ageless person being "supported" by friends and relatives in the Russian Federation.

[Kart]

Nothing woman. Only she, at least in the slightest degree, should be able to manage. Well, that is, experience of working in government agencies should be.

Imagine a plane is flying, and you are in it among others. And suddenly these others do not like the pilot - he is flying in the wrong direction and in the wrong way, his face is crooked, and generally tired, you don’t love him anymore.
So let's put someone in his place.
- I, I will! - shouts a woman from the 3rd row.
- do you know how? - some of the passengers are interested.
- No, but I will study! The most important thing is that I am for you, for the passengers, I love you all!
- Well, then of course it's another matter - dissatisfied with the pilot are singing in chorus. - Now we will pick it up and, on the wave of popular love, we will put you in a chair

[minipig79]

Stupid comparison. And here's the correct one:
1) The plane has been flying for 5 years, sat down. Vote, who is this pilot?
2) ....
3) ...
Has passed 26 years.
4) The plane landed. Who is this pilot? Yes, only nasty, riot police, police, officials at the trough. The pilot constantly leads the plane wherever he was hit by the boss, and not where the passengers need it.
FUCK THIS PILOT!

[Kart]

Where did he sit? In your head?
Flies to itself ... bye.
And of course, this comparison is for the smart ones, so go ahead.

[Veleslav17]

So that's the point. Tikhanovskaya will give the elections we want to be held. Maybe Belarusians and communists will choose. You don't know that. And the mustache leaves no choice at all. Soon, only military KGB fighters, cops and bureaucrats will receive salaries - the rest will eat up horseradish without salt.

[Kart]

Quote: Veleslav17

Tikhanovskaya will give the elections we want to be held.

No.
Tikhanovskaya "will give" to hold the elections, which the sponsor wants, and her, and all this project of power change.
And the "people" will again be made fools. So it was everywhere and always, during any revolution or coup.
You don't think you are special, do you?

[Veleslav17]

Well, you think you are special ??? Or was Putin chosen by the people themselves?

[Annihilator]

Yes, Putin was chosen by the people! Only because of the monitor you cannot understand this, because you do not live in Russia, you only read manuals!

[minipig79]

Along the way, this is the notorious IT company. It makes no sense to discuss at all.

[Kart]

The song of the group "Lenindrad" "Road" to your road.

[Kart]

Quote: Alexander X

There are no good hosts. The system must be changed from capitalist to socialist.

The owners won't care. Only socialist.
The USSR has demonstrated by its collapse that these masters are worthless.

[gost2012]

Quote: Alexander X

Everyone thinks that another owner will come and they will eat and sunbathe in the Bahamas instead of working. But they are wrong! There are no good hosts. The system must be changed from capitalist to socialist. Then only the workers will be under the control of the state ... And it will be to each according to his needs, and from each according to his ability ... And then a woman climbs into power!

a woman does not climb into power. Her entire program is to abolish the Aglov Constitution, where he has an absolute monarchy, and to hold new elections right away.
And no one expects what will be better - change is always a difficult time, but you cannot continue living with gangrene

[General failure]

I wonder if she plays the piano?
If so, what?

[Alexga]

Exactly! Elections of "Belarusian Zelensky"!

[Kart]

He plays the flute.

[ork_333]

Tikhanovskaya is a "talking head" used by real opposition forces from abroad. She is going to hold re-elections later, but does not even think about how much money will have to be spent on it and where to get it. At the moment we do not have a sane candidate for the presidency. All this podzabornaya riffraff did not even bother to draw up a more or less intelligible program of their presidency. Common phrases, confused thoughts and no specifics. In addition, the majority of Vitebsk and Mogilev regions do not like slogans about "raising the nation", opening Belarusian schools (even if the usual ones were built to begin with), dissociation from Russia and friendship "with everyone."

[minipig79]

Where are you from and where do you live that you write such nonsense? What is the rise of the nation? You and the adik have not beguiled anyone? It's about squeezing out of oneself drop by drop a slave, on whose neck a mustachioed miracle has been riding for 26 years. About the solidarity of the population, which for once began to tear its backside off the sofa. About overflowing the cup of patience even among pensioners (my mother is 68).
As for the re-election. Ermoshkina voiced $ 20 million. Announce the cost of maintaining all residences (Belarus is such a huge country that you can't drive in a day and you can't live in one place). Announce the cost of maintaining the president's security (to be afraid that the people's love would not crush). Announce the cost of the Boeing bought by the mustachioed from the Turkmenbashi. Announce the cost of maintaining all ice rinks in regional centers (nafig no one needs, I say for sure, at least using the example of Baranovichi).
Seriously, $ 20 million is an unbearable amount for a country where the Novopolotsk and Mozyr oil refineries have no right to sell their products abroad on a direct basis, without the mustachioed gaskets-firms?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: minipig79

Announce the cost of maintaining the president's security (to be afraid that the people's love would not crush).

Actually announced for 2018/19 .... $ 19 million annually. Here is the savings.

[Veleslav17]

that is, all the Belarusians who were in Minsk on the square yesterday - an empty space for you ??? And don't be the stars - I'm from Mogilev and there is nothing about the rise of the nation in the speeches of Tikhanovskaya's team. And you muddy the water talking your head.

[Kart]

Quote: ork_333

She is going to hold re-elections later, but does not even think about how much money will have to be spent on it and where to get it. At the moment we do not have a sane candidate for the presidency.

It cannot be, since sponsors have a different goal. Namely, to overthrow the pro-Russian government, and arrange something like the former Ukraine.
What will be there, and who does not matter at all. With enough money and smart specialists, you can do anything a "president", even a clown.

[Aleksandr56478]

It is nonsense that Lukashenka himself did not allow the pro-Russian candidates to the elections, because did they have sooo much support from the population? (Tsepkalo, who is now forced to hide in your country and Babariko, who is sitting with his son in prison)

[Kart]

There is no Russian scheme for the change of power in a neighboring country (if there is such a scheme at all) and can hardly be compared with the same Soros and other technologists from the United States. Not in terms of depth of study, nor the most important thing in terms of financing.
So if Lukashenka loses now, it means that the United States has devoured another country.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Carte

Quote: ork_333

She is going to hold re-elections later, but does not even think about how much money will have to be spent on it and where to get it. At the moment we do not have a sane candidate for the presidency.

It cannot be, since sponsors have a different goal. Namely, to overthrow the pro-Russian government, and arrange something like the former Ukraine.
What will be there, and who does not matter at all. With enough money and smart specialists, you can do anything a "president", even a clown.

Commander ?, further along Lavrov ...

[rocket757]

So, okay, that's their business ... it's just obvious that the ideals of "dermocracy and freedom" are not as tasty as it seemed to someone before!

[minipig79]

Thank you for your common words (that these are our deeds). What does dermocracy and freedom have to do with it? The requirement for an honest vote count (the CEC does exactly everything that would make it impossible to control the count).

[rocket757]

We can't see how the counting will go ... but about ideals, this is out of habit, it's the same everywhere, the standard.

[Kart]

Judging by the heat on the Internet, and the number of "protesters", they were still poured into their heads about the taste of "real ideals of freedom."
Like, are you eating bread and butter right now? This is a pitiful handout from the regime!
Roll it all up, and you will eat bread and caviar. one hundred%

[rocket757]

Do you live there? Do you know what kind of bread and butter they eat?

[Kart]

Normal oil, tasty.
But this is all "in spite of" of course. This is all done in secret cellars by a hungry people in spite of the tyrant.

[rocket757]

What we tried was normal ...
But at the expense of ... it only happens in fantasies, all sorts of different.
But all this is so, verbal balancing act.
One thing is eternal and immutable, not a single power will hold out if it does not suit the citizens in any way and in nothing.
In general, they themselves, they will figure it out, and drive all the advisers in the neck or with a kick.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

One thing is eternal and immutable, not a single power will hold out if it does not suit the citizens in any way and in nothing.

yah? and what did not suit Gaddafi's government, for example?

Quote: rocket757

In general, they themselves, they will figure it out, and drive all the advisers in the neck or with a kick.

go some have already figured it out in 2014 .. of course themselves, only themselves

[rocket757]

Quote: SanichSan

yah? and what did not suit the government of Gaddafi, for example

Direct external intervention is not the option.

Quote: SanichSan

oga some of them already figured it out in 2014 .. of course themselves, only themselves

So you yourself should understand. Can you suggest something differently?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

Direct external intervention is not the option.

and where have you seen otherwise?

Quote: rocket757

So you yourself should understand.

as? do they live somewhere on another planet? somewhere where there is no Russia and the United States? in a vacuum, separate from the rest of the world? the sentence "must figure it out" is equal to "put at the disposal of" partners "" by the way, the partners are already there in full. Look at the photo. under the flags of the Natsiks with promotional flags, stage, sound, the rest of the printing ... at whose expense the banquet? seems to me not for Russian and you suggest not to interfere with them?

Quote: rocket757

Can you suggest something differently?

sure! we need a pro-Russian candidate with an appropriate program. you need to learn how to finance such a project and learn how to properly respond to cries of interference in internal affairs.
the situation is idiotic. they shoot at us, and when we try to answer, they start shouting "aaa! You can't shoot! Only killers shoot !!!", we don't answer and they shoot at us again ...

[rocket757]

The "pro-Russian" candidate has already been ... that's how I remind you.
And now the conclusion .... I don’t want to discuss different fantasies of sales, YOURSELF.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

And now the conclusion .... I don’t want to discuss different fantasies of sales, YOURSELF.

you do not want? want to shout "aaa !! Belarus is completely lost !!!"? Ukraine is not enough? rake dancing as a lifestyle? interesting concept

[rocket757]

I calmly remind you that not only the extreme, but also a bunch of others, former fraternal ones, departed from us!
Simple question - WHY ???
Do you want to continue in the same spirit? Or it's time to start using the head as intended.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

I calmly remind you that not only the extreme, but also a bunch of others, former fraternal ones, departed from us!

excuse me, what do you mean by "othalilcha"? "Maskalaka for Gilyak!"? do you want to say that in all the republics that fell off during the collapse of the USSR, fiercely Russophobic sentiments and leadership?

Quote: rocket757

Simple question - WHY ???

"WHY" "mask for gilyak!"? because 5 lards for "developing democracy"... not? did not hear? or will we continue to ignore the obvious?

Quote: rocket757

Do you want to continue in the same spirit? Or it's time to start using the head as intended.

this should be addressed to you. just (!!!) they also profiled Ukraine, and right there are gifted strategists who declare "no need to interfere! no need to resist Russophobic propaganda. no need to prevent a pro-Western group on Western funding from climbing into power." ARE YOU SERIOUSLY??? can you really use your brain and think about what the coming to power of those Natsiks who are in the photo to the article under the white and red flags will lead? if it doesn't finish right away, write in Google "Ukraine about Russia" and try again.

[rocket757]

Deal with your violent imagination yourself.
Nothing new to me, nothing interesting.
The question is - list the successes of the modern Russian leadership, they would like to be in the surrounding, as they say, the post-Soviet space. If you find it, you can tell me if I missed something.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

Nothing new to me, nothing interesting.

a world limited by a refrigerator? well .. also an option

Quote: rocket757

The question is - list the successes of the modern Russian leadership, they would like to be in the surrounding, as they say, the post-Soviet space. If you find it, you can tell me if I missed something.

were you looking for something? what do you want to say? that sausage didn't appear in your fridge because of the fact that nuclear power plants in Belarus are being trodden?

[rocket757]

Quote: SanichSan

nuclear power plants in Belarus?

yes, a lot of where they build, for money ... not for their own, that's for sure. Denyushki will pay when they don't, if they don't throw off again and again, debtors and denyushki bye, bye.
A weak example ...... although the "vigorous" energy we have the most, the most!

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

yes, a lot of where they build, for money ... not for their own, that's for sure.

of course if you suddenly missed something, then the USSR was destroyed and now Russia is a normal capital country and acts like a capital country. to understand what in this context means "not building on their own money" read about how the IMF works and what loans are
PS
I never wrote that we are white and fluffy. I am writing to you that if we do not take, then others will. there is no option "no one will take it and the country will remain independent and in itself". NOT AT ALL!

[rocket757]

A simple question - who gave the loan to Rosatom for the construction of a nuclear power plant in Belarus, in Turkey ...
A simple question - and "we" can take, if "our" rich Buratins, for such "impudence" their foreign "partners" threatened to shorten their tails, up to their ears ???
What world are you living in? Where do such illusions come from?
We have not nationalized the "elite", it is more than half local, in spirit and the presence of soft seats there, where they, from here, are not measured in straws !!! Moreover, next to that straw, there is always a local sheriff, an accountant, a prosecutor, and just an arsonist with matches !!!
There are many more factors, reasons, etc. that you ... don't want to know, take into account.
Everything, I'm tired of carrying out an educational program. It's time for you to go to school to study.
As a parting word ..... WE need to make our country strong, truly independent, rich, so that it is for its people and he, feeling this, was for her. Then it will be possible to do CASES, large and small. And the neighbors themselves will reach for us, only for the present ........

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rocket757

A simple question - who gave the loan to Rosatom for the construction of a nuclear power plant in Belarus, in Turkey ...
A simple question - and "we" can take, if "our" rich Buratins, for such "impudence" their foreign "partners" threatened to shorten their tails, up to their ears ???

olo! already 2020 in the yard! I understand if you wrote it in 2014, it’s not known how it will go, but now it’s 2020! "Our rich" have both tails and ears in revenge despite all the howls from across the ocean and from the EU. WHAT ARE YOU ABOUT???

Quote: rocket757

What world are you living in? Where do such illusions come from?

throughout our discussion, I have this question about you

Quote: rocket757

We have not nationalized the "elite", it is more than half local, in spirit and the presence of soft seats there, where they, from here, are not measured in straws !!! Moreover, next to that straw, there is always a local sheriff, an accountant, a prosecutor, and just an arsonist with matches !!!

strange .. looking at the map .. Crimea is still in Russia, on the Kuriles instead of the Japanese flag there are Russian military bases, the Turks got the S400 in, in Venezuela they did not let Guaido be installed, and so on. how so? not really a Masonic conspiracy to fool ordinary readers of the VO?

Quote: rocket757

There are many more factors, reasons, etc. that you ... don't want to know, take into account.

what facts then? Bulk template that "our elite has everything abroad"? not ashamed to repeat the same nonsense for schoolchildren ignoring what is happening around? six years already happening! SIX!!! but no. the experts continue to play the same old record Have you ever wondered why, given such a confrontation with the West, the mythical accounts of Putin and the oligarchs are still not blocked? why is the Russian economy still not "torn to shreds" as the monkey promised? have you tried to think with your head? not? right ... why think when you can throw a ready-made trash from the manual ...

Quote: rocket757

Everything, I'm tired of carrying out an educational program. It's time for you to go to school to study.

do not be rude. this pathos only aggravates the nonsense you wrote above

Quote: rocket757

As a parting word ..... WE need to make our country strong, truly independent, rich, so that it is for its people and he, feeling this, was for her. Then it will be possible to do CASES, large and small. And the neighbors themselves will reach for us, only for the present ........

tin .. understandable. for all the good against all the bad. these are the USSR and pissed away and now they are raving about the "state for the people" ...
liked the neighbors in 1941 already reached .. for real! no kidding! ate waved it off ... but no, some have history 2.
you, the theorists of kung fu, need at least to find a candidate alternative to Putin, not a clown like Grudinin. the country they are going to build .. bright future for all all all .. without getting up from the couch. There is no money, no power, no knowledge necessary, no support from the population, but now just how they will take it, but how they will build it!

you do not want to think, ignore the facts, I see no point in further discussion.

[rocket757]

You don't answer SIMPLE, SPECIFIC questions, one blah, blah, blah ..... nonsense.

[Inorus]

But somehow the detention of the "militants" did not help, something went wrong with the AHL))

[Vadim237]

Lukashenka still needs to come up with militants - an entire PMC division will detain blacks from all over the world; mercenaries will be invited to potato fields, and upon arrival in Belarus they will be dressed in camouflage and arrested.

[Alien From]

But father will only leave the power with his feet, what kind of elections are there ......!

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Alien From

But father will only leave the power with his feet, what kind of elections are there ......!

I wonder what bookmakers say on this issue?

[Alien From]

One hundred to one that this "comrade" will be at the helm)

[1536]

It is bad when the future of the country depends on the choice of one or another candidate. It turns out to be some kind of casino, so the chance to win is minimal. However, this is just a screen, a motley decree, behind which those who are striving for power, who come to it, will not allow any dissent in the bud. When will people in the post-Soviet space understand this?

[minipig79]

You are an idealist. That's when the criminal liability of the ex-official for the promises made publicly before the voter is introduced by law, when an independent court will have the opportunity to put a thief and a monster in prison with confiscation of all the assets of his family and relatives, then it will not be a screen. Remind, when in the post-Soviet space at least one supreme monster was tried as is judged in South Korea? Moreover, South Korea does not rank at the bottom of the list in terms of living standards and development of technologies.

[Mikhalych]

I suppose that dad not only got Russia, but also Belarusians. Although I will give advice to Belarusians:
1. "Don't look for paradise in the west. Ukrainians have already found it and are now fighting for it until it disappears completely."
2. Do not trust those who promise you freedom. They themselves are slaves to Western money and their passions.
3. Do not rock the boat if you have something to spread a piece of bread.
Finally, an anecdote for Western fans:
One man got to heaven. He walks on the clouds, plays the harp, sings songs. But I got bored after a while. Asks his guardian angel:
- Where can you have fun?
- In hell.
The door opens, the righteous man sees - there they smoke, drink, women, fun, music plays. Began to ask for hell. They allowed him to go there for a week. He went off, was glad, came off. Came back to paradise. Again - clouds, harp, songs ... I got bored again. Began to ask to exchange heaven for hell. Guardian angel:
- Think, my son, this is forever.
- It's okay, I want to go there.
He signed an agreement on the transition to hell, which has no claims to heaven, he will not ask back. As soon as he entered hell, the devils jumped up, put him in a frying pan, began to fry, torment. The man cried out:
- How so? Where are the women, wine, music?
- Eh, dear! Some conditions are for tourists, others for emigrants.

Remember !!! Nobody is waiting for you here and will not kiss you.

[Alexga]

Bravo! Very accurately said!

[babylon]

This handful of people who are powdered with the brains of provocateurs are insignificant in comparison with the people of Belarus

[Kart]

Are you talking about yourself, bot?

[Veleslav17]

a handful of???? these are those who could come. There is no one in the circle of friends who would be for Lukashenka. Only a godfather - so he is a police underground - he has no day in the service))). You have all the provocateurs ... They would have changed the record already.

[babylon]

Destroy and Criticize all the masters, and if the Belarusians do not come to their senses, they will remember for a long time the "dad" as the Libyans of Gaddafi

[Kart]

That's it.
But this insignificant handful is enough to destroy the state. With the right guidance and funding, of course.
And there is no doubt about that.
Many people still remember the example of Libya. There was social sphere, which no one dreamed of in any country, and structure, and education with medicine ... But nothing helped, they managed to destroy it.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Carte

But this insignificant handful is enough to destroy the state.

Duc is still in the public domain. we write in Google "coups organized by the CIA." there are examples and techniques. everything is openly described
and here under the flags of the Belarusian Natsiks and under the slogan "for all the good, against all the bad." economic program? social program? program in foreign policy? not! what for? goes to the presidency for her husband so that there are fair elections! go crazy .. it's hard to come up with a more lengthy program ...
who can support this?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: vavilon

This handful of people who are powdered with the brains of provocateurs are insignificant in comparison with the people of Belarus

You are right about the state. the authorities put it!

[askort154]

Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, a candidate for the presidency of Belarus, speaking at the rally, stressed that she was going to the presidency for the sake of her husband and the Belarusians ...

It looks like a "pocket" opposition. Belarusian "dog girl"? Brothers Belarusians, enlighten. Or have the Internet been shut down for you?

[minipig79]

First, watch the video on what reason her husband was imprisoned 2 months ago. Why is she forced to take the children out of the country. And then think about who she looks like.

[Annihilator]

What kind of shishi do her children live behind the cordon? Honest wife of an honest official ??? Honest pionnrskoe or swear by mom ???

[Revival]

And what is this impeccable marker of payment and purchase, if children live outside the cordon?

[babylon]

Looks like a paid political - w ..... x
And her husband is just her PR

[Kart]

Well, like, "I'm with our, Belarusian people!" and I do everything only for his sake, we are brothers and sisters, dear Belarusians.
This is such a veiled nationalism.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Carte

This is such a veiled nationalism.

Have you looked at your constitution for a long time? You have just like that appeared there.

[gost2012]

Quote: askort154

Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, a candidate for the presidency of Belarus, speaking at the rally, stressed that she was going to the presidency for the sake of her husband and the Belarusians ...

It looks like a "pocket" opposition. Belarusian "dog girl"? Brothers Belarusians, enlighten. Or have the Internet been shut down for you?

Not pocketable. Not politics at all. Her husband got into politics, he was shut down. She "picked up the banner that fell from her hands." She was told - think about children, if you are not afraid for yourself. She thought the children were hidden. The husband is not released from the punishment cell. Either he hasn't shaved, now there is a spider web in the corner, etc. Pressed. Sewing several cases at once - and disorder and coup, etc. There is no texture at all.
Tsypkalo fled when information came about the impending detention, along with the children.
Babariko was the main candidate - he was the first to be closed down when he took the signatures to the CEC. He has collected nearly half a million signatures. I don’t believe that he was pro-Russian. They shut him down, his son and all his inner circle. They tried to make it toxic.
Tikhanovskaya was admitted as a candidate, they hoped that children and the press would keep her husband in jail in check. She's just a housewife, they didn't believe that she could raise people. Then the headquarters united, that's where these 3 women came from - one headed the destroyed headquarters of Babariki, the second wife of the escaped Tsepkalo, also helped him in the elections, and Tikhanovskaya.
From such an unlimited power, the people simply went berserk, everyone is drowning for Tikhanovskaya - cotton wool, and svyadom, and hard workers, and pennies. Anyone, if only not Agl. This is a bit like Zelensky and Gunpowder, but only this.
Really - the people seriously do not want Agla to continue. And Tikhanovskaya is a very courageous woman, her balls were more abrupt than many here. And most likely, if it survives on August 9, then it will be closed for organizing riots following the elections. Children will be found and demanded from the Russian Federation, and, as promised, they will be shoved into the orphanage.
So it goes.

[Tank jacket]

A clown, a horse, a "simple" housewife, who else will the opposition propose for the presidency?
For everything good (Constitution of 1994) Against everything bad ...
Suggesting Darth Vader or
Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccona

[Veleslav17]

How you dislike Russians when the people themselves can choose the government. You always needed a shepherd, then a tsar, then Stalin, then Putin. Aren't you bored? We ourselves like to live without choice - so don't prevent others from having the right to choose.

[babylon]

The problem is that you Belarusians don't know what you want.

[babylon]

Name at least one country in the world where the people choose power?

[Courier]

My respect for Belarusians. They see beautiful Poland and of course want the same standard of living

[Servisinzhener]

And Ukraine threw off its evil power 6 years ago why is not an example of a standard of living for Belarusians?

[Kart]

The Ukrainians have also seen beautiful Poland.
How are the results? How is it already, or still have to wait 100 years?

[babylon]

And what kind of Poland are we talking about?)) Poles envy Belarusians

[Kart]

And it is necessary that would be the opposite.

[Boris55]

Interestingly, there are still people in the World who do not know what such symbols (fist) of the country lead to?

[Tank jacket]

Boris, greetings, this is Soros's registered trademark ... Can he demand royalties from Tikhanovskaya?

[Kart]

If he is a sponsor, then only the requirement to use it as widely as possible in the business for which he pays.

[Annihilator]

Or is he a sponsor and patron of this madmazelka ??? Another country is being prepared to be torn apart!

[minipig79]

Interestingly, there are still people in the world who do not know what the clinging to the throne for more than two decades with blue fingers leads to?

[Sklendarka]

Quote: minipig79

Interestingly, there are still people in the world who do not know what the clinging to the throne for more than two decades with blue fingers leads to?

Are you talking about Pinochet Ali Ceausescu ???

[Boris55]

Quote: Skalendarka

Are you talking about Pinochet Ali Ceausescu ???

Surely about Merkel

[Tank jacket]

Or maybe Comrade Xi Jin Ping? Or maybe the queen of the shaved ones, who
.... "Englishwoman Gadya" ... (c).

[Kart]

They are good, real democracy and all that.
As is known, only 2 dictators remain on the way to the happiness of mankind.
How can you tolerate this?

[Veleslav17]

And what symbol did you need a butterfly? Portrait of Lenin? or the sun ??? What they took and took.

[Annihilator]

Of course, all this, as well as the fist symbol, is a coincidence in the opinion of lovers of lace panties and the EU.

[Revival]

Soros sign? So he sponsored the socialist revolution in the 20th century?
And they said the USSR ...
There was often such a trunk.

[babylon]

The two-finger symbol means that the people will be instructed by the horns

[certero]

Quote: Ilshat

And where is the USSR?

The USSR was betrayed by the very top.

[prior]

No meeting, even the most massive one, is capable of re-electing and replaying the CEC.
And the CEC is not appointed by the president in order to elect just anyone who has applied for candidates, even if they shout for him at a rally.

[Azimuth]

Old Man is not Yanukovych. Will not go to Rostov. The EU and the Russian Federation will have grandmothers. Oh, and the batch is planned.

[minipig79]

Well, in this you are right. But if the frog did not flounder, it would simply drown in sour cream.

[Veleslav17]

They do not shout - they support the people's candidate Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. Your toads are screaming near your house.

[prior]

Yes, you at least lick your adored Tikhanovskaya from head to toe, my post was not about her and not in relation to this rally, but about the fact that the results of the vote will be announced by the CEC, and no rally will change these results.
Calm down, comrade. Do not create an idol for yourself, so as not to regret later.

[babylon]

Means toads and yelling

[Kart]

Such a meeting is done only to seed events. In the process, riots break out, the authorities must react, and this is an additional reason for "indignation". Then there are victims, and rushed.
And there already nothing to prove or explain to anyone.
The authorities will have only 2 ways. Either harshly and uncompromisingly press all of this, despite the casualties, or hide under a bench (as in the former Ukraine).
In either case it is bad, but the second option is much worse.
Such a simple diabolical scheme for the destruction of countries. And no nuclear weapons or aircraft carriers are needed.

[parusnik]

In short, whoever wins, gas will definitely rise in price for the Russian consumer ...

[Kart]

Of course, our "regime" is generally the bloodiest in the world.
Many people here cannot wait for it to collapse.

[Annihilator]

Especially prussnyak and others like them, of which there are about a dozen! And each of them will be detained for six months and paid after another year. In chunks, percentages, shares for each month, it does not matter. Better yet, to deprive the job and explain that this is for the good of democracy and the turnover of the president :)))

[Sklendarka]

Quote: parusnik

In short, whoever wins, gas will definitely rise in price for the Russian consumer ...

... and gasoline.

[Annihilator]

You do worry about Lukashenka, not Furgal and Putin, troll!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

read the program and biography of this young lady
honestly speaking horse is better
I have not worked in a leading position for a day, but have spent the last 15 years sitting at home with children
the young lady's program is something with something, for all good versus all bad
most tsimes in the program cancellation of distribution
https://tsikhanouskaya2020.by/moya_programma/
Belarusians will not politician so they will choose the cook

[Kart]

All the same, representatives of the United States will sit in power, if they succeed of course.
And in this case, the "president" of the aborigines should be as stupid and worthless as possible, unable to understand in principle what a state is and how to govern it.
Then he will never think about possible injustice, or about the people. Only the immediate execution of the instructions of the owners.

[Romka]

Well, the founder of the IT park in Belarus is not Tikhanovksky, but Tsepkalo. Otherwise, practically it is.

[minipig79]

I wrote about Tsepkalo.

[Kart]

Teach your mother Ukrainian.
Reader.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: minipig79

If you understood what you are trying to talk about now, you would know:

remind me when we drank broodershaft?

Quote: minipig79

Her husband, the founder of an IT park in Belarus, was running for presidency.

and if her husband was a surgeon, she would rush from the stove to the operating table ?!

Quote: minipig79

Against the top three candidates

I actually did not discuss them THREE characters were condemned Lukash, a talking horse and a housewife who decided that she could be the head of state

Quote: minipig79

a) Tikhanovsky was imprisoned for a wildly delusional reason, which is clearly visible on the video (5 meters from him, the provocateur pushed a policeman, they put Tikhanovsky);
b) Babariko was locked up in jail BEFORE THE COURT and was not registered as a candidate (which is against the law !!!);
c) Tsepkalo was warned that they were also going to plant him (he left with the children in the Russian Federation).

in elderberry garden
I somewhere discussed the reasons for the withdrawal of candidates ?!

Quote: minipig79

Tikhanovsky's wife was forced to become a banner against the inevitable

I repeat, but if the surgeon was imprisoned illegally, she would go to hack his patients, do not shake nonsense

Quote: minipig79

GO READ BEFORE YOU GRUNT WHAT YOU DO NOT HAVE A DECISION ABOUT!

you, my friend, watch the language, otherwise you will forget that you are not in tyrnete and will arrive unexpectedly in the grundle

[Sanichsan]

Quote: minipig79

If you understood what you are trying to talk about now, you would know:

Duc already know. there is a link to her election program above. haven't you read? do you support the candidate here without even familiarizing yourself with her election program? are you normal

[Romka]

The current president has a really low rating (I live in Belarus). A receiver was supposed to be presented this year, but it was not, and now it is very likely that we could have a rough time. The West does not recognize the results for any reason (it is clear who will win), with Russia it is still dull. The last option remains: full unification with the eastern neighbor.

[cniza]

Quote: Romka

The last option remains: full unification with the eastern neighbor.

It looks like everything is moving towards this, but Lukashenka will fight to the last ...

[Sklendarka]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Romka

The last option remains: full unification with the eastern neighbor.

It looks like everything is moving towards this, but Lukashenka will fight to the last ...

Yes, no one is going to fight and he is playing in a black slam, not touching ...

[cniza]

I spoke about Lukashenka and the helmet won't save him ...

[Annihilator]

Is it muddy or understandable with your eastern neighbor?

[APASUS]

I have a very bad attitude to Lukashenka’s tricks, but there are a lot of positive results in his work. I don’t know the Belarusian opposition at all, BUT WHAT WAS THROWN IN THE EYES:

Belarusians are bored of the riots, want Ukrainian democracy?

Symbols of color revolutions. All these symbols have the same legs, and judging by the way it is all printed, the opposition has money directly from the United States.

[Veleslav17]

because the fist has always been a symbol of struggle. And this symbol is just in plain sight lately. That's why they chose. And we have three symbols. And you clung to your fist.

[APASUS]

Quote: Veleslav17

because the fist has always been a symbol of struggle. And this symbol is just in plain sight lately. That's why they chose. And we have three symbols. And you clung to your fist.

Yes, we are aware of your technologies and what symbols indicate where they come from. How much does the stage cost, equipment rental and production printing
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/simvoly-tsvetnyh-revolyutsiy-v-sostave-ih-imenovaniy/viewer
We read how the peasants, outraged by the tyranny of Assad, threw themselves on MLRS systems, tanks and a couple of thousand carts with machine guns.
We saw how from 2-15 thousand outraged by the lawlessness of Yanukovych, the inhabitants of Ukraine stuck out all winter in the square and their grandmothers were fed with pies.
Then the truth is Clinton herself said about how they invested 5 billion ...................................... ...... to democracy

[Annihilator]

I hope dad will strengthen the KGB and your pack will be sent to sew mittens!

[Revival]

Increase literacy (at least to the level of Wikipedia) so as not to write nonsense ..

"Rot Front (greeting)

(Gesture on a poster of the Madrid Defense Council, 1937
Rot Front (German Rotfront from Rote Front - red front) - international greeting).
History
Used in Germany since the end of the 1920th century as a working greeting. After the First World War, the gesture symbolized belonging or solidarity with the German Rot Front, created in the early XNUMXs. Its members greeted each other, thrusting their right hand sharply upward with a clenched fist. The organization's badge was a clenched fist.
In Germany, when Hitler came to power in 1933, it became extremely dangerous to use the greeting. "

Look ka soros probably organized everything 130 years ago ...

[Captain Nemo]

the color of British uniforms and the familiar coat of arms of the Rothschilds, the financial international, the invisible hairy hand of the market ...))) Many military experts who returned from Spain were condemned as Trotskyists.
Well, the first symbol is just a stone heart.)

[cniza]

According to many analysts, Lukashenka will not let other candidates win the presidential elections, somehow removing them from the list of candidates.

Almost no one doubts this ...

[iouris]

The number of people gathered is not an indicator. How many people in the United States will gather for rallies during the election campaign? Besides, what program does this opposition have? The lack of opportunities to implement any program is the main indicator. I think that regardless of who wins in Belarus, her fate is probably sad. Its economy will not fit into the new technological order. It will be the same as in Ukraine - the destruction of the Soviet economy with all the ensuing consequences. Alas and ah!

[yfast]

Quote: Nasr

There was boredom, now the people take the most direct part in the government !!!

As taxpayers.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: APASUS

I have a very bad attitude to Lukashenka’s tricks, but there are a lot of positive results in his work. I don’t know the Belarusian opposition at all, BUT WHAT WAS THROWN IN THE EYES:

Belarusians are bored of the riots, want Ukrainian democracy?

Symbols of color revolutions. All these symbols have the same legs, and judging by the way it is all printed, the opposition has money directly from the United States.

Friendship, why didn't I remember Spain, but Pasaran, they won't pass.
And Chile-Vansoremus.
So during my beautiful youth it was a powerful gesture.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Skalendarka

So during my beautiful youth it was a powerful gesture.

well, before the swaston was a cabalistic symbol

[minipig79]

Dear Belarusians. Do not waste your time and nerves on posts to Kartu (Stepan). At best, this is a deluded inhabitant of a neighboring country. The most likely case is the notorious IT company or simply the KGB. An adequate person will not write such a heresy about a country that he has not been to and does not know how things are.
LET'S EFFORT FOR CLEAR CHOICES. Everyone is scared, I have a maternity wife and daughters (3,5 and 0,9 years old) at home. I am one breadwinner in the family. Yes, I'm afraid to fly home from work. But if we are just afraid, nothing will ever change.
Dear Russians. Before giving critical advice to your good neighbor, first try to figure it out at home. In recent years, you personally have turned me away from the unification of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation. I don't want Belarusian Chubais-Seagulls-Miller-Rottenberg-Zolotov-Putin-Nabiullins and others. You yourself cannot drive out your cockroaches with a filthy broom, so do not rush to advise others on how best to act. Then in the countries around you there will be a less bright degree of Russophobes.
Sincerely, Denis.

[Kart]

Dear "Belarus".
Those like you are already looking for with flashlights those who need. If you and your friends think that nothing is being done, then this is a mistake.
It is being done.
And I really am not an IT company (by the way, what is it? Is it like you?), And not just the KGB.
Here you are, and people like you want to destroy the state. and I and people like me are against destruction. Accordingly, they want to stop people like you.

Take care of your family, they need to be fed. Didn't drink the branch on which you sit.
No opposition just won't give you money.

[minipig79]

How does a stubborn (in the civil service) know what and who is doing where in MY COUNTRY (you are like a Russian here)?
People like me watched the collapse and subsequent plundering of a great country. Therefore, leave your horror stories about war and destruction to fools, I do not need either war or destruction. All my life I have been connected with construction, i.e. build and build.
PS / I don't see any sense in throwing beads (to answer you) ...

[Kart]

"Road" gr. "Leningrad"
you can find the link yourself

[Annihilator]

0,9 years is how many in months-years? The pseudo-Belarusian opponent of Lukashenko and Putin complains about life, but does not want to go to work. It's easier to work as a troll in tyrnete on a foreign uncle :)))

[Kart]

0.9 years old is bot-pale.
A living person in his right mind will never write that. We, Belarusians, Russians and Ukrainians, say 9 months.

[minipig79]

Quote: Annihilator

The pseudo-Belarusian opponent of Lukashenka and Putin complains about life, but does not want to go to work. It's easier to work as a troll in tyrnet for a foreign uncle :)))

Oh, another one the other day zaregeny jumped out. How much is paid in the service? Probably more than teachers or doctors.
I work in a construction department. This is a sore topic, it is a shame that quite a few Russians are poorly versed in our realities and make a wrong judgment.
And people like you, ghoul annihilator, in front of my eyes beat the teenage girls with clubs on the head just because they dared to stand in the square. But you don't have a penny of conscience. You are ready to devour the one at whom your mustachioed master points with your finger.
But remember the ghoul, after death we will give all the answer. And your "..I just followed orders .." will not work. You will not be forgiven!

[Kart]

But your pants are full of conscience.
Look, more accurately, "builder-Belarus".
Do not say later that you were not warned.

[Kart]

Okay, thank you all for the discussion.
It's time to go to work, catch the opposition.

[dgonni]

no matter how crazy it sounds, but for Belarus in this period of time, you need to choose dad. Moreover, it is legitimate!
If not, then the Belarusians will attack themselves and declare a civil war, like in Donbas.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: dgonni

but for Belarus in this period of time, you need to choose a father. Moreover, it is legitimate!

Take it for yourself, let it reign. First, to one region. Let's see in how many years even the oil industry will start to decline.

[Gennady Fomkin]

It is high time to throw them out of the CIS.

[Swed]

Oh, and a noble "srach" you have arranged here. An hour went by while I read all the comments. What caught my eye:
1. For some reason, many of the program of candidate Anna Kanopatskaya attributed to Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. Yes Kanapatskaya said that she would sever all ties with Russia, etc., but she has 0.1% support for Belarusians. Tikhanovskaya does not have a program as such, since she officially announced that she would not be President of the Republic of Belarus, but there would be re-elections. Therefore, in case of her victory, first of all it was necessary to read Babariko's program.
2. The Belarusians must understand that the masses cannot rule and any situation, even the most peaceful, can be used by third persons (other countries). And Belarus can easily cease to exist, or slide into a semblance of civil war (security forces, because they are the same citizens). This is far from a fact, but such a possibility is quite possible.

Well, type of argumentation, it is better to endure, otherwise it will be worse, etc. - this is from the category, there is a god or not, you can argue forever. And someone else wrote that in Belarus they think that if Lukashenka is removed, paradise will come, this is not true. Over the years, some have managed to accumulate so much debts, despite the fact that Russia practically gave billions, turning a blind eye to many things (solvents, shrimp, etc.) that great-grandchildren will have to pay them.