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US Mars mission launched from Cape Canaveral cosmodrome

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US Mars mission launched from Cape Canaveral cosmodrome

The United States sent its Mars mission to the Red Planet. The Atlas V launch vehicle launched today from the Cape Canaveral launch site. The launch of the mission was broadcast by NASA.


According to the website of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the rocket launched at 07:50 US East Coast time (14:50 Moscow time). The Mars exploration rover Perseverance is scheduled to arrive in Mars orbit on February 18, 2021.

As previously reported, upon arrival at the Red Planet in February 2021, the rover is to land in the vicinity of the Yesero crater on the equator of Mars.

The rover itself is a six-wheeled science laboratory the size of a small car, which cost about $ 2,5 billion to create. Dimensions: length - about 3 m excluding the mechanical manipulator arm, width - 2,7 m, height - 2,2 m. The rover's weight is 1 kg.

The device is equipped with seven scientific instruments and an Ingenuity helicopter capable of making five short-term flights at an altitude of about 10 meters. The main objective of this mission is to collect and study the properties of sedimentary rocks in order to search for microorganisms that prove the existence of life on the Red Planet in the past.
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  1. dvffbbf
    dvffbbf 30 July 2020 15: 57 New
    63
    Well done, good luck with your Mars exploration.
    1. Infinity
      Infinity 30 July 2020 16: 03 New
      37
      I join in the congratulations! As I already wrote on VO, this is a great July for humanity - three missions to the Red Planet! First, the Arabs with their orbital "Al-Amal" ("Hope"), then the Chinese with their "Tianwen-1" ("Questions to Heaven") and now, the Americans. The only pity is that the launch of the second stage of ExoMars was postponed to 2022, and so there would be 4 missions. But Mars 2020 with this rover and helicopter is the most interesting of all. Most of all scientific equipment, an excellent successor to the work of its predecessors! And of course Ingenuity! The first atmospheric aircraft in history outside the Earth, capable of performing, albeit short, but not jet-powered flights.

      Start-up video:
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 30 July 2020 16: 15 New
        -20 qualifying.
        On OUR rd-180!
        1. kris_67
          kris_67 30 July 2020 17: 49 New
          +1
          It doesn't smell like your RD-180
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 30 July 2020 18: 00 New
            +1
            Sniff again:

            https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/34019217-9ED4-45A6-9ED6-B2AC8504C53D.jpeg

            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 30 July 2020 21: 58 New
              +7
              Quote: military_cat
              Sniff again:

              https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/34019217-9ED4-45A6-9ED6-B2AC8504C53D.jpeg


              The rights to sell rd 180 in the USA belong to rd-amross, and the rights to rd 180 itself, despite the fact that NPO Energomash is produced, belong to pratt & whitney, because they financed its development. So, not our rd 180, but their rd 180, produced in the Russian Federation
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 31 July 2020 06: 05 New
                -6
                Nothing prevents you from making the RD-ABVGD, which differs only in nuts and a nameplate, and doing anything with it. And this is not even my idea, because Roskosmos has already announced the creation of the RD-180MV for its projects.
        2. slipped
          slipped 30 July 2020 19: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: military_cat
          On OUR rd-180!


          91st successful flight for the Russian RD-180 engine (No. 105T) laughing
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 30 July 2020 18: 05 New
        18
        Quote: Infinity
        it's a great July for humanity - three missions to the Red Planet! First, the Arabs with their orbital "Al-Amal" ("Hope"), then the Chinese with their "Tianwen-1" ("Questions to Heaven") and now, the Americans. The only pity is that the launch of the second stage of ExoMars was postponed to 2022, and so there would be 4 missions. But Mars 2020 with this rover and helicopter is the most interesting of all. Most of all scientific equipment, an excellent successor to the work of its predecessors! And of course Ingenuity! The first atmospheric aircraft in history outside the Earth, capable of performing, albeit short, but not jet-powered flights.

        I agree with you, great July for Mars missions, but black for our scorpion and his trampoline. In the meantime, when the world is developing by leaps and bounds, we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.
        1. slipped
          slipped 30 July 2020 19: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Malyuta
          we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.



          Oh li lol

          Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" in anticipation of braking Europe with its parachutes and rover laughing

          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 30 July 2020 19: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: slipped
            Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" waiting for Europe, which has braked with its parachutes and rover, laughing

            I just knew that Geyropa would stick sticks in our Martian wheels, ugh to them in the drawbar.
            It is necessary for the "Kozachka" to urgently fly independently, otherwise the "window" will close and you can hit the firmament.
            Batutych, "from the screw"!
            1. slipped
              slipped 30 July 2020 20: 08 New
              -11 qualifying.
              Quote: Malyuta
              It is necessary to "Kozachka" urgently fly independently


              Fly to the next window, Russia has enough instruments in Mars orbit now. laughing
              1. UserGun
                UserGun 30 July 2020 22: 23 New
                +7
                Quote: slipped
                Russia has enough instruments in Mars orbit now.


                That Russia has enough ?! Define us, please!
                1. slipped
                  slipped 30 July 2020 22: 59 New
                  -3
                  Quote: UserGun
                  That Russia has enough ?! Define us, please!


                  ACS (Atmospheric Chemistry Suite) - a set of three infrared spectrometers for studying the chemistry and structure of the atmosphere of Mars. It can also receive images of the Sun necessary for better analysis of solar-eclipsing data in the infrared range. Involved in the search for methane, which is emitted by possible Martian life forms.

                  FREND (Fine Resolution Epithermal Neutron Detector) is a neutron detector for detecting the presence of hydrogen from the surface to a depth of 1 meter. It allows you to locate the location of water ice near the surface.

                  This is what concerns purely Russian devices. And so Russian scientists receive information from the entire complex of instruments of the TGO probe, the joint project "ExoMars" with Europe, to the antennas of the center of long-range space communications. This also applies to the camera.
          2. Angelo Provolone
            Angelo Provolone 31 July 2020 00: 27 New
            +2
            Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" in anticipation of braking Europe with its parachutes and rover

            The main thing is to properly sprinkle with holy water. otherwise the fate of Phobos-soil will befall
            1. slipped
              slipped 31 July 2020 03: 15 New
              -5
              Quote: Angelo Provolone
              The main thing is to properly sprinkle with holy water. otherwise the fate of Phobos-soil will befall


              The main thing is to try to pass for a knowledgeable empty comment. laughing On the topic, that is, what can I say? laughing
        2. Machito
          Machito 30 July 2020 21: 05 New
          12
          Polovtsy and Pechenegs Mars unnecessarily, as well as Tereshkova. Give her medals for zeroing and give her money.
          One can only rejoice at the successes of our sworn friends, at least someone thinks about science.
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 July 2020 21: 22 New
            -1
            Quote: Bearded
            Polovtsy and Pechenegs Mars unnecessarily, as well as Tereshkova. Give her medals for zeroing and give her money.
            One can only rejoice at the successes of our sworn friends, at least someone thinks about science.


            As the US Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan noted, the long-term fruitful cooperation of our countries in the field of space exploration is an invariable and extremely important component of US-Russian relations.

            The study of the Red Planet also takes place with a long-term collaboration between American and Russian scientists on NASA's "Martian" projects.

            Russian scientist Igor Mitrofanov and his colleagues from the Institute of Space Research (IKI RAS) have created the DAN neutron detector, which is located on board the Curiosity rover.

            In collaboration with NASA, Igor Mitrofanov and his colleagues have created a HEND high-energy neutron detector for NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft.

            An enlarged version of DAN is called FREND (High Resolution Epithermal Neutron Detector).

            FREND is currently working aboard the Trace Gas Orbiter spacecraft, which is part of the ExoMars expedition launched in 2016 jointly with the European Space Agency. Two more ADRON neutron and gamma-ray detectors will operate in orbit and on the rover during the next ExoMars expedition in 2022.

            1. Machito
              Machito 30 July 2020 21: 24 New
              +6
              Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 July 2020 21: 25 New
                -13 qualifying.
                Quote: Bearded
                Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA


                No - NASA is working as a cab. lol
                1. Machito
                  Machito 30 July 2020 21: 29 New
                  +3
                  Quote: slipped
                  Quote: Bearded
                  Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA


                  No - NASA is working as a cab. lol

                  We are giving them our high-tech instruments to be installed on their rovers. Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments? laughing
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 30 July 2020 21: 30 New
                    -9
                    Quote: Bearded
                    Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments? laughing


                    Do not study. They are sealed laughing And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.
                    1. Machito
                      Machito 30 July 2020 21: 33 New
                      +4
                      Quote: slipped
                      Quote: Bearded
                      Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments? laughing


                      Do not study. They are sealed laughing And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.

                      Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover? And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.
                      1. slipped
                        slipped 30 July 2020 21: 39 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Bearded
                        Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover?


                        So they didn't dig something, so, under strict guidance .... in the sense they were standing next to me. laughing

                        Quote: Bearded
                        And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.


                        They won't understand anything anyway. laughing Vaughn ULA passed all the complete documentation for the RD-180 in the XNUMXs. And they again flew away on our engines. lol Not figured out visible.
                      2. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 30 July 2020 22: 03 New
                        +3
                        Quote: slipped
                        Quote: Bearded
                        Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover?


                        So they didn't dig something, so, under strict guidance .... in the sense they were standing next to me. laughing

                        Quote: Bearded
                        And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.


                        They won't understand anything anyway. laughing Vaughn ULA passed all the complete documentation for the RD-180 in the XNUMXs. And they again flew away on our engines. lol Not figured out visible.

                        So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney, and production in the Russian Federation is cheaper, you can not pay much labor
                      3. slipped
                        slipped 30 July 2020 22: 06 New
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                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney,


                        The ULA website clearly states who owns what. laughing Go read it. The main and most of the patents for engines are held by the Russian Energomash. By the way, the development and release of design documentation for the RD-180MV engine is now underway for the Russian rocket.



                        Don't know English? read the wiki.
                      4. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 31 July 2020 01: 11 New
                        +2
                        Quote: slipped
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney,


                        The ULA website clearly states who owns what. laughing Go read it. The main and most of the patents for engines are held by the Russian Energomash. By the way, the development and release of design documentation for the RD-180MV engine is now underway for the Russian rocket.



                        Don't know English? read the wiki.

                        Energomash has patent rights, no one argues, but there is no right to sell to anyone other than the United States)) Because on some patent rights the light does not converge like a wedge)
                      5. slipped
                        slipped 31 July 2020 02: 57 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        but there is no right to sell to anyone other than the United States)) For on some patent rights the light does not converge like a wedge)


                        And who is going to sell them to someone? belay As I said above, they will be produced for our new missiles, as they finish, under an American contract. Moreover, the cost is much cheaper than the current ones.
            2. UserGun
              UserGun 30 July 2020 22: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: slipped
              And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.


              And what kind of supervision is this ?! With a squint))))
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 July 2020 23: 02 New
                -3
                Quote: UserGun
                And what kind of supervision is this ?! With a squint))))


                there is a version that the plutonium-238 on this rover is Russian. laughing
              2. UserGun
                UserGun 31 July 2020 00: 10 New
                +7
                What can I say! All rovers are assembled in Russia, yes! ))) Americans are stupid! Here I read your vigorous shmal and now I understand that Russia does not need a war to be conquered. A certain number of "patriotic" slippers is enough.
              3. slipped
                slipped 31 July 2020 02: 51 New
                -6
                Quote: UserGun
                What can I say! All rovers are assembled in Russia, yes! )))


                You said it, not me. laughing

                Maybe you know whose plutonium-238 he has in his RTG? Earlier, the United States bought plutonium-238 from Russia for five years - the total amount of the transaction for the entire time amounted to $ 57.3 million for 40 kilograms of the isotope. According to the specialists' calculations, the purchased material should have been enough for more than thirty years.
              4. Roman123567
                Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 28 New
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                Maybe you know whose plutonium-238 he has in his RTG?

                This is how it always turns out .. and they have someone's plutonium .. and their engines .. and devices are not their own ..
                But they are flying !! Not us ..
                This is called - trust a fool a glass device .. well, further in the text ..
                And then we can only make excuses that the world-famous AMERICAN Curiosity - yes, without our plutonium, but nowhere ..

                $ 57.3 million for 40 kilograms of the isotope. The purchased material, according to the calculations of specialists, should have been enough for more than thirty years
                What is 57 million for thirty years for the United States .. Ugh !!
                And for Russia ?? Even less .. A couple of houses, and a small yacht ..
                Projects that simply do not have a price .. it is still hard to believe that theirs rovers have been roaming there for years .. And we are counting 57 million ..
                I don't understand how one can be proud of this
              5. slipped
                slipped 31 July 2020 12: 10 New
                -2
                Quote: Roman123567
                That's how it always turns out .. and they have someone's plutonium .. and their engines .. and devices are not their own .. But they fly !! Not us ..


                So this is their launch then. laughing We are flying in 2022, to the next window.

                Quote: Roman123567
                And then we can only make excuses that the world-famous AMERICAN Curiosity - yes, without our plutonium, but nowhere ..


                Are you making excuses? laughing Our DAN device is on Curiosity, which gave interesting results.

                Quote: Roman123567
                I don't understand how one can be proud of this


                Something is wrong with you at the conservatory. Our planetary Mars station has already been completed and is waiting for the European rover, which is to be delivered to Mars.
            3. Maxwrx
              Maxwrx 1 August 2020 23: 33 New
              0
              For your information, this time plutonium is purely American, in 2015 they began to synthesize it again.
            4. slipped
              slipped 2 August 2020 00: 28 New
              0
              Quote: MaxWRX
              For your information, this time plutonium is purely American, in 2015 they began to synthesize it again.


              where does it say "purely American"?
            5. Maxwrx
              Maxwrx 2 August 2020 00: 33 New
              0
              here is an example https://meduza.io/feature/2020/07/30/nasa-otpravlyaet-na-mars-novyy-rover-perseverans-on-esche-kruche-chem-kyuriositi-iu-nego-est-nastoyaschiy- dron I was wrong, since 2012
            6. slipped
              slipped 2 August 2020 00: 40 New
              0
              Quote: MaxWRX
              https://meduza.io/feature/2020/07/30/nasa-otpravlyaet-na-mars-novyy-rover-perseverans-on-esche-kruche-chem-kyuriositi-i-u-nego-est-nastoyaschiy-dron


              It is very contradictory, they write that to reduce the cost, they used a spare RTG from the Curiosity program (and there was Russian plutonium), then suddenly they have American plutonium ... and the data on kilograms and the time of the start of production in this article are incorrect, and the link to Is there an English-language resource with confirmation?
            7. Maxwrx
              Maxwrx 2 August 2020 10: 09 New
              0
              When a RTag is a spare, it is not filled. What is the contradiction here?
          2. slipped
            slipped 2 August 2020 01: 09 New
            0
            Aha found it. Medusa lied as usual. laughing NASA's Mars rover Perseverance has received a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG) with plutonium-238, produced in Russia and the United States, Spaceflight Now reports.https: //lenta.ru/news/2020/07/24/perseverance/
          3. Maxwrx
            Maxwrx 2 August 2020 10: 07 New
            0
            There are articles in English where it is written that it is purely American. This tape is just the bottom.
          4. slipped
            slipped 2 August 2020 11: 27 New
            0
            Quote: MaxWRX
            There are articles in English where it is written that it is purely American. This tape is just the bottom.


            The tape is the bottom, but it links to the respected Western resource Spaceflight Now. I was not too lazy and went to read, it turns out that since 2015, the United States has produced only one and a half kg of plutonium-238, and the rover needs about five. Therefore, they simply mixed their own and our plutonium, which they previously bought. Something like this. I repeat - this is according to a respected Western source.
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  • sd.vf9
    sd.vf9 31 July 2020 00: 54 New
    0
    I killed my friend, I already watch this video 100 times drinks what. for photoshop
  • shinobi
    shinobi 31 July 2020 05: 08 New
    -7
    Go to America, nobody holds.
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 31 July 2020 17: 17 New
    0
    It is unpleasant to look at the priest and the rocket. Everywhere they stick their nose, money doesn't smell.
    It is unpleasant that officials encourage obscurantism.
    1. Mikhalych
      Mikhalych 1 August 2020 12: 29 New
      -1
      It is unpleasant to look at the priest and the rocket

      DO NOT LOOK! Take care of your health.
      drinks
  • Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 1 August 2020 12: 27 New
    -1
    we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.

    Malyuta, why do you associate the Middle Ages with obscurantism? Then the perverts were impaled and rightly so. Then people believed in God, and now people like you lead the mip to death. The USSR (Russia) carried out 50 missions to Mars about 4 years ago. True, it is more productive to find a heart between a woman's legs than life on Mars.
    bully
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 July 2020 18: 22 New
    +3
    Yes! I hope that in the promised year and a half I will admire messages, photos and videos from the Red Planet!))
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 July 2020 18: 29 New
      +8
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Yes! I hope that in the promised year and a half I will admire messages, photos and videos from the Red Planet!))

      What prevents you from doing this now?
      4K video based on thousands of images from the Curiosity rover

      1. Mikhalych
        Mikhalych 1 August 2020 12: 32 New
        0
        Something the horizon strongly resembles the earthly one. Mars is almost half the size of Earth and the horizon should be different.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 1 August 2020 13: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Mikhalych
          Something the horizon strongly resembles the earthly one. Mars is almost half the size of Earth and the horizon should be different.

          Optical distortion introduced by optics yes You, by the way, did not notice that the colors in the video sometimes differ from the "purely Martian" ones that carry only shades of red ...

          And this happened because of the "tint" of the video in order to better define the relief and the boundaries of the blasts ...
          1. Mikhalych
            Mikhalych 1 August 2020 21: 19 New
            0
            I don't know about the apple trees that will bloom on Mars, but the Americans found a gopher there. See
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKThyARU1Ww
    2. awdrgy
      awdrgy 30 July 2020 21: 12 New
      +2
      And I hope that you will not have to run from some Martian microorganisms that "accidentally" escaped to freedom)))
  • Alanart
    Alanart 30 July 2020 20: 58 New
    0
    And how does he, a helicopter, fly there, or rather, will it fly? In the same atmosphere - the cat sneezed, 6 mbar, or less
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 30 July 2020 22: 20 New
      -2
      Quote: Alanart
      And how does he, a helicopter, fly there, or rather, will it fly? In the same atmosphere - the cat sneezed, 6 mbar, or less


      For this reason, it is jet-powered. The resource is limited for several flights.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 30 July 2020 22: 46 New
        +2
        For this reason, it is jet-powered. The resource is limited for several flights.
        And then what is in it a helicopter? If it's jet-powered?
  • Lumumbo
    Lumumbo 30 July 2020 16: 06 New
    11
    Well here I wish the USA good luck! Oh, if everyone could unite in space programs and forget all the strife and wars .. Maybe the station would already be on Mars, etc. !
    1. Mikhalych
      Mikhalych 1 August 2020 12: 34 New
      0
      Eh, if everyone could unite

      If only a woman. ... ...
      laughing
  • Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 30 July 2020 16: 29 New
    -27 qualifying.
    Quote: dvffbbf
    Well done, good luck with your Mars exploration.

    What benefit to us from the success of another nation

    No matter how smart / talented others are - all their merits are crossed out by one circumstance - this is another nation

    All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this. "Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"
    1. A.TOR
      A.TOR 30 July 2020 16: 59 New
      24
      With the achievements of the West, you received the Internet, a computer, an iPhone, effective medicines, modern, safe cars, effective and affordable technologies for mass housing construction and ... almost everything that surrounds you every day.
      By the way, diapers, toilet paper and, sorry, feminine hygiene products.
      However ... you can also wipe with the Pravda newspaper. Or even a burdock ...
      1. Zeev zeev
        Zeev zeev 30 July 2020 17: 56 New
        +3

        However ... you can also wipe with the Pravda newspaper

        You can't wipe yourself with the Pravda newspaper.
        In the newspaper Pravda there is a portrait of the leader.
        1. A.TOR
          A.TOR 31 July 2020 11: 23 New
          +2
          THE OTHER PARTY IS POSSIBLE
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 30 July 2020 20: 38 New
        -1
        And ruined states don't count!
      3. stalki
        stalki 30 July 2020 20: 55 New
        0
        And from the achievements of Russian scientists, the world received: television, telegraph, incandescent lamp, electric engine, parachute, color photo, monorail, electric car, laser, artificial heart, Mendleev's table, alcohol and much more ... A lot. So I'll wipe my iPhone, I'll leave the Internet, okay, the computer too laughing laughing laughing
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 30 July 2020 21: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: stalki
          So I'll wipe my iPhone, I'll leave the Internet, okay, the computer too

          Not a bad choice wink
        2. A.TOR
          A.TOR 31 July 2020 11: 27 New
          +1
          It would be strange if such a large country, with such difficult conditions of existence, requiring constant "consideration", would not give the world much. \ However, the point is, WHO and HOW introduced achievements into everyday life.
          Here, Russia is not very much
      4. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 30 July 2020 22: 30 New
        -5
        With the achievements of the West, you received the Internet, a computer, an iPhone, effective medicines, modern, safe cars, efficient and affordable

        Therefore, they will never consider Russians as equals.

        We, in turn, will never admit that the West is right. We were born in Russia and we are the best nation. Just for one fact that she is mine. Everything else is side

        Take everything from the west, and don't give anything in return. Until we learn to do everything better than them
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 49 New
          0
          Мы, in turn, will never admit that the West is right. Мы were born in Russia and we is the best nation.
          Don't speak for everyone ..))
          I know for sure that I'm no different from an American .. it just scattered us once in different parts of the world .. And so, we are all the same .. and we even had common grandfathers ..))
          This discord with the nations is beneficial exclusively for the rulers to stay in power .. and the hamsters are being led to it ..
        2. A.TOR
          A.TOR 31 July 2020 11: 17 New
          0
          Take everything from the west, and don't give anything in return. Until we learn to do everything better than them

          Over the past 300 years, this has been happening. Something not really ...
      5. UserGun
        UserGun 30 July 2020 22: 31 New
        +3
        It is useless to say this to those who use in everyday life not only what you have sparingly listed, but also the words that they use every second in communication and do not even think about their origin.
    2. mdsr
      mdsr 30 July 2020 17: 03 New
      26
      Quote: Santa Fe
      What benefit to us from the success of another nation

      What benefit do you mean? Cash? Well, you can't get it from exploring the Universe. But you can get and get the real, true value - KNOWLEDGE. From such knowledge, the collective knowledge of humanity is formed. Would you, having closed in your nation, know a lot about the Universe and about other Galactics today, if not for the legendary Hubble telescope? And soon a new, much more powerful telescope, James Webb, will fly into space. We, humanity, will witness new, amazing discoveries of our world.
      Quote: Santa Fe
      all their merits are crossed out by one circumstance - this is another nation

      Rave. Where would you be and who would you be if not for Galileo Galilei, Newton, Albert Einstein, Jim Hawkins and thousands of other scientists from other nations?
      Quote: Santa Fe

      All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this.

      Tell me, how does the discovery of the existence of life on Mars billions of years ago harm you?
      Quote: Santa Fe
      "Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"

      You cannot stoop so low in your ignorance. So it is close to Nazism. It is necessary to fight against such vices. By the way, millions of Russians also live abroad. Humanity must exist independently of the existence of individual countries or nations. It is a matter of competition, rivalry, natural selection that has existed as long as there are living organisms on Earth. During this time, billions of different types of living organisms have disappeared, including some nations and tribes of people.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 30 July 2020 22: 34 New
        -1
        Rave. Where would you be and who would you be if not for Galileo Galilei, Newton, Albert Einstein, Jim Hawkins and thousands of other scientists from other nations?

        There is a legend

        If not for the Holocaust, many important discoveries and inventions would have occurred decades earlier

        In this case, I always answer: of course! If the Germans would stop toil themselves with foolishness and waste time with stoves, but moved science forward
        1. A.TOR
          A.TOR 31 July 2020 11: 19 New
          +1
          Here you are strongly, I must say, wrong ... strongly.
          War is monstrous. Moreover, such as the Second World War. But if it were not for her, the development of technical and scientific would have gone much slower. Sorry for the Jews
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 51 New
        -3
        We humanity
        Sounds !!
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 30 July 2020 17: 23 New
      +9
      Quote: Santa Fe
      All their successes are harmful to us, we will not get anything from this

      Give up the Internet, in your opinion it turns out this is also harm.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 30 July 2020 22: 36 New
        -9
        Why give up the internet

        Use all the inventions and benefits of the West, take everything from them - and do not give anything in return.

        Everything is only in the interests of your nation. The rest of the facts and reasoning are not accepted
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 July 2020 22: 56 New
          +3
          Very frank post.
          And so it goes ... sad And the result is noticeable.
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 54 New
          +2
          Everything is only in the interests of your nation

          I've always said .. patriotism is a disease ..))
          By analogy, to spite my mother, I will frostbitten my ears .. the same is here .. "in the interests of my nation" As if the nation may have some interests ..))
          1. shahor
            shahor 1 August 2020 12: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Roman123567
            I've always said .. patriotism is a disease ..))

            The disease is idiocy. And there was no smell of patriotism here.
    4. Malyuta
      Malyuta 30 July 2020 17: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: Santa Fe
      All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this. "Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"

      I am very sorry, but you ask Putin why he brought Russia to the state of third world countries.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 30 July 2020 23: 59 New
        -2
        Quote: Malyuta
        I am very sorry, but you ask Putin why he brought Russia to the state of third world countries.

        Of course, after all, in 2000 we were probably ahead of the rest of the world? And then for 20 years they fell behind. If only Putin could be braided somewhere.
        It would be better to be happy for this mission.
    5. kris_67
      kris_67 30 July 2020 17: 51 New
      -3
      Be proud of Russia's successes - S-500, S-400, Zircon, etc. not enough mind for anything else
    6. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 30 July 2020 20: 13 New
      10
      And you ask your grandmother with diabetes what is the use of the invention of insulin in the west, Olezha, her eyes will open instantly.
      1. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 31 July 2020 11: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        what good is it to the invention of insulin in the west,

        The question is wrong. What is the use of inventing a method for producing insulin identical to human with the help of a terrible and terrible GMO. After all, everyone can kick genetics, but they don't want to give up such insulin in favor of an "analog" from the glands of animals wink
    7. Roman123567
      Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 44 New
      -1
      You would have listened and quoted less than that fool .. his chatter is designed exclusively for the fragile brain of patriots ..
      What's the difference for humanity - which nation is flying ..
      By the same principle - for Voronezh there is no joy from Gagarin's flight, because Smolensk is a different city ..
  • ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 30 July 2020 16: 30 New
    16
    Space is our common home, and all the earthly fuss is dust, it is necessary to combine efforts to conquer outer space, no one can pull it alone.
  • Cry
    Cry 30 July 2020 17: 20 New
    -3
    They will bring the coronavirus there, and then prove whether there is life on Mars!
  • mitrich
    mitrich 30 July 2020 20: 51 New
    +8
    They are definitely great. What are both Voyager and Kiriosity worth. And here the Eagle-Federation has been sawing for decades and hopes will be completed in a digestible form.
    The symbol of our modern cosmonautics is Phobos-soil and the thieves' cosmodrome.
  • Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 31 July 2020 07: 57 New
    15
    I'm glad for the Americans. I join in the congratulations.
  • Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 31 July 2020 14: 47 New
    -2
    There were 7 missions to Mars in the USSR. The last one in 1973. Not everyone was successful, but that was almost half a century ago. And the declared theme of the Americans
    The main objective of this mission is to collect and study the properties of sedimentary rocks in order to search for microorganisms that prove the existence of life on the Red Planet in the past.

    This is the 3rd act of the Marlezon ballet. The first two were associated with the moon.
    wassat
  • Dikson
    Dikson 30 July 2020 15: 58 New
    18
    It remains to envy the Americans and wish success to mankind in the exploration of the red planet.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 30 July 2020 16: 29 New
      +7
      it's no surprise that they took a firm grip ... the "window" just opened - the minimum distance between Mars and the earth from mid-July to early August ...
      the next in 26 months will be ... our Roscosmos and Eurocosmos are planning a joint expedition to it ...
      I'd love to see our tricolor on Mars ...
      good luck to everyone in the exploration of the galaxy !!!!
    2. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 35 New
      -30 qualifying.
      Quote: Dikson
      It remains to envy the Americans and wish success to mankind in the exploration of the red planet.

      Mattresses are not people.
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 30 July 2020 17: 10 New
        16
        This is how propaganda cripples people. But there are people on the other side of the ocean who think the same about us.
        1. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 17: 25 New
          -12 qualifying.
          And what does it matter to us that there are some mattresses thinking about us?
        2. mitrich
          mitrich 30 July 2020 21: 12 New
          +3
          There are many patients. And then they come across.
        3. Roman123567
          Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 56 New
          -1
          I am glad that the majority are adequate here.
          This means that everything is not bad on the other side of the ocean ..))
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 30 July 2020 15: 58 New
    -14 qualifying.
    Well, when you get to Mars, then we'll talk ...
    1. Ilshat
      Ilshat 30 July 2020 16: 03 New
      13
      Any doubts?
      So far, not only have we been getting there, the work period has been blocked many times, Opportunity is already 55 times ...
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 30 July 2020 16: 41 New
        13
        You are overly serious and misunderstood the joke.
  • bulava
    bulava 30 July 2020 16: 02 New
    0
    The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 30 July 2020 16: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: bulava
      The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...

      Understood the joke. Funny smile
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 July 2020 17: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: bulava
      The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...

      So Ray Bradbury long ago wrote in "The Martian Chronicles", how the first 3 expeditions to Mars were killed by the Martians, and at the same time brought to Mars chickenpox, which mowed down the entire population ... The fourth expedition found empty cities and mountains of corpses
      And Harry Garrison predicted in detail and accurately ... bird flu! Moreover, the novel "Plague from Space" was published in Russian in the early 1990s, when there was no bird flu !!! Only in the novel is this an experiment of the Jupiterians.
      1. bulava
        bulava 30 July 2020 17: 20 New
        +2
        In this regard, it is gratifying that the expedition to Mars is irrevocable.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 30 July 2020 18: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: bulava
          ... an expedition to Mars ...

          Why the expedition ?! In Bulychev's novel, Alice, Gromozek and others like them find a planet where, like, 100 years before, for some unknown reason, all living things died out. Alice, of course, changes the past and saves the planet. And the epidemic was brought in by a meteorite through the skin of the spacecraft returning from the first flight!
          Robert Anson Heinlein wrote about the same thing in one of his novels.
          Pysy. They even made a cartoon based on the above-mentioned novel by Bulychev! fellow
        2. Avior
          Avior 31 July 2020 00: 28 New
          -1
          already returnable - in two stages
          this one should collect samples on Mars, the next one will take them and deliver them to Earth
          NASA and the European Space Agency plan to bring soil samples from Mars to Earth for the first time in history in 2031.
          .... in July of this year, they plan to send the Perseverance rover, which is to collect 30 soil samples from Mars. Another unit will be shipped in 2026 and will land next to Perseverance in 2028.
          He must take samples and go into the orbit of the planet, where he will already be awaited by another apparatus that can fly to Earth.
  • Perseverance
    Perseverance 30 July 2020 16: 04 New
    19
    One of the rover's scientific instruments, the Mars Oxygen In-Situ Resource Utilization Experiment (MOXIE), is designed to generate oxygen from the carbon dioxide that makes up the Martian atmosphere. NASA expects that this particular experiment will be useful for future manned missions to Mars.
    "When humans go to Mars, as opposed to a rover that just stays there ... when they finish their job, they will want to return. Which means they will need a rocket to return to an orbiting spacecraft and then return to Earth." , - added the interlocutor of the agency.

    According to experts, for the return of people from Mars to become a reality and a heavy rocket to overcome the planet's gravity, at least 30 tons of the purest liquid oxygen will be needed.

    "Most people, when they hear that we are going to produce oxygen on Mars, think that this is so that people have something to breathe. But in reality, you and I need about 1 kilogram of oxygen a day, so even if you stay on Mars for a long time, you only need a few hundred kilograms of pure oxygen, but this is a meager amount compared to the 30 tons that will be needed for a rocket, "says the scientist.

    And also the search for fossil evidence of past life on Mars, there will be experiments to study the geology of Mars, a helicopter. The experiments are ultimately meant to pave the way for human exploration of Mars, "

    1. A.TOR
      A.TOR 30 July 2020 16: 54 New
      +4
      I wonder why you got "-"
    2. dauria
      dauria 30 July 2020 18: 10 New
      0
      , but this is a tiny amount compared to the 30 tons that will be needed for the rocket "


      Hmm, that's already something. But the fuel is also needed, not just an oxidizer. In a ratio of about 1 to 3.. There is no oil, firewood does not grow, hydrogen also does not lie on the road.
      In general, there would be energy, something could be invented on the spot. It seems that the nuclear reactor will still need to be dragged there. To survive and stock up on fuel for the return trip.
  • Freemason Mason
    Freemason Mason 30 July 2020 16: 07 New
    16
    It remains to wish a fast flight and a soft landing. I am very glad that humanity has taken another step in space exploration!

    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 30 July 2020 16: 33 New
      -29 qualifying.
      The Americans did it
      For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

      Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 30 July 2020 16: 34 New
        10
        By whom?
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 30 July 2020 16: 36 New
          -22 qualifying.
          Existing circumstances
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 30 July 2020 16: 37 New
            14
            Each "existing circumstance" has a surname, name and patronymic.
            1. slipped
              slipped 30 July 2020 21: 34 New
              -3
              Quote: military_cat
              Each "existing circumstance" has a surname, name and patronymic.


              Johann-Dietrich Werner - CEO of ESA laughing
      2. Freemason Mason
        Freemason Mason 30 July 2020 16: 56 New
        15
        Quote: Santa Fe
        The Americans did it
        For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

        Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

        Quote: Narak-zempo
        Cartoons, cartoons ...
        Maybe the notorious "Curiosity" exists only in cartoons? It's cheaper to hire a multiplier team than launch a rocket.

        How unpleasant it is to watch such individuals. But for such people, many foreigners form an opinion about all Russians. For people for whom envy and offended pride for the state's dignity is more important than the next step in understanding our common world, even if this step was not taken by our country. For people who, not seeing success in space in their country, try to belittle strangers. It is because of people like you that our country is gradually ending up in the dustbin of progress and history.

        Do not do it this way.
      3. mdsr
        mdsr 30 July 2020 17: 26 New
        14
        Quote: Santa Fe
        The Americans did it
        For us, their successes are useless and harmful.
        Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

        For your information, NASA, Space-X, and other private companies working in the US space sector employ many immigrants from Russia. The same Elon Musk regularly emphasizes this. Many of them went there not for money, but for the opportunity to realize themselves, their knowledge. Unfortunately, in Russia they are deprived of this. Our leaders are more interested in cutting and utilizing budget money, rather than striving for discoveries and gaining new knowledge. So, the problem is not with them, but with the Russian authorities themselves.
      4. UserGun
        UserGun 30 July 2020 22: 35 New
        +4
        You and-d-i-o-t, forgive the truth. You can just as well stop using Newton's laws, from the fact that they were formulated by the damned Anglo-Saxon.
    2. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 38 New
      -23 qualifying.
      Quote: Freemason
      It remains to wish a fast flight and a soft landing. I am very glad that humanity has taken another step in space exploration!


      Cartoons, cartoons ...
      Maybe the notorious "Curiosity" exists only in cartoons? It's cheaper to hire a multiplier team than launch a rocket.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 30 July 2020 18: 10 New
        +2
        Fly off, check.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 30 July 2020 16: 08 New
    +2
    Perfectly. But it's time to prepare a mission with a man on board.
    And for this you need a nuclear rocket launcher and a new radiation protection system.
    And here we have, despite all our problems, good developments.
    1. kamui91
      kamui91 30 July 2020 16: 12 New
      +1
      Why all this? YARD will complicate the mission by orders of magnitude, but will make it possible to fly to Mars faster - well, and now it is not very long, only six months.
      Missions have been prepared for decades, and a half-year delay does not bother anyone.
      Astronauts also sit on the ISS for a year.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 30 July 2020 16: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: kamui91
        Why all this? YARD will complicate the mission by orders of magnitude, but will make it possible to fly to Mars faster - well, and now it is not very long, only six months.

        Radiation. Faster flew, less dose. And with chemical missiles, in my opinion, it turns out more difficult. The risk of error is very high.
        1. kamui91
          kamui91 30 July 2020 16: 29 New
          +4
          So with the YARD from the YARD itself you still need to somehow defend yourself.
          Chemical rockets have been worked out, there are no unexplored zones left. And how to make a reliable NRM - I can not imagine. Of course, there were all sorts of NEWS, but huge bench testing is needed. It's easier for this money to bungle a heavyweight and refuel it in orbit in the style of Musk.
          Naturally, these are all abstract thoughts - in reality, neither a flight to Mars, nor this rover is needed, because they are unprofitable and do not bring money.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 30 July 2020 18: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: kamui91
            So with the YARD from the YARD itself you still need to somehow defend yourself.

            This has been worked out as a whole. It’s unpleasant, but you can live, but what to do with cosmic radiation outside the Earth’s magnetic belt is unclear.
            I flew back and forth on a chemical rocket for 15 months - get a seat at the Kremlin wall.
            Here you need to either accelerate the river, or improve the defense. Better both.
            Quote: kamui91
            And how to make a reliable NRM - I can not imagine. Of course, there were all sorts of NEWS,

            Maybe Nerves? But in general, what is there to imagine. RD-0410 was actually ready, the program was closed in the mid-80s for political reasons. Of course, there would be problems, but this is a real option. And chemical rockets are a dead end. For Earth orbit only.
            Now we have been developing a nuclear power plant with an ion engine for 12 years. It is even simpler than the classic YARD.
            Quote: kamui91
            It's easier for this money to bungle a heavyweight and refuel it in orbit in the style of Musk.

            Now, according to the Martian program, 12 rockets are needed, the initial landing on Phobos. There is a lot of stages. And this despite the fact that the issue of radiation is not being resolved in any way. This is just super difficult and practically unrealizable.
  • Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 30 July 2020 16: 11 New
    +2
    Mars-yuan will be in use there by their arrival ...
  • sabakina
    sabakina 30 July 2020 16: 13 New
    +8
    Three missions from Earth simultaneously. I'm afraid the Martians will misunderstand us ... repeat
  • eklmn
    eklmn 30 July 2020 16: 13 New
    11
    Actually, if the landing on Mars is successful, it will be a third of the mission. The rover has to collect 36 soil samples, but to take the soil from the rover and lift it into Mars orbit by 2025 is the second third. Deliver from Mars orbit and land in Utah by 2031 is the final third.
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  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 30 July 2020 16: 29 New
    +8
    Undoubtedly the success of the mission and to all creative international teams and participants of this, once again, an advanced research mission. More and more complex and interesting.
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 32 New
    -27 qualifying.
    Pay attention, for some reason, such a valuable unit was not entrusted to the piarast-planokur Musk and his Falcon Heavy, which was promoted to all nozzles. We launched it with the good old Atlas with Russian RD-180 engines.
    All Musk can do is to throw buckets of nuts aka Tesla "towards the orbit of Mars" laughing
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 43 New
      -21 qualifying.
      Maskosexuals minus.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 30 July 2020 16: 56 New
      +5
      Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover. wassat
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 57 New
        -15 qualifying.
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover. wassat

        Were people running on Heavy?
        You, apparently, live in an alternative reality.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 30 July 2020 17: 00 New
          +6
          Why is Heavy here? All that Atlas-5 can pull, Falcon-9 will pull
          Falcon-9 puts up to 22.8 tons into orbit
          Atlas-5 up to 18.8 tons into orbit.
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 17: 01 New
            -12 qualifying.
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Why is Heavy here? All that Atlas-5 can pull, Falcon-9 will pull
            Falcon-9 puts up to 22.8 tons into orbit
            Atlas-5 up to 18.8 tons into orbit.

            Moreover, it is not clear why an expensive Atlas, if there is a "cheap" Falcon?
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 30 July 2020 17: 03 New
              +3
              Because if all launches are given to the cheap Falcon-9, then ULA will go broke, Musk will become a monopolist for all domestic heavy US launches, and the government will buy cheap Falcon at a monopoly price. wink
              1. eklmn
                eklmn 30 July 2020 19: 45 New
                +3
                Because when they began to develop the rover, ULA was already there and flew, and FH was in the drawings ...
        2. kamui91
          kamui91 30 July 2020 17: 01 New
          +5
          It's not very clear why you need Heavy here, one Falcon-9 would be enough.
          And why weren't they allowed - well, impotent people from Yula also need to eat something. They have lost to everyone in the free market, well, at least they are slowly sucking them out of the state budget.
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 17: 31 New
            -13 qualifying.
            Quote: kamui91
            It's not very clear why you need Heavy here, one Falcon-9 would be enough.
            And why weren't they allowed - well, impotent people from Yula also need to eat something. They have lost to everyone in the free market, well, at least they are slowly sucking them out of the state budget.

            But Musk is also on budget suction, everyone knows that.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 30 July 2020 18: 23 New
              +3
              laughing
              Only state employees have been certifying him for years in order to launch more Deltas for 180-420 million wink , because there is development and so on from each launch vehicle, and what to shake off the Mask.

              For comparison, Musk has launched more than the Russian Federation and the EU combined. And he has the next rocket the day after tomorrow. Of all the launches this year, you can somehow attract to state employees:
              - GPS in June
              - Truck on the ISS
              - People on the ISS

              Of the 11 launches, the rest he starts up for money, or for his own (Starlink), 10 days ago he launched the Koreans.



              On the contrary, ULA - which has customers only native federal departments, departments, the Ministry of Defense, NASA. And if this bread is taken away, then not only the Boeing and Lockheed lobbyists will have little money, but this enterprise will stupidly bend, with epic bankruptcy and throwing thousands of people out into the street.
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 30 July 2020 17: 56 New
      +4
      Because Musk is still barely getting certification. For ULA are good guys and the rocket squash pleases everyone.

      Because Musk has a busy schedule.

      Because the backbone enterprise turned out to be aground, all private customers suddenly fled from it to the fraudster Musk. Therefore, the Delta switched to 100% state order, and Atlas is also moving, for example, this year it brought:
      - SolarOrbiter, certification was decided + this is a joint project of ESA and NASA, where the Americans provide the withdrawal (because ESA could fly on Ariana, support their manufacturer, so to speak, but the quota is for the Americans, so Ariane is in flight).
      - Military satellite.
      - Another military satellite.
      - Mars rover

      Last year for example Atlas:
      - Military satellite.
      - Starliner, which did not reach the ISS

      And in 2013, for example, Atlas flew 7 times, and in 2014 as many as 9!
  • pytar
    pytar 30 July 2020 16: 35 New
    +4
    I wonder how many of the members of the forum would go to Mars with a space mission, bearing in mind the risks?
    Let's make a profile! bully
    Whoever agrees to go puts a plus (+), whoever would not go puts a minus (-)
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 30 July 2020 16: 41 New
      -12 qualifying.
      So we already launched the first cosmonaut there:
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 30 July 2020 16: 45 New
      +4
      Not everyone will agree, not every sofa will fit into a rocket. And on the stool it is harsh and uncomfortable.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 30 July 2020 17: 01 New
        -4
        Quote: 7,62x54
        Not everyone will agree, not every sofa will fit into a rocket. And on the stool it is harsh and uncomfortable.

        7,62x54, and you sit down on a soft chair from the headset of Kisa Vorobyanov's mother-in-law. wink
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 30 July 2020 17: 04 New
      +5
      Pitar, plus you from me for a peculiar sense of humor! It is a pity that we are in this Martian race crawling dejectedly along the side of the road. ...
      1. slipped
        slipped 30 July 2020 21: 53 New
        -3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Pitar, plus you from me for a peculiar sense of humor! It is a pity that we are in this Martian race crawling dejectedly along the side of the road. ...


        We don't race. We receive new data from our ACS spectrometric complex, laughing installed on the TGO apparatus of the "ExoMars" project. Just recently, new absorption bands of carbon dioxide and ozone were discovered in the atmosphere of Mars, which had not been observed before either on Earth or in space.

        Thanks to the high sensitivity of the three infrared spectrometers of the ACS, it turned out that carbon dioxide and ozone can manifest themselves precisely in the range of the infrared spectrum where the signal from methane molecules is expected to be detected. And methane is life!
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 July 2020 23: 24 New
          +1
          We don't race.

          I thought only Gazprom has "exalted forum fighters" (EFB)! I read your outrageous comments (this is not a compliment)! Got it ... and Rosskosmos has, but even worse prepared than Gazprom! Only such an EFB can say that "bad, that's good"! lol By the way, I've already read it, don't answer me. yes
          1. slipped
            slipped 31 July 2020 02: 47 New
            -4
            Quote: pytar
            I thought only Gazprom has "exalted forum fighters" (EFB)!


            What are you! laughing Consider it my hobby. laughing

            Quote: pytar
            I read your outrageous comments (this is not a compliment)!


            You have nothing to argue with? understand laughing

            Quote: pytar
            and Rosskosmos has, but even worse prepared than Gazprom!


            Duc did not specially prepare, I just know how to use the Internet laughing

            Quote: pytar
            Only such an EFB can say that "bad, that's good"! lol By the way, I've already read it, don't answer me. yes


            Did you decide to escape on the sly after the sketch? Where? lol
            1. pytar
              pytar 31 July 2020 08: 54 New
              +1
              Consider it my hobby.

              Well, if only they paid for THIS, you can be more or less understandable, but if you yourself write the whole "ballad" by your own will, this is already ... (censored).
              You have nothing to argue with? understand

              Let me explain! You are writing about some of the successes that undoubtedly are! But as they say, everything is learned in comparison! It is worth comparing them with what the USSR had before, and with what other countries are doing, and it immediately becomes clear - these are trifles, there is a critical lag!
              Did you decide to escape on the sly after the sketch?

              Trying to revive an exalted "patriot", it makes no sense! Pure waste of time! So, excuse me ... hi
              1. slipped
                slipped 31 July 2020 12: 02 New
                -2
                Quote: pytar
                but if you write the whole "ballad" at your own will, that's already ... (censored).


                Oops, have the insults already gone? lol

                Quote: pytar
                Let me explain! You are writing about some of the successes that undoubtedly are!


                Wah! As he said! As Klitschko straight, listen. lol Relative?

                Quote: pytar
                But as they say, everything is learned in comparison! It is worth comparing them with what the USSR had before, and with what other countries are doing, and it immediately becomes clear that these are trifles, there is a critical lag!


                Days are critical, not lags. laughing It can be compared with tsarist Russia - there was nothing like that in principle. And what are other countries doing? A megawatt-class space nuclear reactor? Electrodeless Plasma Rocket Engines? What?

                Quote: pytar
                So, excuse me ... hi


                Here is the correct solution laughing
    4. Odysseus
      Odysseus 30 July 2020 18: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: pytar
      Whoever agrees to go puts a plus (+), whoever would not go puts a minus (-)

      +
      I would fly on a nuclear pulse. You put a hundred nuclear charges under your butt, gradually detonate, and you fly to yourself drinking beer.
      This is our, in Russian. On a grand scale.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 July 2020 16: 52 New
    -2
    Started, it's good, and then we'll have a look. Suddenly the Martians will take him prisoner. fellow
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 July 2020 17: 03 New
    0
    Such a good rover, obviously, with a serious "stuffing!" And how much should it work on Mars?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 July 2020 17: 45 New
      +5
      A nuclear battery for 14 years of full operation, then you will have to save energy (for example, turn off some of the devices, turn them on by turning off others, drive according to a different energy scheme and if you stall, then you will not dig out well, etc. - it will be optimistic ~ 20 years the energy functionality is preserved).

      The rest, in other directions only. For example, Curiosity (the same platform) had a hard defect with wheels, they were very degraded and now they choose the soil and pull as they can. On the run, the wheels of a new sample, already following an investigation with Curiosity. Problems are especially visible in recent selfies.

      1. Maki maki
        Maki maki 30 July 2020 22: 45 New
        +5
        Probably tested in Nevada, I recognized the sand.
    2. Not_invented
      Not_invented 30 July 2020 19: 03 New
      +4
      At least one Martian year has been announced, but this, as always, is the minimum, and the estimated calculation for a much longer period.
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert 30 July 2020 17: 06 New
    +8
    Quote: Santa Fe
    The Americans did it
    For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

    Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

    "I should be in his place!" More precisely, we, but the USSR no longer exists. Now the guards will explain to us that we do not need space. So is the ocean fleet.
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  • tyy.44
    tyy.44 30 July 2020 17: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    Quote: BlackMokona
    Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover. wassat

    Were people running on Heavy?
    You, apparently, live in an alternative reality.

    Launch yourself somewhere far away.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 30 July 2020 17: 39 New
    -3
    On the one hand, you can rejoice and wish the new rover good luck. On the other hand, you should bite your lip with white envy, because NASA will not share a single grain of information that is worth anything.
  • Split
    Split 30 July 2020 17: 53 New
    -6
    Away from the moon missions, I believe it
    1. Split
      Split 30 July 2020 21: 51 New
      -5
      I do not understand why the minus, then? There are many, completely adequate things against ... and the supply of wheat to the USSR and other things. I am not a supporter of the lunar conspiracy. Yes, there is enough Mach cone, well, understand those who understand something in physics
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 July 2020 18: 10 New
    0
    Sho say good luck. The boom is to expect news from Mars.
  • Serpet
    Serpet 30 July 2020 18: 13 New
    17
    Our congratulations on a successful start
  • Charik
    Charik 30 July 2020 18: 27 New
    +6
    -already occupied space
  • Not_invented
    Not_invented 30 July 2020 18: 32 New
    +3

    I flew too.
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 30 July 2020 22: 14 New
      +2
      Did you buy this booklet from Musk?
      1. Not_invented
        Not_invented 31 July 2020 07: 31 New
        +3
        To draw attention to space, NASA is holding a Send Your Name to Mars campaign: a plaque is attached to all Martian vehicles, on which the names of all users registered in the program are engraved. These tablets are tiny in size, so their mass is negligible, but people are pleased, including me, that their names will be on another planet. For some reason, the Russian media do not particularly mention this, which seems very strange to me, but this is the second time I have been "flying" like this, and I think it's very cool.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 July 2020 18: 55 New
    -4
    Well, let's find out - there is life on Mars / no life on Mars ...
    Especially with a helicopter! It's a pity not "Apache" of course.
    What if local life forms have a totalitarian form of government there? .. How popular is it to explain to the people the correct party line?
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 30 July 2020 19: 24 New
    +3
    NASA flies farther and harder ... from the payload and its complexity, the eyes grow larger and scatter away from the payload nomenclature. This is real and without pathos COOL and worthy of respect. Well, we have, and what do we have ... we have the country of Asgardia, led by Ashurbeyli and with all the accompanying clowniness in terms of the Asgardians, with their laws, government and other similar scales ... what other than laughing and twirling finger to his temple ... but this is an achievement ... I guess. How will Rosskosmos answer now?
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 July 2020 19: 57 New
      -6
      Quote: viktor_ui
      Well, what about us, what about us ...


      And today we are launching two communication satellites into a supersynchronous orbit, from where they will transfer to geostationary orbit using stationary plasma engines SPD-100V.



      Quote: viktor_ui
      How will Rosskosmos answer now?


      The launch in 2022 of the second part of the ExoMars project - the Russian long-lived Mars station on the planet under the program for the search for life on Mars. The first part of a joint project with ESA - the TGO interplanetary probe has been monitoring the atmosphere of Mars since 2016.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 31 July 2020 06: 28 New
        +1
        It seems to be a successful launch ...
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  • UserGun
    UserGun 30 July 2020 22: 44 New
    +8
    My God, how much envy and undisguised idiocy the "patriots" have in terms of the comments on this article .... The country where are you heading ?! ...

    Shame ...
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 July 2020 23: 31 New
      +3
      My God, how much envy and undisguised idiocy the "patriots" have in terms of the comments on this article .... The country where are you heading ?! ...

      With such, it is impossible to override gravity! Just sink! No.
      A plus for you! You are an adequate person! good
  • sd.vf9
    sd.vf9 30 July 2020 22: 47 New
    -1
    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Russian_duh
    I propose a new national project: the development of a special greenhouse for growing bananas even in the northern regions of Russia

    Nanorizhy will instantly master several billions for the development of all-weather, intergalactic greenhouse complexes on hydrogen traction, and will finish the trampoline under Euro-5.

    Here are the young managers of the new Russia.
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 31 July 2020 03: 48 New
    +4
    It's a shame for the state !!! At the helm of "Roscosmos" is a trampoline specialist.
  • Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov 31 July 2020 04: 05 New
    +3
    And the patriots of Russia should respond to such insolence by dropping the dollar below the ruble, but they cannot.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 31 July 2020 05: 16 New
    -3
    All space powers are participating in the project (including rosskosmos), but the mission is American. I'm trudging. So soon the ISS will be declared the property of NASA, and Gagarin is an American.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 31 July 2020 08: 10 New
      0
      There are mainly European partners in the rover. Material for a nuclear battery was bought in bulk a long time ago and is now divided into missions. It is from Roscosmos that the Atlas first stage engine is there.
    2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 1 August 2020 01: 38 New
      0
      Do they not allow to leave for free on someone else's hump? Russophobes, we condemn.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 31 July 2020 06: 21 New
    -2
    Every dog ​​has his day. RD - 170 is waiting in the wings ...
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 31 July 2020 09: 12 New
    -1
    the creation of which was spent about $ 2,5 billion

    And then we zabashilnyh neighbors three lard, then the Poles "a little bit" .. It would be possible to launch one rover already !!
    And how many of their own steal ..
  • akunin
    akunin 31 July 2020 09: 21 New
    +3
    when I watched the news yesterday, I almost cried (especially when you look at this face)

    and I immediately remembered
    1. slipped
      slipped 31 July 2020 11: 55 New
      -5
      Quote: akunin
      when I watched the news yesterday, I almost cried


      how sensitive! well look at this one - here everything is gender-tolerant lol you look and let go.



      photodogs - they are
      1. akunin
        akunin 31 July 2020 12: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: slipped
        how sensitive! Well, look at this - here everything is gender-tolerant lol you look and let go.

        He will let me go when our rover is chasing across Mars, and Rogozin's face is ... memorable and his son is an order bearer. am am
        1. slipped
          slipped 31 July 2020 12: 38 New
          -4
          Quote: akunin
          like joking?


          Type pinned and also with fotozhaboy. laughing

          Quote: akunin
          will let me go when our rover will drive across Mars


          We have in the near future a planetary Mars landing station, not a rover. We have already collected it. And the rover will be the European Rosalind Franklin with our instruments too, we will deliver it.

          Quote: akunin
          memorable and the son - the order bearer. am am


          The son of such a handsome man in the sky released:



          1. akunin
            akunin 3 August 2020 10: 06 New
            -1
            I suspect that not a son, but a team.
            Russian statesman and manager. Active State Councilor of the Russian Federation, 3rd class. The son of the former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin, the grandson of Doctor of Technical Sciences, Lieutenant General Oleg Konstantinovich Rogozin.

            Since August 2003, he was in charge of Internet projects of the Rodina electoral bloc, then - of the Rodina party.
            normally so at 20 years old.
            Since 2012 - General Director of the federal state-owned enterprise Aleksinsky Chemical Plant (Tula Region).
            normally so at 29 years old.
            In 2017-2019 he was the vice-president of the UAC for transport aviation, the general director of the Ilyushin Aviation Complex (PJSC "Il")
            also an aircraft builder. How many such talented people do you know from ordinary parents? am
            1. slipped
              slipped 3 August 2020 10: 42 New
              0
              Quote: akunin
              I suspect that not a son, but a team.


              At that moment under his leadership. And it was then that the matter got off the ground. Will you deny that you signed the first flight? laughing So I'll give you a photo:

              1. akunin
                akunin 3 August 2020 10: 55 New
                -1
                Quote: slipped
                So I'll give you a photo:

                was it not ad. rogozin himself who came under the nickname slipped? or maybe the order bearer's dad? laughing
                1. slipped
                  slipped 3 August 2020 11: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: akunin
                  was it not ad. rogozin himself who came under the nickname slipped? or maybe the order bearer's dad? laughing


                  no Putin himself lol be happy already laughing
                  1. akunin
                    akunin 3 August 2020 16: 36 New
                    -1
                    Quote: slipped
                    no Putin himself

                    vladimir vladimirovich? it can't be, I voted for you in the 18th and for amendments to the constitution too.
                    God save the king ...
                    (forgot further. (sarcasm)
                    be happy already
                    already here
                    that is, they will.
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 3 August 2020 17: 50 New
                      0
                      Quote: akunin
                      ....


                      already a diagnosis in kind laughing
                      1. akunin
                        akunin 4 August 2020 14: 42 New
                        0
                        the frog has a green horseradish tongue tongue laughing
                      2. slipped
                        slipped 5 August 2020 01: 12 New
                        0
                        Quote: akunin
                        the frog has a green horseradish tongue tongue laughing


                        You have direct Putinism of the brain, in laughing
                      3. akunin
                        akunin 5 August 2020 14: 04 New
                        0
                        Quote: slipped
                        Quote: akunin
                        the frog has a green horseradish tongue tongue laughing


                        You have direct Putinism of the brain, in laughing

                        you are more careful with associations (green horseradish - Putinism) the servicemen on the site will not forgive tongue wassat
                      4. slipped
                        slipped 5 August 2020 14: 06 New
                        +1
                        Quote: akunin
                        You have direct Putinism of the brain, in laughing
                        you are more careful with associations (green horseradish - Putinism) the servicemen on the site will not forgive tongue wassat


                        so far only you have associations laughing heal
                      5. akunin
                        akunin 5 August 2020 14: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: slipped
                        heal

                        Let's, together
                      6. slipped
                        slipped 5 August 2020 14: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: akunin
                        Quote: slipped
                        heal

                        Let's, together


                        No really laughing you yourself, yourself, everything yourself. The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning themselves.
                      7. akunin
                        akunin 5 August 2020 14: 27 New
                        0
                        Quote: slipped
                        No, laughing yourself, on your own, all on your own. The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning themselves.

                        you are not a merciful person sad
  • Just a Traveler
    Just a Traveler 31 July 2020 14: 46 New
    -1
    I would spend this money on a systematic study of the ocean floor of our planet. We are all flying somewhere ... without really knowing anything about our own planet.
  • Chever
    Chever 31 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    Class. We will follow