US Mars mission launched from Cape Canaveral cosmodrome

The United States sent its Mars mission to the Red Planet. The Atlas V launch vehicle launched today from the Cape Canaveral launch site. The launch of the mission was broadcast by NASA.

According to the website of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the rocket launched at 07:50 US East Coast time (14:50 Moscow time). The Mars exploration rover Perseverance is scheduled to arrive in Mars orbit on February 18, 2021.

As previously reported, upon arrival at the Red Planet in February 2021, the rover is to land in the vicinity of the Yesero crater on the equator of Mars.

The rover itself is a six-wheeled science laboratory the size of a small car, which cost about $ 2,5 billion to create. Dimensions: length - about 3 m excluding the mechanical manipulator arm, width - 2,7 m, height - 2,2 m. The rover's weight is 1 kg.

The device is equipped with seven scientific instruments and an Ingenuity helicopter capable of making five short-term flights at an altitude of about 10 meters. The main objective of this mission is to collect and study the properties of sedimentary rocks in order to search for microorganisms that prove the existence of life on the Red Planet in the past.

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[dvffbbf]

Well done, good luck with your Mars exploration.

[Infinity]

I join in the congratulations! As I already wrote on VO, this is a great July for humanity - three missions to the Red Planet! First, the Arabs with their orbital "Al-Amal" ("Hope"), then the Chinese with their "Tianwen-1" ("Questions to Heaven") and now, the Americans. The only pity is that the launch of the second stage of ExoMars was postponed to 2022, and so there would be 4 missions. But Mars 2020 with this rover and helicopter is the most interesting of all. Most of all scientific equipment, an excellent successor to the work of its predecessors! And of course Ingenuity! The first atmospheric aircraft in history outside the Earth, capable of performing, albeit short, but not jet-powered flights.

Start-up video:

[military_cat]

On OUR rd-180!

[kris_67]

It doesn't smell like your RD-180

[military_cat]

Sniff again:

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[Vol4ara]

Quote: military_cat

Sniff again:

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The rights to sell rd 180 in the USA belong to rd-amross, and the rights to rd 180 itself, despite the fact that NPO Energomash is produced, belong to pratt & whitney, because they financed its development. So, not our rd 180, but their rd 180, produced in the Russian Federation

[military_cat]

Nothing prevents you from making the RD-ABVGD, which differs only in nuts and a nameplate, and doing anything with it. And this is not even my idea, because Roskosmos has already announced the creation of the RD-180MV for its projects.

[slipped]

Quote: military_cat

On OUR rd-180!

91st successful flight for the Russian RD-180 engine (No. 105T)

[Malyuta]

Quote: Infinity

it's a great July for humanity - three missions to the Red Planet! First, the Arabs with their orbital "Al-Amal" ("Hope"), then the Chinese with their "Tianwen-1" ("Questions to Heaven") and now, the Americans. The only pity is that the launch of the second stage of ExoMars was postponed to 2022, and so there would be 4 missions. But Mars 2020 with this rover and helicopter is the most interesting of all. Most of all scientific equipment, an excellent successor to the work of its predecessors! And of course Ingenuity! The first atmospheric aircraft in history outside the Earth, capable of performing, albeit short, but not jet-powered flights.

I agree with you, great July for Mars missions, but black for our scorpion and his trampoline. In the meantime, when the world is developing by leaps and bounds, we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.

[slipped]

Quote: Malyuta

we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.

Oh li

Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" in anticipation of braking Europe with its parachutes and rover

[Malyuta]

Quote: slipped

Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" waiting for Europe, which has braked with its parachutes and rover, laughing

I just knew that Geyropa would stick sticks in our Martian wheels, ugh to them in the drawbar.
It is necessary for the "Kozachka" to urgently fly independently, otherwise the "window" will close and you can hit the firmament.
Batutych, "from the screw"!

[slipped]

Quote: Malyuta

It is necessary to "Kozachka" urgently fly independently

Fly to the next window, Russia has enough instruments in Mars orbit now.

[UserGun]

Quote: slipped

Russia has enough instruments in Mars orbit now.

That Russia has enough ?! Define us, please!

[slipped]

Quote: UserGun

That Russia has enough ?! Define us, please!

ACS (Atmospheric Chemistry Suite) - a set of three infrared spectrometers for studying the chemistry and structure of the atmosphere of Mars. It can also receive images of the Sun necessary for better analysis of solar-eclipsing data in the infrared range. Involved in the search for methane, which is emitted by possible Martian life forms.

FREND (Fine Resolution Epithermal Neutron Detector) is a neutron detector for detecting the presence of hydrogen from the surface to a depth of 1 meter. It allows you to locate the location of water ice near the surface.

This is what concerns purely Russian devices. And so Russian scientists receive information from the entire complex of instruments of the TGO probe, the joint project "ExoMars" with Europe, to the antennas of the center of long-range space communications. This also applies to the camera.

[Angelo Provolone]

Assembled Russian Martian landing module "Kazachok" in anticipation of braking Europe with its parachutes and rover

The main thing is to properly sprinkle with holy water. otherwise the fate of Phobos-soil will befall

[slipped]

Quote: Angelo Provolone

The main thing is to properly sprinkle with holy water. otherwise the fate of Phobos-soil will befall

The main thing is to try to pass for a knowledgeable empty comment. On the topic, that is, what can I say?

[Machito]

Polovtsy and Pechenegs Mars unnecessarily, as well as Tereshkova. Give her medals for zeroing and give her money.
One can only rejoice at the successes of our sworn friends, at least someone thinks about science.

[slipped]

Quote: Bearded

Polovtsy and Pechenegs Mars unnecessarily, as well as Tereshkova. Give her medals for zeroing and give her money.
One can only rejoice at the successes of our sworn friends, at least someone thinks about science.

As the US Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan noted, the long-term fruitful cooperation of our countries in the field of space exploration is an invariable and extremely important component of US-Russian relations.

The study of the Red Planet also takes place with a long-term collaboration between American and Russian scientists on NASA's "Martian" projects.

Russian scientist Igor Mitrofanov and his colleagues from the Institute of Space Research (IKI RAS) have created the DAN neutron detector, which is located on board the Curiosity rover.

In collaboration with NASA, Igor Mitrofanov and his colleagues have created a HEND high-energy neutron detector for NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft.

An enlarged version of DAN is called FREND (High Resolution Epithermal Neutron Detector).

FREND is currently working aboard the Trace Gas Orbiter spacecraft, which is part of the ExoMars expedition launched in 2016 jointly with the European Space Agency. Two more ADRON neutron and gamma-ray detectors will operate in orbit and on the rover during the next ExoMars expedition in 2022.

[Machito]

Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA

[slipped]

Quote: Bearded

Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA

No - NASA is working as a cab.

[Machito]

Quote: slipped

Quote: Bearded

Here I am about the same, Roscosmos works as a branch of NASA

No - NASA is working as a cab.

We are giving them our high-tech instruments to be installed on their rovers. Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments?

[slipped]

Quote: Bearded

Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments?

Do not study. They are sealed And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.

[Machito]

Quote: slipped

Quote: Bearded

Do you think they are not interested in what they install? Or are they not studying our instruments?

Do not study. They are sealed And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.

Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover? And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.

[slipped]

Quote: Bearded

Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover?

So they didn't dig something, so, under strict guidance .... in the sense they were standing next to me.

Quote: Bearded

And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.

They won't understand anything anyway. Vaughn ULA passed all the complete documentation for the RD-180 in the XNUMXs. And they again flew away on our engines. Not figured out visible.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: slipped

Quote: Bearded

Don't tell my horseshoes. Who will let ours dig into the American rover?

So they didn't dig something, so, under strict guidance .... in the sense they were standing next to me.

Quote: Bearded

And to change our seals for them like two fingers on the asphalt.

They won't understand anything anyway. Vaughn ULA passed all the complete documentation for the RD-180 in the XNUMXs. And they again flew away on our engines. Not figured out visible.

So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney, and production in the Russian Federation is cheaper, you can not pay much labor

[slipped]

Quote: Vol4ara

So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney,

The ULA website clearly states who owns what. Go read it. The main and most of the patents for engines are held by the Russian Energomash. By the way, the development and release of design documentation for the RD-180MV engine is now underway for the Russian rocket.

Don't know English? read the wiki.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: slipped

Quote: Vol4ara

So they don't need it, the rights to rd 180 belong to Pratt & whitney,

The ULA website clearly states who owns what. Go read it. The main and most of the patents for engines are held by the Russian Energomash. By the way, the development and release of design documentation for the RD-180MV engine is now underway for the Russian rocket.

Don't know English? read the wiki.

Energomash has patent rights, no one argues, but there is no right to sell to anyone other than the United States)) Because on some patent rights the light does not converge like a wedge)

[slipped]

Quote: Vol4ara

but there is no right to sell to anyone other than the United States)) For on some patent rights the light does not converge like a wedge)

And who is going to sell them to someone? As I said above, they will be produced for our new missiles, as they finish, under an American contract. Moreover, the cost is much cheaper than the current ones.

[UserGun]

Quote: slipped

And ours install them. More precisely, under our supervision.

And what kind of supervision is this ?! With a squint))))

[slipped]

Quote: UserGun

And what kind of supervision is this ?! With a squint))))

there is a version that the plutonium-238 on this rover is Russian.

[UserGun]

What can I say! All rovers are assembled in Russia, yes! ))) Americans are stupid! Here I read your vigorous shmal and now I understand that Russia does not need a war to be conquered. A certain number of "patriotic" slippers is enough.

[slipped]

Quote: UserGun

What can I say! All rovers are assembled in Russia, yes! )))

You said it, not me.

Maybe you know whose plutonium-238 he has in his RTG? Earlier, the United States bought plutonium-238 from Russia for five years - the total amount of the transaction for the entire time amounted to $ 57.3 million for 40 kilograms of the isotope. According to the specialists' calculations, the purchased material should have been enough for more than thirty years.

[Roman123567]

Maybe you know whose plutonium-238 he has in his RTG?

This is how it always turns out .. and they have someone's plutonium .. and their engines .. and devices are not their own ..
But they are flying !! Not us ..
This is called - trust a fool a glass device .. well, further in the text ..
And then we can only make excuses that the world-famous AMERICAN Curiosity - yes, without our plutonium, but nowhere ..

$ 57.3 million for 40 kilograms of the isotope. The purchased material, according to the calculations of specialists, should have been enough for more than thirty years

What is 57 million for thirty years for the United States .. Ugh !!
And for Russia ?? Even less .. A couple of houses, and a small yacht ..
Projects that simply do not have a price .. it is still hard to believe that theirs rovers have been roaming there for years .. And we are counting 57 million ..
I don't understand how one can be proud of this

[slipped]

Quote: Roman123567

That's how it always turns out .. and they have someone's plutonium .. and their engines .. and devices are not their own .. But they fly !! Not us ..

So this is their launch then. We are flying in 2022, to the next window.

Quote: Roman123567

And then we can only make excuses that the world-famous AMERICAN Curiosity - yes, without our plutonium, but nowhere ..

Are you making excuses? Our DAN device is on Curiosity, which gave interesting results.

Quote: Roman123567

I don't understand how one can be proud of this

Something is wrong with you at the conservatory. Our planetary Mars station has already been completed and is waiting for the European rover, which is to be delivered to Mars.

[Maxwrx]

For your information, this time plutonium is purely American, in 2015 they began to synthesize it again.

[slipped]

Quote: MaxWRX

For your information, this time plutonium is purely American, in 2015 they began to synthesize it again.

where does it say "purely American"?

[Maxwrx]

here is an example https://meduza.io/feature/2020/07/30/nasa-otpravlyaet-na-mars-novyy-rover-perseverans-on-esche-kruche-chem-kyuriositi-iu-nego-est-nastoyaschiy- dron I was wrong, since 2012

[slipped]

Quote: MaxWRX

https://meduza.io/feature/2020/07/30/nasa-otpravlyaet-na-mars-novyy-rover-perseverans-on-esche-kruche-chem-kyuriositi-i-u-nego-est-nastoyaschiy-dron

It is very contradictory, they write that to reduce the cost, they used a spare RTG from the Curiosity program (and there was Russian plutonium), then suddenly they have American plutonium ... and the data on kilograms and the time of the start of production in this article are incorrect, and the link to Is there an English-language resource with confirmation?

[Maxwrx]

When a RTag is a spare, it is not filled. What is the contradiction here?

[slipped]

Aha found it. Medusa lied as usual. NASA's Mars rover Perseverance has received a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG) with plutonium-238, produced in Russia and the United States, Spaceflight Now reports.https: //lenta.ru/news/2020/07/24/perseverance/

[Maxwrx]

There are articles in English where it is written that it is purely American. This tape is just the bottom.

[slipped]

Quote: MaxWRX

There are articles in English where it is written that it is purely American. This tape is just the bottom.

The tape is the bottom, but it links to the respected Western resource Spaceflight Now. I was not too lazy and went to read, it turns out that since 2015, the United States has produced only one and a half kg of plutonium-238, and the rover needs about five. Therefore, they simply mixed their own and our plutonium, which they previously bought. Something like this. I repeat - this is according to a respected Western source.

[sd.vf9]

I killed my friend, I already watch this video 100 times what. for photoshop

[shinobi]

Go to America, nobody holds.

[Alex Justice]

It is unpleasant to look at the priest and the rocket. Everywhere they stick their nose, money doesn't smell.
It is unpleasant that officials encourage obscurantism.

[Mikhalych]

It is unpleasant to look at the priest and the rocket

DO NOT LOOK! Take care of your health.

[Mikhalych]

we are sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the Middle Ages and obscurantism, rolling back a century and a half ago.

Malyuta, why do you associate the Middle Ages with obscurantism? Then the perverts were impaled and rightly so. Then people believed in God, and now people like you lead the mip to death. The USSR (Russia) carried out 50 missions to Mars about 4 years ago. True, it is more productive to find a heart between a woman's legs than life on Mars.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Yes! I hope that in the promised year and a half I will admire messages, photos and videos from the Red Planet!))

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Yes! I hope that in the promised year and a half I will admire messages, photos and videos from the Red Planet!))

What prevents you from doing this now?
4K video based on thousands of images from the Curiosity rover

[Mikhalych]

Something the horizon strongly resembles the earthly one. Mars is almost half the size of Earth and the horizon should be different.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mikhalych

Something the horizon strongly resembles the earthly one. Mars is almost half the size of Earth and the horizon should be different.

Optical distortion introduced by optics You, by the way, did not notice that the colors in the video sometimes differ from the "purely Martian" ones that carry only shades of red ...

And this happened because of the "tint" of the video in order to better define the relief and the boundaries of the blasts ...

[Mikhalych]

I don't know about the apple trees that will bloom on Mars, but the Americans found a gopher there. See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKThyARU1Ww

[awdrgy]

And I hope that you will not have to run from some Martian microorganisms that "accidentally" escaped to freedom)))

[Alanart]

And how does he, a helicopter, fly there, or rather, will it fly? In the same atmosphere - the cat sneezed, 6 mbar, or less

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Alanart

And how does he, a helicopter, fly there, or rather, will it fly? In the same atmosphere - the cat sneezed, 6 mbar, or less

For this reason, it is jet-powered. The resource is limited for several flights.

[abrakadabre]

For this reason, it is jet-powered. The resource is limited for several flights.

And then what is in it a helicopter? If it's jet-powered?

[Lumumbo]

Well here I wish the USA good luck! Oh, if everyone could unite in space programs and forget all the strife and wars .. Maybe the station would already be on Mars, etc. !

[Mikhalych]

Eh, if everyone could unite

If only a woman. ... ...

[Santa Fe]

Quote: dvffbbf

Well done, good luck with your Mars exploration.

What benefit to us from the success of another nation

No matter how smart / talented others are - all their merits are crossed out by one circumstance - this is another nation

All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this. "Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"

[A.TOR]

With the achievements of the West, you received the Internet, a computer, an iPhone, effective medicines, modern, safe cars, effective and affordable technologies for mass housing construction and ... almost everything that surrounds you every day.
By the way, diapers, toilet paper and, sorry, feminine hygiene products.
However ... you can also wipe with the Pravda newspaper. Or even a burdock ...

[Zeev zeev]

However ... you can also wipe with the Pravda newspaper

You can't wipe yourself with the Pravda newspaper.
In the newspaper Pravda there is a portrait of the leader.

[A.TOR]

THE OTHER PARTY IS POSSIBLE

[Alex Nevs]

And ruined states don't count!

[stalki]

And from the achievements of Russian scientists, the world received: television, telegraph, incandescent lamp, electric engine, parachute, color photo, monorail, electric car, laser, artificial heart, Mendleev's table, alcohol and much more ... A lot. So I'll wipe my iPhone, I'll leave the Internet, okay, the computer too

[mdsr]

Quote: stalki

So I'll wipe my iPhone, I'll leave the Internet, okay, the computer too

Not a bad choice

[A.TOR]

It would be strange if such a large country, with such difficult conditions of existence, requiring constant "consideration", would not give the world much. \ However, the point is, WHO and HOW introduced achievements into everyday life.
Here, Russia is not very much

[Santa Fe]

With the achievements of the West, you received the Internet, a computer, an iPhone, effective medicines, modern, safe cars, efficient and affordable

Therefore, they will never consider Russians as equals.

We, in turn, will never admit that the West is right. We were born in Russia and we are the best nation. Just for one fact that she is mine. Everything else is side

Take everything from the west, and don't give anything in return. Until we learn to do everything better than them

[Roman123567]

Мы, in turn, will never admit that the West is right. Мы were born in Russia and we is the best nation.

Don't speak for everyone ..))
I know for sure that I'm no different from an American .. it just scattered us once in different parts of the world .. And so, we are all the same .. and we even had common grandfathers ..))
This discord with the nations is beneficial exclusively for the rulers to stay in power .. and the hamsters are being led to it ..

[A.TOR]

Take everything from the west, and don't give anything in return. Until we learn to do everything better than them

Over the past 300 years, this has been happening. Something not really ...

[UserGun]

It is useless to say this to those who use in everyday life not only what you have sparingly listed, but also the words that they use every second in communication and do not even think about their origin.

[mdsr]

Quote: Santa Fe

What benefit to us from the success of another nation

What benefit do you mean? Cash? Well, you can't get it from exploring the Universe. But you can get and get the real, true value - KNOWLEDGE. From such knowledge, the collective knowledge of humanity is formed. Would you, having closed in your nation, know a lot about the Universe and about other Galactics today, if not for the legendary Hubble telescope? And soon a new, much more powerful telescope, James Webb, will fly into space. We, humanity, will witness new, amazing discoveries of our world.

Quote: Santa Fe

all their merits are crossed out by one circumstance - this is another nation

Rave. Where would you be and who would you be if not for Galileo Galilei, Newton, Albert Einstein, Jim Hawkins and thousands of other scientists from other nations?

Quote: Santa Fe

All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this.

Tell me, how does the discovery of the existence of life on Mars billions of years ago harm you?

Quote: Santa Fe

"Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"

You cannot stoop so low in your ignorance. So it is close to Nazism. It is necessary to fight against such vices. By the way, millions of Russians also live abroad. Humanity must exist independently of the existence of individual countries or nations. It is a matter of competition, rivalry, natural selection that has existed as long as there are living organisms on Earth. During this time, billions of different types of living organisms have disappeared, including some nations and tribes of people.

[Santa Fe]

Rave. Where would you be and who would you be if not for Galileo Galilei, Newton, Albert Einstein, Jim Hawkins and thousands of other scientists from other nations?

There is a legend

If not for the Holocaust, many important discoveries and inventions would have occurred decades earlier

In this case, I always answer: of course! If the Germans would stop toil themselves with foolishness and waste time with stoves, but moved science forward

[A.TOR]

Here you are strongly, I must say, wrong ... strongly.
War is monstrous. Moreover, such as the Second World War. But if it were not for her, the development of technical and scientific would have gone much slower. Sorry for the Jews

[Roman123567]

We humanity

Sounds !!

[RUSS]

Quote: Santa Fe

All their successes are harmful to us, we will not get anything from this

Give up the Internet, in your opinion it turns out this is also harm.

[Santa Fe]

Why give up the internet

Use all the inventions and benefits of the West, take everything from them - and do not give anything in return.

Everything is only in the interests of your nation. The rest of the facts and reasoning are not accepted

[voyaka uh]

Very frank post.
And so it goes ... And the result is noticeable.

[Roman123567]

Everything is only in the interests of your nation

I've always said .. patriotism is a disease ..))
By analogy, to spite my mother, I will frostbitten my ears .. the same is here .. "in the interests of my nation" As if the nation may have some interests ..))

[shahor]

Quote: Roman123567

I've always said .. patriotism is a disease ..))

The disease is idiocy. And there was no smell of patriotism here.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Santa Fe

All their successes are harmful to us, we will get nothing from this. "Why the world if there is no Russia in it?"

I am very sorry, but you ask Putin why he brought Russia to the state of third world countries.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Malyuta

I am very sorry, but you ask Putin why he brought Russia to the state of third world countries.

Of course, after all, in 2000 we were probably ahead of the rest of the world? And then for 20 years they fell behind. If only Putin could be braided somewhere.
It would be better to be happy for this mission.

[kris_67]

Be proud of Russia's successes - S-500, S-400, Zircon, etc. not enough mind for anything else

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

And you ask your grandmother with diabetes what is the use of the invention of insulin in the west, Olezha, her eyes will open instantly.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)

what good is it to the invention of insulin in the west,

The question is wrong. What is the use of inventing a method for producing insulin identical to human with the help of a terrible and terrible GMO. After all, everyone can kick genetics, but they don't want to give up such insulin in favor of an "analog" from the glands of animals

[Roman123567]

You would have listened and quoted less than that fool .. his chatter is designed exclusively for the fragile brain of patriots ..
What's the difference for humanity - which nation is flying ..
By the same principle - for Voronezh there is no joy from Gagarin's flight, because Smolensk is a different city ..

[ancestors from Don]

Space is our common home, and all the earthly fuss is dust, it is necessary to combine efforts to conquer outer space, no one can pull it alone.

[Cry]

They will bring the coronavirus there, and then prove whether there is life on Mars!

[mitrich]

They are definitely great. What are both Voyager and Kiriosity worth. And here the Eagle-Federation has been sawing for decades and hopes will be completed in a digestible form.
The symbol of our modern cosmonautics is Phobos-soil and the thieves' cosmodrome.

[Antifreeze]

I'm glad for the Americans. I join in the congratulations.

[Mikhalych]

There were 7 missions to Mars in the USSR. The last one in 1973. Not everyone was successful, but that was almost half a century ago. And the declared theme of the Americans

The main objective of this mission is to collect and study the properties of sedimentary rocks in order to search for microorganisms that prove the existence of life on the Red Planet in the past.

This is the 3rd act of the Marlezon ballet. The first two were associated with the moon.

[Dikson]

It remains to envy the Americans and wish success to mankind in the exploration of the red planet.

[kepmor]

it's no surprise that they took a firm grip ... the "window" just opened - the minimum distance between Mars and the earth from mid-July to early August ...
the next in 26 months will be ... our Roscosmos and Eurocosmos are planning a joint expedition to it ...
I'd love to see our tricolor on Mars ...
good luck to everyone in the exploration of the galaxy !!!!

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Dikson

It remains to envy the Americans and wish success to mankind in the exploration of the red planet.

Mattresses are not people.

[mdsr]

This is how propaganda cripples people. But there are people on the other side of the ocean who think the same about us.

[Narak-zempo]

And what does it matter to us that there are some mattresses thinking about us?

[mitrich]

There are many patients. And then they come across.

[Roman123567]

I am glad that the majority are adequate here.
This means that everything is not bad on the other side of the ocean ..))

[7,62x54]

Well, when you get to Mars, then we'll talk ...

[Ilshat]

Any doubts?
So far, not only have we been getting there, the work period has been blocked many times, Opportunity is already 55 times ...

[7,62x54]

You are overly serious and misunderstood the joke.

[mace]

The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...

[Odysseus]

Quote: bulava

The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...

Understood the joke. Funny

[Reptiloid]

Quote: bulava

The main thing is that the coronavirus is not brought there ...

So Ray Bradbury long ago wrote in "The Martian Chronicles", how the first 3 expeditions to Mars were killed by the Martians, and at the same time brought to Mars chickenpox, which mowed down the entire population ... The fourth expedition found empty cities and mountains of corpses
And Harry Garrison predicted in detail and accurately ... bird flu! Moreover, the novel "Plague from Space" was published in Russian in the early 1990s, when there was no bird flu !!! Only in the novel is this an experiment of the Jupiterians.

[mace]

In this regard, it is gratifying that the expedition to Mars is irrevocable.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: bulava

... an expedition to Mars ...

Why the expedition ?! In Bulychev's novel, Alice, Gromozek and others like them find a planet where, like, 100 years before, for some unknown reason, all living things died out. Alice, of course, changes the past and saves the planet. And the epidemic was brought in by a meteorite through the skin of the spacecraft returning from the first flight!
Robert Anson Heinlein wrote about the same thing in one of his novels.
Pysy. They even made a cartoon based on the above-mentioned novel by Bulychev!

[Avior]

already returnable - in two stages
this one should collect samples on Mars, the next one will take them and deliver them to Earth

NASA and the European Space Agency plan to bring soil samples from Mars to Earth for the first time in history in 2031.
.... in July of this year, they plan to send the Perseverance rover, which is to collect 30 soil samples from Mars. Another unit will be shipped in 2026 and will land next to Perseverance in 2028.
He must take samples and go into the orbit of the planet, where he will already be awaited by another apparatus that can fly to Earth.

[Perseverance]

One of the rover's scientific instruments, the Mars Oxygen In-Situ Resource Utilization Experiment (MOXIE), is designed to generate oxygen from the carbon dioxide that makes up the Martian atmosphere. NASA expects that this particular experiment will be useful for future manned missions to Mars.
"When humans go to Mars, as opposed to a rover that just stays there ... when they finish their job, they will want to return. Which means they will need a rocket to return to an orbiting spacecraft and then return to Earth." , - added the interlocutor of the agency.

According to experts, for the return of people from Mars to become a reality and a heavy rocket to overcome the planet's gravity, at least 30 tons of the purest liquid oxygen will be needed.

"Most people, when they hear that we are going to produce oxygen on Mars, think that this is so that people have something to breathe. But in reality, you and I need about 1 kilogram of oxygen a day, so even if you stay on Mars for a long time, you only need a few hundred kilograms of pure oxygen, but this is a meager amount compared to the 30 tons that will be needed for a rocket, "says the scientist.

And also the search for fossil evidence of past life on Mars, there will be experiments to study the geology of Mars, a helicopter. The experiments are ultimately meant to pave the way for human exploration of Mars, "

[A.TOR]

I wonder why you got "-"

[dauria]

, but this is a tiny amount compared to the 30 tons that will be needed for the rocket "

Hmm, that's already something. But the fuel is also needed, not just an oxidizer. In a ratio of about 1 to 3.. There is no oil, firewood does not grow, hydrogen also does not lie on the road.
In general, there would be energy, something could be invented on the spot. It seems that the nuclear reactor will still need to be dragged there. To survive and stock up on fuel for the return trip.

[Freemason Mason]

It remains to wish a fast flight and a soft landing. I am very glad that humanity has taken another step in space exploration!

[Santa Fe]

The Americans did it
For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

[military_cat]

By whom?

[Santa Fe]

Existing circumstances

[military_cat]

Each "existing circumstance" has a surname, name and patronymic.

[slipped]

Quote: military_cat

Each "existing circumstance" has a surname, name and patronymic.

Johann-Dietrich Werner - CEO of ESA

[Freemason Mason]

Quote: Santa Fe

The Americans did it
For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

Quote: Narak-zempo

Cartoons, cartoons ...
Maybe the notorious "Curiosity" exists only in cartoons? It's cheaper to hire a multiplier team than launch a rocket.

How unpleasant it is to watch such individuals. But for such people, many foreigners form an opinion about all Russians. For people for whom envy and offended pride for the state's dignity is more important than the next step in understanding our common world, even if this step was not taken by our country. For people who, not seeing success in space in their country, try to belittle strangers. It is because of people like you that our country is gradually ending up in the dustbin of progress and history.

Do not do it this way.

[mdsr]

Quote: Santa Fe

The Americans did it
For us, their successes are useless and harmful.
Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

For your information, NASA, Space-X, and other private companies working in the US space sector employ many immigrants from Russia. The same Elon Musk regularly emphasizes this. Many of them went there not for money, but for the opportunity to realize themselves, their knowledge. Unfortunately, in Russia they are deprived of this. Our leaders are more interested in cutting and utilizing budget money, rather than striving for discoveries and gaining new knowledge. So, the problem is not with them, but with the Russian authorities themselves.

[UserGun]

You and-d-i-o-t, forgive the truth. You can just as well stop using Newton's laws, from the fact that they were formulated by the damned Anglo-Saxon.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Freemason

It remains to wish a fast flight and a soft landing. I am very glad that humanity has taken another step in space exploration!

Cartoons, cartoons ...
Maybe the notorious "Curiosity" exists only in cartoons? It's cheaper to hire a multiplier team than launch a rocket.

[military_cat]

Fly off, check.

[Odysseus]

Perfectly. But it's time to prepare a mission with a man on board.
And for this you need a nuclear rocket launcher and a new radiation protection system.
And here we have, despite all our problems, good developments.

[kamui91]

Why all this? YARD will complicate the mission by orders of magnitude, but will make it possible to fly to Mars faster - well, and now it is not very long, only six months.
Missions have been prepared for decades, and a half-year delay does not bother anyone.
Astronauts also sit on the ISS for a year.

[Odysseus]

Quote: kamui91

Why all this? YARD will complicate the mission by orders of magnitude, but will make it possible to fly to Mars faster - well, and now it is not very long, only six months.

Radiation. Faster flew, less dose. And with chemical missiles, in my opinion, it turns out more difficult. The risk of error is very high.

[kamui91]

So with the YARD from the YARD itself you still need to somehow defend yourself.
Chemical rockets have been worked out, there are no unexplored zones left. And how to make a reliable NRM - I can not imagine. Of course, there were all sorts of NEWS, but huge bench testing is needed. It's easier for this money to bungle a heavyweight and refuel it in orbit in the style of Musk.
Naturally, these are all abstract thoughts - in reality, neither a flight to Mars, nor this rover is needed, because they are unprofitable and do not bring money.

[Odysseus]

Quote: kamui91

So with the YARD from the YARD itself you still need to somehow defend yourself.

This has been worked out as a whole. It’s unpleasant, but you can live, but what to do with cosmic radiation outside the Earth’s magnetic belt is unclear.
I flew back and forth on a chemical rocket for 15 months - get a seat at the Kremlin wall.
Here you need to either accelerate the river, or improve the defense. Better both.

Quote: kamui91

And how to make a reliable NRM - I can not imagine. Of course, there were all sorts of NEWS,

Maybe Nerves? But in general, what is there to imagine. RD-0410 was actually ready, the program was closed in the mid-80s for political reasons. Of course, there would be problems, but this is a real option. And chemical rockets are a dead end. For Earth orbit only.
Now we have been developing a nuclear power plant with an ion engine for 12 years. It is even simpler than the classic YARD.

Quote: kamui91

It's easier for this money to bungle a heavyweight and refuel it in orbit in the style of Musk.

Now, according to the Martian program, 12 rockets are needed, the initial landing on Phobos. There is a lot of stages. And this despite the fact that the issue of radiation is not being resolved in any way. This is just super difficult and practically unrealizable.

[Igor Polovodov]

Mars-yuan will be in use there by their arrival ...

[sabakina]

Three missions from Earth simultaneously. I'm afraid the Martians will misunderstand us ...

[eklmn]

Actually, if the landing on Mars is successful, it will be a third of the mission. The rover has to collect 36 soil samples, but to take the soil from the rover and lift it into Mars orbit by 2025 is the second third. Deliver from Mars orbit and land in Utah by 2031 is the final third.

[viktor_ui]

Undoubtedly the success of the mission and to all creative international teams and participants of this, once again, an advanced research mission. More and more complex and interesting.

[Narak-zempo]

Pay attention, for some reason, such a valuable unit was not entrusted to the piarast-planokur Musk and his Falcon Heavy, which was promoted to all nozzles. We launched it with the good old Atlas with Russian RD-180 engines.
All Musk can do is to throw buckets of nuts aka Tesla "towards the orbit of Mars"

[Narak-zempo]

Maskosexuals minus.

[Blackmokona]

Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: BlackMokona

Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover.

Were people running on Heavy?
You, apparently, live in an alternative reality.

[Blackmokona]

Why is Heavy here? All that Atlas-5 can pull, Falcon-9 will pull
Falcon-9 puts up to 22.8 tons into orbit
Atlas-5 up to 18.8 tons into orbit.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: BlackMokona

Why is Heavy here? All that Atlas-5 can pull, Falcon-9 will pull
Falcon-9 puts up to 22.8 tons into orbit
Atlas-5 up to 18.8 tons into orbit.

Moreover, it is not clear why an expensive Atlas, if there is a "cheap" Falcon?

[Blackmokona]

Because if all launches are given to the cheap Falcon-9, then ULA will go broke, Musk will become a monopolist for all domestic heavy US launches, and the government will buy cheap Falcon at a monopoly price.

[eklmn]

Because when they began to develop the rover, ULA was already there and flew, and FH was in the drawings ...

[kamui91]

It's not very clear why you need Heavy here, one Falcon-9 would be enough.
And why weren't they allowed - well, impotent people from Yula also need to eat something. They have lost to everyone in the free market, well, at least they are slowly sucking them out of the state budget.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: kamui91

It's not very clear why you need Heavy here, one Falcon-9 would be enough.
And why weren't they allowed - well, impotent people from Yula also need to eat something. They have lost to everyone in the free market, well, at least they are slowly sucking them out of the state budget.

But Musk is also on budget suction, everyone knows that.

[donavi49]

Only state employees have been certifying him for years in order to launch more Deltas for 180-420 million , because there is development and so on from each launch vehicle, and what to shake off the Mask.

For comparison, Musk has launched more than the Russian Federation and the EU combined. And he has the next rocket the day after tomorrow. Of all the launches this year, you can somehow attract to state employees:
- GPS in June
- Truck on the ISS
- People on the ISS

Of the 11 launches, the rest he starts up for money, or for his own (Starlink), 10 days ago he launched the Koreans.

On the contrary, ULA - which has customers only native federal departments, departments, the Ministry of Defense, NASA. And if this bread is taken away, then not only the Boeing and Lockheed lobbyists will have little money, but this enterprise will stupidly bend, with epic bankruptcy and throwing thousands of people out into the street.

[donavi49]

Because Musk is still barely getting certification. For ULA are good guys and the rocket squash pleases everyone.

Because Musk has a busy schedule.

Because the backbone enterprise turned out to be aground, all private customers suddenly fled from it to the fraudster Musk. Therefore, the Delta switched to 100% state order, and Atlas is also moving, for example, this year it brought:
- SolarOrbiter, certification was decided + this is a joint project of ESA and NASA, where the Americans provide the withdrawal (because ESA could fly on Ariana, support their manufacturer, so to speak, but the quota is for the Americans, so Ariane is in flight).
- Military satellite.
- Another military satellite.
- Mars rover

Last year for example Atlas:
- Military satellite.
- Starliner, which did not reach the ISS

And in 2013, for example, Atlas flew 7 times, and in 2014 as many as 9!

[pytar]

I wonder how many of the members of the forum would go to Mars with a space mission, bearing in mind the risks?
Let's make a profile!
Whoever agrees to go puts a plus (+), whoever would not go puts a minus (-)

[Narak-zempo]

So we already launched the first cosmonaut there:

[7,62x54]

Not everyone will agree, not every sofa will fit into a rocket. And on the stool it is harsh and uncomfortable.

[sabakina]

Quote: 7,62x54

Not everyone will agree, not every sofa will fit into a rocket. And on the stool it is harsh and uncomfortable.

7,62x54, and you sit down on a soft chair from the headset of Kisa Vorobyanov's mother-in-law.

[Thrifty]

Pitar, plus you from me for a peculiar sense of humor! It is a pity that we are in this Martian race crawling dejectedly along the side of the road. ...

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Quote: Thrifty

Pitar, plus you from me for a peculiar sense of humor! It is a pity that we are in this Martian race crawling dejectedly along the side of the road. ...

We don't race. We receive new data from our ACS spectrometric complex, installed on the TGO apparatus of the "ExoMars" project. Just recently, new absorption bands of carbon dioxide and ozone were discovered in the atmosphere of Mars, which had not been observed before either on Earth or in space.

Thanks to the high sensitivity of the three infrared spectrometers of the ACS, it turned out that carbon dioxide and ozone can manifest themselves precisely in the range of the infrared spectrum where the signal from methane molecules is expected to be detected. And methane is life!

[pytar]

We don't race.

I thought only Gazprom has "exalted forum fighters" (EFB)! I read your outrageous comments (this is not a compliment)! Got it ... and Rosskosmos has, but even worse prepared than Gazprom! Only such an EFB can say that "bad, that's good"! By the way, I've already read it, don't answer me.

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Quote: pytar

I thought only Gazprom has "exalted forum fighters" (EFB)!

What are you! Consider it my hobby.

Quote: pytar

I read your outrageous comments (this is not a compliment)!

You have nothing to argue with? understand

Quote: pytar

and Rosskosmos has, but even worse prepared than Gazprom!

Duc did not specially prepare, I just know how to use the Internet

Quote: pytar

Only such an EFB can say that "bad, that's good"! By the way, I've already read it, don't answer me.

Did you decide to escape on the sly after the sketch? Where?

[pytar]

Consider it my hobby.

Well, if only they paid for THIS, you can be more or less understandable, but if you yourself write the whole "ballad" by your own will, this is already ... (censored).

You have nothing to argue with? understand

Let me explain! You are writing about some of the successes that undoubtedly are! But as they say, everything is learned in comparison! It is worth comparing them with what the USSR had before, and with what other countries are doing, and it immediately becomes clear - these are trifles, there is a critical lag!

Did you decide to escape on the sly after the sketch?

Trying to revive an exalted "patriot", it makes no sense! Pure waste of time! So, excuse me ...

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Quote: pytar

but if you write the whole "ballad" at your own will, that's already ... (censored).

Oops, have the insults already gone?

Quote: pytar

Let me explain! You are writing about some of the successes that undoubtedly are!

Wah! As he said! As Klitschko straight, listen. Relative?

Quote: pytar

But as they say, everything is learned in comparison! It is worth comparing them with what the USSR had before, and with what other countries are doing, and it immediately becomes clear that these are trifles, there is a critical lag!

Days are critical, not lags. It can be compared with tsarist Russia - there was nothing like that in principle. And what are other countries doing? A megawatt-class space nuclear reactor? Electrodeless Plasma Rocket Engines? What?

Quote: pytar

So, excuse me ...

Here is the correct solution

[Odysseus]

Quote: pytar

Whoever agrees to go puts a plus (+), whoever would not go puts a minus (-)

+
I would fly on a nuclear pulse. You put a hundred nuclear charges under your butt, gradually detonate, and you fly to yourself drinking beer.
This is our, in Russian. On a grand scale.

[Ros 56]

Started, it's good, and then we'll have a look. Suddenly the Martians will take him prisoner.

[Thrifty]

Such a good rover, obviously, with a serious "stuffing!" And how much should it work on Mars?

[donavi49]

A nuclear battery for 14 years of full operation, then you will have to save energy (for example, turn off some of the devices, turn them on by turning off others, drive according to a different energy scheme and if you stall, then you will not dig out well, etc. - it will be optimistic ~ 20 years the energy functionality is preserved).

The rest, in other directions only. For example, Curiosity (the same platform) had a hard defect with wheels, they were very degraded and now they choose the soil and pull as they can. On the run, the wheels of a new sample, already following an investigation with Curiosity. Problems are especially visible in recent selfies.

[Maki maki]

Probably tested in Nevada, I recognized the sand.

[Not_invented]

At least one Martian year has been announced, but this, as always, is the minimum, and the estimated calculation for a much longer period.

[Red Alert]

Quote: Santa Fe

The Americans did it
For us, their successes are useless and harmful.

Why should we rejoice at what is happening in a world where the Russians are assigned a place of observers

"I should be in his place!" More precisely, we, but the USSR no longer exists. Now the guards will explain to us that we do not need space. So is the ocean fleet.

[tyy.44]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Quote: BlackMokona

Well, of course people are much less responsible to launch this than a rover.

Were people running on Heavy?
You, apparently, live in an alternative reality.

Launch yourself somewhere far away.

[andrew42]

On the one hand, you can rejoice and wish the new rover good luck. On the other hand, you should bite your lip with white envy, because NASA will not share a single grain of information that is worth anything.

[Split]

Away from the moon missions, I believe it

[Split]

I do not understand why the minus, then? There are many, completely adequate things against ... and the supply of wheat to the USSR and other things. I am not a supporter of the lunar conspiracy. Yes, there is enough Mach cone, well, understand those who understand something in physics

[rocket757]

Sho say good luck. The boom is to expect news from Mars.

[Serpet]

Our congratulations on a successful start

[Charik]

-already occupied space

[Not_invented]

I flew too.

[mdsr]

Did you buy this booklet from Musk?

[Not_invented]

To draw attention to space, NASA is holding a Send Your Name to Mars campaign: a plaque is attached to all Martian vehicles, on which the names of all users registered in the program are engraved. These tablets are tiny in size, so their mass is negligible, but people are pleased, including me, that their names will be on another planet. For some reason, the Russian media do not particularly mention this, which seems very strange to me, but this is the second time I have been "flying" like this, and I think it's very cool.

[petrol cutter]

Well, let's find out - there is life on Mars / no life on Mars ...
Especially with a helicopter! It's a pity not "Apache" of course.
What if local life forms have a totalitarian form of government there? .. How popular is it to explain to the people the correct party line?

[viktor_ui]

NASA flies farther and harder ... from the payload and its complexity, the eyes grow larger and scatter away from the payload nomenclature. This is real and without pathos COOL and worthy of respect. Well, we have, and what do we have ... we have the country of Asgardia, led by Ashurbeyli and with all the accompanying clowniness in terms of the Asgardians, with their laws, government and other similar scales ... what other than laughing and twirling finger to his temple ... but this is an achievement ... I guess. How will Rosskosmos answer now?

[slipped]

Quote: viktor_ui

Well, what about us, what about us ...

And today we are launching two communication satellites into a supersynchronous orbit, from where they will transfer to geostationary orbit using stationary plasma engines SPD-100V.

Quote: viktor_ui

How will Rosskosmos answer now?

The launch in 2022 of the second part of the ExoMars project - the Russian long-lived Mars station on the planet under the program for the search for life on Mars. The first part of a joint project with ESA - the TGO interplanetary probe has been monitoring the atmosphere of Mars since 2016.

[Dikson]

It seems to be a successful launch ...

[UserGun]

My God, how much envy and undisguised idiocy the "patriots" have in terms of the comments on this article .... The country where are you heading ?! ...

Shame ...

[pytar]

My God, how much envy and undisguised idiocy the "patriots" have in terms of the comments on this article .... The country where are you heading ?! ...

With such, it is impossible to override gravity! Just sink!
A plus for you! You are an adequate person!

[sd.vf9]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: Russian_duh

I propose a new national project: the development of a special greenhouse for growing bananas even in the northern regions of Russia

Nanorizhy will instantly master several billions for the development of all-weather, intergalactic greenhouse complexes on hydrogen traction, and will finish the trampoline under Euro-5.

Here are the young managers of the new Russia.

[tolmachiev51]

It's a shame for the state !!! At the helm of "Roscosmos" is a trampoline specialist.

[Ura Orlov]

And the patriots of Russia should respond to such insolence by dropping the dollar below the ruble, but they cannot.

[shinobi]

All space powers are participating in the project (including rosskosmos), but the mission is American. I'm trudging. So soon the ISS will be declared the property of NASA, and Gagarin is an American.

[donavi49]

There are mainly European partners in the rover. Material for a nuclear battery was bought in bulk a long time ago and is now divided into missions. It is from Roscosmos that the Atlas first stage engine is there.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Do they not allow to leave for free on someone else's hump? Russophobes, we condemn.

[Whirlwind]

Every dog ​​has his day. RD - 170 is waiting in the wings ...

[Roman123567]

the creation of which was spent about $ 2,5 billion

And then we zabashilnyh neighbors three lard, then the Poles "a little bit" .. It would be possible to launch one rover already !!
And how many of their own steal ..

[akunin]

when I watched the news yesterday, I almost cried (especially when you look at this face)

and I immediately remembered

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Quote: akunin

when I watched the news yesterday, I almost cried

how sensitive! well look at this one - here everything is gender-tolerant you look and let go.

photodogs - they are

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

how sensitive! Well, look at this - here everything is gender-tolerant lol you look and let go.

He will let me go when our rover is chasing across Mars, and Rogozin's face is ... memorable and his son is an order bearer.

[slipped]

Quote: akunin

like joking?

Type pinned and also with fotozhaboy.

Quote: akunin

will let me go when our rover will drive across Mars

We have in the near future a planetary Mars landing station, not a rover. We have already collected it. And the rover will be the European Rosalind Franklin with our instruments too, we will deliver it.

Quote: akunin

memorable and the son - the order bearer.

The son of such a handsome man in the sky released:

[akunin]

I suspect that not a son, but a team.

Russian statesman and manager. Active State Councilor of the Russian Federation, 3rd class. The son of the former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin, the grandson of Doctor of Technical Sciences, Lieutenant General Oleg Konstantinovich Rogozin.

Since August 2003, he was in charge of Internet projects of the Rodina electoral bloc, then - of the Rodina party.

normally so at 20 years old.

Since 2012 - General Director of the federal state-owned enterprise Aleksinsky Chemical Plant (Tula Region).

normally so at 29 years old.

In 2017-2019 he was the vice-president of the UAC for transport aviation, the general director of the Ilyushin Aviation Complex (PJSC "Il")

also an aircraft builder. How many such talented people do you know from ordinary parents?

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Quote: akunin

I suspect that not a son, but a team.

At that moment under his leadership. And it was then that the matter got off the ground. Will you deny that you signed the first flight? So I'll give you a photo:

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

So I'll give you a photo:

was it not ad. rogozin himself who came under the nickname slipped? or maybe the order bearer's dad?

[slipped]

Quote: akunin

was it not ad. rogozin himself who came under the nickname slipped? or maybe the order bearer's dad?

no Putin himself be happy already

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

no Putin himself

vladimir vladimirovich? it can't be, I voted for you in the 18th and for amendments to the constitution too.

God save the king ...

(forgot further. (sarcasm)

be happy already

already here

that is, they will.

[slipped]

Quote: akunin

...

already a diagnosis in kind

[akunin]

the frog has a green horseradish

[slipped]

Quote: akunin

the frog has a green horseradish

You have direct Putinism of the brain, in

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

Quote: akunin

the frog has a green horseradish

You have direct Putinism of the brain, in

you are more careful with associations (green horseradish - Putinism) the servicemen on the site will not forgive

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Quote: akunin

You have direct Putinism of the brain, in
you are more careful with associations (green horseradish - Putinism) the servicemen on the site will not forgive

so far only you have associations heal

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

heal

Let's, together

[slipped]

Quote: akunin

Quote: slipped

heal

Let's, together

No really you yourself, yourself, everything yourself. The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning themselves.

[akunin]

Quote: slipped

No, laughing yourself, on your own, all on your own. The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning themselves.

you are not a merciful person

[Just a Traveler]

I would spend this money on a systematic study of the ocean floor of our planet. We are all flying somewhere ... without really knowing anything about our own planet.

[Chever]

Class. We will follow