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SBU intends to extradite detained "Ukrainians" from Belarus

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SBU intends to extradite detained "Ukrainians" from Belarus

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) intends to achieve the extradition of "citizens of Ukraine" detained in Belarus. To this end, the SBU is preparing a request to the office of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine to send it to Belarus. This was stated in the press service of the SBU.


The SBU will make a request for the extradition of detainees in Belarus, among whom there are citizens of Ukraine

- said in a statement.

At the same time, the number of people, whose extradition Kiev intends to seek, is not disclosed, but it is stated that among the detainees there are "citizens of Ukraine" who have been wanted by the Ukrainian police for a long time.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin said that there are no Ukrainian citizens among the detainees, all of them are Russian citizens.

We do not recognize their Ukrainian citizenship. They are citizens of Russia

- said the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov, answering a question from journalists about the Ukrainian citizenship of those detained in Belarus.

He also said that in the near future Moscow hopes to receive "exhaustive" information from Minsk on the detention of Russians. A telephone conversation between Putin and Lukashenko is not planned yet.

Today our ambassador is communicating with the Foreign Ministry and with colleagues in Minsk, so we hope that as a result of this communication, as well as through the channels of communication between the special services, we will receive comprehensive information about what happened. Of course, we expect that the rights of detained Russian citizens will be fully respected

- added Peskov.

As previously reported, among the detainees there are several people who had previously fought on the side of the people's republics of Donbass. Kiev intends to demand the extradition of these fighters.
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 30 July 2020 14: 15 New
    +4
    The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) intends to achieve the extradition of "citizens of Ukraine" detained in Belarus.

    Dust swallow dust!
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 30 July 2020 14: 20 New
      36
      It would be nice so ...
      Strange things happened with the defenders of Donbass before, even in the Russian Federation.
      1. user1212
        user1212 30 July 2020 14: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Livonetc
        Strange things happened with the defenders of Donbass before, even in the Russian Federation.

        Yeah, especially when it turned out that these "defenders" were wanted in the DPR / LPR themselves as criminals
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist 31 July 2020 07: 34 New
          -6
          And today Peskov said that there is no PMC in Russia. That is, all detainees in Russia receive from 3 to 7 under the article for mercenary activity.
          1. user1212
            user1212 31 July 2020 13: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: syndicalist
            And today Peskov said that there is no PMC in Russia. That is, all detainees in Russia receive from 3 to 7 under the article for mercenary activity.

            You have a very strange idea of ​​PMCs. Private traders do not participate in hostilities. They either protect specific objects, or are engaged in instructor activities that are not prohibited by any law. There are very few of them, most often without heavy weapons, aviation and artillery. No professional will enter into a combined-arms battle when your flanks are held by local "Papuans". You can't make one go bare-chested to the embrasure for any money. So they only go for the Motherland, not for money. A corpse doesn't need money
            1. syndicalist
              syndicalist 31 July 2020 13: 52 New
              -6
              Quote: user1212
              You have a very strange idea about PMCs. Private traders do not participate in hostilities.

              Nevertheless, the law of any country, including Russia, the country recognizes PMCs as mercenaries, with all the consequences.
              1. user1212
                user1212 31 July 2020 14: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: syndicalist
                Nevertheless, the law of any country, including Russia, the country recognizes PMCs as mercenaries, with all the consequences.

                Name at least one country that equated PMCs with mercenaries. In Russian legislation, there is no concept of PMCs at all, therefore the activities of PMCs are not regulated. To simplify, the regulated analogue of PMCs is a private security company, focused on providing services outside the country. It has nothing to do with mercenarism.
                1. syndicalist
                  syndicalist 31 July 2020 15: 19 New
                  -4
                  The name of a PMC is not a PMC in court. They look at the actual status and cases. Namely, whether there was: recruitment to take part in an armed conflict, whether he took part in hostilities, whether he received material remuneration, whether he was a member of the armed forces of a party to the conflict. If the answer is affirmative to all, the defendant is recognized as a mercenary, even if he has a kindergarten guard patch on his uniform.
                  Moreover, unlike Western PMCs, their Russian colleagues do not even have this excuse, because, as Peskov said yesterday: "legally in Russia there is no concept of a private military company (PMC)."
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 30 July 2020 14: 31 New
        -3
        There are all the citizens of Russia, Russia and deal with them. No crimes have been committed in Belarus, they will sort it out and hand it over to the Russian side. In my opinion, the detention was carried out according to the principle "it is better to intercede than not to intercede".
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 38 New
          15
          Quote: AlexGa
          In my opinion, the detention was carried out according to the principle "it is better to interrupt than not to intercede".

          With such publicity? In this case, everything had to be done extremely quietly and unnoticed.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 30 July 2020 14: 41 New
            -1
            I think the question is as follows. On August 3, there are calls for a general strike in Belarus. Therefore, the emergence of any organized groups will cause great suspicion.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: AlexGa
              I think the question is as follows. On August 3, there are calls for a general strike in Belarus. Therefore, the emergence of any organized groups will cause great suspicion.

              It is this strike that causes the greatest suspicion!
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 30 July 2020 15: 35 New
                0
                How can I tell you. Provided that it is impossible to win the elections against Lukashenka, start a turmoil in Belarus and turn it into a Maidan and disrupt the elections on the 9th, and then declare Lukashenka not legitimate. Quite an interesting plot. Kiev is 14 years old.
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 30 July 2020 15: 46 New
                  +2
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  How can I tell you. Provided that it is impossible to win the elections against Lukashenka, start a turmoil in Belarus and turn it into a Maidan and disrupt the elections on the 9th, and then declare Lukashenka not legitimate. Quite an interesting plot. Kiev is 14 years old.

                  That is why I call this strike suspicious! Lukashenka needs to direct all his attention to her and her organizers, and not to catch the mythical Russian Wagnerites.
                  1. Alexga
                    Alexga 30 July 2020 16: 21 New
                    -8
                    And what, there is already an explanation of what this group is doing near Minsk?
                    1. St Petrov
                      St Petrov 30 July 2020 16: 51 New
                      -1
                      the group wanted to buy potatoes with all their Sudanese coins
                      And then fly to Turkey, using the tickets found, and resell it there
                2. Sergey V.
                  Sergey V. 30 July 2020 22: 35 New
                  +3
                  So Luka himself achieves the Maidan. He cannot win the elections in a legitimate way.
                  Therefore, he needs something extraordinary to stay in power.
            2. Alexander I
              Alexander I 30 July 2020 15: 09 New
              10
              They went in transit through the Republic of Belarus, I think they knew this and therefore the detention looks strange
              1. Dmitry10SPb
                Dmitry10SPb 30 July 2020 21: 19 New
                0
                As I understand it, the Russian ambassador was not talking about transit, but almost about private security companies under an agreement with a commercial enterprise. These are ordinary security guards.
          2. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 30 July 2020 14: 45 New
            13
            With such publicity, the "dad" most likely decided to make some noise before the elections. Like "here is the hand of Moscow," which "wants to swallow the independent republic", but "dad" is not asleep! :))) This is just a theory, but it is possible. I wonder with what face he will again ask for energy discounts after such a show
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 30 July 2020 15: 07 New
              +3
              Quote: kot28.ru
              I wonder with what face he will ask for energy discounts again after such a show.

              ask not ask .... Russia's position was announced at the highest level in December - "But what is needed for this - this requires general rules in the form of laws, including in the field of taxation, in the field of subsidy policy, in the field of support from the budget of different levels of various industries. This even requires common supranational bodies, control and emission. General rules in the field of antimonopoly policy should work, " then we believe that a single tariff can be realized only in a single market with a single budget and a single taxation system. Such a deep level of integration into the EurAsEC has not yet been achieved "... Mishustin recently in July once again -" I believe that if we will jointly create a single space on these cards and adopt, with exceptions, perhaps, the Unified Tax Code, when we can unify our rates, approaches, then we will be able to to talk, among other things, about the mechanism of pricing for energy carriers, as our Belarusian partners, in principle, are proposing. "
            2. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 30 July 2020 15: 23 New
              +1
              I wonder with what face he will ask for energy discounts again after such a show.

              And he will bargain for discounts in exchange for the detainees.
            3. Volkov
              Volkov 30 July 2020 19: 10 New
              0
              With such that it is supposedly Russia will still have to apologize for the incident and, as a sign of reconciliation, reduce prices and issue loans.
            4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 July 2020 19: 11 New
              +3
              Quote: kot28.ru
              I wonder with what person he will again ask for discounts on energy after such a show

              He will not ask, he will demand. This position, at least, he will once again take on his return, in front of the cameras of his media.
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 30 July 2020 18: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: СРЦ П-15

            With such publicity? In this case, everything had to be done extremely quietly and unnoticed.

            But Luca intervened and everything went as it went. Before the elections, Luka needed a "scandal" with Russia, hence all this tragicomedy.
          4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 July 2020 19: 07 New
            +4
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            In this case, everything had to be done extremely quietly and unnoticed.

            In this case, the dad simply did not need to approve of their presence in Belarus. People behaved extremely openly - they lived in a large group in one place (and even in a sanatorium - where everything was in plain sight), they wore military clothes, they did not hide from anyone. Unless they marched under the Lukashenka’s residence with the banners of their PMCs. Definitely all the agreements were there. Or do you think that this is how the militants who want to secretly accumulate in a neighboring country for black business should behave?
          5. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 30 July 2020 21: 40 New
            +3
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: AlexGa
            In my opinion, the detention was carried out according to the principle "it is better to interrupt than not to intercede".

            With such publicity? In this case, everything had to be done extremely quietly and unnoticed.

            Luca is now playing "both yours and ours." "Yours" (in the sense of the Western) in the sense that it aggravates with Russia, which in their eyes makes it more attractive in terms of winning the upcoming elections, because corresponds to the general policy of the US and the EU to demonize Russia, and therefore strengthens its legitimacy in their eyes. Ours (in the sense of the Russian Federation) in the sense that a precedent has been created that presupposes some kind of "political and economic" bargaining. If the auction does not burn out, then they will let go and apologize, they say - the suspicions have not been confirmed, if they burn out, they will also be released for the same reasons. In any case, this "dregs" will be disturbed until the end of the elections, after which they will be "sorted out." In terms of extraditing someone to the Ukrainian side, I think that Lukashenka is not so stupid as to put himself in the category of non-handshake politicians for the Kremlin, with all the ensuing "buns" that will lead to the fact that the economy of Belarus will collapse faster than it will come next elections in 2024 and the "grateful" Belarusian people will surely give him a ride.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 July 2020 14: 38 New
          +3
          exactly. and probably it was they so perbdeli that they were accused of terrorism. cool. at the same time accused that they came to disrupt the elections and some other groups are preparing. okay so perebdy.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 30 July 2020 14: 43 New
            0
            After Prilepin's statements that there were his fellow soldiers in the battalion in the group, they will naturally understand.
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          1. Alexga
            Alexga 30 July 2020 15: 36 New
            0
            The verb "vigil" does not exist, there is the verb "vigil" and the adjective "vigilant".

            Of course you're right. I'm sorry. fool
        4. Observer2014
          Observer2014 30 July 2020 18: 00 New
          -1
          AlexGa (Alexander)
          There all the citizens of Russia, Russia and to deal with them. No crimes have been committed in Belarus, they will sort it out and hand it over to the Russian side.
          Moreover, who can now clearly explain the behavior of Lukashenka himself, and his hysterics about this?
          In my opinion, the detention was carried out according to the principle "it is better to interrupt than not to intercede".
          Yes, of course. Wherever there is vigilant. He is a liar and schemer from beginning to end.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 30 July 2020 18: 18 New
            0
            Yes, Minsk has already figured it out. The Ambassador of the Russian Federation arrived, sorted it out and gave explanations. Why are Prilepin and the former head of the DPR surrendering their own, claiming that there were their associates in this group? What, they don't understand that they are creating problems for their people abroad. They can simply tie up and simply hand over to Ukraine with fanfare.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 30 July 2020 20: 28 New
              -4
              Quote: AlexGa
              Yes, Minsk has already figured it out. The Ambassador of the Russian Federation arrived, sorted it out and gave explanations. Why are Prilepin and the former head of the DPR surrendering their own, claiming that there were their associates in this group? What, they don't understand that they are creating problems for their people abroad. They can simply tie up and simply hand over to Ukraine with fanfare.

              Whom to hand over? Russians? Hand over to Ukraine ?! laughing lolHere I am amused. Almost all the republics have passports of the Russian Federation. We have one on the site because of the coronavirus (as he himself said), not a Russian, probably stayed All, give you work. I have a hobby.
            2. tomket
              tomket 31 July 2020 00: 38 New
              0
              Quote: AlexGa
              Yes, Minsk has already figured it out. The Ambassador of the Russian Federation arrived, sorted it out and gave explanations.

              Initially, everyone in Minsk knew before starting this circus.
              Quote: AlexGa
              Why Prilepin and the former head of the DPR are surrendering their own, claiming that there were their associates in this group?

              It’s like a hint to Old Man that his pig's snout was in a row of vanities.
              Quote: AlexGa
              What, they don't understand that they are creating problems for their people abroad.

              In general, it makes sense to keep silent when the Belarusians, like a "Peacemaker", have posted their data in the public domain? Or do you think the SBU are so stupid that they did not check such a gift from a mustache?
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 July 2020 19: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Observer2014
            Can anyone now clearly explain the behavior of Lukashenka himself?

            Yeah. Another scam of "allies", bordering on treason, in the name of their selfish interests and base desires. All this is based on the inability of the “allies” to give any answer while Lukashenka is holding our brothers, Belarusians, as hostages.
        5. paco.soto
          paco.soto 30 July 2020 23: 16 New
          -3
          There all the citizens of Russia, Russia and to deal with them. No crimes have been committed in Belarus, they will sort it out and hand it over to the Russian side. In my opinion ©
          Yes !, but .... Prilepin, the writer quickly identified and merged the detainees into the criminal case. According to the laws of different countries.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 30 July 2020 23: 45 New
            -4
            Quote: paco.soto
            There all the citizens of Russia, Russia and to deal with them. No crimes have been committed in Belarus, they will sort it out and hand it over to the Russian side. In my opinion ©
            Yes !, but .... Prilepin, the writer quickly identified and merged the detainees into the criminal case. According to the laws of different countries.

            foolWell done, keep on being yourself laughing
            1. paco.soto
              paco.soto 31 July 2020 00: 31 New
              0
              fool
              Reply ©
              I did not find any logical content in your answer. I don't know how to answer
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 30 July 2020 14: 23 New
      -6
      This is how Lukashenka will decide.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 27 New
        +9
        A telephone conversation between Putin and Lukashenko is not planned yet.

        But this is strange.
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 July 2020 14: 30 New
          15
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          But this is strange.

          Nothing strange. The story is "sewn with white thread" and with what will Lukashenka come to such negotiations ...?
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 32 New
            +7
            Quote: svp67
            Nothing strange. The story is "sewn with white thread" and with what will Lukashenka come to such negotiations ...?

            What kind of negotiations can there be? It would just be a "call to the carpet"!
            1. svp67
              svp67 30 July 2020 14: 37 New
              0
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              It would just be a "call to the carpet"!

              And then what's the point of sending "mercenaries"?
              All this is a "show" for domestic consumption. The way they conducted the Security Council on the cameras, with the initial data of interrogations and conclusions ... well, sorry, this is already enough to give our Ambassador a note, at least
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 39 New
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                And then what's the point of sending "mercenaries"?

                Are you sure that Putin sent the mercenaries? belay
                1. svp67
                  svp67 30 July 2020 14: 41 New
                  -10 qualifying.
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  Are you sure that Putin sent the mercenaries?

                  Well, the "arrows" are directed at "Wagner", and the whole world knows that these are "Putin's Janissaries" ...
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 30 July 2020 14: 45 New
                    +5
                    Quote: svp67
                    Well, the "arrows" are directed at "Wagner", and the whole world knows that these are "Putin's Janissaries" ...

                    Putin has 145 million such "janissaries"! Does he need to be responsible for everyone?
                    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 July 2020 19: 24 New
                      +7
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      Putin has 145 million such "Janissaries"

                      Cross me out, please.
                      1. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 30 July 2020 19: 36 New
                        0
                        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                        Cross me out, please.

                        With pleasure: Boris Razor yes
                  2. Romka47
                    Romka47 30 July 2020 15: 54 New
                    +2
                    Well, the "arrows" then point at Wagner,
                    if the mercenaries and Russia, then immediately Wagner, it is already known that these guys are from PMC MAR and in this case PMC is not a Private Military. Company, this is exactly the name. the guys flew in transit through the Republic of Belarus to Turkey, and then there is infa (but here I have no confirmation) that they flew in Libya to guard some object for the PNS, if this is true then there are already questions, because the Wagnerians in Libya are on the side of Khavtar. But not the essence, it was not 100% PMC "Wagner" and the private security company "PMC MAR". RSOTM with Tatar dal made a good video where at the beginning they discuss why it is crooked and stupid, and then told who they really are.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 30 July 2020 16: 02 New
                      10
                      Quote: Romka47
                      if the mercenaries and Russia then immediately Wagner,

                      You understand that "But father said" Wagner "means" Wagner "", that's cool. And who are "PMC MAR", and even a private security company ... not solid, they would have sent VOKHR.
                      For me, this story is akin to the Ukrainian attempt to break through the Kerch Strait in front of a choice and ... one smell comes
                      1. Romka47
                        Romka47 30 July 2020 16: 46 New
                        +2
                        Here yes !, from this side you can not argue)
                      2. PSih2097
                        PSih2097 30 July 2020 17: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: svp67
                        still VOKHR would be sent.

                        Well, VOKHR would be immediately accepted, because VOKHR is armed and very dangerous, and these were only with pounds, which are not circulating on the territory of the Republic of Belarus.
                      3. Observer2014
                        Observer2014 30 July 2020 20: 45 New
                        -5
                        Quote: svp67
                        Quote: Romka47
                        if the mercenaries and Russia then immediately Wagner,

                        You understand that "But father said" Wagner "means" Wagner "", that's cool. And who are "PMC MAR", and even a private security company ... not solid, they would have sent VOKHR.
                        For me, this story is akin to the Ukrainian attempt to break through the Kerch Strait in front of a choice and ... one smell comes

                        yes goodMaybe I wanted to copy it, but it didn't work out. A lot of disciplined guys in the military. wassat Those who have culturally stopped at a hotel in the glorious city of Minsk. Well, they do not look like those who came to overthrow the BaTska. laughing
                      4. svp67
                        svp67 31 July 2020 04: 41 New
                        0
                        Quote: Observer2014
                        Culturally stopped by the hotel in the glorious city of Minsk.

                        So ... "food for thought"
                        The sanatorium is located very close to the end of Pobediteley Avenue. There is nowhere closer to the Thrush and the Palace of Independence.
                        The choice of a sanatorium for the place of staging is dictated by an extremely simple fact. The health resort is headed by the best friend of the “bloody” Sheiman - the former head of the Main Clinical Center of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, Colonel Savitsky Svyatoslav Fyodorovich.
                        And the cherry on the cake is a subordinate sanatorium and belongs to ... FPB (Federation of Trade Unions of Belarus - approx. RV).
                        And the head of the FPB Mikhail Orda, in turn, heads the election headquarters of Lukashenka... By pure chance Horde visited the sanatorium the day before the "special operation" ".

                        My conclusions are as follows:
                        - the Belarusian side knew EXCELLENT who and why was "resting" in this sanatorium;
                        - everything that happened afterwards was a "performance" ...
            2. Junior Private
              Junior Private 30 July 2020 15: 07 New
              +6
              The fact of the matter is that this story is unlikely to be limited to "domestic consumption" and will have consequences. Father's insanity is a big political, and as a result, an economic mistake.
        2. krillon
          krillon 30 July 2020 14: 52 New
          +3
          Lukashenka has elections on his nose. Would you give up such a trump card? "A creep for independence .., an attempt to remove the head of state .." And everyone needs to unite to resist aggression. Naturally under his leadership.
    3. svp67
      svp67 30 July 2020 14: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Kronos
      This is how Lukashenka will decide.

      It will be decided by the one who will be elected in August ...
      1. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru 30 July 2020 14: 50 New
        +2
        "Whether you like it or not, I will still be a presenter" :))) Although I personally am impressed by the dad. True, lately he starts to become impudent. He uses his "loyalty". Probably the longest-term ruling president in Europe.
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 30 July 2020 15: 26 New
          +2
          Probably the longest-term reigning president in Europe.

          Not sure, but for sure!
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 July 2020 00: 57 New
          0
          Quote: kot28.ru
          dad impresses me personally

          How can a person be impressed, driving another wedge into the body of our people, in an attempt to tear off a part of it, in order to have the pleasure of reigning over it undividedly?
  2. figwam
    figwam 30 July 2020 14: 44 New
    +3
    The SBU will make a request for the extradition of detainees in Belarus, among whom there are citizens of Ukraine

    These are Russian citizens, which means it will be kidnapping. It looks like the one who was "dad" made his geopolitical choice.
    1. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 30 July 2020 16: 30 New
      0
      I think the SBU will be content to take it by the cheek ...
      1. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 30 July 2020 18: 36 New
        +1
        So let's count the minuses of the SBU lickers. Even the mood improved.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 July 2020 14: 21 New
    +6
    Meanwhile, the Kremlin said that there are no Ukrainian citizens among the detainees, all of them are Russian citizens.
    In the plot, the detectives are resting. repeat
    The binding is real.
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 30 July 2020 14: 25 New
    0
    "PROVOCATION BROKEN - PNS Tried to Entice THREE TEN RUSSIANS IN LIBYA"
    An informant in the PNS disclosed to the journalists of the local TV channel LibyanTV the details of the detention of the employees of the PMSC “MAR” in Belarus. According to the source, a provocation was being prepared in Libya to confirm the alleged presence of the Wagner PMC's reconnaissance and sabotage group.
    A source in Tripoli said that the PNS was trying to "invite" the Russians to Libya: a plan was developed according to which the employees of the private military security company "MAR" were to arrive in Turkey, and from there to Tripoli. As a legend, the signing of an agreement between IDA and the Libyan National Oil Company was announced. Foreign special services had a hand in the development of this scheme.
    Cooperation with NOCs is just an excuse. According to the informant, the IDA employees were to be kidnapped and presented as "evidence" of the presence of the Wagner PMC's reconnaissance and sabotage group.
    https://iarex.ru/news/76715.html
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 July 2020 14: 35 New
      +6
      which versions do not appear on an Internet for any reason)
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 30 July 2020 14: 54 New
        -4
        Quote: carstorm 11
        which versions do not appear on an Internet for any reason)

        So after all, we do not have other sources of information, so we collect it on the internet. And there are indeed quite a few versions in it.
        If the above is true, the guys should thank Old Man for not getting stuck in a serious showdown.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 July 2020 14: 56 New
          0
          exactly) you think they are now sewing terrorism
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 30 July 2020 15: 40 New
      0
      But a provocation with a false hiring - it looks like a very likely version.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 30 July 2020 14: 26 New
    +5
    SBU intends to extradite from Belarus detained "Ukrainians" from PMC Wagner ©
    Neutral opinion: well, this is unlikely to happen. But father just "plays chess" in the current situation. I don’t believe that Russia will give up the detainees as “a pawn in this game”!
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 30 July 2020 14: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: paco.soto
      But father just "plays chess"

      But he is not a grandmaster. Oh, but father will play out to the "Chinese draw", that is, to the zugunder.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 30 July 2020 14: 43 New
        0
        But he is not a grandmaster. Oh, but father will play out to the "Chinese draw", that is, to the zugunder. ©
        I do not agree with you now.
        Regards to you.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 31 July 2020 13: 14 New
          0
          Quote: paco.soto
          I disagree with you now

          Nothing wrong. Agree later. hi
          1. paco.soto
            paco.soto 31 July 2020 22: 33 New
            +1
            Nothing wrong. Agree later. hi ©
            Let's see the development of these events.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 30 July 2020 14: 42 New
      +1
      Why not ? Russia has already extradited citizens to Ukraine
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 30 July 2020 14: 48 New
        +1
        Why not ? Russia has already extradited citizens to Ukraine ©
        Yes, it was in the legal reality of the current moment. Maybe, of course, the detainees will be "exchanged" in the political reality of the current moment.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 July 2020 14: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: paco.soto
      I don’t believe that Russia will give up the detainees as “a pawn in this game”!

      Until we break the spears. We will wait and see until there is sufficient information.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 30 July 2020 15: 55 New
        0
        Until we break the spears. We will wait and see until there is sufficient information. ©
        I absolutely agree with you now. I have it rudimentary - so Father discussed the news with friends and ya heard it small as white noise.
        Regards to you.
    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 July 2020 01: 02 New
      0
      Quote: paco.soto
      But father just "plays chess"

      Like that dove: do not sit down to play chess with a dove, he will scatter pieces, shit on the board and fly away to tell everyone how he beat you.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 31 July 2020 01: 11 New
        +1
        Like that pigeon: don't sit down to play chess with a pigeon, he will scatter pieces, shit on the board and fly away to tell everyone how he beat you. ©
        Like you for such a funny quote!
        But my metaphor about chess was about something else.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 July 2020 01: 19 New
          0
          Quote: paco.soto
          my metaphor about chess was about something else

          My opinion is that this is just in vain.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 July 2020 14: 28 New
    +2
    GDP does not give up its own. The only question now is, are they his own?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 July 2020 14: 36 New
      +7
      clearly said, We do not recognize their Ukrainian citizenship. They are citizens of Russia
  • svp67
    svp67 30 July 2020 14: 28 New
    12
    Meanwhile, the Kremlin said that there are no Ukrainian citizens among the detainees, all of them are Russian citizens.
    We do not recognize their Ukrainian citizenship. They are citizens of Russia
    - said the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov

    For me personally, a very important statement ... it is already good that they do not refuse and do not give up.
    1. paco.soto
      paco.soto 30 July 2020 14: 39 New
      +2
      For me personally, a very important statement ... it's already good that they don't refuse and don't give up. ©
      I liked you. But !, let's watch the development of the situation. According to Father, there is Belarus, and now, being in contact with Friends of Belarusians, I see this situation not so funny, just in case.
      1. svp67
        svp67 30 July 2020 14: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: paco.soto
        Friends I see this situation not so funny, just in case.

        I don't see any humor in it at all. Such events generally lead to wars between countries.
        1. paco.soto
          paco.soto 30 July 2020 15: 40 New
          +1
          I don't see any humor in it at all. Such events generally lead to wars between countries.
          Reply ©
          Neutral opinion :) "Pip your tongue"! I hope that Russia will "swallow" this detention. And there will be no inadequate response.
          Regards to you.
          1. svp67
            svp67 30 July 2020 15: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: paco.soto
            "Pip your tongue"!

            Thank you, "kind" man ... although for the sake of peace I am ready to be patient
            Quote: paco.soto
            I hope that Russia will "swallow" this detention. And there will be no inadequate response.

            Yes, I still see exactly the restraint and our lack of desire to "wave checkers"
            Quote: paco.soto
            Regards to you.

            hi
            1. paco.soto
              paco.soto 30 July 2020 16: 20 New
              +1
              Thank you, "kind" man ... although for the sake of peace I am ready to be patient
              Quote: paco.soto ©
              You have paralleled my answer a little now into your really correct logic.
              I can’t find points for discussion with you. smiled just in case.
              Regards to you.
  • Gennady Korsunov
    Gennady Korsunov 30 July 2020 14: 39 New
    -8
    And how do Ch. VK differ from a hired killer? For me only the name ..
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 30 July 2020 21: 29 New
      0
      As far as I understand, the difference is that PMCs are always controlled by the special services and carry out the orders of the "center", and sometimes hired killers. However, perhaps the more thoughtful will be able to name something else.
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 30 July 2020 14: 49 New
    -13 qualifying.
    at Kassad:
    4. Deputy Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine Krivonos proposed to transfer the detained citizens of Ukraine to Ukraine in order to "strengthen normal relations with it." According to him, he submitted an official request.

    if they did not have time to change passports for Russian ones, they will be issued with giblets, just like Russian colleagues themselves
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 30 July 2020 14: 57 New
      +6
      Have time, the citizen of ukraine "igoresh", engaged in trolling on the Russian site, have time !!
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 30 July 2020 15: 00 New
        -6
        you need to educate someone.
        RF citizen, Ukraine and Israel, blogger Alexander Lapshin was extradited to Azerbaijan with the consent of the Supreme Court of Belarus. His wife is sure that President Lukashenko's words influenced the court's decision.
        1. Alexander I
          Alexander I 30 July 2020 15: 29 New
          +2
          Three months later, Israel was pardoned and released to the homeland of their ancestors, Luke worked for the Azermedal received earlier, the Jews of his fellow tribesman, Aliyev's authority, in general, everyone is happy
  • certero
    certero 30 July 2020 14: 53 New
    +6
    Oh, dad is showing off. Does he really think that without Russia he will stay in power? The West will devour him in 5 minutes
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 July 2020 15: 00 New
    +2
    If everything ends up acceptable, for ours, then they will recognize the event as strange. And if not???
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 30 July 2020 15: 05 New
    +2
    Rare news about Ukraine without jokes in the comments.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 30 July 2020 15: 42 New
      -2
      tired of joking and laughing
    2. paco.soto
      paco.soto 30 July 2020 16: 11 New
      +2
      Rare news about Ukraine without jokes in the comments.
      Reply ©
      Indeed, I read the forum with interest and was not outraged by the delusional comments.
  • bar
    bar 30 July 2020 15: 08 New
    +6
    But father's campaign in the heat of the "pre-election struggle" managed to come but his own eggs. Perhaps he thought after the elections to quietly merge this situation. But in a hurry he forgot about the Ukrainians. How it will get out now is hard to say.
  • Whispering in the night
    Whispering in the night 30 July 2020 15: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: bar
    Butt hike

    Yes, he's not but bam for a long time, but avno in the hole.
  • magnate
    magnate 30 July 2020 15: 59 New
    +3
    At a meeting with the Acting Ambassador of Ukraine, the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus addressed the Ukrainian side regarding verification of the involvement of the detainees in committing crimes in Ukraine.
    Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus.
    Ah yes Zakharka, ah well done! A real internationalist!
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 30 July 2020 16: 03 New
      -2
      Zakhar Prilepin is a traitor ...
      1. magnate
        magnate 30 July 2020 17: 13 New
        +3
        He's just dunduk!
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 30 July 2020 16: 07 New
    0
    SBU intends to extradite detained "Ukrainians" from Belarus
    Today, 14:13 ©
    With a smile: air raid clearing !!!
    Googled it all. There is now the SBU head - some kind of young charlatan, even in the photo he looks comical.
    1. magnate
      magnate 30 July 2020 16: 21 New
      +1
      Don't be ridiculous, there are still a bunch of deputies and advisers who learned from the "wolfhound" from the KGB and others.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 30 July 2020 17: 01 New
        +2
        Don't be ridiculous, there are still a bunch of deputies and advisers who learned from the "wolfhound" from the KGB and others.
        Reply ©
        Neutral opinion: Russia is successful
        changed Poroshenko to her loyal presidency and a debilitating parliamentary majority in Ukraine. Now we need this - "how to lead ?!" or not?!
        Seriously: this is just a failure in geopolitics!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 July 2020 16: 32 New
    +3
    Let's wait and see what Luka has in mind, but giving the peasants to the Bandera savages would doom them to torment and death.
  • Lumumbo
    Lumumbo 30 July 2020 16: 32 New
    0
    As previously reported, among the detainees there are several people who had previously fought on the side of the people's republics of Donbass. Kiev intends to demand the extradition of these fighters.

    If Old Man gives them to the Outskirts, then in my eyes he will sink to ...
  • Garist Pavel
    Garist Pavel 30 July 2020 17: 36 New
    +6
    Yes, crap is going on here .. It is clear that the dissatisfaction with the authorities is huge, so they are ready to vote even for all sorts of women. She is against Russia, I remember well how her hubby interviewed the bastard-Shushkevich. How he grovelled before him. On the chest there is an image of fat-meat-fat. It is clear what the type is. Wife, of course, will also be like that. Regarding the detention, it hurt me that yesterday our TV showed about the wagner, they fought everywhere, in the WTC in Ukraine ....., began to use the word "militants" in relation to them ... If Russia wanted to really resolve the issue, it would be solved quickly and so according to Lokhovsky, well, it simply did not substitute it according to Lokhovsky. So there are really a lot of questions ...
  • Avsch
    Avsch 30 July 2020 19: 44 New
    0
    And I see a great betrayal on the part of Grigorich. Just an unforgivable betrayal! And he will hand over the boys on request, and do not go to the grandmother.
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 July 2020 20: 10 New
    -1
    Quote: AlexGa
    There are all the citizens of Russia, Russia and deal with them. No crimes have been committed in Belarus, they will sort it out and hand it over to the Russian side. In my opinion, the detention was carried out according to the principle "it is better to intercede than not to intercede".

    here is another option for you - an agreement - you give us a group of "athletes" - we detain them and loudly shout "guard, hooligans deprive them of sight" - they will "screw" the nut under this case - they will let the athletes down on the brakes, and after the elections no one is interested in what there was
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 July 2020 20: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: Avsch
    And I see a great betrayal on the part of Grigorich. Just an unforgivable betrayal! And he will hand over the boys on request, and do not go to the grandmother.

    citizens of the Russian Federation will transfer to Ukraine ???? very controversial ... the lads are then replaced, but when Grygorych comes to cut his head off, he will remain on his own
    1. Avsch
      Avsch 30 July 2020 20: 36 New
      0
      The actions of his last months, and his language, do not speak of anything good. It can easily go all-in.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 July 2020 20: 27 New
    +1
    Oh, those Russians, ultra-right, Arabic-speaking, neo-pagan Palestinian retirees and their Maidan Sheikh Wagner ...

    Seriously though, I do not exclude at all that these are really some, conditionally, chvkshniks (chopovtsy, etc.) from Russia with some task to catch something there in troubled water. It's just that what the hell was necessary to bring all the exhibits from the funds of the departmental museum of the KGB RB to the "search" ??? !!! After all, this even the real detention of real bad uncles (for example) turned into a ridiculous big top. laughing wassat There is a dried roach in the frame,

    this is a verdict for Gussky PMCs from the Internet) laughing
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 July 2020 20: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Avsch
    The actions of his last months, and his language, do not speak of anything good. It can easily go all-in.

    I do not deny the possibility of transferring .... I just do not know what is there and how it is about elections and chances. It's just that if he surrenders, they are replaced - there is someone for whom. But the consequences of such an action can be detrimental for the entire family of Grygorych as a result - then do not even spit in the well, but "shit big" into it and you will have to drink 100%
  • Diviz
    Diviz 30 July 2020 23: 49 New
    -2
    And what they have forgotten there in Belarus.
  • Alber alber
    Alber alber 31 July 2020 01: 28 New
    0
    It seems that the reason is also the political softness of Russia, we do not answer harshly, we hope that the sanctions will be lifted, we could not even close the drawbar of the ruin, still in the first places in trade, and much more, well, the basis of such softness, the economy, tightly stained to the West as a donor, except as the eternal "enemies of the people" nothing else comes to mind