In the Security Council of Belarus: "Some other groups are being formed near Pskov and Nevel"

Photo of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus

The situation with the detention of 32 citizens of the Russian Federation in the Minsk region is developing. Let us remind you that the day before the special operation was carried out by the Belarusian security forces, after which Alexander Lukashenko accused Russia of “trying to destabilize the situation”.

It became known that a criminal case was initiated against the detained Russians under a more than serious article: terrorism.

In Belarus, it is believed that all the detainees are part of the so-called "PMC Wagner".

Against this background, the statement of the Secretary of the Belarusian Security Council Andrei Ravkov was resonant. According to him, at the moment there are “170 more militants” on the territory of the Republic of Belarus and added the following:

They are trained in subversion and sniper. There is a risk mainly at mass events. Near Pskov and Nevel (Pskov region, - approx. "VO") some other groupings are being formed.

At the same time, Andrei Dmitriev, an opposition candidate, retells Ravkov's words in the Belarusian press. In turn, his statements are presented by the Tut.by portal.

According to him, the secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Bashkortostan said that some of the detainees during the interrogation said: "We have come to make a revolution."

Comments

[Bashkirkhan]

You need to stock up on popcorn. In some near-analytical circles for two to one and a half years there has been a real opinion that Lukashenka has lost his temper.

[Garant_Solntselikij]

In some near-analytical circles, for two to one and a half years there has been a real opinion that Lukashenka has lost his mind.

So Wagner came to treat the roof, well, well

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Garant_Solntselikij

Let us remind you that the day before the special operation was carried out by the Belarusian security forces, after which Alexander Lukashenko accused Russia of “trying to destabilize the situation”.

I will not believe that Lukashenka started this storm without Putin's knowledge! What if these are third-party people playing against Putin? Could it be that Putin gave the go-ahead for the arrest of Russian citizens? Most likely we will hear a lot more new things in this story. It looks like someone decided to strongly frame our president with far-reaching plans.

[helilelik]

I read that they were going to work at the PNS, so maybe very even with the knowledge.

[carstorm 11]

firstly, it is MAP. secondly, even the Poles know where they flew through Minsk and why. and not for the first time.

[Uncle lee]

"We have come to make a revolution."]

And the armored car from St. Petersburg rolled in! I am silent about "Aurora" because of the conspiracy!

[novel66]

give "Admiral Kuznetsov" off the coast of Belarus !!! Hello

[Uncle lee]

Quote: novel xnumx

off the coast of Belarus !!!

Roma Won't scare shrimp away?

[novel66]

no, there by the coast deep

[stas Sv]

The only thing - it can speed up spawning of cod

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

give "Admiral Kuznetsov" off the coast of Belarus !!

"Kuzya" is already raising a couple. We will protect Grygorych.

[Nosgoth]

If there is "Kuzya", the collective farmer will dump in an unknown direction.

[Alex 2020]

"Aurora" is already in the Belarusian Sea. We are waiting for the signal

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Alexey 2020

"Aurora" is already in the Belarusian Sea.

Aurora's draft is 6.4 meters. Svisloch in Minsk like 5.5. If you lighten it to the maximum ... then it can probably go

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Aurora's draft is 6.4 meters. Svisloch in Minsk like 5.5.

Start up the dredger ahead, there will be no problems.

[sabakina]

Quote: Uncle Lee

"We have come to make a revolution."]

And the armored car from St. Petersburg rolled in! I am silent about "Aurora" because of the conspiracy!

Volodya prYuvet! wondering who was supposed to be wearing the cap?

[Uncle lee]

Only worthy ones! !

[Kart]

And as a result, the entire Soviet management elite turned into them.
Maybe something is wrong in theory?

[Uncle lee]

Traitors have always been, Judas is their name ...

[kupitman]

they were all traitors.
all were unelected, irremovable, well ... yes, they were not paid in a bourgeois way, although the USSR was essentially state capitalism

[bnhmjvv]

Yes, it is necessary to bury this scarecrow in the end, and to redirect millions for its maintenance to orphanages, there will be more benefits.

[Vladimirsky]

Was there really an election in the USSR? Who fought hard for power?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sabakina

wondering who was supposed to be wearing the cap?

Is it really Luzhkov?

[mikh-korsakov]

Why they came to Belarus, one of their bosses knows. I would refrain from guessing. One thing is clear. Someone got bored. An anti-Russian hysteria of such proportions is being stirred up that Kerch and Salisbury seem like an easy prick. How it will be extinguished is unclear to me, because our ally has been substituted in the case. But the newspaper Kommersant has published all the data on these people, according to which it is not surprising to calculate their relatives. What is this for? She put their relatives in jeopardy, covered herself with shame. Or Kommersant, under the influence of the Khabarovsk events, went crazy with a premonition of a revolution in Russia. Can't wait, gentlemen

[To be or not to be]

You will look for what he was fired from the army as a lieutenant and with what diagnosis
And this is so along the way
http://www.compromat.ru/page_10496.htm

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: To be or not to be

And this is so along the way
http://www.compromat.ru/page_10496.htm

Good link. The designated actions of the AHL on the introduction of the Russian language as a second state language and anti-privatization and anti-corruption actions cause only respect.

[svp67]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

In some near-analytical circles for two to one and a half years there has been a real opinion that Lukashenka has lost his temper.

Reading this: "In his words, the secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Belarus said that some of the detainees during interrogation said:" We have come to make a revolution. " You understand that this is actually a war ...

[vvvjak]

Quote: svp67

You understand that this is actually a war ...

So I was suddenly not up to jokes.

[Olgovich]

Quote: svp67

Reading this: "In his words, the secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Belarus said that some of the detainees during interrogation said:" We have come to make a revolution. " You understand that this is actually a war ..

Lukashenka's roof was completely blown away: such insults in the direction of Russia, as terrorism "very few people allowed themselves.

and "revolution" - in WHOM? Who is the pro-Russian candidate in Belarus and is supported by Russia?

Exactly, it went off the rails ...

[svp67]

Quote: Olgovich

and "revolution" - in WHOM?

It's not in favor of whom, but AGAINST WHOM ... this is the main argument of his actions

[Olgovich]

Quote: svp67

It's not in favor of whom, but AGAINST WHOM ... this is the main argument of his actions

"against whom" implies the simultaneous "for whom".

And where is it?

[svp67]

Quote: Olgovich

And where is it?

Judging by where the Belarusians found the "forming" "terrorist groups", it looks like this "someone" is now "in a hut, in Razliv ..."

[mikh-korsakov]

Sergei! Someone in a hut in Razliv? Then I won’t envy him, we have the last days of showers with thunderstorms. One consolation after kovid the other day they again opened a restaurant there, and it is called "Shalash". So in between writing brilliant articles, he can go there to warm up, talk to the waiters and ask them "what is the mood of the workers? Tell them not to succumb to the provocations of the Mensheviks from" just Russia ", otherwise they will lead the proletariat away from the struggle, my friend !

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: svp67

It's not in favor of whom, but AGAINST WHOM ... this is the main argument of his actions

"against whom" implies the simultaneous "for whom".

And where is it?

And why did you even decide that you have the right to know "for whom." There are political games and you are in them from any side. Fact - Wagner is in Belarus, what did he forget there, came to support the dad? He has little strength in his country, right?
Apparently the Kremlin decided that NATO's borders are too far

[Olgovich]

Quote: Vol4ara

Fact - Wagner in RB, that he forgot there, came to support the dad?

Russian CITIZENS- in the Republic of Belarus. Violating NOTHING ..

And they work in "wagner" or "fivanger" and other LLC "Rosmoloko-who cares?

By the way, is Wagner banned in Belarus? Declared "terrorist?"

No?

So what are we talking about?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: Vol4ara

Fact - Wagner in RB, that he forgot there, came to support the dad?

Russian CITIZENS- in the Republic of Belarus. Violating NOTHING ..

And they work in "wagner" or "fivanger" and other LLC "Rosmoloko-who cares?

By the way, is Wagner banned in Belarus? Declared "terrorist?"

No?

So what are we talking about?

Having received weapons in their hands, these tourists (they came by accident before the elections, coincidence) in one moment turn into a threat. If you project this situation on the Russian Federation, you would be here now howling like wounded wolves

[svp67]

Quote: Vol4ara

Having received weapons in hand,

And they found him, that weapon?

[Okolotochny]

With arms in hand, these tourists

Do you have legalized the sale of firearms?

(we arrived quite by accident before the elections, coincidence)

Read the Polish press. Why are the Poles Russophobes, but even those are shocked by your president's outright "cranberry". Let me tell you a secret, now they fly to many countries, even to Georgia and Armenia through .... Minsk !!! And the borders are open, and it comes out cheaper.

[Terenin]

Quote: Okolotochny

Poles are Russophobes, but even those are shocked by your president's outright "cranberry".

Yeah no words

[Olgovich]

Quote: Vol4ara

Having received weapons in their hands, these tourists (they came by accident before the elections, coincidence) in one moment turn into a threat.

What is the "weapon"? condoms at the ready? What is their "threat"?

Quote: Vol4ara

If you project this situation on the Russian Federation, you would be here now howling like wounded wolves

If you project onto the Russian Federation, then (in theory) you need to grab 32 (or 3200, 32000) healthy non-drinkers of Belarus who came to Russia and charge them with ... a charge of terrorism (and suddenly they will get the weapon, and suddenly will they trample on a rally?)
Wildness! But so Grygorich did.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Vol4ara

Having received weapons in their hands, these tourists (they came by accident before the elections, coincidence) in one moment turn into a threat.

any person who has received a weapon turns into a threat. even a monkey that gets a grenade turns into a threat! what are the plans? arrest all who entered Belarus and for one all the macaques in the zoo and circus?

[snucerist]

The point is that such PMCs like Wagner should be banned primarily in Russia.
While Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation exists, according to which the recruitment, training, financing or other material support of a mercenary, as well as his use in an armed conflict or hostilities, is punishable by imprisonment for a term of four to eight years, and participation in an armed conflict as a mercenary - imprisonment from three to seven years.
And whatever one may say, what verbal loopholes do not invent, all members of PMCs like Wagner are real mercenaries.
So it is necessary either to change the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, or to begin to implement it.

[PSih2097]

Quote: snucerist

So it is necessary either to change the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, or to begin to implement it.

Do you really think that PMCs are acting on their own? Without an order from above? PMCs are the projected power of the state, when the state itself cannot act or this action is more costly in comparison with PMCs.
The commentary on the article is more chewy:

Mercenarism damages peaceful cooperation between states , and therefore a number of former Soviet republics (Ukraine (oh how ) Uzbekistan) in 1995 adopted a norm on criminal liability for mercenary activity. In international law, the Additional Protocols of June 8, 1977 to the Geneva Conventions of August 12, 1949, concerning the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, "On the Protection of War Victims" (Collection of international treaties of the USSR. Issue XLVI. M., 2001) recognized that the mercenary does not have the rights of a legal combatant, but is a war criminal and is subject to criminal punishment. The 1989 Convention on the Prohibition of the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries formulated a distinct composition of mercenarism.

Well and further:

The object of mercenary activity is international legal relations in the sphere of the use of regular armed forces of another state for an interstate armed conflict or military action.
The UN Charter categorically prohibits mercenarism: "Every state is obliged to refrain from organizing irregular forces or armed bands, including mercenaries, to invade the territory of another state."

US State Department - No, there was no such thing, we don't know anything, but what we know is classified ...

[Yarik]

Respect! I support 100%, because these bastards don't care where. Today in Belarus, and tomorrow and from Russia will not have to fly.

[Okolotochny]

The point is that such PMCs like Wagner should be banned primarily in Russia.

The law is bypassed .... legally. Officially, this is not a PMC, a PMC is a Western definition that we have adopted. Officially (most likely) it is a private Security Organization. An agreement is concluded for the armed protection of any property. And that's all. Everything is legal. Even the bodyguards of various businessmen do just that. A contract is concluded for the protection ... let's say a businessman's watch. And quite legally he is accompanied by armed guards.

[Nastia makarova]

and where does the border of NATO?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

and where does the border of NATO?

Despite the fact that this situation made it clear to Lukashenka where are friends and where not. Georgia and Ukraine were not enough, now there will also be Belarus

[Nastia makarova]

Belarus in NATO? who and where said this ??? and what is Georgia and Ukraine in NATO ???

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Belarus in NATO? who and where said this ??? and what is Georgia and Ukraine in NATO ???

And that Montenegro is in NATO, oh yes it is in NATO, but recently it was not, but how did it happen?

[Nastia makarova]

what carried you to some steppe? what kind of incoherent write ??? Belarus. NATO, Montenegro, Georgia and Ukraine

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

what carried you to some steppe? what kind of incoherent write ??? Belarus. NATO, Montenegro, Georgia and Ukraine

Is it so hard for you to associate one with the other? Chew?
No, Belarus is not in NATO, and Ukraine and Georgia. But Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia have been in NATO since 2004, and Croatia and Albania since 2009, and Montenegro since 2017. Then continue to chew, or maybe you can guess, no?

[Nastia makarova]

want to say that Belarus will join NATO?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

want to say that Belarus will join NATO?

I want to say that if everything that is written in the Republic of Belarus on this matter is true, then we have lost an ally, the Republic of Belarus will not enter NATO, but the vector of development will definitely change

[Nastia makarova]

Is there any other vector other than Russia?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Vol4ara

I want to say that if everything that is written in the Republic of Belarus about this is true

and if everything that is written in Belarus about this is NOT true? what then?

[svp67]

Quote: Vol4ara

Fact - Wagner in RB

So what? Officially, this is a "private security company", do you have them there?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Vol4ara

Fact - Wagner in RB

So what? Officially, this is a "private security company", do you have them there?

Yeah, magnets and aushans are guarding, it's strange that the five of their guards to Libya do not send

[svp67]

Quote: Vol4ara

Yeah, magnets and aushans are guarding, it's strange that the five of their guards to Libya do not send

Everyone has their own work ... An-2 does not fly from us to Africa either

[Vol4ara]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Vol4ara

Yeah, magnets and aushans are guarding, it's strange that the five of their guards to Libya do not send

Everyone has their own work ... An-2 does not fly from us to Africa either

Here I am about the same thing, the guards of the Pyaterochka do not go to Belarus in a crowd, and if they come, they will not pay attention to them. Everyone has their own job, and what kind of work do PMCs in Belarus have before the elections?

[svp67]

Quote: Vol4ara

Everyone has their own job, and what kind of work do PMCs in Belarus have before the elections?

We rested, gained strength before a long trip and a long business trip.
Didn't the availability of various documents in Arabic surprise you? Or do they write in Arabic in Belarus?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Vol4ara

Everyone has their own job, and what kind of work do PMCs in Belarus have before the elections?

We rested, gained strength before a long trip and a long business trip.
Didn't the availability of various documents in Arabic surprise you? Or do they write in Arabic in Belarus?

33 detained PMC fighters and 200 are on the wanted list, before the elections they were gaining strength in Belarus (there are few places for rest in the Russian Federation), and we will write down

[svp67]

Quote: Vol4ara

33 detained PMC fighters and 200 are wanted,

Well, at least here do not misinterpret ... these 33 are just part of those "mythical" 200.

Quote: Vol4ara

before the elections, we were gaining strength in Belarus (there are few places for rest in the Russian Federation), and we will write down

And what else to do while waiting for all the documents to be coordinated and the board will arrive ...
here you will not please. People behaved CULTURALLY, did not drink vodka, did not run after women ... and this immediately attracted attention. And the fact that in an Arab country all this is under the "ban" you did not think? So they were preparing, training willpower. And the fact that you have there another "srakopad", so they did not climb into it.
Yes, but what about the Arabic language in Belarus? Do you have it there at every step?
If they come to overthrow the government, then they do not need to "lie down" now, but to clarify the operational situation and its changes, and even at the places of upcoming actions, and for this, at least not to flaunt in military suits, but to wear jeans and go to cities, so that you can walk with your legs, and see with your eyes, everything that is there now and what has changed ... So that at the right moment you do not shy away, but act accurately

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Olgovich

"against whom" implies the simultaneous "for whom".

It's simple. Against Lukashenka, and for Lukashenka.

[English tarantas]

"against whom" implies the simultaneous "for whom".

Not necessary at all. The main thing is to let everything go downhill, and then the peremoga will come by itself.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Olgovich

Who is the pro-Russian candidate in Belarus and is supported by Russia?

Oddly enough, he It is the most predictable and user-friendly. Yes, he grumbles and sucks money, but he signs integration cards regularly.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Yes grumbles and sucks money

Now, if he did not do this, it would be very surprising.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Quote: Olgovich

Who is the pro-Russian candidate in Belarus and is supported by Russia?

Oddly enough, He is the most predictable and convenient. Yes, he grumbles and sucks money, but he signs integration cards regularly.

Pro-Russian - yes,
but whether it is supported by Russia is a big question.

[Zeev zeev]

The pro-Russian candidate in Belarus is Babariko, a former director of Belgazprombank, owned by Gazprom. He really is sitting now, but his wife is actively involved in the election campaign of Tikhanovskaya. And also Tsepkalo, who escaped from a possible arrest ... It was to Russia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ZeevZeev

The pro-Russian candidate in Belarus is Babariko, a former director of Belgazprombank, owned by Gazprom. He really sits now

The question is, does Russia need this? And even more so those candidates who are unpredictable. Either they "sit", sometimes they do not. "

[Zeev zeev]

Russia does not need a tame ruler in a neighboring country who will not argue with your president?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Russia does not need a tame ruler in a neighboring country who will not argue with your president?

He will be any, but pro-Russian. For the European Union for Belarus, as well as for Ukraine, is a pipe dream. Russia and Poland remain, but the latter is unlikely for two reasons. The first is that they are antagonists from time immemorial. The second is economic. What can Poland give Belarus? Never mind. What Poland can take is also nothing. But the product manufactured in Belarus is sold in Russia, and you can also get a lot from Russia, and not at European prices. So economic sanity will trump everything else. And the peoples of Russia and Belarus, as always, were the closest than others.

[Zeev zeev]

You know poorly the history of relations between Belarus and. Russia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ZeevZeev

You know poorly the history of relations between Belarus and. Russia.

Not very much, because all my relatives on my mother's side, and my own sister, live in Minsk.

[Zeev zeev]

Then tell us what the BPR, the Slutsk uprising, Bulak-Bulakhovich, Kurapaty are ... At least what are "pamyarkouns".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ZeevZeev

what is the BPR, the Slutsk uprising, Bulak-Bulakhovich, Kurapaty ..

And I heard about the BPR and about Lastovsky, but about Bulakhovich's gangs are well known both in Belarus and in the Smolensk region. where I lived in the District Center Dukhovshchina stands a grave pedestal for the murdered. I was in Kurapaty, my sister lives on Tikotsky (Green Meadow), but I don't know about anything else.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: ZeevZeev

The pro-Russian candidate in Belarus is Babariko, a former director of Belgazprombank, owned by Gazprom.

Speak more precisely: progazpromovsky.

Quote: ZeevZeev

his wife is actively involved in the election campaign of Tikhanovskaya.

His wife died 3 years ago. Common-law wife him (a musician and a surfer), yes, he actively participates in the election campaign having European citizenship.
Musicians and surfers living in two countries are the best experts in the aspirations of hard workers!
It’s good that she’s not a cellist: there’s not a lot of bucks in a flute case.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: ZeevZeev

He really is sitting now, but his wife is actively involved in the election campaign of Tikhanovskaya

His wife has been gone for a long time ... At least check the information a little

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Olgovich

and "revolution" - in WHOM? Who is the pro-Russian candidate in Belarus and is supported by Russia?

Well, not in favor of Russia, maybe in favor of Poland.

[Arlen]

Quote: Olgovich

such an insult towards Russia as terrorism "very few people allowed themselves

Germany has officially accused Russia of contract murder.
Sponsor of terrorism: US Congress called on Russia to be punished.
the chief of British counterintelligence equated Russia with terrorists.
The head of the British General Staff: Russia is the number 1 threat to Britain. Putin is much more dangerous than Islamic terrorists.
Russia is a terrorist country: Sweden accused Russia of terrorist attacks in Gothenburg.
Denmark called on to attack Russia in cyberspace.
And so on, and so on, and so on. There are many who have allowed themselves to speak even worse about Russia than Lukashenka.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Olgovich

The Lukashenka was completely blown away: very few people allowed themselves such an insult towards Russia as terrorism.

and "revolution" - in WHOM? Who is the pro-Russian candidate in Belarus and is supported by Russia?

Exactly, it went off the rails ...

Let's not equate PMCs with Russia!
The interests of the countries are realized by the army, the SVR, ... i.e. government agencies;
PMCs work on the orders of specific oligarchic groups.
"-" to you.

[Doctor]

You understand that this is actually a war ...

Do not frighten people. Watch the video, there are Arabic phrasebooks among the subjects, the guys went to the South. The lining came out, or we were reinsured.

Originator:

During the arrest, no items prohibited in Belarus were found. They also did not violate the law of this country. Each was interviewed in a 20-minute, non-violent conversation. After interrogations, the corpus delicti was never established. They have not been charged.

[Moore]

The feeling that Father and his comrades decided to play the last trump card - relations with the Russian Federation.
According to my modest life experience, the speeches of the siloviki are worthless. After being a bureaucrat in Rosrezerv, I once received a letter from one regional department of the FSB that from Chechnya (2007 in the courtyard, just in case) a super-secret group of militants moved in our direction in order to blow up as many as three containers with chemical rubbish left over from mob reserve of a non-existent plant. Before that we were besieged by one local majorik, whom they prevented from building a shopping center.
Although the possibility cannot be ruled out that someone surrounded by Butler started playing by his own rules.

[private person]

In some near-analytical circles, for two to one and a half years there has been a real opinion that Lukashenka has "lost his mind.

Well, yes, Russia sells oil and gas to them at inflated prices. But now it turns out that he wants to make a revolution, it's not enough for Russia to have one mess on the border. And Luka did not think where he would go if something happened, because except in Russia he will not be accepted anywhere.

[figwam]

Quote: private person

And Luka did not think where he would go if something happened, because except in Russia he has no where

After this, the road to Rostov is closed to him.

[evgenii67]

Quote: figvam

After this, the road to Rostov is closed to him.

The Smolensk region is closer. Reg. 67

[PSih2097]

Quote: evgenii67

Quote: figvam

After this, the road to Rostov is closed to him.

The Smolensk region is closer. Reg. 67

he is needed here, there are enough of his own idlers, by the way, Smolensk was supposed to be the capital of the union state of the RF-RB, but something went wrong with the dad ...

[Thrifty]

Lukashenko has gone too far, Putin will not forgive him such meanness! Father is waiting for his own collective farm named after him, and the role of the foreman of tractor drivers is at best. ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Thrifty

Lukashenko has gone too far, Putin will not forgive him such meanness! Father is waiting for his own collective farm named after him, and the role of the foreman of tractor drivers is at best. ...

Are you out of your mind or are you on the payroll here? Wagner came there to sunbathe? This Lukashenka will not forgive such meanness, we are waiting for NATO exercises near Lgov

[Thrifty]

Volchara, I'm out of my mind, and I'm not sitting here on a salary, as you blurted out! And when was life easy for Russia? And Lukashenka should have understood that the word freebie is not a synonym for the word immortality!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Vol4ara

This Lukashenka will not forgive such meanness

Let's face it. What are Belarus and Lukashenko in general? In principle, from the point of view of statehood, nothing. A fragment of the empire, by the will of fate, which accidentally became a parody of the state. (like all former republics). The territory that is used as a bargaining chip in the geopolitical games of major players. Belarusians, no offense. What does your imaginary "independence" give you? Except to amuse your vanity, nothing. If you continue to get carried away with games for the notorious "independence" then you will become Ukrainians, with all that it implies. Take your pick, examples are right at your side.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: orionvitt

Quote: Vol4ara

This Lukashenka will not forgive such meanness

Let's face it. What are Belarus and Lukashenko in general? In principle, from the point of view of statehood, nothing. A fragment of the empire, by the will of fate, which accidentally became a parody of the state. (like all former republics). The territory that is used as a bargaining chip in the geopolitical games of major players. Belarusians, no offense. What does your imaginary "independence" give you? Except to amuse your vanity, nothing. If you continue to get carried away with games for the notorious "independence" then you will become Ukrainians, with all that it implies. Take your pick, examples are right at your side.

Belarus is a country that borders on the one hand with the NATO bloc, and on the other hand with the Russian Federation. This is an extremely important country for the Russian Federation, and if we really sent Wagner fighters there for some purpose, and even allowed their disclosure ... it's just n ****

[orionvitt]

Quote: Vol4ara

Belarus is a country

That's right, a country that never became a state. If you have state attributes (coat of arms, flag, anthem), this does not mean anything yet.

if we really sent Wagner fighters there for some purpose, and even allowed them to be revealed ... it's just n ****

From my, purely amateurish and divan-analytical point of view, If Russia, someone, for some reason, sent, then the hell would someone reveal whom. Not that school, and not that power that would be so punctured. In addition, the first question that the investigator always asks himself is who benefits from it. Russia sent mercenaries (and so clumsily ). what would overthrow Lukashenka? Yes, I will not believe in life. Lukashenko, as they say, even with ... son, but ours with .... son. A more plausible version, with which I agree, is that Lukashenka played with his own power and got entangled in his own policy, began to take inappropriate steps. In addition, intrigues in Lukashenka, as well as in the general Belarusian policy, frankly, zero. Everything is clean, transparent, all thoughts and actions are in plain sight .. As in Ukraine. The only thing that is alarming is that "the last dictator of Europe", in a blind pursuit of power, can break such wood that then Russia will have to rake up guano for thirty years. But how you want to be, albeit small, but the emperor and the son of the prince, to transfer power by inheritance. And so that only everyone owes you, and you owe nothing to anyone. But this just does not happen in life, so we will look further at the events in Belarus.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: orionvitt

In addition, intrigues in Lukashenka, as well as in the general Belarusian policy, frankly, are zero. Everything is clean, transparent, all thoughts and actions are in plain sight.

But not everything is visible in Russian politics.
Yes, at least to divert attention from the Far East, a lot is possible.
By the way, the scales are comparable.

[St Petrov]

Yes, at least to distract attention from the DV

fabulous extravaganza from the analyst in the haze

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Vol4ara

and if we really sent Wagner fighters there for some purpose, and even allowed their disclosure ... it's just n ****

Do you seriously believe that people who came to do something bad in a foreign state, check in ALL TOGETHER in ONE hotel, WITH OWN PASSPORTS, will calmly walk in camouflage ???. It was also necessary to hang a sign on everyone's forehead: - I am from "PMC Wagner" and came to overthrow Old Man)))))
Even if we admit nonsense that this is so, there remains a simple question: -What the hell is Russia ??)) There is no about Russian candidates! And one more Ukraine nearby is EXACTLY not needed ...

[your1970]

Quote: Vol4ara

waiting for NATO exercises near Lgov

Let me remind you about the EU sanctions against Lukashenka. For joining NATO - in Belarus not there must be Lukashenka ...
Even if he comes running and repent, they kicked him too long as the last dictator of Europe

[vladimirvn]

It looks like we are losing Belarus as an ally. The "witch hunt" has begun. Another "color revolution" is not far off.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

In some near-analytical circles for two to one and a half years there has been a real opinion that Lukashenka has lost his temper.

Lukashenka is a pensioner by age. However, a psychiatric examination by a specialist Shchigelsky was done long before these events. This has not been formally denied by government medical services or law enforcement agencies. The disease described by Dr. Shchigelsky can worsen with age.
Back in 2001, doctor Shchigelsky made a professional conclusion that Alexander Lukashenko was at least a psychopath. But the main danger lies in the fact that, from the point of view of psychiatrists, his psychopathy has paranoid features, which are also characteristic of dissocial personality disorder in the presence of a core overvalued idea of ​​his own significance. The final diagnosis, as it was not difficult, in general, was to guess - "mosaic psychopathy". The same diagnosis was made in such famous characters as Hitler and Stalin. Mussolini also suffered from it, and in general this disease is characteristic of many historical figures. For example, Ivan the Terrible, from the point of view of modern psychiatry, is one hundred percent psychopath.

[igordok]

They are trained in subversion and sniper. There is a risk mainly at mass events. Near Pskov and Nevel (Pskov region, - approx. "VO") some other groupings are being formed.

And no one hides that on August 2 in Nevel, and even more so in Pskov, "some groups" will be formed, at one time trained in many things, to participate in public events (at least swimming in a fountain).

[novel66]

you cannot fight without weapons. apparently, the remaining 170 people are digging weapons from the war in the forests of Belarus. MG-42 is power!

[Bashkirkhan]

The rest were supposed to drop off the planes in the morning at the Batka residence, but the operation was disrupted.

[NIKN]

Roma hello! Playing the card of Russia in any situation is a win-win. Russia will not go anywhere, but you will raise the rating, and maybe some money will be thrown into the defense of democracy and the West will not put a spoke in the wheels. After all, the west is not particularly delighted with Lukashenka .... So that everything is logical and everything is according to plan. In another version, the Maidan will suit the West, they have been swallowing saliva for a long time ... So, somehow everything is so. I'm going to get some beer.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: NIKNN

After all, in the west, they are not particularly delighted with Lukashenka .... So that everything is logical and everything is according to plan

They have already tried to intimidate the EU ambassadors when the candidates were arrested and hid in the KGB pre-trial detention center without the right to see lawyers. So there, too, they see where the mustachioed is driving. True, they will not do anything, but that is a different question.

[novel66]

hi

I'm going to get some beer

happy! and I should go to Moscow

[NIKN]

Quote: novel xnumx

and I should go to Moscow

Have a good trip!

[Uncle lee]

Maxim is good too!

[Kart]

Severe infection. And the water must be filled.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Carte

Heavy

Duc easel! Two world wars passed ... And here and there still in the ranks!

[Zeev zeev]

And who said that the weapons were not brought in and were not put into caches several years before the current situation? There is practically no border between Russia and Belarus; a tank division could be held there.

[novel66]

in vain, chtoli, the exercises were carried out there? sure enough, they dug in, maybe the soldiers are still sitting in the caches

[Zeev zeev]

In the 1920s, Soviet "rebels" regularly launched attacks on the eastern borders of the Second Rzeczpospolita (present-day Western Belarus). So they crossed the border without weapons, and took it just in the caches on the Polish side. These records were organized by the Cheka-OGPU back in the early 20s and periodically replenished with the help of smugglers.
In the current reality, bringing a batch of weapons across the transparent border and putting them in a warehouse in an industrial zone on the outskirts of Vitebsk, Orsha or even Minsk leaves no problem.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: novel xnumx

you cannot fight without weapons. apparently, the remaining 170 people are digging weapons from the war in the forests of Belarus. MG-42 is power!

In your opinion, it was necessary to detain them with artillery, aviation and tanks

[novel66]

they are dangerous people! in my opinion it was necessary to immediately cover them with "Buratina"

[Okolotochny]

In your opinion, it was necessary to detain them with artillery, aviation and tanks

That is, if there is no weapon, which means there is no violation of the law, then well, this law is in fig? Or is the law a fake act of your father and the secretary of the Security Council?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Okolotochny

In your opinion, it was necessary to detain them with artillery, aviation and tanks

That is, if there is no weapon, which means there is no violation of the law, then well, this law is in fig? Or is the law a fake act of your father and the secretary of the Security Council?

Ahaha dad "mine", just like Zelensky "your", I'm from St. Petersburg, I just look at things rationally, without hurray of patriotism and hatred

[Terenin]

Quote: Okolotochny

In your opinion, it was necessary to detain them with artillery, aviation and tanks

That is, if there is no weapon, which means there is no violation of the law, then well, this law is in fig? Or is the law a fake act of your father and the secretary of the Security Council?

In fact, it turned out that way.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

the remaining 170 people are digging weapons from the war in the forests of Belarus.

Why dig, let them ask around the villages, the huts. The guys will rush.

[Polente the Wanderer]

It’s not the roof that’s gone, but it’s just very hard to part with the power, especially if later, when he’s not in power, they can make various claims under various pretexts.

[Garant_Solntselikij]

Not the roof went, but it's just very hard to part with the power

Well, now it is clear why Wagner came, but dad is not Yanukovych, he has all the red moods quickly under the knife)

[Polente the Wanderer]

If Wagner hadn’t come, they would have found others to blame

[Thrifty]

Wanderer Polente - this one would come instead of Wagner. .. chased ??, and ... Pogonini !!!!

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Wanderer Polente

If Wagner hadn’t come, they would have found others to blame

But he came right? And what would have happened if I would not have granted it is speculation

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Garant_Solntselikij

only dad is not Yanukovych,

Yeah, and no one will take him to Rostov on mi-8 if something happens.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Quote: Garant_Solntselikij

only dad is not Yanukovych,

Yeah, and no one will take him to Rostov on mi-8 if something happens.

And this may not be required, after such a blow in the back, he can safely let his friends from NATO into the country, build a base and fly by plane to Spain, like Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and others who have already been forgotten

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Vol4ara

And this may not be required, after such a blow in the back, he can safely let his friends from NATO into the country, build a base and fly by plane to Spain, like Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and others who have already been forgotten

Well, say hello to him - "Good road"! And the people of Belarus, in the absence of its dictatorial system, will say their word themselves and freely, with whom they should be and whether to be a union state!

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Vladimir61

Quote: Vol4ara

And this may not be required, after such a blow in the back, he can safely let his friends from NATO into the country, build a base and fly by plane to Spain, like Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and others who have already been forgotten

Well, say hello to him - "Good road"! And the people of Belarus, in the absence of its dictatorial system, will say their word themselves and freely, with whom they should be and whether to be a union state!

So the people of Belarus have long been saying how many Russophobic rallies have already taken place ... Thanks to the dad, they did not have a continuation, and without him - hello second Poland

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Vol4ara

Thanks to dad, they did not have a continuation, and without him - hello, second Poland

Thanks to Batka, this whole performance was conceived and implemented as planned! He is trying to sell himself, and with it the fraternal people, at a higher price. I think that such a number will not work with the Belarusians!

[Okolotochny]

And this may not be required, after such a blow in the back, he can safely let his friends from NATO into the country, build a base

Here it is, your whole "brotherly" essence - and if anything, we will build a NATO base. I will answer with the words of the hero S. Badrov from the film "Brother", an episode in the tram about "brothers".

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Okolotochny

And this may not be required, after such a blow in the back, he can safely let his friends from NATO into the country, build a base

Here it is, your whole "brotherly" essence - and if anything, we will build a NATO base. I will answer with the words of the hero S. Badrov from the film "Brother", an episode in the tram about "brothers".

Fraternal essence this should be when PMCs are sent to your country before the elections. I am sure that Belarusians really think so now, as in a tram

[Gunter prereen]

So he began to play the anti-Russian card "sayuznyk". He wants to show and prove, “I am the same for Russi!” Well, as they say, against and against, why be ashamed.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Gunter Preen

So he began to play the anti-Russian card "sayuznyk". He wants to show and prove, “I am the same for Russi!” Well, as they say, against and against, why be ashamed.

Mercenaries from Russia in Belarus, and Lukashenka is playing the anti-Russian card.
How much do you get paid for posts?

[codetalker]

How much do you get paid?) You covered the whole branch with nonsense. Who established the fact that they are mercenaries or work in some kind of PMC? In general, it is not very clear on what grounds they were detained?

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Vol4ara

Mercenaries from Russia in Belarus, and Lukashenka is playing the anti-Russian card.
How much do you get paid for posts?

Somewhere already heard this in 2013!
And the mercenaries are interesting ... they arrived without violating not only the rules of crossing the border, but also other laws of Belarus, they did not hide their citizenship, they did not have false documents, settled in a sanatorium, openly posted the strict rules of the group's behavior before departure to their destination, or political life, they were not interested in local sights, meetings and contacts with local politicians were not recorded, they made an order for tickets.
Revival of Stalinism and Yezhovism of the 21st century. Even Poles are "twisting at their temples" discussing the statements made by the "Father of the Nation" circle.

[Inorus]

Quote: Vol4ara

Quote: Gunter Preen

So he began to play the anti-Russian card "sayuznyk". He wants to show and prove, “I am the same for Russi!” Well, as they say, against and against, why be ashamed.

Mercenaries from Russia in Belarus, and Lukashenka is playing the anti-Russian card.
How much do you get paid for posts?

And you? Given how stubbornly you repeat the same thing

[Gunter prereen]

))))))) Mercenaries. I don't get paid. This is from the heart, believe Litvin. Not everyone is as corrupt as you and your kind. All this is another performance of your ussat. "Russian mercenaries arrived in camouflage with chevrons, etc." All this nonsense, it’s not for us Russians, but for you Litvin, you are being held for idiots. And judging by your comment, this is so!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gunter Preen

So he began to play the anti-Russian card "sayuznyk". He wants to show and prove, "I am the same protagonist of Russi!"

Rather not for proof, but playing such a card, he thinks to get the votes of the anti-Russian element in the elections. With the electorate now he has a strain.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Gunter Preen

So he began to play the anti-Russian card "sayuznyk". He wants to show and prove, "I am the same protagonist of Russi!"

Rather not for proof, but playing such a card, he thinks to get the votes of the anti-Russian element in the elections. With the electorate now he has a strain.

And lose a bunch of pro-Russian, which maybe more

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Vol4ara

And lose a bunch of pro-Russian, which maybe more

hasn't he lost it yet? after this circus may well lose

[Vol4ara]

Quote: SanichSan

Quote: Vol4ara

And lose a bunch of pro-Russian, which maybe more

hasn't he lost it yet? after this circus may well lose

Let's see what the court says. There will be a circus or not a circus

[Alber alber]

You just made it funny about the court, test!

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Alber Alber

You just made it funny about the court, test!

And why not)) Everyone knows that in Russia the most honest and fair court, especially everyone knows about it on this forum, though somehow it didn't work out nicely with Golunov, many regulars of the forum were so thin last time)) Now let's see what kind of court in Belarus)

[AU Ivanov.]

Coronovirus, it turns out, not only affects the lungs, but also the brain.

[cniza]

No, it just speeds up the processes that have already taken place ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Coronovirus, it turns out, not only affects the lungs, but also the brain.

Well, in Belarus there was no caronavirus, there was no quarantine either. I safely flew from Tallinn to Minsk and back without any problems.

[AU Ivanov.]

So Daddy recently announced that he had no symptoms of covid. Here are the consequences.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

So Daddy recently announced that he had no symptoms of covid.

Something a lot of these unsystematic ones have divorced, and Prince Charlie, and Boris Johnson, and Old Man and even Peskov, but for some reason there are no consequences. Interestingly they hurt.

[St Petrov]

Boris almost drove off, but showed a Russian character

[tihonmarine]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Boris almost drove off, but showed a Russian character

No, it's just that he's a better actor, but Charlie sat for three days and got tired of him. But Old Man did not even sit in quarantine, but simply "I will" threw it in. That's who was able to sit so it Sands.

[Gunter prereen]

No, it was not like that. When he left him, the virus that flew to Belarus, the ussaty took it upon himself, caught it and saved all Litvin!

[Plato]

Until Father will be allowed to mock the Russian people. It is high time to poison the mustached cockroaches with "Nord-Ost"

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Platon

Until Father will be allowed to mock the Russian people. It is high time to poison the mustached cockroaches with "Nord-Ost"

To poison it is you masters. But the thought must be turned on.
Even if the “team” went along the beaten track, then the escape route had to be provided. What we have is the second day from Russia official statements / presenting ZERO !!! But who and what can say from the “wild geese” question- Did they go for the yuabl? and they can sprinkle the dough or ... glue the time. I don’t envy the boys, but you express concern. Time is already on their side since this case was publicized.
All information is received hot, but here it starts to rot

[Poetry]

As my army friend, a Belarusian, used to say: "Deuki, take off the plauks."
Is the 76th division preparing to destabilize the situation in Belarus?
Hmmm ...

[Victorio]

Ostap suffered (s)

[rotmistr60]

"Have come to make a revolution."

In this situation, the Belarusian side is trying to outstrip even the Ukrainian in lying and presenting information. Well, now the entire "progressive" world and all "civilized" mankind will finally understand what Russia is capable of "interfering" in other people's elections and will amicably support Mr. Lukashenko. And what a balm for the souls of the Americans - their press has already begun to exaggerate another Russian interference in their upcoming elections, and here Lukashenka presented them with such a gift.

[cniza]

Everything would be fine, but what all this could result in Lukashenka himself does not understand, he creates a situation in which some will be forced to push him away, while others will use to push him away ...

[New Year day]

Quote: rotmistr60

Well, now the entire "progressive" world and all "civilized" mankind will finally understand what Russia is capable of "interfering" in other people's elections and will amicably support Mr. Lukashenko. And what a balm to the soul for the Americans

quite right. Moreover, Pompeo warned Patrushev that if he intervened in Belarus, the consequences would be very strong.

[St Petrov]

listen to the words of ... Pompeo himself?
you should have been born an American, Sylvester. And not this is all. And they would cease to be sad and medicine would be gorgeous and socialism for the unemployed even !! 1
Would have ordered ..

Here I sympathize with all my heart. I would also like you and other local patriots of a high standard of living to be Americans. they also need simple heroes, hard workers, socialists

look, he kind of describes perspectives

it was necessary not to Crimea, but to California, Sylvester. And the passport immediately addressed to Sylvester.
And then the Petrovs and Ivanovs, they vote for Putin and take away childhood from their children

[St Petrov]

to be born. I am ahead of teachers

[Vol4ara]

Quote: rotmistr60

"Have come to make a revolution."

In this situation, the Belarusian side is trying to outstrip even the Ukrainian in lying and presenting information. Well, now the entire "progressive" world and all "civilized" mankind will finally understand what Russia is capable of "interfering" in other people's elections and will amicably support Mr. Lukashenko. And what a balm for the souls of the Americans - their press has already begun to exaggerate another Russian interference in their upcoming elections, and here Lukashenka presented them with such a gift.

So why did Wagner go there? Why did Lukashenka present a gift?

[cormorant]

And what a balm for the souls of the Americans - their press has already begun to exaggerate another Russian interference in their upcoming elections, and here Lukashenka presented them with such a gift.

Just about, well, whose ally he is after that.

[RVAPatriot]

See how it was before the other elections. There was always something loud, the dad cannot live without it. Wait, he was pressed, because the people were really tired of him ... Today there is a rally of his competitor, a good reason to cancel it ... He is simply afraid, ready to play any card, just to stay in power. So, it's not a fact that there is a PMC or some kind of military group, you just need to distract the people. Which he is trying to do. Window dressing and fear. And his diagnosis was mild schizophrenia for a couple of years!

[Angelo Provolone]

I think Lukashenka will be removed. My uncle's roof has gone ...

[iouris]

Quote: Angelo Provolone

My uncle's roof has gone ...

And who's uncle's "roof"?
Nothing special is happening yet. This is such a peculiar style inherent in this leader.

[cniza]

So it can and so, only this style can create a situation that gets out of control ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: iouris

Quote: Angelo Provolone

My uncle's roof has gone ...

And who's uncle's "roof"?
Nothing special is happening yet. This is such a peculiar style inherent in this leader.

Uncle's roof was in the Kremlin and she went a long time ago

[New Year day]

Quote: Angelo Provolone

Lukashenka will be removed.

very interesting who?

[bar]

In the pro-government structures of Belarus, there is an epidemic of schizophrenia with a mania of persecution on the basis of the next elections of "the last dictator of Europe."

[parusnik]

Off-topic comment. I read the headlines of the latest news and news, the impression: a mental hospital on vacation ... without a specific time limit ...

[cniza]

A similar impression or someone is very smart or someone's roof has moved down ...

[New Year day]

Quote: parusnik

mental dispensary on vacation ... without a specified time ...

New Year's holidays will not end in any way, but the watchman locked the gate and lost the key

[Anchonsha]

Well, yes, it was not the West, not the Psheki and the Balts, who "remade" the Belarusians to look like real Russophobes, but Batka himself, for whom power is something that cannot exist in Belarus without his participation. Old Man understood that Russia is restructuring the country in the direction that the Belarusians themselves need. But Old Man is only interested in power in the Republic of Belarus, as well as outright nationalists Belarusians like Makei and immigrants from those territories who were under the rule of Poland and were annexed to Belarus after the capture of Poland by Hitler. So, the roof went not only for Batka, but also for many Belarusians. Both Old Man and these Belarusian Bandera supporters by arresting some Russian Wagnerites want to show the West that Russia is trying to seize power in Belarus. Well, how can we now consider them a union state? How can they now be given interest-free loans, discounts on oil and gas ?????? Either it will still be ahead.

[rocket757]

... According to him, the secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Bashkortostan said that some of the detainees during interrogation stated:

In general, they warned about something like this ...
On the other hand, those who, as they say, arranged the transit of "workers" through Minsk, had to THINK what was happening there and how .... not a great mind, however. Let this work quite well for itself, but it is NECESSARY to follow the situation! They are no strategists ...

[cniza]

Greetings!
I have the impression that someone's roof has completely moved down and he does not quite understand what all this will result in ...

[rocket757]

Hi
And there is only one bet in this "game"! Always a winner, doesn't want to be a loser.
Everything is clear, but as it turned out, not everyone.

[cniza]

Yes, it is getting sadder and sadder, it will light up easily to extinguish it will not be possible ...

[vvvjak]

Quote: cniza

he does not quite understand what all this will result in ...

And what? Will the Russian Foreign Ministry express concern or will they declare a complete embargo of Belarus? Are the elections declared not legitimate? Yes, for a long time already everything is "on the drum" for him, but for us (in the sense of Belarusians) it will only get worse. For 25 years, the Russian Federation has been busy with AHL as with a written bag, now they are reaping the results of their activities. If the Kremlin swallows this pill too, I myself will become an ardent fan of the European integration of Belarus.

[carstorm 11]

what should I do then?)

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

what should I do then?)

Yes, it should have been done earlier. Support pro-Russian politicians, shove them into parliament, power, lobby their interests and protect investments, and at least once insist on a transparent vote count in elections. Now what? If the Russian Federation "fits" for PMKashnikov, it means that it is a sponsor of terrorism.

[carstorm 11]

why suddenly? it will fit in primarily for its citizens. here in another matter. the fact that the dad decided to drive into paradise on a crooked goat is clear to everyone. but what is he going to do with it in the coming days? will announce an emergency? martial law? what does he want? he cannot but understand that they will not forgive him. after all, according to their data, 170 people go somewhere. and it will have to be explained somehow.

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

but what is he going to do with it in the coming days?

Who can take it apart. It feels like he himself does not understand what he is doing. Let's hope it's just PR in this way.

Quote: carstorm 11

will announce an emergency? martial law?

This is what scares me. I am still listed as an officer in reserve. I'm not going to shoot people at rallies or Russians.

Quote: carstorm 11

he cannot but understand that he will not be forgiven

Yes, while everything somehow got away with it. The last example with "Belgazprombank" - the main competitor was imprisoned (which was considered the most pro-Russian among Belarusians) and the bank "squeezed out" and nothing. And for 25 years there are many such "feats".

[cniza]

Quote: vvvjak

Yes, it should have been done earlier. Support pro-Russian politicians, shove them into parliament, power, lobby their interests and protect investments, and at least once insist on transparent vote counting in elections ..

And that means you will watch how Russia rests and eat the bulb, and you have done what or someone has to do everything for you, let's get together ...

[vvvjak]

Quote: cniza

And that means you will watch how Russia rests and eat the bulb, and you have done what or someone has to do everything for you, let's get together ...

I'm afraid that nothing depends on you and me. My opinion is that only the Kremlin can radically change the situation in Belarus, but for some reason it is not doing anything yet.

[cniza]

Because he also needs to be shoved, and in order for him to move, we must send signals, there is the press, there are deputies, there are round tables, but there are a lot of streams that will reach their destination ...

[cniza]

Quote: vvvjak

And what? Will the Russian Foreign Ministry express concern or will they declare a complete embargo of Belarus? Are the elections declared not legitimate? Yes, for a long time already everything is "on the drum" for him, but for us (in the sense of Belarusians) it will only get worse. For 25 years, the Russian Federation has been busy with AHL as with a written bag, now they are reaping the results of their activities. If the Kremlin swallows this pill too, I myself will become an ardent fan of the European integration of Belarus.

I am not a supporter of guessing on the coffee grounds, soon everything will be clarified and we will all see who, whom, where and for what ...

And who is stopping you from integrating into Europe, some have already gone this way, or you need to feel it on your own skin ...

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

They are no strategists ...

it became clear after Ukraine, at least for me.

[rocket757]

You can find more and more, where the same and the same result. Of course, you can't always win, but balance is +. - I want to see positive.

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

but balance +. - I want to see positive.

I want, but why only "-"

[rocket757]

Since there are a lot of players outside, and for, consider not, no one expects a special result! But within the country, his own hand is the lord !!! A negative result does not suit us in any way .... you can make an indulgence, for an obvious force majeure, but this is all temporary, patience is not endless.

[postum]

As if in August in Belarus "little green men" did not appear, although Old Man has been preparing for them since 2014 ...

[Alexander 1386]

In other public news, they write that these are fighters of the IDA PMC, and they went to Turkey, and then to Libya, to guard the oil tanker of the PNS

[cniza]

According to him, the secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Bashkortostan said that some of the detainees during the interrogation said: "We have come to make a revolution."

Who is driving all this nonsense, and most importantly why ...

[prior]

I correctly understood that it is possible for the Wagnerites to come to Belarus to "make a revolution"?
I remember the CIA all over the world used similar tactics of regime change. What is the difference?
Is it that the Wagnerites are our sons of bitches?
Perhaps with such "brothers" as most of the Russians on this site, it is better to remain an orphan.

[Garant_Solntselikij]

I correctly understood that it is possible for the Wagnerites to come to Belarus to "make a revolution"?

That's right, local commentators, if Lukashenka is overthrown, and a leader who destroys the country is attached to Belarus, they will hoot and congratulate each other on a successful operation ...
And yes, most of the commentators here are not advocating for the Russian Federation, they are advocating an oligarchic system and power. So for them even the pro-Western leader of the Republic of Belarus is preferable to Lukashenka.

[carstorm 11]

what revolution?) these statements can only be believed with a huge binge) because it is enough to ask yourself one question - WHY ?! even if you do not go into the details that these are not musicians, but ordinary guards who are not traveling like this for the first time.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: carstorm 11

what revolution?) these statements can only be believed with a huge binge) because it is enough to ask yourself one question - WHY ?! even if you do not go into the details that these are not musicians, but ordinary guards who are not traveling like this for the first time.

Why was Amin overthrown?

[Okolotochny]

Perhaps with such "brothers" as most of the Russians on this site, it is better to remain an orphan.

So what's the problem? Payback loans, closing our market and off you go ... on a solo voyage.

[prior]

That is, do you consider such an attitude towards your allies possible and acceptable?
I'm not Belarusian. I am a fan of Belarus. And I am very embarrassed, if not ashamed, for the situation.
If this is a marriage in the work of our special services, then it must be admitted. And if this is a planned action, then it is state terrorism, as it is called.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: prior

That is, do you consider such an attitude towards your allies possible and acceptable?
I'm not Belarusian. I am a fan of Belarus. And I am very embarrassed, if not ashamed, for the situation.
If this is a marriage in the work of our special services, then it must be admitted. And if this is a planned action, then it is state terrorism, as it is called.

I completely agree with you, if in the case of Crimea in 2014 no questions arise, then in the case of Belarusians ... If all this is true, then this is a shame and a shame

[Okolotochny]

That is, a similar attitude towards their allies

Well said, ALLIES. And when does the head of the ALLIES go OPEN to confrontation? When do the "allies" from among the VO visitors say that we will build a "NATO base"? Are they ALLIES? I am even silent about "fraternal" manifestations. Are these the Allies?
And about the situation with the detainees, a brief analysis:

1. The "Wagnerites" arrived in an organized group of several dozen people. They did not hide their affiliation with power organizations. This was expressed in militarized clothing, army attributes, etc.
2. The group has arrived officially. There was an official border crossing and check-in in a boarding house, subordinate (!!!) to the state. There is virtually no border between Russia and Belarus. Passing it illegally is not difficult. Moving into more hidden places is also not very difficult.
3. On the territory of Belarus, the group officially used the services of a Belarusian operator, who ordered tickets to Istanbul for fighters, arranged accommodation in a boarding house, and was engaged in documentary support.
Moreover, among the personal belongings of the detainees, currencies of African states were found.
All this suggests that Belarus was used as a transshipment hub for the further shipment of PMCs to Africa.

And then think about your "allies" and "brothers".

[Alber alber]

So with the same words, I remember your ideological brothers from the ruins rushed, now you have a great chance to smash your own camp into atoms

[New Year day]

a criminal case was initiated against the detained Russians under a more than serious article: terrorism.

here is the confirmation of my words, this is a deliberate action and aimed at preserving personal power. No emotion, just calculation

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Silvestr

a criminal case was initiated against the detained Russians under a more than serious article: terrorism.

here is the confirmation of my words, this is a deliberate action and aimed at preserving personal power. No emotion, just calculation

Should have been released after being detained? Many Ukrainian saboteurs were released in Crimea, let's stick here that it is Putin who does not release them because of the preservation of power

[Sklendarka]

Quote: novel xnumx

hi

I'm going to get some beer

happy! and I should go to Moscow

To the General Staff?

[GRIGORIY76]

Etozh as a chair under it should stagger that "Sasha 3%" carries such game?
Apparently serious bargaining is underway, the Wagnerites were taken hostage to exchange for something, maybe for "polite people" in case of riots after the "elections"?

[Radical]

I read the comments - not surprised. The anti-Soviet sprinkle all infections in relation to the Old Man - have they caught the buzz, injected? I have ever been to Belarus, I don't know - maybe I was lucky, but I always met hospitality and kindness from my colleagues from Minsk, I studied with some. Smart, literate people. The people are wonderful, although, like everyone, they have their own "Vlasovites". By the way, those who "water" Old Man are the heirs of these very "Vlasovites", although (unfortunately) they do not seem to know about it. This fact excuses them to some extent, but does not forgive them. What to take from the anti-Soviet. These wretched putriots do not understand even a simple question that lies on the surface - the country, in 1941-1945. I would never have won if I was in such a state, within such boundaries, with such leadership as it is now! And it will never develop, and will not defeat anyone, as long as the industry is run by sociologists, medicine - by insurance agents and accountants, defense - by builders, intelligence, and the country - by dropouts from KI im. Andropov!

[Gennady Fomkin]

It seems that in addition to the fact that the Belarusian authorities "stepped into shit" by their actions, they also decided to smear themselves completely with this shit. if the citizens of Russia are given to Ukraine, it is better not to show up in Russia for Old Man.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Russia will recognize any election other than a real coup d'etat. learn materiel. no matter what policy they pursue. ) do not hope Belarus should be left with Lukashenko). to fall apart faster.

[magnate]

In But Father is handsome, he played everyone in the dark! The borders are closed, the elections will be held under control, the so-called opposition will subside like a mouse under a broom. For the West, the "Russian threat", the elections are recognized as valid, extradite all "Wagnerians", whoever will be better friends with Ukraine and the West.
No wonder Pompeo came recently!
Even if there was nothing in this situation, then it was necessary to invent it!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Radikal

I read the comments - not surprised. The anti-Soviet sprinkle all infections in relation to the Old Man - have they caught the buzz, injected? I have ever been to Belarus, I don't know - maybe I was lucky, but I always met hospitality and kindness from my colleagues from Minsk, I studied with some. Smart, literate people. The people are wonderful, although, like everyone, they have their own "Vlasovites". By the way, those who "water" Old Man are the heirs of these very "Vlasovites", although (unfortunately) they do not seem to know about it. This fact excuses them to some extent, but does not forgive them. What to take from the anti-Soviet. These wretched putriots do not understand even a simple question that lies on the surface - the country, in 1941-1945. I would never have won if I was in such a state, within such boundaries, with such leadership as it is now! And it will never develop, and will not defeat anyone, as long as the industry is run by sociologists, medicine - by insurance agents and accountants, defense - by builders, intelligence, and the country - by dropouts from KI im. Andropov!

Take Iosif Vissarionych off your profile picture, you are a sent Cossack. Who did you call Vlasovites? -

[Gennady Fomkin]

Yes, you spit on this potato Furgala, the elections will die off and everything will subside, as it never happened.

[Courier]

Mm. Can you smell this?

This growing geopolitical influence

The closest ally member of the Union State just disgraced Russia for the whole world.
Maybe at least this event will kill the love for the dictators, whom they love so much here.
Order Lukashenka speak?
Well, here it is for you, eat.

[Roman123567]

love for dictators who are so loved here

Who loves them ..
Another thing is that they refer to the law .. they say if not "in a row" - then you can ..

[paco.soto]

Wiping a stingy senile tear with his beard:
The most informative forum on VO, in recent years I have read it with pleasure. It is a pity that my + is not visible. The current situation is really very interesting. But father undoubtedly - "knows how to play chess" ™ !, I will watch this "match" with interest, ....

[Comrade Michael]

In chess tournaments, the winner is always the one who hits the opponent on the head with a board at the decisive moment ...

[paco.soto]

the winner is the one who, at the decisive moment, hits the opponent on the head with a board ... ©
Like! I respect humor!

[Operator]

Russian citizens flew through Belarus to work in Sudan - what bald guy was arrested and sewed by Rygorych?

[Strashila]

what to say, making such a statement, Belarus announced that it is conducting intelligence activities on the territory of Russia.

[Roman123567]

Both factors take place here.
The fact that Luka did not go in his time on Putin's lead, did not agree to the union state, and so on, up to the amendments with zeroing, is a fact.
The fact that it is profitable for Luka to arrange now at home is boiling on the eve of the elections under any sauce is also a fact.
So that..

[lot]

Tomorrow Somali pirates will be found in the Minsk Sea.
everything is fine. the man suffered the coronavirus on skates.

[Roman123567]

the man suffered the coronavirus on skates.

In this case, it turned out to be more adequate than others.
So it's hard to judge ..

[lot]

This is all before the illness:
......
60. I am the president of the state, and this state will be as long as I am the president

61. I am an economist by education and origin

62. I worked in the village and lived with men

63. I will not be corporatized with swindlers, including Russia

64. I grew up on the poems of Vasil Bykov. (note: Vasil Bykov did not write poetry)

65. I don't read books. I go through them. No time.......

[Ros 56]

You can say anything you want, what are the facts about the involvement of guys in terrorism? This is the most important question. Everything else is verbal diarrhea.

[501 Legion]

it's very badly choreographed

[mace]

It's time to finish this production of the rural amateur theater. Bring the men back to the sanatorium!

[awdrgy]

One gets the impression that the Russian leadership itself is trying to blacken Russia so that no one in the world would feel sorry for the Russians at the hour of "CH" This is some kind of tryndets Not laughing Isn't the Crimea a chain of the same chain? And the strengthening of the RF Armed Forces is sufficient to scare, but not sufficient to win?

[ork_333]

Hold me seven! Is it terrorism ?! Here's a straight "came to make a revolution" ?! The subcontractors seem to have completely confused concepts! It looks like I won't finish working until retirement with such squiggles in the logic of leadership))

[Senka naughty]

Alexander Lukashenko accused Russia of "trying to destabilize the situation"

Can you have a link confirming this information? Personally, I have not been able to find confirmation of the author's words on the network .. And yet I'm ready to blame VO in publishing a fake!

[Sasha Minakov]

I wonder what the onion will say to the devil when he comes for his black soul?). After all, this bastard is doing everything to distance the Republic of Belarus from the Russian Federation. rat.

[thrust]

even when But Father with the parade was in opposition, it was clear that, having cut off, he would throw it on the fan.
many then did not believe in the ecstasy of dancing.
but the essence is simple. Russia knows that he will win again, and that's fine.
and Western "partners" will help to win (with money and influence) (Europe simply cannot be left without the last "dictator", he is needed like air).
and to Kolkhozan's statements about the termination of the work of various non-governmental organizations, he was wisely advised (for the lack of interference with the election), and even once again to fuck up the Russians with "Wagner" from which it burns in Syria and Libya with allies against Russia.
Well, where can the poor peasant go ?? !!

[Alber alber]

Luca is still a cunning skunk, I really hope that there will be no more indulgences, no handouts, no credits to the mustache, and I also strongly hope that we will not commit stupidity a la salvation of the yanyk

[stalkerwalker]

1. There have been no official reports from the authorities of the Republic of Belarus. All the shouts from the place - on behalf of and on behalf of the opposition with links to some sources. Only Lukashenka commented that, they say, we need to figure it out ...
2. The authorities of Belarus have been trying to sit on two chairs with one sitter for more than a dozen years. Either the US sells them oil "at a cheap price", or the brothers Belarusians cover our border from NATO. In the context of the growing confrontation of the "civilized" West with Russia and China, it will not be possible to remain neutral.
3. RB has long turned into a transit center for everything and everyone. Which, naturally, makes a profit, financial. But no one has canceled the use of the country's territory as a springboard for both sides, bordering on Belarus on both sides. And only the lazy will not guess that in the country there are more than one thousand illegal immigrants, or semi-immigrants preparing their operations on the territory of countries to which it is not difficult to fly out.
In this case, Turkey should be grateful to the security forces of Belarus that the next batch of volunteers did not reach Libya or Syria.
4. And it is not even worth reminding that the Polish special services have long settled not only in Minsk, but also in other regions of their neighbors, since the transit Poland-Ukraine-Belarus was blessed by Batka himself.
Summary.
In such conditions, the unfriendly behavior of the brothers of Belarusians under tracing paper reminds the story of the Maidan in Banderostan. The secret services are already close to treason, the arrest of the Russians is an example of this.
Lukashenko - Yanukovych's neighbor in dachas in the suburbs?

[Comrade Michael]

If Lukashenko is not neutralized, Russia will have big problems ...