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Presidential rating of Alexander Lukashenko announced before elections

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Presidential rating of Alexander Lukashenko announced before elections

In Belarus, published data from a public opinion poll related to the upcoming elections in the republic. The opinion poll was ordered by the Second National TV Channel, and it was carried out by representatives of the analytical center Ecoom. The main task was to find out the percentage of Belarusian citizens who are going to come to the elections, as well as their electoral preferences.


The presented results of the survey, conducted from July 23 to July 27, are as follows: the total coverage of the respondents was 1879 people, the error does not exceed 4 percent.

According to Ecoom, 89,5% of those polled plan to take part in the presidential elections. A couple of weeks ago, the same expert group, conducting a similar survey, gave the result 2,2% lower.

Almost two-thirds of the respondents said they were ready to vote for the incumbent head of state at the elections - 72,3 percent for Alexander Lukashenko. The closest competitor in the upcoming elections is 37-year-old Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. About 7,5% of the citizens of Belarus intend to vote for it. Anna Kanopatskaya, who until 2019 was a member of the House of Representatives of the National Assembly of the Republic of Belarus, is among the three leaders with a noticeable lag. It is noteworthy that on July 20, it became known about Anna Kanopatskaya's “non-planning” to hold meetings with voters.

Thus, Alexander Lukashenko currently has the highest presidential rating in the republic of all candidates.

Almost 11% of the respondents found it difficult to answer the question of which of the candidates for the presidency they intend to support. 3,7% of respondents said they would vote against everyone.

Let us remind you that the elections in Belarus will be held on August 9.
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website of the President of Belarus
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 12: 24 New
    -7
    Thus, Alexander Lukashenko currently has the highest presidential rating in the republic of all candidates.
    Well, the swing continues and so on until the elections. request
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 29 July 2020 12: 39 New
      +4
      What kind of swing? Lukashenka's rivals are Tikhonovskaya, who is sick in the head with her populist program.
      Well, she will achieve fair elections, so what? Well, will he delete the commonwealth with Russia from the political plans and what? Will he go to the front-end panel to earn on pensions for pensioners? Shameless fool!
      1. snake
        snake 29 July 2020 12: 45 New
        38
        Quote: Campanella
        Well, exclude the commonwealth with Russia from the political plans, so what?

        One might think that under Lukashenka the commonwealth with Russia will materialize right now literally tomorrow.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 29 July 2020 12: 54 New
          -27
          Unlike Tikhanovskaya, Lukashenko understands the interests of his citizens, and this skin thinks about itself.
          This is not Newton's binomial, this is a simple situation, or you are an enemy of Russia and the West throws crumbs from the master's shoulder and you are in slavish dependence on it, or with Russia then everything depends on its successful politics and economy, which is no ice now. Therefore, Lukashenka is doing the right thing by maneuvering, and this is the only right decision so far.
          1. snake
            snake 29 July 2020 12: 57 New
            +3
            Quote: Campanella
            Therefore, Lukashenka is doing the right thing by maneuvering, and this is the only right decision so far.

            On the one hand - an affectionate calf sucks two queens, and on the other - after two hares ... I do not envy Alyaksandra Ryhoravich ...
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 29 July 2020 13: 06 New
              -3
              Who can you envy now?
              Trump, Zelensky, Merkel? ...
              1. snake
                snake 29 July 2020 13: 09 New
                +6
                Quote: Campanella
                Who can you envy now?
                Trump, Zelensky, Merkel? ...

                Too lazy to look for the names of the heads of state ... I will name them by country: Switzerland, Iceland, New Zealand, Australia, Austria, Ireland, Sweden, Finland.
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 29 July 2020 13: 15 New
                  +2
                  And what do they decide? And where will they be if the leading group merges? And all the leading and not small problems have .. And what you wrote, these are political satellites. They are doing well as long as the dollar and the euro are worth it.
                  1. snake
                    snake 29 July 2020 14: 42 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Campanella
                    They are doing well as long as the dollar and the euro are worth it.

                    They do not depend on gas / oil, at least. And they will live without the dollar and the euro.
                2. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 13: 48 New
                  -11
                  Quote: serpent
                  Too lazy to look for the names of the heads of state ... I will name them by country: Switzerland, Iceland, New Zealand, Australia, Austria, Ireland, Sweden, Finland.
                  fool Sit down, I'll open it myself! repeat
              2. Volzhanin64
                Volzhanin64 29 July 2020 15: 07 New
                -5
                Envy "Zeroed"
            2. Dizel200
              Dizel200 29 July 2020 14: 32 New
              +2
              not laughing it is called differently: eat the fish and on. sit down
          2. Veleslav17
            Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 21 New
            -8
            What kind of nonsense you have. You in your Russian Federation do not see a beam in the eye, but already tell others how and what to do and who understands what.
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 13: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: Veleslav17
              What kind of nonsense you have. You can't see a beam in your eye in your Russian Federation

              What's wrong with you, you have lost your way and do not see that you are in Russia. Go yourself in peace. crying
          3. Eragon
            Eragon 29 July 2020 17: 16 New
            12
            Quote: Campanella
            Unlike Tikhanovskaya, Lukashenko understands the interests of his citizens, and this skin thinks about itself.

            This bastard understands only his personal interests, he does not care about citizens. He himself says: if you don't like it, get out of the country.
            Tikhonovskaya clearly announced her plans - to remove Lukashenko, release political prisoners, and hold new elections. All.
            About our realities. In Gomel, two brothers were arrested for anti-government slogans and agitation. Deaf and dumb from birth and not quite mentally developed. A day later they were released, but both were given administrative fines. What do you write there about the interests of citizens?
            1. ork_333
              ork_333 29 July 2020 19: 02 New
              -3
              What shishi is Tihanovskaya going to hold repeated elections for? Will he take it from pensions or salaries? Thinks she apologized for the dude who yelled "We need someone like Hitler" and forgot everything? Fancy yourself the smartest housewife in the country? Or is her husband a blogger who shouted "I want it like in Ukraine"? I am not defending Lukashenka and showing off in the country with his hypocrisy, but I do not want to get a mess and chaos in the country just for the sake of changing the leadership.
              1. Maxim L
                Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 38 New
                +3
                Quote: ork_333
                I am not defending Lukashenka and showing off in the country with his hypocrisy, but I do not want to get a mess and chaos in the country just for the sake of changing the leadership.

                What does it offer? Wait until the country is completely bogged down by Lukashenka's rule? Or do you naively think that everything will be fine with him and somehow we will slip through? Will not be. Maybe not today, maybe in a year, maybe in 5, but the economy will collapse. And then there is no need to shout "what to do". It will be too late
            2. Campanella
              Campanella 29 July 2020 22: 49 New
              -4
              Well, yes, release political prisoners and they will immediately feed everyone else with noodles.
              You forget about reality.
              Tell us how a new president like Tikhanovskaya will solve the problems of Belarus?
              Here she is against integration with Russia, and who will buy Belarusian products? Where will the extra Belarusians go?
              Is Europe in general waiting for Belarus? Calls to join as a full member, or will full rights be limited to guest workers and in fact the loss of independence?
              1. Maxim L
                Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 44 New
                +3
                Quote: Campanella
                Tell us how a new president like Tikhanovskaya will solve the problems of Belarus? Here she is against integration with Russia, and who will buy Belarusian products? Where will the extra Belarusians go?
                Is Europe in general waiting for Belarus? Calls to join as a full member, or will full rights be limited to guest workers and in fact the loss of independence?

                Of course Europe is not waiting. Personally, I don't want to be a part of Europe. As well as I do not want to be a part of Russia. I want to live in an independent country that does not conflict with anyone (like Switzerland). I understand that this requires developing the economy. In order not to live on loans, but at the expense of the normal modern economy. Lukashenka can do nothing of this. All he can do is live on loans from the IMF, Russia, etc. At the same time promising everything to everyone. But this strategy is already starting to fail. Russia has ceased to give us resources for free in any quantity as before. That is why Lukashenka's economic miracle of the early 2000s collapsed. And many people in Belarus have now realized that our economy is a slag, that for 26 years under his rule we did not develop, but only degraded. And therefore the people are against him. His real rating is no more than 30%. At its best for him
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 30 July 2020 11: 27 New
                  0
                  You think like Lukashenka. He also wants to be independent, what is the contradiction?
                  I want to disappoint you, like Switzerland will not work.
                  All these countries are dependent ...
                  There are no independent people at all ... everything is interconnected, and these interconnections are determined by the chosen path.
                  Do you think someone else will not be able to Lukashenka? Without choosing a leader?
                  In fact, Belarus has two paths, either with Russia or with the United States. Nobody needs it as an independent independent one. Even Europe cannot independently determine its future, since it is linked by agreements with America.
                  So do not build illusions, an example is at your side, if that suits you, swing the boat forward, Maidante and your fatigue from Lukashenka will take off as if by hand, because you will face banal problems of survival.
                  1. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 51 New
                    +3
                    It is clear that it is difficult to be independent. Big players always try to "eat" little things. But now it is no longer a unipolar world. You can try to build some kind of reasonable
                    independent policy. I understand that you, as a Russian, dislike the policy of Belarus "both yours and ours." But for Belarus it is the most profitable and the best policy. The whole question is what opportunities are there for this. If you live at the expense of Russian loans, oil and gas, but it is quite clear that Russia expects complete submission (what are the issues). That's why I don't like Lukashenka. In 26 years something could already be built. After all, Belarus was not Zimbabwe. And during the collapse of the USSR, we were technically very developed. There was a good foundation on which to build
                    Fortunately, the world is now multipolar. China has risen significantly and has a real impact on the global economy. The USA is no longer the hegemon (as after the collapse of the USSR). They have a set of problems of their own. Russia has no less problems than the United States. These are already 3 players who do not depend on each other. With a stretch, you can add the European Union (although it depends heavily on the United States, but still). Therefore, you can try to maneuver.
                    Many, by the way, do well. Like Kazakhstan. He is friends with Russia and does not conflict with the United States. But it is easier for Kazakhstan - they have oil.
                    Therefore, everything can be done perfectly. The whole question is in the competence of the head. And Lukashenko is an ordinary narcissistic dictator. There was a legacy of the USSR and cheap Russian resources - he was on horseback. It was all over - it seemed his true incompetence. And he appoints to his team not professionals, but sycophants. That is the problem. HE decides everything for himself. One person cannot understand everything. And he thinks he can. Therefore, in the country and ...
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella 30 July 2020 12: 22 New
                      -4
                      On the contrary, I think Lukashenka is doing the right thing.
                      The fact is that Russia itself cannot decide how to live.
                      The people essentially want socialism, but the authorities don't really need it, they have had communism for a long time.
                      As for the polarity, it's hard to say ... Russia is not drawn to the pole, because it has no ideology. China yes, they kind of offer a different formation.
                      As for independence, this is generally a myth.
                      But it is obvious that Belarus is not drawn to an independent state, it does not have the resources for this.
                      And to offer something that will raise it to the rank of leading countries, I don’t know what it should be.
                      The trouble with authoritarian regimes is one thing, they cannot share responsibility with others.
                      As for the competence of subordinates, this is the misfortune of all managers. This, and Parkinson described in his time, no leader will raise a gravedigger for himself.
                      1. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 30 July 2020 12: 40 New
                        +3
                        As a blarus, I see problems that you do not see as Russians. Under Lukashenka, the entire real sector dies. Intangible too. We live purely on loans
                        In the early 2000s, Luka liked to point out, “Look at the chaos in Russia, how everything is ruined there. And the people believed then. Many believed. But 20 years have passed. And it turned out that it was all fiction
                        I am 88th year of birth. I still remember many Belarusian enterprises. So half of them have been closed over the past 20 years. The remaining half are at a loss and often live on subsidies (which come from loans). And only very few, at the very least, support existence. Those. there is no miracle of the XNUMXs, which Luke painted the people. Everything fell apart.
                        I have many friends / relatives at various state enterprises. I often hear such game. When there was a normal enterprise, for example, in 2005-2010. But then the director was removed and the "confidant" was appointed. As a result, in 1-2 years the enterprise is killed almost to zero. And what, is it close to the bunk? Of course not. He is removed and given to other positions. And so in almost all areas. The regime is rotten through. Some "leaders" simply amaze with their dibilism
                        Therefore, a country with such a regime has only one end - complete vegetation (for the common people, but for the defiant). Therefore, the government should be replaced periodically. 26 years is too much. During this time, the regime is too rotten
                      2. Campanella
                        Campanella 30 July 2020 13: 25 New
                        -2
                        Real sector enterprises are a common misfortune, how do you keep them with open borders? The main consumer of Belarusian goods is Russia, it is itself in crisis, so Belarus is on the train.
                        I've looked at a Belarusian drilling machine, a Belarusian label, and it's made in China. Without protectionism, to compete with pellets, but there is no money. That is why everything can be changed this way only by integration with other countries providing markets for their goods. So Lukashenka can only be accused of not solving the issue of integration with Russia, but here too, you yourself understand not everything depends on him.
                      3. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 30 July 2020 13: 38 New
                        +1
                        There are many businesses that are not export-oriented. However, they are also in full ... There was one construction company that produced gas silicate building blocks, etc. It was an excellent enterprise. And then I haven't heard anything about him for 5 years. I ask a classmate who hails from that city "what's up?" And I was told how one director was removed. They have appointed their "tyrant" from the former security officials. Which for 1,5-2 years of "management" drove to the wild losses of the plant. And there are many such examples. And only in some cases were such “directors” imprisoned. Basically, they got other positions and "ruled" in a new place
                        I agree with you on the point that it is difficult to fight for sales markets. That is largely decided by politics. But I'm not so categorical as you are. Yes, in many ways, but not completely. With good management in many locations, significant success can be achieved.
                        About integration with Russia. No offense, but I want independence. If the Russians feel calmer, then I am only "for" signing some kind of treaty, that we undertake not to join NATO, not to deploy NATO bases on our territory, etc. But full incorporation into Russia as another "province" - no, thanks.
                      4. Campanella
                        Campanella 30 July 2020 13: 58 New
                        -2
                        I am not offended, this is your right and personal choice, but the majority will still decide, of course.
                        In economics, I am talking about global approaches, a dozen enterprises of the domestic market do not solve anything, they will help to keep the state, its independence at a minimum level and nothing more. We need a scientific and technological base and a lot depends on ideology, if not strange, because only an idea can unite people and allow us to solve important problems.
                        As for independence, you must understand that this is an expensive pleasure.
                        This parallel is not very appropriate, but by getting married you lose independence and civil marriage is another matter.
                      5. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 30 July 2020 15: 08 New
                        +1
                        "But the majority will still decide, of course." Most likely, it will not be the people who will decide, but the circumstances. When there is nothing left to sell in the country, when the debts go off scale, then something will have to be decided. I think that is why Putin tolerates and supports Lukashenka (as they say, "water wears away a stone"). Slowly, he more and more drives Luka into a trap from which he cannot get out. No matter how "unbending" puffed up, he did not build anything of his own. Therefore, sooner or later you will have to bend. The whole question is what state the people and the country will be in. What steps will the West be ready to take, etc. Whatever it is, the Belarusian people will definitely feel bad and hurt.
                        "We need a scientific and technological base" We had it after the collapse of the USSR. We had a bunch of high-tech industries, etc. But Luka screwed it up safely. And even now we have science more or less. The main thing is to invest money in it and develop it. And this is not done
                        "Ideology is not strange, because only an idea can unite people and allow them to solve important problems." Ideology is good and needed under certain conditions. And under certain conditions, it is only evil. Here's an example. I am an engineer at a state enterprise. I am 31 years old. Once in 24 years (almost immediately after graduation) a high boss caught me on the fact that I was doing outsiders. I gave a lecture on how young people are fixated on money, do not want to work, etc. At the same time, she herself, as a specialist, was very weak. She behaved as usual in such cases, it happens - on connections, podlizatsiya, ability to chat, etc. And it ended with the fact that a case was opened over her and another group of people on financial fraud during the construction of a house. As a result, she drove off to her daughter in Germany out of harm's way. This is the kind of person who scolded me and read the ideals ...
                        "As far as independence is concerned, you must understand it is an expensive pleasure." Yes, understand. Therefore, I want the state to work in this direction, and not only to show off
                      6. Campanella
                        Campanella 30 July 2020 18: 37 New
                        0
                        Yes, there are things that do not depend on people ...
                        About screwed up, no need to rashly talk. I myself like to criticize, the authorities on the other hand understand that not everything is as simple as I imagine it.
                        How could he not screw up if there was no demand, there was no day to invest in them, it's like swimming against the tide, and the currents create powerful economies of the world, alas.
                        As for ideology, it seems to me that your example is not in the cash register, your boss certainly did not have an ideology, but she just wanted to use it for her own good.
                        That is why the Union has merged, there are no truly ideological ones left, only opportunists. I perfectly remember on the basis of what qualities a party career was built.
                        With regard to Putin, most likely it is, squeezing Luka.
                        Not Luka, I would have given another.
                        For security reasons Russia cannot afford to have non-loyal neighbors.
                        Ukraine chose Europe, but it's not over yet and I think Ukraine will return sooner or later.
                        Here, as they say, if you fight to the bitter end, and this is a suspension.
                        America does not allow its neighbors to do this, and no one will allow shit on the doorstep.
                      7. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 31 July 2020 09: 35 New
                        0
                        "How could he not screw up if there was no demand, there was no day to invest in them, it's like swimming against the tide, and the currents create powerful economies of the world, alas." It is hard to say. Not everything is so simple. It is clear that you can say "but you would have done better?" I do not know. But I know for sure no matter what I did. I would not put non-specialists (namely sycophants) in places requiring skills. And after they failed, I definitely would not arrange them for a new warm place. And as it was with us - he destroyed it, got a new place, and again destroyed it. And even if someone is imprisoned, then, as a rule, for 1-1,5 years with the appointment to a new gorgeous position after his release. You can't do that. For then all opportunists understand that it is possible not to steam at all. For if they are loyal to the authorities, then the authorities will not throw them away. I really like the statement of the founder of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, on this matter "to defeat corruption, you need to put three of your friends." Those. implies that there should be no untouchables
                        “As for ideology, it seems to me that your example is not in the cashier's office, your boss certainly did not have an ideology, but she just wanted to use it for her own good.
                        That is why the Union has merged, there are no truly ideological ones left, only opportunists. I remember very well on the basis of what qualities a party career was built. "So I'm talking about it. We still have at many state enterprises, like in the USSR, deputy directors for ideology, all sorts of BRYU (new Komsomol), etc. And most of the representatives arouse rejection, and what disgust, only in the best case. And as a rule, the more disgusting they are, the more they sink into ideology
                        "Ukraine has chosen Europe, but it's not over yet and I think Ukraine will return sooner or later." Oh, I don’t know. Crimea they would easily swallow (they would be offended, of course, but swallowed). But the war in Donbass shed a lot of blood. It's so hard to say goodbye
                        "America does not allow neighbors of this, and no one will allow shit on the doorstep." I agree with this. If suddenly tomorrow the drunken President of Mexico announced the deployment of Russian military bases, then tomorrow the United States would have brought in troops under some pretext. There is no honor and justice in this world, unfortunately. Often only the law of power decides something. If one side is much stronger than the other, then it does not stand on ceremony as a rule
                      8. Campanella
                        Campanella 31 July 2020 10: 49 New
                        0
                        The world is built on strength.
                        Regarding the adoption of personnel decisions, everything is complicated, do not forget that there is only one president, and there are many subordinates and not all personnel decisions are made by him. It is clear from the key figures that these are his decisions, but again on the basis of reporting special services and so on, but you yourself understand how you can present a person without distorting the facts, put a comma in the wrong place, stress, apply another epithet. .the factual side is not distorted, but the idea of ​​a person changes. This is what the media often do.
                        There is a problem everywhere in terms of personnel, in Russia, too, the selection is carried out in a strange way. We have some forms, but the children of high-profile persons and relatives get into key positions. This is a common problem.
                        And the Komsomol members a lot of pressure or getting out to party posts.
                        About Donbass, I will say this, Russia could not have done anything there if the Kiev ghouls did not behave like chauvinists, they did not consider the east for people. Of course, Russia helped and is helping, and blood flowed through the fault of Kiev, which did not give a damn about the opinion of the east and tried to solve its problems by force.
                        By the way, Donbass is an example for you, the territory bordering on Russia and Russia's influence is great there and therefore Kiev, realizing this, wanted to exterminate this dissent with force and blood.
                        In this sense, both Ukraine and Belarus are also border territories between Russia and the West, and you yourself understand how they will solve these problems.
                        That is why I said the plan of Tikhanovskaya stupidity leading to exacerbation and possible war.
                        Only Lukashenka's maneuvering saves the country from disaster. The West has already come close to Russia, the flight time from the territory of the Baltic states in a matter of minutes to the centers of Russia.
                      9. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 31 July 2020 11: 22 New
                        -2
                        "About Donbass, I will say this, Russia could not have done anything there if the Kiev ghouls did not behave like chauvinists, they did not consider the east for people. Of course, Russia helped and helps, and blood was shedding due to the fault of Kiev, which did not give a damn about the opinion east and by force tried to solve their problems. " I do not agree here. You're generalizing too much. There are many different people among Ukrainians. Stubborn chauvinists are, as a rule, stupid Westerners. Since they were more active and organized, their power was chosen as its instrument. The center of Ukraine and the East are relatively calm. Before the outbreak of the war in Donbass, a huge number of Ukrainians in the east were in favor of Russia. It was perfectly visible in Kharkov. There are several friends there. But the war changed everything. Very sharply many Ukrainians have lost interest in Russia (no one likes military intervention in their internal affairs). I believe that with Donbass you, the Russians, have gone too far. Well, the next oligarchs came to power. Well, they use the Nazis as a tool. Well, they would have shouted their stupid chants in Kiev. The economy would not have improved from this and Ukraine would not have become richer. After 2-3 years of their rule in Ukraine, there would be another financial crisis. The population is dissatisfied. Russia would lift not only the East, but also the whole of central Ukraine into an easy one (with the words "look, they promised you prosperity, but in fact it is not.) Because in general, any nation is a herd. And if the economy is bad, then you can turn it against the government in an easy way. That is, it would be possible to win back everything without bloodshed. This is 100%. Russia decided that it would reach Kiev unceremoniously. It did not work out ... The consequences are sad. And do not say that Russia protected the civilian population, etc. Still, we understand that any government in any country in the world cares about geopolitical interests, etc., and not the population. This is normal. This is the essence of power
                      10. Campanella
                        Campanella 31 July 2020 11: 57 New
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                        You rightly said that the active part decides. They are passionaries and do all the dirty work, and public opinion ... they are skillfully manipulated and by the way Kiev, spinning up a military operation, always presented it as a response against Russian aggression, and in no way mentioned that the East of Ukraine disagrees with Kiev's Russophobic policy, thus influencing on the public opinion of other regions.
                        Strongly against your hypothesis that if you please the Nazis, they themselves will die out over time. Nazism is a poison that can spoil the state for a long time, and even more so given the confrontation between the West and Russia, no one will let this infection die if it is against Russia. This is also part of geopolitics.
                        As for caring for people, this really is not in the first place. But literally all the "authorities" of all countries care "about the people, so it is customary to say, otherwise the election of power loses its meaning.
                      11. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 5 August 2020 09: 16 New
                        0
                        If there was no war, then Russia could easily use the population's discontent with the economic situation 2-3 years after the Maidan. The war changed everything however. Even in Kharkov, there are already very few supportive Russians
                      12. Campanella
                        Campanella 5 August 2020 10: 01 New
                        0
                        It could ... But at the moment Russia has an unattractive form of public organization this time and the second West will oppose this in every possible way.
                        Strength in the world is the foundation of everything, both military and economic.
                        Russia has residual military power, but no economic power. So this option would not have passed 100%.
                      13. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 5 August 2020 10: 20 New
                        0
                        I disagree. It is common for any people to dislike the authorities if the economy is bad (even if the authorities are taking the right steps). Therefore, even if after the Maidan all sorts of agreements were concluded, etc. with Europe and the United States (extremely inconvenient for Russia), it would still be bad because of the Ukrainian oligarchs and the corrupt elite in the economy. Therefore, the pendulum of the mood of the masses swung again after a few years. I would move away from Europe and come closer to Russia. Therefore, it would be easy for Russia to promote its interests. And there would be no need for any war. And there wouldn't be so much hatred. And it turned out what happened ...
                      14. Campanella
                        Campanella 5 August 2020 15: 40 New
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                        It (the pendulum) would definitely swing, I agree, but with the timing ... each process has its own life and it is difficult to calculate. Hate, like friendship, is not eternal. The question is, is it necessary to push so hard?
                        Or is it worth waiting for "its time"?
                      15. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 6 August 2020 09: 05 New
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                        "but with the timing" As practice shows, almost any nation is a herd. Therefore, as soon as something is bad, even for a short period of time, then instantly the mood changes. So I wouldn't have to wait long
                        "Hatred, like friendship, are not eternal things. The question is, is it necessary to resist so?" I agree. Simply, in my opinion, it was better, instead of the war in Donbass, Russia was fully rebuilding Crimea. Deeds, so to speak, etiquette and a picture. The rest of Ukraine would be angry, of course, for the selected Crimea. But gradually, if I saw a beautiful picture in the form of a steep Crimea, then in the minds of many, the thought “I want that too” would appear. This is a natural human reaction.
                        Those. geopolitical interests must be achieved not only by military methods, but also by cultural, economic impact. In certain situations, these methods are much more effective than military ones.
                        PS Somehow I saw what Grozny is like in Chechnya now. I just went nuts how much money was invested there. The same should have been done with the Crimea. But for some reason the Kremlin is ready to pay HUGE money for loyalty to a Chechen, but for some reason it is not ready to make a picture out of Slavic. Offensive
                      16. Campanella
                        Campanella 6 August 2020 10: 18 New
                        0
                        The Slavs are mentally tolerant, therefore Chechnya and money.
                        I have already forgotten, but it seems that Donbass served as an example of how Ukrainians deal with dissidents.
                        By the way, Lukashenka seems to have given the command to hand over the Chvkovites to Ukraine, Grygorich is doing something bad ... All this will end badly. There is nothing to do with elections. What is he counting on? Do you have such a large anti-Russian electorate?
                      17. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 13 August 2020 17: 25 New
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                        Good day. So the elections have passed. There was no Internet in Belarus for 3 days. Couldn't enter the site. Now complete tin is going on. Luka is completely off the hook. He fights with his own people. Never have I seen a people rise up against him like that. I even have women in their 60s who take to the streets at work. Just tin
                        “By the way, Lukashenka seems to have given the command to hand over the Chvkovites to Ukraine, Grygorich is chudding ... All this will end badly. There is even nothing to do with elections. What is he counting on? Do you have such a large anti-Russian electorate?”
                        The anti-Russian electorate is extremely small. Don't think that red and white flags are anti-Russian sentiment. This is not true. At the moment, about 80% of the population hates Luka. At what he hates already fiercely because of all the tin that he has been doing over the past week. Nobody thinks about Russia or Europe. There is only one thought - hatred of Luka, riot police and other security forces. If now Russia actively supports Luka, it will receive a portion of hatred from the Belarusian people. And if she helped to throw it off, then people would carry Russians in their arms
                      18. Campanella
                        Campanella 13 August 2020 18: 16 New
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                        And if Russia does not support him,
                        Belarus will lose its independence and become Ukraine.
                        Well, the West knows how to knock out love for Russia at once!
                        Even in Russia, we have many such "patriots" who believe that Russia is unworthy to be a state.
                        I understand ordinary Belarusians, but the realities are not visible behind the hatred.
                        And they are as follows - overthrow Lukashenka and get the collapse of the economy, statehood with all the consequences ... unemployment, prostitution and of course crime.
                        I just saw the performance of one Belarusian woman, "I can't cook, I can't, I can't work, and something else, here all day long."
                        This fool does not understand that tomorrow she will have no work, no home, no food.
                        My army friend is Ukrainian, about 2 years ago they wrote around all the forests they cut down for heating.
                        If Luka does not withstand Belarus, the rider will come.
                        At the same time, I am not a fan of Lukashenka.
                        And yet, your division into rich and poor will sharply go, and of course, the oligarchy will tear all the dainties out of the hands of the state, promising manna from heaven!
                        ..
                      19. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 17 August 2020 09: 29 New
                        0
                        Looked at Russian news. Your propaganda shows the situation VERY one-sidedly. There is practically no word in the official media about the brutal detention and torture in prisons. Torture !!! 21 century! As far as I know, they don't torture in Russia yet. Navalny says he wants and is safe. And we are REALLY tortured. Last week, 6 people were handed. Many people now have acquaintances who have encountered this.
                        I don't understand why you Russians are so fixated on Luka. I assure you, no one thinks of quarreling with Russia. There were several hundred thousand people at the rally in Minsk yesterday. Everyone wants one thing - that the sick dictator and tyrant go away. There was no talk at all about Europe, the USA and Russia. Yesterday I was talking in a crowd with a 53-year-old man. He just loves Russia. He told me what kind of goat Luka is, because dares to yap at Russia. I didn’t explain to him that Putin didn’t care about the victims in Belarus. So many such people stood yesterday in the white-red-white crowd.
                        We have enough people in Belarus who can be put in place of Luka and keep the course of friendship with Russia. Everyone understands very well that we are very much tied to Russia.
                        And what is the official government of Russia doing? Supports an unspoken bloody beast. I'll tell you that it starts to sadden very much (and the next stage and dislike) of ordinary Belarus
                      20. Campanella
                        Campanella 17 August 2020 10: 37 New
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                        I didn’t fixate on Luke, you just don’t have any real power apart from him that can take power. All your peaceful opposition will merge at once under the pressure of criminals and other power groups and the West.
                        Here I am listening to an activist of some factory calling the workers to strike and he repeats everything that Neksta is broadcasting.
                        And the murder of one person in his mouth looks like a massive one?
                        Well, and then, according to the training manual, the indignant mind "boils".
                        I remember how we were promoted in 1991 to discontent and we believed it and went to the barricades. And only then I realized what a stupid thing I was doing, it’s good that I survived.
                      21. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 17 August 2020 11: 47 New
                        -1
                        What can you say about torture in prisons? They really are. Moreover, they are very tough. And on a huge scale. Today, a woman at work told me that her nephew was released. He was lucky, he and others were simply beaten. But he says he heard screams from torture in other cells.
                        Today the director comes out about his father at work. He was released on Friday. In a place with his son they grabbed. I'm waiting for them to tell.
                        Doctors I know from hospitals tell us what kind of patients come from the pre-trial detention center. It's just tin
                        Those. There were so many tortures and atrocities that almost every Minsker already has friends who have gone through it. Or acquaintances of acquaintances at worst. Unprecedented scale, in general.
                        “I didn’t fixate on Luka, you just don’t have any real power other than him that could take power.” Of course not. After all, as soon as someone appears, he is immediately sent to prison. If you're lucky. No luck - prison and torture.
                        A question for you. What should Belarusians do? Endure? To endure chaos and torture? In an amicable way, the authorities do not listen. Not only does he not listen, but also disdainfully dismisses him. Belarusians are driven to despair. Believe me, we are an extremely quiet and passive nation. It takes extreme toughness to bring to such indignation
                      22. Campanella
                        Campanella 17 August 2020 18: 10 New
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                        Yes, the Russian coordinator of an open Russia spoke about "torture", he also talked about screaming.
                        There will be iron facts, it will be possible to talk about this, but for now it resembles misinformation in order to promote the people.
                        Now I listen to the echo and all the opposition are scaring that Lukashenka will put his son Viktor in his place ... And other relatives, this strongly reminds me of deceiving the people in an attempt to overthrow Lukashenka by any hook or by crook, Lukashenka is already calling him ...
                        Such an information bulk is not good. You are being bred.
                      23. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 18 August 2020 11: 55 New
                        -1
                        So, do you consider beating and humiliation of detained people the norm? I already have several acquaintances (and from different places. That is, it was not in one place. Apparently there was a team)
                        Even your propagandist Solovyov agreed that it was tough. And he is still the mouthpiece of the Kremlin
                        Luca completely lost touch with reality. Judging by his last interview, he is either really not in the know what is happening in the country, or as if his head was moved.
                        All our power is simply rotten through and through. They are completely cut off from the people. And they don't hide it. They no longer consider it necessary. That is why even simple workers go on strike in factories. Because everyone got sick of this attitude
                      24. Campanella
                        Campanella 18 August 2020 17: 13 New
                        0
                        Here, Maxim to God! One would think that only Belarusians are beaten and humiliated?
                        In America, they kill more ... Do you want this?
                    2. Maxim L
                      Maxim L 18 August 2020 16: 22 New
                      -1
                      Now I talked to my sister. Her husband works for a state construction trust. The director personally met the guys detained from their construction trust. The guys are all blue as eggplants from hematomas. They beat me in a bus and when they moved between the cells. This is normal? 21 century. The person has already been detained. Why are these atrocities? For intimidation? In my life I will not believe that they act like this without a command
  2. free_flier
    free_flier 3 August 2020 18: 24 New
    0
    By phrase ... "Russia would have raised not only the East, but also the whole of central Ukraine into an easy one (with the words" look, they promised you prosperity, but in fact there is none.) Because in general, any nation is a herd. ".... for a kilometer you can smell another Ukrainian freeloader, all of whose dreams, that someone else would "lift" him, feed him, drink, and then, if anything happens, he will again, with a saucepan on his head, scream who will hang "on a gilyak" ...
  3. Maxim L
    Maxim L 5 August 2020 09: 17 New
    0
    I am Belarusian. By "raised" I meant raising a political protest
  • Campanella
    Campanella 30 July 2020 09: 44 New
    -3
    In principle, he is right, do not like it, bring it down!
    After all, the West meets all the requirements of Messrs. Liberal Democrats, and it would seem that what else do they want?
    No, they want to make some kind of Germany or Switzerland from Russia and Belarus.
    Get out of Ukraine make Europe!
    And how can it end?
    By blurring the national foundations, turning into a reservation.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 31 July 2020 16: 32 New
      0
      It looks like a nightingale has made a nest in your head
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 31 July 2020 19: 36 New
        0
        One must be baptized when it seems!
        And match the nickname.
        Neither Soloviev nor Venediktov are equally disliked; they look alike, but they blow in different pipes. But who are you blowing to?
  • Anton Lako
    Anton Lako 29 July 2020 17: 43 New
    +8
    Yes, he wanted to spit on his citizens and their interests. He is only interested in his own person and the welfare of his sons.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 31 July 2020 16: 31 New
    +1
    Lukashenka stayed too long and this is a fact
  • FOBOSS
    FOBOSS 2 August 2020 16: 56 New
    0
    Well, you blurt out nonsense. For 26 years, your Luca could have formalized an alliance long ago, but only the Roma do not strive for this at all, and with a change of power there are much more chances to improve relations with the West. And look what Tikhanovskaya is talking about: this is the release of political prisoners and new elections in half a year.
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  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 29 July 2020 13: 02 New
    -4
    Well, otherwise, civil war with partition, or collapse of AI slow partition.
    1. snake
      snake 29 July 2020 13: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: K-612-O
      Well, otherwise, civil war with partition, or collapse of AI slow partition.

      I mean, without Lukashenka?
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 29 July 2020 13: 17 New
        -6
        Without Lukashenka, the Natsiks-islands, supervised by the Balts and Poles, will quickly fit in there. But father with them also began to be almond-shaped a few years ago, which was a big mistake.
        1. Veleslav17
          Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 22 New
          -9
          Why do you call patriots Natsik ??? It turns out that your Russian patriots are the Nazis. You really decide what's what.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 29 July 2020 13: 40 New
            +6
            Any nationalist is a patriot. But not every patriot is a nationalist.
        2. snake
          snake 29 July 2020 14: 45 New
          +5
          Quote: K-612-O
          Without Lukashenka, the Natsiks-islands, supervised by the Balts and Poles, will quickly fit in there.

          But what about the "Russian world"? Is he really so weak that without Lukashenko all the charms of the Russian world are incapable of competing with the spiritless values ​​of the West?
        3. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 16: 13 New
          -1
          Quote: K-612-O
          Without Lukashenka, the Natsiks-islands, supervised by the Balts and Poles, will quickly fit in there.

          "+" To you.
          Also, "ordinary bourgeois" from all sides will crawl so that BelAZ, Gomselmash, MTZ ... kill for scrap. They will not have a thought either about hard workers or about pensioners.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 29 July 2020 23: 03 New
    -2
    And you put yourself in Lukashenka's place.
    For example, I would have behaved the same way. Russia, alas, is not a very good example to follow, and it is stupid to go to such a Russia.
    Now, if it showed the Chinese pace of real development, then it would be quite possible to join the successful project. And so essentially poverty. In Luxembourg, gasoline is 3 times cheaper than in Russia, gas in the countryside costs the same as electricity. Poverty and shame.
  • Terrible
    Terrible GMO 29 July 2020 12: 54 New
    -10
    Quote: Campanella
    headache Tikhonovskaya

    Quote: Campanella
    Shameless fool!

    What a syllable, what an indicator of the culture and education of Russian citizens. Do you need questions, why don't they want to cooperate with you?

    And you're lucky you're not here. A sharp tongue would have been bitten sharply.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 13: 03 New
      -8
      who would bite his tongue? Belarusian opposition?)))))
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        who would bite his tongue? Belarusian opposition?)))))

        Belarusian people. Lukashenka is really hated by many. In Minsk, in any store, it is enough to say "how bored this cockroach" as a lot of people immediately connect. But if you say “how I love Lukashenka,” then they will look at him as some kind of fuck. And the hottest ones will come in the face
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 30 July 2020 10: 00 New
          -2
          and who is then in the lead in the people's love? opposition?
          1. Maxim L
            Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 16 New
            +1
            I would say that people are not so much for the opposition now as against Lukashenka. By his actions he got everything so much that if he is a candidate, and the other is Uncle Vanya the janitor, the people will vote for Uncle Vanya the janitor. For Lukashenka now only siloviki, officials, various "hunters" and just narrow-minded people. Yes, Lukashenka has more than 3%. But definitely not 76%. He has 20-25% percent in Minsk and 30-35% in the periphery
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 30 July 2020 11: 31 New
              -2
              then there will be a booze immediately after the elections?
              1. Maxim L
                Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 59 New
                0
                There will be a booze, but hardly a big one. Most likely quickly suppressed. The people are pretty much intimidated. I have many friends who are categorically against Lukashenka. But to be afraid to express their opinion openly (and not in the kitchen or work collective), because "what if they put him in jail"
                Therefore, everything will most likely go as usual. The elections will be held on August 9. Lukashenka will draw a fabulous 70-80%. The active part of the population will leave, but they will be immediately suppressed. The rest will be at work and in the kitchens at home to discuss how bad everything is, what ur..d Lukashenka. At the same time, if you ask "why did you not do anything personally to improve the situation," it is embarrassing to look away.
                This is a negative feature of the majority of Belarusians. We are too "pamyarkounyya" (calm in Russian), too "tolerant". There are a lot of inert people who are waiting for someone else to do everything for them
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 30 July 2020 13: 06 New
                  -2
                  in Russia, too, there are such 90%, many do not want to change something, they are afraid that it would not be worse
                  1. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 30 July 2020 13: 25 New
                    +1
                    It is important to always keep balance Any extreme is bad. It is bad to sit and do nothing, allow yourself to be kicked when the authorities are criminal, stupid and useless. At the same time, you cannot arrange pogroms over any trifle. This is also wrong. The people need to be smart enough and organized to defend their interests. Not led by populism. Then such a people will achieve a lot
                    In Belarus, the region is already where it is necessary to change the government. Lukashenka crossed all the lines: economic, moral, personal freedoms and law. Therefore, it must be displaced. Otherwise it will only get worse.
                    And in Russia everything is developing according to a similar scenario. It is impossible for one person to sit in power for 20 years. Any power corrupts. Even the most worthy person, after 20 years of rule, will be dimmed. And his picture of the world of the "common man" will be very different from the real picture of the world of the "common man". Stagnation, decay and degradation of the system will occur. Therefore, the turnover of power is so important. Maybe not every 8 years, but certainly not every 20 years (or even more)
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 29 July 2020 13: 03 New
      0
      ... I can also judge about Belarusians by your performances, but I don’t judge, because not everyone is like you.
      Would you like to bite my tongue? I call a spade a spade and I do not care deeply about your cultural views!
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 July 2020 13: 05 New
      -1
      Uh-huh, get out of here, with your fans of the Austrian artist, which this lady is
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 30 July 2020 08: 49 New
        -1
        who are you sending?
  • karpusha
    karpusha 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
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    What can Lukashenka offer? They don't even promise anything, they only scare them with horror stories about the 90s and the Maidans. Because there is nothing to offer, well, yesterday's grooms cannot build an effective economy. And on the nose looms the strongest economic crisis right up to default (the machine was turned on before the elections). So everything will be as bad with the current government as with the new one, but with the only difference. With the new government there is a prospect of getting out of the hole, but with the old government there is no such prospect.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 29 July 2020 13: 10 New
      0
      With the new power, there is the prospect of climbing out of the hole

      hmmm, that's such a "finger to the sky" statement. It is worth choosing such a new power very carefully and pinning hopes on it. Because the main problem of such new governments is that they are required to produce results (prosperity and immediate), and they have neither experience nor resources. So they rush "out of the fire and into the fire." Than they can finally finish off the country. Vna Ukraine of the last 20 years and Russia of the 80-90s is the best example
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 57 New
        0
        Nothing good will happen to Lukashenka. one hundred%. Therefore, it is better not to wait for this bad end, but to try to fix something.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 30 July 2020 10: 06 New
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          Nothing good will happen to Lukashenka. one hundred%. Therefore, it is better not to wait for this bad end, but to try to fix something.

          Do you understand Russian text poorly? Or are you basically bad with the thought process? What does Lukashenka have to do with it? I write about new government, which hypothetically can come to rule the country as a result of elections. And about the risks that usually arise in this case
          1. Maxim L
            Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 11 New
            +2
            "Do you understand the Russian text badly? Or is your thinking process bad in principle? What does Lukashenka have to do with it?"
            The same question for you. Do you understand what I wrote?
            People want change. They understand that under Lukashenka it will only get worse and worse. one hundred%. Therefore, the people are ready to take the risk and change the government. Even if the change of power does not guarantee improvement. Those. people vote for Tikhanovskaya not because they are confident in her. But because they are against Lukashenka. Because with it, 100% will only get worse and worse
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 30 July 2020 11: 20 New
              0
              Do you understand what I wrote?

              You, with the persistence of a bot program, tell me about Lukashenka. No, I don't understand WHAT you are writing and WHY.
              People want change.

              but that's what I'm writing about. It is necessary to ask the new government in a balanced way, because you can grab such changes that you will not be happy later (Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Ukrainian gang in power)
              Those. people vote for Tikhanovskaya not because they are confident in her. But because they are against Lukashenka.

              a protest vote in favor of another candidate is one of the dumbest actions in an election. This is called "to spite my grandmother, I'll frostbite my ears.
              1. Maxim L
                Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 34 New
                +2
                "You are telling me about Lukashenko with the persistence of a bot program. No, I don't understand WHAT you are writing and WHY. 2"
                I can answer you the same. I already wrote to you 2 times, but with the persistence of a bot you do not want to read and understand an unpleasant thought for you (inappropriate to your worldview)
                "A protest vote in favor of another candidate is one of the stupidest actions in the elections. It's called" to spite my grandmother, I'll get my ears frostbitten. "
                Not this way. If you leave it as it is, it will definitely be worse. And changes give a chance for improvement. This person is taking drugs, then he will definitely have a bad end. Yes, jumping off drugs will not be easy (the body will break), but this must be done so as not to die. The same is with the change of power. If one power, like a drug, leads only to a sad end, then such power must be changed
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 30 July 2020 12: 27 New
                  0
                  and understand an unpleasant thought for you (inconsistent with your worldview)

                  hahahha laughing Yes, I would have piled three heaps on all this Belarusian popobol with elections. On your Lukashenka along with your like her there is some kind of woman. My worldview quite clearly relies on logic (the ability to find patterns and cause-and-effect relationships), the ability to think carefully and draw conclusions without prejudice.
                  Yes, getting off the dope won't be easy

                  your young and naive little head doesn’t realize that so far it’s not about dismounting, but about switching to another drug. Whether it will be better from this is not known. It remains to be understood only empirically. Ukrainians have tried - they got the buttocks of "gingerbread" from the new government. As the saying goes "do not put the field" bully
                  1. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 30 July 2020 13: 57 New
                    0
                    "hahahha laughing yes I would have piled three heaps on all this Belarusian popobol with elections. On your Lukashenka, along with your like her there is some kind of woman." The manner in which you communicate already speaks volumes. And apart from stupid rudeness on your part, I see nothing. All the more far for you, as for the Moon, to "the ability to find patterns and cause-and-effect relationships, the ability to think carefully and draw conclusions without prejudice."
                    "The Ukrainians tried - they got the buttocks of the" gingerbread "from the new government" Yes, I agree that the Ukrainians did not succeed. But at least they tried. We must work further. A normal system in the country is not built in 1-2 years. A few decades. Already an achievement is that they have a voting system. Poroshenko lost to Zelensky. Yes, Zelensky was no better. But at least they have a voting system. Already good. There is a chance that someone will appear normally and the situation will stabilize. This is better than in Belarus, when the voting system does not work at all. From the word completely
                  2. Ka-52
                    Ka-52 31 July 2020 05: 03 New
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                    But at least they tried.

                    yeah, it’s like I went to a gay club - and oops it hurts and didn’t like it, but I tried it ... laughing The USSR and Russia in 85-98 also tried, like the Ukrainians, to play democracy, as the Ukrainians did - also still echoes throughout the country.
                    Poroshenko lost to Zelensky. Yes, Zelensky was no better. But at least they have a voting system

                    changing one Kolomoisky doll to another - what is the advantage? Window dressing alone. In fact, the ideal situation with the government is when there is a system that supports the state, and governments only correct small evolutions. And what about us, what about Belarus, what about Ukraine, everyone wants everything at once. And this is only through scrapping, through the revolution. And revolutions, as you know, only lead to casualties and devastation.
                  3. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 31 July 2020 10: 08 New
                    0
                    "Yeah, it's like I went to a gay club - and it hurts and didn't like it, but I tried it ..." Well, you have such a rude example. I can bring another. Here is a person working in a low-paid and unloved job. He has the option to endure until retirement or quit and look for the best. If he resigns, it is not a fact that he will find better. Maybe he will sit without work at all. But he can also find something much better. But if he is afraid to change something, remains in a bad job, then in retirement he will definitely regret that he did not try to change something in his life.
                    "Change of one Kolomoisky doll for another - what is the advantage? One show." In the possibility of changing. The possibility of a candidate emerging who will be normal
                    "In fact, the ideal situation with the government is when there is a system that supports the state, and governments only correct small evolutions." This is exactly how the system should work. I do not see a working system not in Belarus, not in Russia, not in Ukraine. In all 3 countries, officials are extremely corrupt and stupid. How to build a system? Well, first you need to understand that officials and the president are not sacred personalities and you can make claims to them. And they must respond to these claims, not ignore
                  4. Ka-52
                    Ka-52 31 July 2020 11: 30 New
                    +1
                    Here is a person working in a low-paid and unloved job. He has the option to endure until retirement or quit and look for the best.

                    even in relation to humans, this is a difficult choice. Because it's easy to make decisions when you're young, unmarried and don't have any special qualifications. And imagine a man who has a family on his neck, he is over 40 years old and his specialty is such that to find an alternative - you will knock your legs. Sitting unemployed and starving with the whole family? Go to another, unskilled and most likely lower paid job? Then he thinks 100 times. This is a man, but what about the state? All the more you need to be careful here.
                    How to build a system?

                    complex issue. I have no answer.
                  5. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 31 July 2020 11: 43 New
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                    "even in relation to a person, this is a difficult choice. Because it is easy to make decisions when you are young, unmarried and you have no special qualifications. And imagine a man who has a family on his neck, he is over 40 years old and specializes in such that finding an alternative - you will knock your legs Sitting unemployed and starving with the whole family? Go to another, unskilled and most likely lower-paid job? Then he will think 100 times. This is a man, but what can we say about the state? You need to be careful here. "
                    I fully agree about the complexity of the choice. Nobody talks about lightness. I have several examples of people making decisions and changing jobs. Some have managed to find a good job in the end, while others have not. But if nothing is done, then nothing will definitely change.
                    Here, my classmate's mother quit a couple of years ago at 50, somewhere. She worked as a middle-class engineer. With an average salary. Well, the enterprise had problems and most likely it was waiting for a transfer to another position with a small salary. She quit. I got another job. It was very difficult there. Unusual. I was very tired. I changed my job again a year later. But on the new one everything went well. A year later, she became a boss with a salary 2 times more than in the first job. My classmate is already working there. Also with an excellent salary.
                    If her mother had remained out of her original job, she would now be surviving on a penny. And so she was not afraid to change something. Not right away, but she did it. Now he doesn't deny himself anything
                    Therefore, you should not be afraid of change. Especially when what is now in stock is clearly not good
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 16: 33 New
    0
    Quote: karpusha
    What can Lukashenka offer? They don't even promise anything, they only scare them with horror stories about the 90s and the Maidans. Because there is nothing to offer, well, yesterday's grooms cannot build an effective economy.

    But where did yesterday's grooms think about the prospects, build a nuclear power plant, prepare infrastructure for the future cheap electricity, train specialists for years to come ...
    Only three-headed snakes that do not have an economic program (or are afraid to voice it) are capable of this.
    Quote: karpusha
    With the new government there is a prospect of getting out of the hole, but with the old government there is no such prospect.

    With three-headed-headless power, there are almost 100% chances of plunging into a "color opa" according to the classic scenario.
    1. karpusha
      karpusha 29 July 2020 19: 49 New
      -3
      You couldn't even write a meaningful comment. What kind of power - so are the ideologists.
    2. Maxim L
      Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 02 New
      +1
      "To build a nuclear power plant, to prepare the infrastructure for the future cheap electricity" How everything is done in Belarus - it is still worth thinking about the safety of nuclear power plants. I was shocked when my construction organization was instructed to do one work for a nuclear power plant, although we are not in any way concerned about it. And the work was done almost on drafts. Everything looked very creepy
      "to train specialists for years to come" This is generally a laugh. The quality of education is so low that the university practically does not provide any knowledge. All specialists develop themselves. And who is more mobile just dumps abroad
  • Maxim L
    Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 56 New
    0
    Quote: karpusha
    So everything will be as bad with the current government as with the new one, but with the only difference. With the new government there is a prospect of getting out of the hole, but with the old government there is no such prospect.

    How right they said. I fully support it. Lukashenka is like complex diseases like cancer. If left untreated, there will definitely be a bad end. If treated, then a bad end can also come, but there is also a chance of recovery. And this chance is greater, the earlier you start to heal
    The same is with Lukashenka. The more we tolerate it, the more likely the country's economy will collapse completely. From which it will be almost impossible to rise
  • Veleslav17
    Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 20 New
    -4
    you have confused - acting sick in the head - with persecution mania. And the leader of the movement is Tikhanovskaya.
    And this poll is nonsense, like all the latest actions of the current government.
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 29 July 2020 21: 01 New
    0
    What kind of swing? Lukashenka's rivals are Tikhonovskaya, who is sick in the head with her populist program.
    and why is it just a headache? I personally figured out who would be chosen there in Belarus would have little effect on me, I can say with an open mind. This madam apparently decided to hype following the example of Zelensky, Well, what the hell is not joking. Although it is clearly written on her face - a bitch. But fools, I did not notice there. Who is better than my predictable Lukashenka or such a devil from a snuff-box I cannot tell. But it's not for me to choose them either.
    Although his son of a bitch is probably still better. Personally, I don't like surprises - you never know what they will ultimately result in.
  • Maxim L
    Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 34 New
    0
    Most Belarusians are against Lukashenka. They vote not for Tikhanovskaya, but against Lukashenko. He has already got them all. Even among the pensioners (his eternal electorate), there are already many against him. And this says something. If he even got pennies, which only BT are watching and have no other sources of information
  • minipig79
    minipig79 31 July 2020 10: 43 New
    -2
    It's not up to you to decide who is headache and who is not. If a fan looks at the same face for 50 years, look, just don't shove others with your "values".
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 July 2020 12: 48 New
    +1
    "Elections, elections, candidates ..."laughing non-selectable, in short lol
    1. major147
      major147 29 July 2020 12: 54 New
      +8
      Quote: Thrifty
      "Elections, elections,

      I think Lukashenka will "win", the speeches of those dissatisfied after the elections will crush him.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 29 July 2020 15: 39 New
        0
        Everything is "true:" in the "table of ranks" Lukashenko is lower than Putin, because he (Lukashenko) has a "rating" and is somewhat lower than that of Putin, not much, but lower .... laughing
    2. dauria
      dauria 29 July 2020 15: 34 New
      +2
      non-selectable, in short


      But they have a column "Against all". This is a serious thing. The most powerful argument "If not Putin (Petin, Vasin), then who? Not for Ksyusha," disappears.
      Not a panacea, there are ways to get around. But still.
  • svp67
    svp67 29 July 2020 12: 24 New
    12
    It remains only to find out who conducted this rating, in the sense who PAYED ... I do not believe in such "ratings" ...
    Although Lukashenka's success in August I DO NOT Doubt ... No matter how anyone likes it
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 29 July 2020 12: 46 New
      +1
      You can only believe in God!
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
      0
      Against this background, very interesting news about the detention of 32 employees of a foreign PMC in Belarus near Minsk today.
      If not a trick, which I doubt, then they decided to take Butler seriously, given the intensification of the Belarusian liberda and the Natsik-islets
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 July 2020 13: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: K-612-O
        Against this background, very interesting news about the detention of 32 employees of a foreign PMC in Belarus near Minsk today.

        One-piece platoon of "specialists" ... Now I won't be surprised if they turn out to be from "Wagner" ...
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 29 July 2020 13: 13 New
          +1
          Well, why, there may well be Polish geese, which went through the nenka. Again, if not a trick, but if a trick is talentless. AG should not work so clumsily, the news on the Belt was
          1. Aleksandr56478
            Aleksandr56478 29 July 2020 13: 29 New
            +2
            yeah, in these elections the AHL accused the Russian Federation and Russian oligarchs of interfering. I bet more than half that the Wagnerites will be found. Babariko (now a seated, failed presidential candidate) was nevertheless pro-Russian.
        2. Veleslav17
          Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 24 New
          +4
          aha, before Frau A, then the White Legion in Bobruisk. Now there are 32 mercenaries and they were probably taken by a district police officer with a forester.
          CLOWNADE is happening now.
      2. Terrible
        Terrible GMO 29 July 2020 13: 44 New
        +6
        Quote: K-612-O
        If not a trick, which I doubt,

        Correctly doubt it.

        Let us remind you that during a visit to the 5th separate special-purpose brigade in Maryina Gorka on July 24, Alexander Lukashenko mentioned private military companies.

        - The Secretary of State correctly said that all sorts of wars now begin with street protests, demonstrations, then Maidans. On the Maidan, if there are no people of our own (we have not enough “maydanutyh”), they will be pulled from the side. These are professional military men, bandits who are specially trained, mainly within the framework of PMCs around the world, and earn a lot of money on provocations in certain states, the president said.

        Oh yes, let me remind you that in recent weeks he has already traveled to almost half of the military units or "law enforcement agencies." It is beneath their dignity to communicate with the people.

        Watch your hands. Tikhanovsky was nominated as a candidate and he was clearly popular with residents of the regions. Lukashenko: we will not allow provocations of the Maidan, populists and other similar speeches.

        Bam! The next day, a provocation is carried out, Tikhanovsky is arrested and still not released from the punishment cell. Of course, there is a video of this Oscar-winning event, but the court does not care.

        Babariko is nominated and his popularity breaks all records. Lukashenko: All these "fat cats / bourgeoisie" to the "law"!

        A day / two later, he is intercepted by the KGB / KGK on a deserted country road on the way to Minsk (when he was driving to take signatures), lawyers are not allowed, OMON is searched at home (without witnesses), a beautiful movie is shown on TV about an evil banker who ripped off entrepreneurs to the bone, abroad millions, and then hundreds of millions of dollars, that money was found in the bank, and this wretch decided to take out the national treasure from the country! Pictures of Belarusian authors ... True, they missed the story that it was he who ensured their return to the country, open access to the collection and the annual title of patron of Belarusian culture.

        After Bam, Bam, Bam! After each speech, the “defeated” coronavirus appears in the CEC, then people are chased by paddy wagons because of queues, and now, when you file a complaint with the KGB, you are immediately taken to the courtyard in paddy wagons.
      3. val43
        val43 29 July 2020 13: 55 New
        +3
        It reminds me of something. Bah! Exactly - Russian special forces in the Kiev sewers. wink
    3. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      who conducted this rating, in the sense who PAYED ... I do not believe such "ratings" ...

      Who? And there is only one option. Conduct social polls have the right only to those who are close in power and like a faithful dog fulfills her every whim.

      And what rating of Grygorych can be seen at every meeting of his eminent confidants, the "elite", so to speak. Solid ministers, eminent people, deputies, and dozens of people come from the state. organizations.

      And even they have nothing to answer except insults and the fact that they themselves are to blame, that they live badly.
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 07 New
        0
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        Quote: svp67
        who conducted this rating, in the sense who PAYED ... I do not believe such "ratings" ...

        And what rating of Grygorych can be seen at every meeting of his eminent confidants, the "elite", so to speak. Solid ministers, eminent people, deputies, and dozens of people come from the state. organizations.
        And even they have nothing to answer except insults and the fact that they themselves are to blame, that they live badly.

        Yes, it was a laugh to look at these meetings. There are a couple of dozen driven people with sour mines. And in some meetings even the seats were only half full. Therefore, Lukashenko and Konopatskaya do not hold rallies - almost no one will attend them.
  • the most important
    the most important 29 July 2020 12: 25 New
    16
    Is elections without choice an election?
    1. novel66
      novel66 29 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +8
      there was such an anecdote in Soviet times:
      comes Brezhnev, Georgians from the market meet him with an early watermelon in their hands, and Brezhnev to him: "treat him with a watermelon!" Georgians give him "Vibirai, Daragoy!" he was taken aback "how to choose, there is only one watermelon !!" Georgians to him on this "uh, you are also one with us, but every time we choose !!"
      1. ufpb
        ufpb 29 July 2020 12: 49 New
        +8
        The general secretary was NEVER elected in the elections - he was appointed to the post. And in those days there was no such anecdote.
        1. novel66
          novel66 29 July 2020 12: 56 New
          0
          yes, but I, of course, did not live there ... you know better
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
          +9
          Elected at the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
        3. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 29 July 2020 13: 43 New
          +1
          There was such an anecdote: I heard him as a high school student. And this is the end of the 70s. The general secretary, after all, was elected, but not by universal suffrage, but in a narrow circle of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
      2. Junior Private
        Junior Private 29 July 2020 13: 02 New
        +7
        A slightly different interpretation: the very first democrat was God. He brought Eve to Adam and said - "Well, Adam, CHOOSE your wife."
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 29 July 2020 12: 44 New
      +1
      Is the election in America from 2 parties an election?
      In fact, all elections are profanity, and the outcome is always decided by the passionary group followed by the herd.
    3. Antokha
      Antokha 29 July 2020 12: 44 New
      0
      No need to tell a lie, there are no children here (children are also not good at lying).
      Without a choice - this is when there was one candidate - Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev.
      There is a choice of at least three named people. And the quality of this choice is determined by each of them independently.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 29 July 2020 12: 25 New
    16
    And why am I not surprised? Only one country can throw out the trick in the elections and "please" either a huckster or a clown. Otherwise, everything is either predictable or minimal choice ...
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 29 July 2020 12: 31 New
      +8
      Only one country can throw out the trick in the elections and "please" either a huckster or a clown

      in our history there was a traitor-perestroika and a drunk "I was tired". Not the best choice either no
      1. major147
        major147 29 July 2020 12: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: Ka-52
        Only one country can throw out the trick in the elections and "please" either a huckster or a clown

        in our history there was a traitor-perestroika and a drunk "I was tired". Not the best choice either no

        They did not say before the elections that they would betray and get drunk. On the contrary, such advances were distributed .... In other matters, as always and everywhere.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 16: 49 New
          -1
          Quote: major147
          They did not say before the elections that they would betray and get drunk. On the contrary, such advances were distributed .... In other matters, as always and everywhere.

          Not always and not everywhere.
          Lukashenka didn’t give up, didn’t drain or betrayed.
          And the words "socialism", "Soviet republics" do not hook him. hi
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 29 July 2020 18: 50 New
            +2
            Of course I did not pass and did not merge.
            The question of whom?
            As for the people of the Republic of Belarus, you can't say better than them - we will live badly, but not for long.
            26 years on a global scale - in an instant
          2. major147
            major147 29 July 2020 21: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            Lukashenka didn’t give up, didn’t drain or betrayed.

            But somehow the people are not very happy ...
  • JD1979
    JD1979 29 July 2020 12: 31 New
    +8
    72.3%? Come on)), was the survey conducted among the closest associates of the AHL?
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 29 July 2020 12: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: JD1979
      72.3%? Come on)), was the survey conducted among the closest associates of the AHL?

      not he just called on the eve of VVP and asked: Volodimir Volodimrovich, do you think 80% will be okay for me?
      GDP replied: khe! Alexander Grigorievich, I recommend that you put it 5% lower than mine! "
      AHL: sixty-two will it go?
      GDP: quite!
  • vvvjak
    vvvjak 29 July 2020 12: 32 New
    +3
    Almost two-thirds of the respondents said they are ready to vote for the incumbent head of state in the elections - 72,3 percent for Alexander Lukashenko

    No words, only thoughts. And even then obscene.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 July 2020 12: 32 New
    +7
    Then Lukashenka will make changes to the constitution of Belarus, self-zero his reign, and will remain forever (until the wheelchair grows up), the head of Belarus! !!
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak 29 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: Thrifty
      Then Lukashenka will make changes to the constitution of Belarus, self-zero his reign, and will remain forever (until the wheelchair grows up), the head of Belarus! !!

      He already did it a long time ago.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 29 July 2020 12: 34 New
    +1
    Almost two-thirds of respondents said they were ready to vote for the incumbent head of state in the elections - 72,3 percent for Alexander Lukashenko. The closest competitor in the upcoming elections is 37-year-old Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. About 7,5% of the citizens of Belarus intend to vote for it.
    ... Logically, the best, the enemy of the good ... laughing
  • prior
    prior 29 July 2020 12: 34 New
    -5
    Interesting photo.
    Lukashenka took everyone to the field and ..... talked about the harvest.
    No computers, no chairs, no carpets ...
    For such a president, and I would vote.
    1. major147
      major147 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: prior
      talked about the harvest.
      No computers, no chairs, no carpets ...
      For such a president, and I would vote.

      This is tinsel, for that and the calculation.
    2. Courier
      Courier 29 July 2020 13: 34 New
      +9
      This is probably why some countries rely on computers, while others remain on their collective farm with Rygoryvichy
      1. prior
        prior 29 July 2020 13: 47 New
        +2
        At Rygorovych, by the way, in the collective farms of the tractor with GPS, they plow according to the program. Horseradish an extra liter of fuel will be spent. And their milk is made from milk, not from palm oil.
        And in the homes of collective farmers, the Internet is fiber-optic .... laid.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 29 July 2020 14: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: prior
          Rygorovych, so by the way, in the collective farms of the tractor with GPS, they plow according to the program. Horseradish an extra liter of fuel will be spent. And their milk is made from milk, not from palm oil.
          And in the homes of collective farmers, the Internet is fiber-optic .... laid.

          But you shouldn't go to extremes, everyone is wonderful or everything is gone, ... to your barrel of honey, fly in the ointment ...
          By June 1, the total debts of large and medium-sized agricultural enterprises reached BYN 14,8 billion. Since the beginning of the year, the amount of debt has grown by 4,6% ... the share of delinquencies in the total volume of agricultural debt was 20,9%. In other words, agricultural companies do not give creditors every fifth ruble they borrowed. For comparison: as of June 1, the share of bad debts in industry was 7,4%, in construction - 4,6%, in trade - 5,7% ... Agriculture is a super-debtor, since the amount of its receivables is several times lower than the lender and loan and loan commitments. As of June 1, this difference reached 8,7 times.
          https://banki24.by/news/4294-selskoe-hozyaystvo-stalo-superdolzhnikom
          1. prior
            prior 29 July 2020 14: 55 New
            +1
            I would like to know such real statistics for Russia, at least for gas.
            The Belarusian problems would seem like a great success ...
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 29 July 2020 15: 04 New
              0
              Who says that everything is fluffy with gas in Russia, yesterday's article here is an example of how many copies were broken, there are statistics for every taste ...
            2. Maxim L
              Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 15 New
              0
              Quote: prior
              I would like to know such real statistics for Russia, at least for gas.
              The Belarusian problems would seem like a great success ...

              As a Belarusian, it is not easier for me that there are problems somewhere in Russia. Strange logic. Like someone's worse - you can relax.
              The reality is that Belarusian agriculture is unprofitable. And it lives (like all branches of Belarus) at the expense of cheap oil and gas resources of Russia and loans from Russia. And this is wrong
        2. karpusha
          karpusha 29 July 2020 19: 52 New
          0
          What other computers for gps. They made fun. I worked for a couple of years with the state. collective farms - complete darkness. Rod is all that is bad.
      2. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Courier
        This is probably why some countries rely on computers, while others remain on their collective farm with Rygoryvichy

        They said great. I will add that this is why some countries have high-tech agriculture. With computer processing and minimal human effort. And in another, they almost work like a sickle ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 July 2020 12: 37 New
    +7
    37-year-old Svetlana Tikhanovskaya. About 7,5% of citizens intend to vote for it
    Even with big questions to the incumbent president, 37-year-old Svetlana is up to the tricky and cunning Lukashenko. Moreover, the other day she announced the futility of integrating Belarus with Russia.
    1. karpusha
      karpusha 29 July 2020 12: 55 New
      0
      He declares one thing, but does something completely different. In other words, he will replace this for 26 years. Words and deeds diverge. He is the first to merge independence in favor of personal power.
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 29 July 2020 13: 12 New
      -1
      She has a specific political program called: "Baba Yaga is against!"
      It is only the most stubborn opposition that can vote for it.
      And there is a feeling that Madame is working for the cookies, poor fellow ...
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Campanella
        She has a specific political program called: "Baba Yaga is against!"
        It is only the most stubborn opposition that can vote for it.
        And there is a feeling that Madame is working for the cookies, poor fellow ...

        So Lukashenka does not allow anyone else to appear. Here Babariko was - so he planted. As soon as someone normal gains at least some popularity in Belarus, while criticizing Lukashenka, then immediately either prison or flight from the country (if he has time). There is no other way. And the people are tired of it. Therefore, they vote AGAINST Lukashenka
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 30 July 2020 10: 37 New
          -1
          This is normal, anyone who has tasted the power wants to prolong the high.
          On the other hand, there is fatigue from power, this is a fact, but after all, everything is done not for the sake of some sensations, although they are important and there are methods of creating the illusion of movement and only an advanced man in the street is able to get real pleasure from the routine immutability of political life.
          In fact, it is the opposition that creates this tension in society, in an attempt to seize power.
          And if you look at business, then a change of face will not bring stability and development to Belarus, so the question arises, and it is not easier to live by the existing rules and enjoy the fact that there is and not look for a crane in the sky.
          The fatigue of the people and the real hardships of life are two different things.
          It's like changing wives, correcting the mistakes of youth.)))
          1. Maxim L
            Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 07 New
            +1
            You do not understand. It's not about being tired. Previously, Lukashenka had an unspoken agreement with the people. The economy is developing, we tolerate his tsarist ways.
            Now everything has changed.
            1. The economy is full of well .. We live only through loans. If nothing changes, there will be inevitable collapse. With all the ensuing consequences. Most thinking people do not want to lead to this, the situation can be improved. But not under Lukashenka. He's too rigid in his thinking. Doesn't want to change. And what is there to hide, here he does not want to change many issues (corruption)
            2. Every year, the lawlessness on his part (in terms of legality) is growing more and more. Hitler also did not immediately start firing at people. North Korea, too, has become its current state in more than one year. I, as a Belarus, do not want to come to the level of North Korea
            3. Lukashenko's arrogance and mockery. The country is full ... with health care, and he says that everything is OK. His massive departures of doctors do not bother him. At the same time, all officials and "confidants" have separate lech.komissii (and the common people have to wait 2 weeks to get to the therapist). How not to get angry after that? Especially when there is the familiar "prikorytniki" whose life everything goes well, as they have no principles, go over their heads and lick the right asses
  • demo
    demo 29 July 2020 12: 48 New
    +1
    So what do you say!
    ProstAta decorates a man!
    Especially if he is the president.
    Moreover, the President of the Republic of Belarus.
  • Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 29 July 2020 12: 49 New
    +5
    Well, imagine yourself as a resident of Belarus. What are you going to vote for a barberry, or for the already well-known Old Man? None of the barberries will hold power on their own, which means, at least, you need to say goodbye to sovereignty. And then there are constant references to the fact that all the failures of the new president are connected with the fact that the old one ruined everything. So I believe this rating.
    1. major147
      major147 29 July 2020 13: 01 New
      -1
      Quote: Moskal 55
      And then there are constant references to the fact that all the failures of the new president are connected with the fact that the old one ruined everything.

      good
    2. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 29 July 2020 13: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Moskal 55
      Well, imagine yourself as a resident of Belarus

      Quote: Moskal 55
      Would you vote for a barberry

      Yes.

      Quote: Moskal 55
      which means, at least, you need to say goodbye to sovereignty. And then there are constant references to the fact that all the failures of the new president are connected with the fact that the old one ruined everything.


      So, on 29.07.20/25/4 we have President Lukashenko. What will we have by the new year after another XNUMX years of "reign"? There is a huge hole in the budget, which is only growing and there is nothing to close it, ANNUAL infusions of at least XNUMX billion dollars are required.

      After the "choices" by November / December, at first huge inflation is expected (the printing press has already started working), and then the default, because the handouts of the Russian Federation are over, and Comrade Luka has not learned anything to do in 25 years.

      If the president is replaced and tell me, who will be to blame for this economic collapse? The one who was elected a month ago, or the one who sat on the throne 26, buying up residences and "Teslas"?

      Oh yes, also independence. Tell him about her. After all, he signs integration cards behind the scenes every year.
    3. Veleslav17
      Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 26 New
      -7
      only tell your horror stories to children at night. And we in Belarus will figure it out without you.
      1. JD1979
        JD1979 29 July 2020 14: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Veleslav17
        And we in Belarus will figure it out without you.

        And you are "like belarus" in the AHL on what position? Or rats, when people are not enough in the service to do nothing?
      2. Campanella
        Campanella 30 July 2020 11: 33 New
        0
        Understand, they explain to you what will happen to you, and you are pouting your lips?
        Do you think the "right" person will come and solve your problems, miraculously in the context of a general world crisis?
        No loans, no integration?
        Where do you live? On Mars?
        Excuse me, but your position resembles the Maidan views of your neighbors.
        If Ukraine is a role model for you, go ahead and sing
    4. Maxim L
      Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Moskal 55
      Well, imagine yourself as a resident of Belarus. What are you going to vote for a barberry, or for the already well-known Old Man? None of the barberries will hold power on their own, which means, at least, you need to say goodbye to sovereignty. And then there are constant references to the fact that all the failures of the new president are connected with the fact that the old one ruined everything. So I believe this rating.

      Rave. Go to Minsk. Ask the people. Out of 10 people, at best, 2 will be for Lukashenka. And they hardly confess, because now it is a shame to confess love for Lukashenka
  • tatra
    tatra 29 July 2020 12: 52 New
    -4
    There can be many claims to Lukashenka, and there are a lot of Lukashenka's maniacal critics.But it is already clear in advance that no matter who the enemies of the communists become in his place, for Belarus and the Belarusian people everything will only get worse than under Lukashenka. And these critics of Lukashnko are not able to propose their best candidate, they, as is customary among the enemies of the communists, are only stupid, irrational AGAINST.
    1. Maxim L
      Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 24 New
      0
      Quote: tatra
      There can be many claims to Lukashenka, and there are a lot of Lukashenka's maniacal critics.But it is already clear in advance that no matter who the enemies of the communists become in his place, for Belarus and the Belarusian people everything will only get worse than under Lukashenka. And these critics of Lukashnko are not able to propose their best candidate, they, as is customary among the enemies of the communists, are only stupid, irrational AGAINST.

      I explain clearly why they vote AGAINST Lukashenka. Because Lukashenka DOES NOT GIVE any sane candidate to appear. As soon as someone sane begins to criticize Lukashenka in some way (even if only a little) and this someone has at least a little fame, then this person is immediately repressed. If he is a businessman, then something from the business will stick to him. If he is an ordinary person, then anything (money, weapons, drugs, pornography) will be planted on him.
      Those. complete lawlessness. And the people got it. Lukashenka is now believed only by the most dense and dark pensioners. His electorate is also the security forces, officials, etc. The others hate him
      1. tatra
        tatra 30 July 2020 12: 26 New
        -2
        What you, "sane" enemies of the Communists, you have clearly proved both under Soviet rule and after you seized the republics of the USSR. For your country and people, you always have only a stupid, irrational AGAINST, a cowardly whine that you have nothing to do with what you have undertaken to do. And you have FOR you only for yourself, loved ones.
        1. Maxim L
          Maxim L 30 July 2020 13: 48 New
          +1
          Everything is clear from your manner of speech. I wrote you everything reasonably, but you have only abstract "ideological". In your beloved regime, all officials, "confidants", athletes, show business and other "elite" have accounts and homes in the West, they are treated in the West, their children study and live in the West. Or say no such thing? Why does the entire so-called "elite", if this is such a wonderful country, do not live and die, study and receive medical treatment at home? And in any successful case, he dumps for the cardon. You can refer to the USSR in every way, but under it at least the "elite" lived and died in the USSR.
          And the current regimes in Belarus and in Russia (especially in Russia) have awesome stash in the West. And just about that - they blame them on the West. I am already silent about their children. Those through one study and live in the West
          And here the common people are constantly tormented here. From the lawlessness of the authorities, from poor health care services, education, utilities. From non-compliance with the law, corruption, etc.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 July 2020 12: 52 New
    -6
    And I like Lukashenka. He can achieve his goal. Just digging the road to the embassy dachas is worth a lot.
  • karpusha
    karpusha 29 July 2020 12: 53 New
    +2
    Now look who is in charge of this bureau that conducted the survey. A creepy official conducts a survey commissioned by the authorities, the result is predictable. Lukashenka's real rating is good if 35-40 percent is not more.
    1. Tzar
      Tzar 29 July 2020 13: 12 New
      +2
      You don't even need to look, because pre-election opinion polls in Belarus seem to be under a complete ban. And if a large-scale survey is suddenly conducted, then this is a survey ordered by whoever needs a survey laughing
      1. Veleslav17
        Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 27 New
        +1
        Thus, there are definitely more ideological workers and secretaries of the Belarusian Republican Youth Union in Belarus than the respondents. So they were interviewed - this is the result.
    2. Maxim L
      Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 26 New
      0
      Quote: karpusha
      Now look who is in charge of this bureau that conducted the survey. A creepy official conducts a survey commissioned by the authorities, the result is predictable. Lukashenka's real rating is good if 35-40 percent is not more.

      40% is unlikely to be. At 30-35 I will still believe. In Minsk, he will pick up a maximum of 20-25. At the expense of the villages will be 30-35.
  • 1536
    1536 29 July 2020 13: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: Campanella
    What kind of swing? Lukashenka's rivals are Tikhonovskaya, who is sick in the head with her populist program.
    Well, she will achieve fair elections, so what? Well, will he delete the commonwealth with Russia from the political plans and what? Will he go to the front-end panel to earn on pensions for pensioners? Shameless fool!

    Is this the one whose confidant dreams of a new A. Hitler coming to power? Then in 1933, in German pubs, they also thought that nothing bad could happen, since these stormtroopers of some corporal were simply "sick in the head." Well, well, apparently, the fate of the NATO bridgehead is also in store for Belarus. The adversaries will be right under Smolensk. And this is not only very serious, but it is time to understand that all these "protests" and other "dough" are kneading for a reason. In Russia today there is, what is, and what is, what to drink, but now they have pulled out history, nationalism, as we see, undisguised Nazism, etc. from various boxes. things, and all this was brought down on the Belarusians. It didn't work with Sverdlovsk and Khabarovsk, the stake is on Minsk. And we have peace and quiet, but God's grace? I personally do not want to lose the country for the second time in my life!
    1. Veleslav17
      Veleslav17 29 July 2020 13: 29 New
      0
      he. no longer trusted. At the same time, the uncle skidded - because the authorities by their attitude to the people - bring these people to a boil.
    2. Courier
      Courier 29 July 2020 13: 38 New
      -5
      Take away your Hitler. Because of your communists each third Belarusian was killed by German tanks.
      Have a conscience, dear
      1. Orjo79
        Orjo79 29 July 2020 16: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Courier
        Take away your Hitler. Because of your communists each third Belarusian was killed by German tanks.
        Have a conscience, dear

        There really is no need for Hitler, but it is a rotten thing to count who and for whom died. It was one people, they were friends and loved each other.
        But Hitler would have crushed Belarus anyway, going to Moscow. Bandera also expected that they would be given independence, as we have given, we know. But together, the USSR broke into Europe so that they still sneeze. And if forced, we will repeat the feat of our grandfathers, but without leavened patriotism and imperial thinking.
  • sanya
    sanya 29 July 2020 13: 17 New
    +4
    Shameful lies
    Lukashenka's rating is an oxymoron
    Well maybe about 5 percent or even 6.5 percent
    In reality, Lukashenka has no support and no prospects after the elections, even if he can draw as many
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 29 July 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    Will there be a column "against all" in the bulletin? In Russia, if my memory serves me right, there was no such column. And somehow they did not invite to the presidential elections from posters and TV screens. Unlike voting on amendments.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 July 2020 13: 34 New
    0
    This is already very interesting. The Belarusian KGB detained 32 fighters of a foreign PMC near Minsk. Let's see whose ears are sticking out.
    1. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 29 July 2020 15: 24 New
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Let's see whose ears are sticking out.

      Whose? KGB.
      In 2015, Chorny Dzhyp with militants "broke through" the border. Well, how did it break through ... took down the slagbaum and stopped.
      And then the White Legion was arrested for preparing a coup. Suddenly released after the elections laughing
      In 2010, "found" dead rats allegedly in the water supply and axes in the snow in the center near the square. Suddenly.

      Whatever elections, so "hurray" from all sides climb. They are caught, imprisoned, and then immediately released. Well, surely someone is conniving, a real conspiracy!
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 29 July 2020 14: 13 New
    +4
    Familiar Belarusian guys from Gomel told the saying:
    - "Until Father will rule ?!"
    - "Until Kolya will be!"
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 July 2020 15: 35 New
    +1
    I would like to hear the Belarusian brothers, what do they think?
    1. maksud13
      maksud13 29 July 2020 16: 10 New
      +1
      AHL is no longer the same, and his subordinates somehow do not show imagination - this is on the one hand.
      On the other hand, according to the main news portal of the Republic of Belarus TUT.BY, it is clearly seen that he was well paid for a clear one-way information campaign.
      Besides, serious PR investments in youth and other passionate circles are noticeable. I, personally, myself am dissatisfied with the AHL, but it is even simpler than such impudent interference in our elections from outside. The AHL may be a bad president, but he is our president and you can't drown him with such means and incite people to prostitution and street actions.
    2. Alexga
      Alexga 29 July 2020 16: 22 New
      +2
      Here comrades below and above expressed my idea quite accurately. It infuriates that by conducting a purely version of the Kiev Maidan in Belarus, they do not even mask the ultimate goal. About 72 percent for Lukashenka, I think the figure is approximately correct. Tikhanovskaya will gain 10-15 percent, but after her last statements it may be less. Relying on a protest vote. But few people want to lose their state a second time. It is generally problematic to run as candidates under the white-red-white flags, it is enough that few people dare to lose the Russian state language. And the noise in the media sphere is a common foam, especially when calls for the use of white ribbons were heard. Something like this, the "color" revolution, no more. And Lukashenka will boldly use force when the opposition makes riots. And he will do the right thing.
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 38 New
        +1
        Do not burn like that. Which one is Belarus? Belarus says and writes "Belarus", not "Belarus"
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 30 July 2020 10: 51 New
          0
          And I'm not saying that I am Belarusian, I am a citizen of the Republic of Belarus
          1. Maxim L
            Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 55 New
            0
            Then do not answer the questions addressed to Belarusians. If I immigrate to the United States and obtain citizenship there, then I will not become an "American". Yes, I will be a "US citizen". But it would not be correct to call me "American". Especially if immigration occurs in adulthood after 16 years.
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 30 July 2020 11: 18 New
              0
              What, buddy, are we starting to divide citizens into good and bad? What then? Maskolak for gilyak, maskol for knives, will we finish Belarus above all else? So this is for you to the southern neighbors. True, it didn't end very well for them.
              1. Maxim L
                Maxim L 30 July 2020 11: 28 New
                0
                Quote: AlexGa
                What, buddy, are we starting to divide citizens into good and bad? What then? Maskolak for gilyak, maskol for knives, will we finish Belarus above all else? So this is for you to the southern neighbors. True, it didn't end very well for them.

                Well, imagine the waters. Takes officials and beats up someone close to you? You won't be considered bad? Give the other cheek? And if they tell you cancer, will you obediently become too?
                There is an official ofigel and steals mercilessly, then he is bad. And if at the same time he also mocks ordinary people, then this is even worse
                Please don't play sophistry with me (bad / good citizen). Let's raise the philosophical topic of what is bad, what is good? This is sophistry. If any man beat and rape your daughter / sister / wife, is he good or bad? Bad? So why do you start dividing citizens into good and bad?
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 30 July 2020 11: 36 New
                  0
                  Stop, stop, stop! Don't go aside. You just recently stated that since I am not a Belarusian, I have no right to answer questions addressed to my Belarusian brothers. And the fact that I am a citizen of the Republic of Belarus does not mean anything. And where are the good and bad officials? It's not about them yet, but about your words, which sound offensive.
                  1. Maxim L
                    Maxim L 30 July 2020 12: 19 New
                    0
                    I mean, if you are a Russian or a Ukrainian who emigrated to Belarus after 16 years and received citizenship, then you are a citizen of Belarus, but you are not a Belarusian by worldview. Therefore, you do not perceive the Belarusian reality as the Belarusians who were born and raised here perceive. Therefore, when some foreigner asks a question to Belarusians, it is incorrect for you to answer. It would be better to add that you emigrated to Belarus. It will be more honest that way. Because if someone asks a question from an American, and a Russian who emigrated in the late 90s will answer, then the answer will be clearly incorrect. Even if he lived there for 20 years and has citizenship
                    “And where are the good and bad officials?” You wrote that “What, buddy, are we starting to divide citizens into good and bad? What then?” With obvious reproach. I replied that there are clearly bad people, from which side do not look
                    "This is not about them yet, but about your words, which sound offensive." Excuse me. I was not trying to offend you. I just wanted to show that it is not entirely correct to consider a Belarusian person who emigrated to Belarus.
                    1. Alexga
                      Alexga 30 July 2020 12: 52 New
                      0
                      Excuse me. I was not trying to offend you.

                      Maxim, the question is closed, everything is fine. I have lived in Belarus and Belarus for over 50 years in total, in Belarus since its proclamation. And in her army he served a little over 10 years, in the Soviet Army much more. So I know the local realities firsthand. And I also know what Lukashenka is. His position does not involve love. Let's just say, in terms of human mentality, power has always been disliked by the people. We always think about her more when talking about salaries, taxes and other displeasure. But we choose this power. As for current affairs, I will say this, everyone except Luke is talking about the 1993 Constitution with all the ensuing consequences. It was corrected in 1995, there was more or less agreement in society, no one divided it into Belarusians, Russians, Ukrainians, Jews, Tatars, etc. ... Now this is a threat. And voting on the principle "anyone except Lukashenka" does not suit me. He is not good, but he is not better at the moment. I am curious, in your opinion, what was wrong in our country over the past 26 years. More precisely, what had to be done. The point of view of your generation is interesting.
                      1. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 30 July 2020 14: 25 New
                        0
                        I am 88 years old. Himself from an ordinary family. Not poor, not rich. Regular. They never swelled from hunger, but they never had too much too much. I myself studied at the university for free and for the 9th year I have been working as an ordinary engineer with a regular salary. This introduction is about understanding what social position I occupy.
                        Now I'll tell you what I don't like about our country:
                        1. I do not like the fact that Lukashenka surrounds himself with sheer sycophants, not professionals. He makes himself a connoisseur everywhere and in everything (which is clearly not the case). As a result, there are problems in almost everything. run by those who clearly do not correspond to their positions. I have enough acquaintances at various state enterprises in which a normal director was fired. In his place, they put some kind of security officer or other "approximate", as a result of the enterprise slipped to full bottom. The same thing is happening now with our economy. From the 15th it was run by more or less qualified people. But now Lukashenka trusts no one, except the security officials, so the security forces began to manage the economy. A security official became the prime minister. What this will lead to in the economy is not difficult to guess
                        2. Solid "ostentatious". Everything. Everywhere and everywhere. On TV one thing, in reality it is completely different. From personal experience - he worked during his student days in a construction brigade. We handed over money for robes. But they never got anything. But then they decided to shoot our squad for television. The robes were on the next day. Now I work for a construction company. On TV they showed pathetically how the line was launched at the plant. Progress and all that. In fact, the line is worthless to anyone. Further, it was shown on TV that my organization designed such and such an area in such and such a place in Minsk. In fact, we didn't even start. And let's not start, as there are a lot of questions. And this is all just a small fraction of what I personally can cite as an example. The result is that the main thing in our country is a beautiful picture. Few people care about reality.
                        3. According to recent events - the complete absence of the law. People are grabbed on the street for clapping their hands. Or that they stand in line for objectionable T-shirts in the store (3%. I mean these T-shirts). This is complete nonsense. This is an overkill. You can not do it this way. I can understand the harsh measures against the violent crowd, but this is clearly not the case.
                        4. Corruption. Everywhere and in everything. Not in the form of bribes, but in the form of various privileges, indulgences, etc. Luka says not to build in Minsk. Indeed, in Minsk there are two times less steel construction. But who? State developer MAPID. At the same time, the private developer "Dana Holding" is provided with a huge plot in Minsk for the construction of an entire block. Why? Because they are protected by the Lukashenka family. Under what conditions? Resettlement at the expense of the state, local and main communications at the expense of the state. And this is for a private company !!! They only have to cut the money. Those. I pay them the profits from my taxes.
                        Further "Snuffboxes" all over Minsk. Earlier, Lukashenka removed the kiosks of all private traders, since this spoiled the appearance of the city. And then suddenly it was a friend of his son's who suddenly allowed them to be put just everywhere. Cool business. What can I say. Anyone will get rich here (even), because he is a monopolist
                      2. Maxim L
                        Maxim L 30 July 2020 14: 40 New
                        0
                        5. Healthcare. At the age of 31, I had to face our healthcare. I was just shocked. Doctors are wildly lacking. They earn a penny and, accordingly, do not want to work. Many smart doctors are dropping out of the country en masse. At best, to the private sector. It takes 2 weeks to get to a therapist. You may not get to narrower specialties at all. Because they simply do not exist. They quit. At the same time, if you get there, then often the level of the doctor is so low that it is better to go to a private one (not the fact that the level is better there. But at the same time, it will take a lot of money). At the same time, Lukashenka declares to the whole country that he is not worried about the outflow of doctors from the country. Well, isn't it a bastard? The commission itself should lie down.
                        6. A huge gap between various officials, "close" and common people. An honest person with a salary of $ 500 can only suffer in polyblins, think about saving up housing, etc. The "confidants" have connections everywhere. Own medical treatment commissions, benefits for that, benefits for this. In general, it is clearly not the problem of ordinary people who live
                        7. At 31, I realized that it would be better to go to the bureaucratic branch, and not to become an honest engineer. Just an example. During the university, my classmate became the secretary of the Belarusian Republican Youth Union for the faculty. When she was interviewed, she was asked "why are you going to secretaries?" To which she simply replied "for the sake of a cash addition." There, everyone was taken aback by such honesty, but taught her how to speak correctly) Then, throughout the university, she transferred money to me and her other friends for a card (supposedly for some kind of participation in something), and then we gave it to her. Those. is it clear at what level corruption is already starting? Further, I mean how we have various trade union committees, the Belarusian Republican Youth Union, ideologists, etc. above the enterprise. And very often their salaries are not less, if not more, than those of engineers. What benefits do they give? Nothing. Continuous propaganda, window dressing, etc. But try to get there. Only "theirs" are taken
    3. karpusha
      karpusha 29 July 2020 19: 55 New
      -1
      The country is an ass, the rating of the incumbent president has dropped sharply in recent months. Mostly due to disrespectful rhetoric during the epidemic. Phrases from the category look at this fool who contracted the coronavirus and died. In general, people are already angry to the extreme. This has never happened in all the years.
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 38 New
        0
        Quote: karpusha
        The country is an ass, the rating of the incumbent president has dropped sharply in recent months. Mostly due to disrespectful rhetoric during the epidemic. Phrases from the category look at this fool who contracted the coronavirus and died. In general, people are already angry to the extreme. This has never happened in all the years.

        I agree. He got everyone out of measure
    4. Maxim L
      Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      I would like to hear the Belarusian brothers, what do they think?

      I am a resident of Minsk and am categorically against Lukashenka. His reign leads only to complete collapse and collapse. Maybe in a year, maybe in 5 years. But the collapse will be. All that Lukashenka has is empty ostentation. Everywhere and at all levels. Everywhere everything is rotten, but we pretend that it is necessary. That everything is fine and we are the best country in the world
      Claims against Lukashenka:
      1. Complete lack of law in the country. The authorities do what they want and when they want. You don't need to prove anything. You can just do what you want
      2. The economy of a country that lives only on loans. Extinction of all spheres (except IT). A huge number of unprofitable enterprises that devour funds with "black holes"
      3. Corruption. Approximate businessmen conduct their business easily and naturally at the expense of administrative resources (construction company "Dana Astra", owner of "Snuffboxes", etc.). Various officials live very well at the expense of various benefits, but at the same time themselves for the most part are completely mediocre. Only one thing is required of them - window dressing and glorification of power
      4. The decline of such important industries as health care and education. Specialists are fleeing the country en masse. Nobody wants to work here for a penny
      These four points are perhaps the most important. There are many more small
  • japs
    japs 29 July 2020 15: 47 New
    +3
    What can you say looking from Brest?
    The situation is very difficult. the opposition has learned to find the right approach to narrow-minded people, to young people.
    There are enough idiots, let's say.
    To put it simply, there are two ways.
    Or everything will remain as it is. And the prospect of going further with Russia.
    Or the Sumerian version. Association, Western IMF loans (they will gladly give this).
    "Reforms" and the ultimate goal are lackeys running errands for Western masters.
    There are no other options.
    You can minus, IMHO.
  • Lumumbo
    Lumumbo 29 July 2020 16: 15 New
    -7
    Yes, Old Man will remain unambiguously .. Now the change of someone may turn into a color revolution and the Maidan .. I doubt that the common people of Belarus want this!
    I didn't want to endure it in the 90s ... Yes, and the protesters mainly live on Western grants and shake the political situation ..
    I would not like Belarus to turn into the Outskirts too ..
    1. cmax
      cmax 29 July 2020 16: 30 New
      +3
      Lulumbo ... You write some nonsense. What grants. People are disgusted to look at this president for 26 years. We live in some kind of kingdom-khanate. The crown is only missing on the head of one chosen official, one verbiage. Mom is 83 years old, she does not receive grants, she receives a pension, which is enough not to die of hunger and buy medicines. Will go to vote against. Clownery this election, no choice. One bank managed for 20 years, received letters from the National Bank, and immediately became a candidate for criminals. During the third search, another one immediately found 900 thousand greenery behind the sofa. Man and 10000 together have never seen before. Is sitting. Everyone already knows how many percent Mr. Yarmoshin will write to the incumbent president .... 75%. For the third time, this figure slips on the state media. So they will write. Hurray "victory" !!!
      1. Lumumbo
        Lumumbo 29 July 2020 17: 02 New
        -3
        Quote: cmax
        You write some nonsense. What grants. People are disgusted to look at this president for 26 years. We live in some kind of kingdom-khanate. The crown is only missing on the head of one chosen official, one verbiage.

        Maybe nonsense, there are a lot of people like you ... But I, like many people, do not want a repetition of the 90s and any color revolutions .. You are only whining protestors, but you do not have a single candidate .. Suggest? And then we will discuss ..
        Look, Ukraine is an example of this .. Or Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya .. How many more examples can you give "democratic victory" ..? Don't make me angry, I have something to compare with and with whom .. hi
        1. karpusha
          karpusha 29 July 2020 20: 01 New
          -2
          It is with the current leadership that we run the risk of meeting the second nineties and the Maidan. What are the current president's economic development plans? Shall we sit back and wait until oil and gas break through? The economy is going into a deep peak and reforms are urgently needed, but this regime is not going to carry out any reforms. The main resource of our country is people. It is in them that you need to invest, and not build flagpoles with court halls and hold European games. I could not take a ticket to the doctor for a child in the clinic, I took it from 4 in the morning and waited until the opening, but apparently I should be reassured by a new courthouse or a new beauty next to the president. People are already fed up with the contrast between what is shown on TV and what ideologues say with what they see in real life.
          1. Lumumbo
            Lumumbo 29 July 2020 20: 19 New
            -5
            Quote: karpusha
            only this regime is not going to carry out any reforms. The main resource of our country is people. It is in them that you need to invest, and not build flagpoles with court halls and hold European games. I could not take a ticket to the doctor for a child in the clinic, I took it from 4 in the morning and waited until the opening, but apparently I should be reassured by a new courthouse or a new beauty next to the president. People are already fed up with the contrast between what is shown on TV and what ideologues say with what they see in real life.

            Mode? What mode do you dream of? As on the outskirts or as in the Baltics? .. Or maybe as in Iraq?
            That you whine and knock out with your noah to tears ... negative
            1. karpusha
              karpusha 29 July 2020 22: 25 New
              -1
              It will be fine as in Poland. Take a look at what they write in the training manual about this. There are no other countries besides Iraq and Ukraine? That's what would not happen, as in Iraq and Libya, the authorities need change.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 30 July 2020 14: 50 New
                +1
                My dear man, explain, why did the Poles get so excited? Don't you think that their so-called abundance comes from the handouts of the striped and the EU for their wild Russophobia?

                Py Sy. If I were in Putin's place, I would have screwed on the gas and oil cranks, and at the same time all the trade with them, that they would have fun with American LNG.
                1. Lumumbo
                  Lumumbo 30 July 2020 15: 20 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  My dear man, explain, why did the Poles get so excited? Don't you think that their so-called abundance comes from the handouts of the striped and the EU for their wild Russophobia?

                  Py Sy. If I were in Putin's place, I would have screwed on the gas and oil cranks, and at the same time all the trade with them, that they would have fun with American LNG.

                  What are you explaining Yuri to the Bandera people .. They want to live near Poland .. Well, let them try
                  How did they get it with their bloody regime "and whining ..
            2. Maxim L
              Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 44 New
              0
              Are you "close" to the authorities? Official? Otherwise, I don't see why you are protecting her so. Lukashenka really got it. I hate him. I go to the polyclinic and cannot see a doctor. You have to wait 3-4 weeks. Because smart doctors quit one by one. And there remains either no one at all, or such doctors to whom it is better not to go. And Lukashenka at the same time broadcasts from the TV that he does not care about the outflow of doctors. How not to hate him for that?
              When the economy is booming on TV, and real wages at factories are 500-1200 rubles. And that is due to the fact that Russia gives loans
          2. Maxim L
            Maxim L 30 July 2020 10: 46 New
            +2
            You are absolutely correct. I fully support it. Belarusians who vote for Lukashenka, or officials, or "confidants", or just very narrow-minded people
  • Orjo79
    Orjo79 29 July 2020 16: 25 New
    -2
    The overwhelming majority of VO users are people with experience and an army past. Put your hand on your heart, tell me, has our oligarchic Russia, being an "older" brother, kind, sensitive, like in a good family, a relative? Of course not. Offended as they could and where they could. I will not list, but the most offensive thing is that RB are parasites at the expense of RF. Bitter for the smart brothers, they have a lot to learn!
    "Skrepbearets" shout that something is not reaching us because of Belarus. Wake up - everything is going either to the West, or to "effective managers". Look at V. Shtyrov's interview to A. Uglanov - I'm in shock! Why was the taiga leased to China? Give it to Belarusians and Ukrainians (but not fascists). So much for the economic bond. The king did so approximately.
    About Old Man. He did not fall under the Russian oligarchy (leadership). And this is a medical fact. He did not lie under the West, but was forced to maneuver, waiting for patriots and sovereigns to come to power in the Russian Federation. The barberry would sell even bison from the forest to Gazprom (he is from there)! But I would have ripped off the head of the advisers who advised Old Man to arrest him now, and this, I think, is sabotage. It should have been either earlier or after the elections. He still would not have scored more than 5%. I love Belarus, brothers, your choice, do not miss. The climate in the Russian Federation also depends on you.
    Forty years of the calendar suggest that, even if not everywhere, I get there.
    PS
    After August 15th I am expecting a friend from school, a stern but fair Belarusian. We are going with him to Orjo (Vladikavkaz), the homeland of the school, then to Abkhazia. There will be time to talk, I’ll learn everything first-hand, if you don’t disdain, I’ll share. Sincerely.
    1. Lumumbo
      Lumumbo 29 July 2020 17: 09 New
      -4
      Quote: Orjo 79
      After August 15th I am expecting a friend from school, a stern but fair Belarusian. We are going with him to Orjo (Vladikavkaz), the homeland of the school, then to Abkhazia. There will be time to talk, I’ll learn everything first-hand, if you don’t disdain, I’ll share. Sincerely.

      I catch the word ! hi Try to write as you can, they will correct it .. This will be a first-hand article .. and then you are tired of the custom ones. Good luck!
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 29 July 2020 19: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Orjo 79
      Why was the taiga leased to China? Give Belarusians

      Well, not everything is so ...
      Belarusians produce oil and gas in Russia - Yangpur Oil Company - as an example “At present, in just one day, the Russian subsidiary of the Belarusian company produces 2,55 million cubic meters of natural gas and 200 tons of gas condensate. https://sputnik.by/economy/20200615/1044925080/Belorusskaya-dochka-v-sutki-dobyvaet-na-Yamale-255-milliona-kubometrov-gaza.html
      Russia allocates duty-free quotas for fishing in the exclusive economic zone in the Barents and Baltic Seas. "In 2005-2019, Belarus received quotas for 75 thousand tons of fish in Russian waters, their estimated average market value exceeded $ 200 million."
      https://news.tut.by/economics/687909.html
      wait for one or another to come to power ... we must now, but who is ready to give in and how much ...
      Oligarchs, they are, of course, but the system of state-owned enterprises in Belarus should not be idealized ... how to find a middle ground ...
  • Postum
    Postum 29 July 2020 16: 42 New
    0
    Of course, now before the elections Luca will draw any rating for himself. Moreover, all independent social workers are prohibited, incl. and voting in social networks and forums
  • Swed
    Swed 29 July 2020 17: 18 New
    +1
    Well, that was announced by the official media, what percentage will be drawn to the candidates.
    1. Early voting - everything is in Lukashenka's piggy bank. Usually they drew 60% at once, now it's even interesting whether they dare or not.
    2. Voting in parts - to Lukashenka's piggy bank.
    3. Did not come to the polls - in Lukashenka's piggy bank. According to minimal estimates, more than 1,5 million Belarusians do not live in their country, although they are listed on paper. + The percentage of people who always do not care about everything - what kind of elections are there.
    4. Some of the voters will vote without any coercion, for the current president - in Lukashenka's piggy bank.
    5. Voting on Election Day - it is impossible to check the count, but in this case more people will have to be attracted, which means more witnesses, so this card will be used as a last resort.

    So count how much he will gain.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 July 2020 17: 44 New
    -1
    And the battle continues again

    Rygorich, lead us ahead

    He's so young again

    And the elections are ahead….

    that yes there ... !! laughing wassat
  • ZhorikVartanov
    ZhorikVartanov 29 July 2020 18: 24 New
    +2
    Government poll shows 70%, independent - 8%)
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 29 July 2020 18: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: ZhorikVartanov
    Government poll shows 70%, independent - 8%)


    You will see, according to the election results, Lukashenka will win in the first round, and the percentage will be close to the official one.
    This confirms that the "official" poll is correct.

    So always, practice confirms the theory.

    This is certainly sarcasm, but the "opposition" poll with 8% is even more bullshit.
  • Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 29 July 2020 19: 10 New
    -2
    Fake, of course. The mustachioed bastard has around 25-30%
    1. Lumumbo
      Lumumbo 29 July 2020 20: 22 New
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      Quote: Imperial Technocrat
      Fake, of course. The mustachioed bastard has around 25-30%

      It's here on the site ..? laughing
      I remember for the amendments to the Constitution, here, in general, almost everyone is against ... and they shouted as much as their ears slammed ... lol
  • race
    race 29 July 2020 21: 53 New
    +1
    Almost two-thirds of the respondents said that they are ready to vote for the incumbent head of state at the elections - 72,3 percent for Alexander Lukashenko.

    Nonsense! Without a doubt, the "poll" was done by Yermoshina's company. Don't even go to the fortuneteller.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 29 July 2020 22: 21 New
      0
      You are not for me, you are at your choice.
      It's useless for me to complain. I don't influence them.
      1. race
        race 29 July 2020 23: 05 New
        -1
        Quote: Benzorez
        You are not for me, you are at your choice.
        It's useless for me to complain. I don't influence them.

        And I did not address this to you either. Who are you for me to complain to you? And where did you find the complaint? It was just a statement of fact.
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 29 July 2020 23: 18 New
          0
          And, I will repeat myself once again - go to the polls, express your opinions there in the ballot papers and you will be happy. Nobody walks nicherta. Then let's make complaints! We were not understood, we were not heard. And we didn't want to, and we didn't think so ...
          1. race
            race 29 July 2020 23: 30 New
            0
            Thanks for the advice! (And what I do without these tips, I will not put my mind to it!) This is exactly what I'm going to do. And not only this.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 29 July 2020 22: 17 New
    -2
    "Almost two thirds of the respondents said that they are ready to vote for the current head of state at the elections - 72,3 percent for Alexander Lukashenko."
    Well, you see?!. And why?
    Because the old horse does not spoil the furrows, however!
    1. race
      race 29 July 2020 23: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      Because the old horse does not spoil the furrows, however!

      But he does not plow deeply either!
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 29 July 2020 23: 12 New
        0
        Is it necessary?!. Another horse - how to plow! So you get tired of straightening.
        I know from work. True, I don't work in agriculture.
  • Orjo79
    Orjo79 29 July 2020 22: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: BrTurin
    Quote: Orjo 79
    Why was the taiga leased to China? Give Belarusians

    Well, not everything is so ...
    Belarusians produce oil and gas in Russia - Yangpur Oil Company - as an example “At present, in just one day, the Russian subsidiary of the Belarusian company produces 2,55 million cubic meters of natural gas and 200 tons of gas condensate. https://sputnik.by/economy/20200615/1044925080/Belorusskaya-dochka-v-sutki-dobyvaet-na-Yamale-255-milliona-kubometrov-gaza.html
    Russia allocates duty-free quotas for fishing in the exclusive economic zone in the Barents and Baltic Seas. "In 2005-2019, Belarus received quotas for 75 thousand tons of fish in Russian waters, their estimated average market value exceeded $ 200 million."
    https://news.tut.by/economics/687909.html
    wait for one or another to come to power ... we must now, but who is ready to give in and how much ...
    Oligarchs, they are, of course, but the system of state-owned enterprises in Belarus should not be idealized ... how to find a middle ground ...

    Thanks for the info, I didn't know something. But even if Degtyarev, having arrived in Khabarovsk, was surprised that the region is forced by an onerous contract to pay American companies for the gas produced from us (!) In dollars ... I can imagine what remains for the Belarusians. By the way, this enslaving contract until 2025 has a full name from our side. Who are they? Maybe that's how they sell their homeland? Degtyarev, of course, "made good" the Kremlin, but he really wanted to please the voters. Thank you again, at least they will stop playing the song, that Belarus, without a sea, drives seafood.
    And all so taiga had to be leased to the Slavs. After the Chinese, there is a wild field all around, and they will get used to it later, drive them out. They are getting stronger ... And we ... And the golden mean on the surface, our "captains" of Russian business must be patriots.
  • KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 29 July 2020 22: 28 New
    -3
    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
    Quote: karpusha
    What can Lukashenka offer? They don't even promise anything, they only scare them with horror stories about the 90s and the Maidans. Because there is nothing to offer, well, yesterday's grooms cannot build an effective economy.

    But where did yesterday's grooms think about the prospects, build a nuclear power plant, prepare infrastructure for the future cheap electricity, train specialists for years to come ...
    Only three-headed snakes that do not have an economic program (or are afraid to voice it) are capable of this.
    Quote: karpusha
    With the new government there is a prospect of getting out of the hole, but with the old government there is no such prospect.

    With three-headed-headless power, there are almost 100% chances of plunging into a "color opa" according to the classic scenario.

    These individuals of the female sex have nothing but criticism of the authorities. The election program - rip your throat like a beluga, that Rygorych is a chopper, but about their plan to increase my (as a citizen of the Republic of Belarus) welfare and economic growth, about which everyone yells, not a word! The generation that survived in the 90s is leaving, in their place come pampered soft-brained babies who have been living for their mother's boobs without shocks since 96.
    1. ship
      ship 30 July 2020 01: 48 New
      -2
      Dear "... for mom's boobs live without shocks .." not only pampered soft-brained kids, but you and many others "... since 96 years." You should be aware of the fact that only Russia has been and remains the "mother's boob" for Belarus, and the current elections, as it were, thank Rygorych personally and his "multi-vector nature"
  • Maxim L
    Maxim L 30 July 2020 09: 48 New
    0
    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
    Quote: K-612-O
    Without Lukashenka, the Natsiks-islands, supervised by the Balts and Poles, will quickly fit in there.

    "+" To you.
    Also, "ordinary bourgeois" from all sides will crawl so that BelAZ, Gomselmash, MTZ ... kill for scrap. They will not have a thought either about hard workers or about pensioners.

    And you have a fat minus. Have you ever been to Belarus? All these enterprises are already scrap metal. BelAZ also holds on a little. The rest live on state subsidies (which are due to Russian loans). A huge number of state-owned enterprises do not produce anything efficient. They work only for the "warehouse". And they are a "black hole" for budget money
    1. minipig79
      minipig79 31 July 2020 10: 59 New
      +1
      I would add more. Every year you read that from the budget (this is from the taxes of residents, including mine) so much is subsidized free of charge to MTZ, MAZ, or something else. They publish data on how many products were produced (and how much did it take to rust in the warehouse?), But do not publish the amount of net profit. Serious comrades love to release their offices in the Russian Federation without payment (the type of shipment indicators are in order), only the plant does not receive money from this, but only losses. Do you think that someone Alexander does not suspect about this for 26 years?)
      1. Maxim L
        Maxim L 31 July 2020 11: 27 New
        0
        I agree. I was amazed by the situation with meat factories. When they suddenly found themselves in debt as if in silks. How so, because the products are regularly sold. It turned out that for a whole year trucks loaded with sausages, sausages, etc. were driving to Russia. But the Russian networks didn't pay. At the same time, ours reported that the goods were sold. And when money was already desperately needed and our factories began to demand it, the intermediary firms closed down and were such. Received from Belarusians and food for awesome amounts and disappeared. Cool business. And it is not necessary to say that the authorities of both countries cannot resolve this issue. So it is beneficial for someone. Someone was in the share
        1. karpusha
          karpusha 31 July 2020 22: 29 New
          -1
          The most interesting thing is that many of these companies are run by the children or relatives of the directors of these plants.
          1. Maxim L
            Maxim L 3 August 2020 16: 54 New
            0
            May be. But this was all on Russian territory, so the Russians should have known for sure
  • RVAPatriot
    RVAPatriot 30 July 2020 15: 48 New
    0
    Complete lie, how many people did not ask, everyone is against this ghoul!
  • itis
    itis 31 July 2020 22: 43 New
    0
    Prilepin disputed such a "fool" on the air, you need to shoot.
    bragged about his acquaintances, the treasurer of the battalion.
    then he will bungle the story, they say cheese is such a boron.
    respected (and personally) people, but how can this be given out ???
    shut up !!
    the Russian Foreign Ministry will not achieve anything. will be baked for no reason ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 3 August 2020 09: 40 New
    -1
    Well done Belarusians !!!
    neither Russia nor the West will let themselves be fooled
  • IC
    IC 3 August 2020 13: 24 New
    +1
    To refer to opinion polls in Belarus is not serious.