A portable charger for military equipment created in Russia

Technopolis "Era" has developed a compact charger intended for military equipment and does not require recharging from the generator. Its mass is 1,5 kilograms.

About this news agency TASS said employee of the 4th scientific company Yegor Vinogradov.

The device belongs to electrochemical generators. It can be used to charge military portable radios, navigation devices, laser range finders and other equipment operating in the field from rechargeable batteries. Its power can reach 150 watts.

The charger operates on a hydrogen fuel cell. Since the reaction products are hydrogen and carbon dioxide, the operation of the device does not damage the environment.

And although similar equipment is made abroad, the weight of foreign analogues exceeds 2 kilograms, while the new Russian charger weighs 1,5 kg. The small mass allows the device to be used in a combat situation, when servicemen operate in full gear, which has a significant mass.

But most importantly, a generator is not needed to charge new equipment, which is difficult to use in the field. It only needs a spare hydrogen fuel cell weighing only 450 grams.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

A portable charger for military equipment created in Russia

Is it on the photo?

[snake]

Quote: Mavrikiy

A portable charger for military equipment created in Russia

Is it on the photo?

Bravo, Mauritius! Even the jingoistic patriots have the beginnings of critical thinking!
What will we charge and how soon will it go on sale?

[carstorm 11]

You probably in your joy somehow missed the moment that you should at least read the title normally. what the hell sale?

[snake]

Danke Sean, Dmitry! I forgot that from the creation of "no analogs in the world" of devices in Russia to mass production - an abyss of time.

[BARKAS]

As a rule, devices for our army first appear in online stores and only then in the army.

[lopvlad]

Quote: BARKAS

devices for our army first appear in online stores

You are from Ukraine ?

[fa2998]

Quote: lopvlad

You are from Ukraine ?

Well, why not? I myself watched on TV (1 channel, Russia, etc.) as our ministers and prime ministers "bragged" to the president about new radios, telephones, tablets, etc. - on "Avito" exactly 10 times this Chinese cheaper. Only the labels have changed.

[Kart]

Link?
Or ruin the air as usual?

[fa2998]

Do you watch TV? Particularly interesting news. We also have an E-mobile, a robot on an ATV, an unmanned taxi. You can get billions from the treasury and then bring a black and white tablet made from Chinese parts to the president. What the hell is the link, and with this laptop is only for YOU, and the air is spoiled by those who sawed tens of billions and show a Taiwanese phone.

[Malyuta]

Quote: fa2998

Particularly interesting news. We also have an E-mobile, a robot on an ATV, an unmanned taxi. You can get billions from the treasury and then bring the president a black and white tablet made of Chinese parts.

We have a lot of things that the common mind cannot control!

[lopvlad]

Quote: fa2998

What the hell is a link,

understandably another chatter in the hope that "the gentleman's word".

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: fa2998

We also have an E-mobile

I don’t know what kind of e-mobile you have (and where is “yours”), but I bought the Yo-hatchback back in 2014 after graduation, now I gave it to my wife, and I myself switched to Tesla. So, for 6 years there was not a single serious breakdown.

[Malyuta]

Quote: lopvlad

You are from Ukraine ?

I am very sorry, but it seems that people like you are using some kind of powerful psychotropic drugs that cause severe hallucinations of a certain direction.
Do you dream about a motorcade and a baker-boozer at night?

[Lumumbo]

Quote: carstorm 11

You probably in your joy somehow missed the moment that you should at least read the title normally. what the hell sale?

They have one idea buy and sell .. So no surprise!
They are angry that they did not have time to completely sell out and betray Russia .. They do not give them this, but the owners demand .. What kind of psychology do they have in the 90s? Why create something when it's easier to buy in the west .. Everything speaks for itself.

[Malyuta]

Quote: carstorm 11

You probably in your joy somehow missed the moment that you should at least read the title normally. what the hell sale?

I'm very sorry, but it's half past three in the night in Khabarovsk, but you still can't sleep, apparently you are walking along Lenin Square while there are no protesters? You are still strong man!

[carstorm 11]

I have a baby. I won't sleep normally for many days. You can't turn on the kondeya, but it's very stuffy outside. in general, all the joys of life)

[Malyuta]

Quote: carstorm 11

in general, all the joys of life

I understand you, take care of yourself!

[carstorm 11]

thank. and although I fully appreciated your sarcasm, nevertheless)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mavrikiy

A portable charger for military equipment created in Russia

Is it on the photo?

For especially "smart"

In the technopolis "Era"

[Doctor]

For especially "smart"
In the technopolis "Era"

An interesting thing this "Era". For many years I have been traveling to Anapa, watching the construction of this complex from the foundation. It leaves a double, even triple impression.

[Thrifty]

Generally, hydrogen is fire and explosion hazard, so this fuel cell must have an increased degree of protection, which will inevitably increase its weight.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

Generally, hydrogen is fire and explosion hazard, so this fuel cell must have an increased degree of protection, which will inevitably increase its weight.

If this is a "cellular technology", then the material there is quite explosion-proof, but rather capacious ...
Even in the USSR, they wanted to replace conventional types of fuel with such technologies and managed to advance quite strongly, but with the collapse of the USSR, the work died out, and now apparently they got a new "breath"

[NDR-791]

Maybe something new, tk. with conventional technology, you will have to carry hydrogen in its pure form with you.

[Doctor]

Maybe something new, tk. with conventional technology, you will have to carry hydrogen in its pure form with you.

This is not the problem. This is most likely a so-called proton exchange membrane fuel cell (PEMFC).

Developed back in the 60s by General Electric and used by NASA in the Gemini space program. But since platinum was used as a catalyst to split hydrogen, it was very expensive.

The Japanese are trying to use cesium oxide. If it works out, then the cost will drop 5 times.
Toyota Mirai is an electric vehicle powered by a hydrogen generator.

[Thrifty]

svp67 is an electrochemical reaction, that is, the decomposition products of hydrogen in the form of heat generated are converted into electricity, and the excess is probably dissipated in order to avoid overheating of the device. With an increase in the power of the output current, all hydrogen is completely involved in the reaction, but all the same, then the device has an increased degree of danger for shock, perhaps even a ban on being near other heat sources.

[loki565]

Lithium is also fire hazardous, but now all batteries are made on its basis.

[Vlad T]

Still, you still need a spare container with hydrogen plus a unit, the total weight is not small .. Don't miscalculate a spare charged battery right away. Each piece of equipment with an engine has the ability to create a recharge. For extreme cases (DRG, etc.), a portable hand-held (foot) dynamo ... And, of course, soft amorphous photovoltaic batteries on outerwear, all kinds of surfaces ... Power supply becomes comparable to ammunition supply ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Vlad T

Still, you still need a spare container with hydrogen plus a unit, the total weight is not small .. Don't miscalculate a spare charged battery right away. Each piece of equipment with an engine has the ability to create a recharge. For extreme cases (DRG, etc.), a portable hand-held (foot) dynamo ... And, of course, soft amorphous photovoltaic batteries on outerwear, all kinds of surfaces ... Power supply becomes comparable to ammunition supply ...

In the Soviet army, this happened in the mid-70s, probably: portable dynamos, charging from the radiator of the car or the heat of your own body, and chargers for night vision on a waist belt weighing 200-300 grams. - 4 batteries were charged at once.

[Vlad T]

Today, the capacity, number and other requirements are different, more powerful chargers are needed, no longer from heat, but from a generator and AB, with the output of connectors for charging. Such charging capabilities should be provided for all ICE-equipped units. The battery charging time has become especially important, there are already created batteries. where the time for a full charge is less than an hour, these are the ones that should be used ... Hand dynamo machines only for exceptional cases: emergency sets, DRG ... The topic is broad and very important today, because so far the lag is significant ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Vlad T

Today, the capacity, number and other requirements are different, more powerful chargers are needed, no longer from heat, but from a generator and AB, with the output of connectors for charging. Such charging capabilities should be provided for all ICE-equipped units. The battery charging time has become especially important, there are already created batteries. where the time for a full charge is less than an hour, these are the ones that should be used ... Hand dynamo machines only for exceptional cases: emergency sets, DRG ... The topic is broad and very important today, because so far the lag is significant ...

We did not have a lag then. Well, now, as they were falling apart, so let them catch up You wrote the abbreviation DRG twice - what is it?

[Ren]

Quote: Doliva63

DRG - what is it?

Sabotage and reconnaissance group.
Everyone knows the abbreviation.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ren

Quote: Doliva63

DRG - what is it?

Sabotage and reconnaissance group.
Everyone knows the abbreviation.

Where did it come from? There are no such people in the army, there were not until the early 90s, or rather. A new trend, or what? There were WG - reconnaissance groups in intelligence at all levels. Well, perhaps, from the army reconnaissance company, they could still be called RG SN - special purpose reconnaissance groups, but this is a formality. In reconnaissance, I went from the reconnaissance platoon of the SMR to the intelligence department of the army corps, to which the OBRSPN was attached, never heard any DRG. In my opinion, this is a purely amateurish term. In any case, not an army one.

[svp67]

The charger operates on a hydrogen fuel cell.

Where are these elements charged with hydrogen? What service will this be in now ... We have a lot of good, even excellent developments, perished or severely slowed down due to not understanding who to subordinate him

[NDR-791]

Where are these elements charged with hydrogen?
You can carry a balloon with you. However, it seems to me more and more like the experience from school chemistry. I poured hydrochloric acid into a jar to the level, threw a calibrated zinc tablet and closed the lid. As it worked, I poured it out and re-filled it. A device for warriors, not for everyone. The industry will be able to produce zinc for them.

[dauria]

Its power can reach 150 watts.

For comparison, a cyclist in "tourist" mode - 200 watts mechanical. Hours 8 can pedal. Who remembers these? So to the laser rangefinder "curve starter" attach

[Insurgent]

Quote: dauria

Who remembers those?

Flashlight "Bug" (by its characteristic sound)

Both light and hand expander

[dauria]

Both light and hand expander

Add a lithium battery, a charging controller, change the light bulb to an LED - and voila. A cycle of 1 to 100 can be kicked up. He buzzed for a minute - an hour with light.

[Ka-52]

Add a lithium battery, a charging controller, change the light bulb to an LED - and voila. A cycle of 1 to 100 can be kicked up. He buzzed for a minute - an hour with light.

patent technology (or rather a product) rather, before it is stolen

[dauria]

patent technology (or rather a product) rather

Laugh, damn it. We suffered in due time with the level at the construction site, we leveled the foundation. It was a long time ago. One with a stick, the other waves his hands. I neigh, I say, attach the laser pointer with plasticine and twist. The foreman comes up in a couple of days - "You know, they sell such levels with a laser"
So for sure these things are already on sale.

[Ka-52]

The foreman comes up in a couple of days - "You know, they sell such levels with a laser"

That was a long time ago...

the funniest thing is that they still walk with sticks, I saw myself not long ago on my site when I was building a fence

[Kart]

So it's the authorities' fault.
If not for her, no one would need to build any fences.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Carte

So it's the authorities' fault.
If not for her, no one would need to build any fences.

Behold at the root, however!

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Ka-52

still walk with sticks

This is most likely a pole with a reflector. Like this:

Not?

[gridasov]

In the army, as in any field conditions, DC transformers are needed. It is transformers that use magnetism.

[Insurgent]

Quote: gridasov

In the army, as in any field conditions, DC transformers are needed. It is transformers that use magnetism.

You mean schemas pulse conversion ?

[gridasov]

Not! I'm talking about the transformation of variable magnetic flux, which is key. Without a doubt, the control of the pulse, and most importantly its interruption rate and, in general, the formation of pulsation algorithms, is of great importance. However, I am talking about a new generator and a method of transformation of the so-called direct current. It is worth clarifying here that not everyone understands in what planes the DC oscillatory modulation occurs. But it is the direct current that can be modeled as impulsively unidirectional in the vector.

[Insurgent]

Quote: gridasov

Not! I'm talking about the transformation of variable magnetic flux, which is key. Without a doubt, the control of the pulse, and most importantly its interruption rate and, in general, the formation of pulsation algorithms, is of great importance. However, I am talking about a new generator and a method of transformation of the so-called direct current. It is worth clarifying here that not everyone understands in what planes the DC oscillatory modulation occurs. But it is the direct current that can be modeled as impulsively unidirectional in the vector.

Forgive me, but my knowledge in physics, electrical engineering, and radio electronics "whispers" to me that what you have written is nonsense ...

[gridasov]

But this is your knowledge! You see, but solenoid coils have a very significant dependence on parasitic currents, which have a known nature and their parameters. But if you level them and use turnless coils, then you can form a very powerful spin or rotating magnetic flux. And now it can be used through rolling moments to transform the current in a linear vector. So who is your doctor? But then you can generally get away from the emphasis on batteries and use them only as initiators of the process. Because on the same shaft and on different rotor planes, both the generator and the engine can be placed simultaneously as a functional part.

[Kart]

The schedule for taking pills must be observed.
Then everything will work out.

[gridasov]

When talking with your opponents, you do not come across rudeness. Therefore, I think other sites are more comfortable. And I think that soon developments of a new level will find their place. Obviously not in your country.

[Operator]

A spare fuel cell is charged with 100% ethyl alcohol - an indispensable thing in the army

[Insurgent]

Quote: Operator

The spare fuel cell is charged with 100% ethyl alcohol

Alcohol with such an "octane number" does not exist in nature

[Operator]

We are talking about the concentration of alcohol, obviously.

PS The octane number of ethyl alcohol by the motor method is 113.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Operator

We are talking about the concentration of alcohol, obviously.

"At least on the forehead, at least on the forehead"
Obtain (at a significant cost, making such a product very expensive),approximate to 100% percent concentration of ethyl alcohol - you can.
But only close to 100% concentration, because anyway water inevitably tends to occupy some mass fraction. What actually is another problem of preserving such a substance - its hygroscopicity is high, like a drunk with a hangover

[Ka-52]

But only close to 100% concentration, because anyway water inevitably tends to occupy some mass fraction.

"dehydrated" alcohol is "dry" alcohol (just kidding)

[Insurgent]

Quote: Ka-52

"dehydrated" alcohol is "dry" alcohol (just kidding)

Clear But the fact that technical urotropine (household "dry alcohol") is a derivative raw material for the production of explosives "Hexogen", this is no longer a joke.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: Ka-52

"dehydrated" alcohol is "dry" alcohol (just kidding)

Clear But the fact that technical urotropine (household "dry alcohol") is a derivative raw material for the production of explosives "Hexogen", this is no longer a joke.

Hopefully not in a domestic environment

[Operator]

"Waterproof fluoroplastic container - no, not heard"

[Kart]

Quote: Operator

PS The octane number of ethyl alcohol by the motor method is 113.

According to the opposition method - 146.
They also boil the water in their heads at this temperature.

[Ilshat]

There are some on methyl, they are sold - https://russian.alibaba.com/product-detail/200w-direct-methanol-fuel-cell-dmfc-fuel-power-generator-for-military-use-62047116653.html

Military execution.

[Tagan]

Quote: serpent

Bravo, Mauritius! Even the jingoistic patriots have the beginnings of critical thinking!

It's better than being criticized

[Dikson]

.. And what is characteristic, except for the weight of the device, there is nothing .. And what is the capacity of this battery, how many minutes of operation does it last?

[iouris]

Do not find fault, otherwise they will be banned.

[Kart]

On the contrary.
Water whatever your hands can reach. The main thing is that it would be Russian.
And then there will be cardboard stars.

[iouris]

What does "Russian" have to do with it? People with technical expertise discuss how the alleged information is presented.

[prior]

One-piece Technopolis - a one-piece battery developed.
This is a breakthrough. I'll go pour it for success .....

[Kart]

Who what.
Someone creates batteries, someone thumps.

[fa2998]

Quote: serpent

What will we charge and how soon will it go on sale?

We will not charge anything. Or we will cut the money for development, and the obtained will be classified. And the military will be given units at an "abalden" price.
And what difference does it make to a Russian-foreign serial two kege than our 1,5 kg "lacking analogs" which does not exist.

[Kart]

It depends on what kind of Russian.
If someone who rides on the Internet "putinuhodi", then yes, such a foreigner is better.
And ours will suit a decent and mentally normal one.

[fa2998]

Quote: serpent

devices in Russia before serial production is a waste of time.

Russian and Soviet scientists did a lot of advanced things. There were leaders: radio, light bulbs, television, computers and many others. Of course, we are proud, but we run to shops for imported goods.

[evgen1221]

Or maybe start from the other end? Selling such devices to the population, and with the money raised, you can stamp them into the army.

[Lumumbo]

The article here on the site was interesting to read guys
https://topwar.ru/124236-minoborony-zakazalo-mobilnye-atomnye-reaktory-dlya-arktiki.html
But back in the days of the USSR, such "batteries" were used by the military, etc. especially in the far north ..

So we have a huge experience in using all kinds of power plants .. Now the newest TOKOMAK is being built, there is generally clean energy ..
It's only the beginning

[Doliva63]

Quote: Lumumbo

The article here on the site was interesting to read guys
https://topwar.ru/124236-minoborony-zakazalo-mobilnye-atomnye-reaktory-dlya-arktiki.html
But back in the days of the USSR, such "batteries" were used by the military, etc. especially in the far north ..

So we have a huge experience in using all kinds of power plants .. Now the newest TOKOMAK is being built, there is generally clean energy ..
It's only the beginning

There was a time, in the Soviet Union no one could be surprised by RTGs, but in the army I have never seen them.

[Russian2020]

Well done, keep it up soon, we'll do a nuclear battery

[Pandiurin]

"... the charger operates on a hydrogen fuel cell. Since the reaction products are hydrogen and carbon dioxide ..."

If the source is:

- hydrogen, then the product of the reaction is steam, water

- hydrocarbon fuel (alcohol-containing solution), the reaction products are carbon dioxide, and water (steam)

Most likely the second option is electricity due to the decomposition of alcohol.
Much safer than hydrogen and the proven technology with alcohol cartridges, I have thrown it out, put a new one or refilled it from a canister.

The hydrogen cartridge is expensive, you have to carry the used ones with you, difficulties with recharging, unsafe.

[Dikson]

It's even easier to carry a field phone or similar dynamo with you .. - no cartridges are needed at all ..

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Dikson

It's even easier to carry a field phone or similar dynamo with you .. - no cartridges are needed at all ..

If the Dynamo car then it would be clear where the carbon dioxide would come from, which was written about in the article. How it is obtained from hydrogen is a secret for me ...