Gorbachev's reforms, which today they prefer not to remember

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Gorbachev's reforms, which today they prefer not to remember

The era of perestroika in the late USSR is viewed by many in a rather negative way. Mechanisms were launched that accelerated the collapse of the Soviet state. But it is not customary to talk about some of Gorbachev's reforms today, although they played a huge role in the life of our country.

The economic policy of the Soviet Union during the reign of Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, without any "buts", was a failure. In Gorbachev's speeches, the plans to reorganize the Soviet economy really sounded nice, but in practice it turned out that Mikhail Sergeevich and his entourage simply destroyed the entire existing system of management of the Soviet economy. But in addition to economic reforms, Gorbachev carried out a number of important political and social reforms. Their importance for the late USSR and modern Russia is difficult to overestimate.



During the years of perestroika, the word "glasnost" was very often used. In fact, it was then that the Soviet state made a huge leap towards pluralism of opinions, towards freedom of speech. This policy gave rise to the emergence of many political circles, the publication of previously unpublished works of Russian and foreign thinkers, writers, scientists and political figures. For religious organizations, the policy of openness and freedom of speech was of decisive importance, since people were able to freely, without previous problems and restrictions, profess their faith, visit places of worship, and receive religious education.

The policy of openness led to the next important step - the abolition of the one-party system. In the Soviet Union, political parties and movements emerged that brought together representatives of various directions of political thought - from monarchists to anarchists. It was then, during the perestroika period, that the foundations of the modern Russian multiparty system were laid.

The policy of glasnost was also of great importance for the cultural life of the country: the works of many writers appeared in the public domain, the state stopped hindering musicians and artists in their creative activities, rock bands were able to freely conduct their concerts. Nowadays, few people remember that it was almost impossible to find the works of many writers in the Soviet Union, except in samizdat, and for the passion for rock culture one could face very big problems.


Moscow International Peace Festival on August 12-13, 1989 at the Luzhniki Stadium

The gradual lifting of the “iron curtain” was of decisive importance for many spheres of the life of Soviet society. Firstly, it became easier to leave the Soviet Union, people got the opportunity to visit other countries not for business or official purposes. Secondly, the removal of the “iron curtain” facilitated the further development of cultural ties with abroad. Cultural figures and contemporary music groups from other states began to come to the Soviet Union, foreign films appeared in the film distribution, which Soviet citizens watched with pleasure.

All these reforms, of course, had a positive impact on the Soviet country. But, unfortunately, their significance was canceled out by Gorbachev's failed foreign policy and his gross mistakes in economic policy. The catastrophic consequences of Gorbachev's reforms are still being sorted out in Russia and many other post-Soviet countries. Armed conflicts, poverty, destruction of industry and agriculture, dying out villages - all this is a direct consequence of those short-sighted reforms, with the help of which Gorbachev's entourage allegedly wanted to improve the economy of the Soviet state.
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  1. +34
    29 July 2020 10: 45
    Honestly, even if there was something positive in the actions of this Mr. ... anyway "THANKS" I WILL NOT TELL him ...
    1. +29
      29 July 2020 10: 46
      it is not customary to talk about some of Gorbachev's reforms today, although they played a huge role in the life of our country


      Thus, the author wants to "sweeten" the inevitable departure (after all, he lingered too long in this world) to Hell, Humpbacked Judas?
      1. +42
        29 July 2020 11: 42
        Yeah. I remember how "glasnost" instantly turned into a bucket of slops that had been poured onto I.V. Stalin and the Second World War, which, according to historians-perestroika, turned out to be an endless chain of erroneous and even criminal actions of the country's military and political leadership. The press ate their brains with the Molotov-Ribentropp pact, the continuous Solzhenitsyn with his Bonner, the annoying Sakharov, the "fluffy" Sobchak. The phrase "Stalinist repressions" - for breakfast, lunch and dinner .... All these were pieces of the puzzle, which, taking shape, formed the collective guilt of the Russian people as the most consistent carrier of communist ideology - guilt before the peoples of the union republics, before the deported peoples, before the peoples of the countries of the economic community, but you never know before anyone. Whoever tells you "You are to blame!", Before that you are to blame. It was not said directly, but if you are Russian, and even, God forbid, party member, you are to blame a priori before the whole world. And what is most interesting, the press, gradually processing the consciousness of people, was incredibly cheap, accessible to everyone, a huge number of publications appeared that stubbornly, cunningly, sophisticatedly pursued a line aimed at destroying the values ​​that had just been common to all the peoples of the USSR. This was Gorbachev's "glasnost". Many of our foreign policy problems come from it.
        1. +9
          29 July 2020 12: 07
          Quote: depressant
          continuous Solzhenitsyn with his Bonner,


          Bonner, in general, "Sakharovskaya" ... hi love
          1. +6
            29 July 2020 12: 10
            Did I write that? )) It's a pity, I can't fix it anymore))) Thank you, colleague, for correcting hi love
            Distracted me during the comment)))
          2. 0
            2 August 2020 18: 53
            Yes? Who cares?
          3. 0
            3 August 2020 19: 36
            Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
        2. +30
          29 July 2020 12: 13
          Gorbachev, in fact, fulfilled Trotsky's forecast from the work "Revolution Betrayed" almost literally, as if he was following a guideline. The Gorbachev-Yakovlev models, the introduction of bourgeois cooperatives, along with the undermining of the system of scientific centralized planning, prepared the prerequisites for the disintegration and collapse of the integral national economy. The hammering into the heads of millions of the opinion that public property was "nobody's" and its allegedly ineffectiveness was combined with the deliberate organization of a shortage of household goods, which until recently were in abundance. Thus, these Trotskyists killed two birds with one stone - they struck a blow at the domestic production of consumer goods and created public opinion in favor of surrendering the domestic market to Western exploiters.
          In an interview with Izvestia on 17.06.98/XNUMX/XNUMX, the traitor Yakovlev said: "There are different ways, for example, dissidence. But it is futile. We had to act from within. We had the only way - to undermine the totalitarian regime from within with the discipline of a totalitarian party. We did our job." ... And they did their dirty work, destroyed the USSR and plunged the people into capitalist chaos.
    2. +3
      29 July 2020 11: 47
      What we see now is the implementation of Hegel's famous expression in a quote from Karl Marx:
      "History repeats itself twice: the first time as a tragedy, the second as a farce"

      Now kefir is liquid and we are watching a farce. It is a pity that we live in it.
      1. +8
        29 July 2020 14: 33
        The author of the article should nevertheless take a more detailed and thorough approach to writing such panegyrics about Gorbachev and those like him, and so that he (the Author) finally understands why about glasnost, such vulgarity as the "iron curtain" (invented by the way not in the USSR) and the multi-party system that has opened up, most of the inhabitants of the USSR will never say thank you to Gorbachev and his hangers-on, I will explain for the too naive - WHEN YOUR HOUSE IS DOWN, BREAKING AND BURNING, EVERYTHING IS DESTROYED SO CLOSE AND DEAR WAS TO YOU WHEN YOU WAS TAKEN PLACE SAYING "EVERYTHING THAT COULD DO GOOD FOR YOU", NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT THANKS FOR SUCH NORMAL PEOPLE, BECAUSE HATS AND SHORTS WILL NOT BE SATISFIED.
        What is glasnost, free travel abroad in a crumbling country and a multi-party system in a country like this are just drugs that have intoxicated the population of the country, stealing and ruining it on the sly.
        In order not to go back 35 years to the USSR, it is enough to look at what is happening now in Ukraine - everything is the same, only adjusted for years.
    3. w70
      0
      6 August 2020 21: 44
      How predictable you are
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  3. +8
    29 July 2020 10: 47
    Listen, today the authors broke through to VO. The "young man" praises Putin there; here the author stood up for Gorby. Apparently on the way there are opuses about Khrushch and Nicholas the Bloody.
    1. -2
      29 July 2020 10: 52
      Everyone has their own opinion. why not listen to different sides? argue. it's always good.
    2. +1
      29 July 2020 10: 54
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Listen, today the authors burst out straight

      Yesterday we overdid it a little, went too far, stepped over the red line.
      We decided to sweeten it.
      The article itself is strange, by the way, publicity is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the Union.
      1. +14
        29 July 2020 11: 03
        Quote: bober1982
        by the way, glasnost is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the Union

        Yes, it was not publicity, but - "For the bazaar NOTI answer"
        1. +2
          29 July 2020 11: 19
          Quote: Insurgent
          Yes, it was not publicity, but - "I do not answer for the bazaar"


          And these naive people, who drowned for the Drunkard, did not know what a "fun" life awaits them in the next 10 years.
          And only a few adequate people already then understood that the polar northern animal was already waving with all its limbs to this country and people.
          1. -15
            29 July 2020 13: 36
            EBN can be criticized as much as you want, but the fact that he put Vladimir Vladimirovich compensates for many of his shortcomings (to put it mildly).
            So, it's good that this is how it ended up in the end. When someone from Zhirik or ZU came to power, God knows what would have happened. And none of them, as life has shown.
            1. +12
              29 July 2020 15: 22
              Quote: bulava
              EBN can be criticized as much as you want, but the fact that he put Vladimir Vladimirovich compensates for many of his shortcomings (to put it mildly).

              One field of berries, only one does not drink. Putin was lucky with oil prices, but now his luck is over.
              1. -9
                29 July 2020 15: 53
                Yes, we have already heard this on the air of CNN, BBC and other Echo of Moscow. You can continue to think so, but we will move on and build a great Power.
            2. +5
              30 July 2020 06: 25
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              1. -1
                30 July 2020 09: 43
                Yes, I have my own and firm position. I am not a brat, like some who are shaken in different directions. I don't like those like that. Since, as history has shown, in the war, such deserters and traitors turn out.
                1. +2
                  30 July 2020 18: 31
                  In a war, corpses are more often obtained from people, such are the things.
                  But Boriska is drunk on anything and not when he is not washed off.
                  What about all the memory at the mention of the alcoholic from Boris Godunov, Pushkin's works comes -Borisk to the kingdom !!!
                  Lousy rulers from Borisok in our history.
        2. +5
          29 July 2020 14: 51
          Petka asks Vasily Ivanovich:
          - Vasily Ivanovich, what is glasnost?
          - And this, Petka, when you can tell everyone everything that you know about me and think, and nothing will come to you for it - no horse, no saddle, no vacation.
    3. +16
      29 July 2020 11: 13
      Listen, today the authors broke through to VO. The "young man" praises Putin there; here the author stood up for Gorby. Apparently on the way there are opuses about Khrushch and Nicholas the Bloody.

      Yeah, they scared the campaign of the Communist revenge.
      Well, what about the work of the classics in the open access, a huge layer of literature, art, cinema of the Soviet period too.

      Victories and space flights are also known and achieved without PMCs and billionaires, and anyone can see Lenin in the mausoleum, say that they did not come up with it.

      Open the PSS and read, there are answers to all questions. This is the real opposition, not the bulk.
    4. +5
      29 July 2020 12: 24
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Apparently on the way there are opuses about Khrushch and Nicholas the Bloody.

      Exactly. Commenting on the article of "Young Man", one of the members of the forum has already called for growing corn and feeding her chickens. So I, too, somehow immediately remembered Khrushch, and he also called EBNa a generally good person. Somehow I became alarmed, but let's hope it's just a coincidence.
    5. +6
      29 July 2020 12: 39
      The "young man" praises Putin there; here the author stood up for Gorby.
      ... It was the winds of change that blew ... laughing
      1. +11
        29 July 2020 15: 01
        The winds of change blew from the Khabarovsk Territory. Well, just imagine, on the one side of the river - neither wobbly nor shaky developing (or not-) Khabarovsk, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, others, and on the other - North China, rapidly sprouting with skyscrapers, which in Central China itself is considered backward province. There is visual material for comparison - there are reflections, conclusions, and on their basis - claims to the local authorities. The local moved at the very least, going beyond the acceptable rating, and was swept away by the jealous central one. And then the east wind flew in transit in a westerly direction, to Moscow. If you don't want to, you will become a forecaster. Putin ought to strain himself and study how internal political winds originate, where they can come from and what kind of storm he will have to reap depending on what he sowed.
        1. +7
          29 July 2020 15: 25
          Putin ought to strain himself and study how internal political winds originate, where they can come from and what kind of storm he will have to reap depending on what he sowed.

          For 20 years, it has become bronzed.
      2. +6
        29 July 2020 15: 23
        Quote: parusnik
        The "young man" praises Putin there; here the author stood up for Gorby.
        ... It was the winds of change that blew ... laughing

        Do you want to say the new Constitution has begun to influence the minds and hearts of citizens? laughing
  4. +5
    29 July 2020 10: 50
    It was then, during the perestroika period, that the foundations of the modern Russian multiparty system were laid.

    The foundation may have been laid, but somehow it didn't work out with a multiparty system. In fact, the ruling party was left alone. Only if earlier the party formed the power for itself, now the government is forming the party for itself.
    And the multi-party system is imitated by the party of clowns in power, the party of eternal opposition, trying by any means not to get this power (even if the president rules without leaving a coma), and the marginalized opposition democrats from the 90s, who cannot even agree on a single candidate ...
  5. +9
    29 July 2020 10: 51
    That publicity did not bring any positive significance. She was simply used to smear everything Soviet.
    1. -26
      29 July 2020 11: 01
      So after all, there was something to smear. The scoop was flawed above the roof. Publicity was needed.
      1. +5
        29 July 2020 11: 36
        But now we live ideally.
        1. -18
          29 July 2020 12: 26
          There is no ideal society. But there are fewer drawbacks now. Yes, life is more difficult. But much more interesting.
          1. +9
            29 July 2020 15: 26
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            There is no ideal society. But there are fewer drawbacks now. Yes, life is more difficult. But much more interesting.

            Now there is only one drawback - there are no advantages.
            1. 0
              2 August 2020 17: 26
              How old are you to even mention the Truth in a nickname?
      2. +6
        29 July 2020 12: 42
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        So after all, there was something to smear. The scoop was flawed above the roof. Publicity was needed.

        I agree with you, Andrey. There were enough shortcomings, but with the advent of "glasnost" the number of these shortcomings began to grow, first in arithmetic, and then exponentially, and eventually a collapse occurred. Whether the glasnost proper led to this, I don’t presume to assert, but one of the factors of the collapse was definitely, along with mediocre leadership, artificially created deficit, admiration for the West, destruction of the army, etc. Lyudmila Yakovlevna correctly wrote above that this glasnost has turned into slander, slop down and distortion of the country's history. The sprouts of "film masterpieces" that the Ministry of Culture feeds us now abundantly sprouted at that time, and now it is difficult (if not impossible) to uproot them, but there is nothing to plant instead.
        1. +6
          29 July 2020 21: 40
          Time goes by, colleagues, and with its passing it becomes clearer and clearer that the USSR was being felled deliberately, coldly, calculatedly and, I would say, skillfully. Long before the collapse of the country, a large team of scientists and engineers created a program for the computerization of the USSR, which I had heard about due to the nature of my activity, one that would allow the entire system of administrative structures from Kaliningrad to Anadyr to be linked together into a single network. economic and political. This would make it possible to instantly identify bottlenecks and quickly resolve emerging issues. Moreover, the ministries and departments were already interconnected not only by the Council of Ministers, but also by such a powerful structure as the State Planning Committee. And what? The program has been destroyed. The very program that would make it possible to put everything under strict control and make the country a rapid economic breakthrough, thereby eliminating all inclinations towards its collapse. And the only reason for its destruction that comes to mind is that the program obviously contradicted the plans for the destruction of the USSR - that is, the totality of criminal acts already committed by the ministries with the blessing of such Politburo members as Yakovlev. Do you think the illegal withdrawal of capital abroad is the trouble of our time? No, he was - through assistance to the socialist camp, Asian and African countries, through trade with the West, and they steal so that it remains to destroy everything in order to hide from the population - you never know what! Remember, the notorious "party gold" is the final point in the devastation of the state treasury ...
          A program to create a computer network connecting the country into a single whole would not only suppress the treacherous actions of the ruling elite, but would also reveal the kraduns. So they treated the unsuspecting population with publicity, rushed to bring down the country in order to evade responsibility. Ruined. They got away from responsibility. We got our capital from foreign zagashniki. Flourish. We are still encouraged to believe that we ourselves wanted it. The publicity continues.
          1. +1
            30 July 2020 09: 35
            In the 70s, funds began to appear that the top would like to hide. Use for yourself. And then there was also an article from a foreign country that Glushkov wanted to replace the Politburo with a computer. They knew which rope to pull.
      3. +7
        30 July 2020 06: 38
        Who may be a scoop, but for me it was a great country of the USSR!
        The country of my youth, the country that gave me education, the country in whose army I served.
        After she was killed, torn apart and pulled apart by the foremen of perestroika.
        And to call it a scoop is deliberately insulting people who grew up in the USSR.
        1. +1
          30 July 2020 09: 44
          Quote: saigon
          Who may be a scoop, but for me it was a great country of the USSR!
          The country of my youth, the country that gave me education, the country in whose army I served.
          After she was killed, torn apart and pulled apart by the foremen of perestroika.
          And to call it a scoop is deliberately insulting people who grew up in the USSR.

          Anyone who uses such a derogatory word wants to show that the people of that time are better in all respects. It would be nice to ask this ---- why are you better? Facts!
          It has been 30 years since then. That country cannot answer already. Why the "struggle" continues with her.
          I recall the words that Khrushchev not only declared war on the dead, but also lost it.
          So after Khrushchev there were still more fighters
        2. +4
          30 July 2020 09: 46
          If I were in the place of the moderators, I would have banned the word scoop and, in general, muddying the USSR without argumentation. And it turns out ugly, there is a red star on the site on top, a St. George ribbon, and the comments are full of incomprehensible anti-Soviet Banderlogists.
          1. 0
            2 August 2020 15: 27
            I agree with you 100%, otherwise I was banned because I besieged one "smart guy", it may not be entirely politically correct, because he has "scoops" in his comments at every step, undeveloped, primitive, and so like that.
            1. 0
              2 August 2020 20: 26
              Well, these are sick people, you cannot name it otherwise. It's like calling your parents "felt boots" or "bast shoes"
  6. +2
    29 July 2020 10: 54
    If you face Europe, then, it turns out, to Russia ... backwards.
  7. +4
    29 July 2020 10: 55
    like the medal has an obverse and a reverse. but collectors claim that the edge and the eyelet of the fastening are still of great importance.
    there is no forgiveness to the labeled one ... you can live without publicity, but I remember the queues for bread and sausage for 2-3 hours.
  8. +11
    29 July 2020 10: 56
    Gorbachev's reforms, or rather the "reform of the State Department," boiled down to the collapse of the country and the brainwashing of the population.
    Here they are "Gorbachev's reforms"

  9. +15
    29 July 2020 11: 01
    There was rock in the USSR, there were also authors and performers. And musicians before Gorbachev calmly went there, came from there. Films, albeit rezanynnye (without naked), were also at the box office. Who told you that the Iron Curtain was exactly as you described it. Glasnost was launched in order to pull anti-Sovietism onto the political stage, the personnel filter of the CPSU was eliminated in order to introduce anti-communist people into politics. It was a kind of political special operation and nothing else. In the GDR there was a bipartisan system, for example, but it did not ruin the country, and beyond the fence (you can catch it) there is generally another life, but it is in itself.
    1. +1
      29 July 2020 12: 57
      In the GDR, there was the ruling party of the SED, and its four junior partners, who shared power with it and recognized its leading role - the Liberal Democratic Party, the Christian Democratic Union, the National Democratic Party, and the Peasant Party. The SED had more than 2 million members, and the four allied parties put together about half a million. All five parties in the elections nominated a single list of candidates under the auspices of the National Front of the GDR, in which, again, the leading positions were occupied by the SED. Formally, the SED faction comprised less than half of the members of the People's Chamber. But the trick was that the members of the SED were not only a member of their party faction, but also dominated the trade union and youth factions, as well as the Kulturbund faction. Therefore, in aggregate, the members of the SED were more than half of the number of deputies of the People's Chamber. The SED was guaranteed to be assigned the posts of Chairman of the State Council, Chairman of the Council of Ministers, Chairman of the National Defense Council, most of the deputy chairmen of the Council of Ministers and ministers, including always the ministers of defense and state security, and a number of others. And most of the Deputy Chairmen of the State Council, several deputy chairmen of the Presidential Council, the Chairman of the Supreme Court, several ministers, including the always minister of justice, have always been someone from among the representatives of allied parties. Moreover, there was a certain ranking between the allied parties. The CDU enjoyed the greatest influence, and the peasant party the least. By the way, a similar system existed in the PPR, where the PUWP's partners were the United Peasants' Party, with which the PUWP in many cases reckoned, and the Democratic Party; in Czechoslovakia, where the CPC partners were two Czech (although called Czechoslovakian) and two Slovak parties - the Czechoslovak People's Party, the Czechoslovak Socialist Party, the Slovak Freedom Party and the Slovak Renaissance Party. True, in Czechoslovakia, the allied parties had less influence than the GDR and Poland. Well, in Bulgaria, the BCP's junior partner was the Bulgarian Agricultural People's Union. A similar system still exists in the PRC, where
      there are eight small democratic parties.
  10. +12
    29 July 2020 11: 09
    Tagged declares that he brought freedom and democracy to the country, but he sincerely does not understand why the Russian Federation is ready to bury him alive.
    He sold the country ... at least getting 100 thousand American raccoons is a proven fact. He has more Western medals than domestic ones. At the same time, he received the Nobel for peace unexpectedly. I'm wondering, what did he do for a peaceful life, what was he given a peace prize? After the collapse of the USSR, many times more people died around the world and in the Russian Federation in particular than in WWII. Is this the world?
    Two people who were on the very edge of ruining the great country were Yeltsin and Gorbachev. EBN is already rotting in the grave, and I really hope that the devils fried it in a frying pan. And Marked Judas is still carried by the earth. There will be no forgiveness for him, like the Drunkard.
    And no Yeltsin center, which was built by the current government, will not smear the betrayal created by the Drunkard and the Tagged One.
    By the way ... no one thought about the fact that today there are people in the government (including the main one) who GIVEN OWN TO THAT COUNTRY, the USSR ?! And today they are building Yeltsin centers and calling the enemies partners. Here's a catch.
    1. +13
      29 July 2020 11: 23
      Quote: NEXUS
      He has more Western medals than domestic ones.

      Especially this medal. Traitor's Medal.center][/ Center]
      Especially this medal. Traitor's Medal.
      1. +16
        29 July 2020 11: 40
        If you have not abandoned her, then there is a traitor.
  11. +9
    29 July 2020 11: 17
    There is even nothing to say, some lousy words climb ...
    In the post-perestroika period, several times more people died from the consequences of reforms than in V.O. war.
    What justification do you need to come up with and how to evaluate his performance?
    1. +7
      29 July 2020 11: 21
      Quote: Amur
      What justification do you need to come up with and how to evaluate his performance?

      Nobel Peace Prize, Best Fritz of the USSR ... what else is needed for complete happiness?
      1. +2
        29 July 2020 14: 07
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Amur
        What justification do you need to come up with and how to evaluate his performance?

        Nobel Peace Prize, Best Fritz of the USSR ... what else is needed for complete happiness?

        Lyudyna is rotten.
    2. +2
      29 July 2020 16: 20
      Quote: Amur
      There is even nothing to say, some lousy words climb ...
      In the post-perestroika period, several times more people died from the consequences of reforms than in V.O. war ...
      And all this has a precise definition ---liberal repression.
      And this article is on the net, the author is Academician Gundarov
  12. +7
    29 July 2020 11: 18
    Quote: "All of the above reforms certainly had a positive impact on the Soviet country." End of quote.
    The patient felt better: he stopped breathing.
  13. +3
    29 July 2020 11: 28
    All 35 years, starting with the anti-Soviet Perestroika, all the reforms of the enemies of the communists are only to the detriment of the country and the people, and to the benefit and enrichment of the enemies of the communists at the expense of the country and the people.
  14. +5
    29 July 2020 11: 30
    Some kind of oil .... And the result ...?
    1. +1
      29 July 2020 12: 09
      Usyo is wonderful (in Bavaria).
  15. +3
    29 July 2020 11: 34
    Everything that was positive in the USSR in those years happened in spite of, and not thanks to, the policy pursued by the top of the CPSU.
    1. 0
      29 July 2020 14: 36
      Quote: 1536
      in the USSR, happened in spite of, and not thanks to that policy

      Speaker: "Despite the successes in the implementation of the historical decisions of the XX ... Congress of the CPSU, the living standard of the population is growing"
      Question from the presidium: "Have you tried the dust?"
  16. +6
    29 July 2020 11: 35
    This policy gave rise to the emergence of many political circles, the publication of previously unpublished works of Russian and foreign thinkers, writers, scientists and political figures.
    .... Books, magazines of the publishing house "Posev", NTS began to be distributed freely ....
    1. +4
      29 July 2020 16: 15
      Alex, good afternoon! hi it seems that during the time of Andropov, Solzhenitsin was extracted.? feel printed memoirs negative Khrushchev? At the same time, the so-called waste Merezhkovsky appeared. How could they start publishing the one who called for the fascists? Probably, Merezhkovskiy was not the only one of his kind? Whom they began to print. Then?
      Discovered this Merezhkovsky once and deleted am
      1. +3
        29 July 2020 20: 34
        Good evening, there was no light ... smile So I say from all scum in this free time they began to mold idols ... the process continues ... Thanks MSG ...
        1. +1
          29 July 2020 20: 58
          Quote: parusnik
          Good evening, there was no light ... smile So I say from all scum in this free time they began to mold idols ... the process continues ... Thanks MSG ...

          Yes, the fact is that, as in the song, they sculpt from what happened ..... But at the same time, a new round of grudging and slandering real events that should be proud of.
          And to remember Andropov There are suggestions that it was he who ruled for Brezhnev in recent years. After all, student unrest around the world did not agitate in the left channel. They did not support the socialists in Portugal, in the 70s, they did not find a common language with the European communists, but a lot ...
          It was Ilya Polonsky who had articles on this topic ...
          If Stalin created a socialist system, strengthened the opposition to world capitalism, then after his death there was no continuation ..... ((senior ordered? negative ))
          Well, yes, there were Cuba and some Asian countries, but, for some reason, the really strong supporters were ignored. ???
  17. +7
    29 July 2020 12: 07
    None of the above has done any good. It was of great importance for the Soviet country, of course - it destroyed it. One good thing is that soon Mr. Gorbachev will die. And THERE are waiting for him millions of those whom he killed, who died because of him, and most of them a very fierce death ...
  18. 0
    29 July 2020 12: 16
    Glasnost and pluralism also brought one big problem - a double interpretation of the same fact with the adoption of respectively 2 opposite conclusions. Black = white + some shades of gray and all conclusions are correct.
  19. 0
    29 July 2020 12: 26
    Quote: 7,62x54
    Listen, today the authors broke through to VO. The "young man" praises Putin there; here the author stood up for Gorby. Apparently on the way there are opuses about Khrushch and Nicholas the Bloody.

    To be honest, the author quite correctly covered the period of Gorbachev's rule. And he clearly and unambiguously said that the economic management system had failed.
    But he is also right when speaking of the "political" component. For many who did not live then, it is difficult to believe that this was positive in Gorbachev's rule.

    At that time a poem was published in the newspaper Pravda on the first page. An unprecedented thing that in general on the first page, and the poem itself said a lot
    And the poem was like this

    "It's easy to be bold if allowed
    But how did we live at another time
    Applauded nonsense more than once
    And it united us so much.

    Shouted that we are going forward
    But they thought quite the opposite

    And chaos grew in the state
    The capital was suffocating from visitors
    They all wanted sausage and butter
    So that hope does not fade away completely "

    Further, to be honest - I don't remember, 35 years have passed
    Now many find it difficult to even imagine how much of a role glasnost played in its time. The sometimes stupid censorship of technical media was canceled, it became possible to have books by the author, for which in the early 80s one could get, if not a deadline, then significant troubles. So the author is right when he speaks of "glasnost" as the only positive thing during the Gorbachev era. Many people sometimes cannot even imagine the difference between the congresses of the CPSU and the congresses of people's deputies during the reign of Gorby.
    In the first case, it was a hassle on all channels and no one listened to these congresses (the plus was that the newspapers were not published on 4 pages, as usual, but sometimes on 8 or 12 - there was something to use). And the congresses of deputies - sometimes came from work in a small group and someone had a small receiver. Caught every word.
    So here is the usual statement of fact, dear 7,62x54... It is possible that there may be a positive article about Khrushchev. His reign, too, cannot be unambiguously considered only negative. There were also pluses ...

    Quote: bober1982
    The article itself is strange, by the way, publicity is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the Union.

    Not publicity, but a complete mess in management. When someone exposed by the authorities was not responsible for their actions. Roughly speaking, "I was not responsible for the market." And publicity was an outlet in the world that we had before that time
  20. +6
    29 July 2020 12: 53
    All these reforms, of course, had a positive impact on the Soviet country.


    Yes, there were no reforms. In technical terms, the filtration system was dismantled, and a variety of guano flooded from all the cracks.
  21. +3
    29 July 2020 13: 06
    Well, who took most of the dividends on "glasnost"? A handful of zhurnalyug koi along the way shit all our past .. But when this one dies .. I HATE .. I’ll come and piss on his grave .. How many people have left that really make up the color and mind of the country. but nothing takes it .. to see even devils disdain them
  22. +5
    29 July 2020 13: 08
    The sovereign is weak and crafty,
    A bald dandy, the enemy of labor,
    Unintentionally warmed by glory,
    We reigned then
  23. +3
    29 July 2020 13: 13
    Everything that leads to the evolution of the country and society can be assessed in different ways, but hardly in a negative way. Anything that leads to collapse, ruin, death, to evaluate in different ways, you must be able to !!!
    1. +4
      29 July 2020 16: 03
      Quote: rocket757
      Everything that leads to the evolution of the country and society can be assessed in different ways, but hardly in a negative way. Anything that leads to collapse, ruin, death, to evaluate in different ways, you must be able to !!!

      yes, Victor! hi Greetings! substitution of concepts, substitution of meanings! At first glasnost was replaced by lies and slander, and then discredit of everything Soviet, everything that was good done by fathers and grandfathers
      1. +2
        29 July 2020 18: 20
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        Everything is done according to a plan that was not written by fools.
        All their flights are shoals of performers who are not geniuses, and even greedy beyond measure.
        Anyway, the plan was ... good, we have to admit it. A great country, an idea, a dream, was almost destroyed.
        Now dangles at the turn, neither there, finally, nor back.
        1. +3
          29 July 2020 18: 39
          ...... the plan was ......
          Yes, Victor, that's right. And it turned out that today I already wrote to another article. There were people who made up, those who could carry out orders without arguing were skillfully selected.
          The soil was prepared under Andropov, Solzhenitsyn, the memoirs of Khrushchev, and his affair with dissidents ...
          1. +1
            29 July 2020 19: 31
            Those who are in sight, most often the performers .... "conduct", usually completely different.
            Not all archives have been raised yet ... although, specifically, these, this power will be buried with seven seals.
            1. +2
              29 July 2020 20: 43
              Quote: rocket757
              Those who are in sight, most often the performers .... "conduct", usually completely different.
              Not all archives have been raised yet ... although, specifically, these, this power will be buried with seven seals.

              I wonder why they suddenly start chatting? Blurt out too much? Are they spoken? Or declare for foreigners, they say, is ready for anything? Whether it's Yakovlev or redhead, it's interesting that Gorbachev pretends to be white and fluffy to the last.
              Yes, the archives are being opened, for example, the archives of the Czech Republic and the Security Service of Ukraine are gradually opening, there is about the post-post-mortem time and pests sent to us, I have already written about those materials.
              The United States published telephone conversations between Ye.B. N and Clinton. One of them curses, fawns, the other squeezes. Speech about Yugoslavia ..
              I would like to know more about Andropov's time. Then a lot took shape ..
              1. +1
                29 July 2020 21: 54
                Basically there is interes and the BABOSIKI play an important role. They want to snatch on the secrets, or even on the fantasies of someone's inflamed imagination.
                In any case, there is nothing particularly new there that is instructive in that.
                For all times, a person has invented so many things, take it and use it, pf-e.
                1. +1
                  30 July 2020 07: 42
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Basically there is interes and the BABOSIKI play an important role. They want to snatch on the secrets, or even on the fantasies of someone's inflamed imagination.
                  In any case, there is nothing particularly new there that is instructive in that.
                  For all times, a person has invented so many things, take it and use it, pf-e.
                  other interesting ----- why now and Yeltsin? about the bombing and so it is known. Why did you decide to stir up this swamp? Let's wait, what's next. request
                  1. +1
                    30 July 2020 08: 35
                    Secret plans, conspiracies ... how events will develop, then it will be possible to judge, otherwise, just a storm in their glass.
                    1. +1
                      30 July 2020 09: 02
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Secret plans, conspiracies ... how events will develop, then it will be possible to judge, otherwise, just a storm in their glass.

                      Quite often we hear accusations that the Russians are interfering in their elections or something else. And somehow neither ours, nor they themselves, do not speak about interference in our processes. am am at least "restructuring" - tuning, negative negative , though something else,
                      1. +1
                        30 July 2020 09: 09
                        Political games ... all for the sake of power! When there are no particular successes, you need to think of them. It is easy to draw a victory or take the position of the offended and appoint either the guilty or the defeated, when your own electorate does not bother to check this! in general, the usual big dregs, for the sake of power and money.
        2. -2
          29 July 2020 18: 54
          Quote: rocket757
          Everything is done according to a plan that was not written by fools.
          All their flights are shoals of performers who are not geniuses, and even greedy beyond measure.
          Anyway, the plan was ... good, we have to admit it. A great country, an idea, a dream, was almost destroyed.

          I also share this opinion Victor and there are observations and comparisons
          Quote: rocket757
          Now dangles at the turn, neither there, finally, nor back.

          Exactly so for now, .. But we are slowly moving forward, and then we will see
          1. +2
            29 July 2020 19: 27
            You have to move forward from any situation. Returning back, usually does not bring anything good.
            Of course, there are variants of the "reconnaissance in force" type, but then the retreat plan is prepared in advance and becomes part of the general plan. Not our case! Behind everything is destroyed, cannot be collected. We need to build NEW!
            1. -2
              29 July 2020 19: 41
              Quote: rocket757
              Behind everything is destroyed, cannot be collected. We need to build NEW!

              I agree, Victor, but the new is the well-forgotten old .. This must also be adhered to and not copy ALL Western .. It will kill us hi
  24. +7
    29 July 2020 13: 14
    The policy of openness led to the next important step - the abolition of the one-party system. In the Soviet Union, political parties and movements emerged that brought together representatives of various directions of political thought - from monarchists to anarchists. It was then, during the perestroika period, that the foundations of the modern Russian multiparty system were laid.

    and now every party committee, by hook or by crook, is striving for power and the budget without actually doing anything for the population of the country.
    The policy of glasnost was also of great importance for the cultural life of the country: the works of many writers appeared in the public domain, the state stopped hindering musicians and artists in their creative activities, rock bands were able to freely conduct their concerts. Nowadays, few people remember that it was almost impossible to find the works of many writers in the Soviet Union, except in samizdat, and for the passion for rock culture one could face very big problems.

    if we had not read Solzhenitsyn, Suvorov, etc. then they would have lost a little, or rather not lost anything at all. Musicians like Pussy who copulate with chicken is a dubious achievement. An artist nailing his scrotum to paving stones is at the level of a madhouse on vacation, not a cultural achievement. Swearing and pornography in the theater, Stanislavsky would not have believed, but had to. There are no words about House 2, otherwise an eternal ban.
    The gradual lifting of the “iron curtain” was of decisive importance for many spheres of the life of Soviet society. Firstly, it became easier to leave the Soviet Union, people got the opportunity to visit other countries not for business or official purposes. Secondly, the removal of the “iron curtain” facilitated the further development of cultural ties with abroad.

    As before, the overwhelming majority could not leave, because of the Iron Curtain and now they cannot only because of the lack of funds. If the demolition of monuments to the warriors of the Second World War is the development of cultural ties, then probably yes, this is an achievement.
    Cultural figures and contemporary music groups from other states began to come to the Soviet Union, foreign films appeared in the film distribution, which Soviet citizens watched with pleasure.

    Cultural figures advocating permissiveness, campaigning for the LGBT community, etc., etc. Foreign films were watched anyway, but they were world masterpieces, and not the stupefying consumer goods that in fact killed Soviet cinema.
    So, these reforms did not bring anything good. And you can't remember them.
  25. +2
    29 July 2020 13: 25
    the consequences of this glasnost are still being raked up by historians and publicists with a conscience ... there was an age, I don’t remember the glasnost ...
  26. +1
    29 July 2020 13: 27
    Publicity for a snack on an empty stomach with no clear prospects for the country is the result of perestroika.
  27. +5
    29 July 2020 14: 29
    The policy of openness led to the next important step - the abolition of the one-party system.

    What led to the collapse of the State.
    Now the current authorities have also built a one-party system with many pocket "opposition". Has it led to publicity? lol Through our media, you can hear passionate discussions about Ukraine, the United States and Syria. What is happening in the country, what the policy of globalization, the promotion of consumerism and hedonism has led to, not a word.
    The election of representatives of "servants of the people" generally raises many questions. Where are the deputies of working professions, in contrast to the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR - the highest body of state power in the USSR? And the pluralism of opinions in the current "democracy" lies in the Guarantor's phrase: "Treat this with understanding" or maybe in that verbal diarrhea that "omniscient experts" and "advanced" bloggers in Internet chats with shit with from blue screens? lol
    So where was there more democracy then, in the "prison of peoples" - the USSR or the current "free" RF?
    1. Alf
      +10
      29 July 2020 18: 23
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      Where are the deputies of working professions, in contrast to the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR - the highest organ of state power in the USSR?


  28. +1
    29 July 2020 14: 37
    For this government, it was a step forward, where it should have stayed there. For the rest of the people, it was a step in the back, where the people continue to remain. The amazing thing is that they took a step forward and ended up in feudalism. And where is the publicity and stuff now? You will open your mouth about how the authorities move cancer and immediately put on a muzzle. And this marked figure should have foreseen this too. The devils took pity on him, and his wife was taken away, like he is not worthy of her, or she does not want to be with the unworthy. Soon they will come for him and they will wind him in all circles of Hell from beginning to end and from end to beginning to end.
  29. +2
    29 July 2020 14: 49
    Quote: iouris
    Quote: 1536
    in the USSR, happened in spite of, and not thanks to that policy

    Speaker: "Despite the successes in the implementation of the historical decisions of the XX ... Congress of the CPSU, the living standard of the population is growing"
    Question from the presidium: "Have you tried the dust?"

    [i] “The goal of my whole life has been the destruction of communism, an intolerable dictatorship over people. I was fully supported by my wife, who understood the need for this even earlier than I did. It was to achieve this goal that I used my position in the party and country. That is why my wife kept pushing me to ensure that I consistently occupy a higher and higher position in the country. When I personally got to know the West, I realized that I could not retreat from my goal. "

    Mikhail Gorbachev, speech at the American University in Istanbul in 1999
  30. +3
    29 July 2020 15: 26
    Let this spotted bastard think what people will say about his death and what they will do with his grave.
  31. +4
    29 July 2020 15: 44
    Let's summarize these roughly positive reforms:
    1. Publicity. In fact, it was then that the Soviet state made a huge leap towards pluralism of opinions, towards freedom of speech, well, what is the result, toddler children now speak obscenely and express their thoughts and emotions on it, alas, but you cannot call it freedom of speech, although this option is considered freedom by some of our "partners", and the ability to talk nonsense from the TV screen can be limited, at the same time shortening the languages ​​of some "free" representatives of the press from the fifth column. So this is also "MINUS";
    2. The policy of openness led to the next important step - the abolition of the one-party system. Well, you can't argue here, there are many, different parties and everything seems to be as expected, if not for one BUT. Everyone has their feet on the back of their neck, our most beloved and democratic United Russia, and no matter what someone says, with a de jure multi-party system, in fact we have the same one-party system - a tool to influence attempts to build Russia not according to the intended style. Again "MINUS";
    3. The state ceased to hinder musicians and artists in their creative activities, rock groups were able to freely conduct their concerts. Well, yes, we sang in different voices, but after a while we suddenly lost some of the actors who sang at the beginning of perestroika, singing not what the ruling party likes.
    3.1 Nowadays, few people remember that it was almost impossible to find the works of many writers in the Soviet Union, except in samizdat, if we are talking about the works of Solzhenitsyn and others like him, it may be so good that it was not in the public domain, Two more " MINUS ";
    4. It became easier to leave the Soviet Union, people got the opportunity to visit other countries not for business or official purposes. The removal of the "Iron Curtain" facilitated the further development of cultural ties with foreign countries. Well, yes, interesting people came to us in a crowd, cultural bearers from the CIA, MI-6 and other cultural societies of the West, the results are a dime a dozen, both in terms of ideology and the damage caused by espionage and subversion, from the actions of purchased agents of influence and etc. "MINUS"
    5. Foreign films appeared in the box office, which Soviet citizens watched with pleasure, and most importantly, foreign film studios were pleased to show them, our cinema was practically no longer financed and lowered below the plinth, and it still owes a big debt to its audience. And again "MINUS"

    In a word, the traitor and Judas Gorbachev brought the country only grief and devastation, Yeltsin became the successor of his work and there is no need to try to attach wings to them or add white feathers, these were the enemies of our country, and only by malicious intent, or stupidity, or greed let those who are supposed to be on duty
  32. +3
    29 July 2020 16: 11
    Gorbachev is still supported by representatives of culture as well as businessmen who left cooperatives. I do not agree with the author that during the period of pre-Gorbachev history, the government of the USSR had a desire to open the "iron curtain". During the long years of the Cold War, this was simply impossible. The roles of the USSR and the United States were distributed. And there was some clarity. Gorbachev broke it all. Change of ambassadors in Western states destroyed the entire foreign intelligence network. Diplomats lost the ability to work flexibly and turned into representatives And by destroying discipline at Soviet enterprises, he set the stage for further privatization. In fact, Yeltsin took power. But in order to move forward, you need to deal with this sweet couple.
  33. +2
    29 July 2020 16: 50
    No positive aspects can compensate for even a small fraction of the harm that this marked traitor inflicted on our Motherland. There is no forgiveness for him. There is no excuse. Burn him in hell.
  34. -5
    29 July 2020 17: 40
    The collapse of the USSR was inevitable 7-10 years earlier or later with Gorbachev and his reforms, and without them it would eventually have happened.
  35. +2
    29 July 2020 18: 17
    All his "reforms" - opened the way for thieves and bandits.
    1. -1
      29 July 2020 18: 57
      Well, there were no thieves and bandits in the republics before his arrival.
      1. 0
        30 July 2020 09: 55
        Compared to the thieves of the 90s and beyond, they are simply bogeymen.
        1. 0
          30 July 2020 14: 38
          Yes, remembering the Cotton Business - when the Soviet Union was shod at 12 billion rubles, the thugs corresponded to the guys in the 90s.
          1. 0
            30 July 2020 19: 20
            Cotton spruce - muddy and ordered, promoted for the collapse of the Union.
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  37. +3
    29 July 2020 19: 15
    great article! wassat
    there are many people on the VO website with diametrically opposed views, but this is the first time I see such unanimity in the negative perception of the content of the article! soldier for 71 comments only 1 (!!!) positive. good
    I suspect that if the author wrote about the positive experience of solving the Jewish question in Hitler's Germany, he would have found more support than in attempts to clean up this tagged bastard. request
  38. 0
    29 July 2020 19: 18
    the word "glasnost". In fact, it was then that the Soviet state made a huge leap towards pluralism of opinions.

    Yeah ... One "Spark" was a multi-megaton bomb. And on the wave of "glasnost" (exactly what was uploaded) such torpedoes rushed, aimed at the history of the country, at blaming everything in a row ... I'm afraid that "glasnost" did most of all for the assassination of the USSR. (But they were gorging - and they asked for supplements! Well, that's the "squiggle" that they kept on a hungry inform-ration for too long ...)
    And there was no pluralism of opinions (in the media, on TV). The investigators-experts Gdlyany-Ivanovs merrily mingled with the Dzhuns, Chumaks, Kashpirovskys. It was not publicity. It was - as in Goya's etching - the very dream of reason that gave rise to previously unthinkable monsters.
  39. 0
    29 July 2020 23: 34
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    Publicity was needed.

    I need it. Only in reality there was an inflection in the direction of smearing everything Soviet. And since the trust in the printed word was very high, they believed all the nonsense.
  40. +1
    30 July 2020 06: 46
    Yes, even then people understood that glasnost and perestroika were bullshit and wrote poems on this topic, here is one of them: "The troika Mishka, Raika, perestroika are racing across Russia." Even then, people did not believe, but no one asked their opinions.
  41. 0
    1 August 2020 18: 57
    It is thanks to "glasnost" and other rubbish that people began to impose the "creativity" of mediocrities and traitors, "the rabble of humanity" such as Solzhenitsyn, "Suvorov" (rezun) and others. This is yes. A huge achievement of the marked Judas, so that he was moved by a tank.
  42. 0
    1 August 2020 20: 33
    Time has shown that the absence of a party was hidden behind the "one-party system" in the USSR. Let's remember Dudayev, Basayev, a former member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and secretary of the regional committee of the Komsomol, Yeltsin and Putin for how many years had party cards of members of the CPSU been in their pockets? Gorbachev was not a communist by conviction. It was no longer a party.
    Now there is a multi-party system in the Russian Federation, but in fact one-party system ..
    About culture. There was culture in the USSR, but what now? House-2 culture? Are there new songs that the whole country sings? Yes, among the songs, except for remakes, nothing appeared. People no longer sing songs, because there is nothing to sing .. And the news? This is not a variety, to describe whose turn it was, who broke the nose for whom, for a fashionable get-together resembles playing with a bottle. I don’t think that the model of culture can be speculation with whose grandson the elderly prima will marry again.
    The actual one-party system, lack of culture are the realities of today. And the late USSR is a motley bunch with CPSU tickets in your pocket. And not everyone who was eager to go to the big stage could demonstrate an example of culture. Life is a difficult thing, family happiness is the lot of a few, personal life should remain private, not public.
    There were no reforms, there was the destruction of the country, the people, its cultural and moral values.
  43. 0
    2 August 2020 15: 13
    If all these socio-political transformations contributed to the rise of the economy, an increase in the level of material well-being and spirituality of citizens, but they were carried out as a consequence of either stupidity or malicious intent directly to the opposite, and therefore he is guilty before the peoples of the USSR, he is a criminal, responsible for all those the hardships that befell them in the 90s and continue to affect them to this day, in fairness he should be punished.
  44. 0
    2 August 2020 17: 44
    Quote: svp67
    this Mr

    Aptly marked.
    Either mr or mr.
    Although rather the latter.
  45. 0
    4 August 2020 16: 28
    Two bright monsters of the same nationality.
  46. 0
    4 August 2020 19: 21
    Well, that's how it all started, the collapse of the CPSU idiology. The gentlemen in sweaters and jeans, even in the design of the Russian Federation, recorded this fact, in the form of an article on the prohibition of state idiology. What good is it, I can't understand?

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