In China: Putin is calm about the Russian Navy

Russia is actively modernizing its naval forces. At the same time, the main efforts are aimed at creating systems that have no analogues in the world.

This is the opinion of a Chinese author who published an article on the Internet platform Baijiahao ("Baijiahao").

On July 26, ceremonial events and parades were held in Russia to mark the Day of the Naval fleet... President Vladimir Putin made a speech in which he congratulated the sailors on the holiday and noted the outstanding role of the Navy in strengthening the defense capability of the Russian Federation.

According to the author, Russia has a strong fleet, which has become so thanks to the constant introduction of the latest models of equipment and weapons.

Samples of warships and sea aviation, demonstrated at the naval parade, allow us to assert that the power of the Russian fleet is not exaggerated.

The Chinese author draws attention to the large-scale modernization of the fleet in Russia. Our country has focused on the introduction and development of digital technologies, the development of unique hypersonic strike systems, unmanned underwater vehicles and other equipment that has no analogues in the world.

The author of the article is particularly approved by the development of hypersonic weapons, which allows, in conditions of limited economic resources, to achieve a high level of combat effectiveness. In his opinion, this speaks of the insight of the country's president, Vladimir Putin. The author notes that Vladimir Putin is calm about the Russian fleet.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Does Putin have his own military fleet? For it is too early to be proud of the Russian Navy, it lacks as a class destroyers, the ships most needed for the combat fleet, and their functions are performed by 1000 tons of rickets, with autonomy, as for a "hooligan" !!!

[Tank jacket]

"The author of the article is especially approved by the development of hypersonic weapons, which makes it possible to achieve a high level of combat effectiveness in conditions of limited economic resources."

[yfast]

Quote: Tank jacket

"The author of the article is especially approved by the development of hypersonic weapons, which makes it possible to achieve a high level of combat effectiveness in conditions of limited economic resources."

I wonder how long ago the author of the article got out of the rice fields.

[novel66]

ours to you! but what to worry about what, consider, and not (except for submarines ()

[Tank jacket]

And to you ours with a brush , the main weapon of Russia is its people, Russian spirit, culture.
"And one soldier in the field, if he is tailored in Russian"

[novel66]

is also true, but our fleet, on a campaign, is only strong on its shores, maybe right

[Tank jacket]

Did the calibers reach the ISIS members from the Caspian Sea? And like off the coast ... A good demonstration of the possibilities?

[novel66]

Ruslan, the ISIS members are not our likely enemy, so, a side target

[Tank jacket]

Roman, I disagree with you, because The Ishilloites are the irregular US Army. The probable enemy switched to hybrid wars a long time ago, sponsoring terrorists, rebels, pirates, the opposition (Nuland cookies) everywhere ... So a number of Marines with beards ended up in Arlington Cemetery

[novel66]

undoubtedly, but "calibers" are an expensive thing, there will be enough against bearded men and cast iron, but for strikes on "decision-making centers" ... only strategists, you can't send the fleet, because there is nothing

[Boa kaa]

Quote: novel xnumx

but for strikes on "decision-making centers" ... only strategists, you can't send a fleet, because there is nothing

Roma, you famously excluded SNy APRKs and SSGNs from the Russian Navy! Oh well...

[novel66]

did not rule out !!

but what to worry about what, consider, and not (except for submarines ()

[NordUral]

More than once I have come across articles that describe the state of affairs of the submarine fleets of Russia somehow sadly.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Thrifty

there are no destroyers in it as a class

There are 4 Project 956 destroyers, although most of them are not in operation.
"Burny" is used as a floating barracks, will soon be written off.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

there are no destroyers in it as a class

What is it now? Can you describe its characteristics? So, what was previously considered a "destroyer" is now completely replaced by a "frigate"

[Thrifty]

Svp67 destroyer and frigate are boats for different purposes, and from our poverty we are replacing the ships of the ocean zone with anything! And, "what used to be a destroyer" -American Orly Burke retrained as frigates? The destroyer as a class was and remains a destroyer!

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

And, "what used to be a destroyer" -American Orly Burke retrained as frigates?

No, no one touches old projects, the conversation is about the current state of affairs ...
We also have the last of the "Mohicans" destroyers of project 956 "Sarych" that are, but if you look at their characteristics, displacement, geometrical dimensions, weapons, autonomy and compare them, with those of the frigate "Gorshkov" ... then somehow you understand that in something "Gorshkov" will be stronger
And yet, in the old days, our "large anti-submarine ships" of project 1155 -1, in the West were attributed to the destroyers of URO, but we now refer to them as "frigate" ...

[Thrifty]

svp67-and maybe everything is much simpler? We are simply not able to build a destroyer, we have been modernizing the nuclear cruiser for many years, and it is not known when it will end. We do not have modern diesel engines for such a gramada as a destroyer, we have lost the manufacturing technology of tooling and equipment, it was not because of a good life that we bought 1000 ton Chinese diesel engines for rickets, which were massively poured! You can sing whatever you want, but the creation of a destroyer Russia will not pull, and perhaps will not pull at all and never! For now the authorities are only getting one -total finishing off the Soviet reserve in the defense industry, without creating a replacement for this reserve.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

We do not have modern diesel engines for such a gramada as a destroyer,

And what kind of "bulk" is this? What do you mean by this? Previously, our destroyers with a displacement of 8 tons were, now we have such frigates ...

[Thrifty]

svp67-so, according to different sources, the displacement of destroyers should be up to 13000 tons, and between 8 and 13 thousand tons of displacement, the difference is decent. This, and the size is larger, and the fillings on it will also come out more. And those diesels that we are able to create such a ship will not pull, because they lack power!

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

according to various sources, the water displacement of destroyers should be up to 13000 tons,

This is already some kind of landmark ...

Quote: Thrifty

And those diesels that we are able to create such a ship will not pull, because they lack power!

Sori, and what then are going to move the UDC under construction, with a displacement of 25?

[Thrifty]

svp67 -turbines, most likely, perhaps, are reversible, so that they are not "too voracious, perhaps they are looking for ways to buy a diesel engine more powerful in the foreign country, but we do not have our own ones today, and it is unlikely that the situation will change for the better in 5 years ...

[Vol4ara]

The union has never had such idle talk that reigns now. No one shouted at every corner how strong we are, and what developments we have conceived, but everyone knew that there was a fleet and a really strong fleet, that there was space and we were the first. And in the newspapers they wrote when, something was done and invented (if there is no secrecy), and not when the layout was invented. We are increasingly using the role of a pug

[awdrgy]

And it's not casual Not us

[Tusv]

Quote: Vol4ara

We are increasingly using the role of a pug

Pug, then she Pug, as she barks with Zirconia and there is no elephant.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Tusv

Pug, then she Pug, as she barks with Zirconia and there is no elephant.

but there is still no objectively adopted Zircon. It's early to shout "Gop" .... (!)

[Civil]

What worries about him? How much money is enough for so much and content.

[Thrifty]

That my comment is not to someone's liking, gentlemen minusoids? But truth is not a venal girl to please everyone! Russia does not have a normal Navy, but there is a variegated collection of combat and partially combat-ready ships! !!! Minus even to white brooms, the truth from your anger will not be different! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mamuka Petrovich]

it lacks as a class destroyers, the ships most needed for the combat fleet, and their functions are performed by 1000 ton rickets

The installation of hypersonic weapons partially neutralizes and reduces the cost of these gaps

[Alex777]

Even patriots are embarrassed for this article.
I am sure that Putin is not calm about the fleet.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

Even patriots are embarrassed for this article.

It would be better if the author squeezed out not the fictions of the Chinese blogger, but about how the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drone attack struck Armenia.

[svp67]

Quote: Alex777

I am sure that Putin is not calm about the fleet.

And in Russia, there is nothing to be calm about ... you cannot relax ...

[rotmistr60]

Russia is actively modernizing its naval forces

After the parade in the west, led by the United States, predictably began yelling with wringing of hands about the fact that Russia, allegedly increasing the arms race, is becoming stronger and from this becomes even more "aggressive". The Russian fleet is certainly not the largest in terms of the number of ships, but the weapons installed on the ships partially compensate for this. As they say - each vegetable has its own time.

[iouris]

How will the Navy help, for example, in completing the SP-2?

[Yura]

Quote: iouris

How will the Navy help, for example, in completing the SP-2?

By its mere presence, if it did not exist, then there would be no joint ventures, and others too.

[iouris]

Thank. And what will happen to the SP-2?
Quote: "Gazprom ceased to own the only pipelayer Akademik Chersky in Russia with a modern dynamic positioning system." End of quote.
PS It's not me, it's on the Internet

[Yura]

Quote: iouris

Thank. And what will happen to the SP-2?
Quote: "Gazprom ceased to own the only pipelayer Akademik Chersky in Russia with a modern dynamic positioning system." End of quote.
PS It's not me, it's on the Internet

Completed nowhere, he will not go away. So the ship did not belong to Gazprom, it belonged to a company - a subsidiary of Gazprom, now it belongs to another company, but also a subsidiary of Gazprom.

Quote: iouris

PS It's not me, it's on the Internet

Yes you are, you, because no one can just finish reading what is on the Internet for you.

[Nastia makarova]

it is necessary to read completely !!!! Gazprom sold to a Samara company to ward off sanctions

[Alex777]

How will the Navy help, for example, in completing the SP-2?

If it were not for the escort of the Navy, the "Akademik Chersky" might not have reached the Baltic.
You asked a good question. Right on time and on time.

[tihonmarine]

Well, the Chinese author expressed his opinion. Who is he ? An expert, scientist, political scientist, journalist, or just like most of us, squeezed an article in a large circulation, and here we are discussing, breaking spears. The article is about nothing.

[iouris]

The Chinese author has nothing to do with it. The site is "patriotic".

[rocket757]

Hmm, no words, but we will hold the expressions for now.

[Glory to Berkut]

Quote: iouris

Thank. And what will happen to the SP-2?
Quote: "Gazprom ceased to own the only pipelayer Akademik Chersky in Russia with a modern dynamic positioning system." End of quote.
PS It's not me, it's on the Internet

This means that the SP-2 will be completed. To remove Gazprom from possible sanctions, a separate entity will be created under Akademik Chersky, which will be closed after the completion of the installation. With all the sanctions hanged on him. And the ship will go back to Gazprom or another Russian structure

[Glory to Berkut]

Quote: iouris

Thank. And what will happen to the SP-2?
Quote: "Gazprom ceased to own the only pipelayer Akademik Chersky in Russia with a modern dynamic positioning system." End of quote.
PS It's not me, it's on the Internet

This means that the SP-2 will be completed. To remove Gazprom from possible sanctions, a separate legal entity will be created under Akademik Chersky, which will be closed after the completion of the installation. With all the sanctions hanged on him. And the ship will go back to Gazprom or another Russian structure

[iouris]

Quote: Glory to Berkut

or other Russian structure

It doesn't make sense, because no insurance company dares to insure.

[codetalker]

There is a lot to say about the state of our fleet, about the program for its renewal, and so on. There are enough problems. But you can also state:
1) Russia has a navy! He's alive.
2) The fleet will develop.
3) The direction of development is the creation of an ocean-going fleet.
And remembering the state of our country quite recently, it seems like a miracle and a feat.

[iouris]

Quote: codetalker

there is a navy! He is alive

And if they begin to blame not across the sea (the Russian Federation is not an oceanic, but a continental power), but through the Internet. How will the Navy respond to Zuckerberg?

[codetalker]

Does cyber attack defense somehow eliminate the need for a modern navy?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: codetalker

The fleet will develop.
The direction of development is the creation of an ocean-going fleet.

This is so.
But the detractors are bending their own line, working out the "cookies" of the State Department.
In 2020 alone, I should receive 40 units. At the same time, the USC plans to hand over 4 submarines: the carrier of 2M39 submarines of the Belgorod submarine (0985.2), 2 Kazan and Novosibirsk submarines (885M), the Knyaz Oleg submarine submarine (955A). In just one day, 3 units of DOZ were laid at 6 CVDs! I would like to faster and more, but so far only so. Let's learn to do faster and better - we will do it!

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Only in 2020 should receive 40 units.

40?! what 40 ?! Grachat and Raptorov ?! "Kasatonov", "Thundering", "Tsydenzharov", and if you are lucky another 20380 ... well, maybe one minesweeper 12700 ... "Kazan" (that year "due"), "Belgorod" (?).... and ?! Rakhmanov, in his figures about grandiose plans, apparently does not hesitate to include all the support vessels and the auxiliary fleet, since he does not hesitate to voice the number 40 (!). Even 14, what he (Rakhmanov) calls without blushing - COMBAT ...

Plans for delivery in 2020 - 14 Warships, which, in general, for us, even in comparison with the Soviet period, is a record. In the Soviet years, we handed over only six submarines a year, and this is a figure that we will be very close to. This year we hope that we will transfer at least three, and hopefully even four, submarines to the fleet.

- said the head of the USC.

looks objectively speaking - far-fetched or to put it mildly - unconvincing...
that in his understanding there are 14 COMBAT ships ?!, this year ?!.

[Old26]

Quote: rotmistr60

Russia is actively modernizing its naval forces

After the parade in the west, led by the United States, predictably began yelling with wringing of hands about the fact that Russia, allegedly increasing the arms race, is strengthening and this is becoming even more "aggressive".

Of course it started. We have been regularly marking time on this "rake" for 70 years, causing by our "trampling" screams that then flow into knocking out multibillion-dollar additional funding, and then we are indignant that they are screaming about our "aggression"

Quote: rotmistr60

The Russian fleet is certainly not the largest in terms of the number of ships, but the weapons installed on the ships partially compensate for this. As they say - each vegetable has its own time.

It is difficult to say how much this is compensated for. So far it is not clear that this is somehow compensated for in terms of quantity and quality.

Quote: dartve

The submarine fleet does not need a large surface at all. He needs a mosquito supply fleet. And that's all.

Yeah. That is, to provide an exit outside the base and enough. And let the submarine fleet stomp itself into the deployment area, under the cover of "mosquitoes" ... You should go to the Navy Academy. To put all our naval commanders to shame. They, boobies, thought that the mosquito fleet could not solve all the problems. It turns out to be solved

[litlltor]

According to the author, Russia has a strong fleet

, yes, only mosquito.

[Whirlwind]

The Russian fleet is on the rise - this is obvious to everyone. Of course, no one is going to calm down, it's not that time, but no one is sitting idly by. Of course, I would like that destroyers of the "Leader" type were built in series, by the way, the ships WOULD be the most beautiful, BUT the shipyards are not empty anyway. Weapons are becoming more and more effective and such a number of ships, as was previously not required everywhere. Now, some coastal complexes standing in the Crimea, to a large extent, can control the surface of the Black Sea to the Bosphorus, and the same in the Baltic from Kaliningrad to the Danish straits.
"Zircons" will probably also make their own amendments to the tactics of conducting a naval battle.
The main thing is that our Navy is a very complex organism, it lives and develops in fear of enemies and for the glory of Russia. And Putin, as Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces and Chairman of the Military-Industrial Commission, keeps the Fleet under control - this is an obvious fact.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Whirlwind

Russian fleet on the rise

or just stopped further falling ?! If a couple of 956 or 1155 stops a year, and the fleet receives 22350 and 20380 (!), best case scenario ...

Quote: Whirlwind

it's obvious to everyone

?!

Quote: Whirlwind

Now, some coastal complexes in the Crimea, to a large extent, can control the surface of the Black Sea to the Bosphorus, and the same in the Baltic from Kaliningrad to the Danish straits.

that is, you think the ships are no longer needed?

Quote: Whirlwind

"Zircons" will probably also make their own amendments to the tactics of conducting a naval battle.

probably when they are already adopted, but NOT BEFORE (!). and second, why so many people really revel in Zircons. And I'm quite careful about this, like the namesake -

Quote: Old26

Don't make another unparalleled wunderwaffe out of hypersonic missiles.

... During the Soviet era, there were already (!) such super missiles as "Granite" or "Vulcan", which have no analogues for their time, both in terms of range and speed of missiles, and so on. etc. .... but there was a PROBLEM, But what can provide target designation for them at such ranges ?! ?! Is this problem solved for Zircons ?! ?! Long-range naval aviation has not increased, but how effective is "Liana" which should replace the "Legend" ?!... Maybe there were massively UAVs capable of providing control centers for "Granites / Volcanoes / Zircons", at ranges of 500-650 km ?!..... Or "throw up the cap" and he will highlight our goals ?! ...

[Old26]

Quote: Mamuka Petrovich

it lacks as a class destroyers, the ships most needed for the combat fleet, and their functions are performed by 1000 ton rickets

The installation of hypersonic weapons partially neutralizes and reduces the cost of these gaps

Don't make another unparalleled wunderwaffe out of hypersonic missiles. These rockets, located on "river-sea" ships, for which the excitement of several points is already an insurmountable obstacle, will give a lot. It is especially effective to shoot these hypersonic missiles (into the white light, like a pretty penny) from a ship that does not have a normal radar and especially air defense ... Of course, they level it ... That's just to what point these "hyper" will fire

[lopvlad]

Quote: Old26

These rockets, located on "river-sea" ships, for which the excitement of several points is already an insurmountable obstacle, will give a lot.

a lot if in one full salvo from such a kid at a distance of 1000 kilometers (range of "zircon") can send a destroyer with a star-striped flag and more than 150 tomahawks on board to the bottom.
The size of warships grew from the impossibility of placing serious weapons in ships of a smaller displacement.

[Old26]

Quote: lopvlad

a lot if in one full salvo from such a kid at a distance of 1000 kilometers (range of "zircon") can send a destroyer with a star-striped flag and more than 150 tomahawks on board to the bottom.
The size of warships grew from the impossibility of placing serious weapons in ships of a smaller displacement.

And what are you going to give target designation for such "River-Sea" ships. Especially at a distance of 1000 km? Holy Spirit?
And one more detail. US destroyer does not carry 150 Tomahawks