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Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea: life without Dnieper water

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Very often, topics for publications appear from conversations, disputes, some opinions that quite often arise in the process of communicating with readers. Fortunately, modern means of communication allow us to conduct discussions not only with supporters, but also with opponents. This article was the result of several such disputes on the eve of the Day of the Russian Navy. The subject of the dispute: the impending "war" between Ukraine and Russia for water in the Crimean Canal.


It is clear that for most readers this question seems to be closed. Numerous statements by the political and military leadership of Russia give a clear understanding that at the present time the issue of water on the peninsula does not arise. Consequently, Russia does not intend to fight with Ukraine. This is the opinion of the majority of Russians.

Ukrainians, on the contrary, are confident that Crimea is dying without water, and the accelerated development of Crimean resorts, the restoration of Crimean enterprises, and the agriculture of the peninsula will require more and more industrial water. Indeed, in Soviet times, it was the canal that provided the Crimea with water by 84%. This means that with the pace of development that Crimea demonstrates, the war for water is a matter of time.

Whose point of view is correct


At first glance, both points of view are quite realistic. Moreover, based on past experience, the Ukrainian point of view even has some priority. There is even evidence of this point. I'm talking about an accident at one of the factories of the peninsula, which occurred precisely because of the lack of water. In theory, such accidents should be repeated in the future.

And the agriculture of the Crimea has changed, in the opinion of the Ukrainians, not for the better. The lack of water forced the farmers to change production radically. Now in Crimea, crops are grown that do not require a lot of water. Cultures traditional for Soviet times are a thing of the past. What's next? Further, according to the Ukrainians, Crimea should generally lose its fertile soil layer. It will turn to dust and just be blown away by the winds.

Another argument of supporters of the death of non-Ukrainian Crimea looks somewhat ridiculous. Remember, "we will wait until Russia collapses and simply take the territory with the help of the army"? We will not talk about the collapse of Russia today. But you can talk about the "Armed Forces in Crimea". Already today, the peninsula has on its territory a military grouping, which surpasses in its power the armies of most European states. Moreover, for all components.

And what about us? Let's start with industry. President Putin recently attended the laying of two large ships. Russia has revived the shipbuilding of the Crimea. Such production requires, among other things, a fairly large amount of industrial water. Agree, it is doubtful that the authorities of Russia and Crimea took a risk and limited the supply of drinking water to the resorts.

In terms of comfort, the modern Russian tourist is not much different from tourists from other countries. The "chicken coops" of Soviet times are a thing of the past. And they will never return. Russians, for the same money that they leave in Crimea, can quite safely rest in other countries. "Greenhouse conditions", which were in Soviet times, are no longer there. For a tourist you have to fight with competitors.

So what happened in the Crimean industry? An ordinary technical revolution. Old Soviet technologies were replaced with modern ones. No fanfare, no noisy festivities, no loud statements at a high level. We just created a new production. And this process, in my opinion, will continue in this direction.

Agriculture. Indeed, the range of products manufactured in Crimea has changed. The transfer of production was painful for the peasants for some time. But what is happening today? It is not yet possible to say that Crimeans ride like cheese in butter. Difficult, difficult, but already profitable. Perhaps this is how you can describe peasant labor on the peninsula.

Tell me today a region of Russia where there would be no products of the Crimean peasants. And in general the products of the Crimean production. There is a sales market, which means there is an incentive to increase production. This means that the Crimean agriculture is also switching to modern production that does not require a large amount of water.

The war for water is already underway


Yes, the war is already underway. And it began with the "victory of Ukraine" in 2014. From the closing of the locks of the Crimean Canal. Only the war is going on not only on the peninsula, but also on the territory of Ukraine. The Kherson region has already turned into an abnormal area for agriculture. And the place where the Dnieper water was discharged from the canal in the Karkinitsky Bay into the zone of ecological disaster. This has become a significant "addition" to the uncontrolled waste disposal of Ukrainian enterprises.

Alas, it is simply impossible to restore the ecosystem of the bay. Desalination and other negative phenomena in this bay have already led to a sharp decrease in the number of marine life in this part of the Black Sea. Fishermen have always worked in the bay. Even with a predatory attitude towards the marine fauna, the number of mullet, flounder, goby practically did not change. Today even the goby leaves these places. It's a shame to mention the famous Black Sea herbal shrimp.

Moreover, river water washes away the territory of Ukraine. I have no data for 2020, but for 2019, more than 15 hectares of land were simply "washed away" from the coast, that is, under water! They try not to speak openly about this, but this is the data of Ukrainian scientists!

For some reason, we always talk only about the positive aspects of our projects. They drained the swamp. It's so good that you can now plant potatoes in its place! And the fact that the nearby rivers for some reason dried up, we do not notice. They watered the desert. Now there will be melons for watermelons and melons. And the fact that animals have disappeared somewhere does not interest us.

Ukrainians are beginning to realize that deforestation in the Carpathians has led to climate change. This comes through death, through the loss of villages, destruction of roads, destruction of infrastructure. But for some reason it doesn't reach other places. The Black Sea "blooms" along the coast no worse than a rural fire pond. So what? Everything is good.

Has the climate changed in the Kherson region? Yes, everything is fine. Global warming or cooling. Your choice. For some reason, natural disasters began to occur regularly in the country, which had never been heard of before? Nature! Nobody knows what she will throw out the next moment.

So is this war or not? But who is fighting whom and why?

When will it end and will it end?


The instability of the political situation in Ukraine, the search for "one's own path" of development, disorder in society, and, to be honest, the absence of this very society leads the country to destruction. In such a situation, there is no time to think about any environmental problems. Think about climate change too. The main thing is to win! It doesn't even matter who to defeat.

The situation can change only when Ukraine finally decides what it is. Whose ally is she and how is she going to live on. All these slogans, which are ultimately just variations on the theme "for all good, against all bad", lead nowhere. More precisely, they only aggravate the country's situation. Lead to the loss of population, economic and military potential, to the loss of territories in the long run.

Today, almost everyone is sure that the water will return to the Crimean Canal. When will this happen and whose Crimea will be? Russians and Ukrainians have different opinions on this issue. Only now we completely forget about nature. About its capabilities and ability to adapt.

Crimea will soon completely solve the problem of water. How this happens is not important. The ecological system of the peninsula will adapt to the changed conditions. Naturally, there will be some climate change in Crimea. And Crimeans will learn to live without any discomfort in conditions of limited water consumption.

Then another question arises. Will the Dnieper water be needed on the peninsula? Is it really necessary to change everything again? The question has not been answered yet ...
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  1. svp67
    svp67 29 July 2020 12: 39 New
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    Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea
    If there is anything to be fought for, it is for the minds of the people and for the people in general. And then both water and earth, everything will arrive
    1. credo
      credo 29 July 2020 13: 38 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea
      If there is anything to be fought for, it is for the minds of the people and for the people in general. And then both water and earth, everything will arrive

      If we are to fight for the minds of people from Ukraine, then I see only one way - an increase in the well-being of the majority of Russian citizens, the revival of economic, social, political and military power, as well as the strengthening of democratic institutions while preserving the national foundations of the multinational population.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 29 July 2020 18: 51 New
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        Quote: credo
        If we are to fight for the minds of people from Ukraine, then I see only one way - an increase in the well-being of the majority of Russian citizens, the revival of economic, social, political and military power, as well as the strengthening of democratic institutions while preserving the national foundations of the multinational population.

        Comrade, I subscribe to your every word!
        On my own behalf, I would like to add that we are deliberately separated from the Ukrainian people by the bourgeois-Camprador governments, with the sole purpose of plundering us separately under the banner of false patriotism and nationalism. We will definitely reunite just as the brothers who quarreled will reconcile and throw off the hated regimes from our necks.
        Workers of all countries unite!
        1. perm23
          perm23 31 July 2020 07: 34 New
          +7
          Your comment resembles what was said in 1941. there, too, they expected that the German worker would not shoot at the Soviet worker, but they shot and how .. So it is not necessary to throw everything off on the authorities. such people and this people choose the government and serve it .. And you yourself inflate nationalism when you write about the Ukrainian people - they are Little Russians ..
          1. credo
            credo 4 August 2020 14: 55 New
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            Quote: perm23
            Your comment resembles what was said in 1941. there, too, they expected that the German worker would not shoot at the Soviet worker, but they shot and how .. So it is not necessary to throw everything off on the authorities. such people and this people choose the government and serve it .. And you yourself inflate nationalism when you write about the Ukrainian people - they are Little Russians ..

            Then it was not Little Russians, but Russians, since there was never such a people as Little Russians.
      2. Civil
        Civil 29 July 2020 21: 10 New
        +6
        Quote: credo
        Quote: svp67
        Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea
        If there is anything to be fought for, it is for the minds of the people and for the people in general. And then both water and earth, everything will arrive

        If we are to fight for the minds of people from Ukraine, then I see only one way - an increase in the well-being of the majority of Russian citizens, the revival of economic, social, political and military power, as well as the strengthening of democratic institutions while preserving the national foundations of the multinational population.

        gold words! Learn gentlemen propagandists ...
        1. Lumumbo
          Lumumbo 29 July 2020 21: 32 New
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          Quote: Civil
          Quote: credo
          Quote: svp67
          Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea
          If there is anything to be fought for, it is for the minds of the people and for the people in general. And then both water and earth, everything will arrive

          If we are to fight for the minds of people from Ukraine, then I see only one way - an increase in the well-being of the majority of Russian citizens, the revival of economic, social, political and military power, as well as the strengthening of democratic institutions while preserving the national foundations of the multinational population.

          gold words! Learn gentlemen propagandists ...

          Of yours? Well, your "brother" knows how to chat .... You usually reduce the welfare of the people, (as in the 90s) We know these slogans tse europe and mosk to gilyak, etc.
          Already sick of this! Every deputy yells about this and what's the point?
          It's all over with the Outskirts .. The farm was and remains a farm!
          No money, technology, and in general .. let them dance and salt lard with bulb negative
          They won't catch us for this song in Russia.
      3. vickul
        vickul 4 August 2020 14: 28 New
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        This is the only correct way.
    2. Radius
      Radius 29 July 2020 13: 39 New
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      Tomatoes grow well in the steppe Crimea. Regular watering is even contraindicated for them. A couple of spring rains are enough. Technical grapes do not need the same watering. Everything depends on the desire .... And the population can be provided with water. But the same depends on desire.
      1. nickname7
        nickname7 29 July 2020 13: 48 New
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        And Israel grows orange orchards in the desert using drip irrigation.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: nickname7
          And Israel grows orange orchards in the desert using drip irrigation.

          where is Israel and where is Crimea?
        2. Lumumbo
          Lumumbo 29 July 2020 21: 40 New
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          Quote: nickname7
          And Israel grows orange orchards in the desert using drip irrigation.

          Wells were dug by Israel and all sources of water (oases) in Lebanon were drained .. They buy water from the Jews and basically these settlements have simply ceased to exist
          This is how it was done in a tricky way! And Israeli vegetables and fruits are continuous chemistry THERE IS NO CHERNOZEM! Remember this ..
          1. Sertorius
            Sertorius 1 August 2020 13: 52 New
            +1
            I drained all the sources of water (oases) in Lebanon .. They buy water from the Jews and basically these settlements have simply ceased to exist
            This is how it was done in a tricky way! And Israeli vegetables and fruits are continuous chemistry THERE IS NO CHERNOZEM!

            Just a waterfall of stupidity.
            1. There are no oases in Lebanon. There is water everywhere - from the mountains. The Litani River, bordering Israel, feeds the Bekaa Valley (this granary has existed for thousands of years) in Lebanon. On the river in the Karaun region there is a reservoir with a hydroelectric power station. So it is Israel that demands that the Lebanese leave more water in the Litani.
            2. Not only chernozem agricultural products are reproduced. The Promised Land has existed for thousands of years. And fed hundreds of thousands of people. Everything was grown in the valleys - from wheat and barley to olives and grapes.
            3. Chemistry is everywhere. But I prefer domestic chemistry to Israeli chemistry. soldier
      2. Asad
        Asad 29 July 2020 14: 08 New
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        Did you grow tomatoes and grapes yourself without watering?
      3. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 29 July 2020 14: 22 New
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        tomatoes grow great. Regular watering is even contraindicated for them.


        Every single day requires watering.
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 29 July 2020 18: 00 New
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        Quote: Radius
        Tomatoes grow well in the steppe Crimea. Regular watering is even contraindicated for them. A couple of spring rains are enough. Technical grapes do not need the same watering. Everything depends on the desire .... And the population can be provided with water. But the same depends on desire.

        Tomatoes need water. And even more so in the steppe Crimea. The soil dries out in July-August without rain to the state of concrete, while heating up to 70-80 degrees above zero .. Hell .... Plants die. The grapes are more patient .. The root system is powerful .. But it also loves water ... It is necessary to solve the problem of drinking and industrial water ... Kherson had to be taken in 2014 ... Now it is necessary to correctly solve the water problem, without blood and wars. We are not Israel, that would kill people for water. Let scientists think about this problem .. I am sure the water problem will be solved. Scientists and diplomats.
  2. demo
    demo 29 July 2020 12: 46 New
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    You always expect quality material from Mr. Staver.
    And here....
    All mixed up in a heap.
    And why write?

    Question: Is Crimea provided with water?
    Answer: No.
    Question: How long does it take to resolve the issue?
    Answer: Six years.
    Question: What are the terms set for a complete solution of the issue and supplying the population and industry with water?
    Answer: .........

    That's it.
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 29 July 2020 12: 55 New
      +3
      Crimea will decide the issue of water when and how it does not matter. What does this mean? About the fact that, in principle, the leadership in the twine is now sitting and does not know what to do. Although we could already be engaged in the desalination of sea water.
      1. demo
        demo 29 July 2020 12: 59 New
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        For a week or more he wrote about the technology of obtaining water from the Black Sea hydrogen sulfide.
        The result would be:
        - distilled water;
        -seru;
        -electricity.
        Plus purification of sea water from poison.
        But this is difficult to do ?!
        It's easier than fencing a nuclear power plant.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 29 July 2020 13: 23 New
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          Well, to fight today because of the water is super uneconomical. It is much more profitable to invest money in purification and desalination. This is how this issue is resolved in our country. I don’t think that this is something transcendent for you.
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 July 2020 15: 55 New
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            Colleague Aron Zaavi, thank you very much for the video! Converting a curse to a blessing. "If there is nothing to make good out of, make it out of evil" - this is already from the Strugatskys. The main thing is to find those willing.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 28 New
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            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            I don’t think that this is something transcendent for you.

            this, if not steal
        2. Livonetc
          Livonetc 29 July 2020 13: 31 New
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          This is how to say it.
          If the path of "less resistance" is easier, the nuclear power plant.
          The technology has been fully developed and put practically on stream, even with export.
          And it’s easier.
          NPP technologies have already been popularized for the majority of society.
          I have never heard of the technology you proclaim.
          Please describe the main points of this technology.
          1. demo
            demo 29 July 2020 13: 39 New
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            Seawater is being pumped from a depth of 150 m and below.
            There begins a "dead zone" - the water is saturated with hydrogen sulfide.
            The technology of separating hydrogen sulfide from sea water has been known since 60 years of the last century.
            Hydrogen sulfide decomposes into hydrogen and sulfur.
            Sulfur in the sediment.
            Hydrogen into the furnace.
            Combustion (oxidation) produces electricity and water.
            Seawater purified from hydrogen sulfide back to the sea.
            Developed in the 80s of the last century by scientists from Krasnodar State University (if I am not mistaken).
            The government did not consider his proposal.
            Although all the economic calculations were attached.
            1. kpd
              kpd 29 July 2020 16: 40 New
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              Hydrogen sulfide content maximum 9,6 mg / l of water at a depth of 2000 meters? Is there enough hydrogen sulphide for processing?
              1. demo
                demo 29 July 2020 19: 36 New
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                I can not know.
                Calculations showed that the USSR (and this is the time of the Union) will be able to give up in the European part not only from nuclear power plants, but also from all thermal stations.
                "Raw materials" will last for 500 years.
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 30 July 2020 22: 23 New
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              Quote: demo
              Combustion (oxidation) produces electricity and water.
              Seawater purified from hydrogen sulfide back to the sea

              Just remember to think about what to do with nitrogen oxides. Very unpleasant substances come from burning.
              1. demo
                demo 30 July 2020 23: 11 New
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                Did not forget.
                Compounds of hydrogen with oxygen do not imply the involvement of nitrogen.
                This is by the way.

                Although!
                The combustion of hydrogen is formally expressed by the total reaction:

                2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O
                However, this overall reaction does not describe the branched chain reactions occurring in mixtures of hydrogen with oxygen or air. Eight components are involved in the reactions: H2, O2, H, O, OH, HO2, H2O, H2O2.

                Oxidation is the reaction of oxygen in the air with other substances.

                Oxidation of nitrogen in the air occurs with an increase in the combustion temperature of the mixture above 1400 ° C.
                (if memory serves).
                It is enough to keep the temperature below the limit.
          2. knn54
            knn54 29 July 2020 13: 51 New
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            -From the Ukrainian side, the channel is blocked by multi-ton INACTIVE locking structures that are inoperative, i.e. it is impossible to lift. It is impossible to dismantle - water will spill over the steppe.
            -After six years of inactivity, the channel bed is deformed, the concrete bed collapses, lintels and filters become unusable.
            -Water does not comply with SES standards by almost an order of magnitude.
            As an option, revive the project of the Crimean NPP, which will give energy independence to the Crimea.
            Including e / energy for desalination plants.
            1. Avior
              Avior 29 July 2020 14: 48 New
              +7
              the problem, unfortunately, is not technical capability.
              this dam that blocks the water in the Crimea.

              Technically, opening the water is not a problem, even if you just disassemble
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 29 July 2020 15: 42 New
                +3
                Have you tried to blow it up?
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 27 New
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              Quote: knn54
              As an option, to revive the project of the Crimean NPP,

              this?


      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 July 2020 15: 05 New
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        Quote: 7,62x54
        Crimea will decide the issue of water when and how it does not matter. What does this mean?
        The experience was at the Mangistau nuclear power plant (Shevchenko nuclear power plant) - a nuclear power plant and desalination plant that operated in 1972-1999 in the city of Shevchenko (now Aktau), Kazakhstan. The NPP with an installed electrical capacity of 350 MW, commissioned in 1972, consisted of one BN-350 fast neutron unit. At the time of operation, it was the only nuclear desalination plant in the world, supplying fresh water for the city of Shevchenko in the amount of 120 m³ per day.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 July 2020 15: 09 New
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        Quote: 7,62x54
        About the fact that, in principle, the leadership in the twine is now sitting and does not know what to do.

        Previously, it was necessary to think, when the Sumerians announced the closure of the channel, it was necessary to declare the termination of gas supplies. And do not renew until water is given. And now it is no longer a canal, but a stinking ditch with a ditched infrastructure.
        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 29 July 2020 15: 32 New
          +5
          The leadership of modern Russia plays chess badly, but loves drafts very much, especially Chapaev. Therefore, they do not want and cannot think for the future. The main thing is to get involved in a fight, and then how it goes.
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        2. Andobor
          Andobor 31 July 2020 19: 42 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          it was necessary to declare the termination of gas supplies

          Those who muddied the Maidan, this was what they wanted.
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        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 29 July 2020 19: 25 New
          +1
          As Georges Miloslavsky used to say: "Fie on you again."
      5. Overlock
        Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 23 New
        +5
        Quote: 7,62x54
        ... the leadership in the twine is now sitting and does not know what to do ...

        for 6 years already. Is the twine dragged on?
        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 29 July 2020 19: 26 New
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          This is not a question for me
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 29 New
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            Quote: 7,62x54
            This is not a question for me

            It's clear hi
            There is simply no one to ask a question
      6. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 29 July 2020 21: 30 New
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        well, how would the issue be solved at the expense of catchments, now they are interested in mining from underground rivers ... the idea of ​​desalination of seawater is very expensive, in fact it is necessary to build almost a nuclear power plant on the shore in order to drive fresh water in commercial quantities
    2. snucerist
      snucerist 29 July 2020 16: 36 New
      +5
      Really. Some kind of vinaigrette.
      The author described the fact that Ukraine is dying.
      But what does this have to do with Crimea? To his problems? In particular with water?
      And pearl "How this happens is not important. The ecological system of the peninsula will adapt to the changed conditions" is generally a masterpiece.
      It doesn't matter, gentlemen, how it will happen (and will it happen at all?). You, most importantly, believe. And all will be well. And "The ecological system of the peninsula will adapt to the changed conditions." What the hell is that?
      What if there is a really acute water shortage on the peninsula, and the situation is only getting worse every year? Will a miracle happen?
      Will the wizard arrive in a blue helicopter?
      Where will water come from in Crimea? And how will the "Ecological system of the peninsula adapt to the changed conditions"? A frog thrown into boiling water also adapts in a way to changing conditions. But this adaptation is unlikely to make her life happier.
      Have the author even seen the last Crimean pictures with vegetation? Compare them with those that came before?
      To summarize: the problem with the supply of Crimea exists and is acute. Worst of all, she is diligently hushed up, instead of deciding.
  3. Campanella
    Campanella 29 July 2020 12: 49 New
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    The issue is resolved simply by making a diversion in the upper reaches of the Dnieper and dragging it to the Crimea like a Turkish stream. The Dnieper will become slightly shallower, but this is not critical.
    1. major147
      major147 29 July 2020 13: 07 New
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      Quote: Campanella
      The issue is resolved simply by making a diversion in the upper reaches of the Dnieper and dragging it to the Crimea like a Turkish stream. The Dnieper will become slightly shallower, but this is not critical.

      And detail?
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 29 July 2020 13: 20 New
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        They wanted to make a U-turn in the upper reaches of the Dnieper, only there is no big sense, but it seems to me that it would be more profitable to lay a water supply system.
        But this is my point of view.
        1. Xenofont
          Xenofont 29 July 2020 20: 45 New
          +3
          There was an idea to turn the Desna, the largest tributary of the Dnieper, and channel it into the Don as a canal, and from the Don through a pipe to the Crimea. Cut off the Desna can be done at the very border with the "Tseevropa" and then the Dnieper Khan.
        2. major147
          major147 29 July 2020 21: 18 New
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          Quote: major147
          just make in the upper reaches of the Dnieper, a diversion and dragged to the Crimea

          Wanted

          I heard about Wishlist, I thought they really do it. And it's easier to drive the discharge of the Kuban into a pipe and into the Crimea, but it's expensive ...
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 29 July 2020 22: 58 New
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            No, of course, but why touch the Kuban. It is necessary to treat cheap fraers, they behave like elephants in a china shop. And they think they can get away with it.
      2. Shadow041
        Shadow041 30 July 2020 09: 53 New
        +2
        Here you can see the Don, the Volga-Don Canal and the Volga. Several more canals will be required to divert water from the Russian Federation to the Ukrainian Dnieper. This makes sense, because there is not enough water not only in the Crimea, but also in the Don and Volga. There was a case when several districts of Volgograd were left without water due to the low water level in the Volga.
        1. major147
          major147 30 July 2020 15: 23 New
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          Quote: Shadow041
          in the Don and Volga is not enough.

          There is normal water in the Don, I'm from Rostov.
          Several more canals will be required to divert water from the Russian Federation to the Ukrainian Dnieper.

          But before that, the Dnieper flows through Belarus ...
          1. Phoenix040
            Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 46 New
            +2
            In Rostov, it may be normal, but in the Voronezh region, the Don is very shallow, and in Volgograd there is not enough water. Many rivers flow into the Dnieper from the Russian Federation, and in the Republic of Bashkortostan, they overdid it with soil drainage, in the Gomel region, tornadoes and dry winds, a serious drought in 6 more regions. There is a lot of rain in Belarus this year, but this does not always happen, so there are problems and water is needed for oneself.
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 29 July 2020 15: 43 New
      +3
      It can be seen here full of Banderlog, since they are so actively minus.
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 29 July 2020 19: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Campanella
      The Dnieper will be slightly shallower

      already shallow.

  4. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 29 July 2020 12: 52 New
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    Hurray-patriots today are revealed one by one. "Young man", "Gorby's reforms", and this little scribble. Throw a couple more articles so that there would be a heel.
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  5. glum
    glum 29 July 2020 12: 54 New
    -6
    I don't even know what to comment on ??? From the article it turns out that the climate has changed only on the territory of Ukraine, in certain regions. The author, the climate has changed all over the world and continues to change, and the Dnieper washes away the earth every year, such is the nature of the river. The fact that Crimea is being restored is good, but the fact that it was turned into a military base, as for me, is bad.
    1. greshnik80
      greshnik80 29 July 2020 13: 06 New
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      Dude, Crimea has always been a military base. And in the days of Ukraine - too. Or did you not know?
      1. Annihilator
        Annihilator 29 July 2020 14: 14 New
        +8
        His toad crushes that the outskirts do not receive more money for renting bases for the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Well, it’s their own fault, they didn’t have to jump. Otherwise, they jumped so hard that the Crimea broke away :)))
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 29 July 2020 15: 51 New
          -23
          And you are happy to try to stick a knife in the back, while 25% of Natsiks and monsters seized power, then you quickly figured out how to chop off the territory of Ukraine ...
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 29 July 2020 19: 43 New
            +7
            Quote: LKW Fahrer
            And you are happy to try to stick a knife in the back

            not a knife, but a fire extinguisher. not in the back, but below. not we, but the people of Ukraine themselves ... request
            Quote: LKW Fahrer
            while 25% of the Natsiks and freaks seized power, then you quickly figured out how to chop off the territory of Ukraine ...

            while these 25% were seizing power what were the other 75% doing? their hut on the edge? but, as you can see, not all. the inhabitants of Crimea had the courage and will to secede from the Ukronazis. thanks to the presence of the Russian base, there was no blood. in Donbass they also decided and they defend their choice with weapons. what are you? then wake up about knives and whining backs to somehow justify your insignificance?
            1. 7,62h54
              7,62h54 29 July 2020 19: 54 New
              +7
              Tell me why the Crimea had the courage and it is in Russia? And Donbass decided, but is still fighting? Not enough courage, heroism? Or is the position and actions of the Russian leadership still important?
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 29 July 2020 20: 05 New
                +2
                Quote: 7,62x54
                Tell me why the Crimea had the courage and it is in Russia? And Donbass decided, but is still fighting?

                there is no Russian base request but when the number of Russian citizens reaches a sufficient level, it will be wink
                Quote: 7,62x54
                Or is the position and actions of the Russian leadership still important?

                of course Russia's actions are important.
                what did you want to say? as usual "putinvsekhpredaaaal !!", or something original?
                1. 7,62h54
                  7,62h54 29 July 2020 20: 44 New
                  -1
                  You are a real liberal. Immediately impose some kind of phrase, as if the interlocutor has already said it.
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 29 July 2020 21: 25 New
                    +2
                    Quote: 7,62x54
                    Immediately impose some kind of phrase, as if the interlocutor has already said it.

                    very interesting .. and what phrase did I impose on you? I asked a kind of simple question "what did you want to say?" do you have an answer to it?
              2. truck driver
                truck driver 29 July 2020 20: 13 New
                -13
                I am also interested when Russian patriots will muster up courage and honestly admit that Crimea and Donbass are a special operation of Russia. Do you think Europe, looking into "honest Russian" eyes, is directly touched by Putin's statements that the people themselves decided and separated, that is, in the modern world, in the very center of Europe, a special operation to seize someone else's territory can go unnoticed and this will remain unpunished?
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 29 July 2020 21: 31 New
                  +8
                  Quote: LKW Fahrer
                  Do you think Europe, looking into "honest Russian" eyes, is directly touched by Putin's statements that it was the people who decided and separated themselves,

                  there are the results of the referendum. Europe finds it difficult to argue with the results of democratic instruments request of course there are ukropatriots who "ssy in the eyes all bzhya dew", but they are not Europe and their opinion is of little concern to anyone outside of Ukraine. request
                  Quote: LKW Fahrer
                  those. in the modern world, in the very center of Europe, a special operation to seize someone else's territory can go unnoticed and this will remain unpunished?
                  take the cooler! a special operation to dismember the USSR took place in the very center of Europe! if you don't like such "special operations" then it's time to urgently tie this crap with the "state of Ukraine" and return the territory of Russia wink
                2. oldbuddy
                  oldbuddy 29 July 2020 23: 13 New
                  +2
                  The Washington Post on the line:

                  "After six years and $ 20 billion of Russian investments, Crimeans are satisfied with the annexation of the peninsula by Russia
                  Six years and $ 20 billion in Russian investment later, Crimeans are happy with Russian annexation
                  ....
                  Has attitudes towards annexation changed in 2020 after an estimated $ 20 billion in investment from Moscow and alignment with Russian infrastructure? The short answer is no. The three largest ethnic groups in Crimea are generally satisfied with the direction of events on the peninsula.
                  .
                  Here's what we found: Support for joining Russia remains very high (86% in 2014 and 82% in 2019). It is especially high among ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. A key change since 2014 has been a significant increase in support from Tatars, Muslims of the Turkic group. They make up about 12% of the Crimean population. In 2014, only 39% of this group viewed joining Russia as a positive step, but this figure rose to 58% in 2019. "

                  The Washington Post
                  Six years and $ 20 billion in Russian investment later, Crimeans are happy with Russian annexation
                  By Gerard Toal, John O'Loughlin and Kristin M. Bakke
                  March 18th 2020

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/18/six-years-20-billion-russian-investment-later-crimeans-are-happy-with-russian-annexation/
                3. perm23
                  perm23 31 July 2020 07: 40 New
                  +3
                  What do you mean. and the seizure and partition of Yugoslavia. Europe has swallowed. calmly. And Libya. and Panama. and much more. and all these under the slogan. democracy and freedom and Europe is silent and participates itself
                4. Senka naughty
                  Senka naughty 1 August 2020 05: 00 New
                  +2
                  in the very center of Europe, a special operation to seize someone else's territory can go "unnoticed" and this will remain unpunished?

                  Serbskoe Kosovo is an excellent example for you that this is possible.
                5. Iwan_de
                  Iwan_de 1 August 2020 22: 02 New
                  0
                  What is Europe? The one in Afghanistan or the one in Iraq, Syria or Libya?
          2. Campanella
            Campanella 29 July 2020 22: 55 New
            +7
            In fact, Crimea was originally Russian, so don't.
            In my opinion, Belovezhskaya Pushcha is a betrayal and a crime against all the peoples of the Union.
          3. Shadow041
            Shadow041 30 July 2020 09: 48 New
            +3
            It suited you when the gangs of Korchinsky, Bobrovich, Mazur fought against the Russian Federation in Chechnya, and your country had the audacity to refuse the RF prosecutor's office to extradite these bandits. For the war against the Russian Federation in Ossetia, officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received apartments from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. And now you don't like something ?! There is nothing to blame on the mirror if the face is crooked.
          4. Phoenix040
            Phoenix040 1 August 2020 01: 50 New
            +2
            All your Ukraine on the map of 1654, within the borders of which you came to Russia from Poland, everything else is not yours, but Donbass with Crimea, and even more so. If you are not satisfied with the Nazis in power, get your ass off the couch, take up arms and chase them in the neck. Russia is not obliged to suffer neither because of your Natsiks, nor because of the cowardice and laziness of the Ukrainians sitting on the sofas. Do not drive the Natsiks, so they suit you.
    2. businessv
      businessv 29 July 2020 14: 21 New
      +8
      Quote: Glum
      but the fact that they made a military base out of it, as for me, is bad.

      There has been a naval base in Sevastopol since the moment of its laying. And this is correct and wise, it is not in vain that so much of our and not our blood was shed for him. And it's not for nothing that our overseas "partners" constantly roll their lips at him.
    3. domokl
      30 July 2020 05: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Glum
      but the fact that they made a military base out of it, as for me, is bad.

      arithmetic. During the time of Ukraine, there were about 40 thousand servicemen on the territory of Crimea. Now 35 ... So when was the military base?
    4. gsev
      gsev 2 August 2020 20: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Glum
      From the article it turns out that the climate has changed only on the territory of Ukraine, in certain regions.

      The change in water balance is strongly influenced by the presence of forests. In the absence of a forest, a rapid drainage and desertification of the territory occurs. In Ukraine, they believed that Russia would be defeated in 3-4 years, depriving it of the gas market and convenient Ukrainian transit. A lot of forest and even grass was used for fuel. In Crimea, it is necessary to develop viticulture and water-saving greenhouses. Under the tsar, only horses were allowed to be raised in the arid Kalmyk steppes. They, in contrast to other livestock, destroy the grass cover less. Similarly, agriculture should be rebuilt with an emphasis on moisture conservation, a network of small dams that trap melt water during floods should be created. Few people know that in the first spring after the Ukrainian occupation, there was a flood in Crimea.
  6. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 29 July 2020 12: 57 New
    11
    Crimea will soon completely solve the problem of water. How this happens is not important.

    This is very important. And sometimes such slogans resemble the construction of communism by 1980
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 29 July 2020 16: 48 New
      0
      Important for you and me, but not for the author
  7. prior
    prior 29 July 2020 12: 57 New
    +2
    A war with Ukrainian nationalists is inevitable. In fact, it is already underway.
    Unwillingness to fight does not mean that there is no need to fight.
    Now is the time to declare war on Ukraine, as for me.
    Under the declaration of war - the breaking of all contracts for the supply of gas. And in a month, the Nord Stream will be completed. This is the first thing.
    Second. Accession of Donbass and completion of chewing "Minsk gum".
    Third. Restoration of Russian jurisdiction over historical Russian regions (Novorossiya, Little Russia, Transnistria).
    Fourth. The problem with water for Crimea will be solved immediately and forever.
    Fifth. Return of respect for Russia and respect in the world as a country that has managed to solve its problems.
    And finally. A certain number of Ukrainian nationalist prisoners will not interfere with the rapid restoration of the annexed territories. (The experience of German prisoners of war to help us)
    1. Flamberg
      Flamberg 29 July 2020 12: 59 New
      +6
      6 The Iron Curtain ...
      You have some sort of youthful maximalism ...
      1. prior
        prior 29 July 2020 13: 29 New
        11
        Nope. It was my old age pacifism that leapt.
        The USSR developed under the Iron Curtain, and present-day Russia is a raw material appendage.
        And I never went abroad, and I don’t go. Previously, they were not very allowed, but now they are retired ...
        1. Region68
          Region68 29 July 2020 13: 44 New
          -9
          Where did the USSR develop with the Iron Curtain?
          1. prior
            prior 29 July 2020 13: 50 New
            0
            Or maybe this is when Gorbachev began to open it, I am not confusing anything?
    2. demo
      demo 29 July 2020 13: 23 New
      +7
      Great program!
      True, there is one point.
      How many years do prisoners of Ukrainian nationalists have to work on reconstruction?
      If, like the Germans, ten years, then this was not enough.
      Both the fathers and grandfathers of the nationalists have not "reforged" over the same 10 years.
      Maybe it’s better, then, at the expense? angry
      1. prior
        prior 29 July 2020 13: 31 New
        +1
        Did I really write something about the release of prisoners ?!
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 29 July 2020 16: 00 New
          +3
          Minus minus from me. And I fundamentally disagree about the prisoners of war. Do you think the captive Banderlog will be able to build something? The Germans could. But they could do a lot before being captured. And Banderlog, except how to ride, hold a meeting and destroy nothing, could not. Unteachable. So it won't work.
          1. demo
            demo 29 July 2020 19: 34 New
            +3
            Rent.
            We organize collective farms in the Arctic.
            On the shores of the warm Arctic Ocean.
            We set the task.
            To double the population of polar bears in a year.
            Fodder base from our own resources.
            The remaining 500 are granted life.
            Все.

            And you immediately paws up the hill! Do not hurry.
            The people with proposals will catch up.
            1. perm23
              perm23 31 July 2020 07: 43 New
              +1
              but first we must still break and conquer. and then count the prisoners. one general stated. that the men in trousers can do nothing against the Soviet army. but they could.
              1. demo
                demo 31 July 2020 09: 26 New
                0
                To be honest, I don't feel like fighting.
                But there are situations when you can't do without it.
                I feel that such a thing will come in my lifetime when I have to pick up a machine gun.
      2. Region68
        Region68 29 July 2020 13: 45 New
        +1
        Oh, the prisoners are already being divided ..
        Not too early?
    3. businessv
      businessv 29 July 2020 13: 31 New
      +9
      Quote: prior
      Return of respect for Russia and respect in the world as a country that has managed to solve its problems.
      This, like everything you described, will be possible only in the event of a complete change in the internal policy of our country. The current government will never compromise the interests of oligarchs and bureaucrats.
      1. prior
        prior 29 July 2020 13: 51 New
        +2
        Well, they took it and all my dreams "lit up" ...
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 29 July 2020 15: 55 New
          -5
          In the event of Russia's aggression against Ukraine, I'm afraid Europe will stop buying Russian gas altogether, and will completely reorient itself to LNG.
          1. sevryuk
            sevryuk 29 July 2020 17: 40 New
            +1
            And in the case of the reunification of the BUSSR and the BRSFSR, how will it behave?
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 29 July 2020 14: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: prior
        Return of respect for Russia and respect in the world as a country that has managed to solve its problems.

        -only after the occupation of Switzerland.
    4. Annihilator
      Annihilator 29 July 2020 14: 17 New
      +6
      To solve Russia's problems, some of the economic bloc need to be imprisoned, regardless of the subsequent squeals of the Naglo-Saxons.
    5. Kronos
      Kronos 29 July 2020 14: 52 New
      +3
      If you start a war, the northern stream will be turned off forever.
    6. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 29 July 2020 20: 35 New
      +1
      Speak everything right. But it should have been done 6 years ago. Then, on the wave of the Crimean spring, they would have jumped to the Dnieper at least. Nobody wanted to start a war, and the sanctions would be the same as now. But at the same time, Russia would have grown in territory, population, industry, sales market, and, importantly, it would move the border with NATO to the west. And now there will be a war. For 6 years many were brainwashed there.
      1. perm23
        perm23 31 July 2020 07: 47 New
        -1
        Sorry, but you look like a commander. which has no data about the enemy. not about your rear. throws a unit into battle .. How do you know what happened then and how. ... you don't have to see the war just from your trench.
        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 31 July 2020 07: 52 New
          +1
          Good morning to you.
          Those. Do you want to say that now the situation is more favorable to a military conflict and Russia has more chances to emerge victorious?
          1. perm23
            perm23 31 July 2020 07: 57 New
            -1
            Good morning . I'm talking about that. what we don't know. what and how it was then. and now .. we simply do not have such data. How NATO would behave then and how Ukrainians would behave. so could we quickly defeat the Ukrainian army. I do not want to guess on the coffee grounds .. without data. ...
    7. Rzzz
      Rzzz 30 July 2020 22: 27 New
      0
      Quote: prior
      A certain number of prisoners from Ukrainian nationalists will not interfere with the rapid restoration of the annexed territories

      Well, in general, forced labor in our time is prohibited by international conventions and the legislation of the Russian Federation.
  8. Operator
    Operator 29 July 2020 13: 00 New
    -8
    It's simple - to block the upper reaches of the Dnieper on the Russian-Belarusian border and transfer the Dnieper water to the Don, and then via an underwater pipeline to the Crimea.

    Belarus will get by with water from the tributaries of the Dnieper on its territory by blocking the middle course of the Dnieper on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border.
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 29 July 2020 20: 37 New
      +1
      After today's story with the Wagnerites near Minsk, one can forget about Belarus as a partner in the confrontation with Ukraine.
      1. Operator
        Operator 29 July 2020 21: 01 New
        0
        As for the "Wagnerites" in a sanatorium near Minsk, there is an opinion that Lukashenka himself invited them to Belarus, having signed a contract to disperse demonstrations, and then threw them not childishly.
        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 29 July 2020 21: 12 New
          0
          Maybe you are right. Why only Prilep Zakharkin pointed to his former colleagues.
          1. Operator
            Operator 29 July 2020 21: 16 New
            +2
            Zakhara's next self-promotion "on blood".
  9. Andylw
    Andylw 29 July 2020 13: 03 New
    +5
    "Crimea will soon completely solve the problem of water. How this happens is not important."
    This is exactly what is important.
    The answer is not going to solve it.
    Conclusion - the closure of industrial enterprises (primarily titanium), abandonment of agriculture in favor of sheep breeding.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 13: 33 New
      -18
      so let them grow lambs than rice
    2. Annihilator
      Annihilator 29 July 2020 14: 20 New
      +6
      Weaving sheep already on the Maidan were engaged in various bespectacled people, and not unsuccessfully. There were several tens of millions of rams.
  10. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 29 July 2020 13: 13 New
    13
    Has the author been to Crimea recently, and if so, where?
    I haven't been, but I regularly call my former work colleague. He lives in Sovetskiy. This is not a resort South Coast and there are no priorities for it.
    Rice growing "died" as well as viticulture. On an industrial scale. In people near houses, the vine grows.
    Everybody made wells for themselves. Enough for a family, but agricultural ... That's it! I don’t know which cultures do not require water from the author’s words. Even in Turkmenistan, everything is permeated with ditches.
    Yes, and from his words, I understand that the Black Sea is different in the Crimea and the Kherson region? Does it bloom there, does it not bloom there? Or do we just want to see only what we want?
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 13: 34 New
      -13
      Rice growing Krasnodar region in the same place and vineyards
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 29 July 2020 13: 55 New
        +3
        Talk about Crimea.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 14: 27 New
          -10
          this is because the former agriculture is no longer possible in Crimea
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 29 July 2020 14: 31 New
      +2
      Yes, and from his words, I understand that the Black Sea is different in the Crimea and the Kherson region?


      We also bloom from time to time.
  11. TAMBU
    TAMBU 29 July 2020 13: 20 New
    +2
    If not difficult, give a link to the materials regarding the renewal of production in the Crimea. Thank.
  12. businessv
    businessv 29 July 2020 13: 25 New
    +5
    Will the Dnieper water be needed on the peninsula? Is it really necessary to change everything again? The question has not been answered yet ...
    Alexander, thanks for the article! Water is needed if we develop housing, recreation and agriculture in Crimea. To be honest, we, ordinary residents, here do not really suffer from the lack of water from the Dnieper so far, but the agrarians certainly suffer. They had to urgently change the assortment, test new varieties of products and many other things, and the livestock breeders had to urgently look for a way out of the situation after the canal was closed, but they found it while there was enough. I think that if it really squeezes, then the way out is not in the war with the Square over the canal, but in laying pipes from the mainland. If thousands of kilometers of pipes were laid to Europe, then there should not be a big problem with their laying from the Don to the Crimea.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 29 July 2020 13: 42 New
      +3
      I don't think we need to fight for the channel. But it is worthwhile to combine the laying of pipes from the Don and figure out some kind of analogue of the Israeli desalination technology. In the first case, this is infrastructure and new, with a margin. In the second case, it is science and technology, with their own. And this and that we need
      1. businessv
        businessv 29 July 2020 14: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: NDR-791
        In the second case, it is science and technology, with their own. And this and that we need
        Desalination has long been engaged in the world, the Emirates have been very closely involved in this problem. It turns out very expensive! I don’t know how it is now, but when I was there, a liter of water was exactly twice as expensive as fuel. smile
  13. bulava
    bulava 29 July 2020 13: 33 New
    -9
    There will be no war. They will give us everything themselves.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 29 July 2020 15: 03 New
      0
      Quote: bulava
      They will give us everything themselves.

      Do not! bully
  14. Siberian54
    Siberian54 29 July 2020 14: 17 New
    -1
    There is Don, there is a Kuban-water pipeline through Azov and that's it, there is simply no money and no political decision yet .. By the way, if there are specialists on the branch, is it possible to remove the top of the Kuban floods in this way?
    1. businessv
      businessv 29 July 2020 14: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Siberian54
      is it possible to shoot the top of the Kuban floods in this way?
      To do this, you need to know the main causes of floods and study statistics. As a rule, the withdrawal of water from the flow channel does not directly affect the floods, but it can reduce their intensity and the area of ​​flooding with a high capacity of the water supply system and the distance of water transmission, just like in our case.
    2. kpd
      kpd 29 July 2020 16: 48 New
      +4
      A water pipeline from the Kuban has already been proposed - the first who said "no" were the authorities of the Krasnodar Territory, the motivation "they themselves have little water for agriculture."
  15. Radius
    Radius 29 July 2020 14: 25 New
    -5
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    tomatoes grow great. Regular watering is even contraindicated for them.


    Every single day requires watering.

    Maximum once every 7-10 days. But abundantly. Even for Crimea, this is not a problem. And in the fields, they don't really get watered and they grow beautiful ketchup!
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 14: 28 New
      -2
      Yes? I water every day and grow normally
      1. truck driver
        truck driver 29 July 2020 16: 04 New
        -2
        Watering tomatoes is critically necessary at the seedling level for at least 2-3 weeks, as soon as the main stem hardens, then yes you can do without regular watering, repeated watering is necessary in the first month of growth.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 29 July 2020 16: 11 New
          +1
          I agree I water a little but almost every day, in Sochi this summer it is very hot, under 40 heat
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 29 July 2020 21: 41 New
      +3
      Watered tomatoes every 7 days? Tell us what kind?
  16. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 29 July 2020 14: 42 New
    +6
    And what about us? Let's start with industry. President Putin recently attended the laying of two large ships. Russia has revived the shipbuilding of the Crimea.
    It will be possible to talk about the revival when these ships are handed over. For the ships "Volga" and "Vyatka", which were laid there earlier, are still on the stocks, and two tankers for the Navy of Project 23131, laid down at the end of 2014, were completely lost. Proof here https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3395728.html wassat
    Old Soviet technologies were replaced with modern ones. No fanfare, no noisy festivities, no loud statements at a high level. We just created a new production.
    That is, they took and replaced some "technologies" with new and modern ones, and they pounded so to speak bully ... it is felt that the author has worked for many years in production
    It is not yet possible to say that Crimeans ride like cheese in butter. Difficult, difficult, but already profitable. Perhaps this is how you can describe peasant labor on the peninsula.

    Tell me today a region of Russia where there would be no products of the Crimean peasants. And in general the products of the Crimean production. There is a sales market, which means there is an incentive to increase production. This means that the Crimean agriculture is also switching to modern production that does not require a large amount of water.
    And no specifics, it was just not profitable, but it became profitable! What have now begun to produce the Crimean peasants throughout the country, the author does not specify ?!
    Crimea will soon completely solve the problem of water. How this happens is not important.
    The author solved the water problem with a stroke of the pen. Everything will be like - it doesn't matter! The laws of physics are not his decree. Immediately the classic is remembered
    The sergeant-general looked at Schweik with a friendly look. He calmly and with dignity replied: - But still, I'm going to Budejovice. It sounded stronger than "but still it turns!", Because Galileo, no doubt, uttered his phrase in a state of intense passion.
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 29 July 2020 14: 53 New
    0
    You can, of course, hope to win someone ... but you can learn to live in a situation as it is.
  18. fa2998
    fa2998 29 July 2020 15: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Radius
    And the population can be provided with water

    I totally agree! Half of the world's population lives WORSE than Crimeans. Deserts and semi-deserts, plateaus and mountains. In terms of precipitation, too, in the middle, there are many places where a third of rain does not fall, but they do not die out! Moreover, many arid countries have turned into tourist ones. " Mecca ", and leaders in agricultural production - Spain, Israel, the Persian Gulf countries - enough for millions of tourists. Just have a head and not grow rice.
  19. 123456789
    123456789 29 July 2020 17: 08 New
    -2
    Any kind of blockade, even directed exclusively against civilians, in accordance with international law, is considered a type of hostilities and is qualified as a war crime.
  20. 123456789
    123456789 29 July 2020 17: 31 New
    -4
    Quote: Kronos
    If you start a war then

    do not stop before the English Channel and after the English Channel also do not stop, as before Tbilisi
  21. sevryuk
    sevryuk 29 July 2020 17: 34 New
    -5
    Quote: snucerist
    The author described the fact that Ukraine is dying.

    What do you mean by "Ukraine"? A Polish-Austro-American project?
  22. 123456789
    123456789 29 July 2020 18: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: prior
    A war with Ukrainian nationalists is inevitable. In fact, it is already underway.

    No, we will wait until they collect a nuclear bomb, albeit dirty,
  23. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 29 July 2020 18: 48 New
    -4
    as the old woman with a scythe said about Russia - their nuclear bomb, well, we just use this whole dam with an ordinary bomb and don't care the bees, there are sanctions on us that there are fleas on the bug
  24. bar
    bar 29 July 2020 18: 48 New
    +2
    Desalination and other negative phenomena in this bay have already led to a sharp decrease in the number of marine life in this part of the Black Sea.

    Of course it's a pity for Bychkov. But I wonder how they lived there before they dug the canal?

    Moreover, river water washes away the territory of Ukraine.

    A terrible thing. But it seems that the Dnieper flowed where it flows, and flowed into the Black Sea where it has been flowing for more than one hundred years. How did he not wash away all of Ukraine in the pre-channel times?
    Ukrovlast, I also do not arouse any sympathy, but writing such bloopers is still nekomilfo. negative
  25. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 29 July 2020 21: 32 New
    +1
    But from this place in more detail.
    "Numerous statements of the political and military leadership of Russia give a clear understanding that at the present time the issue of water on the peninsula does not arise."
    In the sense?! .. Applicants do not live in Crimea as a rule. And how do they know what is really here?
    "Crimea will soon completely solve the problem of water. How this happens is not important. The ecological system of the peninsula will adapt to the changed conditions. Naturally, there will be some climate change in Crimea. And Crimeans will learn to live without any discomfort in conditions of limited consumption water."
    In terms of?!..
    How soon will my village Primorskiy and Feodosiya completely solve the problem with water? We have already returned to the water supply schedules.
    Guys, you don’t know a thing about Crimea, but you take up writing about it.
    It's really funny to read .... To the locals.
  26. 72jora72
    72jora72 29 July 2020 22: 02 New
    +2
    Russians, for the same money that they leave in Crimea, can quite safely rest in other countries.
    Not for the same, but cheaper.
  27. And why do you need
    And why do you need 29 July 2020 23: 12 New
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    A question to the author, what exactly is there from the products of the Crimean peasants in all regions of the country? About the Far East in particular? Vegetables fruits? So here, basically everything is from China. "Wine"? Except as a chat, it can not be called, at what in a different price range.
  28. Alanart
    Alanart 30 July 2020 00: 14 New
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    Anyone in the know about the cloud-plane "accelerator" that was supposed to insidiously make the rains fall over Crimea and not reach mainland Ukraine? Is it a hat, or is there something else?
    1. Shadow041
      Shadow041 30 July 2020 09: 40 New
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      There is such an aircraft, now used in Siberia to extinguish forest fires. It was reported that in the Crimea they decided to use artillery to cause rain, which would hit the clouds with shells with silver iodide.
  29. Egor53
    Egor53 30 July 2020 00: 33 New
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    "Moreover, river water washes away the territory of Ukraine."
    What nonsense! For millions of years, the Dnieper water flowed into the Black Sea, when there was no trace of the Crimean canal. And no territory was washed away.
    Ecological terrorists have spread unmeasured. Green trash divorced beyond measure.
  30. Egor53
    Egor53 30 July 2020 00: 37 New
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    Crimea had to be annexed to Russia in the territory of the Tauride province - i.e. together with the Kherson region. Better yet, together with the whole of Novorossia and Little Russia.
  31. sla1372
    sla1372 30 July 2020 07: 56 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Who will win the "war" for water in Crimea
    If there is anything to be fought for, it is for the minds of the people and for the people in general. And then both water and earth, everything will arrive

    what are you talking about ????? what minds ??? they are lost people !!!!! I still remember from my service in the Soviet army how an ordinary Ukrainian, not even a Westerner, treated Russians with very great disdain and kept showing me that he was not Russian. I did not understand then how one country speaks Russian and does not consider itself as such and it all started not in 2014, but much earlier, so no one can remake them, and why should they themselves sip a bowl of everything that they wished for Russians and RUSSIA maybe then they will understand who is their friend and who is their enemy
  32. Shadow041
    Shadow041 30 July 2020 09: 35 New
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    Taking into account that the Russian Federation is not obliged to supply Ukraine with water from its rivers, and in the Republic of Bashkortostan they were too clever with the drainage of lands, as a result of which tornadoes and dry winds were noted in the Gomel region, the drought struck about 10 more regions, then Ukraine, having cut off water to Crimea, is digging his own grave and will soon bite his elbows on the banks of the rapidly shallowing Dnieper. There is a lot of rain in Belarus this year, but it will not always be so, and Minsk will be forced to cut off the water in order to solve its problems.
  33. Doomph
    Doomph 30 July 2020 13: 15 New
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    What's the problem for Crimea? Water flowed through the canal from 1963 to 2014, but how did Crimea manage the rest of the time? Over the centuries!!!
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 31 July 2020 00: 15 New
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      Quote: Doomph
      What's the problem for Crimea?

      maybe in this

      but for centuries the population of Crimea was generally poorly engaged in anything other than trade and raids. (moreover, trade was a human commodity)
      And then, under RI, purely trade and tourism began.
      But with the channel, the rapid development of the agro-industrial complex and industry went.
      By the way, even with the channel there were problems in the water until 2013. Well, after hearing the peninsula. Such is the climate. Water resources even in the country were not enough, and the Crimea itself is arid.
      There was always a shortage of water there. And there you always want to drink. In Simferopol, I did not want to leave Tavrichesky University. Everywhere you had to drag her with you.
      And industry needs a lot of water. Cheap. And the agro-industrial complex.
  34. Rzzz
    Rzzz 30 July 2020 23: 08 New
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    Putin attended the laying of two large ships. Russia has revived the shipbuilding of the Crimea. Such production requires, among other things, a fairly large amount of industrial water.


    I don’t even know, maybe the author knows something new in new shipbuilding technologies, but at a large shipbuilding enterprise with several thousand workers, I see two places where a lot of water is consumed:
    1. There are so many people in the dishwashing canteen after dinner.
    2. In showers and toilets.

    Where else you can spend a lot - I don't even understand. In ship repair shops, water is also used in high-pressure washers, which clean the hulls from shells and algae. Where else?
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 31 July 2020 00: 21 New
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      Quote: rzzz
      Such production requires, among other things, a fairly large amount of industrial water.

      Titanium industry, soda industry. Food industry.
      They consume a lot in the technological process. And you need cheap water.
      Since Ukrainian times, the main consumer of water has been the dairy industry.
      The total cost of water in dairy processing plants in 2013 was estimated at 7,2 million UAH, which is approximately 0,5% of the total cost of processing. In milk processing, water is mainly used for heating, cooling, rinsing and cleaning.
      By comparison, the most efficient dairies in the United States use 1 liter of water per kg of processed milk, and the industry average uses 1 liters per kg. For the processing of Ukrainian dairy products, on average, 2 liters of water are consumed per kilogram of processed milk.
      Most of the water in milk processing plants is lost during cleaning. The main overconsumption of water occurs due to excessive cleaning of products.

      Crimea is not only Kerch (by the way, the driest place in Crimea)
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 31 July 2020 19: 28 New
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        Quote: Cristall
        Titanium industry, soda industry. Food industry

        The conversation was only about shipbuilding.
  35. Cresta999
    Cresta999 1 August 2020 09: 45 New
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    Article in the style of "hurray patriotism" 100 percent. Some new technologies for water extraction, Soviet chicken coops were replaced with something new ... By the way, I am writing now from the Crimea. And I write from the "chicken coop", because I go to Crimea for wildlife, and not in luxury hotels. How many. The article is not specific. Some slogans. Minus.
  36. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 1 August 2020 16: 13 New
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    The water of the Kuban river flows, where the Bolsheviks tell
  37. itis
    itis 1 August 2020 20: 40 New
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    "humanity is not threatened with destruction.
    a person gets used to everything "
    but the channel needs to be opened in the future, especially looking at the reasons (and causal closure).
    Crimea is yours!
  38. Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 1 August 2020 21: 58 New
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    Quote: LKW Fahrer
    In the event of Russia's aggression against Ukraine, I'm afraid Europe will stop buying Russian gas altogether, and will completely reorient itself to LNG.

    The trouble is that you were not altered, but you were altered. And someone really wants to be smeared, as a result of which, it will be possible to point a finger at us. But you will be gone. And is that interesting to you?
  39. GennadyLev
    GennadyLev 4 August 2020 02: 41 New
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    In 30 years, the climate in Crimea will change a lot and there will be a lot of water. It makes no sense to conflict with Ukraine over this. A new Ice Age 2100 will begin on Earth in 2100. I have proof of this
  40. nikant
    nikant 4 August 2020 09: 44 New
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    I'm afraid for the worst scenario according to Zhirinovsky ... if they give a command to shut off the upper reaches of the Dnieper and other sources, then all of Ukraine will be in an interesting situation ... and then who will laugh?
  41. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 4 August 2020 11: 15 New
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    Maybe we should take an example from China?
    even in the driest regions, agriculture is well developed. Therefore, they also bring good profits to their country. And the yield can be increased simply by providing the territory with the required amount of water. Now the northern province of Shandong receives about two billion cubic meters of water a year thanks to this river turning project.

    Three large canals have already been built. Work on the main one, the Eastern one, continued for eleven years. After that, it was immediately put into operation in order to transport about a billion cubic meters of clean fresh water a year to the northern regions on an ongoing basis. As for the Central Canal, it was started from scratch only at the beginning of this century. Therefore, it was more difficult and time-consuming to build it. It was planned that it will appear in 2008, but this date had to be postponed. Now the canal is only being improved so that by the thirtieth year it will be possible to transport more fresh water to the north. The approximate volume is 12 billion cubic meters per year. True, for this it is necessary to look for an additional source of fresh water. For example, a deep reservoir. And finally, the last canal is now only at the construction stage. Since the project is designed for several decades, it is not surprising that the construction of the Western Canal is planned to be completed only in 2050. Work on the previous canals went much faster as the terrain was not so “problematic”. Here workers will have to climb the mountains and build a canal at a height. Nobody has done anything like this yet. Therefore, some people still doubt that this is really real.

    http://www.laovaev.net/v-kitae-osushhestvili-proekt-po-perenosu-vody-s-yuga-na-sever/







    You can forget about the North Crimean Canal.
    Another option is water intake from the Don and the laying of 3-4 large-diameter pipelines along the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov to the Azov Canal, which is connected to the North Crimean Canal. Of course, water will not go uphill, pumping stations are needed for pumping through the pipeline, the restructuring of the canal system in Crimea.
    About 400 km distance of which 3/5 of the way along the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov.
    Of course it is expensive, but it is much cheaper than the construction of the North Crimean Canal.
    More economically viable than the unfilled Turkish Stream