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Japanese readers: Russia can give up the islands if it falls apart like the USSR

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Japanese readers: Russia can give up the islands if it falls apart like the USSR

Japanese media continue to exaggerate the topic related to the Kuril Islands. Japanese newspapers never leave the pages with different opinions on "how to return the islands to Tokyo's jurisdiction." An article of a similar focus was published in the Hokkaido Shimbun edition.


The editors of the edition (and the article was published on behalf of the editors) urge the authorities of the country to prevent them from "postponing the issue of the islands on the back burner." At the same time, the publication continues (in the Japanese "tradition") to call the Russian Kuriles "northern territories".
The authors write that Russia "every time demonstrates its unwillingness to discuss the territorial problem."

For its part, it should be noted that everything is correct - after all, Russia has no territorial problems, and if someone, including Japan, has them, then this is their internal affair ...

The Japanese media note that the Japanese authorities "should not agree to play with only one goal," otherwise "it will be difficult to build truly friendly relations between the countries."

Additionally, it is said about the Constitution of Russia. It was noted that "the wording of the Basic Law that Russia is the legal successor of the USSR practically nullified the earlier efforts to reach agreements."

From the material:

Now what? - the only way is to complete the discussion on the transfer of the four islands. Now for Putin, even if he showed goodwill, there is no way to transfer these islands, since the Russian Constitution prohibits the alienation of lands. And Putin himself said that the content of the Constitution fully corresponds to the wishes of the Russian people. This means only one thing: for Putin, domestic political positions are much more important than building relations with Japan.

A strange statement. It is as if relations with Russia are more important than domestic political positions for the Japanese authorities.

Further in the Japanese media it is said that, despite the situation, Shinzo Abe "could seek an adjustment of the Russian position on the northern territories." It is also noted that the Japanese authorities "do not know how to do this."

The comments of Japanese readers to this article in Hokkaido Shimbun smack of blatant militarism. In particular, there are appeals to "take the islands by force," as well as statements that "no good-neighborly relations are possible with Russia." One of the readers writes that Russia "can give up the islands if it collapses itself - like the USSR."
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  1. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 29 July 2020 07: 46
    15
    as it already becomes boring. the next clowns amuse themselves with the hope of the collapse of the country. boring girls! boring)
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 07: 58
      25
      Quote: carstorm 11
      as it already becomes boring. the next clowns amuse themselves with the hope of the collapse of the country. boring girls! boring)

      It's boring, but one must keep an eye out: not only Japan is interested in the collapse of Russia on the model of the collapse of the USSR, but also the unjustly enriched Russian nouveau riche who do not want to answer for their actions. The bow can be dangerous. hi
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 29 July 2020 08: 03
        +4
        unjustly enriched Russian nouveau riche who do not want to answer for their actions.

        They have already ruined everything that the "owner" ordered. The rest is sold out. hi
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 July 2020 09: 37
          +1
          Quote: lexus
          They have already ruined everything that the "owner" ordered.

          In 1917 and 1991? There was a case. Who's the boss?
          1. krot
            krot 29 July 2020 11: 39
            -1
            since the Constitution of Russia prohibits the alienation of land

            Here even the Japanese understand the quality of the changes in our constitution .. And here the locals shout that Putin rewrote the constitution "for himself". Conclusion, our liberals are against the integrity and independence of the country!
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 29 July 2020 12: 19
              +1
              Quote: krot
              Here even the Japanese understand the quality of the changes to our constitution.

              Here we have an interesting feature. You cannot alienate your territories, but you can demarcate someone else's and immediately appoint your government
            2. English tarantas
              English tarantas 30 July 2020 18: 39
              +1
              Go home, boot. And earlier it was impossible to alienate. And why should the Japanese suddenly understand a lot in the laws of other countries? Do you understand a lot in Japanese?
        2. NIKN
          NIKN 29 July 2020 11: 51
          +4
          Russia “every time demonstrates its unwillingness to discuss territorial problem».

          And Russia has no territorial problems! Solve your problems yourself.
          And what from empty to empty to pour? Everything has already been decided, If the Japanese do not understand this, then in general what can you talk about with them, There are platforms where you can cry in your waistcoat, someone will say, "Well, don't cry, everything will be fine, we will give them something that would not offend our Japan .. "and pat on the head, although it is not sweet there either, no matter how blacks are evicted to Japan. :))
          1. Crash
            Crash 29 July 2020 13: 00
            +5
            And Russia has no territorial problems!

            I somehow wrote the same. They showered me with cons winked
            1. NIKN
              NIKN 29 July 2020 13: 06
              +8
              Quote: Crasher
              They showered me with cons

              The wave passed the minus, later they will come back and they will throw me down, it's okay for them to earn money, maybe the family is starving. laughing
              PS: Never mind, there are normal people here.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 July 2020 09: 03
        0
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        The bow can be dangerous.

        In 1991, only the states and Britain were the main crumbling force, and now there are so many jackals around, wherever you look, their fangs stick out, just have time to crumble.
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 July 2020 09: 36
        0
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        in the collapse of Russia on the model of the collapse of the USSR, not only Japan is interested, but also the unjustly enriched Russian nouveau riche who do not want to answer for their actions.

        ??
        Uh ... not very logical.
        On the contrary, the "nouveau riche" needs a state as strong as possible.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 10: 41
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          ??
          Uh ... not very logical.
          On the contrary, the "nouveau riche" needs a state as strong as possible.

          The logic is simple: there is no state, and there are no laws, for violation of which in the process of enrichment one would have to answer sooner or later. Some of those who actively destroyed the USSR also had this motivation. The "nouveau riches" need not just a strong state, but a state in which the irremovability of the power that covers them is guaranteed. hi
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 July 2020 10: 43
            +5
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            The logic is simple: no state, no laws

            No state, no money.
            But there are a bunch of those who are ready to profit from the property ...
            Do they need it?
            And even in the absence of laws, it is difficult to discern any advantages for businessmen.
            The nouveau riche are fond of stability, a strong state and the lack of the possibility of "revising the results of privatization"



            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            but a state in which the irremovability of the power that covers them is guaranteed.

            For this, it is enough to have an opposition, as in Russia.
            Foolish, greedy and cowardly
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 29 July 2020 12: 56
              0
              Quote: Spade
              For this, it is enough to have an opposition, as in Russia.
              Foolish, greedy and cowardly

              good good good
      4. common man
        common man 29 July 2020 11: 44
        -1
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        in the collapse of Russia on the model of the collapse of the USSR, not only Japan is interested, but also the unjustly enriched Russian nouveau riche who do not want to answer for their actions.

        Among the nouveau riche can only expect that if Russia loses its sovereignty, they will keep their "unjustly acquired". Although we and "" in the 90s were insanely rich.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 08: 12
      +7
      Russia can give up the islands if it falls apart like the USSR
      Japan will give up islands if it dives into the ocean repeat but it is quite possible (film "The Fall of Japan") repeat
      1. v.biseroff
        v.biseroff 29 July 2020 09: 09
        +9
        WELL WHY SO APOCALYPTIC - it is quite possible to assume that Japan, out of its garbage, is making 5 more such islands blind, somewhere along the western coast of Hokkaido. They need our islands to open the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, as an internal Russian one.
        ,
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 11: 56
          0
          Quote: v.biseroff
          it is quite possible to assume that Japan blinds 5 more such islands from its garbage,

          this is true, but they need rare earth metals, the extraction of which they dream of organizing. recourse
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 29 July 2020 14: 26
          0
          Quote: v.biseroff
          They need our islands to open the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, as an internal Russian one.

          The states are also interested in this.
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          they need rare earth metals, the extraction of which they dream of organizing.

          If you need REM, then don’t invest in geo-prospecting on their territory as they did on their own USSR.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 29 July 2020 14: 40
            0
            I think that Japanese geologists have dug everything up and down, including the shelf, and everything that could be found has already been found.
      2. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 29 July 2020 10: 09
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Russia can give up the islands if it falls apart like the USSR
        Japan will give up islands if it dives into the ocean repeat but it is quite possible (film "The Fall of Japan") repeat

        If Japan begins to plunge into the ocean, Japanese refugees will head for the shores of Russia. Since the Jews abandoned the Jewish Autonomous Region, it could become the Japanese Autonomous Region. laughing
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 11: 53
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Since the Jews abandoned the Jewish Autonomous Region, it could become the Japanese Autonomous Region.

          fool Never, from the word at all. Perhaps only the Birobidzhan region. request
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      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 July 2020 09: 43
        10
        Quote: Wowka
        RF is bursting at the seams

        Yeah, it's been a decade ...
        laughing laughing laughing
        And you and your colleagues are still waiting for its collapse in half a year
        laughing laughing laughing
        1. Wowka
          Wowka 29 July 2020 09: 59
          27 th
          Quote: Spade
          Yeah, it's been a decade ...

          Well, Ukraine was "buried" here every two months at VO.
          Well, at the beginning of 2014, the Russian Federation, on the remains of expensive petrodollars, was ahead of the rest of the world for free without producing anything to live off natural resources.
          Now the time has changed. All. There are no more freebies.
          Well, people in Russia are apparently tired of 20-year-old lies.
          So .. Whose cow would bellow, and yours would be silent? laughing
          Soon this house of cards built on "pseudo" trust and "pseudo" friendship will crumble. I would also like to look at the breakaway of Chechnya, these "loyal" comrades))
          Well, the Far East, Siberia, the Urals - so they are generally fine - everything is there, break away and live and grow rich, and do not pay tribute to Moscow.
          So the chances for the Russian Federation to remain as is 0 percent.
          This is fun! wassat
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 July 2020 10: 04
            +9
            Quote: Wowka
            Well, Ukraine was "buried" here every two months at VO.

            And she's gone.
            Territory 404.
            On which the authorities allegedly cannot even defend a monopoly on violence, is the cornerstone of any state.

            Quote: Wowka
            Well early 2014

            Russia could not be destroyed in 1994, Russia could not be destroyed in 1998, so your masters have ... their chance ..
            I remember on one resource in 2008 your colleague, choking with delight, squealed that "Russia has a couple of months left" when the price of oil fell from a hundred to sixty
            wassat
            1. Wowka
              Wowka 29 July 2020 10: 14
              20 th
              Quote: Spade
              And she's gone.
              Territory 404.

              Well, it "pops up" here with obvious frequency .. heard already))
              Only here is something somehow, but Ukraine is, and the Russian Federation will soon be that-this .. it will be possible to play Chopin's "waltz" in a big way - about the Urals to the Far East)))
              Good luck in wet thoughts)))
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 July 2020 10: 22
                +5
                Quote: Wowka
                Well, it "pops up" here with obvious frequency .. heard already))

                Of course you did.
                It lies on the surface

                Quote: Wowka
                Only something is somehow, but Ukraine is

                There is no it. It's over.
                The territory remained. And even that is not entirely.
                laughing laughing laughing
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          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 29 July 2020 10: 15
            0
            she had buried herself long ago. and I personally don’t digest the Living Dead series
      2. Squelcher
        Squelcher 29 July 2020 09: 48
        +6
        dumkoyu radio, her wine and bagatie.
        Will you get tired in the attack?
      3. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 29 July 2020 10: 11
        +5
        Quote: Wowka
        I would like to see the pieces of the empire. I hope that soon horns and legs will remain from the Russian Federation.

        As they say in your homeland: "Duren dumkoyu bagatiє".
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      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 29 July 2020 10: 14
        +6
        so have fun) another horse has come to dream of another change)
      5. Xenofont
        Xenofont 29 July 2020 10: 28
        +7
        Come on, burn, ragulek! Throw in the coal. Your dung non-state has already collapsed.
      6. Ren
        Ren 29 July 2020 10: 38
        +5
        Quote: Wowka
        We are waiting, from the ruins ...

        Wait, wait from your ruins ... wassat
      7. Inorus
        Inorus 29 July 2020 11: 31
        0
        [/ Quote]
        Quote: Wowka
        [quote = carstorm 11] amuse themselves with the hope of the collapse of the country. boring girls! boring

        And I'm having fun! )))
        The Russian Federation is bursting at the seams, people in the Russian Federation have played enough of the Kremlin games and they want to live and not exist in a thieves' impoverished country.
        I would like to see the pieces of the empire. I hope that soon horns and legs will remain from the Russian Federation.
        And to all those who "joined" the Russian Federation - it will be amusing to look at their remnants of smiles, twisted with anger - stones from the sky, and more.
        We are waiting, from the ruins ...

        Not in your lifetime. So put the flag in your hands, the drum on your back, and a fair wind!
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    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 July 2020 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: carstorm 11
      regular clowns

      Not so clowns ...
      Will finance the next rr-revolutionaries, and it's in the bag.
      They easily sacrifice territories for the sake of power, of which Russia has many examples.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 29 July 2020 10: 22
        0
        Well, there will be a couple of toxic blabla more. in my opinion, everyone is already so used to them that they do not pay special attention. well, like in Ha now. envoys from open Russia are running around and navalnata and hodor. all the pancakes are waiting for when they will start twisting)
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 29 July 2020 09: 56
      0
      Now, they ran to please the Japanese to fall apart fool We lace up our galoshes, and at a gallop, jump up this very Japan and destroy negative No.
    6. Fibrizio
      Fibrizio 29 July 2020 10: 02
      +2
      Do these conversations remind you of our clowns waiting for the US default or the seizure of nuclear weapons by BLM?

      Countries are different, fools are the same.
    7. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 July 2020 10: 34
      +5
      for Putin, domestic political positions are much more important than building relations with Japan.

      Can it be somehow different in some adequate country?
      Quote: carstorm 11
      as it already becomes boring. the next clowns amuse themselves with the hope of the collapse of the country. boring girls! boring)

      Whipping up hysteria for the world state of the world is not buzzing. There are more and more dissatisfied people, and there are more and more weapons in the world. So you can get bored or dance, but you need to understand that a strong RF is needed only by the RF, and then not everyone.
    8. iouris
      iouris 29 July 2020 10: 35
      +3
      The USSR did not collapse, but was dissolved "from above". Maybe the Japanese know something?
    9. Bar1
      Bar1 29 July 2020 12: 54
      0
      If you wipe out a narrow-eyed bastard, give Hokkaido, you need to determine the Ainu with your state.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 29 July 2020 07: 47
    +4
    Everyone dreams of their own, and here it will not be possible to change anyone, except perhaps to give the idea a sweeter one.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 29 July 2020 08: 01
      32 th
      Quote: rocket757
      Everyone dreams of his own

      They have such grounds and such hope is given to them by our fifth column of V.ch. and its representatives in the Duma, working in every possible way for the collapse of Russia. Also, the results of voting on amendments to the Constitution are very encouraging: 21% are ready to betray, 33% are ready not to interfere. Total - 54% Their motivation is not important, the result is important.

      1. Pereira
        Pereira 29 July 2020 08: 45
        +8
        Where is it sucked from?
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 29 July 2020 08: 48
          25
          Quote: Pereira
          Where is it sucked from?

          From a sick head of a propagandist. It should be presented SO that everyone who voted against the nullification of common sense are traitors fool
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            1. mdsr
              mdsr 29 July 2020 09: 05
              +4
              Quote: Pereira
              And this scum is proud of its creativity.

              Actually, there is no creativity here. Almost any government tries to present everything in such a way that it is identified with the country. Against the government means against the country. Vaughn, in neighboring Belarus, kefir repeats almost every day that the victory of the opposition in the upcoming elections will mean the loss of sovereignty for Belarus. This is a primitive trick that only the most dumb citizens succumb to.
              1. Kart
                Kart 29 July 2020 09: 17
                +2
                This primitive trick worked beautifully in the former Ukraine.
                There, too, everyone shouted that they would become independent and free.
                We observe the result.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 29 July 2020 09: 40
                  0
                  The Ukrainian example is not entirely correct in this case. Throughout the post-Soviet years, Ukrainians identified themselves with Europe, tried to move away from Russia as far as possible, to get into all kinds of anti-Russian alliances: NATO, the EU, etc. Therefore, it was so easy for pro-Western politicians to win elections. In Russia, the bulk of the opposition does not want to lie under Europe, but to return the welfare state or the USSR in a modified form. This is the difference with Ukraine.
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 29 July 2020 14: 11
                    -3
                    In Russia, the bulk of the opposition does not want to lie under Europe, but to return the welfare state or the USSR in a modified form.

                    The opposition wants to lie down. US only. We see such people on TV at their small gatherings.
                    The people want to return the welfare state. But the people are denied the right and the opportunity to be considered the opposition.
                    The media assume that the people are either for Putin (52%), or enemies of the people (15%), or stupid indifferent (censorship) (33%).
        2. akunin
          akunin 29 July 2020 09: 32
          +2
          Quote: Pereira
          Where is it sucked from?

          from .. drunk monkey. 54% of traitors in the country (I am also a traitor, I voted "against" the amendments), but Boris55 is the only (last) patriot and, if not he, then zvizdets country (loves his homeland wider than anyone).
        3. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 29 July 2020 12: 01
          -1
          Quote: Pereira
          Where is it sucked from?

          Duc, he has a finger ... request
      2. Volodin
        Volodin 29 July 2020 09: 03
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        They have such grounds and such hope is given to them by our fifth column of V.ch. and its representatives in the Duma, working in every possible way for the collapse of Russia. Also, the results of voting on amendments to the Constitution are very encouraging: 21% are ready to betray, 33% are ready not to interfere. Total - 54% Their motivation is not important, the result is important.

        That is, Boris himself, 55 from among the entihs, how are they ... who are from the fifth column? After all, the graph presented by Boris (I wonder whose authorship it is) "screams" that the amendments were supported by less than half of the Russians ... Boris, you swung at the CEC itself!)))
      3. rocket757
        rocket757 29 July 2020 09: 05
        +1
        Strange calculations. And to substantiate what, why and why?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 29 July 2020 11: 24
          -4
          Quote: rocket757
          Strange calculations. And to substantiate what, why and why?

          A little crafty, but only a little - in fact, the numbers are even worse!

          In principle, they do not change the essence - we ourselves give hope to our enemies that Russia will fall apart and then they will be happy, incl. it is not surprising that Japan thinks about it.

          57,7 million people voted for the amendments to the Constitution, which is 52,95 percent of all Russians eligible to vote. ~ 47% of those who took part in the voting did not participate - 21,27% voted against. All data is open and available to everyone on the CEC website.

          For what reasons the people voted against or did not vote at all, it does not matter - the final result is important.On Maiden, they also jumped for lace panties, but were left with a bare bottom ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 July 2020 12: 59
            +2
            Dermocracy is such a strange thing that most people calmly hammer a bolt on their duties, because when they come to claim their rights, they find out that it has slept for them !!!
            This phenomenon is by no means ours, it is everywhere. Therefore, we make a decision only for those who remember that, in addition to rights, there are also DUTIES or CHOICES that are given to him, but he did not POSITION on him.
            Note, I'm not for this system, I just take into account the objective reality that we have, we have all over the world.
            The ACTIVE majority always wins / the smaller one, it doesn't matter, it is important that it is ACTIVE !!!
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 July 2020 09: 17
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        They have such grounds and such hope is given to them by our fifth column of V.ch. and its representatives in the Duma, working in every possible way for the collapse of Russia.

        There is nothing surprising in these figures, especially who are against and enemies of 21%. Well, these percentages have always been from the centuries, and not only with us. But with the 33% who are "not fish or meat", it is no longer good to eat, both of these can become. There are many examples.
      5. Boris55
        Boris55 29 July 2020 13: 49
        -2
        For those who do not understand where these figures come from - from the CEC. I explain on my fingers:

        Problem number 1
        According to the CEC, 67% of the total population eligible to vote came to vote. Question. How many% of the population did not vote?
        Decision:
        100% - 67% = 33%
        Answer. 33% of the population eligible to vote did not take part in the voting.

        Problem number 2
        According to the CEC, 21% of the population voted against, and 33% did not take part in the voting (see task # 1). Question. How many% of the population supported the issues put to the vote.
        Decision:
        100% - (33% + 21%) = 46%
        (For those who are too difficult, I can sort them out by actions and columns).
        Answer. The voting questions were answered positively 46% of the population of the total eligible to vote.

        Who does not understand which number yet?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 29 July 2020 14: 20
          0
          You are not good at mathematics.
          Problem number 1
          According to the CEC, 67% of the total population eligible to vote came to vote. 33% did not come.
          For 78%, against 21%. How many percent of the population voted against?
          0,67 * 0,21 = 0,14
          Answer: Voted against 14% of the population.
          Problem number 2
          How many did not take part in the voting + voted against from the entire population eligible to vote?
          0,33 + 0,14 = 0,47.
          How many voted for?
          1-0,47 0,53 =
          Answer: 53% of the population who have the right to vote answered positively to the voting questions.

          But this is according to official figures.
          I suspect that the real data is the result of the Yamalo-Nenets Okrug. They counted correctly there.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 29 July 2020 14: 38
            -4
            Quote: Pereira
            But this is according to official figures.

            These are too complex calculations. laughing In the final result, they practically do not change the essence of the matter - everything is within the statistical error (~ 7%).

            Quote: Pereira
            I suspect that the real data is the result of the Yamalo-Nenets Okrug.

            That is, you want to say that in fact everything is much worse and the Japs can open champagne and it seems that they are not alone? laughing
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 29 July 2020 14: 55
              0
              And here the Japs?
              It was not the Japs who counted the results, but the homegrown figures from Panfilova's department. And there really were some very complicated calculations.
              I suspect that in fact the majority voted against zeroing. and in the Nenets (With Yamalo-Nenets, I got excited) district they forgot or did not want to correct the numbers.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 30 July 2020 07: 34
                0
                Quote: Pereira
                And here the Japs?

                And the Japs? So the article is about them. Look at the voting situation from their side.

                The voting results show that we "dream" of returning the "holy 90s" and they hope that the next Yeltsin will definitely write off the islands for them. Pompeo also thinks that Russia is about to come out with them against China. Ukraine thinks that Putin will be overthrown by the Donbass, and the Crimea and the Stavropol Territory will become theirs, so why do some "Minsk Agreements" need to be implemented ...

                And many more who think that Russia will fall apart.

                Quote: Pereira
                I suspect that in fact the majority voted against zeroing.

                The Yeltsin Constitution is still in effect today (in a truncated form), although Yeltsin himself has long since died. The amendments were adopted in the interests of all citizens, and the democrats were fixated on only one thing (1 person to 150 million) and gave our enemies a reason to think that Russia would soon be gone.

                "In my opinion, the division of life phenomena into great and small, the reduction of the great to the small, the raising of the small to the great - this is the true mockery of life" ME Saltykov-Shchedrin.

                The reason can always be found. The end result is important.
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 30 July 2020 10: 15
                  0
                  I ask again, what do the Japs have to do with counting votes? They may think what they want, but the numbers weren't drawn in Tokyo.
                  Do you really think that the amendments were conceived in the interests of all citizens?
                  Do you seriously don’t understand that everything except zeroing is a carrot to vote for Putin's eternal power?
                  If so, then you belong exactly to the category for whom this lure was intended. Those who do not see the forest behind the trees.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 30 July 2020 11: 06
                    0
                    Quote: Pereira
                    I ask again, what do the Japs have to do with counting votes?

                    Not any. They just draw conclusions.

                    When in some country there is a vote on an issue of interest to us, then:
                    - if less than 50% voted for him, then you need to work with the elite;
                    - if more than 50% voted for him, then we need to work with the people.
                    This does not mean at all that you have to work with only one person. It is much easier to bend the elite than the people. So the Japs are happy ...
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 30 July 2020 21: 38
                      0
                      1. If the result is falsified, how do you know who to work with?
                      2. And again I did not understand why the Japs are happy. Something happened that I don't know about?
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 31 July 2020 08: 12
                        0
                        What happened is that Russia is split in genders. They are happy about that.

                        Power rules over the people as much as the people allow it. They hide this truth from the people, but it's true. That is why voting results are important not only for us, but for them as well.

                        For themselves, they know exactly what the results are, and other interested parties know this. They are glad that we give them hope that we will overthrow this power, but which one will come - this grandmother said for two. They dream of the 90s, when Russia had everything for sale, including territory. When Russia falls apart, and then you look and the Japs that the thread will fall off.
    2. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Everyone dreams of their own, and here it will not be possible to change anyone, except perhaps to give the idea a sweeter one.


      Something with ideas is not very good. Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 July 2020 09: 16
        +1
        But such a long idea eats into the very nature, consciousness, of some citizens, it cannot be eradicated from there in any way. Only by separating nature from consciousness.
        They are not the only ones, we have enough of all sorts of "dreamers" from the other side soldier
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 July 2020 12: 22
          +2
          Oh, these some citizens, they are all for money ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 04
            +1
            There are simply "inspired / excited" ones too .... but this is a herd that someone needs to gather, guide and ... professionals are needed, and they are just on the payroll of those who need it!
            1. cniza
              cniza 29 July 2020 13: 21
              +2
              There are fanatics, of course, but a hired clique is feeding them ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 33
                +2
                Fanaticism is such a thing ... different. If it is grafted from a young age, it is understandable. But when adults are inspired by something, before they lose their normal consciousness, this is a disease.
                Although the treatment is the same, the separation of what is left from everything else. It's more reliable this way.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 29 July 2020 13: 36
                  +1
                  Well, an adult can be seduced only for money, although there are infants ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 40
                    +1
                    Human brains are too complex a thing and NOBODY was able to prove the declared that he knows everything about them.
                    So sho appear sometimes very strange and very inspired.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 29 July 2020 13: 42
                      +1
                      This is really a mystery and a job for psychologists - psychiatrists ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 45
                        +1
                        So there are not very many of them, but in the spring / autumn, when they have an exacerbation, we may meet
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 29 July 2020 13: 46
                        +1
                        Now there may be an exacerbation all year round ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 July 2020 14: 51
                        +2
                        This is so, some X or Y rays are direct, from all sides.
                        The Almighty again wants to arrange the Babylonian pandemonium !!! Nobody hears anyone, does not understand, and in general does not want to.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 29 July 2020 07: 50
    +1
    Japan will give up Matsmai when the US becomes a regional power ...
    And she will ask to join the Eurasian Union, she has nowhere to go ...
  • Poetry
    Poetry 29 July 2020 07: 52
    +2
    Japanese policeman! They don't understand anything. Is South Sakhalin not needed?
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 09: 03
      +3
      Let's let them become impudent and remember about him ...
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 29 July 2020 09: 56
        +1
        We allow, even their "friends" tease. Which they blew up Hiroshima from Nagasaki.
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 July 2020 12: 26
          +2
          They don't just tease, they prepare them and prepare them for war ...
  • shoroh
    shoroh 29 July 2020 07: 53
    0
    If they ever try to take the islands by force, it would be Japan's greatest mistake. Although, in fact, Japan is an occupied country that has no opinion. The white masters will say "forward to the Russians," and they will take on an adventure. And so, in fact, this topic of the Kuril Islands is a purely domestic political topic for Japanese voters. There will never be any practical solution to this problem without the consent and goodwill of Russia.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 July 2020 09: 23
      0
      In the claim to the islands, one sees not so much the interests of Japan itself, but the ears of an American donkey. The inter-island straits are convenient exits of our submarines to the Pacific Ocean. And our mainland military bases are one thing, and the island ones moved forward, closer to the ocean, is another. Somewhere in the safe of the US military department there has probably been a folder with plans to deploy its military bases in the "northern territories" for many decades.
      Because - yes, only after the collapse of Russia. Try it! Don't burn yourself, samurai. And others.
  • alekc75
    alekc75 29 July 2020 07: 53
    +4
    Let the hokaido be returned, and then we'll see what the Ainu say!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 July 2020 07: 58
    +2
    Oh, they are right ... if you give up, they will tear our country apart like vultures ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Oh, they are right ... if you give up, they will tear our country apart like vultures ...


      And we must remember this every second ...
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 29 July 2020 08: 07
    +2
    These, too, have phantom pains on paper and the Internet, of course, will endure everything, so let them get sick further, the main thing is not to have to heal again.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 29 July 2020 08: 07
    +2
    You can only say with quotes: "you won't wait!" and "from dead ears"
  • zwlad
    zwlad 29 July 2020 08: 09
    +6
    The only option to return the islands to the jurisdiction of Tokyo, Japan is to become a new subject of the Russian Federation called, for example, the Japanese region or the Japanese territory.
    At the same time, the issue of a peace treaty will disappear.
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 09: 00
      +3
      Do we need it? , it is better to close this issue once and for all without joining.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 09: 40
      +1
      and the Japanese land ....... not ... until the Fukushima is dealt with, there will be no bread and salt, definitely .... and so the idea of ​​norms
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 29 July 2020 10: 05
        0
        Well, what. Immediately there will be a high-quality domestic auto industry, electronics again. What about Fukushima? Well, that's a problem.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 10: 25
          +2
          there will be a high-quality domestic auto industry, ..... and what is wrong with the auto industry .... Kamaz ezdyut. gazelles ezdyut, zilovskie gobies the same, I won five years ago Priorka bought no problems with the hodovka and the engine, so ....... but with the Japs will have to suffer. their worldview is rather peculiar, not in a good way, therefore they dirtied the Pacific Ocean with their radioactive .......... in short, they need fishing, and they do not intend to correct the tragedy ... from that all the fuss
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 29 July 2020 10: 27
            0
            OK. Convinced. Let them rake their own Fukushima.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 10: 32
              0
              Let them rake their own Fukushima ........ that's the whole thing ... they don't want to. mostly from cowardice. but for us, too, such a counter is not comme il faut ....... migrating red fish, having drunk the muck of radioactive food, goes to spawn. that is, to the Amur and other rivers ... draw conclusions
          2. Crash
            Crash 29 July 2020 13: 11
            +1
            their worldview is rather peculiar

            That's for sure. Slightly wrong - harikiri lol
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 13: 23
              0
              That's for sure. Slightly wrong - harikiri .... Duc hara-kiri is for the highest pyramid of society. there is a whole ritual (it is carried out only at dawn and during the sacrament, someone also at the top of the social pyramid must chop off his head according to the hara-kiri rite). for all other SIPUKA. , that is, a suicide that can be arranged at any time of the day and is not required rubheads ... nevertheless, the ongoing operations to localize the accident at Fukushima proved ..... the rabbit died ..... how can no one step on the Russian bear either does not know
        2. DMoroz
          DMoroz 29 July 2020 11: 41
          +2
          Well, what. A high-quality domestic auto industry will appear immediately

          Just teach them to insert the steering wheel from the normal side into the car and teach them to drive along the right lane like normal people ...
    3. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 30 July 2020 00: 03
      0
      Vlad, I object. Even when the Tokyo region and the Ainu Autonomous Okrug become part of Russia - no transfer of land - we remember NS Khrushchev and his "gifts". By the way, the question of transferring the islands arose under Nikita Khrushchev.
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 30 July 2020 08: 24
        0
        Yes. Exactly. There were already precedents.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 29 July 2020 08: 13
    +3
    Russia may not give up the islands. Russia can expand the concept of the "Kuril Archipelago". Four more units. And disinfect. Submerging the extra islands under the sea level. For a couple hundred years. And then there are some kind of parasites.
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 09: 00
      +1
      Quote: sergo1914
      Russia may not give up the islands. Russia can expand the concept of the "Kuril Archipelago". Four more units. And disinfect. Submerging the extra islands under the sea level. For a couple hundred years. And then there are some kind of parasites.


      This is the task of our diplomacy - in a language understandable to the Japanese, to convey all this ...
  • bar
    bar 29 July 2020 08: 30
    0
    These brothers in mind in their parallel reality generally lose their brains.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 29 July 2020 08: 32
    -2
    "The Constitution of Russia prohibits the alienation of land" outrage! To urgently cancel such wording
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  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 29 July 2020 08: 51
    0
    Japan, as it was a country occupied by the United States, remained so.
    And until this situation changes, it will follow the path of the US anti-Russian policy in the Far East.
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 08: 58
      +2
      And not just in the wake, but the United States began to make an instrument of war against Russia out of it, and this is no longer a joke ...
  • APASUS
    APASUS 29 July 2020 08: 52
    +2
    This is an internal affair of Japan and stop discussing, THE ISSUE IS CLOSED!
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2020 08: 56
      +1
      And for someone, even within our country, something itches ...
  • cniza
    cniza 29 July 2020 08: 55
    +4
    Japanese readers: Russia can give up the islands if it falls apart like the USSR


    There is such a theory, but as they say in Odessa - "you won't wait" ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 29 July 2020 09: 03
      +1
      Hi soldier
      Many live in dreams, it just so happens. They don't find satisfaction in life, even so, they hover in their fantasies.
      In principle, there are such everywhere.
      Okay, if he himself, himself, but when at the expense of others, this is a different calico.
      They dreamed of boom to break off, not the first time.
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 July 2020 09: 06
        +2
        You just need to understand who is pushing them to this step and why. hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 29 July 2020 09: 19
          +1
          They are pushing, encouraging ... there are such "benefactors", a whole list. Although the capital letter is always one, the truth is in two faces. Not the first time.
          1. cniza
            cniza 29 July 2020 12: 25
            +2
            Oh yes, the list is long, but one two-faced a ... Janus ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 09
              +1
              Do not name Uncle Sam, the most important thing is not to let this goat-horned goat into your garden !!!
              1. cniza
                cniza 29 July 2020 13: 23
                +2
                But they are trying to get through and as soon as we relax, they will be right there.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 29 July 2020 13: 35
                  +1
                  Yes, they had teachers ... and even now they are blathering, provoking, guiding.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 29 July 2020 13: 37
                    +1
                    For this, they (the Japanese) and changed their doctrine ...
  • Alien From
    Alien From 29 July 2020 08: 56
    0
    Wet dreams of the Japs ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 July 2020 08: 59
    +1
    The Japanese media note that the Japanese authorities "should not agree to play with only one goal," otherwise "it will be difficult to build truly friendly relations between the countries."
    Interesting statement, "one-sided game". Is that the war for them was just a "game"? And now "Guys, the game is over, return our toys." But Russia does not think it was a game. And you don't need to scare you with some kind of unfriendly relationship. Already those who participated in this war had great-grandchildren, and for 75 years we did not live in friendship, and somehow we did without Japanese friends, and even now these "friends" are not needed. Live peacefully and quietly in your neighborhood, and no one will poke you with a bayonet in soft places.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 09: 51
      0
      "Guys, it's game over, return our toys." .....Yeah . the times of general admiration for "Made In Japan" have sunk into oblivion. the Russian master drives Madeinchina ..... for example, I have a Toshiba TV set from the Madeinchena master regularly pouring manure from the screen for almost 8 years
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 29 July 2020 09: 03
    +1
    Guys love to dream.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 July 2020 10: 13
      0
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Guys love to dream.

      As we say "Dreaming is not harmful", it is something intangible, highly desirable and, as a rule, not attainable.
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 29 July 2020 18: 16
        0
        That's right, the main thing in a dream is not its fulfillment, but how to live without a dream?
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 29 July 2020 09: 07
    -4
    Now for Putin, even if he showed goodwill, there is no way to transfer these islands, since the Russian Constitution prohibits the alienation of lands.
    The Constitution forbade a lot of things ... for example, to be elected more than two times to the presidency ... And Putin is going for 5 terms already ...
    There is also a lot of stuff about equality and so on.
    So, you can wipe yourself with this piece of paper, and no more ..
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 29 July 2020 09: 09
    10 th
    Russia may give up the islands

    In general, it would be unfair, of course, if Russia collapses and Japan takes the islands for itself .. Only the islands ..
    The rest will envy .. ((
  • Graz
    Graz 29 July 2020 09: 22
    +1
    and who has good neighborly relations with the Japanese?
    Japan should be sent far and long
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 29 July 2020 09: 47
    +2
    Exactly, and add to them in a bunch of comments that territorial claims will dissolve by themselves if Japan is washed away by the global ocean tsunami laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 July 2020 09: 50
    0
    Heranut for an example of these fools, so that others would not be familiar.
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 29 July 2020 10: 48
    0
    It seems that they have received an order from Washington to create tension - and now they imitate violent activity.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 29 July 2020 10: 53
    +1
    I feel sorry for the Japanese: they will not wait for the desired collapse of Russia, ANYTHING !!! yes lol
  • Hort
    Hort 29 July 2020 10: 57
    0
    and I have been saying for a long time, to invite them to join the Kurils, if they want so. With the transition to Russian passports, currency and governing bodies
  • Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 29 July 2020 11: 08
    +1
    As comrade Keith Richards once said: Who said I had a drug problem? I never have a problem with drugs. Problems are usually with the police .....
    So the Japanese have problems with the territory. Russia has no problems!
    Something like this....
  • 5-9
    5-9 29 July 2020 11: 25
    0
    Khazin said that only recently Germany began to be considered as a civilian technological appendage (although you can spend and say part) of the Eurasian zone instead of Japan ...
    Without our roof, the Koreans and the Chinese will devour and bring them down, and for this all 2 China and 2 Koreas will happily unite .... So this is all chatter .. They have no other options
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy 29 July 2020 11: 49
    0
    Will it fall apart? Then the Russians will definitely have nothing to lose, and as if in this case the Japanese did not have to give up the four-thread
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 July 2020 12: 01
    +1
    A powerful tandem of those awaiting the collapse of Russia has organized. Japan in the east, Ukraine in the west. Wait to fall apart. When the Ukrainian crayfish climbs Mount Fuji and whistles there, after rain on Thursday.
  • JD1979
    JD1979 29 July 2020 12: 07
    +1
    Yes, Godzilla will soon trample on Japan, than Russia will fall apart and the islands will break off to someone.
  • Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 29 July 2020 12: 09
    +1
    Quote: Wowka

    Now the time has changed. All. There are no more freebies.

    Time has really changed. Transit goes away, gas rises in price, IMF loans are given with a creak. The only country with which there was industrial cooperation, now you have the main enemy. Sell ​​black soil, and then how? The old fashioned way, to the Poles as farm laborers?
  • PValery53
    PValery53 29 July 2020 12: 46
    +1
    All kinds of "territorial" negotiations with Japan should be transferred from the channel of the "transfer of the Kuril Islands" to the channel of the "transfer of North Hokkaido to Russia." The Japanese should like it.
  • TSUNAMI 7
    TSUNAMI 7 29 July 2020 14: 02
    0
    Ears from a dead donkey!
  • georggy
    georggy 29 July 2020 14: 14
    +1
    And if Japan collapses, then there will be enough Japanese islands for everyone and Russia and China and all Koreas
  • 1536
    1536 29 July 2020 14: 43
    0
    In Japan with demographics, a complete bummer, or rather, they do not have any demographics. They began to conclude marriages with electronic dolls. Even documentaries are being made about it, which means the phenomenon has become widespread. And why, one wonders, do they need the Kuril Islands? Therefore, someone else needs them, and the Japanese are just a means to achieve this goal. A bargaining chip, a game in a purely Russian good attitude to everything Japanese. Who then needed the Kuril ridge? The Americans are in Okinawa, they control the entire Pacific Ocean. And it really hinders some people to put things in order on their only path. Thus, there is another country in this region, whose policy is not that unpredictable, but simply sewn with white thread, so it feels safe and the local leaders have already begun to lose their heads from impunity. But in any case, there is nothing to talk about with the Japanese.
  • Keldysh Mstislav
    Keldysh Mstislav 29 July 2020 14: 47
    -1
    In general, there is still a precedent. Donating your territory to a hostile state. On June 1, 1990 E. Shevardnadze donated 34 square kilometers of the coastal shelf of the USSR exclusive economic zone in the Bering Strait to the USA. The zone is rich in fish resources and hydrocarbon deposits ..... The donation took place in violation of all international norms and laws .... Can the Japanese hope for this ???
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 29 July 2020 20: 34
      +2
      Quote: Keldysh Mstislav
      In general, there is still a precedent. Donating your territory to a hostile state. June 1, 1990 E. Shevardnadze gave the USA

      Why dig so far.
      On September 5, 2010, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg signed an agreement "On the delimitation of maritime spaces and cooperation in the Barents Sea and the Arctic Ocean."
      On March 25, 2011, the State Duma of the 5th convocation approved the law "On the ratification of the Treaty between the Russian Federation and the Kingdom of Norway on the delimitation of sea spaces and cooperation in the Barents Sea and the Arctic Ocean" by 311 deputies of United Russia.

      Demarcation the Russian-Chinese border took place in 2005. As a result of drawing the interstate border in the center of the Amur River, China received a number of territories with a total area of ​​337 km² - a plot of land in the area of ​​Bolshoi Island (the upper reaches of the Argun River in the Chita region) and two plots in the area of ​​the Tarabarov and Bolshoi Ussuriisky Islands near the confluence of the Amur and Ussuri rivers. The main part of these territories was the western end of the Bolshoy Ussuriisky Island on the Amur River opposite the mouth of the Ussuri River. The island has an area of ​​327 to 350 km² depending on the season.

      On October 14, 2004, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Hu Jintao signed an addendum to the agreement on the Russian-Chinese state border, according to which demarcation occurred.

      On May 20, 2005, the State Duma of the 4th convocation ratified an additional agreement (307 deputies supported, 80 against, two abstained). On May 25, the Federation Council approved the agreement (157 senators supported it, two against it, without abstentions).


      Finally, the "reinforced concrete amendment" provides for a ban on actions (except for delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states)aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as a prohibition to call for such actions.
  • NF68
    NF68 29 July 2020 16: 41
    0
    Fools who think, who grow rich with unrealizable dreams.
  • Andobor
    Andobor 29 July 2020 20: 04
    0
    Japan is deprived of geopolitical independence, and everything that sounds about the islands is dictated from Washington.
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 29 July 2020 22: 56
    0
    I personally was at one time interested in Eastern philosophy, including the Bushido code. IMHO. there are no samurai left today. men sniffing women's panties but afraid to approach a woman? well, how can they go to battle against a normal guy who will not give back out of principle.
  • bulava
    bulava 30 July 2020 00: 32
    0
    Take the islands by force

    power is gone for a long time, it would be better if they switched attention to North Korea, otherwise they are zhakhut on the stronghold of capitalism
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 30 July 2020 09: 36
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    as it already becomes boring. the next clowns amuse themselves with the hope of the collapse of the country. boring girls! boring)

    And what's the problem then? What they say from above will do it. Each part of the region has its own government, its own ministers, and the republics in general. It remains only to press the button.
  • Alexander Yaroshenko
    Alexander Yaroshenko 30 July 2020 10: 18
    +1
    In principle, the Japanese are very right, we already went through this during the 1918 intervention
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 30 July 2020 19: 33
    0
    how to return the islands to the jurisdiction of Tokyo


    declare war on Russia, engage in battle with Russia and win. And voila, the Kuril Islands are Japanese again, but if you are not lucky, then become the republic of "Japan" within Russia.
  • Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 31 July 2020 01: 36
    0
    And why should you give them something to fear? They forgot that Japan was an aggressor in the Second World War and was defeated. The territories were confiscated by the victorious side and to return something is to call into question the results of the war and our victory in it. Moreover, it is difficult to classify Japan as a friendly country, given the presence of US military bases on its territory. So let them "scratch their chest with a blowtorch" and moan further about the "northern territories". This issue is not subject to discussion.